building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

I might be wrong but that's exactly how condesers explode

those I saw exploding at least

[potent portal]

That's outside my expertise so I'll take your word on it

[little osprey]

same for me, that's what my teacher explained when he made one explode

(he wasn't trying to make it explode)

funny day ngl

[runic spruce]

It’s also best to not charge it past 80% and not let go below 20% on lithium batteries

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sleepy-cute-gif-5852125

[little osprey]

"if something explodes it's the examiners fault"
he checks one circuit and says its fine:
the circuit explodes

[potent portal]

Your battery will live longest following these guidelines yes

[little osprey]

"It's all your fault for making the circuit wrong"

[runic spruce]

But but the explosion was a feature*

Jk

[little osprey]

bro made the problem

look 100x worse

than it really was

bro started getting the fire extinguisher

(it wasn't even on fire)

then said to everyone leave the room

(it was fully controlled and it was a condenser of the size of less than half a pinky)

and said it was a huge loss

(it was less than a cent)

[runic spruce]

True but it’s always best to choose the safest option even if it was extreme

[little osprey]

IT WAS A BREADBOARD BROOO

HOW BAD CAN IT BE

[dim forge]

depending on the potency that is being fed

could be pretty bad

[little osprey]

imma be honest

idk

I a photo of my circuit

working

[dim forge]

those electrolytic condensers can pop if it's in reverse polarity

a friend of mine did that in class

[potent portal]

Liquid caps are tasty when they pop

You should lick them

[dim forge]

ewww

I've always been scared of electronic components

[little osprey]

I am aswell

but I needed to work with them in case I wanted to pass highschool

[potent portal]

I'm the opposite, I put a paperclip into an outlet when I was 4 and I never lost that curiosity

[little osprey]

I remember when I did a 74ls32

in a breadboard

[potent portal]

That outlet is still black and broken to this day lol

[little osprey]

I wanted to kms

I hate it

the logic ports are worse than they look like

[potent portal]

I loved the look on my lab partner's face when we were learning how to use multimeters, and I probed the 120V outlet

[dim forge]

I had a cheap fake version of a psp console

tha back came off and the circuit was visible

I plugged the charger and touched the circuit

[little osprey]

[dim forge]

the zap it gave was enough to never mess again with electricity

that and me being humbled by completely obliterating like 30 fuses in electronic class

[little osprey]

my friend did it

broke a multimeter

somehow

bro was built diff

[dim forge]

maybe he just burned the fuses

[potent portal]

Or put AC mode on a DC circuit

[dim forge]

yeah that

[little osprey]

hmmm felas

6950xtx

[potent portal]

What about it

[little osprey]

or 4070

[potent portal]

6950 any day of the week

Unless you live in germany where the electricity is like 1 eur/kWH

[runic spruce]

I remember sticking my finger between the prongs of an apple charger and just made my finger feel funny

Doesn’t like really hurt tho

[potent portal]

I used to like licking 9 volt batteries

[runic spruce]

Well it does but not like normal pain from stubbing a toe or something

[runic spruce]

Your cells hate u

[potent portal]

I was like 9 lol, I liked the tingle

[runic spruce]

9 volt batteries r not a good energy bar supplement

[runic spruce]

Did u not have soda lol

Or sparking water

[potent portal]

I was never a huge fan of soda

To this day I'll maybe have one every week or two

[little osprey]

I asked my mother if she thought it would be a good thing to buy

she just said

do as you want

it's your money

[potent portal]

https://youtu.be/Iy3ikm8MxOM

Their charts are a little hard to read but this means the 4070 is about 15% slower than the 6950 on average

[runic spruce]

Still healthier then batteries lol

[potent portal]

Hey I got my electrolytes without intaking any calories at all, I call it a win

[little osprey]

oh then we bing chilling

[little osprey]

I did it

updated my bios drivers

I think

[potent portal]

Do you have CPU-Z? I can verify real quick with the mainboard tab

[little osprey]

I'm just installing

I need to sleep after this

ngl

almost 8am

I think that's it yeah

[lone flame]

I have a 6700 XT now. If I wanted to stick to team red and upgrade in the future, what would be a viable card? 6900?

[cyan ravine]

Yeah 6950 would be a decent step up

If we go by sales price

[weary galleon]

Though in the future™️ there may be a better option

[little osprey]

so guuuuys

about the gpu

this is the mininum psu reqs

[potent portal]

Don't worry about it

[little osprey]

ohh okok

I was looking cuz I need to change my current case anyways

[potent portal]

Those are rarely accurate, and they want you to buy bigger capacity than you really need anyway

[little osprey]

the gpu is way too big for my current case

[potent portal]

2 reasons to recommend more: kickbacks from the PSU companies, and extra breathing room for worst case scenarios like running a 13900k with it

[little osprey]

aahhhhh

yeaah I just checked in a wattage calculator

662

and 677 with the 5800x3d

[potent portal]

Assuming the CPU and GPU are running at 100% power yes, but it's quite likely that the CPU would be at about 50% power at most when gaming

[little osprey]

idk sometimes my cpu just decides to go 90%

I got hella lucky

as soon as the pc finished the bios update

the power in my city had a spike

[potent portal]

Oh man that's scary close

Does your board have flashback? There's usually a little button on the back if so

[little osprey]

idk tbh, but that's why I'm scared of this kind of things

I always get the worse luck

[potent portal]

If you do have flashback you can easily recover from a bad flash, you just need a usb drive

A lot of X570 boards came with it

[little osprey]

well

this update will force me to readd thermal paste

haven't done it in 3 years

why??? I'm lazy

[potent portal]

It's about time to do it anyway then. A good paste will last 2-3 years.

