building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

And is it built for multi tasking?

[mossy venture]

Lowkey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PqzFGP

I don't really like reccing 5700x anymore, but 12600k perf with cheaper mobo

[obsidian wigeon]

like i said tbh, my list is less focused on gpu

more on newest tech

[mossy venture]

What multi tasking are you doing

[little osprey]

But you said newest tech isn’t important?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah nope

it isn't

[mossy venture]

This is a very varied question I cannot answer

[little osprey]

Editing/multiple chromes/multiple software

[mossy venture]

Yeah you're good

[little osprey]

Chrome eats my ram bruh

Damn

[mossy venture]

Do you have a high refresh rate monitor?

[obsidian wigeon]

it's fine

i have chrome left running with 16gb and u game all the time

[mossy venture]

32gb is plenty and then some

[little osprey]

I have a laptop with 240hz, RTX 3060 Laptop GPU

But not at the moment

[mossy venture]

You can't really connect this pc to that display

[little osprey]

Will use my laptop

It’s possible

[mossy venture]

Doesn't work :p

[little osprey]

I’ve done it before

Just need to

[mossy venture]

With parsec or what?

[little osprey]

Change some stuff

[obsidian wigeon]

parsec?

[mossy venture]

Bc that uhh

[little osprey]

Don’t recall,

[obsidian wigeon]

parsec has latency, so that's not good

[mossy venture]

Eh, same wifi network would be fine

But one sec

[little osprey]

@mossy venture you got a list of like RTX and Intel cpu? That’s the only parts I really know

[mossy venture]

Can fit monitor in budget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZRPgJy

[obsidian wigeon]

nvidia gpus new are worse value

[mossy venture]

I mean... I can make you one

But it'll be worse

[obsidian wigeon]

they'd end up looking the exact same as prebuilts

[little osprey]

I was told like a 3060ti is good

And is better than

[mossy venture]

Unless you go used for gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

and 6700xt equals to 3070ti

[mossy venture]

6700xt beats 3060 ti in raster

[obsidian wigeon]

6800 is a lot faster

[mossy venture]

Nah not that far, unless driver updates changed it that much

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah my bad 6700xt does beat it

[mossy venture]

Ohh you meant 3060 ti not 3070 ti lol

[obsidian wigeon]

yap

6800 is around 3070ti ain't it

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C4Lwh3

[earnest olive]

6700xt is similar to a 3060ti but with more vram

[little osprey]

@obsidian wigeon if you can dm me a list of the best prebuilt that you have mentioned, and the best parts on Pc part picker I will do some extra research. But am thinking of building it on my own since you guys know what your doing

[earnest olive]

3060ti-3070ti 8gb vram is becoming a problem

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t4Lwh3

I would definitely go for 6700xt over 3060 ti any day of the week though

[little osprey]

Damn

[mossy venture]

Like sips said, more vram in addition to better perf

[obsidian wigeon]

i don't like how games are so unoptimized but that's a different conversation

[little osprey]

That looks good

[obsidian wigeon]

i'd just get radeon

[mossy venture]

3060 ti just isn't worth tho

[obsidian wigeon]

you have more vram to play with

[little osprey]

Give me the list with 6700, and can you use Intel or not compatiable?

[mossy venture]

If you want nvidia, look for a used 3080 10gb, should be around $350-400

[obsidian wigeon]

3060ti will face issues with 2023 games if you dare run them at high settings

[mossy venture]

Sure, I made you one above, let me find it

[earnest olive]

i don't think needing >8gb vram means unoptimized on its own

consoles got 16gb

[obsidian wigeon]

im aware

[earnest olive]

was only a matter of time

[obsidian wigeon]

ofc

[little osprey]

Would you be able to do xt and Intel?

[obsidian wigeon]

i went over it at this point

[mossy venture]

Part List - Intel Core i5-12400F, Radeon RX 6800, BitFenix Nova Mes... this is the best one

Wtf

[little osprey]

Or is there a better option?

[mossy venture]

One sec

Sorry

[little osprey]

Thanks for y’all help btw ❤️

[earnest olive]

there are no compatibility issues between intel cpu and radeon gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

my solution is to not play those games since consoles have outpaced lower tier hardware released now

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mzcRkJ

[obsidian wigeon]

set my expectations to appropriate levels

[mossy venture]

Best one

Can downgrade gpu to 6700xt, either is fine

[earnest olive]

at this point beating the ps5 with a pc is pretty trivial

[mossy venture]

Can be done in around $550 not including used I think

[obsidian wigeon]

doubt a 400 bucks pc can beat ps5

not without buying used

[mossy venture]

One sec ima check actually

I'm curious

[little osprey]

What do I loose if I downgrade to a 6700

[earnest olive]

remember that ps5 has more expensive games and you have to pay to go online

[obsidian wigeon]

that's true

gets expensive later anyway

[little osprey]

I remember buying the ps5 the first day it was released

[obsidian wigeon]

sony just increased their ps gold subscription price too

[little osprey]

I was the first mf to get it

[obsidian wigeon]

[earnest olive]

also as far as i can tell the ps5 is still $500

[obsidian wigeon]

ouch

[little osprey]

No not really

Prices have decreased a lot

[obsidian wigeon]

isn't that for blu ray version?

400 for digital?

[little osprey]

Digital is $349 if you look at the right store

[earnest olive]

hm

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YpPgJy

What I came up with, tho 4500 kinda sad bc of cache

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

that's cheapest you could do new parts without going to ghetto

[earnest olive]

if you get good used deals you can probably do 5600 + rx 6700 for $500 these days

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mzcRkJ @mossy venture if I downgrade to a 6700 how much do I save and what do I loose?

[mossy venture]

Going used could def beat/match ps5 without cheaping out as bad as I did in that list lol

[earnest olive]

💀

[mossy venture]

Well make sure it's the 6700xt, not 6700

[obsidian wigeon]

6700 and 6700xt are priced so closely together

[mossy venture]

But like what, 20% gpu perf sips?

[earnest olive]

r5 4500

[mossy venture]

25?

[little osprey]

25% difference?

