building-and-recc-chat

[earnest olive]

because i wanted it to support UEFI

ended up buying an HD 8490 but they sent me an R5 240 instead

[vague oracle]

💀

[earnest olive]

when you buy a $10 gpu and get one with double the performance that you paid for

stonks

[vague oracle]

My microcenter is selling a new R5 240 for $35 I think

[earnest olive]

(the performance is still basically 0)

new r5 240... that's impressive

they're museum status at this point

i have a special r5 240 though

the r5 240 "what was dell cooking" edition

they replaced the 2GB 900 MHz DDR3 with 1GB 1000 MHz GDDR3

[vague oracle]

Yeah so, I brought clkdrvstr down to 40 and still errors but no BSOD, seems like 60 is sweet spot

Errors after like 10 seconds

…WHAT THE

I HAVE A NON ARTIFACTING BIOS???

[earnest olive]

was rttpark rzq/5 better than rzq/6 and rzq/1?

[vague oracle]

Yeah

I CAN READ MY BIOS

[earnest olive]

try dropping vsoc down to 1.15 and raising cldo vddp up to 1.10

too high vsoc can sometimes be counterproductive to stability

and sometimes raising cldo vddp can help with pushing fclk/gdm

[vague oracle]

I’m going to be way too happy if my 2070 fixed itself LOL

[earnest olive]

prob just temporary

[vague oracle]

…I spoke too soon

[earnest olive]

that batch of vram is known to be bad

[vague oracle]

Yeah I know

[earnest olive]

she's trying her best

[vague oracle]

But I can read my bios now

It used to be like this

[earnest olive]

you should see corrupted msi bios

it's funny

[graceful saffron]

or any old MSI/assrock bios

they look sooo bad

[earnest olive]

unfortunately don't have pics cause they are on my phone that i don't have access to rn

corrupted msi bios really likes to change half of its text into chinese while the graphics implode on themselves

[vague oracle]

Error at 66s with 1.15V

[earnest olive]

lemme see if i can find a pic i sent before in discord history

[vague oracle]

How big of a deal is 1T?

[earnest olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500102940078505984/919348311268425768/20210917_114323_HDR.jpg

[earnest olive]

mmm try 1.10V

[earnest olive]

gdm off vs gdm on is not that big of a deal

but run 1t gdm on over 2t

[lone flame]

didnt work

i couldnt get to bios

act hold on

[vague oracle]

Yeah 1.2V was most stable

[earnest olive]

does your board offer VTT control?

i think it should

[vague oracle]

Maybe?

[earnest olive]

asrock should have it

check

[vague oracle]

Will it be called VTT in bios?

Yep found it

[earnest olive]

should be something recognizable

[vague oracle]

VTT_DDR

Set to 0.75 rn

[earnest olive]

try 0.700

my b-die insists on 0.700

0.695 or 0.705 causes fast errors

[vague oracle]

.7 instant error

[earnest olive]

oof

you can try raising it as well

default is vdimm/2

[vague oracle]

.8 okay?

[earnest olive]

some b-die sees scaling up to like 1v lol

yeah 0.8 is safe to try

[lone flame]

Okay I’m in

How do I enable xmp or whatever for my ram

[earnest olive]

look for it

[vague oracle]

What board?

[earnest olive]

asrock a620m pro rs i think

should be under oc tweaker tab

not hard to find

[vague oracle]

OC tweaker, and you can’t miss it unless you’re blind

.8 is doing something

[earnest olive]

well, maybe his bios is in easy mode so no oc tweaker tab

[vague oracle]

Not sure what, but no errors so far

There’s an easy mode?

[lone flame]

Dram frequency?

[vague oracle]

Don’t touch that

[earnest olive]

can look for it on the easy mode screen or press f7 to go into advanced mode

no

[vague oracle]

Send a pic?

[earnest olive]

just xmp profile or expo profile

i don't remember if asrock says xmp or expo on am5

[earnest olive]

dram profile configuration

[vague oracle]

DRAM profile config maybe?

[lone flame]

Ok I see it

What do I even change

[vague oracle]

Select your profile

[vague oracle]

Change from auto to I guess XMP 1

Is 1V VTT okay?

[lone flame]

If you’re asking me idk what that means

[earnest olive]

i wouldn't jump straight to 1v lol

[vague oracle]

0.8 doesn’t help

[earnest olive]

at this point just go up in 1 step increments and see if it hurts or helps

[vague oracle]

Wdym by 1 step increment

[earnest olive]

well, there's the possibility that the hardware is just not capable of 3800 1t gdm off

that's not rare

[vague oracle]

…shhhh

[earnest olive]

1 step as in whatever it increases by when you press +

probably 0.005V

[vague oracle]

I can do that?

[earnest olive]

in general you don't want to be reckless with voltages you know

yeah

[vague oracle]

Fair enough

0.9V instant error

Seems like imma try .775

[lone flame]

alr im back

what does ram speed even change

aka 4800-5600

[vague oracle]

How fast your ram is

[lone flame]

thats fair

lol

ok cool

ty guys

have a gn

[vague oracle]

Imma head to sleep, thisll continue tmrw

[earnest olive]

gn

[potent portal]

It's the amount of data that can be sent or received per second. What we usually use is actually megatransfers per second, not MHz like you usually see in spec sheets.

