building-and-recc-chat

[livid shadow]

The goddamned brick

[mossy venture]

and same for the tower

[fossil cedar]

hear me out ✨ floor✨

[mossy venture]

it worked very well actually

[frigid night]

what is 20km in miles? I'm a little loopy atm to do that maths

[mossy venture]

ima vomit

both made it the 40min drive at 70-80mph safely

[frigid night]

https://tenor.com/view/kots-straal-spugen-vomit-puke-gif-14891152

[fossil cedar]

thats pretty standard, postage takes time

[little osprey]

I might need to put it there temporarily

[mossy venture]

when I have my own place I'm excited to redo my whole setup

[fossil cedar]

like 12 eagles

[little osprey]

till I get to my bedroom and buy the new desk

[frigid night]

https://tenor.com/view/no-oh-the-horror-mortified-no-no-no-my-name-is-earl-gif-5376630

[livid shadow]

Man I have my case 20cm off the floor and still need to clean filters often

[mossy venture]

currently i have two mismatching desks put together to give me enough room lol

[little osprey]

my desk is stuffed

[livid shadow]

I've got one of those IKEA under monitor stands and have my pc on top

[little osprey]

it's only a 140cm

[frigid night]

I guess I just have a huge desk

[fossil cedar]

as long as you dont have a carpet the floor is perfectly fine

[frigid night]

I hate you.

[little osprey]

I have wood floor

[frigid night]

but I actually love you

[fossil cedar]

yeah so do i

[livid shadow]

But what if the dust is the carpet

[mossy venture]

i also want to replace my side monitors, they're 1050p TN 60hz and hurt my eyes because of the panel

[frigid night]

and I've seen how nasty that filter gets!

[little osprey]

we love not being american

cuz we get non paper walls

[frigid night]

I have wooden walls 🙂

I is american

[livid shadow]

I have PLASTIC floor

[little osprey]

[fossil cedar]

i said dont

[frigid night]

Wooden

[little osprey]

I have concrete walls

[frigid night]

I also have a log cabin made out of... full size logs like a lincoln logset

[little osprey]

when I thought about punching the wall

[fossil cedar]

meh, not really, i just hoover it when hoovering my room every 2-3 weeks

[little osprey]

I remembered that I'd lose a few bones

[frigid night]

I'll have to find the pic I saved when I first joined. It was gross

[fossil cedar]

i prefer the term ✨ dissassemble ✨

[fossil cedar]

maybe youre just stinky

[little osprey]

I have this black thingy

To put the case

[frigid night]

That's the best compliment I've gotten all day <3. I have to shower daily or my man stink attracts all the women. It gets hard to fend them off after a week.

[fossil cedar]

🤮

[frigid night]

I don't sweat XD

[fossil cedar]

thats literally impossible

unless you have some condition

[frigid night]

I very rarely sweat.

[fossil cedar]

which is v rare and v bad

sounds more like it lol

[little osprey]

I heard that Asians don't have smelly sweat

[little osprey]

Get on the gym ngl, I promise you, you will sweat

[frigid night]

heh. I had a girl once that got mad at me if I took a shower more than once a week. Said I was washing away the heavenly smell of sexiness lol

[fossil cedar]

its a person by person thing, mainly consists of diet and some biological things

[tranquil pebble]

Excuse me?

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-thats-weird-gru-steve-carell-despicable-me2-strange-gif-16561721

[little osprey]

Bro...

I can't say the k word now

[frigid night]

Can you change your about me while in this server please?

[little osprey]

Wait huh

[frigid night]

It has an offensive word.

[little osprey]

So you telling me

[fossil cedar]

yeah please change youre about me or im gonna have to ban you

[little osprey]

Or was it sissy

[fossil cedar]

please just dont

[tranquil pebble]

Damn alright

[little osprey]

At least bro gets what a good char is

And doesn't worship fraudkuna

[tranquil pebble]

I take no Sukuna disrespect

[little osprey]

nvm

[fossil cedar]

goncalo lets keep it pg13 please

[little osprey]

ahhhhh

I was using that as a father word

smh

[tranquil pebble]

What did he day? 💀

[little osprey]

[tranquil pebble]

Oh…

[fossil cedar]

dude

[little osprey]

but aight

[mossy venture]

?

kill?

[little osprey]

no

[mossy venture]

dm it to me?

because theres one im thinking of that is a slur

and im hoping it isnt that

[little osprey]

what

[tranquil pebble]

I’d assume its that (not that I know)

[fossil cedar]

no its just not appropriate

[little osprey]

what is "that"

[little osprey]

it wasn't

[frigid night]

@fossil cedar If you aren't busy.. I need the rest to go with this. The person will only be web browsing/movie watching/easy as hell to run games like casino games. I don't think I need a GPU, but if I do, I have a 580. What's the cheapest route I can go to get this completed? I believe a small case will be ok as it won't need that much airflow. I'm not sure how cheap of a cooler I could go, but it seems like the cpu won't run hot at all. I think the gal would like RGB though.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zwVhRB

[fossil cedar]

Gimme like 30 mins xx

[obsidian wigeon]

used h110

[frigid night]

yes, both parts in the list are used

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

nvm then

[frigid night]

I currently have the cpu/mobo. I have since used every other part the original PC came with in different builds I've sold.

But I recently got a customer that wants a simple PC that won't empty her purse that she can enjoy.

So it doesn't need super good anything tbh. I doubt the thing would ever throttle under her use.

No nvme slot on the board so SATA SSD will be the way to go and I think 256-500gb would be the sweet spot for her.

She'll prob just store her pictures and whatnot

[obsidian wigeon]

hm that's gomna be pretty cheap indeed

tray cpu, so no cooler right?

[little osprey]

Wouldn't a cloud be better tho?

[obsidian wigeon]

cloud subscriptions cringe

[frigid night]

No cooler. It had one, but idr where it went

[little osprey]

[frigid night]

This is an older lady who doesn't know much about technology.

So it's gotta be basic.

She'll probably even have one of those wireless mice from walmart xD

[little osprey]

Ahhh

[frigid night]

These are just pretty much the last of my low end parts that are sitting here doing nothing, so I'm trying to get them out the door for some sort of $. I already made hella profit from the rest of the build so this is just bonus

[obsidian wigeon]

@frigid night https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zMCPmr

came up with this

very cheap sata ssd

perfectly fine with storing pics and stuff

1tb can be had for basically double the price

if you want

funnily enough this ends up cheaper than subscribing to cloud

[frigid night]

is that as small of a case I can get away with?

while still being cheap?