Ouch

[mossy venture]

I'm not sure I'm asking sips lol

Or foxy

[earnest olive]

definitely not that dramatic

[mossy venture]

Ah alr

[earnest olive]

more like 12.5%

[mossy venture]

Oh wow I was off, mb

[mossy venture]

Yeah atp 7600 for $230 is much better than 6700 at what, $280?

[little osprey]

And do you have a prebuilt version of https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mzcRkJ, since you said nvidia is not that good

[mossy venture]

Not really

Pre builts don't really cater towards budget that much

[little osprey]

Do you mind providing me with one, just want to see the example

Just wondering how much I save

[earnest olive]

prebuilts with radeon gpus are pretty rare

[little osprey]

Labor cost? Profit cost?

[mossy venture]

I can try to make a similar one on cyberpower but it'd be a few hundred more likely

[obsidian wigeon]

7600 is pretty good but the 8 gigs kinda hurts it for me

[mossy venture]

Yeah, just not really worth the $50 at that budget imo

[little osprey]

Those websites are scams, I would check newegg

[mossy venture]

No....

No they are not

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[little osprey]

They get too much profit

For prebuilts

Unless it gives me the option

To build it myself

[mossy venture]

Uhhh

[obsidian wigeon]

well sometimes cyberpower prebuilts are very cheap

[mossy venture]

That's kinda what pre built companies do

[obsidian wigeon]

they get on discounts

[little osprey]

Do you mean pick the parts and they build it?

[mossy venture]

Cyberpower gets some nice sales though

Occasionally

[obsidian wigeon]

and prebuilt companies has to profit off the builds they sell

[little osprey]

Yea of course but I was told some of them profit $400

On a 1k built

[obsidian wigeon]

honestly not really

i'd say it's appropriate

[earnest olive]

maybe build redux does that lol

[obsidian wigeon]

but build redux likely does that

[little osprey]

Going to buy from them

[earnest olive]

build redux with the spicy 4060 prebuilt for $1500

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

[little osprey]

Thanks for your help, am going to spend the next couple days seeing if I can find a prebuilt worth the price, if not I will prob build it myself

But am liking the one

I’ve been given

[earnest olive]

next couple of days? that's more time than just building one

[little osprey]

I can’t trust myself with building one

If I mess stuff up

It’s going to be a disaster

[mossy venture]

Best I managed is 5600x and 6700xt for $1200 with a 1tb ssd and 16gb ram

[little osprey]

Send me that

[mossy venture]

$320 more than 12400f+6800 with overall worse components

What you can do

[little osprey]

💀

[mossy venture]

If you order the parts yourself, you can find a store locslly that can assemble it for you

While it's still expensive you get the customization, you get the better quality and performing parts, and you'll still save more money than going for that cyberpower build

[little osprey]

The closest micro center is 6hrs away

[mossy venture]

Doesn't have to be mc

[earnest olive]

are you in the bay area lol

[mossy venture]

You gotta have some kind of local pc shop, just search Google like "local pc shop", and it'll bring up map searches

[little osprey]

Thanks for the suggestion but man do I not trust those companies

[mossy venture]

My first custom build a local shop built for me

[little osprey]

Mf will replace it with a worse part

[mossy venture]

...

Take a picture of the parts you order

Sue if they steal from you and win much more than you paid

[little osprey]

Sue

Bro

You don’t sue for like $300

[mossy venture]

You would be getting a lot more than that

[little osprey]

Legal fees are 3 times more

Then the Pc itself

[earnest olive]

if you're in the bay area bring it to me you have 10 days

[little osprey]

Where you live 💀

[mossy venture]

Sips is highly recommended

[earnest olive]

in the bay area lol

going back to LA in 10 days

[mossy venture]

If you want anything more than that dm him (ask him directly first bc im not just going to have you dm him lol)

[little osprey]

La is 1.5hrs away from me

I live in SD

[earnest olive]

the closest micro center should only be like 2 hours away then no?

i guessed you were in the bay because the closest micro center is 6 hours from me lol

[little osprey]

Am adding the LA traffic as well

It’s a disaster

[earnest olive]

micro center is in tustin

you don't hit LA traffic on the way there

that's still OC

[little osprey]

Your very close to it

Man in SD

The traffic here

Is horrible

It takes 45min to go 10 miles

[earnest olive]

good thing i don't have a car in LA

one time it took me an hour to drive 3 miles and someone jumped in front of my car

👍

average LA experience

[mossy venture]

That sounds about right

[little osprey]

Our car did not move for 4 hrs in San Diego I-8

👍

Would have been faster if we walked home

[earnest olive]

paying for parking is also lovely

paying $20 parking to go eat your $40 dinner

average LA experience

having friends is expensive

just stay inside and talk about computers instead

[little osprey]

San Francisco hub of car theft?

And car vandalism am guessing?

Or the news be lying

[earnest olive]

luckily i live far enough from san francisco to not have reasons to go to san francisco

[little osprey]

You seem like you work as a software developer?

That’s my guess

[earnest olive]

in school to become one

solid guess

[little osprey]

You in uni?

[earnest olive]

ucla is the reason i am going back to la

[little osprey]

I was accepted into ucla but never went

My plan is to go to SDSU for 6 months

Then go to WGU

Fully online, can get the degree in 1 year if you don’t have a life

[teal dome]

Which degree

[little osprey]

Computer Science

[teal dome]

In a year? How?

[earnest olive]

that does not sound like fun

[little osprey]

WGU is fully online, can be completed as fast as you want it.

So that means

You can complete a class in 1 week

If you spend 2 days on it

Like locked in

[earnest olive]

how easy are those classes

one of my final exams alone was 40 hours

[little osprey]

The same as the average classes

If you fail a quiz

You just retake the lessons

[earnest olive]

dunno how you can complete that in 2 days

[little osprey]

And then do it again

[little osprey]

If you spend 12 hrs in 2 days

There is a YouTubers who got a computer science degree in 3 months but never left their house

[earnest olive]

so.. extremely easy classes then

[teal dome]

Imo you can do it if you are talented allat but if you wanna learn new things and stuff I’d rather do the 4 year degree

[little osprey]

Super easy, no zoom, no travel, just look at the course material take the quiz and continue

[little osprey]

I have 3 years of experience in PHP / HTML / CSS / JavaScript / SQL / Java / C++ so what am learning is useless

I can get my degree in a year

If I spend 1 day out of the week

Just doing classes

[teal dome]

Yeah is you already have experience just finish it quick and get a job

[teal dome]

Only one day?

