building-and-recc-chat

[potent portal]

Some more details will help us help you.
No response to power button at all? Powers on but doesn't post? Post but no boot?

[frigid night]

has a connector that plugs into USB header on mobo. The connector ports I think are proprietary as well.

[potent portal]

Yep crumpled $20

Useful in some situations but good luck getting it into a vending machine

[mortal rampart]

Doesn't power on at all

All I did was put in a new mb and cpu

[potent portal]

Ah. Check your power button wire is on the right pins.

I've switched power and reset a couple times lol

[mortal rampart]

I don't think so

Did it exactly like this

[potent portal]

Doesn't hurt to double check

Make sure the PSU is on too

[mortal rampart]

Yes it's on

[potent portal]

24 pin seated completely in?

You shouldn't be able to see any of the underside at all, it would be totally flush against the header

[frigid night]

If you mobo has 2 CPU headers, ya may have put the cable into the wrong one?

[mortal rampart]

It's an asrock b450 steel legend

[potent portal]

Single 8 pin for the CPU then

[mortal rampart]

Yeah it's in there

[potent portal]

The only thing I can really recommend is going through all the cables one by one, unplug and replug, until you find the one that's loose

If you have a modular PSU then that goes for the PSU ends too

[mortal rampart]

Okay bet

Thanks

[frigid night]

Just cuz.. is your power strip turned on?

[potent portal]

You can also try touching the power button pins directly with something metal. Touching them together should turn it on.

[neon condor]

yupp

[mortal rampart]

I got it on

It booted into windows earlier

But now is only booting into the bios

[zenith cargo]

will a ryzen 5 5600x3d handle my 6900xt better than a R7 5800x in 1080p?

[potent portal]

Generally yes

[zenith cargo]

or should I wait a f ton for someone to sell their 5800x3d at sub 280

[tawny fiber]

With mlid code I was seeing it get below 200

If microcenter is near I woul just run out and get the 5600x3d

[zenith cargo]

?

[fossil cedar]

If you don't have an am4 motherboard already I'd just go with ryzen 7000 since it's becoming quite cheap, like a 7600, also 5600x3d being a micro center exclusive means you have to go out of your way to drive to one, plus am5 has a better upgrade path

[tawny fiber]

if used on a 5600x3d comes below 200

[obsidian wolf]

I been noticing flickering and already degradement in the quality of the components what should be a quick solution to continue having them run on a more decently rather than letting them just loose their full quality

[little osprey]

I kinda wanted a good b650 mbd but idk which one to choose, does anyone have any rec?

[little osprey]

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/kyDGBj

opinions

[viral horizon]

hey do you know where i could find a budget case that can fit 2 external 3 internal? (fans are 120 mm)

[serene onyx]

Guys, is it possible to make a decent pc for 500$

[mossy venture]

Fractal design focus 2 I think is $54

Thst might work

[mossy venture]

Yeah just give me a min

[little osprey]

Will it need wifi and is it okay to get used parts?

And what specifically will the rig be used for?

[serene onyx]

Yes wifi

[serene onyx]

Just playing games

Like fortnite

R6

The basic stuff

[viral horizon]

alright thank you

[mossy venture]

If you can go over budget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VCmYPX

I'll make a diff list for cheaper

This is the cheapest I'd go new https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3PxXmr

[viral horizon]

could i got two external two internal? the case only supports two internal and two external

[mossy venture]

?

[cyan ravine]

Man why is the 6600 still at a stagnant 210

I'd just go for the 570 list tbh @serene onyx

The downgrades aren't worth the $40 savings

[serene onyx]

Thanks

[viral horizon]

i was planning on three internal and two external because i was getting a five pack of fans

[serene onyx]

Thank yall so much

[cyan ravine]

Good lists btw

[viral horizon]

im just curious if two internal and two external would still work

i could show you my build

[cyan ravine]

@viral horizon hdd's?

[mossy venture]

I mean I would just do them all internal

There's no reason not to

[cyan ravine]

Oh fans

[mossy venture]

Just do two front as intakes, one back and two top as exhausts

[cyan ravine]

Yeah just do all 5 inside

[mossy venture]

Possibly only one top depending on if aio or heatsink

[viral horizon]

oh ok

i thought internal brought air inside and external pushed air out

[cyan ravine]

Wait

You mean intake and outlet

[viral horizon]

yeah

[mossy venture]

Felix how did I know it was you purely by the techie color role and the name

[viral horizon]

i was planning on three intake fans

[cyan ravine]

Ah, yeah, 3 intake 2 exhaust

[viral horizon]

and two exhaust

all 120 mm

[cyan ravine]

I'm part of the furniture confirmed

[mossy venture]

Yeah it sucks

[cyan ravine]

@viral horizon yeah that would be fine

Some cases are ideal with 3 intake 1 exhaust even

[mossy venture]

Losing like 20-25% performance for a $30 difference

[little osprey]

I'm going with 6 intake 1 exhaust

Idk how good that is

[viral horizon]

so any cases then that can support 5 fans? (3 intake 2 exhaust all 120 mm)?

[mossy venture]

What case

[cyan ravine]

I'd do 3 intake bottom 3 exhaust top on o11

[mossy venture]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

Any normal case tbh

[mossy venture]

Focus 2, g300a, g360a, p400a, 4000d airflow, basically any case with a mesh front

[little osprey]

I was thinking of the top for the water cooler

[mossy venture]

Focus 2 is the cheapest good quality case at the moment

[little osprey]

O11d evo

[mossy venture]

And or g300a

[viral horizon]

yeah

[mossy venture]

This one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6bbTwP/fractal-design-focus-2-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-02

[cyan ravine]

It's how they designed it to work

[viral horizon]

just curious too

[little osprey]

I have it like this rn

I'm buying the cooler next week or so

[mossy venture]

I think o11d likes positive airflow

So yeah its good

[viral horizon]

just incase that doesnt work, what would work for 120 mm? the pc part picker uses inches no?

[mossy venture]

Hm?

Wdym

[little osprey]

Mm are standart for fans

[viral horizon]

when i look at the size of the drive bays

[little osprey]

Someone using inches on fans should honestly seek help

[mossy venture]

Ahh you need an hdd bay ok

How many drives are you going to have?

[viral horizon]

anything that can support 3 intake and 2 exhaust

120 mm

[mossy venture]

I'm confused

Are we talking about fans or hard drives or both

[viral horizon]

fans

[mossy venture]

Ok

Then what does the drive bay matter?