[little osprey]

and bcs my roommate used all my paste

[potent portal]

Cheap oily stuff would be more like 6mo-1yr

[little osprey]

what are good paste?

[potent portal]

Generally I recommend Arctic MX-4

It's cheap and performs within a few degrees of some of the best pastes

[little osprey]

the only I can buy in tech stores here is the nplay one

that doesn't look good

other than that I'd need to buy on amazon or smth

[little osprey]

what would be the best then?

[potent portal]

That's a matter of great debate

[little osprey]

considering that I'll have a cpu that heats like it's finna do a whole course meal

[potent portal]

I'm probably missing a couple but MX-6, NT-H2, PK-3, kryonaut (NOT extreme) are all some of the best you can get

https://switchtechnology.pt/produto/pasta-termica-arctic-mx-6-2g/

Or twice the size for some extra just in case you want to do your GPU or something later https://www.globaldata.pt/pasta-termica-arctic-mx-6-4g-actcp00080a

[little osprey]

I'll check it out then

well, omw to the bank

[manic cloak]

Fbm moment

no clue if it’s supposed to be like that but I don’t think it is

[little osprey]

NZXT case

Checks out

[manic cloak]

air cooler positioning

[little osprey]

ive seen worse

the same position

but there wasn't no heat pipe

cooler was just hanging around

it was an intel cooler

[graceful saffron]

it is

that specific cooler can only be mounted that way

it's super dumb

[manic cloak]

yikes

mmmm warm air flow, not cool

“Barely” used 6800xt for 400$ is fair right? They don’t have the box cause they tossed it out.

[earnest olive]

not bad, not exceptional

[manic cloak]

unfortunately. lady bought it for her boyfriend but he never used, shame tbh

[earnest olive]

damn

is she single now

[manic cloak]

no clue if it has any problems

[manic cloak]

nope

they still posing together in her profile

should I just bring my rig to wherever to test it? 💀

[earnest olive]

yeah

I brought a test bench to starbucks to test a used gpu I was buying

[manic cloak]

but I would have to probably ddu and etc beforehand right

[earnest olive]

my gf at the time had to come with me, said she had to fight off all the other women that would be throwing themselves at me

6650xt to 6800xt? unlikely

should be able to plug and play

[manic cloak]

oh

[earnest olive]

would recommend you do a fresh install after getting home

[manic cloak]

well uh

[earnest olive]

but for just testing it there, should be fine

[manic cloak]

i’m sitting in a 3/22 version of 6650xt drivers tho

trying to fix that “pa-300” gavin was having

[earnest olive]

6650xt is a newer card than 6800xt, it'll detect

[manic cloak]

gotcha

[earnest olive]

I'd recommend loading up superposition benchmark onto your pc beforehand

and googling an expected score for a 6800xt

also get hwinfo to make sure the card's thermals are fine, it's hitting expected power targets, etc.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/500102940078505984/919773341064265838/20211205_102431.jpg

rate my setup

I should have gotten my gf to pose with it lmao

[manic cloak]

superposition?

[earnest olive]

just google it

[manic cloak]

alr

and hwinfo

[earnest olive]

nice benchmark that runs offline and gives you a score

I use it for my used gpu tests

you can probably tell but I do this a lot lol

[vague oracle]

You do? Never would’ve guessed

[manic cloak]

^

but i’d still need a new psu likely unless I undervolt my cpu

13600k + 6800xt on a 750w?

[earnest olive]

that's plenty

[manic cloak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f2Q3zf

ah

[vague oracle]

I was running a 6800xt and 5900x on a 750 without any issues

You’ll be fine

[little osprey]

I can't decide

[earnest olive]

I ran 13700k 3090 on 750w with 3090 flashed to xoc vbios

[little osprey]

between the white snow lian li o11 dynamic

[manic cloak]

ah

[earnest olive]

also ran 3600x + 3080 + 3070 on 650w lol

[little osprey]

and the white lian li small o11 dynamic

[manic cloak]

jesus 💀

[earnest olive]

that b tier 650w was fighting for its life

[remote gale]

where can i go to check the compatability of my build?

[dim forge]

pcpartpicker usually works fine

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/

[little osprey]

Hey @mossy venture remember when you were helping me build my PC that one time?

And in the end you recommend me getting the RTX 4070?

....With my 5600x

[mossy venture]

possibly?

why?

[little osprey]

Ain't it gon like....

Bottleneck?