[little osprey]

That one day you spend like 10 hrs

[teal dome]

Imo not bad

[little osprey]

No zooms, no professors, you fail a exam, just look at the course materials and retake it the next day

Did I mention FULLY Remote

[teal dome]

Or you can do 2 days 5 years each and do something else rest of the week

[teal dome]

Crazy

How much for the course

[little osprey]

2x cheaper than SDSU

I have to

Drive

45min to go to SDSU

Good

[teal dome]

Idk how much is sdsu 💀

[little osprey]

Where you live?

I pay

8k a semester

WGU is 3k

[teal dome]

Damn that’s it? No way

[little osprey]

But I did financial aid

[teal dome]

Any catches and anything like that?

[little osprey]

And had a full ride

[teal dome]

Oh

Is 3k with scholarships!

[little osprey]

The only catch is you won’t get a ceremony

After your done

[little osprey]

No the government payed for mine

[teal dome]

Tbh I don’t care about ceremonies lol, I don’t like celebrating my graduations kinda seem pointless to me

[little osprey]

Live laugh US money

[teal dome]

Are you first gen?

[little osprey]

How old are you and what state?

[little osprey]

Had my mom go to local college

For a associate

That’s all

[teal dome]

Oh

I’m in nm so college is cheap

Going to college next year

[little osprey]

My parents are forcing me to go to a college physically, I’ve told them after the semester is over am going fully remote. 1 year if I focus and spend 3 days 6hrs a day, 2-3 years if I spend 1 day for 6 hrs

[little osprey]

New Mexico right?

[teal dome]

I mean fully remote does seem nice but you won’t learn necessary skills just a degree

[teal dome]

Ye

[little osprey]

I loved remote during high school

I learned more remote than pusical

I actually got sleep during remote

I did stuff I wanted with extra time

Less homework on remote too

[teal dome]

I don’t like remote and I like physics better but my school is dog

[little osprey]

Btw if you haven’t heard, your governor is tryna remove the 2nd admendments rn 💀💀💀💀

[teal dome]

Is it the firearm one?

[little osprey]

Yes

[teal dome]

Idk I’m not American bruh

Yeah they did already

[little osprey]

Where you from?

[teal dome]

For 30 days it’s illegal to have a firearm

Because of someone getting shot

[little osprey]

Just saying people are pissed off rn

Where were you born?

[teal dome]

I don’t care as much lmao guns are too much violence

[teal dome]

I don’t wanna share sorry

[little osprey]

It’s not that deep

Bro

Am from Iraq

[teal dome]

Ik XD

[little osprey]

?

[teal dome]

?

[little osprey]

Where you from?

You close to US?

[teal dome]

Nah

I live in us tho

[little osprey]

Am going to be honest with you

Public schools

Are bad

Even universities

[teal dome]

They are man

Wish there was a private school or some where I live

[little osprey]

If I was you

Seriously

[teal dome]

I don’t learn anything in my high school

[little osprey]

You need to learn coding right now

If you learn coding

You can go remote

[teal dome]

I needa

[teal dome]

I don’t wanna go remote I have a really good college near me

But yeah I need to learn coding but I just don’t know how

I wanna learn C

[brittle tinsel]

are there any places that still sell 2x16gb sticks of ddr3 1600mhz? (not my pc, its a friends and ram is what holds his pc back on his main game. He wants to upgrade the ram to temporarily hold out until he can afford to build a new pc.)

[earnest olive]

16gb ddr3 dimms were never a thing in the consumer market

he will need 4x8

[little osprey]

Chat gpt and making projects

[brittle tinsel]

his mobo only has 2 slots I believe

[earnest olive]

then he's out of luck

[teal dome]

Wdym chat gpt lmao

[little osprey]

@earnest olive what Pc do you have?

[little osprey]

Ask chat gpt when you don’t know something

[earnest olive]

uhh

[little osprey]

If you want to learn C

[earnest olive]

i have been too lazy to make an updated part list

[teal dome]

Ah

[little osprey]

Find projects that involve C

[teal dome]

How much is the pc

[little osprey]

If I was you

I would rather start in PhP

It teaches you back end

Back end is very important

[teal dome]

True

But c is for college I wanna learn some for college so I don’t fall behind

[teal dome]

True true

[earnest olive]

13700k, tuned 32gb b-die, 4080 with strix vbios, 3tb nvmes, 1000w atx3 psu

[teal dome]

Tbh I don’t even know if I wanna do computer science I’m thinking about my major still

[little osprey]

You won’t learn C

[teal dome]

Wdym by tuned bdie

[little osprey]

You will learn Java

[earnest olive]

tuned b-die means tuned b-die

[teal dome]

Naw in our college it’s diff

[teal dome]

What does tuning ram mean

[earnest olive]

raise frequency lower timings

[teal dome]

What are those

💀

[earnest olive]

read a guide

[teal dome]

I need to lol

[earnest olive]

hard to keep track at this point

been switching parts in and out

[teal dome]

You selling any spare parts 💀

[earnest olive]

i want to say probably around 1.1k

[teal dome]

Ong? With a 4080?

[earnest olive]

got a used deal on the 4080 for $765

school bought me the cpu

[teal dome]

Wow nice

[teal dome]

Schools do that?????

[earnest olive]

then best buy made a mistake and sent me the wrong cpu

so they partially refunded me on the cpu i didn't pay for

mobo was a used deal for $100

[teal dome]

Where did you find used parts mostly?

[earnest olive]

psu was given to me as a review sample

cooler was a used deal for $30

[teal dome]

Famous YouTuber or some lmao

[earnest olive]

picked up case fans for like $3 each

[teal dome]

Where

[teal dome]

Which cooler

[earnest olive]

wait i forgot to count the internal monitor and fancy cables lol

ok maybe 1.2k

galahad 360

[earnest olive]

those were actually not used

straight off of newegg

[teal dome]

But still that’s so good for the build you have

[teal dome]

was it a price error

[earnest olive]

probably

they're nice fans

[teal dome]

Also when do most of these deals happen? And also do they send them in the tech deals section?

