prices right now are pretty good, if you choose wisely, (amd gpu main factor) but yeah since you already have a pc you can wait for deals
#building-and-recc-chat
fossil cedar
mossy venture
It is the only cpu beyond 13600k and 7700x you should be buying for gaming
burnt stratus
I would still get intel
mossy venture
7950x/7900x and the 3d versions are worse than the 7800x3d for gaming
burnt stratus
Actually
fossil cedar
depends on your total budget tbh, like for the BEST youre looking at roughly 2.2k if you can bring forward, case , psu, storage and maybe cooler
mossy venture
And the 13900k loses to the 7800x3d in gaming by a laughably big margin
burnt stratus
I would get 4090 and 13900k but that’s just personal preference
burnt stratus
And the 13900k loses to the 7800x3d in gaming by a laughably big margin
Seriously?
mossy venture
I would still get intel
Is this going to be another ls720 conversation
burnt stratus
Is this going to be another ls720 conversation
No
fossil cedar
I would get 4090 and 13900k but that’s just personal preference
7800x3d is far better than that lol
mossy venture
Seriously?
Yes.
mossy venture
The 13600k is already within 5% of a 13900k for gaming
fossil cedar
dude
mossy venture
The 7800x3d is atleast 15% better than the 13900k in 95% of titles
I'm not mad, just annoyed
burnt stratus
Lol
burnt stratus
Yeah
mossy venture
It's annoying having the same repetitive conversations over and over like talking to a brick wall
fossil cedar
Seriously?
for being like 200$ less its doing a pretty freaking good job
burnt stratus
It's annoying having the same repetitive conversations over and over like talkin...
That’s u
mossy venture
Now
burnt stratus
for being like 200$ less its doing a pretty freaking good job
Wait is the 7800x3d less or
burnt stratus
Fr?
fossil cedar
Wait is the 7800x3d less or
7800x3d is way cheaper, like 380ish vs like 650
burnt stratus
GYAT
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof
mossy venture
sigh
burnt stratus
Lmao
fossil cedar
well thats not a fair comparison lol theyre not in the same class
burnt stratus
Wdym
fossil cedar
one is 900$ one is 1600$
mossy venture
well thats not a fair comparison lol theyre not in the same class
This
The 4090 is $1500 minimum
burnt stratus
Ok
mossy venture
The xtx is $830-930, more often around the $930 area
mossy venture
And beats the 4080 which is $1050-1100 on the cheaper end, more often 1100
mossy venture
Makes it even worse by comparison lol
burnt stratus
I saw like 20 4090s for 1600 and then I think 10 4080s for msrp also not too long ago
Idk 4080 msrp
mossy venture
The 4080 should be a $950 card max
fossil cedar
Idk 4080 msrp
1200$ 💀
fossil cedar
That’s decent
its crap, 7900xtx beats it for 250$ less
mossy venture
The 3080-3090 gap was around 15% max in gaming, and the price difference was $800
Now, the 4080 and 4090 have a what, 30% difference?
And a price difference of $300-450
It's laughable
burnt stratus
I see
mossy venture
The 3090 is not in the same class as 4080/xtx
primal linden
but is the 300 dollar difference worth it
mossy venture
It loses to the 4070 ti by a bit
fossil cedar
the only 40 series card that makes sense at its current price is the 4090
mossy venture
but is the 300 dollar difference worth it
The 4080 isn't worth it, period
primal linden
wow
fossil cedar
but is the 300 dollar difference worth it
if you consider it to the competition (7900xtx except its actually a lil better), its a 550$ difference
mossy venture
The 4090 isn't worth it, but for people spending a lot on a pc it is the most sensible option
Aside from xtx
Xtx is the only gpu in 40/7000 series I would buy right now
ornate condor
4090 is better for workload
mossy venture
Aside from 7800xt, but thats not on shelves yet
ornate condor
Especially for blender
mossy venture
If 4070 prices drop it might be OK
4060 ti is a laughing stock, that's not even a question
fossil cedar
4090 is better for workload
not all, xtx is actually better in i belive its CAD felix was saying
mossy venture
4090 makes sense if you're doing workstation tasks like blender and gaming
fossil cedar
especially the 16gb one
mossy venture
If you're just gaming, xtx pog
ornate condor
mossy venture
Ok I'm out
ornate condor
Lower perf than 4070 laptop 
heady vapor
when the great gpu and cpu deals come out hit my line so i can purchase
mossy venture
when the great gpu and cpu deals come out hit my line so i can purchase
Theyre random
heady vapor
i cancelled my cpu amazon order 1200k for 55% off
mossy venture
Your best bet for 13600k prices will be after 14th gen launch I'd imagine
primal linden
what about black friday
ornate condor
I'd keep looking for newegg and microcenter bundles if you have Microcenter 
fossil cedar
Your best bet for 13600k prices will be after 14th gen launch I'd imagine
although for gaming atm its a pretty bad choice either way
fossil cedar
I'd keep looking for newegg and microcenter bundles if you have Microcenter <:hm...
usually the newegg bundles are just meh anyway tbh
ornate condor
Yeah but sometimes they're decent.