[mossy venture]

the 5600 is fine with a 3090 at 1440p

the 4070 loses to the 3090

even at 1080p it won't be a big bottleneck

[little osprey]

But I remember you telling me that the 4070 should be fine for me with that specific CPU

But I am now noticing that there's a bottleneck between the CPU and GPU

[mossy venture]

there will always be a bottleneck

in some games the cpu will be it

in others, the gpu

[little osprey]

Ain't it recommended for PC builders to always balance things out between the CPU and GPU?

[mossy venture]

yes

which is what the 5600x and 4070 do

that is a balanced build

you can ask others here if you would like to

pato, felix, foxy, sips, forks, pretty much anyone who frequents these channels

[little osprey]

I'll have them see this then

[mossy venture]

dude

my guy

bottleneck calculators are bull crap.

if you dont want to listen to me dont

[little osprey]

It's not that I don't want to listen to you

[mossy venture]

but im not going to keep having this abck and forth discussion that will go nowhere

[little osprey]

Bruh then show me how they are both balanced

This is the first thing that comes up on Google

[mossy venture]

bottlenecks are impossible to avoid

[little osprey]

Not necessarily

[mossy venture]

using the 4070 at 1080p is stupid anyways

[mossy venture]

my dude

it is IMPOSSIBLE for a cpu and gpu to work perfectly together in every single scenario

[little osprey]

The Ryzen 7 5800x with the 3070 TI.........

[mossy venture]

the cpu limiting the 4070 by 10% in a single game at a resolution that is extremely easy to run on even a 3060 isn't an example

[mossy venture]

then the gpu is bottlenecking the cpu

I'm done with this conversation.

[little osprey]

Anyone wanna fill in on this?

[vague oracle]

Bottleneck calculators are basically just random number generators

You’re going to have a bottleneck somewhere in the system no matter what

No bottleneck = infinite performance

Literally anything can be a bottleneck in a system, gpu bottlenecking cpu, ram bottlenecking cpu, cpu bottlenecking gpu, etc

[little osprey]

Either way, with the 5600x and the RTX 4070....as much as everything will have some sort of bottleneck, don't these 2 components have a Jurassic bottleneck?

[vague oracle]

No?

[mossy venture]

thank you alec

[vague oracle]

@earnest olive was literally running a 12100f with a 3090 without issues

Tuned ram but still

[little osprey]

Obviously there won't be issues, but the GPU is limited on what it can do

[vague oracle]

Not really

Unless you’re playing like low 1080p or 720p

Depends a lot on the resolution and graphic settings

CPU matters a lot less the higher resolution you go

[little osprey]

Can the Ryzen 5 5600x even handle 1440p gameplay?

[vague oracle]

Read this

[mossy venture]

1440p is more gpu focused than cpu focused

the 5600x is fine with a 7900xtx at 4k lmao

hell 3600 is fine with a 4070 at 1440p

[vague oracle]

Cyberpunk 2077 1440p

[earnest olive]

(don't recommend this to average users, tuned ram literally doubled the 12100f performance, the bottleneck would have been massive without it)

[vague oracle]

Just an example, wasn’t recommending it

[graceful saffron]

No

5600x is miles better than a 3600/2700x and those two have minimal bottlenecking with 3080

like 5600x is sooo much better

why would it be any different with a 4070

[mossy venture]

2700x definitely has a decent bottleneck with the 3080, it's single core is comparable to a 4770

the two have similar multi core but 3600 is a good ways ahead in single

[graceful saffron]

lol no

I've tested this myself

with XMP ram sure

i shoudl have said that

[mossy venture]

i stand corrected

[vague oracle]

Damn 2700x and 3600 are that close to each other?

[mossy venture]

i dont think in real world perf they are

but i definitely thought the gap was bigger

[graceful saffron]

yes

[graceful saffron]

they are

2700X OC vs 3600 OC it curbstomps

cause 1.38v is safe ~ i only ever tested upto 1.325v and that was 4.2ghz all

i could have gotten 4.3 likely

single they're super similar with OC

but the multi stacks

[little osprey]

For all we could know that could be UserBenchmark

A single Googled question isn't a great basis for a claim

There are dozens of factors when it comes to identifying a "Bottleneck"

[manic cloak]

this isn’t a bad barebones build with gigabyte 3070 is it? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QNMnmr

[earnest olive]

is 550 for that case including the gpu and mobo only?

[little osprey]

Yeah

I think

Lemmie find the deal RQ

[earnest olive]

hmmm

[little osprey]

@earnest olive https://www.microcenter.com/product/664311/l

[earnest olive]

valuing the case at 100 and mobo at 150

that's a 3070 at 300

that's not too bad

[little osprey]

I mean don't 3070's go for $300 used?

[manic cloak]

the mobo, gpu and case

[earnest olive]

yeah well

obviously the case includes the case

[earnest olive]

no

[manic cloak]

mobos at 176$ rn

[earnest olive]

good price for a used 3070 is like, 250

[earnest olive]

it's last gen though

[manic cloak]

z690 is still a good board?