[obsidian wigeon]

nah there's smaller

focus g mini

micro atx only case

[frigid night]

I don't think I will need a GPU in this build but hold on

[obsidian wigeon]

nah 6500 has igpu

doesn't need a gpu at all

[frigid night]

right

[obsidian wigeon]

pc for old lady who doesn't play games is fine with the igp

[frigid night]

but I mean if I did end up needing one in there

I'd be putting this in there https://www.xfxforce.com/gpus/amd-radeon-tm-rx-580-gts-xxx-edition-8gb-3

[obsidian wigeon]

580 is like worth about $100 or less

[frigid night]

yeah I have it

I just don't know exactly what games she does play.

[obsidian wigeon]

either way the psu will be ok with gpu added

apevia prestige is c tier i think

kinda vaguely remembering it

[frigid night]

I was just told card style games, but I still have yet to talk to her. I'm just going off what the guy told me. She is supposed to contact me. I'm just trying to get a preemptive price.

[frigid night]

it's spec C, but I have used 3 of them so far

And they have all worked fine.

[obsidian wigeon]

decent choice for low budget builds

[frigid night]

for sure. I wasn't sure if there was a cheaper PSU because I wouldn't be needing 600w for such a low TDP machine xD

[frigid night]

Will this fit that 580?

[obsidian wigeon]

eh no

also yes

580 is small lol

by today's standards

as for psus i don't see any better choices

unless you want to throw a bomb in there

if it doesn't fit somehow, remove the hdd cages

i doubt it would have issues tho

380mm max gpu length

[frigid night]

alright sweet. I think I might want to add a disc drive in there. I want to assume she has disc games (the old casino gambling style ones)

[obsidian wigeon]

focus g mini does have support for disc drives

[frigid night]

and the focus g mini has the expansion bay for that

[obsidian wigeon]

so that's a plus

[mossy venture]

masterwatt 750 is B tier and $70 for upgradability choice, but that seems pointless

[obsidian wigeon]

pointless for old people pc

otherwise i would choose that

they would never touch it anyway

the 580 is only 270mm

that's well below maximum

[frigid night]

sweet

I think I want rgb fans in it.

[obsidian wigeon]

still can't believe how gpus are so big these days

[frigid night]

I believe that is what sold her on me building her one when she saw the last one I built.

[obsidian wigeon]

hm ya

gotta figure out how to get rgb working tho

cuz board probably lacks rgb headers

unless im wrong

yap, no rgb header

this was an era before rgb became prevalent

[frigid night]

So a sata powered rgb hub that I can hook the reset button to

[obsidian wigeon]

mhm

or one with a remote

there's rgb controllers with remotes

[frigid night]

yeah, but they are spendy for good ones.

[obsidian wigeon]

fair enough

wouldn't want burnt fans

[frigid night]

I'll prob just grab a 3 pack clc argb since cheap, but work good

then the same argb hub I have in my main pc

[obsidian wigeon]

focus g mini has white led fans

might wanna take em off or just place em somewhere that's not the front

[frigid night]

I'll prob take em off and use em for spares like the other 50 fans I have xD

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

they're also kind of ugly anyway

[frigid night]

so far I've saved the day at work a few times because I've had extra fans

[obsidian wigeon]

transparent with white leds

just like 2010

[frigid night]

btw the RGB version of the cooler you put in the list is like $1 cheaper

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

ok

then you can edit that as you go

im half awake

[frigid night]

hm that's weird

the pcpp list takes me to a different listing that's a little more expensiver

than the listing I use to buy that

[obsidian wigeon]

weird

[frigid night]

This is the one I usually buy

yeah odge

oh well

when it gets closer to me ordering, I'll get it all sorted

lol to bad there wasn't a reorder button because this is the last thing I ordered on amazon xD

[fossil cedar]

I'd just do what foxy recommended, if they want rgb, I'd cooling se214xt or TR assassin rgb

[frigid night]

❤️

[fossil cedar]

🫶

[unreal isle]

Finally got my build up and running!

Still need to wait for gpu and I might switch over to a new case but it’s operational :)

[hollow steeple]

Can I use a rx 6600 xt on a 500 watt psu

[mossy venture]

model?

[hollow steeple]

Gigabyte eagle

[mossy venture]

no

of psu

sorry i shoulda specified

[hollow steeple]

Oh thermaltake smart

[mossy venture]

no

that psu is known for catching fire

i would replace that asap

[hollow steeple]

With what

[mossy venture]

this is C tier, 800w, will be fine, it's the bare minimum I'd go right now (cheapest psu over D tier) https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GsNgXL/apevia-prestige-800-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-atx-rp800w

[hollow steeple]

I might as well get a higher wattage while im at it

[mossy venture]

This is B tier 750w https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MVrG3C/thermaltake-power-supply-pstpd0750mpcgus1

it's fine for a 4070 ti and probably a 4080

it's the best priced unit for what you get right now, and would be what I'd buy no matter the gpu right now (as long as the psu isn't too low wattage for it, like 4090 or 3090)

[hollow steeple]

Will it work for a Ryzen 7 5700 and RTX 3070

[mossy venture]

definitely

[hollow steeple]

HOW much is it

[mossy venture]

$69

it's only a few $ more than the prestige

[hollow steeple]

Would having a mid range and sort of high end pc be bad in a deep cool matrexx 40

[mossy venture]

do you already own the case?

[hollow steeple]

Ya

[mossy venture]

is it the mesh or non mesh

[hollow steeple]

Mesh

[mossy venture]

then it's not the best but it'll be fine

as long as everything fits in it

[hollow steeple]

Can i cool ryzen 7 5700 on just a vetroo v5

[mossy venture]

yeah, it won't be the coolest ever but it'll be fine

[heavy atlas]

can someone help me with my windows 11 im on the part where you connect wifi and it says ethernet not connected with no other wifi options

[little osprey]

https://pureinfotech.com/bypass-internet-connection-install-windows-11/

[heavy atlas]

thanks

[heavy atlas]

now it won’t let me connect to the wifi

[strong raft]

Install the antenna & drivers.

[heavy atlas]

what antenna?

and drivers

[little osprey]

You need to install drivers for wifi

They can be found on the manufacturer's website for your board

[livid shadow]

Your board has WiFi, right?

[little osprey]

That also, this is all assuming your board has wifi

[heavy atlas]

idk

[heavy atlas]

what website?