[leaden mauve]

[earnest olive]

true

you should put 12v through your b-die

it can take it

solder wires directly from eps12v to the voltage pins

[leaden mauve]

Yes

It just takes the whole 3.3V rail actually

Np

[south folio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CWmmd9 is this good? anything i can switch out thats cheaper/better?

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FvKkGL

saved ya some cash

you can keep case as 4000d airflow if you want, this is simply my suggestion

but don't change anything but the case

[south folio]

thx

[mossy venture]

I second this list

[potent portal]

Another potential change would be a 4070 ti but only if you must have nvidia.

[fossil cedar]

If it's not too late I'd just change the gpu to a 6950xt instead of 7900xt they're very close in perf and 6950xt is a lot cheaper, I'd also get a 7700x with the saved money personally
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RXmQC6

[weak flint]

why cpu cooler?

could go for a white build to pair it up with the mobo / https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zL3gXL/fractal-design-focus-2-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-04

[fossil cedar]

Because they can, not needed with the 5600 yes but nice to have and would be needed if 7700x which is what I'd do

[weak flint]

5600?

[fossil cedar]

7600*

Typo

[calm tinsel]

What are the best prime day deals right now for components?

[mossy venture]

Depends on budget

And use case

[fair pewter]

can someone send me a good storage

[obsidian wigeon]

what's your budget?

[calm tinsel]

No budget, I’m just looking for best value

What components are popular atm?

[earnest olive]

pc parts don't go on meaningful sales

all the sales are on older components that compare to the original price so they can pretend it's a sale

I had a look at the prime day deals today, as usual nothing interesting for pc parts

oh boy a 3 year old 3060ti is on sale by 27% for $330 + tax... or you could go on the used market and get it for $250

[calm tinsel]

Ah that’s disappointing

[earnest olive]

no reason to have meaningful sales when everything's controlled by duopolies that are complicit in keeping prices high

might be some deals on like samsung/wd ssds but that's because those are expensive to begin with, even the prime day deals don't really make them better options than some of the alternatives that aren't even on sale

[calm tinsel]

So AMD ryzen 9 5900x for 274$

Not a good deal?

[obsidian wigeon]

kinda bleh honestly

since am4 is now replaced by am5

[calm tinsel]

I’m always wondering what the best products to buy are during these sales

To resell

[earnest olive]

lol

buy 5900x for 274+tax, resell for 225

profit

[calm tinsel]

Doesnt have to be pc conponents

Just happy to take money from bezos

[mossy venture]

7600 is cheaper and better in gaming

[mossy venture]

He is still making money.

Even if you did manage to "take money" its like pissing in the ocean

It will not make a difference

[calm tinsel]

I know

But possibly he’s selling at a loss

So I can feel all warm and fuzzy inside about that

[mossy venture]

Bezos makes what, $2300 a second?

[calm tinsel]

If any of you buy mtg I recommend looking at their deals. Pretty easy profit from the collector boxes.

[mossy venture]

I used to collect mtg religiously as a kid with my brother

My dad gave us all of his cards, he played since the og set

[mossy venture]

Hes got two mint condition mox diamonds he likes to brag about

[calm tinsel]

That’s cool. Hopefully he got them graded

[mossy venture]

He hasn't, but he has had them in protective sleeves since he got them

I dont think they'd be over a psa 8

Theyre more like near mint than actually mint

[calm tinsel]

Insane the price spike in 2020 for all tcgs. Some people got legitimately rich from the original products

[calm tinsel]

He should still get them graded

[mossy venture]

In I think 2021 I had found my old Pokémon collection

I found a charizard that was worth about $700 that was in absolutely terrible condition

Like, below psa 2

[calm tinsel]

I sold all mine as well, made maybe…5k? I didn’t have anything too special

[mossy venture]

The main magic cards I want to have graded are those mox diamonds, and he also has two original signed nightmares

[calm tinsel]

It’s easy, I’ve had tons of cards graded

[mossy venture]

Most other stuff isn't worth much, I've gone through most of it

We've got almost 8000 cards total, including mana cards

Its insane

[calm tinsel]

Any alpha/beta?

[mossy venture]

I believe a good bit of alpha cards, they're just not in great condition, since they've been used in decks before and haven't been sleeved

Most of them would probably be between a psa 5 and 7

[calm tinsel]

Want to send me some pics? I might be interested if you’re selling

[mossy venture]

I'm not home atm and they're all in my brothers room, in the future maybe but not right now

[calm tinsel]

Ok sounds good

@mossy venture

[frosty surge]

What’s better this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tFgh6r or https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VwcFW4

[mossy venture]

I would change both a little bit

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hN6LVw

[weak flint]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yn6LVw

[tawny fiber]

Some mass zen4 lists

Based

[fossil cedar]

Just one small change to yours @frosty surge
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fzGwwc

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-cmg850-850-w/p/N82E16817182451

https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-tt-premium-edition-ps-tpd-0850fnfaga-1-850w/p/N82E16817153403

Between these two what would be best suited for a 6800/6950 XT?