[teal dome]

Is it a aio or air cooler

[earnest olive]

tech deals is user run so

the answer is maybe

[earnest olive]

well it's got 360 in the name

[teal dome]

How did you find it and also where do you buy your used parts

[earnest olive]

mostly HWS

[teal dome]

The college?

[earnest olive]

what

HWS is a reddit/discord community

[teal dome]

Idk bruh

Oh

Do you have link

For disocrd

[earnest olive]

don't think i am allowed to send that

[teal dome]

DMs or naw?

[manic cloak]

Not a build related question but I was hoping someone would know, I’ve had my iPhone 13 Pro screen have like a few scratches in it, along with a crack and it’s starting to bother me but I don’t wanna go replace it for 300$+, it looks simple on how to swap it out just I can’t find a place that sells a good one

Same with this iPhone 6 Plus my family has had, it’s been cracked for years and if I do this I might aswell fix it lol

[obsidian wigeon]

i don't know a place that sells good ones, but you can follow big phone repair channels perhaps

[frigid night]

What carrier do you have?

[potent portal]

Miiight want to look at this before you try to change that screen https://www.ifixit.com/News/54829/apples-new-screen-repair-trap-could-change-the-repair-industry-forever

The screens are coded to work with the specific device and without factory calibration tools (which no one has, not even genius bar) you can get issues like that face ID disable, or incorrect touches, things like that.

[obsidian wigeon]

^

you do need a device to program the screens

no need for stuff from apple, but it's additional expenses that you need to spend for those chinese apple display programmers

[analog hearth]

This cooler is amazing

It’s also my first AIO

[manic cloak]

T mobile

[frigid night]

They offer device protection plans starting at $7. If you grab that for your device and wait a week or so, you can claim you dropped your phone and cracked the screen. They should offer a same/next day screen replacement for no cost.

[manic cloak]

Okok thanks

[frigid night]

They may even offer a whole replacement device for a small deductible.

[little osprey]

@obsidian wigeon @earnest olive

Thoughts on this PC?
https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-002D-00095?Item=9SIAZBDJYT2441&cm_sp=SP-_-1931196-_-0-_-3-_-9SIAZBDJYT2441-_-6700XT pc-_-6700xt|pc-_-1
^
I feel like the pc I mentioned above is better than the one you gave me yesterday.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883630027
^This was the pc you provided to me yesturday

[earnest olive]

you don't need to double ping me

i responded already

[empty pollen]

can i double ping you :3 :#

[little osprey]

Do it

[earnest olive]

no, i've infected you with a trojan that causes your mouse and keyboard to freeze if you try it

[empty pollen]

👀

[mossy venture]

11400f and 3060 ti would still game better

[empty pollen]

that explains why the funny lights on my keyboard stopped working

[mossy venture]

7600 is around 6700 perf

somehow i trust this less than not even mentioning the psu lol

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-blaze3-0310-b-ne/p/3D5-000Z-000A1

[little osprey]

@mossy venture What CPU should I upgrade to

After purchasing this?

[mossy venture]

what do you mean

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883630027

[mossy venture]

nothing?

[little osprey]

Was told the CPU should be upgraded for the best performance

[mossy venture]

the only three cpus you could upgrade to are 11600k, 11700 and 11900

none of those will game that much better since the single core is not that far ahead

the 11400f is a fine cpu

ima be a lil blunt for a second

i dont know how many times we gotta say it, the 11400f and 3060 ti is more than a fine pairing

the 11400f is more than enough for 1080p/1440p gaming with a 3060 ti

you could pair it with a 3080 and wouldn't see much of a bottleneck at 1440p

[little osprey]

Got 1 question for you, sorry for bothering you

How hard would it be

to replace to a 1 TB

[mossy venture]

no its ok, im fine with answering questions just not the same one multiple times

you can just add storage you dont gotta replace it

[little osprey]

Do I need to remove multiple components

before replacing?

[mossy venture]

just the case most likely

sorry not the case

the side panel

[little osprey]

And what about Windows?

Do I need a USB drive?

[mossy venture]

just leave the original ssd in there, and add one as a secondary drive

[little osprey]

How would that work?

Do you have a video by any chance?

[mossy venture]

wdym

[little osprey]

How to add the 1tb into the already existing 500gb

I would need to purchase extra wiring am guessing?

[mossy venture]

nope

there's multiple slots

also this is one to consider https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-001U-001F1

4060 ti is basically just a renamed 3060 ti

[little osprey]

And what is the Ryzen 5 equivelent to?

i5 11th Gen 11400F?

[mossy venture]

which ryzen 5

ah

uhh

[little osprey]

Ryzen 5 3600 upgrades to Ryzen 5 5600(6 core 3.5GHz) for free

[mossy venture]

not really similar to any of them, but i can pull up a performance comparison

[little osprey]

And what does it mean

upgrades to Ryzen 5 for free

[mossy venture]

i do not know what you're looking at so im not sure

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-001U-001F1

"Ryzen 5 3600 upgrades to Ryzen 5 5600(6 core 3.5GHz) for free"

[mossy venture]

oh wait i didnt see that

[little osprey]

What does that mean?

[mossy venture]

looks like it comes with 5600

if it doesn't, false advertising and return/chargeback

[little osprey]

Too sketchy

Thanks for your help btw

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-0043-00042

10700f similar to 11400f for gamin,g but more ram and 2tb ssd

[earnest olive]

this is a common prebuilt marketing thing

[mossy venture]

I haven't seent hat seller before though

reviews look fine on them though

and over 2k sales

[earnest olive]

basically they're saying they priced the PC like it has a 3600 but give you a 5600 instead to make you feel like you're getting a deal

it's all psychology

[potent portal]

"Aw no way! Free upgrade? Must be a good value!"

Then there's the scammers that take advantage of that and hope you don't check what CPU you actually got, and/or when you complain they use deflection and stall tactics, but that doesn't appear to be the case here.