[livid shadow]

Good luck y'all, I need sleep

I'm too tired to be helping politely, sorry

[heavy atlas]

it’s good

[little osprey]

Go ahead and send me the link to what motherboard you have

[heavy atlas]

ok

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7gxbt6/msi-b550-a-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-a-pro

[little osprey]

That board doesn't have wifi

You'll either need to run Ethernet or get a wifi card

[heavy atlas]

damn

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MMjBD3/intel-ax200-80211abgnacax-m2-e-wi-fi-adapter-ax200ngwgdtk

[heavy atlas]

so if i get that i’ll be able to connect to the wifi?

[little osprey]

Yes

[final mountain]

Hey everyone, I’m very new to the channel and also new to pc building. I would like to build a pc rather than buying a prebuilt. Anyone that could lend a hand in choosing parts for a budget of $900 that can run games like call of duty, halo, rainbow six siege and resident evil 4 (remake)? I’ve been watching countless of videos but nothing seems to click, is there a gaming pc for dummies? Or maybe even YouTube videos you would recommend watching? Thanks for any help.

[little osprey]

Alright well I got a few questions

More like two but whatever

Are you going to be needing wifi and do you care if some parts are used?

[final mountain]

I plan on connecting an Ethernet cable to my wifi modem and I have never had a PC for gaming so I wouldn’t really know the difference between new or used parts for performance.

[little osprey]

There's no performance difference, just possible scuffs or whatever

[final mountain]

As long as everything runs as it should but maybe I prefer new over used if I’m being honest.

[little osprey]

I would as well, I'm whipping up a list for you right now

[final mountain]

You are awesome

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NwQ2Q6

It's a little over $900

If you can't do that I would recommend checking used prices on a 6700 XT

Actually wait

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MG4Q3y

[final mountain]

Wow thank you so much. I appreciate your suggestions , have you personally ever bought from this website?

[little osprey]

PC Part Picker is really just a tool in all honesty

However all the stores that they link are trustworthy

[final mountain]

Ok I see. And would you recommend buying part by part. Say every pay check buying a new part and so forth?

[earnest olive]

absolutely not

[little osprey]

You can, but I would recommend buying it all at once so you if you get something DOA you can send it back

[earnest olive]

save up and buy everything at once

psu is sold by a somewhat suspicious looking third party seller

also some money could optionally be saved on the cooler, 13400F isn't a very difficult chip to cool

[little osprey]

It was posted in #tech-deals

[earnest olive]

i dunno, i don't like it

i personally wouldn't

especially with the state of amazon customer service these days...

[final mountain]

All great things to consider

[earnest olive]

used to be able to count on amazon customer service to have your back for stuff like this

but now i wouldn't trust them either

[final mountain]

I was honestly gunning to buy a pre built that was recommended to me from Best Buy.

[earnest olive]

ymmv but i have never seen a good deal on a prebuilt from best buy

[final mountain]

But I’m glad to have help from you guys this is great stuff. It’s making me lean more towards to doing it this way. Problem of all this really is once I get all these parts, how hard would it actually be to put together?

[earnest olive]

it's legos

the hard part of pc building is picking the parts

as long as you read the manual and maybe watch a build video you will be fine

[little osprey]

There's dozens of guides as well

[final mountain]

So is newegg and pcpicker the same thing or can you actually buy from Newegg ?

[earnest olive]

newegg is a retailer, pcpartpicker is just a tool for part lists

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mTy2Q6 i would personally change the list to this

12400F + ddr4 is plenty to keep up with even the upgraded gpu

[final mountain]

Originally my price range would go up to $1100.00. Would that make a difference in parts.

[earnest olive]

rx 6800 is ~35% faster than rx 6700xt

hmm

$1100

[final mountain]

I just can’t afford like super expensive build

[earnest olive]

are you accounting for needing to buy a monitor/keyboard/mouse? or already have those? or separate budget for those?

[final mountain]

Nor would I spend more than that

No I’m not. I wouldn’t know what monitor to but either.

Could that be included in that?

Price range I mean

[earnest olive]

then you probably wanna stick to 900 for the pc and add a monitor

do you already have a keyboard/mouse?

[final mountain]

No I’m completely starting fresh.

I have a HP 32f 31.5 inch display monitor my cousin gave me for free…..would that be of any use? Honestly don’t hold back I want the most bang for my buck

[earnest olive]

you could use it as a secondary monitor but it's not great as a primary gaming monitor

i haven't been in the market for a mouse for years and know nothing about prebuilt keyboards cause i'm a custom keyboards guy so i can't make good recommendations on those

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Fjkv3 slapped a monitor onto the $900 pc though

leaves you $50 for the mouse/keyboard

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JLGznt lol you can get the evga peripherals set

no idea if they are good

[final mountain]

Thank you for everything. Honestly. I have a lot of saving to do. Probably by November I could be able to afford to buy this set up so I’m very eager but I also want to do as much research as I possibly can and this was a huge help. I wish I had the money this instant.

[earnest olive]

you'll need to come back to get the list updated when you have the money

part lists have very short lifespans

market changes often

this list will probably be garbage in 2 weeks

[final mountain]

Good to know!

[serene onyx]

Guys

My cousin wants to build his first pc

And this is what he's chosen so fsr

I'm not rlly sure about it

What yall think

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JMZ7rD

He wants to stay in a budget of around 1k

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

that's just

pls no, lemme fix it

well in a bit, cuz i gotta go eat lel

[serene onyx]

That's what I told him

😭

I said dawg, what is this

[little osprey]

That seems like a wrong pc

[serene onyx]

I told him exactly that

My face was like 😧😰

I'm not really good at making pc builds, but I just knew it wasn't it

[earnest olive]

...?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/93b6nt

I'd get the PSU at the $80 price from wegg

not sure I trust any of the sub $80 pricing on amazon

this would also be fine with a 6800xt https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v4L7YJ/thermaltake-toughpower-grand-rgb-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpg-0650fpcgus-r

[serene onyx]

Bet

Can u change the mobo to a wifi one?

[mossy venture]

ax means wifi, it comes with it

[serene onyx]

Oh ok

Bet

Do I just add any cooler?

[mossy venture]

the 12400f comes with one

[serene onyx]

Ima get him the same cooler I got

[mossy venture]

otherwise I'd go 214xt or pa120 se

[serene onyx]

Makes sense

[frigid night]

Aren't they what?

[serene onyx]

I got this cooler for 20$ I have it on my build currently and it's amazing

[mossy venture]

what cooler?

[frigid night]

PCPartPicker will obtain the best deal among known vendors. Which happens to be Amazon quite a lot.

[serene onyx]

It's a Id cooling cooler

It's pretty good

[mossy venture]

id-214xt?

[serene onyx]

Yes

[frigid night]

You can even set what preferred vendors you want pcpp to pull from. Even omit vendors if you don't want to deal with them.