[earnest olive]

should be worth a little less than retail when you can get z790 boards for not much more

z790 is a lot better at ddr5 oc in general

won't matter if you run xmp

[manic cloak]

true

[earnest olive]

but i don't like valuing last gen products at retail

[manic cloak]

cheapest z790 is an asrock

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MDGbt6/asrock-z790-pg-lightning-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-pg-lightning

no wifi though

[earnest olive]

that board is pretty good

but not like you have a choice if you buy bundle

[manic cloak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xXxRsY/gigabyte-z790-ud-ax-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-ud-ax

[earnest olive]

just saying why i'm valuing it at 150

[manic cloak]

this too

ah

[earnest olive]

does microcenter have any deal on 13600k/kf rn?

[manic cloak]

nope

it’s 12600k, 12700k, 13700k, and 13900k

never the 13600k

[earnest olive]

oof

well, i feel like you might as well just get the 12600k

good price on that

seeing 196 in tustin

[manic cloak]

issue is the 12600k combo is an a750 and the 12600k for 35$

[earnest olive]

not much of a point stepping up to 12700k

[manic cloak]

350$*

[earnest olive]

well

12600k is 197 outside of microcenter

[manic cloak]

12700k, you could get the ddr4 bundle, upgrade the cpu to the 13600k for like 30$

[earnest olive]

not sure if intel is running any promo on 12600k rn

you're getting a ddr5 board so the ddr4 bundle is not meaningful to you

[manic cloak]

true

[earnest olive]

and new ddr4 is so cheap right now that there's really not much demand for ddr4 if you resell it

16gb ddr4-3200 is worth like $25 resell maximum

even then it'll be hard to find a buyer

since it's $30 new and you get lifetime warranty with that

[manic cloak]

ya, I bought my ddr4 for practically what a 32gb kit of ddr5 6000/5600 cl32 is rn

aka 85$

[earnest olive]

and then if you can't find a local then you'll need to pay like $5 for shipping

and then you only make 20

just get 12600k imo

that cooler will also be happier on a 12600k

[manic cloak]

true

also this guy i’ve been talking to for his vg27aq monitor finally sent me the barcodes

issue is, the monitor is 3 years old

[earnest olive]

3 years isn't that bad

is it a good deal?

I'm dailying a 12 year old monitor right now as my second monitor

got a 18 year old monitor in my room that still works perfectly fine

1080p 75hz and has hdmi

[manic cloak]

125$

for a 1440p 165hz 27 inch monitor

[earnest olive]

well, it's 60hz but being old enough to vote hasn't stopped it from overclocking to 75hz

yeah that sounds like a good deal

[manic cloak]

alr

[earnest olive]

I don't think 3 years old is a problem

[manic cloak]

he says it has no problems too

but idk why he’s selling so cheap

but also, there’s a lady who lives in the same area looking to buy monitors

and she was asking about mine rn

[earnest olive]

it's hard to sell monitors especially if you live in an area that isn't super populated or super well off on average

[manic cloak]

so i’m planning to go sell my monitor for 130$ then buy his for 125$ on same day

[earnest olive]

since they're pretty impractical to ship

you mostly have to sell local

[manic cloak]

30 mins from twin cities, and i got all original boxing lmao

[earnest olive]

well, even then

[manic cloak]

shipping and etc

pain in the ass

[earnest olive]

it's definitely harder to sell than, like, a cpu

[manic cloak]

true

[earnest olive]

picked up said 12 year old second monitor for $25

1920x1200 with full ergo adjustment, IPS, native displayport, included a DVI to HDMI adapter

I'm using it as a 1200x1920 vertical monitor

it's incredible

10:16 is just

[manic cloak]

ag

ah

i hope this lady responds back to my offer though

[earnest olive]

gl

[serene onyx]

Guys

I just got home

Turned my pc on

And it's not working

I have 2 error lights

Cpu

And dram

What do I do

It's not turning ofd

Off

@earnest olive

@obsidian wigeon

I need help please

It's not even showing display

GUYS

IM PANICKING

WHAT DO I DO

[mossy venture]

Hold the power button

[serene onyx]

😭😭

[mossy venture]

Calm down

[serene onyx]

OK OK

[mossy venture]

Try turning it back on after that, and see if it does

If not, hold power button again.

Reseat ram

Try again

[serene onyx]

I'm holding it

Nothing

[mossy venture]

Is anything still on?

[serene onyx]

Yes

[mossy venture]

Like fans, rgb, lights, anything?

[serene onyx]

Just the error lights and my rgb

[mossy venture]

You've been holding it and it hasn't turned off?

[serene onyx]

No

[mossy venture]

Like, pressing down and holding

[serene onyx]

Yes

[mossy venture]

For 5+ seconds?

[serene onyx]

Yup

[mossy venture]

If that doesn't work thats quite odd

Could try turning psu off via the power switch but I'm not sure that's safe, one sec

[serene onyx]

Error lights are cpu and dram

This pc is new

[mossy venture]

@fossil cedar you available?

[mossy venture]

Has it been turned on before?