[weak flint]

leeman the PC build will be 10000000x better with the rosewill psu

lol

[little osprey]

???

I think the Rosewill is B tier but the Thermaltake one is A tier

[weak flint]

it was a joke

yeah I'd go for the thermaltake

gf1 are gud psu

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Slovskii/saved/g2h8ZL

[weak flint]

my man his own versioning scheme

[weak flint]

dont know how to feel about the case choice but good build

[little osprey]

For $70 it's nice

[fossil cedar]

gf1 is a baller unit

[weak flint]

wait what have u purchased

[little osprey]

It's marked on the list

[weak flint]

damn im such a idiot

i would go for those fractal cases tbh

i feel like it looks better but its a matter of opinion

[little osprey]

My first case was a Phanteks P300A

[weak flint]

it gives you a bit of money that you can invest in gskill ram

[fossil cedar]

they already have it, g skill is not preferable ram wise

and focus 2 is decent but no psu shroud

[weak flint]

i mean this is prob a hynix m die

oh i think felix said this is a die

but cl28 6000mhz gskill is like $95

[fossil cedar]

5600c32 is hynixm doesnt matter which one tbh

[weak flint]

mm intel though?

[fossil cedar]

basically teh limit of all hynix is imcs and mobos atm

its tuneable to those speeds easy if not eh still good

[weak flint]

ah

[wintry root]

Hey everyone recently I built a new pc and I am currently running into acouple of issues, and could use some help.
1st: Random Screen Flickering
2nd: Random Blue screening.
Blue screening I am starting to think it's due to the m.2 from samsung (Microsoft actually had to do something for the storage to even be able to be used.)

Screen flickering no clue what's the issue.
Specs: AMD Ryzen 9 7950x3D
GPU: MSI 4090 Suprim
AIO: z73 Kraken.
RAM: Gskill 64gig @ 6000 DDR5
970 Evo Plus. 2tb
990 Pro 2tb

[drowsy furnace]

I am trying to build my first PC and keep the cost to $3000 or less. This is what I have for a parts list. Any advice would be great.
CPU: Intel Core i7-12700kf
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI LGA 1700
Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 64GB (2 x 32GB)
Video Card: ASUS TUF Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti
Case: Fractal Design Torrent RGB Black E-ATX
PSU: CORSAIR RM850e Fully Modular Low-Noise ATX Power Supply
Storage: SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 x4
Cooler: DeepCool LT720 Premium Liquid CPU Cooler

[mossy venture]

I would not buy most of this

Are you in the US?

[drowsy furnace]

yeah

[mossy venture]

Kk, give me a few

[drowsy furnace]

ok thank you

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TTsWnt

7800x3d is the best cpu for gaming. 4090 is obviously the best gpu for gaming

Xs70 is very similar to the 980 pro, though is way overkill for gaming anyways

Unless you're not gaming

[drowsy furnace]

i do plan on mostly gaming

[mossy venture]

Ram, 64gb hurts performance

[drowsy furnace]

oh gotcha, didnt know that

[mossy venture]

That aio might be out of stock

Peerless assassin 120 se would do fine for that cpu though

[drowsy furnace]

ill check newegg and amazon since prime day is still going on. i appreciate the help

[mossy venture]

At $38 it rivals 240mm aios

[mossy venture]

The list I made compares prices from everywhere

Amazon and newegg

[drowsy furnace]

oh awesome

i see that now

any recs for monitor?

[gentle pollen]

M32U is usually the go to option if your not going OLED.

[drowsy furnace]

is there any advantage or disadvantage between OLED and LED?

aside from colors i guess

[sharp temple]

New build debating between 5600x and 5800x3d

[gentle pollen]

IPS is cheaper and doesn't risk burn-in from running bright static screens for long periods like OLED does but OLED offers vastly better colors, true blacks, faster response time, and etc.

[mossy venture]

7600 and b650 pro rs wifi with 32gb 5600c32 is cheaper than 5800x3d plus that mobo and 32gb 3200c16

[graceful saffron]

5800x3d

[mossy venture]

The 980 is not a good ssd, especially at $50

[graceful saffron]

its mini ITX

[mossy venture]

M450 is better and cheaper

Oh didn't notice the case, mb

[sharp temple]

I'm set on the case

I also already have the ram

From an old build

[fossil cedar]

I'd deff change the ssd though, as bacca said 980 is a meh drive and terrible for 50$

[dry gust]

is this a decet fan curve for my cpu and gpu?

decent*

i wanna keep stuff reltaively cool but i dont want it at 100 percent constanty

[runic spruce]

Depends on gpu, but you’ll have to test it out to see if it’s good

It seems kind of aggressive tho but idk what gpu it is so I can’t say

[dry gust]

2060

and i just got a 5600x

cpu

[runic spruce]

I’d play around with the fan curve, just make sure the gpu doesn’t go past low-mid 70s

U can use hwinfo64 or msi afterburner to see temps

[dry gust]

it reaches 80c along with my cpu which reaches like 83c with fans at 95%

[runic spruce]

Could be just the coolers

But u could replace the thermal paste, may help a little bit

2060 is a kind of old card so the paste in it might’ve of dried maybe

But it could just be the cooler

[dry gust]

alr thanks

[potent portal]

It's probably the paste yeah, even a dual fan 2060 should be way cooler than that

Or bad airflow in the case

[whole ginkgo]

is nzxt player one prime good for 1k?