[viral horizon]

idk

i thought thats where you put the fans

[mossy venture]

Nah, they go right on the front and top of the case

Like, against the mesh

[mossy venture]

Ie:

[viral horizon]

oh ok

[little osprey]

[viral horizon]

sorry im just stupid

[mossy venture]

No dude you're good

Better to ask than not

[little osprey]

Hi just stupid, I'm lopes

Aight sorry

[viral horizon]

ur good

[little osprey]

Imma off self after that one

[mossy venture]

I'd rather make sure you're buying something that works for you than you not ask a question about it

[viral horizon]

alright then ill use the fractal design focus 2

looks good

[mossy venture]

Also do you already own the fans?

[viral horizon]

just to make sure

no

[mossy venture]

Any idea what fans you're buying?

[viral horizon]

artic p12 five pack 120mm

[mossy venture]

Good choice

Great fans I've used a few of those and a few p14s

[little osprey]

I'm rather confused with my lian li fans ngl

[viral horizon]

alright

so just to make sure

for exhaust it goes on the top and back

and for the intake it goes on top and front?

[little osprey]

they don't appear here

[mossy venture]

Yes, and if you have an air cooler (cpu heatsink) don't put one in front of it on the top

Only behind it towards the back of the case

You might not even use all 5

[viral horizon]

yeah

just to finalize things up

[mossy venture]

You could also get a g360a for $90 and just buy one separate fan as well

Or a dozen other cases that come with fans for less

[viral horizon]

cpu coolers (air) should go behind it on the back near the back of the case

and exhaust goes in the back and top

and intake goes on front and top

[mossy venture]

The cooler should not have a fan above it in front of it

One sec

I'll show a picture of what I mean

[viral horizon]

alright

[mossy venture]

Alright it might be hard to see but here

[little osprey]

could you check the build I'm thinking of doing?

[mossy venture]

I've got an all in one cooler, but pretend that's a heatsink

Yeah one sec gancalo

[little osprey]

oki ty

[mossy venture]

You don't want a fan on the right side of the picture

Only the two on the left side where I have them

[viral horizon]

so never have a fan for intake or exhaust go ontop of in front of a cpu cooler

[mossy venture]

Yes, unless you're liquid cooling your cpu

[viral horizon]

alright

and do you mean directly in front or on top

[mossy venture]

I could put another as exhaust on top if I wanted to since it wouldn't be pulling air away from the cpu cooler fan

In the picture I sent you see where the mesh is on top?

Don't put one there

[viral horizon]

alright

[mossy venture]

Kk what's up?

[viral horizon]

im a little confused but i think i got it

[mossy venture]

Got a list made already?

[viral horizon]

thank you

[little osprey]

this right here

[mossy venture]

Yeah im not the best at explaining some things lol

[little osprey]

yeaaah

[mossy venture]

Any questions feel free to ask again here or dm me

[little osprey]

I got some doubts about the mbd I chose, cuz the one I have right now I can't have the rainbow effect I wanted and idk good mbds nowadays

[mossy venture]

Mobo you can go either way, I put msi b650a wifi in there but won't really change much either way https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/MF8nmr

The ram, ryzen 7000 doesn't like over 6000mhz very often

You don't have to go with that exact kit, there's better options but I figured you wanted it to be RGB

Non rgb there's better kits for cheaper

[little osprey]

yeah, now I care a bit more about the rgb, but it's alright

[mossy venture]

Aio is a great choice, cpus a great choice

[little osprey]

I thought I couldn't use micro atx that's why I chose atx

[mossy venture]

This is about as good as you can get for ryzen 7000 without breaking the bank
https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5

And this is as good as the corsair RGB kit for decent bit less https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/XsqPxr/gskill-ripjaws-s5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl36-memory-f5-6000j3636f16gx2-rs5k

Oh wait

[little osprey]

I like the aesthetics of both ngl

[mossy venture]

Here's rgb 6000c36 for 112 https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/qLt9TW/corsair-vengeance-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl36-memory-cmh32gx5m2d6000z36k

That's pretty nice

[little osprey]

wait

weren't those the ones you put in the build

why are they showing different prices

[mossy venture]

I thought so but for some reason they're $10 cheaper now lol

Odd

[little osprey]

hmmm

they are 2 different rams now that I see by the part number

must be nearly the same thing

but yeah, thanks appreciated the help

Okay so maybe I didn't think this through

The G300A has a weird little swoop near the bottom fan so the air isn't going directly to the basement of the case

However I am unable to set the figure I just bought on a flat surface now because of that

[viral horizon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Eripeax/saved/FZNDwP ok this is my final build ( i already have a monitor, keyboard, and mouse)

[cyan ravine]

Change that psu

Also you can use a cheaper cooler

That psu needs changing 1000%

Will not work with that pc, not ever

[viral horizon]

wait whats a psu

[fossil cedar]

power supply unit

[viral horizon]

a power supply?

oh

wait so which power supply should i use then?

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YNT8Fg

Do this

[viral horizon]

alright

thank you

[cyan ravine]

Actually, you don't even need the p12s afaik

[viral horizon]

?

[cyan ravine]

The pop air should come with 4 already if I'm not mistaken

No point in extra

[viral horizon]

oh

3 internal 1 exhuast then?

[cyan ravine]

Ye by default

[viral horizon]

alright then

[cyan ravine]

Double check that

But I'm pretty sure cos the rgb one does

[viral horizon]

theres 3 120mm fans

[cyan ravine]

That's fine

More than enough

[viral horizon]

so then two intake one exhaust

is that good or bad

[cyan ravine]

Ye

It's fine

More ≠ better

[viral horizon]

i might just buy one or two extra

maybe three

just to be safe

[cyan ravine]

If you want

Get thermalright c12c's

Actually lemme tidy the list up rq

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9sBwtn

There we go

You could do a white build for basically the same price if that interests you

[viral horizon]

id rather do a black build

but still thanks bro

so to finish up

two exhaust

four internal

bet

thanks bro

you have a nice day

[cyan ravine]

Np

[steady glacier]

Before I buy another monitor and a desk mount— is there any way to tell if my desk will be able to hold the weight of the dual monitor mount?

[empty pollen]

by looking at your desk specs maybe? they list the maximum supported weight and check the weight of the mount as well

if your desk dont have any specs then its just guesstimations on your own

[viral horizon]

ik this sounds stupid but

although i was able to procure some keyboards for free

the motherboards ive found that are compatible with my build cant use usb a

so

as a backup

couldnt i use my laptops keyboard to type?

just connect it to the gaming pc

[mossy venture]

every single motherboard has usb A

wdym?

