#building-and-recc-chat

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mossy venture
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And then later on when you can I'd add 16gb more ram, but thats easy enough

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Basically the easiest thing to upgrade

primal linden
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apevia prestige got the ketchup and mustard cables

mossy venture
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Then one sec

primal linden
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yay

mossy venture
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Lemme see if I can fit that monitor and 6700xt in budget

primal linden
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oo

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yeah ill get that one then

mossy venture
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So $8 over budget, you could leave the fans out for now and add them later if the budget is strictly $1000

primal linden
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couldnt i try to find a 2 pack

mossy venture
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2 packs aren't really a thing

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The case would be fine with just the one fan for now

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Not like you're running super hot components

primal linden
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oh ok

mossy venture
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Or you could get a different case, that comes with more fans

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There's some options around $55-60

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Like cougar mesh archon, comes with I think 3 and is $57

primal linden
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eh

mossy venture
mossy venture
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Actually I'd look for every part at microcenter, not those specific ones just similar ones, like any model 6700xt, if there's any there that are cheaper

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Or any similar performing gpu

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Ssd I doubt there'd be cheaper at microcenter

primal linden
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best i could find at micro center is like

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a montech x3

mossy venture
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Potentially a better psu for a similar price

mossy venture
primal linden
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60

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i think

mossy venture
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If its more than the g300a or archon nah

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Yeah not worth

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Maybe gpu or psu though?

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If they do have any cheaper psus just make sure you look for them on the tier list

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C tier or higher

primal linden
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alr

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honestly i might just get the g300a and stay with 1 fan for a bit

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is that msi psu c or higher

mossy venture
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I'll double check but unless it was moved its C tier

primal linden
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i dont really neeed anything higher then c

mossy venture
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Yeah its C tier

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I mean, 6700xt is a 220w gpu iirc?

primal linden
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aw damn

mossy venture
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5600x3d won't go over 80w in gaming, for the sake of the estimate let's call it 100w

primal linden
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its min psu is 650w

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ok

mossy venture
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Nah

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320w from cpu and gpu, at most 50w (grossly overestimating here) means you'll be pulling under 400w

primal linden
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which means i need

mossy venture
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A 650w C tier is fine

primal linden
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oh ok

manic cloak
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wait

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What build does I like AMD have

mossy venture
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Soon to have a 5600x3d 6700xt I believe

primal linden
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soon to have

mossy venture
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I've no idea if they have a pc as of right now

manic cloak
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Is there a pcpp?

primal linden
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yeah i do

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mac

manic cloak
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let me see real quick cause I was just at MC

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lmao

primal linden
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i hate it

mossy venture
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Probably without the fans for now

primal linden
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most likely

mossy venture
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Not a clue what they'd have but can't hurt to look

primal linden
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bet

manic cloak
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All overpriced

mossy venture
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Eh, varies location to location

primal linden
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overpriced or very good deal

mossy venture
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Odds are there won't be anything worth it but why not take a look

primal linden
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30 dollars a fan is crazy

manic cloak
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Ya..

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I mean arctic fans

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Good deal but it’s not rgb

primal linden
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lemme see if i can find some black rgb fans

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if i dont im fine with 1 fan

manic cloak
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Ehhh

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1 fan isn’t a good thing, especially if it’s only exhaust

mossy venture
mossy venture
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It won't be ideal but they won't be throttling

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And they're going to add fans when they can

primal linden
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yes

manic cloak
mossy venture
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Can also find some dirt cheap fans on fbm likely

mossy venture
manic cloak
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Nothing much really

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I mean if he got an matx mobo then the air 100 could work

mossy venture
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They want the g300a, they like the look

manic cloak
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It’s practically the same thing ngl

mossy venture
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And with the combo can't really change the mobo, unless there's a different 5600x3d bundle?

manic cloak
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Just atx

primal linden
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i like the price

manic cloak
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Cause you could say “my movo doesn’t fit” and they’ll understand

primal linden
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wait what

mossy venture
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Interesting

primal linden
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wrd

mossy venture
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W/e, either way

manic cloak
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I mean mobo

primal linden
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i like the ai voice mic thingy on the mobo

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but if they actually do that

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hey

manic cloak
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They should

mossy venture
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The mobo there fits the g300a

manic cloak
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I saw some guy buying 6 4060’s walking out

mossy venture
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Only do that if you want a smaller case

primal linden
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oh yeah

manic cloak
mossy venture
primal linden
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wrd

mossy venture
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Right below that

manic cloak
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Ahh

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Signal is crap here

primal linden
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if the bitfenix nova mesh was in stock i would get it instead

manic cloak
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Everything loads slow

primal linden
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smol micro atx

manic cloak
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If you ever thought

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Or don’t even recommend

mossy venture
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I think air 100 is oos

manic cloak
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Biggest metal piece of crap

mossy venture
manic cloak
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Which store

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Do you go to @primal linden

primal linden
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micro center

manic cloak
primal linden
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oh

manic cloak
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Stand offs are cheap, the case itself is cheap