[serene onyx]

I love it@mossy venture

Oops

Sorry

[mossy venture]

can almost get XTX in a $1500 build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CYWv8r

could with 13400f and ddr4

w/o wifi https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8TPT4s

[serene onyx]

Oh alright

Thanks

[mossy venture]

oh sorry that wasnt for you

just randomly saying that fopr whoever to see

[serene onyx]

Oh ok

[earnest olive]

I mean some of them are

[hasty cove]

anyone reccomend a decent build for making beats/music? No budget yet but most likely around 1k

[mossy venture]

assuming you don't need a gpu, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jgpkv3

could also do different storage and 13700k

ie https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VM6bsL

[lone flame]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mBRvLs

if i wanted to upgrade this build by the end of the year, any suggestions on what i should?

this list is what i built at the start of the month

[obsidian wigeon]

a better gpu i guess?

[frigid night]

Since you just built it.. I'd say nothing

[lone flame]

personally ive thought about fans

[potent portal]

New GPUs will be out by then and it's impossible to tell which you should get

[lone flame]

id like to try a radiator i hear they are good

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

[potent portal]

Nah you don't need liquid cooling

[obsidian wigeon]

no need for aio

[lone flame]

isnt there talk of amd's mid 7000 series dropping this year

[potent portal]

Yep and we have no clue how much they'll cost or how they'll perform

[obsidian wigeon]

yes, but it won't be that good

relative to cost

[lone flame]

why did they skip straight to 7900

should of started at 7000, 7100 etc

[obsidian wigeon]

high skus always launch first

[lone flame]

makes more sense to me lol

[obsidian wigeon]

it's a cycle of product release

[potent portal]

I think the better question is why are there 2 7900s

[lone flame]

thats fair

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[lone flame]

they seem like cool cards

and something id like eventually

[obsidian wigeon]

also with tech naming lesser number equals lesser product

[lone flame]

ong

[obsidian wigeon]

it's easy to understand, IF they even use any normal naming conventions

not add whatever x, xt, xtx to it

[lone flame]

yeah i watched a couple videos last week on gpu naming schemes by both nvidia and amd cause it was something i was curious about

i knew the basics, bigger number is newer gen

but often times the previous gen performs better?

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[potent portal]

Sometimes

[obsidian wigeon]

it depends on which generations are compared

this gen of gpus are just falling into this dilemma

like 4060 not performing any better than its predecessor

[potent portal]

Also for your sanity don't even look at laptop GPUs

[obsidian wigeon]

lol ya

wattages

[lone flame]

ain't no way you are catching me getting a laptop

[obsidian wigeon]

all that headache inducing bs

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/laptop-smoking-fire-burning-lag-gif-19373925

"its portable though"

[obsidian wigeon]

to buy laptops you need to look at reviews

[potent portal]

Laptop "4090" is literally a desktop 4080 with a strict power limit

[obsidian wigeon]

laptops aren't bad if you know what to look for

and not spend for the top stuff

[lone flame]

also while we are gpu topics:

[obsidian wigeon]

i have lived with laptops of many different quality fit and finish

[lone flame]

why does amd fall so behind nvidia when it comes to raytracing? does it just come down to how nvidia builds their cards? why does the 4090 trounce the 7900xtx?

[obsidian wigeon]

ok mostly cheap ones with all plastic, but now i hopped to something proper

[obsidian wigeon]

it's because nvidia had more time to develop for rt

[lone flame]

then again 7900xt and xtx are meant to counter the 4080

[potent portal]

Nvidia just had a couple years head start on ray tracing

[obsidian wigeon]

amd entered slower

so they're naturally behind

that we obviously know

[potent portal]

AMD was more focused on raw power and fixing the driver problems that plagued the 5000 series

[lone flame]

i hope amd gets a beast of a gpu one day, i much prefer them over nvidia cause i can actually reasonably afford them

[obsidian wigeon]

amd just concedes and says 4080 is xtx's target

they already do, just not the best

they fight with value proposition

[lone flame]

yeah cause the 4090 is like 1600$ theres no real reason to compete for that spot when its limited to fewer people that cant spent 3k on a computer

[potent portal]

7950 XTX is a possible future GPU. There was talk about an unlimited power 7900 XTX getting within 5-10% of a 4090.

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

and i think it'll be even hungrier

ah well

psu requirement rises

[lone flame]

i heard something recently (as in today) about a RX 7900 GRE?

[obsidian wigeon]

china exclusive

gre gpus are always china only

they're like an odd hybrid of lesser and higher cards

[lone flame]

yeah this

[obsidian wigeon]

like there was rx 590 gre that was essentially overclocked 580

[lone flame]

not seeing an XT or XTX after an amd card messes with my head

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

7900 gre uses 7900xt core

[lone flame]

one final gpu question before i sleep

why does the rx 7600 exist

it doesnt look like a good card

from what i heard

[obsidian wigeon]

because it is 6600's replacement and does perform okay

problem is 6700xt is cheap as heck right now

so people deem it as bad

it's a matter of pricing woes

[potent portal]

AMD started running out of previous gen cards in that price range so they had to fill it with something, and they knew Nvidia's offering at that bracket was also very weak so they could get away with it

[lone flame]

yes i love mine i think i finally figured out my driver issues with it

[obsidian wigeon]

amd competiting with themselves

it's classic short term problem amd regularly faces

nothing they can do other than wait

[lone flame]

how soon could we see an amd gpu beat a 4090

[obsidian wigeon]

8000

[lone flame]

cause the 7900 was december 2022 right

[obsidian wigeon]

well 2024

[lone flame]

and that was targeted at the 4080?

[obsidian wigeon]

is when radeon 8000 will likely release

[potent portal]

?8ball

Hmm

[obsidian wigeon]

but no exact dates

just estimated like q4 2024

[lone flame]

it just feels weird how they skip past their entire mid range 7000 series (unless we see them later this year)

id rock with a 7700 xt

[obsidian wigeon]

skip? it's usual product launch cycle

[lone flame]

if its anything like the 6700xt

[obsidian wigeon]

nvidia even does this

they launched 4090 first and foremost

[lone flame]

i just became aware of pc building like a year ago lol

[obsidian wigeon]

4080 follows and so on

[lone flame]

[obsidian wigeon]

in an ideal world we would see the entire series launch all at once

but eh

this is reality

[potent portal]

Every launch cycle follows that schema, top couple SKUs first, then 6 months or so later you get upper mid tier, another ~6 months lower mid tier and lower

[obsidian wigeon]

gotta sell the prime product first

[lone flame]

i find it so interesting theres just so much to learn

[obsidian wigeon]

lesser skus comes after

once the lowest skus are out

it's time for next gen to be around the corner

[potent portal]

The only difference this cycle is AMD is trying to get rid of their over-supply of last gen GPUs so they're delaying some newer ones

[obsidian wigeon]

basically 2 years cycle

[lone flame]

SKUs?