[jagged ember]

Nope

A 12400 with a 3070? For 1k

With 16gb 3200mhz ram (probably cl18)

[midnight carbon]

looking to upgrade my cpu currently have a i5-10400 so an lga 1200 socket any good deals or recommendations?

[obsidian wigeon]

no upgrades worth doing honestly

you'll need new board and cpu if ram is good enough

[midnight carbon]

well it makes sense for me to upgrade because im giving my cpu to my brother and hes paying me lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

you could go for 12 or 13th gen depending on your ram

if not it's time to go ddr5, but that depends on budget too

[mossy venture]

Yeah, maybe 11600k used

11400f new isnt awfully priced, considering 5600 is the same price, but id still go used over new for anything before 12th gen https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qp2WGX/intel-core-i5-11400f-26-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8070811400f

[buoyant aurora]

howdy guys, I need to substitute 2 parts from the build I was given earlier as the mobo and PSU will not be available for a long time (2-4 weeks) and I need this PC asap

I need an 850 watt minimum PSU to support a 3090 at full tilt

as well as a mobo with DDR5 support for a 12600k

I could also use a lot of m.2 slots

wifi is not needed, black is preferred, and I would prefer to stay away from MSI and gigabyte as brands, if possible

[mossy venture]

Gf1 850 pe or cooler master gold v2 for psu

Why stay away from msi and gigabyte? They make some of the best motherboards

[buoyant aurora]

MWE gold 859 V2?

[mossy venture]

Yes

If its still $100

[buoyant aurora]

if anything, i would prefer stay away from MSI over gigabyte

I don't care for either comany much

[mossy venture]

Could also look at rmx

[buoyant aurora]

yup

perfect, and it gets here soon too

I have a cooler master 650 white in my PC ATM and its been fantastic

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JJRYcf/gigabyte-z690-aorus-elite-ax-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-aorus-elite-ax figured you'd need the pcie lanes of a z690 or 790 for the m.2s

[buoyant aurora]

best $30 PSU I ever bought lol

[mossy venture]

This is decent https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MDGbt6/asrock-z790-pg-lightning-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-pg-lightning

[buoyant aurora]

any other buying options potentially?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pTbTwP/asrock-b760m-pro-rs-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-pro-rs

[buoyant aurora]

The asrock is a little steep for me, but the gigabyte is 3 weeks out of stock

sorry to be diffucult, any others?

[mossy venture]

Not really much else that isn't a b760 in budget

[buoyant aurora]

B760 is fine

[little osprey]

Is the 5600X worth it over the 5600 if it's $20 more?

Asking for a friend

[brittle copper]

That’s a good question

[buoyant aurora]

i would rather get something I can use soon than Z790

I have an M.2 dock for my m.2 if need be

[mossy venture]

This is nice but only has 2 m.2s https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wBfnTW/gigabyte-b760m-aorus-elite-ax-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-aorus-elite-ax

[mossy venture]

No

[brittle copper]

I would say no

[buoyant aurora]

yeah, thats what i would go for, but thats the one thats super out of stock ._.

[mossy venture]

This is also good https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tGmmP6/asrock-b760m-pg-riptide-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-pg-riptide

Decent, one more m.2 than pg riptide, worse vrms https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HymmP6/asrock-b760-pro-rs-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760-pro-rs

[little osprey]

Alrighty, thanks

[buoyant aurora]

I am gonna be undervolting my CPU anyways

[mossy venture]

The vrms are fine for a 12600k

More than fine

[buoyant aurora]

uhg, why are the mobos so hard to deal with

they are iether out of stock, or way overpriced on amazon lol

[brittle copper]

So which has higher performance per dollar at MSRP between the 4070 Ti and 4090?

[buoyant aurora]

I would totoally go with that gigabyte, it seems perfect, but the delivery date is 2-3 weeks out

[mossy venture]

Go on pcparpicker, put in 12600k and ddr5, and search b760 and sort by cheapest

[buoyant aurora]

seems other people caught onto the deal lol

[mossy venture]

Look till you find one that has what you need

[buoyant aurora]

and then run it by you?

I know some mobos have issues

[mossy venture]

Fine with me

[buoyant aurora]

damn it, all the good ones are so out of stock lol

[mossy venture]

Do you alr have the cpu?

[buoyant aurora]

nope, everything is new

ordering all together

[mossy venture]

Could go 7600, if b650 pro rs wifi checks your boxes

Not sure how many m.2s it has

[buoyant aurora]

not considering the 7600 currently, its slower and costs considerably more than the 12600k on amazon

12600k on amazon is only $180 right now

7600 is $225

[mossy venture]

Fairly sure 7600 beats it, unless you're doing multi core tasks?