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It’s like a car door

primal linden
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dayum

manic cloak
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Lightly bump into it? It’ll dent

mossy venture
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I mean, that's kinda what you get with most cougar/montech and similar brand cases

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Cheap cases are cheaply made

manic cloak
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It was real nice quality

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Unless that’s the display model itself

mossy venture
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There's some decent cases by those brands

primal linden
mossy venture
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But cheap cases are made with cheap parts, the g300a is nice because phanteks didn't cheap out on it

primal linden
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i can get the cpu mobo and ram for 275 cause of coupon

mossy venture
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Oh right

primal linden
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unless micro center allows multiple coupons

mossy venture
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That's great

primal linden
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ikr

manic cloak
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No it’s only one

primal linden
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eh

mossy venture
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Wait

primal linden
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good enough

manic cloak
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But is it 25$ off cpu or 25$ off everything?

primal linden
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lemme check

mossy venture
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Do they allow multiple coupons if you get multiple items?

manic cloak
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1 coupon per order

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Just like most stores

mossy venture
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Ah damn

primal linden
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$25 off 100$ purchase or more

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so yeah

manic cloak
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He could do separate

mossy venture
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Then you can get everything including the fans in budget

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Pog

manic cloak
primal linden
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ers

manic cloak
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Then do the 25$ off 100+ for gpu if you get it at mc

primal linden
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wait thats a thing

manic cloak
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Ya

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Just desperate transactions

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Seperste*

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Separate**

primal linden
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cpu

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step outside the store

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order

mossy venture
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I love myself some desparate transactions (pulling your leg)

manic cloak
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Make sure you get starfield with your

primal linden
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gpu

manic cloak
primal linden
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i can get it all in one visit tho right

manic cloak
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Yup

primal linden
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alr

manic cloak
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Just walk out, walk back in.

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If you ever think of getting a smaller mobo though ^

primal linden
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i dont see a gpu coupon but theres is a coupon for submitting a build

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is the air 100 good

manic cloak
primal linden
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yeah

cerulean ether
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Got a question, my AOI came with fans on the same side as the tubes to the radiator , they blow out the front across the radiator , no way to mount it on the top due to not enough venting,
I got told I needed to turn the fans around to pull air in across the radiator, so question is, should I turn the fans around or or leave them as they are, or put them on the other side of the radiator?

primal linden
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i dont got a build tho

manic cloak
primal linden
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oh

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ok

manic cloak
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Just a random one lol

primal linden
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do you need pictures or

manic cloak
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Ye

primal linden
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heading to pc part picker

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actually ill do that

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the day when im gonna buy it

manic cloak
primal linden
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i can still get the bundle tho right

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OR

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do i not

mossy venture
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Do

primal linden
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ok

mossy venture
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5600x3d bundle unbeatable for that price

primal linden
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true

mossy venture
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Though it does have more ram

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Also worse mobo

primal linden
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yep

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which 6700 xt should i get

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i wanna get the sapphire one but its $10 extra

mossy venture
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The cheapest one aside from mech 2x

primal linden
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the asrock one looks cool but idk

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mech 2x not on mc sadly

mossy venture
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If you like the aesthetic of one $10 more is reasonable

mossy venture
primal linden
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oh

mossy venture
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I dont even think they made anything over a 6650xt of it

primal linden
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alr

mossy venture
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Its ass

primal linden
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nah theres a mech 6700 xt and 6750 xt

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wow

mossy venture
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I miss 6700xt being $310 consistently

primal linden
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shame that i just started getting into the pc building world thingy

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around

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prime day

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and fastastech sale

mossy venture
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Lowkey... https://www.amazon.com/MSI-192-bit-2600MHz-FreeSync-Graphics/dp/B0C5YSQJQQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_18?m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&pf_rd_i=10158976011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=f29899d2-ac23-4bac-9f3f-8a5abd85e262&pf_rd_r=M8WBMAZMRHBRC6CT4F36&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-5&pf_rd_t=30901&qid=1693601324&rnid=10158976011&s=warehouse-deals&sr=1-18

MSI Gaming Radeon RX 6750 XT 192-bit 12GB GDDR6 Boost Clock 2600MHz...

The new AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT graphic cards are optimized for DirectStorage to help reduce load times in games and bring expansive worlds to life in amazing detail. The Radeon RX 6000 Series graphic cards take full advantage of the latest innovations in upscaling technologies such as AMD Fidelity...

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I'm not fixing link I'm on mobile it's annoying

primal linden
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ngl that aint bad

mossy venture
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It is mech 2x, which like I said sucks

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But uv it a lil bit and it'd be fine

primal linden
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oh shoot the 6750 is on mc

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challenger for $360

mossy venture
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https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Standard-DisplayPort-Axial-tech-Technology/dp/B08YWRFSQB/ref=mp_s_a_1_24?m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&pf_rd_i=10158976011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=f29899d2-ac23-4bac-9f3f-8a5abd85e262&pf_rd_r=M8WBMAZMRHBRC6CT4F36&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-5&pf_rd_t=30901&qid=1693601461&refinements=p_36%3A1253507011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A79630714011|79630736011|79630856011&rnid=79630706011&s=warehouse-deals&sr=1-24

ASUS Dual AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT Standard Edition Gaming Graphics Ca...