burnt stratus
Your best bet for 13600k prices will be after 14th gen launch I'd imagine
Got my 12700k the week before 13th gen launched
😭
ornate condor
Like 13900k + Z690 force for 350$ 
fossil cedar
Yeah but sometimes they're decent. <:hmm:885706594564841503>
rarely
fossil cedar
Like 13900k + Z690 force for 350$ <:perfection:816740503038459964>
yeah that was very good
ornate condor
I keeping eye on newegg bundles all the time lol they're usually similar to current market price or just little bit lower . But can catch some decent ones indeed
I remember I got 7700x + X670 + 32gb ram kit for 500$ as well
heady vapor
i brought my pc into micro center and they stole one of my ram sticks
ornate condor
heady vapor
i brought it in for diagnostic test came back and it was missing once i checked when home
bruh
ornate condor
As I always say Microcenter sux
heady vapor
@ornate condor YOU GOTTA HELP A BROTHER OUT next time you see this type of deal
primal linden
wrd
heady vapor
shiiiiiiiiiii
primal linden
theres just a bunch of gigabyte psu bundles with motherboards
heady vapor
primal linden
horrendous
heady vapor
primal linden
pls help us
ornate condor
theres just a bunch of gigabyte psu bundles with motherboards
*gigabyte hazard C4 pro 
ornate condor
I don't think that issue still exist but still it's gigatrash
ornate condor
Newegg can have old stocks
ornate condor
Not bad but not something special
primal linden
aw shucks
atleast i have access to a micro center
5600x3d mobo and ram for 300 is noice
ornate condor
Microcenter had good 13700k bundles sadly it's like 2hours away from me
After gas and sales tax it becomes same price as other retailers 
primal linden
lemme check smth
i hate sales tax
but at the same time other retailers have sales tax too
ornate condor
My state don't have sales tax
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4562430&isPLP=true hmm . That combo ain't that bad
primal linden
lucky
ornate condor
Delaware gang
primal linden
lucky
according to my calculations
wow im not that far
time to call the moving truck
ornate condor
Me with 4L v8 engine car which is 20mpg
primal linden
Me with 4L v8 engine car <:kekw:741678350791081994> which is 20mpg <:pepeF:91926...
damn
ornate condor
Driving to MC not worth it I'm stuck with newegg bundles
primal linden
teleport there
ornate condor
800$ new 4070ti laughing
manic cloak
800$ new 4070ti laughing <:kekw:741678350791081994>
Should I buy the 250$ 6800 tho??
primal linden
woah what
ornate condor
I think it's good price
primal linden
oh
manic cloak
I’m not 100% but let me see
primal linden
ask for benchmarks
manic cloak
ask for benchmarks
Been collecting dust prolly cause it’s out of his system
ornate condor
Replacement fans are for like 30$ so even if it have clicky fans it's not a big deal
manic cloak
True
Only issue I have with it is thermal pads
Don’t get me wrong, chunky cooler n everything
Just idk how long he’s had it stored
ornate condor
You don't beed the pads untill it have real bad vram temps
ornate condor
Yeah compare it with new ones
ornate condor
YouTube
manic cloak
I could finance a 6950xt and get free starfield for 60$ a month
Only if it goes down to 529.99$ again tho
ornate condor
I ordered one for 530 but still not shipped
primal linden
probably one of them september shipped items
ornate condor
You can get used 3080s for 400$ tho which is not bad deal . But again all of them are mined on
mossy venture
You can get used 6800xts for $325-350 and that's a better deal
ornate condor
I would buy used items from ebay instead of marketplace
At least ebay have some coverage
primal linden
well now i journey to ebay
mossy venture
On fbm just use PayPal goods and services to pay
Or meet locally
Or r/hardwareswap is back up
ornate condor
I personally never shop from marketplace. Amazon warehouse and ebay looks more reliable to me
ornate condor
Warehouse have very easy returns
mossy venture
And bad gpu prices
primal linden
where do i buy from amazon warehouse
ornate condor
Go to amazon product page and look for used and sold by amazon ones
ornate condor
ornate condor
Ebay bids are fun
ornate condor
You can won good stuff tho but it slips away nostly lol
manic cloak
You can get used 6800xts for $325-350 and that's a better deal
400$ is best price I’ve seen
primal linden
the bid does have 4 days left tho
ornate condor
the issue is that it doesnt produce video
Can be anything up to vram and gpu chip itself
I won good bid yesterday
primal linden
96 gb
holy
wow now theres motherboard monitor combos
considering getting the broken 6700 xt and then trying to repair it
ornate condor
Anything is repairable except gpu chip itself
Or some component did explode and damaged layers of board
nova apex
anyone have any good prebuild websites?
tribal crater
Was planing on new build during the upcoming holidays, ( waiting on the rog matrix to come out) with the 1400's coming out soonish ( think next Aug or so) should I do the build or just wait?
little osprey
anyone have any good prebuild websites?
I really wouldn’t buy a pre-built from a specific brand or company
I would opt for the best price to performance
fossil cedar
anyone have any good prebuild websites?
Depends on the country
fossil cedar
Was planing on new build during the upcoming holidays, ( waiting on the rog matr...
Idk what the rog matrix is but , a years time is a long time, if you have enough budget why not buy now?
tribal crater
https://rog.asus.com/graphics-cards/graphics-cards/rog-matrix/rog-matrix-rtx4090-p24g-gaming/
Just thinking hate to get a I9 13000 build around it then in about 6 months be a gen behind already
viral horizon
should my motherboard have wireless networking?
nova apex
where would it be best to sell parts? What websites?
vague oracle
considering getting the broken 6700 xt and then trying to repair it
Impossible for 99% of people
If it was easy to fix, he wouldn’t be selling
mossy venture
anyone have any good prebuild websites?
Budget and country?
viral horizon
would it be better to get a motherboard with wireless networking included or just to get a cable. i dont have ethernet, and i use a router, so would a networking card or wireless networking motherboard be more viable?
nova apex
Budget and country?