In that case I'd check if 13500 is down to $210 again

[buoyant aurora]

can't justify almost $50 more for that one, personally

[buoyant aurora]

can take a look

13500 is $250

even the 13400 is $210

the 12600k just seems like the best option at just $180

[mossy venture]

Yeah it is out of those

[buoyant aurora]

let me keep looking for mobos

jesus christ

when did IO on the back of MOBO's become nonexistent

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSP61QZC?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

this one is a maybe, whats your thoughts? I know it has terrible IO

everything was so easy before the mobo was considered lmao

[mossy venture]

It's kinda bottom of the bin, worse quality than any of the others I've linked, but it'll be fine with a 12600k

[buoyant aurora]

this is all so awkward ._.

guess I am gonna be forced to buy through Newegg

that was the last thing I wanted ._.

oh well

@mossy ventureoh wait

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSB4TYHV?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

thoughts on that?

[mossy venture]

Good motherboard

[buoyant aurora]

screw it, I am gonna buy it used

save some money, and it gets here considerably sooner than even newegg

||could always buy a brand new one later and return the used one or something, I just need this up and running ASAP||

||And no, I don't mean in place of the used one ll||

ok!

I got it!

@wheat coral This is the final build with no GPU

[wheat coral]

go for 5600mhz ram

its like 10$ more

[buoyant aurora]

I went with what you shared

alright

[wheat coral]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BPHRJX6F?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[buoyant aurora]

gotcha flobbur

@wheat coralWait, what about the 6000mhz CL48-48-48-96? Its $6 more

[wheat coral]

should be fine for 6 bones mroe

[buoyant aurora]

but wait lol

[wheat coral]

my favorite least optimised game

[buoyant aurora]

the 6000, 34-44-44-84 is only $5 more ontop of that lmfao

[wheat coral]

oh significantly better

inb4 the 6400 is 5$ more

[buoyant aurora]

64GB 6000 CL34-44-4484 for $165

[wheat coral]

sounds good tbh

[buoyant aurora]

They don't have any faster in stock haha

[wheat coral]

hope the 12th gen imc is ok with it tho 😭

should be fine on 2 dimms with aorus

[buoyant aurora]

its just a few schmeckles more anyways, no biggie

[wheat coral]

worht buying either way 64gb of 6000 c34 will carry you quite a few years

[buoyant aurora]

damn, from 5200 CL 40 to 6000 CL 34 for $20 more

that seems monumentally better for $20 lmao

[wheat coral]

tis

[buoyant aurora]

dopppeeee

[obsidian wigeon]

not sure if i should bother tuning my ddr5 laptop

[wheat coral]

your imc will not go far

[obsidian wigeon]

just samsung 16gbit die

zen 3+ probs crap imc then lol

[buoyant aurora]

Son of a

god damn it

somebody bought the single used version of that mobo before I did, and now I am gonna be screwed out of the mobo I want

uhhgggg

welp, looks like I am not forced to buy a different and lesser mobo

ended up buying a considerably better one used, it just happened to go up right now

So i'll consider that a hidden blessing

has double the USB's, an extra m.2 and another PCIE slot

[frosty surge]

can I use this to connect 7 fans at once from two different brands 4 are corsair 3 are D-RGB PWM

[potent portal]

Looks like it only goes to 6 to me

And it looks like Corsair's proprietary connector, so you'll need to put the other 3 fans on a motherboard header

[mossy lion]

Hello,

I was wondering if someone would be so kind to take a look at my build and provide their feedback. I new when it comes to building. I have bought most of the parts. So thanks in advance

Shared List https://newegg.io/b65cd1cb

[obsidian wigeon]

What is this build used for anyway?

Cause running 4 sticks will hurt performance and stability, especially mismatching speed and capacity

All the parts are pretty overpriced for what they are too

Frankly, it's probably too late to fix now unless you're willing to return everything

That budget will get you a much better build if you start fresh from the ground up here

[mossy venture]

Yeah seconded

You can do a 7600 6950xt build for $1200, which will game a decent bit better

[frigid carbon]

Ummmm

Big problem

So I was messing around is bios and set my dram to 3200 and my 5600x to 4000mhz and Qfan to quiet

And now it won’t boot and I can’t even go to bios

[flint sapphire]

?cmos

[jolly river]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[frigid carbon]

Yep first thing I tried

Took out 2 sticks and it boots

So might be a problem with those sticks?

[flint sapphire]

Yeah

Sounds like it

It booted with 4 before the oc?

[frigid carbon]

Yep. Ran stable for a few months

It’s vengeance 3200 cl16 ddr4

[flint sapphire]

Come as a kit? Or 2 different kits?

[frigid carbon]

Bought 2 16gb kits

[flint sapphire]

Could always try to update your bios if you haven’t already with just the 2 and try with 4

[frigid carbon]

I reset bios and now I’m trying with 4 sticks again

[flint sapphire]

Gl

Might be different memory chips or maybe ones finicky with voltage

[frigid carbon]

Whew booted

Yeah dunno what’s wrong

The last time I set the memory to 3200 I would get game crashes and hard restarts

[earnest olive]

you can't just set the frequency to 3200

enable the xmp profile

[little osprey]

Is the Toughpower GF1 PE currently the cheapest A tier 850W?