[viral horizon]

i didnt know

i looked at the info on my motherboard

it said usb c and usb b

[mossy venture]

nah you're good

[steady glacier]

But do you think that this would mean the weight spread out across the desk or in one spot, like a desk mount

[viral horizon]

but um this is my motherboard tho

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dq4Zxr/asrock-b650m-hdvm2-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-hdvm2

idk im on a budget

it fits the two sticks of 16 ram i got and it seems compatible with everything else

[little osprey]

You have the USB A there

[mossy venture]

that's a picture of two of the ports on that mobo

though jsyk that mobo doesn't come with wifi

[little osprey]

That was even easier nvm

[mossy venture]

personally I'd just get this, unless you're using ethernet https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kvWJ7P/asrock-a620m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-a620m-pro-rs-wifi

[steady glacier]

Oh I have that motherboard, what’s the question?

[mossy venture]

actually no

this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs-wifi

better price than either that a620 or the other b650

@viral horizon

[little osprey]

Got them lgbt lights

[viral horizon]

alright bet thanks man

[worn pagoda]

i commited a mistake and bought my 13th gen cpu with a ddr4 motherboard, my ram is a cl16 3200mhz 2x8gb kit, i want to upgrade my ram to something better for warzone... can someone recommend me a good kit?

[mossy venture]

you would have to get a new motherboard, not just new ram

[weary galleon]

I don't think you'll see much of an improvement with a different ddr4 kit

[mossy venture]

unless you just want more ram

you won't get much better unless you manually tune

[worn pagoda]

i want to get another ddr4 kit! something like 4000mhz cl18, warzone is a ram sensitive game and it does improve with faster ram by a very noticable margin.

[mossy venture]

4000c18 won't really do much better

maybe 2-4%

[weary galleon]

What's your CPU, GPU, and monitor?

you're right that WZ can be ram intensive but it's probably not that much of a bottleneck

[mossy venture]

the only way you'll see an actual improvement is with manually tuned B die or Rev E

which is both expensive and a pain

[worn pagoda]

13600kf, rx 6800, 1440p 165hz

[mossy venture]

I'd just recommend selling mobo and ram, and getting ddr5

[weary galleon]

Unless you're running something else alongside WZ, In which case the improvement would be from more ram not faster

[mossy venture]

I would just https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ptFP2m

if wifi isn't needed

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zgCc6r

[worn pagoda]

well, i have 32 gb because im actually mixing two ram kits, the other two slots are populated by 2400mhz ram, but i managed to make the other kit run at 3200, while the other 16 gb are 2400

[mossy venture]

both kits are running at 2400 then...

you cant have two kits running different speeds

not only that, but mixing ram kits isn't a good idea unless you know the ram die is the same

[worn pagoda]

even if it shows as 3200 by the task manager?

[mossy venture]

then did you get the kit that's 2400mhz to run 3200?

because unless both kits are running 3200mhz, it is impossible for them to be working

[worn pagoda]

my bios shows that the other two are running at 2400

[mossy venture]

that is physically impossible.

[worn pagoda]

oh, maybe some bug?

[mossy venture]

you might be looking at the jedec speed

which is the default speed of the ram without xmp enabled

[worn pagoda]

im going to remove those slower sticks and see if i notice any performance change!

[mossy venture]

did you enable xmp in the bios?

[worn pagoda]

yes

[mossy venture]

because if so, if all 4 sticks are in, then all are running at 3200mhz

[weary galleon]

You may be ram limited with that but like bacca said it's probably something like 5%

[mossy venture]

you don't have to worry about taking the two out

but if you're looking for an upgrade, the only two reasonable options are getting a ddr5 mobo and ram, or finding used B die or Rev E ram and tuning it, or finding a sale on B die, which is rare but does happen

tuning ram is very painful though

[worn pagoda]

Yeah! ive seen vids about ram these last couple of days and it sounds like a pain

i see people talking about dual rank vs single rank but i cant find that info at the store pages

[mossy venture]

this would be the cheapest option to "upgrade" to, but it would not be much of a performance difference https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc

[worn pagoda]

yeah, well, i guess i messed up this build lol, lesson learned. Ill probably just upgrade in a gen or two again.

[mossy venture]

13600k is still incredibly capable on ddr4

I'm running a similar build, just 3060 ti instead of 6800

also just for you to see, this is the cheapest B die kit I could find new https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rNddnQ/mushkin-redline-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl14-memory-mrd4u320ejjp16gx2

B die finder could probably find a cheaper one

[worn pagoda]

Thank you guys for your help!

[mossy venture]

happy to

[worn pagoda]

those ram prices are insane, lol

[mossy venture]

yeah B die isn't really worth it new often

My ram is a Rev E kit, also good for tuning, but i haven't gotten around to it yet

[worn pagoda]

I guess ill rather settle with this, this ram if from my previous build and my mobo is like 100 less than the ddr5 version

[mossy venture]

i got it for $90 on a sale a while back, but that was around a regular ddr4 kit price

now it's about $40 more than a same specced non rev E kit but I don't regret buying it

[worn pagoda]

damn

would a 5600mt ddr5 kit be faster than a 4000mt ddr4 kit?

[mossy venture]

far faster

the difference between ddr4 and ddr5 is more than just the speed

[worn pagoda]

you could get used sticks on amazon for like 30

[mossy venture]

ddr5 downclocked to 3200mhz beats a 3200mhz ddr4 kit any day of the week

[mossy venture]

its a 32gb kit

this is a good kit for ddr5 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl32-memory-flbd532g5600hc32dc01

for ocing, this is really good https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qk9wrH/teamgroup-t-create-classic-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl46-memory-ctccd532g5600hc46dc01

while it has a worse XMP the ram die itself is better for overclocking

[worn pagoda]

damn, the cl difference between both is huge, right?

[mossy venture]

yeah, lower cl is better

but the die in that second kit is gauranteed A die

which is the best ram for ocing on 13th gen

the first I think is a tossup between A die and M die, M is the second best for overclocking

and it's the second best on 7000 series i believe

[worn pagoda]

shouldve researched better, but my cheapness got the best of me

[mossy venture]

as A die can reach higher frequencies, which 13th gen can do

7000 series doesn't like over 6000mhz often, but M die can do lower timings than A die

[worn pagoda]

oh, so thats what people mean by saying that a ram kit is better for one brand than another

[mossy venture]

well eh

for most users it doesn't really matter for different kits, like a corsair 5600c32 and teamgroup 5600c32 kit vs eachother

on amd and intel they'd be identical

it mainly matters when buying high speed ram like 6400+ and or if you're ram tuning

or for ddr4, amd cpus don't like over 3600 most of the time (for 3000 series and 5000, below that don't like over different speeds depending on gen), and a good few intel gens can do 4000+

[little osprey]

The 7th gen amd page says they can only veg to 5600mhz

[mossy venture]

that's without xmp

[little osprey]

Ahhhh

And being a lil troll

I get them

[viral horizon]

oh hey btw

the gpu says it does 16 gb of ram

does that mean it can only support 16 ram

so if im buying 32 ram

then half of it is useless?