[lethal tapir]

Lol its not like it's easily found the instant you get to settings

Or the bios lol

I guess they're just reeeeally hoping someone buying a computer isn't a computer enthusiast

Or even a basic user

[manic cloak]

450 for this.. never used apparently

He doesn’t wanna go for 400, especially with those crusty toes

[pseudo pollen]

It's $500 new, so I'm not sure if it's worth it

[potent portal]

Nah warranty is worth at least $50 imo

[pseudo pollen]

warrantee is how I got a decent psu for $30

[fossil cedar]

lmfao

[manic cloak]

Such a scam ngl

[fossil cedar]

doesnt matter if its used your paying less because its a rando that could scam you

[manic cloak]

I don’t understand people who resell like “brand new” items on fbm, if it is just set up a resell page on amazon..

[potent portal]

risk/cost analysis is like, an entire field of economics

[pseudo pollen]

They're trying to get their money's worth. Amazon and ebay take some fees if you sell there.

[sullen spoke]

Yeah amazon has high fees, facebook is often preferred for preowned selling especially if you are doing local

[potent portal]

It's nothing a basic 10% off coupon couldn't save you as a buyer though, not worth from that angle

[pseudo pollen]

I have no idea what you just said

[fossil cedar]

tldr theyre price is laughable

[potent portal]

You can use any old amazon 10% off coupon and get their asking price for the GPU with full warranty support

[pseudo pollen]

I was looking at your response to the message you replied to instead of the situation

I'm looking at it from the perspective of the seller though, he bought a gpu for presumably msrp or a bit lower, and it's already out of the return period. So you go on fb and sell it there for a bit less then what it's selling for new, since, in your eyes, it's brand new and shouldn't have any differences from a new one.

[potent portal]

And what the seller doesn't realize is that it's VERY different from buying a new one

[lethal tapir]

Yeah, it's not the same at all

If you're reselling something, it's as good as used no matter what went down

Unless it's still shrinkwrapped with the receipt and even still then

[fossil cedar]

it doesnt matter youre gonna get less money for it purely the fact that youre not a business dont provide warranty etc

[lethal tapir]

Exactly

[teal dome]

im once again in need of yalls help

i decided to go 16gb of ddr4 instead of 32 cuz im too broke

which is best for less price and best cas latency

[little osprey]

With what cpu bro?

[mossy venture]

Cheapest 16gb 3200c16

Which I believe is still silicon power

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5

3600c18 for $4 more https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YmDQzy/silicon-power-gaming-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-sp016gxlzu360bdaj5

[teal dome]

5600

I bought the solidgm today

[little osprey]

Then I'd go for the 3200 bacca sent

[teal dome]

Ok

why not the 3600

its like 4 dollars more no?

[real crown]

can y’all tell me if my list is good

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6GX3t7

btw i got the gpu already

[teal dome]

Get a ssd and a hdd

[lone flame]

how much did you spend on the 3070

[vague oracle]

It’s basically all trash

I can’t tell if this is a troll or not

[south cliff]

Just got 9 Apple Watches and a iPad 9th generation for 176 dollars

I’m happy

[mossy venture]

Pls no

One sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KC6ykJ

If you need it cheaper let me know

7600 similar price to 12600k and dont need to buy separate cooler for it, stock is gine

And is a good bit better

Psu, the Thermaltake smart is known for killing builds

Leadex iii is among the best psus, it's 50w lower wattage but it's more than fine for a 3070

Especially with a low wattage cpu like the 7600

[primal linden]

wait why is the 3070 900 dollars

[mossy venture]

Storage, you do NOT want to boot windows from a hard drive

[mossy venture]

They said they bought it alr, im really hoping not at that price

[primal linden]

oh

[teal dome]

Any difference?

[storm arrow]

Just noticed the priced dropped for the msi tomahawk b650 to 175 would you say that's decent?

[mossy venture]

Like 3-5% cpu perf

[mossy venture]

What cpu would you be using with it

If anything below 7800x3d, I'd say just go a620m pro rs

[storm arrow]

7800x3d

[mossy venture]

Are you just buying cpu mobo and ram?

Or making whole new build

Would the $60 diff make a difference going towards another part for you?

If not, and you'd like the nicer io and other small features, go for it

[storm arrow]

No budget, you basically helped me with the build over the weekend

[mossy venture]

I've got the memory of a goldfish lol

Yeah I'd say it's a nice board then

[storm arrow]

You help so many people look

[mossy venture]

I'd say it's between the tomahawk and this for you then https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1725923-REG/msi_x670propwifi_pro_x670_p_wifi_am5.html

Won't make a difference in actual perf so I'd just look at the features of the motherboards, like ports and such and decide off that

[vague oracle]

get the tomahawk over the pro-p

[storm arrow]

For some reason I was checking some site and I thought it said it used 6400 ram but that's wrong I think

[vague oracle]

I’d rather get the Asrock Pro RS over a pro P

[mossy venture]

Yeah you wouldn't want over 6000mhz on amd, but any mobo will set you set whatever speed you want

[mossy venture]

For why?

[vague oracle]

Never really saw anything good with the Pro-P line of motherboards

[mossy venture]

That's like judging a psu by its brand

[vague oracle]

Maybe it’s different now but the reputation sticks with it to me

[storm arrow]

I thought msi had a good rep?

[mossy venture]

Z690 pro p was fine too

Eh, brand doesn't matter much

The x670 pro p is good, so is the b650 tomahawk

The tomahawk would arguably be better but it's mainly which boards features you will use more

[vague oracle]

They’ll all work fine for 99% of people it’s kinda just personal preference if you need more Io and stuff

[mossy venture]

Io, nvmes, etc

[vague oracle]

Or aesthetic

[mossy venture]

Or aesthetic

[storm arrow]

Talking to a noob here lo?

[mossy venture]

All the ports on the back of the mobo

[storm arrow]

So asrock b 650 pro rs, gigabyte pro / elite or msi lol

[real crown]

i got my friends old one

[real crown]

ok

mb!