[potent portal]

How much do you see it for?

Looks like yes it is at $99.99 https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-tt-premium-edition-ps-tpd-0850fnfaga-1-850w/p/N82E16817153403

I probably wouldn't trust the $97 seller personally

[little osprey]

$100

I just ordered it anyways

I had no clue the 6950 XT was $600 NGL so that's why I need a 850W now

[potent portal]

Yeah it's crazy how good that thing is for the price. I can't believe AMD is still making a profit on that.

[little osprey]

I feel they're just making a joke of Nvidia at this point

Sure AMD's low-mid range stuff ain't great with this generation, but it's not worse than Nvidia's

[fossil cedar]

Who cares the 6600-6700xt is amazingly priced

[little osprey]

I was more referring to the 7600

I would love to get a 6700 XT but for double the price I can get a high end card

[fossil cedar]

Yeah I'm aware but eh as long as there's good cards doesn't matter if it's this gen

[little osprey]

I suppose so

What was the all time low price for the 7900 XTX anyways?

[obsidian wigeon]

$900

[mossy venture]

$830

[obsidian wigeon]

oh ye

i forgot

[tawny fiber]

Their low-mid range till now only has been the 7600

Nvidia has release pretty much entirety of 40 series but radeon lacking

[little osprey]

Even then Nvidia's stuff still sucks

Like it's 4090, 4070 Ti, or nothing

[potent portal]

Even the 4070 ti is a hard sell with the 6950 XT existing

[obsidian wigeon]

4050 might be the only card i can forgive nvidia at lower end segment

IF they make them 75w

if not blargh

cause 4060 is already 115w for desktop

[mossy lion]

I mean I try to return items back if they still allow it. So what suggestions do you have to improve this build?

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xXxRsY/gigabyte-z790-ud-ax-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-ud-ax

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225177085205

Would there be any compatibility issues between the two?

[potent portal]

It's impossible to tell because they don't show the inside of the connector to tell if it's SMA or RP-SMA. The part number doesn't help much either, I only see third party sites which are known to have wrong info at times.

(in this case one site claims, RP-SMA, another SMA, and another claims RSMA which doesn't exist)

[little osprey]

Hmmmm, alright

Only reason I was asking is because I like that style of antennas that are I guess you could say are wireless

I don’t like the fixed ones with the magnet on the bottom

[potent portal]

What you want to look for on your board is SMA connector. I can grab a quick link if you want.

[little osprey]

I’m unsure what I’d be looking for

So yeah a link would be nice

Please and thank you

[potent portal]

I can link the ones I bought from aliexpress. They're high gain and fairly large so should have decent signal.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802847478384.html

The pictures don't do them justice. I can take a pic with a banana for scale if you want lol.

[little osprey]

Hmmm alright I’ll grab those tomorrow

Never have used AliExpress before NGL

[potent portal]

I get lots of little things from there. It's often cheaper. Shipping doesn't usually take as long as they quote for small items too, like fans and these antennas.

I get all my replacement GPU fans from there

[little osprey]

Interesting

Well I suppose I should keep that in mind for later when I need some cheap junk

[potent portal]

As long as you follow the general "if it looks too good to be true it probably is" rule you'll be fine

Again using antennas as an example, there's some on the site for a little cheaper that advertise more than double the gain, while being smaller. That's not how physics works.

[little osprey]

Yeah I don’t know much about networking and such since I have horrible wifi to begin with

I suppose I didn’t ask you, but do you know if MSI lists those antenna specs on their website or something?

Also are all motherboard antennas the same type?

[potent portal]

No they don't

[potent portal]

They're all either SMA or RP-SMA. It matters which.

[little osprey]

Is it possible to tell which one an antenna is by face looks?

[potent portal]

You have to see inside the connector to tell

[little osprey]

Ahhhh, okay okay

That's a lot more simple than I thought it was

@potent portal

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125952035931

Old listing but that was the image

[potent portal]

Ah it's RP-SMA then, wrong type

[little osprey]

Unfortunate

Was the Z790 I looking at SMA?

[potent portal]

Yes, according to the newegg specs at least

[little osprey]

Hmmm

[potent portal]

Which are a bit more reliable than third party parts sites

[little osprey]

Is one type preferred over the other?

[potent portal]

No they're functionally the same

[little osprey]

Yeah UD AX uses RP-SMA from the looks of it

[potent portal]

According to the manual it's SMA

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_z790-ud-series_e_221124.pdf

[little osprey]

Hmmmm

Well that makes sense a bit

So would that mean the end that screws onto the motherboard has to have a hole?

[potent portal]

The perspective of the comparison of the pin location is relative to the antenna. So on SMA, the antenna has the pin and the connected device would have a hole.