Delivering the latest AMD RDNA 2 architecture experience in its purest form, the ASUS DUAL Radeon RX 6700 XT melds performance and simplicity like no other. Leveraging advanced cooling technologies derived from flagship graphics cards, the Dual opts for substance over style, the perfect choice fo...

mossy venture
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Theyre very similar

primal linden
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yeah im probably gonna get the 6700 xt challenger with the coupon

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if it was still 310 i would be getting it for 290

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no

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285 i think

mossy venture
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How much is it after the coupon?

primal linden
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330-25 is 305

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so 305 for it

mossy venture
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Nice

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So you'll actually be a bit under budget even after the fans

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W

primal linden
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dubs

mossy venture
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Potentially could even upgrade ram now

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Or go for a better psu, whichever you'd want

primal linden
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more ram maybe

mossy venture
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Would just either get an identical kit as the ram that comes in the bundle and run 4 sticks, or sell it and buy a 2x16 kit

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4x8 3200mhz should easily run on an 5000 series cpu

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Also on an x3d cpu, unlike on other am4 cpus, 3200mhz vs 3600mhz makes almost no difference

primal linden
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hmm

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but 4x8 sticks and 2x16 are the same thing right

mossy venture
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They both equal 32gb

primal linden
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true

mossy venture
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Normally less sticks is easier to run, but in this case i can say almost for certain it won't matter

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Can't say for certain

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Since there's always a chance for pretty much anything

primal linden
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what 2x16 sticks would you recommend

mossy venture
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Would you like rgb? And or black?

primal linden
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rgb

mossy venture
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Kk few min

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GdNv6h/silicon-power-xpower-turbine-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdb
Or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7MVmP6/oloy-blade-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-nd4u1636181drkde
Probably

Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 M...

Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (SP032GXLZU320BDB)

OLOy Blade RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (ND4U1636181...

OLOy Blade RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (ND4U1636181DRKDE)

primal linden
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the xpower one looks pretty cool

little osprey
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@plucky timber

IMG_1860.jpg
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Attempt two without extensions and fans

plucky timber
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damn

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that looks so much nicer

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wait

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Phanteks?

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P300A?

lyric thistle
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👍

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idr what my cable management looks like in my other pc

primal linden
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wait theres a p300a?

little osprey
little osprey
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I have one

primal linden
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wowzers

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can I see front pls

plucky timber
primal linden
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noice

plucky timber
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Phanteks cases are pretty nice to build in

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fractal's also pretty nice

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haven't tried lianli

primal linden
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yeah im building my 1st in a G300A

primal linden
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what is the appeal of NZXT cases

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they look good tho NGL

plucky timber
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They look good

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that's the appeal

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not a fan of them tho

primal linden
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wow

plucky timber
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airflow is mid at best

primal linden
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bonkers

plucky timber
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depends on what parts you put in them tho

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it would be fine if the restricted airflow isn't a problem

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they do have airflow variants of their cases

primal linden
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if they costed less they would be better

plucky timber
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yeah

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that's why i go with phanteks or fractal

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you get a better case for the same price

primal linden
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i was gonna go with bitfenix but they’re all out of stock

primal linden
plucky timber
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it is kinda subjective tho

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so it's kinda hard to value a case

wary tundra
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I bought a focus g mini thinking I could fit a full atx in it

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I'm malding so hard

primal linden
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crazy

primal linden
mossy venture
primal linden
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why

cyan ravine
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The world of warcraft mouse 💀💀💀

obsidian wigeon
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wtf is that cursed list

primal linden
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the diabetes ultra super mega nuemono swift TCL ASUS ULTRA 1400P 90RK 40KD Ratio

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build

plucky timber
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As someone who values price to performance

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It hurts me to open the link

obsidian wigeon
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it's not even bad value anymore

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that's just beyond cursed

primal linden
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thats the purpose

plucky timber
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wait

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foxy promotion?

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pog

obsidian wigeon
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yes

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my name turned red

primal linden
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radical

empty pollen
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gratz foxxy, i knew you could do it

teal dome
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Can I build a pc with no graphics card but with integrated graphics until I get a graphics card later?

mossy venture
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yes

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what's your budget for the build?