[stoic island]

The GPU?

Vram is separate from ram

[zenith cargo]

do u know where I can see that coupon?

[viral horizon]

oh\

is 16gb of vram still good?

[stoic island]

Yes

[viral horizon]

alright thanks bro

[mossy venture]

16gb is more than good

8gb is still sufficient for a lot of people

[little osprey]

I'm running fh5 at extreme

Like everything maxed out

And I don't use 16gb vram

I can watch videos, stream on discord and see other streams while at it

[fleet heron]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mjJryK

I'm trying to build my friend a computer and that's the list I've got currently

Anything I should change?

[mossy venture]

I would change a good bit

one sec

for a lil more https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2LRZBj

can change gpu as you want

the 3070 ti isn't worth it though

[fleet heron]

Why?

I was thinking of getting a used one if I can find it

Also

[mossy venture]

used is fine

new it's terribly priced

[fleet heron]

What's the difference in the ram Is it just cheaper?

[fleet heron]

Yea I see

[mossy venture]

there's more

32gb vs 16gb

3070 ti performs within 2% of 3070

[obsidian wolf]

Green and red on the mobo just after cleaning the cpu and the Cooler

What can it be

:/

[mossy venture]

remount cpu and cooler

see if it helps

[obsidian wigeon]

probably bad mount for both of those

[obsidian wolf]

Alright will bring it out once again

I mean everything lock in right

Isn’t it well mounted?

[obsidian wigeon]

still redo everything

if it doesn't work try resetting cmos

[obsidian wolf]

I don’t think my mobo has a cmos

[obsidian wigeon]

it does

should have cmos reset header or cmos batt

[obsidian wolf]

Now it’s white light

It launch though

It blinked twice

[obsidian wigeon]

now wait

[obsidian wolf]

It’s working now!

[obsidian wigeon]

alright, that's good

[obsidian wolf]

I still feel like an amateur

Fixing or doing builds :/

[obsidian wigeon]

sometimes cmos reset is needed when you take something out and put it back in

it's okay

[obsidian wolf]

It’s like always you guys are the hiding hand and I thank yah for that

[languid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/oxi-clean-but-wait-theres-more-home-shopping-gif-9592017

[obsidian wigeon]

it's a learning experience

[obsidian wolf]

The only reason I did this is because it kept going to 92 C

And I know the 7700x can handle 95

But it was already stretching my comfort zone

[obsidian wigeon]

92c is a bit high but it's within fine range

suspecting of subpar mount doesn't hurt tho ofc

[obsidian wolf]

Yeah

In my case it kept flickering in some stuff as so lately and that make me discomfortable given how recent the build is

also now is idling 43

compare to the 66 I was seeing already before

[vague oracle]

@earnest olive @paper summit y’all want some Ballistix max? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DRQ2M18?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

Found a great deal on it

@bitter mason @cyan ravine y’all might be interested too

[bitter mason]

I have some lol

[paper summit]

Oh amazing deal

[vague oracle]

You could use some more

[bitter mason]

$995 for DDR4 is a really smart move

[vague oracle]

You gotta support your local business

[bitter mason]

lol that XMP runs on like 11900K & nothing else too I bet

[vague oracle]

I’ll get it to run on my 3700x

[bitter mason]

well 12/13th if you get D4 board

[vague oracle]

VSOC to 2V

[bitter mason]

2.2v if board will give it to you

[vague oracle]

I don’t think my board gives me a cap

I accidentally typed in 12 instead of 1.2 and it let me set it to 12V

[mossy venture]

Will this work well with my 3300x 1050 ti build?

[tawny fiber]

https://micro.center/3906ed

[potent portal]

This is a better deal tho https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VbtWGX/corsair-memory-cmd32gx4m4a2666c15

[fleet heron]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2LRZBj

Fal what do you think of this build

Anything I could/should change?

[frigid night]

Is a 1tb MP33 cheaper?

[cyan ravine]

Two part of that build have no price

Mobo, ram

[frigid night]

cooler and gpu for me

[cyan ravine]

Case is meh

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeah it's those but I'd change mobo, ram and case

[fleet heron]

Not sure

[fleet heron]

What would you change it to?

[mossy venture]

I didn't know your list was for Canada

[fleet heron]

Huh yea

[potent portal]

What was the total budget and is anything bought already?

[cyan ravine]

@fleet heron https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Z4j3cb

[fleet heron]

No but the budget is around 1300 cad so like 1000 usd

[cyan ravine]

You could go with a cheaper case but this would look more complete

Ah

[mossy venture]

Basically what I had

Just change cpu to 12400f, smaller psu, and change gpu as needed to fit budget

[fleet heron]

Yea lol I was going to say

[cyan ravine]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/RwKybK

Yeah

[fleet heron]

I forgot fans in the first build lol

[mossy venture]

If this is fine https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KxP2Q6

[fleet heron]

Is the case only different?

[mossy venture]

Still over budget though

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeah the cooler

I forgor

[cyan ravine]

Nyo a few things

[fleet heron]

What cooler? Huh

[fleet heron]

Yea I realized lol

[mossy venture]

$1330 https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LmJsH2

I'd still go for the 750w masterwatt though

[fleet heron]

That case is very funny looking lool but the cheaper the better

[mossy venture]

I've run a 6800xt on an rmx650 but masterwatt is B tier, extra 100w headroom would be good to have

That mobo also doesn't come with wifi

So will need a separate wifi card

[cyan ravine]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/b79sH2

$30 is worth stretching for

[fleet heron]

Oh could you add a mobo with wifi?

[cyan ravine]

$50 over would get you comfortable with a cooler

[mossy venture]

This is $1333 and has wifi https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LWwT4s

[fleet heron]

What about the coolers?

[potent portal]

Another option, DDR5 allows for future upgrades https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/kLKybK

[cyan ravine]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jpJsH2

[potent portal]

Stock cooler is fine for a 12400 or 5600

[mossy venture]

Oh for $10 less https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/RHWzK8/gigabyte-b550m-ds3h-ac-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-ds3h-ac

[fleet heron]

I was thinking of this one but with a wifi mobo what do you guys think?

[cyan ravine]

Oh wait I alr posted it

Gdi costco

[mossy venture]

Does mobo have bios flash?