[little osprey]

Oooooh

So I had it backwards

[frigid jackal]

can anyone tell me the specs of my friends pc https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/677740802277113858/1129138037633339484/IMG_3549.jpg?width=506&height=675

he got it for free off a friend but he doesn't know the specs

[little osprey]

It's impossible to know the exact specifics without seeing the BIOS or a hardware monitor

But judging by the stock Intel cooler it's most likely a LGA1150/LGA1155 platform

And GPU is quite small, so most likely an older GPU

[potent portal]

Yeah that looks very DDR3

Can't tell the CPU without either taking the cooler off and wiping the paste and booting it up

I agree the GPU looks pretty old, could be up to about a 1050 ti maybe at best

[little osprey]

Thought so

[potent portal]

Dual power plugs lead me to believe it to be an older model than that, though

[mossy venture]

Looks like 900 series imo

Judging by case and cooler, cpu would be no newer than 4th gen intel if I had to hazard a guess

[potent portal]

Dual 6 pin tho, weird for a 900 series

[mossy venture]

Oh I thought it was 8 pin and 6 pin, didn't see that

[potent portal]

I'm thinking this one https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/msi-gtx-970-oc.b3092

Ah but that doesn't match the splash of white on the shroud

[earnest olive]

why not just boot it up and find out

much easier

[frigid jackal]

meooow idk im simb

:3

[bright harbor]

how do i post my build pics

[sharp temple]

If I buy everything new is this worth selling for $950

[earnest olive]

crucial p3 is a really bad ssd

and buying radeon for flip builds is never a good idea

162 also sounds like an absurd amount to pay for a 5600x

strongly doubt you'll get 950 for these specs

I've seen similar/better builds struggle to sell for 600

itx as well

in general if you are buying new parts for a flip you are probably making an error

[sharp temple]

I've heard many good things about crucial p3 ssds. Doesn't Jay Two Cents use them

[earnest olive]

if you're looking to jay for your advice then no wonder you're getting bad advice

[sharp temple]

What?

Why is it bad?

The ssd

[earnest olive]

crucial p3 drops to roughly half of hard drive speeds as soon as the pSLC cache is exhausted

good ssds will maintain 15-20 times the sustained write speeds of the crucial p3

[sharp temple]

Ok then what's a good ssd for the same size and cost

[earnest olive]

suggest getting a team mp33 for a flip instead

it's cheaper and better

but like I said

this flip is just not a good idea

[sharp temple]

5600x at micro center is more expensive $165

[earnest olive]

.

[sharp temple]

Ok i know this COULD be a bad idea. what about remove the noctua cooler and just use the stock. Sell for $850. Cost of build $746

[earnest olive]

have you considered reading

[earnest olive]

have you considered reading

[earnest olive]

have you considered reading

[earnest olive]

have you considered reading

am I just typing all of this to a brick wall or what

I don't get it

[sharp temple]

Have you considered not being an ass, I have read it. I've seen the bench ma4ks and rn a 6700xt is quite a good bang for the buck right now.

[earnest olive]

6700xt is a great card

doesn't make it good for flip builds

you need to understand your audience

I've been doing flips for years

radeon cards do not move

[sharp temple]

Hmm

[earnest olive]

a $1000 build with the best model of 5700xt at 11k time spy score took 2 months to get a trade offer let alone a sale

a $1000 build with the worst model of 1080ti at 9.5k time spy score was gone in 30 minutes

5700xt build was also much better looking and had otherwise similar specs

people buying prebuilts literally do not know what a radeon is

it doesn't matter if you tell them what the equivalent nvidia card is

[sharp temple]

Well best NV GPU I can get around me is a 3060ti for 275

For under 300

[earnest olive]

that's a better option than a $300 6700xt for a flip, but still overpriced

I just passed on a 3080 for $330

[graceful saffron]

3070s can be had new for that price and for used, 3080 is attainable

[earnest olive]

3080 at 275 is a bit of a stretch

275 is more like the average price of a used 3070 still

[sharp temple]

FB market place doesn't have any 3080s withing 10mi for less than 500

[graceful saffron]

Either way buy used and repaste card - end user will not care

[earnest olive]

the absolute max you should pay for a 5600 is 110

[graceful saffron]

Used those are like $80 iirc

[earnest olive]

don't know about itx mobos, but I get matx mobos for 30-40

[graceful saffron]

New i think too but dunno

[earnest olive]

80 no way

that's closer to 3600 price

[sharp temple]

Amazon and microcenter +$160

[earnest olive]

I think your expectations for used prices are a little bit skewed lol

[earnest olive]

again

[sharp temple]

Ok well I have one 5600x for $100 but it's a little far...

[earnest olive]

I mean i just most of my stuff shipped

I hate driving

still can make profit on used shipped items

[sharp temple]

It's on fb marketplace no shipping option

[earnest olive]

fb marketplace does have shipping but I wouldn't trust it

[sharp temple]

How do I tell a good listing for shipping...

This seems too good... but idk

Ebay

[earnest olive]

thats an auction

[sharp temple]

Oh oops

[bright harbor]

is selling a evga geforce gtx 1060 3gb for 50 fair

single fan version

[sharp temple]

$118 BIN

[frigid night]

no

[earnest olive]

its not gonna move

too close to 1060 6gb and rx 580 8gb price

can probably get a bite for 40 but it'll take some time cause few people are in the market for such a card these days

[sharp temple]

What about this orange

[earnest olive]

I already said 110 absolute max for a 5600

I don't like repeating myself

[sharp temple]

So this is ok?

[earnest olive]

.