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@teal dome

teal dome
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Prob a 1000 with the gpu but I already got the build

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Imma get a gpu later tho

mossy venture
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you can fit a gpu in $700

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you can fit a gpu in $500 now

teal dome
mossy venture
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i mean, what are you using the pc for?

teal dome
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I don’t wanna upgrade until maybe 5-6 years but play every game

mossy venture
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and can you show the build here?

mossy venture
teal dome
mossy venture
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I'd change some stuff around, but not a bad list

teal dome
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Ok change some and send me it

mossy venture
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it has 64gb of ram in there, you don't want that

teal dome
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Thank you

teal dome
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I’m not gonna buy 64 gigs

mossy venture
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kk

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that would be a better option

teal dome
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Ok

teal dome
mossy venture
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g300a is nicer but if you like the one you picked go for it

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if you just want rgb there's rgb of those fans for $6 more

teal dome
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Ok also does 7600 have integrated graphics

mossy venture
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yeah all of the am5 lineup does aside from 7500f

teal dome
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Alright

teal dome
mossy venture
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extra 100w and same tier, for same price

teal dome
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Alright

little osprey
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Will the noctua NH-D15S be enough for a 7900x

mossy venture
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Yes but it's overpriced

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Ps120 se is just as good and cheaper

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Or thermalright frozen notte 240, 360 is cheaper than d15 too and much better

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Or pa120se, ft120, fc140, etc

little osprey
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can get it for 60

mossy venture
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Basically any dual tower cooler from thermalright

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Ps120 se is $40

little osprey
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looking to stay with noctua

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im concered about temps will i overheat or have problems

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also i have some credit on amazon that brings it close to that price

mossy venture
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The ps120 se is just as good as the d15.

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Potentially better

cyan ravine
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Better than d15.

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In fact with the c12c's it uses it's as good or otherwise better on basically all levels

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For $36 or so instead of lord knows what a d15 costs in 2023 lmao

obsidian wigeon
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more expensive doesn't always mean more better anyway

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especially not with noctua these days

tawny violet
obsidian wigeon
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noctua's only saving grace is the silence of their fans

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and that's only the one advantage they have, which doesn't even justify the price tags anymore

tawny violet
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inb4 AK620 with noctua black fans

tawny violet
obsidian wigeon
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yeah, but that's probably gonna still be overpriced anyway

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and i doubt it would perform much better

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there's zero sense in buying noctuas

tawny violet
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" the second-generation NH-D15 has a fin pitch of 1.6mm instead of 1.9mm, equivalent to 20% more surface area for improved heat dissipation'"

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along with 2 more heatpipes

obsidian wigeon
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doesn't translate to 20% better heat dissipation tho

tawny violet
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oh and offset mounting

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for improved compatibility

obsidian wigeon
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it will bring temps down sure but like

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is the price tag gonna even be worth justifying it?

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at that point the amount of money might as well be spent on an aio

tawny violet
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it's planned to be 99 USD for the D15 refresh

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at launch

obsidian wigeon
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OOF

tawny violet
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then again

obsidian wigeon
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$99 kekw

tawny violet
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it's not out until Q2 2024 so

obsidian wigeon
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yeah no you can literally get good aios for that money

tawny violet
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oh wait

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my bad

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that's just TomsHardware speculating

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Noctua gave no specific price tag for it

obsidian wigeon
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99 doesn't sound out of place for noctua

tawny violet
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I am sorry

obsidian wigeon
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they act as that "premium" brand

tawny violet
obsidian wigeon
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that still isn't even competing

tawny violet
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tbf we'll just have to wait and see until GN tests it thoroughly and we'll also see the price tag then

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it can be really good if the price isn't outrageous

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but it is Noctua so who knows

obsidian wigeon
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i mean

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isn't nh-u12 redux $50

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lol

tawny violet
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I can check

obsidian wigeon
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and that's outperformed by some thermalrights

tawny violet
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without shipping

obsidian wigeon
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ouch

tawny violet
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Yeah it's a

obsidian wigeon
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i doubt noctua will price it fairly

tawny violet
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Not great deal for the U12 Redux

obsidian wigeon
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at least $90

tawny violet
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we'll see

obsidian wigeon
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not we'll see, it's literally doomed to fail value wise

tawny violet
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I'm simply saying miracles exist

obsidian wigeon
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not with noctua

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until it starts beating aios i'll consider it

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but frankly aios do look nicer anyway, personally speaking

tawny violet
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AIOs are pretty sexy yes

But if anything breaks you're SOL

obsidian wigeon
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hence warranty

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or just get a thermalright and slap noctua fans in if you feel so inclined

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or thermalright fans again, since there's fans from them that uses same oem as noctua

fossil cedar
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B12 are basically the a12x25s ye

carmine summit
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I’ve got this EVGA600B PSU but I see it’s rated tier F on the PSU tier list even tho it’s an 80+ Bronze rated and from a reputable brand. I bought it used as part of a bulk buy and I’m wondering if I am able to use it for a flip or not?