800 us
mossy venture
https://rog.asus.com/graphics-cards/graphics-cards/rog-matrix/rog-matrix-rtx4090...
7800x3d will likely beat the 14900 in gaming
mossy venture
800 us
At that budget pre builts aren't really an option, tbe cheapest you can really go for pre builts is upwards of 1k, but one minute
I'll try to fond smthn
Find*
Might be an open box build on wegg or smthn
fossil cedar
https://rog.asus.com/graphics-cards/graphics-cards/rog-matrix/rog-matrix-rtx4090...
New cpus should come out in about September, and that's a waste of money, it'll be just as good as an msrp 4090
fossil cedar
should my motherboard have wireless networking?
If you want to use WiFi instead of ethernet then yes you should get one with it
viral horizon
If you want to use WiFi instead of ethernet then yes you should get one with it
alright thank you
mossy venture
800 us
https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-g10dk/p/3D5-000F-02KS1?Item=9SIA7ABJHD4988&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIA7ABJHD4988-_-08292023 this is probably the best you'd get pre built, but one sec, lemme show you what you could do building yourself
@nova apex https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m7RGGP
6700xt is some 30%+ better than 3060
And 12400f is better in gaming than 5700g
viral horizon
btw
if can afford it, should i go with ddr5?
and if i cant, and go with ddr4 instead would be alright?
mossy venture
if can afford it, should i go with ddr5?
Ddr5 is worth it on 13th gen
It's a 10-15% improvement at times
viral horizon
Ddr5 is worth it on 13th gen
if i want to save, is ddr4 ok?
mossy venture
But it depends on the cpu you're going with
viral horizon
i could send you it
mossy venture
Sure
mossy venture
That cpu is ddr5 only.
nova apex
6700xt is some 30%+ better than 3060
i mean i have a 1660 super, psu, a case, and hd, was thinking about selling those and just buying a prebuilt was my plan. but i could sell everything else except the gpu and swap the gpus from the first prebuilt u sent? unless the prebuilt has a better gpu than 1660 super...
mossy venture
And ddr5 isn't super expensive anymore
viral horizon
yeah
mossy venture
i mean i have a 1660 super, psu, a case, and hd, was thinking about selling thos...
It does
A 3060
But I would go for one of the custom builds I sent if you can diy
It's very worth it
Possibly you could keep some of your parts too
Like maybe hdd as extra storage, maybe psu and case
nova apex
i mean the only thing is, i have a ppp made for my original build i had planned... used to be compatible on the website but it says its not anymore...
mossy venture
Pcp?
nova apex
bought it used, so id need to sell it.
viral horizon
heres my setup tho
nova apex
didnt buy off a website is what i mean..
viral horizon
viral horizon
Please dont get a 3060
alright
viral horizon
no i found a 6700 that was cheaper than all the 3060 ti
nova apex
Did you just buy it?
may of last year
nova apex
may of last year
which is how long ive been working on buying everything for the build
viral horizon
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mqhq4M
is it ok if i get rid of the fans
mossy venture
Yeah
viral horizon
i got three fans included with the case i already ordered
mossy venture
Ah alr
viral horizon
ill just move one from the front to the back
nova apex
Ok, so would you rather sell it or reuse it
If its still a good gpu in current days, id say keep, but if its eh then maybe sell
if that makes sense
mossy venture
If its still a good gpu in current days, id say keep, but if its eh then maybe s...
Id say it's getting to the point where it's entry level
So if you can I would replace it if it were my build
Aside from that, what have you already bought?
Psu, case and hdd?
nova apex
Psu, case and hdd?
Case, psu, gpu, hdd
mossy venture
Ok, so one min
mossy venture
Case, psu, gpu, hdd
Gpu, is up to you
You can either keep the 1660 super, or sell it and go for something like 6650xt, 6700, etc
Could buy a 3060 ti or 6700xt used for like $250
Also if you don't need wifi on mobo you can go for b660 pro rs
nova apex
Also if you don't need wifi on mobo you can go for b660 pro rs
got ethernet
viral horizon
yeah
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Eripeax/saved/FZNDwP looks good
You could definitely save some on mobo with a620m pro rs wifi, but I assumed you were going for a blackout look
viral horizon
You could definitely save some on mobo with a620m pro rs wifi, but I assumed you...
yeah
i just want a cheap motherboard tho that can support wifi, but that also have 2 slots of 16 gb of ram each
mossy venture
Then that mobo is a great choice and will be great for an upgrade in the future to an 8000 series x3d cpu
viral horizon
You could definitely save some on mobo with a620m pro rs wifi, but I assumed you...
only problem it doesnt support 32 gb of ram
i wanna use all my ram im buying
viral horizon
it shows on pc part picker that it only supports one 16gb slot
is that wrong or..?
mossy venture
That's wrong yeah
viral horizon
is there any other viable sources that are better?
just in case i wanna check over my parts
im worried that they may have been incorrect too
mossy venture
Nah not really aside from official manufacturer page
Can you show me where you saw that?
viral horizon
mossy venture
viral horizon
im confused
it says it only supports 1 16 gb slot
but 4 memory slot
oh
ok nvm its good
sorry i was being stupid
now i can get a cheaper psu
lets go baby
thanks so much man you the goat
mossy venture
Ofc dude
viral horizon
just curious tho
it says to refer to the motherboard manual..?
oh
wait
nvm
it means as in the manual you prob get when it comes to you
i am so off man 😅
ok here she is
primal linden
i think the cpu cooler comes with paste
mossy venture
Ye it does, the paste you selected is better but it won't really make a difference beyond a few degrees
Also spatula isn't needed at all
primal linden
true
viral horizon
could i use something else to spread it out?
primal linden
maybe
viral horizon
alright
primal linden
i saw someone use a brush thing
viral horizon
that works
i think im gonna go now
total cost is now around 800 dollars
minus the case i just bought for 75 that came with three 140mm fans
mossy venture
could i use something else to spread it out?