[obsidian wigeon]

stock keeping unit

[potent portal]

Product ID

[obsidian wigeon]

or that ^

to make it simple

[potent portal]

Every model has a different SKU, like the 13900K has a different SKU from the 13900KF

[obsidian wigeon]

anyway about laptops

lately there's lots of great stuff available

even something like an acer nitro 5 is able to run heavy stuff without crying for help

[lone flame]

whats the appeal of them compared to actual desktops?

[obsidian wigeon]

portability

not everyone has the space for a pc

[potent portal]

Good luck bringing your desktop on a plane

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

all in one desktops however.. they're pointless

even for schools

not portable with their big screens and all

[potent portal]

I disagree, they're great for old people that refuse to learn the most basic things, like the tower is the computer and not the monitor.

[obsidian wigeon]

fair enough lol

[potent portal]

Soooo many times I've asked a customer, "did you turn the computer off and on again"
"Yes"
I get there and ask them to show me, they turn off the monitor

[obsidian wigeon]

and even refusing how to flip the lid of a laptop open to use it

i just don't understand

old people things i guess

[little osprey]

That's wild

[viral horizon]

yo is this a good build

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Eripeax/saved/FZNDwP

[steady glacier]

nah, im not sure

[steady glacier]

your list is private

[mossy venture]

that is a private list

[analog hearth]

Lol I can see it

[viral horizon]

hol up let me unprivate

there

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Eripeax/saved/FZNDwP

[earnest olive]

what's with the fan controller

psu is overpriced

full price windows is a no

[viral horizon]

then whats a good os

[earnest olive]

i mean you don't have to pay $145 for windows

[viral horizon]

oh

[earnest olive]

you can get cheaper keys from third party sellers or just don't use a key

[viral horizon]

ok

and whats a psu

[earnest olive]

ok but seriously what's up with the fan controller

[viral horizon]

should i still have one?

i mean idk i just thought it would be nice to be able to control my fans easily

?

no?

yes?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mmFDC6

I second fan controller not being worth

Left it in though

But 7600x is better than the 13400f, higher wattage psu and cheaper, better cooler, windows license removed

[hasty cove]

Yo bacca thanks for the part list

[mossy venture]

Np

Any questions about it?

Also if you need a gpu it can definitely be fit in

Just figured for music creation it wasn't needed, good cpu and low latency/fast ram was needed

[hasty cove]

I’m trying to help my dad put something together

[mossy venture]

Separately from that pc?

Or is this the music creation one

[hasty cove]

That’s the music one

I alr have my own pc I just needed part reccomendations

[earnest olive]

you can just do it with software

those controllers are made for old systems with no fan control capabilities

[viral horizon]

where can i find it?

[earnest olive]

you can control fans in BIOS or install software like FanControl

[viral horizon]

bet

[viral horizon]

thank you

[earnest olive]

np

[manic cloak]

this any good used for 180&? https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-XG27AQ-Compatible-DisplayPort-DisplayHDR/dp/B08LCNNGZN

180$*

box looks a bit fricked

[fleet heron]

Is the DeepCool AG620 BK

Worth $50 CAD?

[manic cloak]

how much is the pa120 SE

or just the pa120

[serene onyx]

Is 80°C good?

On my cpu

[manic cloak]

what usage and what cpu

[fleet heron]

Like 40 bucs

But with 10 extra dollars you get a bit more rgb lol

[weary galleon]

I don't think so. You could get a comparable monitor brand new for 200

[manic cloak]

like? 😭

[manic cloak]

imo if you want to get it

otherwise the difference is like, 4 degrees on max load and a few decibels

[weary galleon]

#tech-deals message

[manic cloak]

oh I know about that one, but i’ve been told it’s not as good

compared to like. gigabyte or even older model MSI and asus (m279qpf and g27aq)

[weary galleon]

Yeah I don't know much about the Asus one

Are you buying it local or shipping?

[manic cloak]

both tbh, I just saw it

i’ve missed out on a lot cause my parents are like.. no.

I wanna get a car, but they don’t want me to drive while they told me to go get my permit..

I work 5-8 hour shifts 4 days a week, but I can’t spend. So i’ve been just searching and seeing if somebody would be willing to hold the offer but no luck 😭

[serene onyx]

Like uh 80 or 90%

Rysen 5

[manic cloak]

uh huh.. which one.

[serene onyx]

7500

[manic cloak]

not bad.

[serene onyx]

Ok good

Just had to make sure

[velvet hatch]

building a personal gaming rig for £900 got keyboard and mouse already, would appreciate if anyone could give me some tips to improve it https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MHKLC6

[obsidian wigeon]

psu could be cheaper

[fossil cedar]

Is do this (cooler optional)
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gq9Mfv

[velvet hatch]

yo thanks a lot :), is it not worth getting 3600mhz over 3200?

[fossil cedar]

Not really tbh, especially since my list has 32gb instead of 16 which I'd advise going forward on any mid-high end builds

[velvet hatch]

alright cheers then, ill probably go for that

are the default case fans plenty for cooling too or would you recommend i buy some?

[fossil cedar]

The default ones are good enough, if you wanted to fill out the case you could grab the c12c fans you had in your list they're pretty cheap and decent

[velvet hatch]

thanks a lot then, have a good one :)

[tawny fiber]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/VghQ3y

anyone can refine this builda bit?

[fossil cedar]

No problem glad to help

Jfc the u12s price is horrific

[fossil cedar]

How tied to the north are they?

[tawny fiber]

very except that could use some trimming

[fossil cedar]

Okay so they want the north

[fossil cedar]

They want rgb or meh?

[tawny fiber]

just the north otherstuff not really

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[fossil cedar]

Personally if they have more budget I'd get a 7700
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LKbJzf

[velvet hatch]

i just recall seeing something about ryzen cpus working best with 3600 mhz

[cyan ravine]

Ryzen scales with frequency to certain limits

So yes, this is true

That said, it's only worth a couple $ extra in a ram kit at most

If you're gonna spend more than let's say, $10? Stretching to 3600 ram, don't bother imo

The gains aren't worth enough

[fossil cedar]

I'd say 5$ tbh

[cyan ravine]

Yeah I'm being a little generous

$5 makes more sense imo too

[frigid night]

The way I look at this though is.. $5 is a cheeseburger at mcdonalds that would only last me a few hours.. Even though that $5 would only net me small gains.. at least I'd have that small gains for much longer than that cheeseburger.