Lmk what you think

earnest olive
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reputable brand doesn't mean much

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I've seen pictures of house fires caused by evga n1/w1 units

primal linden
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that bad huh

earnest olive
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well, on average, no

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house fires are obviously extreme cases for any power supply

primal linden
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oh

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it can still happen

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which is

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horrible

earnest olive
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theoretically it could happen with the best power supply money can buy

primal linden
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whaaat

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no way

earnest olive
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just the higher quality unit you buy the less that risk becomes

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with high or even mid quality power supplies the risk of a failure that catastrophic is effectively 0

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due to the protections

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but like

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no power supply is gonna stand up to something crazy like a lightning strike lol

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it’s hard to speak in absolutes

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it’s perfectly possible that you use an F tier power supply for 12 years with zero issues whatsoever

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it’s also perfectly possible that an RM850 suffers a catastrophic failure within a month

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the point of a higher quality unit is that you’ll have better chances when disaster does occur

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I literally blew up a 2060 on my test bench a few weeks ago

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like, an actual flame coming out of the graphics card

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the rest of my system was completely undamaged by it

#

if it was hooked up to a worse power supply maybe some other parts of the system would be damaged

primal linden
#

atleast it didnt blow up everything

earnest olive
#

maybe the gpu would kill the motherboard with it

#

etc

primal linden
#

how old was the 2060

earnest olive
#

high quality power supplies will shut down quickly when something goes out of spec

primal linden
#

so would a power supply in the middle be better

earnest olive
#

low quality power supplies might not react quickly enough so other things get damaged

#

better in what way

primal linden
#

oh

earnest olive
#

obviously high quality is better objectively

primal linden
#

you said shut down quickly

#

mb

earnest olive
#

but you also don’t want to spend a ton of your budget on a $120 psu for a $600 build

primal linden
#

true

earnest olive
#

luckily budget builds usually draw less power so the power supply being a bit weaker is okay

primal linden
#

slap an apevia prestige on it

#

orrrrr

#

corsair smth idk

earnest olive
#

it gets more difficult when your budget build consists of older high end hardware

#

like a 1080ti is a budget card these days

#

but it still demands quite a bit of power

#

I wouldn’t be very comfortable pairing a 1080ti with an apevia prestige

primal linden
#

on a tight budget some people gotta do it

#

but hey

#

the extra 25 dollars is worth it

#

nobody likes c4

earnest olive
#

yeah I’d probably be looking to save money buying a higher quality unit used instead

#

if that was my situation

primal linden
#

prob

#

is buying used psu's viable

earnest olive
#

yes, but have to tread more carefully than usual

primal linden
#

Ask them to run benchmarks on it 😎

earnest olive
#

I’ve bought a few used psus that were great

#

evga b-stock is also often a nice place to get used power supplies with a bit more confidence behind them

#

sometimes they have crazy deals like used EVGA 750 GT for $50 with 1 year warranty

primal linden
#

noice

#

man if i had more money earlier i woulda made huge mistake

earnest olive
#

you could definitely power a 1080ti with that

primal linden
#

Buying an aresgame psu

earnest olive
#

750 GT would be a comfortable pairing with like a 4080 lol

primal linden
#

wow

#

wait is 1080 ti that power hungry

earnest olive
#

1080ti is nominally a 250W card

#

in practice my 1080ti drew more power than my current 4080 does

#

my old 1080ti drew 370W

primal linden
#

wow

earnest olive
#

my current 4080 is bios modded to have a 420W power limit yet seldom exceeds 350W

primal linden
#

it aged pretty well

#

im looking at benchmarks

#

its pretty kewl

earnest olive
#

yeah it's still quite a good performer

#

you can still run all games on the 1080ti

#

time to go out, take care

primal linden
#

bye

#

you too

south cliff
#

Do y’all think this motherboard will still works

#

All the way to the left

#

It’s a little out of place

little osprey
#

And should function as normal

south cliff
#

I think another one is a little out of place

#

I think I did it while taking out a cpu

little osprey
#

I've dealt with this on the CPU end of things

south cliff
#

I couldn’t get a good enough grip on it

#

But it worked before I took it out

little osprey
#

I'm trying to remember what I used

#

To bend the pins back into place

teal dome
#

Should I buy 6700xt for 250 used?

little osprey
#

About average price depending on the card model

south cliff
#

Fixed it a little bit

#

Should I install the cpu again and see if it corrects it?

little osprey
#

If not then go back and check

south cliff
#

Alright

#

Also wdym slide in there with no issues

runic spruce
#

that could be a ground pin or extra pin and not really do anything

little osprey
#

I just got off work and I'm not thinking straight

south cliff
#

I still put in

#

Your all good

little osprey
#

Alright, give it a test

#

I don't believe anything should go wrong if it doesn't work

#

If it posts let me know

runic spruce
#

Keep the black lid thing that came with the board, it’s used for warranty and exchange iirc

little osprey
#

It's just good to keep for reselling too

south cliff
little osprey
#

People like when original contents are with it

#

Did you buy it used?

south cliff
#

No

#

I got it for free

#

From my uncle

little osprey
#

Ah okay

south cliff
#

I took the whole pc apart

#

And when I took out the cpu I saw the bottom left looked a little off

runic spruce
#

I mean if it’s like a little it should be ok but idk

south cliff
#

Do I need to put a cooler on the cpu

runic spruce
#

Your image is kinda blurry so I can’t really tell how bent it is, I’d try seeing if it works before bending