Just the cooler
When you put the cooler on and mount it down it'll spread the paste
viral horizon
Just the cooler
i also hear that fans shouldnt be right in front or on top of a cpu cooler
mossy venture
Just tighten the screws in an x pattern and gradually, not doing one at a time and going all the way
mossy venture
i also hear that fans shouldnt be right in front or on top of a cpu cooler
It depends
mossy venture
For your case, I would put two fans at the front of the case as intake
Back of the case as exhaust for one
viral horizon
For your case, I would put two fans at the front of the case as intake
yeah
thats what is was thinking
mossy venture
What case did you get?
viral horizon
Just glad it has a mesh front lol
yea lol
im gonna go now
thank you so much man
i appreiciate it so much
i just wanna already be able to buy everything and get off my crappy laptop
mossy venture
i appreiciate it so much
Happy to help my dude!
Especially with how nice you are, you'd be surprised how many people are asses lol
viral horizon
yeah i dont get how hard manners are
some people are just mean for no reason
but no you dont have to thank me
mossy venture
Word
viral horizon
your good man
anyways i was thinking of selling my laptop for extra money
im already $400/$950
and the laptop could resell for maybe 100-150
mossy venture
What's the specs?
Wait you said you gotta go, if you wanna dm me later about it you're more than welcome to
mossy venture
Prob could get $75+
viral horizon
i kinda wanna keep it tho
just in case for work and stuff
and its more mobile
what do you think?
mossy venture
If you'd need a laptop for school/work it'd be a good idea to keep it
viral horizon
i mean we get chromebooks from school
we can take them home incase of online schooling
but for out of school situations like for example me having to do boyscouts or etc
it would be good
then again a you could do it on a school computer, transfer it to a phone, and then project the phone on a larger screen
well look im gonna go now
catch you later man
little osprey
1080 for $90?
mossy venture
Yes
cyan ravine
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Eripeax/saved/FZNDwP
Change the psu to this my guy. The one in that list is a literal bomb with no safeties
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xLtKHx/apevia-prestige-600-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-atx-rp600w
Last thing you want is a cheap psu frying everything else because it wasn't made with any real redundancy in mind
mossy venture
Seconded, I didn't see that earlier
primal linden
either that or the 75 dollar Thermaltake one
manic cloak
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Eripeax/saved/FZNDwP
Don’t buy the ram
Suspicious seller
6 reviews on their page
viral horizon
Don’t buy the ram
aight
viral horizon
I’ll lyk if I find anything else for you though, just hold off for ram though
aight thank you
manic cloak
Don’t mind the white teamgroup
There’s many things, but that g skill you had selected earlier has 10$ shipping
So if you were to buy the teamgroup, it’s cost the same as the g skill one you have on your list after the 10$ shipping, in my state atleast.
I’m no ram expert but from seeing what you’re doing, I don’t think you’re ram tuning and keeping it stock?
cyan ravine
Don't buy CL36 in general
manic cloak
Don't buy CL36 *in general*
Porque (I’m not a ram expert)
flint sapphire
BUYS CL36 DDR3
cyan ravine
*BUYS CL36 DDR3*
Lord bought a turtle
manic cloak
*BUYS CL36 DDR3*
Ddr2 
runic spruce
Just download the ram online 
flint sapphire
honestly probably will be faster then ddr3 cl36
cyan ravine
@leaden mauve how fast would ddr3-10100MT/s CL36 be
leaden mauve
meth
mossy venture
Porque (I’m not a ram expert)
Below cl36 is gauranteed hynix
Which is better than Samsung
manic cloak
Below cl36 is gauranteed hynix
Ah
300$ aorus 6800
Not mined on
Or should I buy the 250$ mines on red devil 6800?
mossy venture
Depends on how well the miner took care of it
If they know the oc/uc settings they used, and the card looks clean and you can test it/get proof of it working, go for it
manic cloak
If they know the oc/uc settings they used, and the card looks clean and you can ...
Okok, I’m gonna test it when I meet.
little osprey
Yes
Was looking at cards on eBay with Danny was just curious
These were the ones that were $90
Wanna say mining or server cards of some sort
But just realized there’s no point in getting a spare card since I got other projects I need to prioritize
(1660+4500 for GF’s sister)
mossy venture
Was looking at cards on eBay with Danny was just curious
Yeah I've no clue about this
I dont trust it personally
little osprey
I dont trust it personally
There was multiple listing of the exact same card
Different photos and conditions
One of the listings had over 100 sold I think
Mostly positive reviews
I was just curious is all
vague oracle
If it works perfectly, that card will be LOUD af
little osprey
Anyone recommend some ram for 7900x and B650E Taichi ?
little osprey
If it works perfectly, that card will be LOUD af
Probably, it’s interesting none the less
Might be a good card if I ever do something for my brother, however I know he’d prefer a laptop
mossy venture
Anyone recommend some ram for 7900x and B650E Taichi ?