[serene onyx]

Yes

It's been working fine for the whole week I've had it

But rn

It just stopped working

[mossy venture]

You build it, or ore built?

Pre*

[serene onyx]

I built it

It was perfectly fine

[mossy venture]

Alright, my first guess would be ram needs to be reseated

[serene onyx]

It just messed up rn

[mossy venture]

But have to turn pc off first

[serene onyx]

Ok ima do that rq

Do I just turn off psi

Psu

[mossy venture]

I'm not sure if it's safe, so I would wait for someone else to answer

Give me a second

[serene onyx]

Ok

[mossy venture]

Ima check general for someone who'd know

[serene onyx]

Ok

Please do

[mossy venture]

@stoic island by chance?

[serene onyx]

@stoic island

[mossy venture]

Alright, try holding the power button for 15 seconds

One more time

@earnest olive you available?

[serene onyx]

Ok I'll do thay

All my parts are new too

[stoic island]

So it's not turning off?

[serene onyx]

No

[mossy venture]

Yeah it won't

[stoic island]

No to not turning off or no as in no, it's not turning off

[mossy venture]

It is not turning off

[serene onyx]

It's not turning off

[stoic island]

Flip the psu switch

[mossy venture]

Even via holding power button

[serene onyx]

Ok I'll flip it off

[mossy venture]

Alright that's what I thought but wasn't sure if it was safe, ty

[serene onyx]

Ima reaseat the ram rq

[mossy venture]

From there, first reseat ram, and then try clear cmos

[serene onyx]

But what about the cpu error light

[stoic island]

All the safety mechanisms should still be there

[stoic island]

Were they both on at the same time or did CPU light turn on, then off, then DRAM light turn on?

[serene onyx]

Same time

[stoic island]

You should reseat the CPU too then

[serene onyx]

Crap alr

Ima do that then

[earnest olive]

no not really

[mossy venture]

Alr sorry for bugging you

[earnest olive]

all good

[serene onyx]

Ok so

It's working noe

Thank yall so much

[fossil cedar]

waddup

[mossy venture]

Got it all figured out, ty

[little osprey]

@potent portal @mossy venture

[weak flint]

thats an expensive boi

7900xt is like cheaper well i presume its different in your countries market

besides it performs just aswell

[little osprey]

a 7900xt is 1.2k

[weak flint]

7900xt is $800💀

oh aas in ur country

wtf?

that's insane

[serene onyx]

I found one for 500

It was a power color one

I saw it on Ali express

I was so mad cause it doesn't ship to the USA

BUT IT WAS SO CHEAP

[rain bloom]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jrjXmr
Thoughts? Trying to make a 1080p machine for under 800

[fossil cedar]

Unless you need CUDA or are insisting on ray tracing (would not recommend on a 3060 if you want much fps), also that case and psu are just terrible
Anyway I'd do this, much better gpu too
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/WJLkv3

[rain bloom]

Much better indeed, this is why I double check lol. Thank you!

[fossil cedar]

You're welcome

[earnest olive]

it's been quite some time since I saw an h510 in here

you know those "days since last workplace accident" signs?

maybe we need one of those but it's "days since last h510"

[frigid night]

A bot. When someone mentions it. It throws that phrase out there.

[earnest olive]

I love it

[fossil cedar]

Now i really wanna make one goddamit

[frigid night]

Do it. Just make sure it only logs this chat.

I'm sure there is already a bot out there that can do it.

[fossil cedar]

I'd love to but repeat exam is soon, maybe after for the lols

Maybe yeah

[frigid night]

If you make your own. Call it PatoBot

[potent portal]

That was a scam

Lots of scams on ali. If it looks too good to be true it probably is.

[serene onyx]

I guess ur right

Guys

I'm having problems with my pc again

I fixed it from earlier issues right

And rn

All of a sudden

It was working perfectly fine right

But now, all of a sudden

My pc just stopped working

All the fans stopped spinning, it just stopped working

But there's no error lights

Wtf is happening to my pc

Display entirely cut out

Fans stopped spinning

I'm genuinely concerned

Ok so, I flipped the psu switch

And I'm getting the same cpu and ram error lights again, wtf is happening

[obsidian wigeon]

Unplug the pc, or switch psu off

Hold down power button for 30 sec, wait 10 minute then boot normally

If it doesn't work do cmos reset

[serene onyx]

Ok

This happened earlier

But I reseated the ram and cpu and it worked

Amd now it's doing the same, give me a min ima do that

Ima hold it doen

[runic spruce]

Was the motherboard used?

[obsidian wigeon]

It's a new build

[serene onyx]

All new parts

It's been 1 minutes of holding it doen

Nothing

How I clear cmos

[obsidian wigeon]

I meant the holding power button should be 30 seconds

[runic spruce]

What’s the cpu and motherboard?