[potent portal]

Boards with wifi are quite a bit more expensive and pushes you into the 1400 cad range

[mossy venture]

Ds3h b450

[cyan ravine]

Telling me my membership dead

[potent portal]

No flashback

[mossy venture]

Can save a bit more with mx330

[cyan ravine]

Ah yeah forgor

[fleet heron]

Hmm I think he can do 1400 plus I'm not familiar with wifi card thingys

[mossy venture]

Then b550 ds3h ac

That comes with wifi

[fleet heron]

Kk

[jagged ember]

Wifi card not hard to install

No problem on atx boards

Matx might be a problem with the damn size of current GPUs

[fleet heron]

Matx?

[jagged ember]

Micro ATX

Matx

[mossy venture]

For $1400 https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KLKybK

Wifi card separate from mobo

[cyan ravine]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yPL6nt

[fleet heron]

Those two seem very similar

[cyan ravine]

Cos they are

[potent portal]

They'll perform very similar too

[cyan ravine]

One has better ST perf, the other has better QoL parts

About all she wrote there lol

[fleet heron]

I think I'll go for the first one as it's cheaper

[cyan ravine]

NYOOOOOOO

(I'm foolin don't mind me)

[fleet heron]

😶

[jagged ember]

No techie pay for you

[cyan ravine]

Time to live off bread crumbs for a couple days

[fleet heron]

Should I buy a 6800 for 300$ used or do I buy that one in the list?

[cyan ravine]

Absolutely go used if you can

[fleet heron]

Kk

[cyan ravine]

Just make sure the seller is legit and use paypal goods and services

[frigid night]

pfft. you got enough for a loaf xD

[fleet heron]

Gottcha

I've never bought used components before

[cyan ravine]

About 110 today if I was counting

[frigid night]

hehe

wait

only 110?

I could get.. 259 loaves lol

[fleet heron]

110 what

Oh

Nvm

[cyan ravine]

Yeah blame inflation

[fleet heron]

Is that linus in your pfp?

[flint sapphire]

It’s anime Linus

[mossy venture]

Does this mean you surrender your techie role to me?

[mossy venture]

Saving money on gpu gives room to go for better QOL on other parts

[potent portal]

Oh noes we can't live without our stipend of theocoin

[fleet heron]

Yea but it's already a bit over

Ok now I'm curious what are you guys talking about smh I don't understand

[potent portal]

Theocoin? Inside joke don't worry

Theocoin isn't real it can't hurt you

[fleet heron]

Good. Lol

[south cliff]

Does anyone know about phones?

[potent portal]

What about them?

[south cliff]

Ok

So I have a 11 pro max

And I got a upgrade deal for the motarola edge plus 2023 version for 400 and was wondering if it’s worth the upgrade

The 165 hz looking pretty good fr

[potent portal]

I'm a "ride it 'til the wheels fall off" kind of person so personally I'd run with whatever I have until it either doesn't work any more (or is very slow and resetting doesn't help) or there's new features that I absolutely must have.

[fleet heron]

Same

[potent portal]

Looks fine but are you planning on playing cod mobile or something where you'd actually use it?

[south cliff]

It’s really 200 because my mom paying 200 and I’m giving her this phone and she is giving me her old xr

But I play db ledgends

And Dokkan battle and Pokémon go

[south cliff]

What phone do you have?

[potent portal]

Pixel 6

[weary galleon]

Pretty good upgrade for $200 asuming you don't mind leaving iOS

[south cliff]

I don’t mind

And I have my moms old iPhone XR

[potent portal]

Android phones do tend to be a bit better for gaming if you get one with actually decent specs

[south cliff]

It looks pretty good on the specs

[potent portal]

Might be a good option if you're not happy with how it's working now

[south cliff]

I think

[south cliff]

I’m happy with what I got but it’s a pretty good deal 165 hz phone for 200 dollars and a iPhone XR

And I could sell the iPhone XR for 20

200

[weary galleon]

doubt those still go for that much

[potent portal]

I only got the pixel 6 earlier this year too when my LG G7 had an accident. It decided it didn't want to play any more and managed to jump off my car roof while I was closing the trunk. My car is still dented on that part of the trunk that closed on it.

[south cliff]

Well I still have iOS and a android phone

Xr and the edge plus

[weary galleon]

looks like they're going for 170ish on ebay

minus seller fees

[south cliff]

Yeah and it’s cracked on the back but I feel like this is a pretty good deal tbh

[potent portal]

I see that the motorola has an OLED screen. That alone would be a good reason to upgrade IMO, it's night and day compared to older tech.

[weary galleon]

11 pro is also oled, no?

[south cliff]

It is

[weary galleon]

60hz though

[south cliff]

Pro max I’m pretty sure

Yeah

165 will be night and day

[potent portal]

You'll be going to a lower resolution though

[south cliff]

True

[weary galleon]

barely forgot he has max

[south cliff]

That’s one of the downsides

[potent portal]

Storage would be bigger if you upgraded though. Apple really pushes their "everything is in the cloud" thing. That you have to pay for now.

[south cliff]

It’s 256 is what I got now

And more ram

[potent portal]

Ah you got the upgraded model

[south cliff]

I feel like having a android and iOS phone will be better than just having a iOS phone

And the edge plus is still a really good phone

[potent portal]

The cameras seem better specs-wise on the motorola. The focal length isn't as good but lots more MP.

And 1080p 960Hz recording

[weary galleon]

wow

[potent portal]

Might be fun to play with that and do some slow-mo videos

[south cliff]

I’m not really a picture person just a game player fr

[weary galleon]

just to be clear, you're not trading in the 11 pmax + $200 for the Edge, right?