Cheapest 5600-6000mhz cl32 or below kit
Though that mobo is overpriced, and if you're gaming the 7800x3d is a lot better than the 7900x
heady vapor
Can someone explain pcle 4 and 5 to me
is there a version 5 now of it and what does it work for
m.2 ssd have nothing to do with this right
like m.2 is a way to insert ssd into motherboard is pcle the same thing?
mossy venture
is there a version 5 now of it and what does it work for
Pcie is the interface which nvme ssds and gpus connect through, pcie 5.0 has higher bandwidth than 4, and 4 than 3, etc
As of right now there's not really a use for pcie 5.0 for gpus, as the bandwidth for 4.0 is already more than enough for a 4090
jagged ember
Isn’t 3.0 still more than enough for consumer gpus
mossy venture
Gen 5 ssds are fast, but the speed they have is pointless for gaming
mossy venture
Isn’t 3.0 still more than enough for consumer gpus
Yes
Except for 6500xt, 6400, and 6600
jagged ember
Gen 4 ssds also
mossy venture
Because pcie lanes
jagged ember
Ah
heady vapor
interesting
mossy venture
Yeah, gen 3 ssds and gen 5 ssds compared side by side in gaming you won't see a difference 99% of the time
mossy venture
Anyone recommend some ram for 7900x and B650E Taichi ?
heady vapor
so m.2 2 TB ssd with a motherboard with pcle 4 capability will be fine a newer high end card and high end cpu
mossy venture
Afaik every motherboard on am5 and lga1700 has pcie 4.0 atleast
heady vapor
and should i even get ddr5 or stick with ddr4
heady vapor
r9 fury gpu, i5 7600k, 16 gb ddr4 s.skill ripper series ram,
mossy venture
What's the specs?
Mainly what power supply, ram, storage, and case
Those are the most likely parts to be able to reuse them
@heady vapor
mossy venture
Ohh alright
heady vapor
do you think i’d be able to upgrade
with my current build without problems
looking to add liquid cpu cooler, better cpu and Gpu
mossy venture
I'd say yeah, pcs good enough you can do it gradually instead of all at once
heady vapor
Awesome
Can you recommend me a cpu and cpu cooler and gpu that would be compatible and also I appreciate your help man
mossy venture
Ok so I'd say cpu mobo and ram I'd do at the same time with the 7600+a620m pro rs wifi+ 32gb ddr5
mossy venture
Can you recommend me a cpu and cpu cooler and gpu that would be compatible and a...
If you're fine with it, the cpu cooler you have is great
That would be a great cooler for a 7600/12600k, you'd just have to get a mounting bracket for it
If you really want an aio though, thermalright frozen notte 240 is what you'd want
It's cheap but good quality
The case isn't great, I would replace that later on though
I'd say order of upgrades should be gpu and possibly psu at the same time, then cpu mobo and ram, then case
Could add a better sdd too, m450 1tb is $28
Actually the psu you have is decent, I believe it's B tier which is fine for most gpus
I'd say overall depending on what you want to spend, something along these lines https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yhMvn6
Could go cheaper or more expensive too, just depends
fossil cedar
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/mrvino/saved/#view=v2psK8
Only things I'd reuse are cpu cooler depending on if you can get updated mounting hardware from scythe and what cpu you go with, and the psu and monitor, and the ssd but I'd get a new boot 1tb nvme
burnt stratus
nvm
shut rampart
Can I buy this and use it to its full potential for a 6700 xt
fossil cedar
I'd say actively bad price
mossy venture
Or for a good bit less you can get a same specced monitor
heady vapor
Yo is i5 7600k better or a i7 4790k
paper summit
Yo is i5 7600k better or a i7 4790k
For what
And why lol
Do you already have a motherboard for either one
To answer your question tho 7600k is a little better depending on the scenario
But it doesn't have hyperthreading
heady vapor
For gaming
and overall good smooth fps
i have the 7600k on my current mobo but my lil bro offered the i7 4790k
but i’m assuming the i7 will have compatibility issues
Also he gave me 1070 ti so ima swap that in taking my r9 fury out
so will the i5 7600k bottleneck the 1070 ti?
tawdry lance
Will the 13600k against a 13400 make that much of a difference for a server that is mainly just going to be used for modded minecraft or will it just be producing more heat due to the larger tdp?
mossy venture
Will the 13600k against a 13400 make that much of a difference for a server that...
I mean the multi core difference is noticeably, but for your use case it likely will not matter
paper summit
Will the 13600k against a 13400 make that much of a difference for a server that...
13400 will output less heat due to lower power consumption but make sure you schedule it to use the pcores
so cores 0-5
or threads 0-11
earnest olive
you can make a 13600K more efficient than a 13400 if power draw is your main concern
the 13600K has significant advantages in both single and multicore
but the 13400 should be more than good enough
earnest olive
13600K offers undervolting and control over clock speeds so that's how it can be more power efficient
it is also likely (but not guaranteed) to be a better bin than 13400
so you could achieve 13400 performance at lower power target
or higher performance at same power target
you can also run faster memory with the 13600K but that also probably doesn't matter very much for the use case
tawdry lance
So, for modded minecraft server 13400 is fine. Does faster memory help or is it more about capacity?
strong raft
As for cpu choice, if we're talking no combo deal then I'll think the 13500 looks good since it's 14 total cores like 13600(k) but within $30ish of 13400.
little osprey
I really wanna get it but have no reason to
Since I have no platforms I could easily do on ITX
tawdry lance
I'd go for 5600-6000mhz cl32 or lower
I think you speced a ddr4 board for the recommended build. I think c16 3200 was in the pcpartpicker
strong raft
That would be fine too.
mossy venture
I think you speced a ddr4 board for the recommended build. I think c16 3200 was...