[serene onyx]

It doesn't turn off

[serene onyx]

I did

It didn't do anyt

[obsidian wigeon]

And you wait with sitting there for 10 min

[serene onyx]

Anything

Oh ok

[obsidian wigeon]

It's a power cycle reset

[serene onyx]

Well I'll wait a few minutes

Let's see if it work

[obsidian wigeon]

Clearing cmos you'll have to find cmos batt, it's a coin batt

[serene onyx]

the same cpu and dram lights are on

[obsidian wigeon]

If the board has cmos reset button or jumper, you can also do it

[serene onyx]

How I jump it

[obsidian wigeon]

Something metallic

[serene onyx]

Cause it has a jumper thing

[obsidian wigeon]

Like a spoon

[serene onyx]

Screwdriver?

[obsidian wigeon]

You can use jumper too

Yeah that can work

[runic spruce]

Flathead screwdriver

[serene onyx]

Ok, ima have to look for one of those and ima have to look at the manual for the cmos reset thing

[obsidian wigeon]

Board and cpu are compatible with one another

I picked them myself lel

[serene onyx]

Yeah

[runic spruce]

What was it

[obsidian wigeon]

A620M Pro RS and 7600

[serene onyx]

Do maybe have a idea as too why my pc is doing this

Cause it was so random

[runic spruce]

That’s weird, bent pin on the mobo maybe

[obsidian wigeon]

Might be bios needing update

Doubt it lol

[serene onyx]

Hm

[obsidian wigeon]

He's never taken it apart yet

Just built it and used it

[serene onyx]

Yeah, I havnt done that

[obsidian wigeon]

Once you get it working

[serene onyx]

It was working for a whole week just fine

[obsidian wigeon]

Maybe update the bios

[serene onyx]

I'll try

[obsidian wigeon]

Random shut downs isn't right

[little osprey]

waitig till the r7 5800x3d is in discounts

[runic spruce]

Pins can come broken even if there new, but I’d try the bios update first

[serene onyx]

Yeah, cause this doesn't seem right

[little osprey]

to then buy a new cooler and psu

[serene onyx]

Ok so like 6 minutes left till its been 10 minutes waiting

This is so random, idk why it's doing this

[runic spruce]

U can get like a small weight then tape it

Or just a weight

[serene onyx]

Do u think it could be one of my cables not being plugged in all the way?

[runic spruce]

You’d have to check that

[serene onyx]

Yeah cause ima do that after these 10 minutes are up

Then clear cmos

[runic spruce]

U didn’t like put the hdmi in the motherboard right

[serene onyx]

I think my cmos is either under my gpu

[serene onyx]

No

Never

[mossy venture]

I'd check motherboard power, cpu power, and pcie power

Both on psus end and on motherboard and gpu

[serene onyx]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing

[runic spruce]

My guess is a pin might’ve been bent on the mobo

[serene onyx]

I hope not

[mossy venture]

What psu is it?

[serene onyx]

It's ihh

Uh

Lemme check

Cooler master 850 watt

Atx modular psu

[mossy venture]

Mwe gold v2?

[serene onyx]

Erm

Mwe gold 850

V2

Yeah

That one

[mossy venture]

Solid psu, doubt that's the issue

[serene onyx]

Yeah

[runic spruce]

It’s prob the motherboard like I said eariler

[serene onyx]

Hm

When I reseated the ram and cpu it worked tho

That's so weird

Ok 2 more minutes just incase, then I'll check cables

[runic spruce]

It booted into windows?

Or the bios

[serene onyx]

Yeah, it turned on like nothing ever happened

I was even playing l4d2 and watching Netflix

[runic spruce]

Did u reset the bios yet

[serene onyx]

No

Ima flip the switch rn

And double check rn

[runic spruce]

It might just be a bios issue if u were playing around withy it

[serene onyx]

Yeah

Prolly

Ima double check the cables

Then ima try and power it on

If it works, ima check bios

If not, I'll cmos reset

Ok

So

It's working now

I unplugged and reconnected every cable from the psu and mobo

And now it's working

How do I access bio to check for update

@runic spruce

@obsidian wigeon

How I enter bios

I'm on bios

Now what

Guys

Hello

I'm so lost

GUYS

😭

HELLOOO

@runic spruce @obsidian wigeon

Ples

[runic spruce]

Spam f1

[serene onyx]

I'm alr in it

[runic spruce]

Wait it was the delete key

While booting

To access bios

[serene onyx]

I'm alr in bios

[runic spruce]

And u then want a usb 2.0 stick to download the bios then update

[serene onyx]

HUH

😭

Damnit

Can I do it using wifi

[runic spruce]

If it’s working u prob don’t need it

[runic spruce]

No

[serene onyx]

Yeah, cause it's working now

[runic spruce]

Then u prob do need a bios update

[serene onyx]

Alright

Ima try and look for the website and download it

[runic spruce]

U need a usb stick to update it

[serene onyx]

Can I just go back to my regular pc screen, do it while my pc is working then go into bios and do it that way?