runic spruce
south cliff
#

For testing

runic spruce
#

Yes

#

CPUs heat up really quick

south cliff
#

Every time I use thermal paste I get it everywhere

runic spruce
#

U put an x on the cpu then u clean it afterwards with 90% acholol

#

And a paper towel

south cliff
#

I just gotta see if it posts

#

I’m giving it to my friend tomorrow

#

I’m hoping it works

manic cloak
#

UHHHHHH

#

@obsidian wigeon congrats on mod btw

manic cloak
#

Wasn’t bad as mine

#

I keep thinking the middle is broken but it isn’t

south cliff
#

You get thermal paste in it

manic cloak
#

Tbh I might get a new board

olive cypress
#

Use a metal spoon to remove the thermal paste

manic cloak
#

Used a sewing needle

olive cypress
#

Mhmh
I was kidding btw

#

Don't use metal stuff on pc parts, especially more sensitive and delicate parts like the socket

frigid night
manic cloak
#

Yup, plus I got a few bent pins

runic spruce
#

Nvm

#

Didn’t read that u said kidding

stark marlin
#

low budget build

teal dome
stark marlin
#

but i can probably remove it for a 2tb

#

hdd

teal dome
primal linden
#

yeah

teal dome
#

1tb or 2tb ssd is good

primal linden
#

is it for gaming

stark marlin
#

dont really have time but a bit of val lol

primal linden
#

what is its main purpose

stark marlin
#

work/games

primal linden
#

ahh

teal dome
#

Get a better cpu and remove hdd

stark marlin
#

nothing heavy on games tho

stark marlin
teal dome
#

If it’s for work I think better cpu is better

stark marlin
#

nah its fine

primal linden
#

yeah

teal dome
#

Depends on what work tho

primal linden
#

eh

stark marlin
#

id rather have more storage

primal linden
#

ok

stark marlin
#

its just opening stuff up on google

#

nothing crazy

primal linden
#

oh

stark marlin
#

i have at most 10 tabs open

#

and maybe valorant in the background

#

so

primal linden
#

more ram maybe

manic cloak
#

@stark marlin what games are you playing?

#

And what resolution

stark marlin
#

Um

#

Just valorant and StarCraft lol

#

A little bit of rocket league and overwatch too

mossy venture
stark marlin
mossy venture
#

Wrong link the first time sorry

#

6800xt beats the 3080/4070

#

Let alone the 3060

stark marlin
#

oh yeah that makes a lot of sense

#

tyty

mossy venture
#

Happy to

#

Oh wait

stark marlin
#

i might change the gpu a bit

#

bc i dont need that good

#

so i might stick to 3060

mossy venture
#

That mobo doesn't have wifi in it, you'd need a separate adapter

stark marlin
#

but the rest looks rly good

mossy venture
#

Go for the 6700xt

#

3060 is terrible value

stark marlin
#

oh ok

mossy venture
#

6700xt is some 30% better than the 3060 12gb

#

Or the 6700 is closer (under) to the 3060 pricing, for still 20-25% better perf

stark marlin
#

oh ok

mossy venture
#

Though if you want an nvidia gpu, 3060 ti is $320

stark marlin
#

ohhhh alr

mossy venture
#

Not as good value as 6700xt still, but if you need an nvidia gpu for anything it's the cheapest nvidia gpu worth it new

stark marlin
#

ok

manic cloak
#

Hmmm

manic cloak
primal linden
#

That’s rad

manic cloak
#

Also

#

No need for a harddrive

#

Just get an external m.2 thingy (30$) and an m.2 nvme

plucky timber
#

ehhh

#

Hard drives are still good as cheap storage

viral horizon
#

ssds are better tho for speed right.?

plucky timber
#

It really depends on the use case

#

Well yes they are significantly faster

#

It just depends on what you do on the drive

primal linden
#

does it boost google speed

plucky timber
#

What

primal linden
#

Yes

plucky timber
#

What kind of question is that?

primal linden
#

pls answer

plucky timber
#

Unless you're using a IDE hard drive from the 90s

#

You won't notice a difference

#

But as I said

#

Depends on use case

#

There are games that would heavily benefit from having a ssd

#

Such as Microsoft Flight Simulator

primal linden
#

ah

plucky timber
#

But if it's an older game like Rainbow Six Siege

#

Doesn't matter that much

#

Unless you got a really crappy and fragmented hard drive

#

And for google chrome

#

That's more a combination of your CPU, RAM and internet speed

viral horizon
#

wait so things download faster with ssds?

plucky timber
#

no

#

they don't

viral horizon
#

so what runs faster with ssds

primal linden
#

what affects that

plucky timber
#

actually

#

it depends on your internet speed

primal linden
#

ok

plucky timber
#

If your internet speed is slower than your hard drive then it won't matter how fast your ssd is

plucky timber
#

but here's the thing

#

I got a question

viral horizon
#

yea

plucky timber
#

would you really notice the difference between microsoft word running on a hard drive and microsoft word running on a ssd?