Ah mb, then yeah that's the ram you'd want
pseudo pollen
As for cpu choice, if we're talking no combo deal then I'll think the 13500 look...
It used to be sub 200, and I think with black friday coming up it'll hit that mark again.
tawdry lance
Is a 13500 more like a 13400 with more e cores or just a lower clocked and locked 13600k?
pseudo pollen
honestly what a 13600k is is just a 13400 with extra cores and higher clocks iirc
there's also a 13600, so I'm not sure
shut rampart
Sooo any monitor in micro center worth it? For a 6700 xt
mossy venture
Sooo any monitor in micro center worth it? For a 6700 xt
Can you send us some options within your budget?
shut rampart
$100 - $200
Per monitor
Looking to pick up two
Same size / monitor but idk
Setup if u want
Or $400 upgrade on pc part
mossy venture
I'm very confused on this monitors stand or if that even is a stand but this is the 1080p option I'd go for
https://www.microcenter.com/product/669481/hyperx-armada-245-full-hd-(1920-x-1080)-240hz-gaming-monitor
shut rampart
Tho you guys said monitor before
mossy venture
But im still looking
shut rampart
Tf is that stand
mossy venture
I'd go for this personally, $10 over https://www.microcenter.com/product/666008/msi-g271cqp-e2-27-2k-wqhd-(2560-x-1440)-170hz-curved-screen-monitor
And if you're buying multiple monitors you don't have to buy the same monitor
You can buy one of those for your main one and different ones for any after that
shut rampart
Yeah but I just like them matched
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/IcyRed/saved/#view=VBjt3C
Link doesn't work btw
Wait nvm
Was my fault
shut rampart
But u guys said something about monitor and getting the full potential
mossy venture
Those monitors are fine too, tbh if you would be willing I'd keep those two ad use them as two side monitors with the other one inbetween
Itd look symmetrical that way
And then save the other $200 for future upgrades on pc
shut rampart
Alright so one more monitor for me I guess and I will be needing a stand too
For it
mossy venture
I'd go for 32gb ram, could get the same kit in there or sell that one and get a 32gb kit
mossy venture
Alright so one more monitor for me I guess and I will be needing a stand too
I'd get the 1440p monitor
A 6700xt likely won't push 240 fps in a lot of games anyways, unless you play a lot of cpu focused games
And imo 1440p is a nicer upgrade over 240hz
shut rampart
Alright hm so ram I guess
mossy venture
I'd go for this personally, $10 over https://www.microcenter.com/product/666008/...
This one
shut rampart
Hmm I have not tried a curve one yet but idk I like it in one line
mossy venture
Ram isn't super necessary, 16gb is still fine for most games
mossy venture
Hmm I have not tried a curve one yet but idk I like it in one line
G27q is $220 on newegg or Amazon I think
shut rampart
Well it’s a gaming / streaming / editing pc
shut rampart
Alright let’s fine me 32gb then
mossy venture
This is pretty good https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qcxRsY/lg-27gn800-b-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-27gn800-b
mossy venture
Alright let’s fine me 32gb then
Cheapest 3600c18 kit will be fine
shut rampart
Well idk if my desk can fit 3 monitors
mossy venture
mossy venture
Well idk if my desk can fit 3 monitors
Hm
shut rampart
Mind the cable I need to fix that soon ordering some cable packs etc
mossy venture
What I did when I needed more desk room was get a drawer about as tall as my desk (a stack of drawers? My brain cannot think of the word) area but I understand not wanting to do that
shut rampart
Yeah but my pc is on top
mossy venture
I just needed the drawers anyways lol
mossy venture
Yeah I would keep pc on desk
Idk, up to you
Could get two of those LG monitors I linked, or one and keep either one or both of the monitors you have
wild peak
Is it a good time to build a pc?
mossy venture
Is it a good time to build a pc?
depends on budget
manic cloak
And resolution ^
mossy venture
meh not really
wild peak
depends on budget
12-1300
mossy venture
I do need a new monitor but that’s a purchase for a different time
do you care about asthetics?
is there anything specific you're looking for?
quick idea https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TYGjyg
fossil cedar
Nice build bacca
primal linden
agreed
wild peak
do you care about asthetics?
Sorry was in school, and not really
mossy venture
opinions on that list then?
mossy venture
you could go a bit cheaper on cpu and gpu for a monitor upgrade
wild peak
It’s fine, I don’t think it’s necessary
I can afford both, just don’t want to spend all of it at once
mossy venture
If you decide you want to, I'd do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bsbkdH
wild peak
If you decide you want to, I'd do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bsbkdH
Ok thank you
Definitely will consider
The monitor I mean, I think for now I’m just going to get a pc
Thank you for all your help
spare vale
What % of money should you spend on your GPU when you want to play and develop games.
plucky timber
That's a difficult question
Actually not really tbh
But I wouldn't spend all the money on the GPU
If you're 3D modelling and rendering
You would probably need a decent amount of ram and a decent CPU as well
So pretty much same as any other pc
Balance out the parts based on your budget
And your needs
spare vale
Alright, thank you.
mossy venture
What % of money should you spend on your GPU when you want to play and develop g...
depends on the budget
not really a set amount or percent
if you gave us a budget for the whole build and your country we could make you a list though
and some other info like personal preferneces, storage needs, etc
spare vale
if you gave us a budget for the whole build and your country we could make you a...