[real crown]

no i don’t know anything abt pcs

i’m tryina build one

and all i got is the 3070 so far

[real crown]

it’s only a few months old but he upgraded and gave it to me for 25$ it works good and all

[teal dome]

25 bucks? No way bro

[real crown]

yeah we’ve been close for a while

[teal dome]

Huge steal

Also do you need storage? Or do you have a budget or something

[real crown]

i have a budget of around 800 since i got myself a gpu

600-800

idrk

[teal dome]

also do you need a lot of storage?

[real crown]

he told me to get 2tb

[teal dome]

get a sdd instead of a hdd

im not an expert either other people will help you like bacca and felix

[real crown]

okok

[real crown]

lowkey i don’t know much but can this run rust relatively well

that’s my main goal with this pc bc i wanna be able to play it good without much buffer

cause i got rly good wifi i just want a good built

[lethal tapir]

That's a good build

But yeah you'll want an SSD or an NVME storage drive, that's what makes load times go from a minute 1/2 to 3 seconds

[teal dome]

You can do much better for your budget Im sure

[real crown]

i just want a starter for rn

thank you @teal dome @mossy venture @vague oracle for helping me and telling me my build was bad

[teal dome]

You should wait until tmr don’t buy them yet, because if I were you I would like to have a lot of opinions of people to get the best value for my money

[little osprey]

@teal dome Can I dm you rq?

[teal dome]

Sure

[real crown]

yeah

my dad and mom want me to only spend 650 ish since i showed them the deal

[little osprey]

@earnest olive Hey! Am going to build a pc, do you mind taking a look and giving a recomendation to improve?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J7dvWt

Forgot to mention $950 budget, no wifi needed, US, preferablly white(case) Parts, 32gb ram

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XJ2BZJ leaving the case and fans alone since i'm just assuming that's your aesthetic preference

cheaper, more white/rgb, and much more performance

[little osprey]

Do you mind changing the fans, it doesnt give me an option to buy

and for the case?

Do you have anything cheaper but white?

[earnest olive]

it's good for what it is

but the size may constrain future upgrades

since it's a microatx tower

i don't think my gpu would fit in that

[little osprey]

Its a mintower

thats what am worried

Do you have any replacement?

[earnest olive]

i assumed that was something you wanted

[little osprey]

I just choose a white case

Its a mini, which I didnt see 💀

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b7gq34

[little osprey]

That looks good

Do you need extra fans?

or we good on that?

[little osprey]

It comes with 3???

Fans come with cases?

I deadass never knew

[earnest olive]

yes

not always

depends on the case

[little osprey]

Am guessing I should upgrade the CPU?

[earnest olive]

but this one comes with 3

no

[little osprey]

In the future?

[earnest olive]

it's a balanced build

just upgrade everything at once

if you are really hung up on doing a drop in cpu upgrade in the future then go AMD

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hXpFGP

/

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CrX3t7

these are some of the other lists people gave me, Am buying your built but here are the others people suggested

[earnest olive]

7600 is a better choice if you just really really want to be able to upgrade cpu without changing the rest of the system

my list gets you 30-40% more immediate performance

[little osprey]

So if your list added a 7600 would it be better?

[earnest olive]

even though it's cheaper than the other two

i mean

if you want to go over budget sure

it's not going to do anything for you now

[little osprey]

How much over?

just askin

[earnest olive]

the 12400f is plenty for the rx 6800

if you want to spend more money get 2tb storage or a 6800xt lol

no point upgrading cpu

[little osprey]

Am guessing it will be 1k if I get the 6800xt?

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kCkzN6

pretty much

this would be more like a 50-55% bump over the other two lists

[little osprey]

Am going to do a lot of research

thank you

❤️

[mossy venture]

For what its worth, I second everything sips said

12400f is more than fine with a 6800xt at 1440p, id rather 12400f and 6800xt over 7600 and 6700xt any day of the week

[storm arrow]

So asrock b 650 pro rs, gigabyte pro / elite or msi lol

[cyan ravine]

A620m pro rs

[storm arrow]

And it supports ddr5 7200?

[cyan ravine]

Ofc, but you wouldn't do that on AM5

Aim for 6000-6400

Or if you know how to overclock like a pro, 8000+

The speeds between them due to the design of AM5 mean anything in between is slower

[fossil cedar]

But most people are better off with ~6000mhz on ryzen because synced with uclk i believe it is gives better perf

[cyan ravine]

Ye, until you get 8000+

Ofc this is generalising

@storm arrow if you want some proper advice on this, you pick the right ram kit without spending a fortune for it

You can get top shelf ddr5 for the price of $75-$95 for 32gb

[storm arrow]

I accidentally got 6400 thought it was 6

[cyan ravine]

6400 should likely work, if you have issues, go down to 6200

This is for 7800x3d yes?

[storm arrow]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

Ye it should probably work

6000 is basically guaranteed, 6200 is very common, 6400 is uncommon

If it was a ryzen 9 then I'd be way more doubtful of 6400

[storm arrow]

I just noticed the b650 tomahawk went down on price that's what I was going to get but if you recommend this board I'll do that

[cyan ravine]

I do

A620m pro rs gives the same performance

If this wasn't your first pc and you had a lot of experience overclocking I'd recommend something else

The board is good enough for all their cpus amd has out rn

But get the wifi version if you do so

It should be $125

[storm arrow]

Not my first but definitely have no overclocking experience lmao

[cyan ravine]

Otherwise get the a620m gaming x

But the pro rs has the same aesthetic as the b650 so you'll probably like it lol

[mossy venture]

x670 pro p is $150, if the extra features of that board (IO, nvmes etc) would be used by you $25 would be worth it

[cyan ravine]

Yeah the pro p is an option too, but I wouldn't spend anymore than that

If you wanted a ton of storage, need the extra pcie slots for something like an ethernet nic or sound card, nvme enclosure

Capture card etc

Otherwise just go with the two a620m's I suggested

[mossy venture]

It's also full atx if you care about the aesthetic of that

[cyan ravine]

Ye

Those are pretty much the only 3 we'd suggest

You get the 99% am5 experience without spending a fortune

[mossy venture]

Yeah am5 mobos are weirdly priced

[grave ledge]

Would be a good motherboard and operating system to get for my first build

[cyan ravine]

Budget, region, what's the pc for? Wifi? Monitor, Keyboard and mouse included?