Also. Don't listen to me atm.

[formal girder]

$5 ram or $5 cholesterol

[fossil cedar]

thats a decent way of looking at it but im saying its not worth more than 5$, if its less then sure

[cyan ravine]

Can someone pin this

[vague oracle]

A cheeseburger is tasty tho

Ram, not so much

I’m also a fatass

[frigid night]

mood

[earnest olive]

speak for yourself

there's a reason they call it chips

[leaden mauve]

do you know my favorite flavor of chips

mmmmm

[earnest olive]

love me some fish and g-die

[fossil cedar]

im more of a straight out of the fryer with some salt, maybe some garlic mayo guy but sure

[earnest olive]

i think MFR works better with that personally

[vague oracle]

F-die>

[frigid night]

Garlic Aoli 😋

[vague oracle]

Fish and f-die is where it’s at

[cyan ravine]

I just realised I've seen this picture 1000 times

[fossil cedar]

idk why you guys dont have garlic mayo

[cyan ravine]

Sweet onion sauce bois

[vague oracle]

We do?

[fossil cedar]

but aoli is basically mayo but made with oil instead of egg right?

[cyan ravine]

Aoli slaps

Reo fellow garlic boi

[frigid night]

❤️

[fossil cedar]

its deff a lot more rare then because ive talked to ppl who have never even heard of garlic mayo before

[cyan ravine]

(I carry a boatload of gum)

💀

[frigid night]

I grew up with real garlic in almost everything we ate.

[vague oracle]

…I’m sick

[fossil cedar]

what?

[cyan ravine]

What

[vague oracle]

I’m high on anesthesics rn and misread that

[leaden mauve]

yw

[earnest olive]

not enough tbh

[vague oracle]

You need mo chips

[frigid night]

oo how come?

[vague oracle]

Dentist appointment

[cyan ravine]

I'm also as much learned on ddr3 since the first time I saw it

[vague oracle]

DDR5>>>

[cyan ravine]

That's ddr2

[vague oracle]

Close enough

[cyan ravine]

True

[vague oracle]

Both overrated

[fossil cedar]

due thats clearly ddr1, you need to go back to maths

2/2 is 1

[cyan ravine]

But pc2-4200 is ddr2

If you snap in half...ddr1?

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/big-head-shaq-manly-knows-algebra-gif-12056072

[cyan ravine]

Smh even ddr3 can't do that but ddr4 can

There ain't no dang ddr1.5 bruh

Worst gen ever

[frigid night]

but.. if you snapped ddr3 in half.. wouldn't you have just invented ddr1.5?

[cyan ravine]

[frigid night]

just take a ddr3 mobo and snap in half.. bam ddr1.5 mobo

[cyan ravine]

If I snap my ddr5 in half I could make ddr2.5

[frigid night]

ooo

[cyan ravine]

@leaden mauve are you getting all this???

We about to make millions

[frigid night]

He to busy staring into the eyes of the hot nurse holding his hand cracking cute little jokes.

[cyan ravine]

Are we going back to this

[frigid night]

Or it's the anesthetics

[frigid night]

[cyan ravine]

That's alec btw not far

[frigid night]

oh right

[cyan ravine]

Far is busy eating g die

Close enough

[frigid night]

lame

[cyan ravine]

Alec has been to the doctor, soon far will be for ingesting RAM

So close enough

[frigid night]

them chips are gonna wreak havoc all the way down and out

[cyan ravine]

It's why we love him!

(it's not but idk what else to say at this point)

[leaden mauve]

[vague oracle]

😉

…that’s half the reason why I’m here

[jagged ember]

Lmao

[manic cloak]

wouldn't ram still work if you snapped it in half? you can still insert both parts in the slot (ik it's not gonna work)

[proper night]

I am drafting a build I intend to make as a gift for a friend.

I have a RTX 2060 Super to pair with it and plan to add some extra case fans.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ThelVadam4321/saved/hWncHx

For anyone wondering about the name, he's a big Ace Combat fan, and Ace Combat Zero is his favorite.

[fossil cedar]

I'd change almost everything there's loads of overpriced things, mainly the usb ram, motherboard and very much the power supply, and I'd change the case too, how much do they want the cd reader to be internal?

[potent portal]

Here comes the snow...

That final battle was easily my favorite in the series

[proper night]

I'm keeping an internal CD reader for the sake of PS2 emulation. He's not computer savvy so I am going to set it up with emulators ready to go so he can just drop in his PS2 collection and play them with little hassle.

The case was chosen for the optical drive bays and lack of glass side panels. Neither he nor I are fond of that trend in case design. I did find a cheaper listing for the case on Newegg than is shown in PCPartsPicker.

I'm not sure what you mean by USB RAM. The RAM kit was selected to give 16GB of DDR4 at a reasonable price. It's definitely better than what I paid for my last build (which was admittedly Thanksgiving of 2020).

If you know a better option for a B550 MOBO that still has WiFi capability, I'm open to suggestions.

The choice of PSU is both for wattage overhead and my positive experience with Corsair PSUs.

[mossy venture]

can use a USB dvd/cd thing i believe https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C6zQ3y

[proper night]

https://www.newegg.com/black-thermaltake-versa-h21-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811133247

Here's my case link

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i wouldn't get that case

It's fine but lacking

[proper night]

Thanks for the suggestions

[proper night]

Lacking what?

[fossil cedar]

Just airflow, quality, fans

Like you can get a fractal focus 2 for the same price basically

Much nicer case

[proper night]

My priorities for the case are no glass panels, optical bays, and air flow. The trouble is finding good cases with those features that are in stock anywhere.

[mossy venture]

why is the glass panel a negaitve? if you don't like it odds are you're not looking at the pc

[proper night]

Weight, fragility, aesthetics. We like what we like. Also I plan to spray paint that side red as part of the theme of the build.

https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-focus-g-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352069

I did consider this, but I'm not a fan of the glass.

How are Thermalake PSUs quality-wise?

[fossil cedar]

@proper night https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DZTQ3y

Model matters not brand

Especially for power supplies

[vague oracle]

Pretty sure that’s acrylic, not glass

[potent portal]

You can paint glass too

[proper night]

I think the couger case will do nicely.

[fossil cedar]

Yeah the one i sent will hit all your requirements

And it'll run nice and quiet with the fans and cooler i added

Plus more ram which is optimal these days

[proper night]

Better than the stock cooler?

[fossil cedar]

Much

Deff worth 19$

[mossy venture]

patos list is definitely far better

[proper night]

What about going for Intel for the SSD? I picked the Samsung because I've heard they're the most reliable and I myself am a Western Digital user.