viral horizon
primal linden
#

no

viral horizon
#

i was just curious

#

thats all

plucky timber
#

assuming that the drive is at least 150Mbps and is not fragmented

#

but

#

however

#

Newer AAA titles would benefit from a ssd

#

so that's where you would actually see a difference

viral horizon
plucky timber
#

It really depends on what you do on your drive

#

but generally

#

HDDs are better for storage and archive

viral horizon
#

i mean im going for one tb ssd for my setup

plucky timber
#

SSDs are better if you access the data in your drive offten

primal linden
#

same

plucky timber
#

I usually pair my ssd with at least one hard drive

viral horizon
#

ill upgrade my setup overtime tho and ill prob eventually upgrade to three tb of storage

plucky timber
#

I desperately need a 4TB ssd

#

laptop 💀

#

that or upgrade my nas

viral horizon
#

hey

#

im thinking of selling my laptop to get an extra 75-100 bucks towards my setup goal

#

im on the fence tho since my laptop could be used for work outside of school

teal dome
plucky timber
#

the problem is speed

teal dome
plucky timber
#

the hard drives are connected to my nas

#

and that's where it's being bottlenecked

teal dome
#

What’s nas?

plucky timber
#

network attached storage

#

I end up with like 1-5MBps transfer speed

teal dome
#

So like cloud?

#

I don’t get

plucky timber
#

sort of

#

It's sort of like a local cloud

teal dome
teal dome
plucky timber
#

here's the thing

teal dome
#

Isn’t it Better tho?

viral horizon
#

how much is ethernet btw

plucky timber
#

I know those drives are capable of at lest 100MBps

viral horizon
#

if i could just buy a cable and connect it to my router

#

to my motherboard

teal dome
plucky timber
#

ethernet cables are cheap

viral horizon
#

yeah

teal dome
#

Yeah but you get one from your router

#

It’s small tho but it works

plucky timber
#

a cat 5e or a cat 6 cable should do

viral horizon
#

im gonna go now

#

bye

teal dome
#

Bye

#

Good luck

primal linden
#

bye

teal dome
#

I have about 300bucks saved up

#

I can get another 100 in like a week

primal linden
#

progress is progress

teal dome
#

How much should I save for budget for a pc

#

I’m thinking 1000-1200

plucky timber
#

that sounds reasonable

primal linden
#

true

plucky timber
#

what are you doing on the pc?

teal dome
#

1000 for pc and the extra 200 for monitor and misc components

primal linden
#

that too

#

so a setup

teal dome
#

I get 100 per week

#

So I’ll get it soon

primal linden
#

which one will you do the most

plucky timber
#

college?

teal dome
primal linden
#

ok

plucky timber
#

a gaming laptop might be more suitable for that

teal dome
teal dome
plucky timber
#

If you have to move around a lot

teal dome
#

They’re so bad and heavy

teal dome
primal linden
#

oh

teal dome
#

I can prob buy a iPad or some and I’m chilling

plucky timber
#

alright

primal linden
#

do you have the parts in mind

teal dome
#

Yeah

#

I already researched

#

A lot

#

And too much

plucky timber
#

I'd make a new parts list when you get the money

teal dome
#

I have many builds in mind

primal linden
teal dome
#

I just need help building it since it’s my first

teal dome
plucky timber
#

problem about the market is that prices change a lot

teal dome
#

Since it’s gonna change a lot in 1-2 months

primal linden
#

yeah true

#

by the time you get the money the prices for the parts will be down a lil

#

or up

plucky timber
#

and that's before factoring in new releases

primal linden
#

there might be more value in the future

#

and there will most likely be a reason for you to make a new list

teal dome
#

Also since I’m building pc for first time what do I need? Tools? And anything else?

teal dome
primal linden
#

philip screwdriver

plucky timber
#

pliers

primal linden
#

btw mr plane do you have to buy the screws for a build

plucky timber
#

usually comes with the case

teal dome
#

Why pliers?

plucky timber
#

motherboard standoffs

teal dome
#

I thought you only need the screw driver

primal linden
#

same

plucky timber
#

ahahhaha

#

no

#

you either need pliers

#

or one of these

primal linden
#

WHO

teal dome
#

Oh for the case right?

plucky timber
#

yeah

teal dome
#

If you have a bigger motherboard

primal linden
#

i probably have one lying around

teal dome
#

I saw some videos

plucky timber
#

or a different standoff arrangement

primal linden
#

is it a need

teal dome
#

I can check tho It depends on motherboard and case

teal dome
plucky timber
#

pliers aren't expensive

teal dome
#

Yea

primal linden
#

true

#

ill probably spawn them in

teal dome
teal dome
plucky timber
#

problem is

teal dome
#

?

plucky timber
#

the case might have them in a different arrangement than your motherboard

#

better to be safe

primal linden
#

oh it’s to be safe

teal dome
#

That’s why I’m prob just gonna look up motherboard and case combos online

plucky timber
#

ehhhh

#

ok

teal dome
#

Yeah

#

But I’m prob gonna go phanteks case with 3 fans

#

Idk how to put on fans tho

plucky timber
#

screws

primal linden
#

the phanteks one that comes with 3 fans or the one with 1 fan

teal dome
#

Idk

#

I’ll send hold up

plucky timber
#

I mean

#

you will figure it out when you have the case

#

Building the PC itself is the easy part

#

parts selection is the hard part

primal linden
#

wow

teal dome
#

Yeah

primal linden
#

what about bios and stuff like that

#

or is that just downloads

plucky timber
#

????????