[mossy venture]

And have you bought anything yet?

[cyan ravine]

@grave ledge

Chat here

[cyan ravine]

^

We'll do all the planning for you in a few minutes with just these answers

[mossy venture]

Like felix said, budget for whole pc, country, use case, personal preferences like size, black or white, rgb or no rgb, do you need wifi, do you need more storage than the average user, etc

Do you need monitor/keeb/mouse in budget, if you have a monitor what is it

[grave ledge]

I definitely need a monitor

And what is RGB

[cyan ravine]

Pretty lights

https://tenor.com/view/gaming-pc-lian-li-o11-gif-20528283

Like this

If you're into that

Lol

(not me)

[grave ledge]

Yeah I want RGB

[cyan ravine]

Alr what's your budget

Do you need a keyboard and mouse

[mossy venture]

And country

[grave ledge]

And I definitely need a monitor to the main thing that's going to take a big amount of time to save up for is the RTX 4090

[mossy venture]

Ok so

[grave ledge]

Yes I do

[mossy venture]

If you're saving money up for it I would recommend the 7900xtx instead

[cyan ravine]

Ok wait hold up

[mossy venture]

It outpaces the 4080 and is around $890-960 depending on sales

[cyan ravine]

How much have you saved up

[mossy venture]

And if you're not buying this right now, a parts list is irrelevant as prices change daily, let alone in months

[cyan ravine]

For your first PC I wouldn't recommend a 4090

[grave ledge]

What would be your recommendation then

And yeah I probably do need to make a parts list

[cyan ravine]

What resolution do you want to game in

[grave ledge]

Does 7900 XTX perform better than the 4080 or just about the same

[cyan ravine]

A fair bit better

[lethal tapir]

Mas y menos

[cyan ravine]

But what's your budget lol

[autumn gulch]

So you have 2000 +to spend on a pc?

[grave ledge]

Honestly I'm not sure at the moment I'm still saving up for it I never even thought about keyboard and mouse or monitor until you just said that

[cyan ravine]

Fair enough

[lethal tapir]

Have you ever built a pc before

[grave ledge]

Nope I was just saving up for it andbuying stuff as I go

[lethal tapir]

May want to practice on cheaper parts first for exp

[cyan ravine]

Alr for your first pc I'd recommend something quite simple. I'll make something up real quick

This will be a 1080p ultra build

[grave ledge]

Nope I'm a newbie

[autumn gulch]

Yea that’s not usually how it works

You gotta save up and buy it at once

Or at least within a close time

[lethal tapir]

I would hate to spend a grand on a card just to break it trying to plug it in

[grave ledge]

True do you know which parts would be cheaper but still give me like a good game experience

[lethal tapir]

12100k, b660m, 6600rx, ddr4 ram, any ssd

[autumn gulch]

It’s not that hard to build it

Just watch a video or something

[lethal tapir]

No but it's nerve wracking your first time

[grave ledge]

Hey I was hoping I could just save up for a different parts and just buy them separately yeah but I probably do need to save up and just buy it all at once cuz I still need a keyboard and monitor and a whole bunch of other stuff

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r3vmgB

[autumn gulch]

I’ve never built A full pc, but I know how to with my eyes closed

[autumn gulch]

Usually you buy keyboard and mouse last but yea the pc you’d want to buy the stuff at once

[lethal tapir]

I bought mine in waves over about a month, and used pay-in-four for a gpu

[mossy venture]

You wouldn't wanna do this

[lethal tapir]

Just to spread the cost out

[mossy venture]

You want to buy everything at once, because if you get a DOA part you won't know till you build

[lethal tapir]

Yeah thats true

[grave ledge]

What do you mean by DOA

[mossy venture]

Dead on arrival

It's rare but possible

[grave ledge]

Lol

[grave ledge]

I'm going to save this build and just buy a keyboard and mouse with it I'm just going to keep saving up my money until I can get it

[autumn gulch]

What games are you even trying to play with it

Cause I’m pretty sure most of those fps games and non triple a ones will run on like a 1060

[mossy venture]

I'd check back here when you're going to buy, prices change daily

[grave ledge]

I was thinking fortnite maybe Black Ops 3

[cyan ravine]

@grave ledge
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y3M6RK

[lethal tapir]

You don't need a 4k card to have a good time

[mossy venture]

I think there's a 7600 with rgb for $230 Felix

[lethal tapir]

A card that can produce a smooth gameplay experience is fine

[autumn gulch]

Yea get a 80 dollar gtx 1070

[cyan ravine]

But it no white

[mossy venture]

Fair

[cyan ravine]

$20 for white is fine

Also g.skill finally cheap trident

[grave ledge]

Do you have a link for the part

And thank you everyone for all your help for now I'm just going to focus on saving up so when I get enough money I'll come back here

[cyan ravine]

Sounds good

But yea we would suggest something quite mid range for your first pc

Going straight to the top is the quick way to find out you probably didn't want to spend that much after all

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[grave ledge]

Thanks for the advisor it would have been so bad if I actually saved up the money and just f***** up the whole thing

[cyan ravine]

Right?

[obsidian wigeon]

and there's a phenomenon called when you upgrade in hardware, you play games less

[cyan ravine]

You'd feel better playing with normal stuff

Instead of literal money stacks in hardware

[obsidian wigeon]

^

start with something modest

[cyan ravine]

And these pc's are very competent anyway

[grave ledge]

🤣

[cyan ravine]

Nowadays it's less about how high you go, more about what you're aiming for as an experience

You can quite easily get a solid gaming experience for everything you want on sub 1000

[grave ledge]

I just want a nice experience

[cyan ravine]

Hell yeah

1080p ultra would look pretty good already

[grave ledge]

Always thought about getting a game with PC because when I was younger my brother had gotten a gaming laptop and Acer one and we were playing fortnite on it it wasn't bad but it wasn't really great either

So then I imagine would it be like to have my own gaming PC with all the lights and stuff

[cyan ravine]

Lol

I remember being like that

The honeymoon experience of pc enthusiasm

You want the flashy lights, the fast hardware

The showoff factor

[autumn gulch]