~2000$ (For the PC. I'll buy everything else separately.) USA(country), for an aesthetic, I'd opt for black, but if it comes at the cost of performance I'd rather not. Storage needs? I haven't thought about that, maybe 2 TB?
mossy venture
~2000$ (For the PC. I'll buy everything else separately.) USA(country), for an a...
how intensive is the game dev you do?
and do you have a microcenter near you?
spare vale
how intensive is the game dev you do?
Simple 3D modeling, the programming isn't very intensive since I'm a beginner in terms of coding, and sadly, I don't have a microcenter
mossy venture
oh and would an amd gpu mess with any of the work you do?
ah 3d modeling that would matter
spare vale
oh and would an amd gpu mess with any of the work you do?
No it wouldn't; You've corrected me? I imagine you have more expertise with computers than I ever will
spare vale
Okay, thank you very much.
mossy venture
Okay, thank you very much.
would 64gb be used in your case?
spare vale
would 64gb be used in your case?
Do you mean, will it fit in the case? Or is that enough for whatever I'm doing?
If it's the latter I believe that's more than enough lol.
mossy venture
No it wouldn't; You've corrected me? I imagine you have more expertise with comp...
It could matter a bit with 3d modeling potentially but I also don't really know your work loads, so I'd possibly wait for another opinion on that
spare vale
It could matter a bit with 3d modeling potentially but I also don't really know ...
I understand. I had an old computer that didn't even have a GPU, it ran blender decently, I imagine anything greater than 2 sticks of 8 GB will be sufficient.
How much is 64 relative to 32?
mossy venture
Id go with this, if AMD gpu won't be an issue and 64gb would be beneficial
sorry forgot to link it lol
spare vale
Okay, thank you.
spare vale
@mossy venture what's your favorite keyboard?
mossy venture
I like the keychron k4, but a few factors go into choosing keyboard
I dont know much about keyboards aside from keychron is great, and that's not just from personal experience they're just one of the best and closest to custom you can get
I'd ask over in #peripherals-and-displays
little osprey
I dont know much about keyboards aside from keychron is great, and that's not ju...
Kbdfans keyboards are good
Akko, gmk or anything like that for keycaps are good, but if you don't want to spend 50$ for keycaps, just go a aliexpress bootleg keycaps
spare vale
I'd ask over in <#500102713137430529>
Okay, thank you.
cyan ravine
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RCjJ89
Beautiful
little osprey
Made it worse somehow
cyan ravine
ya it ain't a pc unless the whole back is a rats nest
plucky timber
ahahhahaha
That was my PC for a while
It's a case issue
Mid towers don't have much space for cables unfortunately
manic cloak
^
imagine mATX and ITX tho..
ngl an itx would be cool
just I want one to fit a 6950xt
plucky timber
In that case
You want minimum cable length
Would be best to have custom cables
And a modular psu
lone flame
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RCjJ89
damn, i hope i can own an xtx one day
fossil cedar
just I want one to fit a 6950xt
Most good itx cases can
Cooler master nr200(p)
Ssupd meshilicous/meshroom
Hyte revolt 3
Phahteks p200a
Corsair 2000d airflow
all fit the asrock gaming 6950
manic cloak
Ngl i might get an itx build
Though isn’t it hotter
Or is cooler cause of how little space
primal linden
wait itx is harder to cool?
primal linden
aw@man
well atleast it fits on the desk
and that’s it
i mean they’re cuter too but
manic cloak
Nr200p would need the top 2 fans to be intake for radiator, bottom as exhaust?
fossil cedar
Nr200p would need the top 2 fans to be intake for radiator, bottom as exhaust?
Well nr200p is kinda dumb because it's nr200 but with optional glass side panel but you'd wanna use the mesh so you can do side and bottom intake, top back exhaust
manic cloak
Well nr200p is kinda dumb because it's nr200 but with optional glass side panel ...
Radiator would have to be on the bottom?
fossil cedar
You generally air cool entire nr200 since you can fit a dual tower cooler
Ssupd meshilicous superiority
manic cloak
Ah
Pa120 se doesn’t have clearance dadly
Sadly*
155mm for max in nr200p, if you wanted ram clearance for pa120se it’d be 159mm
cyan ravine
Get lp ram
Or rather
Pick a nicer case lol
To me the NR200P is like a D31/D30 but less practical
fossil cedar
155mm for max in nr200p, if you wanted ram clearance for pa120se it’d be 159mm
Ssupd meshilicous, ssupd meshilicous
cyan ravine
Smol but like, you want space to do stuff, nr200p don't have that
Meshilicious is meh-ilicious
fossil cedar
Meshilicious is meh-ilicious
I'll fight u
cyan ravine
Ur on the larger side
fossil cedar
And only available on ssupd site methinks
cyan ravine
mATX is the perfect harmony of big and little
fossil cedar
Ur on the larger side
Nuh uh
cyan ravine
earnest olive
Bruv doesn't even remember meshroom s exists now and it's better
does it come in orange?
cyan ravine
does it come in orange?