#

what?

primal linden
#

nvm

teal dome
#

It’s this case

plucky timber
#

same as any other case

#

you screw them in

primal linden
#

oh

#

nice

plucky timber
#

you probably have to remove the front panel

#

wait

#

WHAT

teal dome
#

What

plucky timber
#

WHY IS THAT MOTHERBOARD $179

obsidian wigeon
#

the board is supposed to be 129

#

wtf

primal linden
teal dome
#

Yeah

#

It’s sold out on other sites I think

#

Im not buying now anyways

plucky timber
#

💀

#

inflation

teal dome
#

Naw it’s just some random site

primal linden
#

wait can you put micro atx mobo in mid tower

obsidian wigeon
teal dome
#

You can put anything in anything unless the case is super small

primal linden
#

ohhh

#

alr

obsidian wigeon
#

here's one with cheaper board

plucky timber
#

foxy

#

what about this

teal dome
#

I’m thinking if I should get Wi-Fi or not

plucky timber
teal dome
#

Cuz I do have a Ethernet cable

obsidian wigeon
#

ehhh

#

no

#

you don't even need the extra cores for gaming

#

don't forget cooler

#

oh ak400 in there

#

but honestly

#

bleh

teal dome
#

Also I’m not even gonna buy 6950 it’s too expensive

#

Someone recommended but out of budget

primal linden
#

6800 or xt maybe

plucky timber
#

I mean yeah tbh the 13600kf doesn't give you that much more performance for the price difference

obsidian wigeon
#

then 6800xt

teal dome
#

Imma buy the case and maybe cheaper motherboard without Wi-Fi since I do got a Ethernet cable but idk if it will work

#

It works but the cable is from aliexpress

plucky timber
obsidian wigeon
#

i'd use ethernet if you don't need wifi

teal dome
#

Yeah

obsidian wigeon
#

aliexpress ethernet cables are finr

teal dome
#

But idk if I should buy new cable

teal dome
obsidian wigeon
#

or just use your existing one

teal dome
#

It works but idk if it’s giving me more speeds or not cuz my Wi-Fi is that trash

plucky timber
#

Is it your wifi

teal dome
#

My existing one is from aliexpress

teal dome
plucky timber
#

or is it your isp

teal dome
#

I get 1mb download and upload

#

Wi-Fi

obsidian wigeon
#

It will, if your wifi is that sad

teal dome
#

What’s the isp

plucky timber
#

Internet service provider

obsidian wigeon
#

isp is your internet service provider

teal dome
#

Same thing no?

plucky timber
#

no

teal dome
#

If isp is bad Wi-Fi is bad

#

ISP is bad

plucky timber
#

no

teal dome
#

So Wi-Fi bad

obsidian wigeon
#

no

#

internet service provider isn't a device

teal dome
#

I pay 50 and I still get dog internet

plucky timber
#

If your Wi-Fi is bad then that's a router problem

obsidian wigeon
#

it's the company that gives you internet

#

^

plucky timber
#

if your internet is speed is say

teal dome
plucky timber
#

5mbps up and 1mbps down

#

then that's an isp problem

plucky timber
teal dome
#

They did provide us with the router

#

Yeah isp problem then

plucky timber
#

or maybe it's the isp

teal dome
#

Cuz I do have an Ethernet

plucky timber
#

it's usually an isp problem

#

and not a hardware problem

teal dome
#

I can’t wait for fiber it’s coming in October

#

Same price but I get 300mb

#

I don’t need 1gig

plucky timber
#

300mbps?

#

💀

#

for fiber?

teal dome
#

Yeah I mean it’s only 50

#

I don’t wanna pay more

#

I can prob get 500

plucky timber
#

eh that's not bad for 50

teal dome
#

Yeah

#

As long as I can play we’re chilling

#

And I can download stuff in a hour or less then we’re chilling

plucky timber
#

300mbps is blazing fast compared to what you have right now

teal dome
#

Yeah

little osprey
#

Anyone got any specific chip laptop recommendations?

#

I’m starting to want a laptop for school and travel

#

My Chromebook is being more of a pain in the ass than anything

teal dome
little osprey
#

I already have one

teal dome
#

Buy a Mac for school

little osprey
#

I would prefer one

little osprey
teal dome
#

Wdym bro

#

M2 chip is really good

#

Macs are so good

little osprey
#

For the price not really

teal dome
#

Rather have a max than a Chromebook

little osprey
#

And user serviceability is nonexistent

teal dome
#

Tbh idk, what do you wanna use the laptop for it

#

And also budget?

little osprey
#

I’m looking to stay around $500 or below since I don’t plan to do anything intensive

teal dome
little osprey
#

Mainly just running Chrome, maybe the occasional TF2 session and watching stuff

teal dome
#

Idk honestly

#

Good luck tho

teal dome
little osprey
#

I’m waiting on getting my DDR5 first

manic cloak
#

Sigh @little osprey

little osprey
manic cloak
#

Wait no