[runic spruce]

I don’t follow

[serene onyx]

Huh

Ok I exited bios, ima put it onto a USB while my pc is working

Then ima update it

[runic spruce]

Yea u can download the bios on the usb while in windows then just go back into bios

Look up a tutorial on YouTube

[serene onyx]

My USB has a windows 11 install on it

💀

[runic spruce]

Delete it

[serene onyx]

Ima delete it

Yeah

Which way do I do it

Do I press flashback on the recent one

[obsidian wigeon]

flashback if you want easy way

[serene onyx]

Ok

I clicked flashback

[obsidian wigeon]

you can update it with flashback button on mobo

[serene onyx]

It took me to a page with weird instructions

Yeah

That eay

[obsidian wigeon]

make sure the usb drive is formatted in fat32

follow its instructions

[serene onyx]

Ok

[obsidian wigeon]

make sure you plug the usb drive in flashback usb port too if you haven't

it's always outlined in white on io-shield

[serene onyx]

Oh ok

OH

NO WONDER MY THING WASNT WORKING

They released a new bios update

TODAY

😭🤦🏽‍♂️

[obsidian wigeon]

Could be lol

Or that you had some loose cables

But perhaps a bios update might help still

[serene onyx]

Probably

[obsidian wigeon]

don't run beta tho

it can be a bit unstable

[mossy venture]

Bios don't have to be updated to be working

[serene onyx]

Wdym?

[mossy venture]

You just update it if there's major firmware/security updates or if you're having issues

[obsidian wigeon]

he's having some odd random power off issues

[serene onyx]

It doesn't power off, well sorta

It just stops working

And error lights pop up

So do I install this new bios update then?

It's a beta

[mossy venture]

I'm not saying to not update, just saying that new bios being released today doesn't mean much

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[serene onyx]

So I still do it?

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah I would try non beta bios first

The latest non beta one

[serene onyx]

The one from 2 months ago?

Ok I'll do that one instead

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[serene onyx]

How do I format my USB stick to fat 32

Nvm it's alr fat 32

[obsidian wigeon]

Right click on it in windows explorer

[serene onyx]

I did

[obsidian wigeon]

If it's already fat32 then ya

Good then

[zenith cargo]

best cheap liquid cooling suggestions?

[little osprey]

Frozen Notte

[obsidian wigeon]

thermalright frozen notte

that's the lowest i would go

[little osprey]

However might be overkill depending on your CPU

[obsidian wigeon]

anything else are crap lol

like cooler master ml stuff

[little osprey]

There's plenty of good air coolers I would consider first depending on your CPU

[obsidian wigeon]

master leaker as i like to call

[zenith cargo]

5800x

[obsidian wigeon]

also yeah, an air cooler is only like $40

[zenith cargo]

soon the 3d

[obsidian wigeon]

you can get away with thermalright coolers

something like phantom spirit and peerless assassin

[zenith cargo]

remember when u recom me this

how much better will it be than that air cooler

[mossy venture]

The pa120 se is same price or cheaper and better than the 225xt

[serene onyx]

Ok so installed and put the bios on the usb

Ima unplug it now

[mossy venture]

The thermalright frozen notte 240 is $53 on amazon

Pa120 se is around $35-40, or ps120 se, or ft120, fc140, silver soul 110, silver soul 135

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3

This is a lil bit better and is rgb https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MzMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se-argb

[serene onyx]

Ok time to power off my pc and install bios

Rahhh

@obsidian wigeon

U said the bios USB port is surrounded with a white outline?

On the io shield

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes

It's the one port you need to use to update bios

[serene onyx]

Ok I got it plugged in the port

Ok ima update now

[obsidian wigeon]

Use that flashback button

Hold it down I think is what you should do

And release once you see some lights blinking

Then wait

[serene onyx]

Ok

It's turning solid green

[obsidian wigeon]

You might have to wait up to 10 minutes while it does its job

[serene onyx]

It says it's cause it's prolly not the right port

Ima check my manual again

[obsidian wigeon]

Gimme a pic of the back of it

[serene onyx]

Ok

See

U can see the green light

I unplugged the USB so u can see

[obsidian wigeon]

okay you want the gray outlined one

[serene onyx]

Ik

[obsidian wigeon]

weird

also keep the usb drive plugged for the whole process

that's probably why it's not doing the update

[serene onyx]

I am

I did

[obsidian wigeon]

then do again and wait, or try following the manual

I gotta go grab some breakfast lol

[serene onyx]

It's still not working

I renamed it and everything nothing

Tried every port too

[little osprey]

guys I bought 6 fans

for my new lian li o11d

Idk where to use 2 of them

recommendations?

[serene onyx]

ITS WORKING

IM SO DUMB

THE REASON IT WASNT WORKING IS CAUSE I DIDNT MOVE THE ROM TO THE MAIN DIRECTORY OF THE USB

[serene onyx]

Erms

How is ur case

@obsidian wigeon will installing this bios update get rid of any of my stuff?