[south cliff]

Yes

And my mom giving me her iPhone XR

[potent portal]

Besides the 165Hz I'm not seeing too many compelling reasons to upgrade if that's the case tbh

[south cliff]

On top of that

[potent portal]

Hmm I guess the processor is quite a bit more powerful https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/qualcomm-snapdragon-8-gen-2-vs-apple-a13-bionic

[weary galleon]

Right but I doubt the A13 chip will really start showing its age for a couple more years

[potent portal]

Yeah the A13 can still do 60 fps in genshin on ultra

[weary galleon]

Personally i would hold on to it for a while and then (if you don't mind being locked toa specific carrier for a while) trade it in

[south cliff]

I haven’t had the 11 pro max for that long only paid 300 for it

[south cliff]

And I forgot I say my 11 pro max is cracked

[south cliff]

I think I’m just going to get the motarola

[limber oyster]

I figured out my next card

[limber oyster]

I have a Motorola rn. It's pretty decent but gonna switch to the Nord N30 5g shortly

[fiery sable]

So I’m going to be building a gaming pc for someone and their budget is $500 can someone make me a build list around that price range if possible ik that it’ll prob be hard to get something good in that price range

[cyan ravine]

The floor for what we'd call "decent" starts at $570

We looked at this yesterday

Below that you take some serious value cuts that just aren't worth doing

OR

If you can accept used parts

You could get closer to 500

[fiery sable]

Yea, that’s what I was thinking. It’s gonna be hard, but if I can get a list that’s a decent price then I’ll see if I can find used parts

[cyan ravine]

@fiery sable https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pz9xZw

Cpu, gpu, ram used

[fiery sable]

Ok thanks

[manic cloak]

the only time i get offers for the monitor im selling is when the rest of the good deals for 1440p monitors disappear

there’s currently a 150$ g27q or a m27Q for 200$

[weary galleon]

$150 g37q where?

[frigid night]

I too would like to know

[frosty surge]

I have the rx 6750xt I can return it and get the rtx 3080 for 450 on Facebook should I do that

[mossy venture]

I'd looka t 6800xt pricing first used

[manic cloak]

facebook marketplace LOL

@frigid night ^

but I do need an answer

150$ g27q or 200$ M27Q

[weary galleon]

probably g27q

[frigid night]

M27q is a good monitor for $200.

[manic cloak]

two answers 😭

[weary galleon]

M has better response times but I dunno if its worth 30% more

[frigid night]

It also offers higher refresh rate among other features the g27q doesn't have

[manic cloak]

ya cause it’s 144hz vs 170hz

and the m27q is built different

and a different dashboard too

[frigid night]

Personally. I'd go for m27q. I have 2 g27q

[weary galleon]

actually looking at a direct comparison the motion clarity difference is more than I thought

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/gigabyte-g27q-vs-gigabyte-m27q/12904/19668?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

[frigid night]

Yeah

$200 is a steal for that monitor.

[manic cloak]

so the verdict is m27q for 200$

[weary galleon]

both good deals but yeah i'd do m27q

[frigid night]

For sure.

[mossy venture]

Thirded

[cyan ravine]

Fourth'd'ed

[limber oyster]

Anyone know why when I have two screens, I have a video playing in one and when I go to open a game in the other it minimizes my video and then reopens it in the screen that my game is also playing on?

[little osprey]

It's not normal, but when you open a full screen game it will kind of shrink your usable space to that one monitor

Hard to explain

But it shouldn't do that

[limber oyster]

It's irritating when trying to watch Shield Hero and play Diablo 3

[icy geyser]

I've gone ryzen 3 apu and then a few ryzen 5s, now I'm on a 5600x and want to go to ddr5 but like not another ryzen 5 or like i5 since, I can finally go a new board so its like really what's the point of going ryzen 5 again. Is there anything better for going DDR5 then this deal form micro center, can be buying stuff separate, Intel, Amazon, newegg or whatever.

[obsidian wigeon]

399 for that is great

can't do much better separate if you wanna match board

otherwise you can save money going for a cheaper board

wait, even picking separate parts would cost more lol

grab that if you have the money

[potent portal]

Try playing in borderless windowed instead of regular fullscreen

That's usually the key when you have multi monitor

[icy geyser]

On like a different website I can't do better like Amazon, new egg or someplace else or Intel has a better deal?

[obsidian wigeon]

Nope

Nothing beats this deal

It's like ram is $99, board $100 and cpu $200

That exact kit is around $100

And the board is like around $200, I believe?

[icy geyser]

?

[icy geyser]

?

[icy geyser]

That's a $200 board?

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes, if you buy em seperately

CPU is like $300

So you'd be looking at over 400 easily if you biy the parts separate

Actually, $329 is what the cpu costs rn

[obsidian wolf]

this is a great deal

and I speak from the experience which is that deal i use to make my pc

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7cKftn @icy geyser

Parts matched, bought separately

$611

So you can imagine the discount here

[icy geyser]

Man, but still those parts at least maybe the board are maybe overpriced and CPU is always on sale. That said yeah I just came here to make sure nothing like Intel or a different website was better and its not. If I upgrade my CPU over my GPU I'll buy this deal 100%

[icy geyser]

Before or after the price cut from $500 to $400?

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah you can't beat this still lel

7700x is still fairly new

Price still remains rock solid

Board can only get like $40-$60 cheaper

[potent portal]

Intel is kind of a dead end now too. Next gen might be using the same socket but it's only a refresh so only about 5-10% more performance. The AM5 socket will be supported for at least another 4 years.

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

The heavy discounts microcenter gives on these bundles are unmatched

[potent portal]

It's basically buy the memory and the CPU at a discount, and get a free motherboard. Nothing else comes close.

[obsidian wigeon]

yep lmao

[icy geyser]

I mean when AM5 first came out and DDR5 was so expensive you could make the claim its better to buy Intel since you didn't need ddr5 but could buy it later. That and I think before price drops when AM5 just came out Intel was better idk? Now I think its a quick flip back to AMD better.

[obsidian wigeon]

DDR5 is great

[icy geyser]

Yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

Intel is slower than ddr4

Sorry, I meant slower with ddr4 than ddr5

And I wouldn't say they're expensive, just a bit high in pricing

DDR4 in comparison is $40-50 for a decent xmp kit, 32gb ofc

Since it's had time to mature and saturate the demand

[icy geyser]

Yeah but it was a way less expensive upgrade when DDR first launched and was like $300 for 16gb I think or maybe it wasn't that much but was bad expensive.

[icy geyser]

It has gotten way better since launch.

[obsidian wigeon]

Yep

[potent portal]

DDR5 got some serious price drops right before AM5 launched, and it's only gone down since then. Early in the DDR5 cycle it would have been an easier/cheaper upgrade to just go with a DDR4 board and carry your current memory forward.

Now DDR4 is still cheaper but not by much.

[icy geyser]

Anyways anything Intel might have had on AMD has been mitigated by the price drops in DDR 5 and by AMD.

[obsidian wigeon]

But now, ddr4 is a burden if you have the means to afford something better

[potent portal]

13th gen especially doesn't like DDR4

13400 and higher gets measurable performance drops

[obsidian wigeon]

Oh yeah, performance can fall by up to 20%

Just using ddr4 alone on 13th gen

AM5 being DDR5 exclusive is exempt from this deficiency

[potent portal]

It also lets AM5 have a smaller die area since they don't need both the DDR4 and DDR5 controllers on die

LGA1700 being as large as it is has caused several issues

[obsidian wigeon]

AM5 has its own issues, but that's to blame cooler mounting compatibility

[obsidian wolf]

before the price cut and it was great nonetheless

back them it was worth it as well

[obsidian wigeon]

IHS is so thick it doesn't cool itself well

[frigid night]

I love seeing that word come from your name.