Nah, just go on eBay or Facebook marketplace

[grave ledge]

[autumn gulch]

There’s usually a bunch of them there

[grave ledge]

Thanks Gumball where's Darwin

[cyan ravine]

We've all been there. Just shop smart and you can show off loud and proud

[autumn gulch]

Aquarium

[grave ledge]

[grave ledge]

Of course you would leave him there

[real crown]

could someone help me replace my power supply im just tryina get a new one asap bc the one i was gonna get is unavailable

[mossy venture]

Country and what gpu/cpu

And how much are you looking to spend

[real crown]

u.s. gpu is a zotac 3070, cpu is a runen 5 7600

[real crown]

maybe 25-50

[mossy venture]

This would be bare minimum
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xLtKHx/apevia-prestige-600-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-atx-rp600w

[cyan ravine]

Yeah I would consider that the only choice near 50

Would ideally spend more than 50

[real crown]

i remember you gave me a build last night but the power supply was sold out

[mossy venture]

Leadex iii 550 I'd imagine

That's what I was going to suggest but yeah it's oos

Also did you spend $900 on that 3070?

Because if so please please please return it

[cyan ravine]

Good lord 900

You can get gpus twice as fast for that

[mossy venture]

Yeah 7900xtx for a lil bit more lol

[real crown]

nono i got it for 25

my friends old one

[mossy venture]

Nice ok

Just bc the price in the list was $900 I was worried lol

[real crown]

he got a 3090

[real crown]

yeah i’m good i didn’t spend that much

[mossy venture]

Mind sending the list one more time?

[real crown]

yeah give me a sec

[mossy venture]

I'll check it over just to make sure everything's good

[real crown]

i’m gonna add the newer power supply

so gimme 2-3

[mossy venture]

And if you want it cheaper lmk, it might be worth making it a bit cheaper in some areas to get a better psu

[real crown]

okay that would be nice, i’m trying to get one for my birthday which is in oct

[mossy venture]

Prices change pretty often, to a list today won't be a great option in October

Atleast not all the parts likely

[real crown]

no but my family is buying a lot of the parts rn

can i dm you rq @mossy venture

[mossy venture]

Yeye

@real crown

[little osprey]

@mossy venture I saw your message but I didnt understand

Did you have a better suggestion for https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kCkzN6?

[earnest olive]

my next build is probably gonna be flashy too..

oops

[mossy venture]

no, aside from maybe d.f2 850 for $5 more

could cut price in a few areas if you want it cheaper

[little osprey]

how can it be cut? it wont be low quality parts right?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kYrL28

[fossil cedar]

D.f2 is only b tier tho

[mossy venture]

gx pro is C tier, no?

[little osprey]

@mossy venture Dont you think the video card shouldn't be 50% of the budget 💀

or am I wrong?

[fossil cedar]

Thought it was b can't remember

[mossy venture]

it should be

[little osprey]

@mossy venture Is there any other graphics cards very similar in performance but cheaper than

PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card

Or will it make performance drop dramastically

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hg92FT/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-16-gb-speedster-swft-319-video-card-rx-68xlaqfd9

[fossil cedar]

Legion is b

[little osprey]

What is the difference between XT and that product?

[mossy venture]

ah

[little osprey]

are we looking at like a 20% reduction?

of preformance?

[mossy venture]

still $5 for better efficiency extra 100w and 12vphwr connector (even though it's kinda pointless)

[mossy venture]

around 15% i think sips said the other day

[little osprey]

Do you think a NVidia RTX TI video card would be cheaper and closer performance to the video card?PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card

[mossy venture]

no

6800xt is not far behind 3080 ti

[little osprey]

Do you think the 15% reduction is worth it?

for the price?

[mossy venture]

up to you

could go cheaper on psu too

toughpower grand rgb 650 is $75 after rebate

[little osprey]

Sorry for asking you so many questions, if we are talking fps wise, how much of a difference would the 2 graphics card be?

[mossy venture]

it depends on games

[little osprey]

Counter Strike? Fortnite ? Rust?

[mossy venture]

csgo not much

[little osprey]

We talking like 100 fps difference in these games?

[mossy venture]

no

nowhere close

[little osprey]

what are we looking at?

25-30?

[fleet heron]

Close enough that there is no significant difference

[little osprey]

👍

[mossy venture]

false

compared side to side you would def see a difference

you can search benchmarks on youtube

[little osprey]

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-6800-XT-vs-AMD-RX-6800/4089vs4088

@mossy venture This is right?

[mossy venture]

no

ubm is absolute trash

oh wait also

7800xt is $500 now

this is more accurate

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-7800-xt-rx7800xt-cl-16go/p/N82E16814930106

[little osprey]

@mossy venture So I can get a 7800 xt which is better than the 6800 for the same price?

out of stock

💀

[mossy venture]

oh wait thats oos, but you can back order it

alr one sec lemme look around

[little osprey]

@mossy venture Take your time

and for this build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kYrL28

Do you think its smart

to change the ram

to a white color?

Just tryna do the athestics

[mossy venture]

it's up to you

if you like the look of it go for it

just stick to 3200c16

[little osprey]

Am tryna find the 32gb ram but white

[mossy venture]

looks like 7800xt is oos everywhere, so i guess that's off the table

[little osprey]

all its giving me is $80

[mossy venture]

i got you, one sec

[little osprey]

Thank you

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kYrL28

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/67XV3C/timetec-pinnacle-konduit-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-pkmd4u32c16cnhw16gk2

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LTYhgB

Ok

So almost done

@little osprey Should I wait for the 7600 to be restocked?

@mossy venture *

What’s the cheapest platform for ITX currently?

[mossy venture]

7600?

[mossy venture]

prob am4 maybe?

[little osprey]

7800 XT*

[mossy venture]

or maybe lga 1700 with z690m itx

[little osprey]

Since its currently back order, and I have no clue when it will restock

[mossy venture]

eh, it's up to you. It's not much better than the 6800xt, they're basically the same with the 7800xt having a few more features

[little osprey]

I was looking into doing LGA1150 but wondering if there’s cheaper options