[little osprey]

like this

[little osprey]

oc stuff iirc

[serene onyx]

Ok so

Huh

U got 1 on the back

3 on the bottom

3 on the side

Front

And top

Well spots

[little osprey]

front is a glass panel

[serene onyx]

Oh

😭

[cyan ravine]

You can put a mesh panel on the front for more fans

[serene onyx]

Yeah

What he said

[little osprey]

I can only think of bottom

and back

[serene onyx]

Put 1 on each

[little osprey]

since I'm buying a cooler (when I buy the new cpu)

[cyan ravine]

The case is expensive tho

[little osprey]

I already bought it

[cyan ravine]

Welp

[serene onyx]

Uh oj

[cyan ravine]

It's not a bad case, I have one

But compared to the air mini it's mostly rad compatibility and modularity

[little osprey]

the thign about the air mini

was the less space

[cyan ravine]

Yes rad compatibility

That's really it tho

[little osprey]

and I'm not confortable having the gpu 10cm from the front panel

where I should put some radiator

[serene onyx]

Oh lord

[little osprey]

which would make it like 5cm

[cyan ravine]

That's a lot of room

💀

Idk I like the air mini, it's also the only one with fans

[little osprey]

yeah I saw that

I really hope the pc doesn't need to be undervolted

since till cpu discount

I'll be running with 750W psu

(r9 3900x and 6950xt)

well, it will be starting from the 26th (when gpu is delivered)

[serene onyx]

Bios update complete

[manic cloak]

i’m so stupid

I’m removing my graphics card and i realized that i don’t need to upgrade my psu unless for wattage concerns

i thought 1 pcie cable only had 1 8 pin pcie to it

not 2

so i don’t have to worry about having 3 pcie slots for a gpu 💀

[manic cloak]

oh my

[cyan ravine]

ook

that ilm is def deforming the ihs 💀

[manic cloak]

?

[cyan ravine]

you can see left and right sides the paste is thicker where the tabs are holding it down

[manic cloak]

oh ya

i did an X pattern for it

guess that didn’t work LOL

[cyan ravine]

no it spread properly

[manic cloak]

I’m putting on the thermaltake or right contact plate rn

oh?

[cyan ravine]

it just pooled around the tabs cos thats where all the pressure is

[manic cloak]

too much pressure then?

[cyan ravine]

the lga1700 ilm is trash

yes

[manic cloak]

what is ilm

[cyan ravine]

that's why the contact frame exists

the thing holding the cpu down

internal load mechanism

[manic cloak]

ah

that’s the clamp thing right

with the very high tension clamp

[cyan ravine]

ye

you're swapping that so the pressure is even instead of being on the two sides left and right with the little metal tabs

it makes a huge difference to temperatures

[manic cloak]

i thought it was like 1-2 degrees celcius

which is still a bit but

i’m also reseating my gpu to see for any damages

pain in the ass to lift the lever

such a huge human mechanism error

like.. why isn’t there a button for it, instead of a hard to reach lever

[south cliff]

What is a a good 500 dollar build

Haven’t been looking at the tech news been grinding dbl and Pokémon go

[little osprey]

12100F/13100F (Whatever is cheaper)

B660M/B760M DS3H(?)

16GB-32GB of DDR4/DDR5

[south cliff]

Ok let me see what I can build real fast

[manic cloak]

ayyy pmkn go

[south cliff]

6600xt

?

[little osprey]

Yeah

Good card

MP33/MP34 are good choices for storage

Then get a A or B tier PSU

[south cliff]

Alright

Let me see what I can put together

[little osprey]

I would recommend checking used prices for a GPU

[south cliff]

And I’ll send and see if it’s good

[little osprey]

👍

[south cliff]

It’s not for me it’s for freind

[little osprey]

It’s a gaming orientated build, yes?

[south cliff]

Yes

[little osprey]

Alrighty, ping me with that list when you get that done

[south cliff]

Almost done but thanks

Bruh did the 6600xt go up

[little osprey]

Brand new?

[manic cloak]

@cyan ravine you still here?

[little osprey]

Possibly, it was on sale recently IIRC

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pXd6nt

[cyan ravine]

hi

[manic cloak]

so issue

[little osprey]

4500???

[manic cloak]

there was thermal paste and looks like bent pins?

[cyan ravine]

you could do 12100f but no wifi as a result

[south cliff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yk7hDq

[cyan ravine]

indeed

[manic cloak]

so how do I fix..

no wait

[cyan ravine]

I can't really remember I might ping someone who does

[manic cloak]

it looks like PINS are missing

[cyan ravine]

m-

missing?

[little osprey]

Oh board issue

[south cliff]

Oh nah

[manic cloak]

is there pins missing?

cause how tf does that HAPPEN

[little osprey]

I would opt for a cheaper case and maybe a different PSU if you don’t already have it

[cyan ravine]

it can't have missing pins by definition of spec

[south cliff]

It was a joke

I thought the 6600xt was cheaper

Guess the 6600 will have to do

[cyan ravine]

lol wtf why is the bottom corner look like all the pins are bent

[manic cloak]

it’s the angle

i think

[cyan ravine]

ah yeah I zoomed in

[manic cloak]

should i stream?

[cyan ravine]

nah

it looks pretty much fine zoomed in

we can check

the three you see that look sus

are they like way bent or just a little

I'm seeing just a little

which is all likely fine

[manic cloak]

no clue

it looks a little

i did notice that when i got the board

but i thought i was tripping

[cyan ravine]

it's likely fine