Is there an LTT version?
vague oracle
fractal terra
little osprey
Mid towers don't have much space for cables unfortunately
I love everything else about the G300A except the lack of cable room
little osprey
bro 😭
Gigabyte was stupid and put the only two RGB and fan headers I get the furthest away from each other they could possibly be
plucky timber
I love everything else about the G300A except the lack of cable room
Fr
I used to have to squeeze the back panel back on
little osprey
It’s a pretty solid case for $50-$60
little osprey
I used to have to squeeze the back panel back on
I got the more heavy cables nailed down
plucky timber
You can have a really good case
little osprey
I’m gonna see what I can do with the daisy chain
plucky timber
But still suffer the same issues
As any other matx
I remember shoving all the cables into the PSU shroud area
little osprey
Exactly what I did
plucky timber
hours of cable management
And it would still looks like a rat's nest from the back
little osprey
I spent six hours trying to make it look semi okay…
plucky timber
💀
manic cloak
It’s a pretty solid case for $50-$60
903 max better tbh
mossy venture
903 max better tbh
A lot uglier though
903 max and g300a would have similar performance, once adding a $12 pack of c12c's to the g300a
903 max is also $75
G300a is $50+ $12 for fans
At $75 there's better options
manic cloak
Wdym 903 max is ugly?
It’s pretty.
Also 75$ is the best rn, cheaper than a 360a and a 216.
fossil cedar
Looks are subjective, I'm not a huge fan of it either personally
mossy venture
manic cloak
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qwQKBL
Basic black 903 is 65$..? 😭
Idk what point your trying to prove with price
The 903 max is perfect for 75$
And if you live near an mc, the 25$ off coupon works for it
fossil cedar
Focus 2 is $80
Personally don't think it's worth that much since no psu shroud
manic cloak
Plus you pay shipping 👁️👁️
fossil cedar
Plus you pay shipping 👁️👁️
Nope 2 available for 80 incl shipping
manic cloak
Nope 2 available for 80 incl shipping
Oh ik that, it’s 69.99 before shipping, just rgb is 79.99 before
fossil cedar
Oh ik that, it’s 69.99 before shipping, just rgb is 79.99 before
I mean 3 c12c rgb fans are 15$ and deff better than the stock fractals and you get the black fractals too
And they're decent
manic cloak
Same with 903 base, but it comes with 3 140mm blacks.
You could move the back fan to the front, buy a 120mm pack or just one and throw it on the back. If you buy the pack, you can throw them on top
fossil cedar
now thats v nice
primal linden
true
manic cloak
Did the amd reference card originally come in the power color box?
Cause some guy is trying to make me believe that.
fossil cedar
Cause some guy is trying to make me believe that.
Amd board partners also make reference cards so yes
manic cloak
So yes or no..?
mossy venture
Oh wait patos right
little osprey
Did you mean to link smthn else?
Yeah sorry phone being slow
This was the other one I was looking at
I’m throwing the towel with the six fan daisy chain
I’m gonna find a fan splitter
Or one of those super small fan hubs
mossy venture
I think the first one is a bit better
fossil cedar
So yes or no..?
The guy telling you that is correct
primal linden
are theese good https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4zkH99/thermalright-tl-s12-x3-476-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-tl-s12-x3
mossy venture
are theese good https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4zkH99/thermalright-tl-s12-x3-4...
I'd get these instead https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JmfnTW/thermalright-tl-c12c-6617-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-tl-c12c-x3-d6
pseudo pollen
💀
pseudo pollen
processor type: 3
pseudo pollen
I wanted to see if I could fix it, then I realized it's a couple hundred miles from me
pseudo pollen
battery doesn't hold a charge, but does it work
look at the bottom bezel of this https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1050820655823598
primal linden
it looks ttraumatizded
primal linden
true
pseudo pollen
this is actually a pretty good deal imo
fossil cedar
yeah i know
C12c have a full rgb option if you want that
mossy venture
C12c have a full rgb option if you want that
It's oos sadly
primal linden
10/10 would buy
mossy venture
The white ones aren't
pseudo pollen
I mean for $13
It's at least 300 miles away from me
primal linden
The white ones aren't
wouldnt look good with a g300a would it
pseudo pollen
wii u bundle
*regular wii
fossil cedar
It's oos sadly
White ones are in
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XYPQzy/thermalright-tl-c12c-s-6617-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-tl-c12cw-s-x3-d6
fossil cedar
Oh right
primal linden
sad
fossil cedar
Yeye
pseudo pollen
mossy venture
That's ntb
primal linden
ntb=?
pseudo pollen
not too bad
mossy venture
They were $12 for a good while, but $18 for them is decent still
Not bad
Or not too bad
primal linden
might get tohose
pseudo pollen
bed
manic cloak
Bull crap alert
primal linden
what shop is that
manic cloak
Microcenter
pseudo pollen
4070 for $540 isn't that bad
especially if you want more vram compared to the 3080
although the 3080 is going for closer to $400 used
pseudo pollen
I'd do this, but idk if you're on a strict budget or not https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gp4P34
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7jCCbL
I'd say 8.5/10
That psu is incredibly overkill
pseudo pollen
but it's only $10 more
primal linden
wait what
mossy venture
The Thermaltake has a rebate
So it's $75 after it
Otherwise I'd get the $80 cxm or $90 gf3 a3 750w
6700xt, imo is a worthwhile step up from 6700 if it fits in your budget
pseudo pollen
it was using amazon pricing for some reason
primal linden
prolly gonna make it a 6700 xt
mossy venture
Would you be willing to spend $40 more on monitor?
mossy venture
Could go for this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qcxRsY/lg-27gn800-b-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-27gn800-b
primal linden
oh yeah
mossy venture
Which is a nice step up
primal linden
im just trying to make it under 1000 without tax
im buying a desk but exclude that rn
mossy venture
mossy venture
Could save a tiny bit with this lol https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Wfn9TW/thermalright-assassin-x-refined-se-argb-v2-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120r-se-v2-d6
Basically the same thing and same price just get whichever you want