[mossy venture]

samsung prices are extremely overpriced

the 980 pro is a good ssd sure, but it's more expensive than the xs70 that is similar or better

unless you're doing tasks that actually require high write/read speeds like 4k video transfer and whatever other workstation tasks like that, a high end ssd is useless

[proper night]

His use case will primarily be PC games and emulation and possibly VR.

[mossy venture]

for gaming sometimes gen 4 drives to worse than gen 3, though I'm not sure what you're doing

yeah he won't gain anything from a gen 4 drive

[proper night]

And probably basic productivity.

I think he and his wife only have a single aging macbook between them so this will be a step up regardless

[proper night]

Thank you very much for that list

What about going for 600 watts over 650?

Am I being over cautious going for 650?

[mossy venture]

350w would be fine for a 5600 and 2060 super, but the main reason is price

and model is just as important as wattage if not more important

as a bad psu can kill a system

[fossil cedar]

The one i recommended was just the cheapest good one so that'd be pointless

[mossy venture]

the gx2 is a worse psu than the corsair RM, but it is incredibly more reasonably priced and still a solid unit, and will be more than fine with a 2060 super

[proper night]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v4L7YJ/thermaltake-toughpower-grand-rgb-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpg-0650fpcgus-r

What about this one?

About $10 more give or take.

[proper night]

The Newegg PSU calculator suggests 600. Are they unreliable?

[fossil cedar]

It's roughly the same

Psu calculators are iffy at best

And they mean, 600 or larger

Power is pulled not pushed

So assuming the same psu model and same parts under the same load, an 850w will use the same power as an 500w psu ( assuming it's under 500w ofc)

[proper night]

I thought you wanted to have about 150% of total max possible load

So there was a safety margin

[mossy venture]

doesn't matter much

4090 is fine on an 850w psu

[proper night]

Think the micro ATX board will have enough fan headers for all the fans?

[mossy venture]

worst case scenario use a splitter cable

[proper night]

Are there many games on the horizon that would make 32 GB of memory more necessary?

Besides the latest MS Flight Sim?

[mossy venture]

yes

[proper night]

Thank you all for your time and expertise. I think this is going to be an excellent build.

I plan to give it a full themed paint job that evoke's Pixy's plane. I may share photos when finished.

I don't suppose any of you know a better way of getting a Windows 10 Key than buying directly from the the MS website do you?

[mossy venture]

you dont need one

[proper night]

Is it possible to make a custom boot splash screen?

[obsidian wigeon]

You'd have to mod the bios, so not easily

[proper night]

Ah. Well, I don't plan to go that far.

[obsidian wigeon]

Unless you wanna change the logo in windows during boot

That's doable

[proper night]

But I thought it'd be cool if I could use the Ace Combat Zero start screen

[heavy atlas]

where do i install my wifi card on my pc??

[potent portal]

What wifi card?

[heavy atlas]

intel wifi 6 kit

[potent portal]

PCIe? M.2?

Maybe a picture of it if you don't know?

[heavy atlas]

huh?

idk where to plug it in at

[potent portal]

Right and there's 3 different possibilities, each with their own interface

[heavy atlas]

ok

so what do you need to know?

[strong raft]

if a "typical" pcie model:

[heavy atlas]

that’s what it looks like

[potent portal]

Ok so that's a M.2 E+A key

Motherboards usually have M key and/or B key slots

You'd need an adapter

Unless the motherboard came with wifi and that's the interface it uses

Here's what I mean

[strong raft]

POssibly hidden right behind the gpu, but I'm not sure. No guarantee

[heavy atlas]

i don’t see it

like i’ve looked all over the mother board

can i take a picture and one of y’all tell me where it’s at?

[potent portal]

You probably don't have the right keyed slot

[heavy atlas]

wym

so i bought the wrong one?

[potent portal]

It's pretty rare outside of laptops to get E key slots

[heavy atlas]

i need to return it?

[potent portal]

Or get an adapter

Either way

[heavy atlas]

that’s everything it came with

so which one do i get?

[potent portal]

You can get an adapter like this https://www.amazon.com/M-2-PCIe-Converter-Bluetooth-2010-2016/dp/B083YW3RM3/ref=psdc_13983711_t2_B07WBXP632
Or another card that uses PCIe like this https://www.amazon.com/Ubit-Ubit-AX200/dp/B07Y2MYK4N?th=1

[heavy atlas]

i need one that will give me wifi bc i just built my pc and it don’t have wifi

[potent portal]

You can return what you got, and get the second one I linked. That has wifi 6 and bluetooth.

[heavy atlas]

ok

[heavy atlas]

so will this one work for my mother board??

@potent portal

[frigid night]

He already answered that in the last message he sent.

Given the info he knows about your mobo, by telling you to get the one he linked, he confirmed that it would work with your mobo.

[heavy atlas]

ok thanks

[livid shadow]

Boyos and Inbetweeners, someone please double check me for insanity, but if I wanted to replace my ROG STRIX B450e mobo, I'd need an AM4 board, and for maximum speed and everything else, preferably a PCIE 4 board. Would a GIGABYTE X570S work?

Or is it cursed with the Gigabyte curse of being aggressively average

A GIGABYTE X570S AORUS ELITE AX, more specifically

[cyan ravine]

Any reason for it?

Your b450 is essentially am4 endgame already

[livid shadow]

Remember how I had GPU troubles?

If I have the same ones again

I'm suspecting a board fault

[potent portal]

"Maximum speed" yeah you'd need B550 or X570, but the vast majority of people don't need PCIe 4.0

[livid shadow]

And getting a replacement B450 really isn't an option because noone sels it here.

[cyan ravine]

I see

[potent portal]

Heck I was still running X470 up until a little bit ago when it died on me. I got it replaced in warranty with a X570.