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[vague oracle]

Even on top of the thiccCCCC IHS, the X3D chips already have the stacked silicon giving even more insulation

[potent portal]

But the X3D chips also use less power

So they actually run cooler

[vague oracle]

Ehh I’ve been seeing a lot of them running ~95C even on decent coolers

[potent portal]

Yeah
By design

[vague oracle]

Yeah, that still doesn’t mean it’s a good design tho

[potent portal]

It's the clock speeds you should be looking at. The new boost algorithm moves the throttle point above 95C so that's where they stabilize clocks.

[obsidian wigeon]

I really feel it with my laptop

The 7735hs loves to boost as high as temp limit allows

[manic cloak]

Who gave this kid access to unsupervised out of all things, facebook marketplace.

[potent portal]

Either a kid or a flipper. So many times I've seen those kinds of questions like "can I get a discount for my kid's birthday pwease?" and then they turn around and sell it.

[manic cloak]

💀

[little osprey]

Shouldve said yes, and let him wait

[potent portal]

I'm not that cruel lol. What I'll do is (for a $30 item)
"Can you do $15? It'S fOr My SoN"
"Oh I've got a special discount for you then! A whole -$15 off!"
"Great when can I pick it up!"
"As soon as you send me $45."
"I thought it was discounted?!"
"That's a negative discount"

Invariably that leads to "you just ruined my son's birthday, he's crying now" which is obvious BS

[hazy saffron]

[lone flame]

thoughts on the 7900 gre?

if the video i watched is truthfull its listed at $649 USD

[cyan ravine]

Kinda mid

It's real

[lone flame]

yeah thats what i also thought

[obsidian wigeon]

might as well probably wait for 7800xt

[lone flame]

it should of been a 7800 or smth

[obsidian wigeon]

it's like a special 7800xt

mainly china focused

[lone flame]

^

[cyan ravine]

It's essentially a 6900xt for the price of a little more than a 6950xt with new features

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

[cyan ravine]

So I mean, there are benefits throwing away that 5-10% raw performance, for real RT, lower power draw, new codecs, just to name a few

But you'd have to weigh up yourself if that was worth it

[obsidian wigeon]

knowing amd you can just wait a bit

and price will fall to good range

[lone flame]

^^

[cyan ravine]

I will say it's basically like nvidia and the 4070 vs 3080 10gb

Just the price disparity is tiny

Not huge

[lone flame]

ever since i bought parts i started watching so many videos and i actually understand stuff now

makes me realise how good of value my 6700 xt is

[cyan ravine]

Ya

We all start like that

[lone flame]

i think i finally got my drivers figured out

very pleased with it so far

[cyan ravine]

The 6700 xt is one of my favourite amd cards I've used

It just works

[lone flame]

will def be sticking with amd for future upgrades

[lone flame]

exactly

i dont need anything crazy rn

just something that works

if i do upgrade ive thought about the 6950 XT, but by the time I decide to upgrade the mid range 7000 series will probably of been out for awhile

[cyan ravine]

We won't see the 7900 gre

But we will see the 7800xt soon

It's the smallest navi 31 die

So I reckon it'll be in both skus rn

But when the 7800xt drops it'll probably be worth it after a couple months

Say it drops $50 to 600? That's worth it 100%

It would be up there for one of the best cards money can buy

[lone flame]

will the upper 6000 series drop in price once the mid range 7000 series comes out?

[cyan ravine]

Possible yes

But AMD has been selling at that price for a long time now

It could also not move at all given what we can only assume is successful sales

[lone flame]

yeah cause the 6950xt is like 800-900 still

when did it release?

[cyan ravine]

6950 was as low as like, 630 at one point

[vague oracle]

Still is

[cyan ravine]

It released like, late 2021, early 2022

[vague oracle]

$640 https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6950-xt-rx6950xt-pg-16go/p/N82E16814930088?

[lone flame]

oh yeah nvm I was looking at the wrong thing

i hate to be that guy but what was asrock thinking when they made this card it looks terrible

[vague oracle]

waterblock it

[lone flame]

sounds complicated and expensive

[vague oracle]

But it’s fun

https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-6950-xt-rx-695xatbd9/p/27N-0002-00172

[lone flame]

also a weird thing that really doesn't make sense to me, but i love the look of the reference cards for amd

they just look neat ig

[cyan ravine]

I agree tbh

That said the asrock card looks way better in person than the pics

I'm not an rgb guy but it's sat front and center in one of my favourite builds

[weary galleon]

nah, it looks fine and is often one of the cheapest 6800/6900 models

Now the Challenger D (6600) on the other hand

Stylish Metal Backplate

haha

[tidal moth]

@analog hearth

Steel series moment

[analog hearth]

Steelseries Sonar is essential to me lol

[leaden halo]

Hi

[little osprey]

@analog hearth, what mic?

[analog hearth]

Some FiFine. Sounds really good after tuning with Steelseries Sonar even though it’s just a USB mic

[earnest olive]

i mean... i think it looks pretty good

[manic cloak]

somebody offered me 160$ for my monitor

I’m flipping, quite physically and literally.

got it for 150$.

issue is, the M27Q person hasn’t replied to me yet

so I might have to go with the G27Q 😭

[mossy venture]

g27q is still a great monitor

also what is the monitor you're selling?

[near spruce]

I have a AsRock620M pro RS and msi spatium m371 on the motherboard it has 2 slots for the SSD but should I use the Hyper m.2 slot or the regular?

[potent portal]

Doesn't matter with that drive

[manic cloak]

g27f 2

I think it’s called.

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D4-007C-00005?cm_sp=SP-_-1989658-_-0-_-6-_-9SIBK6TJNN4589-_-1440p+monitor-_-monitor-_-198 is this any good though?

[mossy venture]

I'd trust g27q over it

[manic cloak]

so g27q> whatever that is

and HDR10 isn’t even hdr is it

also what is KVM

[strong raft]

hdr10 is advertising. KVM stands for "keyboard, video, mouse," and allows you to control multiple computers from a single keyboard, mouse, and monitor. kvm personally isn't a big deal. I already want 2+ monitors w/ 1 PC so I'd definitely want 2+ monitors w/ 2pcs, lol.

[manic cloak]

ah. so if worse case scenario I shouldn’t buy the M27Q brand new if the guy doesn’t respond, only the g27q used for 150$.

Even though the extra 21hz is tempting..

[strong raft]

oh m27q is a good monitor, but indeed not sure worth (almost) 2x the g27q or similar.

[near spruce]

Ty turns out the motherboard has a short circuit anyway so I have to send it back for replacement

[obsidian wigeon]

hdr10 is just ability to play hdr

but not actually be able to be true hdr unless the monitor is good enough for hdr

[potent portal]

HDR 10 content is normally made with 1000 to 4000 nits in mind but when applied to monitors there's no required brightness level. HDR10+ requires 1000 nits peak.

[obsidian wigeon]

yep lol

[little osprey]

Alright well I've run into an issue

It might just be a stock configuration or something, however I just installed some spare fans onto my main rig

I sacerficed having a exhaust fan to run my dual tower cooler and front two intake fans

(12100F and 5700 rig)

But they're only showing up as yellow

I plugged the daisy chained RGB header into D_LED

Could it happen to be that header is non-addressable and I'd have to switch to LED_C?

[potent portal]

Showing up where, what program are you using

[little osprey]

Just in person

I looked at OpenRGB

[potent portal]

Also a dual tower on a 12100 is hilarious

[little osprey]

Too confusing

[little osprey]

I was bored

That's my excuse

[potent portal]

Well if openrgb is too confusing I don't know what to tell you. Try the Gigabyte software maybe.

[little osprey]

I don't think they're showing up

[potent portal]

Did you run it as admin like the window says

Also you need to change the D_LED size to tell it how many LEDs are attached. You can usually just max it out and it's fine.

[little osprey]

Whoops, no

I’m stupid my bad

[little osprey]

Bottom or top?

[potent portal]

It's fine, this type of thing happens a lot if you're not following a guide lol

Both

[little osprey]

Ooooh okay

[little osprey]

Yeah first time doing case fans

[little osprey]

Alright cool I got it working

[little osprey]

clean it

now

[formal mica]

3 months

[little osprey]

Bro

My PC has been in use for close to nine months now and there’s minimal dust

Though could be to my mom cleaning often and dusting

[little osprey]

people just don't clean their room

Moment

[formal mica]

lol I got a cat in my for like 24/7 there is literaly cat hair on the front vent

Its just sad that I built it 3 months ago and its alrady so dusty

[limber oyster]

DO NOT BUY NETGEAR WIFI ROUTERS. THE APP TO CONTROL THE ROUTER HAS BEEN BUGGED FOR THE PAST 2 YEARS. You can't update firmware without the app and app can't connect to the router to update due to invalid firmware. And the routerlogin site sends you to a site that brings you to the app download link.

[potent portal]

Lots of brands are doing that lol. It's how they make money off you even after you buy the device, ads.

You don't actually own anything anymore, any company can just shut off your access at any time.

[limber oyster]

Apparently, even if your firmware is up to date it still displays the out of date message and does the loop

[little osprey]

why can't i post images?

[obsidian wigeon]

Not enough levels yet

You can level up by chatting

[little osprey]

sigh

i guess that is.... fair.

aww come on

[zenith cargo]

Do I need to update my bios for the 5600x3d?

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[tawny fiber]

If the bios boots with a 5800x3d it is known to boot with 5600x3d too

[fossil cedar]

Best to update it anyway

[analog hearth]

If you’re experiencing problems (or anything unexpected), update the BIOS

[cyan ravine]

I would just update anyway, If I'm not mistaken the latest AGESA for AM4 is supposed to be quite good

Better safe than sorry when you spent all that time flipping the cpu over (regardless of the precedent)

[analog hearth]

I think I agree with updating more now that you mention the labor comparison

[cyan ravine]

I've been in the situation so I only know so well

[analog hearth]

I’ll take your word for it haha

[compact badge]

Is the AMD Ryzen 7 5700G a decent processor

[obsidian wigeon]

no, unless you really need the igpu

[compact badge]

I looking for parts to build to run multiple VMs...Linux, macOS etc.

[obsidian wigeon]

What's your budget for the parts?

You can instead get R5-7600 with A620 board, and some ddr5

If you have the budget for the ram

Decent ddr5 kits are like 80-90 bucks that's for 32gb

A620 for $100-130

[earnest olive]

what price can you get it for?

it can be good for the right price

5700g can run on a cheaper board and cheaper ram than a 7600

and has 8 decent cores

it all comes down to the price

[manic cloak]

This guy who’s selling a 50$ PSU on facebook marketplace took a month to reply, and the first thing he says EVER is “Wtf?”

like dude.

[mossy venture]

checks out

[compact badge]

The Ryzen 7 5700g sells for about $177.00usd

Here is a list of my budget and use for the build

Budget up to $700 USD America
Use: would like to possibly run multiple VMs i.e. Linux Ubuntu, Kali, Mac os. Windows will be my main OS
Some games like on an emulator.. no high end gaming
No video editing or stream movies
Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated

[potent portal]

5700G would be a good option for that since you don't need a dedicated GPU

Assuming you're not doing like, PS3 emulation

[mossy venture]

if a gpu is needed could do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tgyKHG

[manic cloak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w8qmPF

I had that

[mossy venture]

if no gpu you could do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xN4scH

though would prob want an aftermarket cooler

[potent portal]

You don't really want to do the 5700G if you're going to have a dedicated GPU. It's as good as a 3700X in most tasks, worse in a few.

[compact badge]

Would like to play retro game that ran on DOS...(DOSBox

[mossy venture]

i wouldnt trust 7700 with stock cooler for non gaming loads

so https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZmpH9c

[fossil cedar]

id opt for 13400 in this scenario

[mossy venture]

e cores get finnicky with vms though, no?

[manic cloak]

ah

[fossil cedar]

afaik theyre fine

[potent portal]

If you bind the cores

[fossil cedar]

wdym by bind?

[mossy venture]

in that case https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pfcbt7

or could go 13500

it's overpriced but for this case it's arguably worth it

[potent portal]

Tell the VM program to only use the P cores, since scheduling conflicts can happen

[fossil cedar]

afaik not a lot of point going d5 on anything less than 13600

[mossy venture]

that's changed now, below 13600k have adl cores now

[fossil cedar]

oh right

[mossy venture]

so it does see a decent bit of improvement on d5

could also do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WrBj4M

which would definitely outperform 13400f or 13500 on ddr5

wait im an idiot

[potent portal]

13400 and below, but recent revisions of the 13400 are known to have rpl cores

[mossy venture]

sorry yeah i meant rpl not adl

[potent portal]

13500 is guaranteed rpl, 13400 is a gamble