[cyan ravine]

I'd just get the tuf a520m then

No need to go overkill

Oh yeah now I remember

The 3060ti 3090 stuff

[livid shadow]

Yepyep

Also need type c on the back for my audio

[potent portal]

What region again? So I can see what's available near you

[cyan ravine]

A few usb-a to usb-c adapters fix that

[livid shadow]

Czech Republic

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeah true

I forgot to check region again

[livid shadow]

I'd rather not get more adapters, that's an active power hub, filled up

[cyan ravine]

[livid shadow]

Between VR, 3D Printer and all the other peripherals I have more cables than most people, I'd wager

[potent portal]

https://www.alza.cz/gaming/asus-tuf-gaming-b450-plus-ii-d6219598.htm?banner_id=34809&idp=13353

[livid shadow]

Aw yeah, saw that one too when I was looking

[potent portal]

Or the micro atx version, little cheaper https://www.alza.cz/asus-tuf-gaming-b450m-plus-ii-d6219600.htm?idp=13353&banner_id=34809

[livid shadow]

But, like, stop me if I sound insane, but getting the X570S elite while more expensive should be a bit more stable

In the longer run at least

Those 3 M.2 slots also look very appealing on the X570s

[potent portal]

No it won't be more stable

X570S is known to have a lot of issues actually

[livid shadow]

Fekh, the IO is like, perfect too

You should've said it's got lots of issues straight up

[potent portal]

B550 is usually perfect for 95% of people

[cyan ravine]

AM4 is AM4

[potent portal]

X570 you have to worry about the chipset fan failing

[cyan ravine]

No chipset is better

💀

[obsidian wigeon]

AM4 is just AM4 yes

[cyan ravine]

S has no fan

[potent portal]

X570S is the black sheep of AM4, very few made it

I was getting to that lol

[obsidian wigeon]

x570safe

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[obsidian wigeon]

cuz no fan to break

[cyan ravine]

But yeah x570 is not any better

[livid shadow]

Fekh

[cyan ravine]

You fall into a marketing trap if you believe it's more anything apart from more pcie lanes for extra gpus/ssd's etc

[potent portal]

The issue is X570S was such a short run no one really bothers to fix the issues it does have. Like the USB disconnect that was solved on most other chipsets.

[obsidian wigeon]

I even now throw A520 or A620 boards into parts lists

It matters none

Apart from pcie lanes I guess

[cyan ravine]

AM4 just isn't worth more than pennies now

[potent portal]

If they want 3 M.2 slots A520 isn't on the radar

[obsidian wigeon]

ye im aware

but if it's am5

there's a few

[potent portal]

Yeah A620 has a couple options

[obsidian wigeon]

the glorious pro rs for one

[livid shadow]

It's AM4, for my 5700X

[obsidian wigeon]

all there is to a board is

does it work good? are vrams good? is the io and available connectivity enough for your usage?

oh and yeah, if the bios is stable or not

that's just it

high end boards are just a gimmick for more niche stuff, or even just plain needless

[livid shadow]

Well, I kinda do need WiFi, preferably 3 M.2 slots and more-than-average-of-USB

[cyan ravine]

Maybe time for a vision board

Or am5

[potent portal]

The issue is there's not a lot of boards available in your area that meet those criteria

[livid shadow]

I really don't want to be upgrading CPU rn

[potent portal]

For M.2 slots it's easy to add more

The adapter card will be a LOT cheaper than spending triple on a mobo

[cyan ravine]

I get that, but also the value proposition of flipping the cpu and mobo in turn for getting better stuff instead with what you want might be the wiser option than the gold standard board

[livid shadow]

The b450e I have rn would only do one extra m2 from an adapter card.

[potent portal]

It'll do 4 in one slot, you just need the right adapter

[cyan ravine]

Investing into a high end am4 board in 2023 is not the wisest idea

[livid shadow]

I get that and I really don't wanna be doing that

[cyan ravine]

Also AM5 albeit has had a rocky ride has just been better for the most part

[potent portal]

The delay that AMD did putting out AM5 really helped. They were only able to delay thanks to the 5800X3D being so incredibly awesome.

[cyan ravine]

Like, say for the price of an x570s, you get a cheap a620m with almost the same amount of usb, and a cpu upgrade

[livid shadow]

It'd mean getting new brackets for my AIO, and a new CPU too, and the prices aren't as acceptable for something near my current performance. And I would be wanting to upgrade with my CPU, if I'm investing into it and then it's a mess.

[cyan ravine]

No new brackets

Am5 is am4 compatible by design

[livid shadow]

What

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[cyan ravine]

In fact it's a problem of am5

[obsidian wigeon]

hence the ihs is ungodly thick

it's so thick cooling isn't that great

[cyan ravine]

It's the reason why am5 is just such a hot cpu lmao

They gave people what they wanted and made am4 compatible

[obsidian wigeon]

lots of heat has to build up first then transfer

what happens when innovation is stifled

[livid shadow]

Yeah, no, AM5 chips are still too expensive here to consider rn

[cyan ravine]

Alr fair enough

[potent portal]

What that means is AMD has kept cooler compatibility for over 15 years. You can use a FM2+ cooler on AM5.

[obsidian wigeon]

lol ya

[cyan ravine]

As long as you aren't spending am5 cash for am4 it's fine ig lol

[obsidian wigeon]

It's just, crazy to think about

[livid shadow]

Aren't the lanes filled up with a GPU in there too?

[potent portal]

There's adapters that can automatically allocate bandwidth instead of distributing lanes

[livid shadow]

Ooooh

[potent portal]

They're a little more expensive because they have more intelligent controllers

[livid shadow]

I'd imagine. Huh, didn't think something like that was a thing

Since I didn't see any when looking:(

Like, a mobo is only being replaced if I have the same issues with the FE3090 I'm getting end of the week/next week

[potent portal]

They're a relatively recent invention, last maybe 2-3 years or so

[livid shadow]

Oooh

I sure don't see any though, sadly :(

[potent portal]

21 SSDs in one slot https://youtu.be/IFwFDZDQWAA

[livid shadow]

Hell, I'd be happy with 4 lmao

[potent portal]

That thing costs $2800 but you get the idea lol

[livid shadow]

Yuh

[cyan ravine]

@livid shadow do you use sata?

[livid shadow]

Still got SATA space left, but never installed a sata drive

aaand intimidated and I wanna stick to what I know

also speedy storage make brain go brrrt

[cyan ravine]

Sata is ez

Also plenty speedy, just move stuff there when ur done

[livid shadow]

yeah but I forget to

[cyan ravine]

Lol

It's an alternative anyway

Better than hyperfocusing on a board cos it has 3 m.2, then 4 m.2, then 5 etc

That quickly becomes a huge fortune

[livid shadow]

Yyyyyywaaaaghh

Like I said

If I don't get the same troubles I had before?

I'm sticking with the board

[cyan ravine]

Hope it's fine yea

I mean tbh b450e is decent anyway

[livid shadow]

Oh for sure

I love the thing

[frigid night]

I just found a brand new Corsair RGB hub in my closet of PC parts... I have no idea where it came from lol

[mortal rampart]

My pc isn't turning on 🧍🏽

[potent portal]

That's like finding a $20 in your pants pocket.
And if it's the hub that uses the proprietary connector, it's like finding that $20 after you washed your pants and it's all crumpled up.