[sharp temple]

Ok from that message it seems like it's OK, you haven't said "That's fine" so you haven't repeated yourself...

[frigid night]

He may not have said "that's fine", but he did recommend a maximum price.. twice and you still asked a question that warranted the same answer.

[sharp temple]

Well there's no free shipping -$110 5600x on ebay...

[bright harbor]

is it worth upgrading any time soon
ryzen 9 5900x
asus prime X570 pro wifi
nvidia geforce rtx 3080
corsair vengence rgb 32gb 3600mhz
corsair rm1000 1000w psu
kraken z63 with 240mm fans
fractal meshify c mid tower

[frigid night]

That depends.. Do you have the money to keep upgrading every year?

With your current build. You are golden for a while. I'd personally wait another year or 2.

[bright harbor]

was wonder if i should make the jump to 7000 series and ddr5

[frigid night]

How come?

[bright harbor]

just bc honestly

[earnest olive]

if you have to ask the question then the answer is no

[frigid night]

I'd hold off then

[earnest olive]

it's worth upgrading when you can answer that question for yourself

[frigid night]

🙂

[bright harbor]

i mean if i am able to upgrade is it practiclly worth it like are there any games coming out soon that i would beinfit from the jump

[earnest olive]

I mean

yes

you can get a 7800x3d and 4090 and see a benefit in games

that much is pretty obvious

[bright harbor]

yea

[potent portal]

If you're playing competitive games at 1080p ~medium quality then you can see gains using Ryzen 7000 with your 3080. If you're playing in 1440p or higher you'll want to upgrade the GPU first because that's doing most of the work.

(how much those gains in competitive games are varies wildly too)

[livid shadow]

3090 ordered voyos

Just to make sure- the card has 2 8 pins, I just take the GPU cable that came with my PSU and plug in another one

[little osprey]

Two days ahead of schedule for the GF1 PE

Newegg is genuinely just like that

Amazon is lacking

[weak flint]

with prime my package is going to come on the 16th

prime and 4 days of shipping time?

cmon

[earnest olive]

yes, definitely don't daisy chain with a 2x8 3090

separate pcie cables

[livid shadow]

I mean, yeah, that's the idea, I just wanna make sure

[earnest olive]

just confirming for you

[coarse coral]

Wonder how long it will take to get here since it's only 1 hour away

Sips did you know falchie is 2 hours away from us

[mossy lion]

If I can't return it back what ideas do you have to improve the build

[earnest olive]

I have his address 😳

he should have come to wegg meet at asus

[potent portal]

I wasn't invited

[obsidian wigeon]

Sell half of the ram and run the pc with the fastest kit

[untold vessel]

Everyone, what is the generally agreed upon "Optimal Screen Size" (In terms of image quality, lack of seeing pixels, optimal pixel density) for 1080p, 1440p, and 4K? I'm getting general consensuses that it's 27" for 1440p and 32" for 4K.

-Are 27" for 1440p and 32" for 4K truly the generally agreed upon "Best Screen Sizes" for those two resolutions?

-Additionally, what is the "Best Screen Size" for 1080p?

[earnest olive]

24" 1080p

[potent portal]

1080p - anything about 24" and below
1440p - 27-32" depending on how close you sit
4k - 32"+

[earnest olive]

and i'd say yes

[little osprey]

How well would a 6950 XT handle ultrawide 1440p and normal 1080p on the side?

[potent portal]

Perfectly fine

[fossil cedar]

the only intensive thing is the one with the game on it, 1440p uw's can be powered by like a 7th gen igpu just fine

its when you game on them that the problem arrises

[little osprey]

So I'm assuming it'd run fine with games like War Thunder and TF2?

[potent portal]

Yep

Assuming you're not running war thunder at max settings because who does that

The game engine itself lags when you do lol

[little osprey]

Me 😔

I get like 160-180 FPS on movie settings with my 5700 on 1080p

[tawny fiber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZBBRpH

was doing a build for someone in the US

is this as good as it gets for 1500$

[obsidian wigeon]

could be better with 6950xt instead

and swap to am5

case should be focus 2 rgb, since they go for cheap lately

[mossy venture]

4000mhz on am4?

[obsidian wigeon]

oh also yeah, 4000mhz won't run lol

it will but unsynced

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C2yNk9 better performance from this than the one you had for $300 less

or https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3ZMHv3

this is a thing https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pCxvwc

[celest vector]

What is best processor currently for playing diablo 4?

[potent portal]

In what budget

I'll recommend a $600 CPU without a budget lol

[little osprey]

the best cpu for every other game

[vague oracle]

Well, it’s possible but very unlikely

[vague oracle]

13900ks

[little osprey]

@mossy venture, would you say go for the 13600K at $320 or 12600K at $180?

Unsure since I remember someone saying 12600K's IMC doesn't handle DDR5 well

[mossy venture]

12600k has better price/perf there i think

[little osprey]

Would this be an issue?

[mossy venture]

not a clue

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5008vs4603/Intel-i5-13600K-vs-Intel-i5-12600K here's perf comparison though

[potent portal]

That only applies to really high speeds, like 7000+

[little osprey]

13600K has more cores and threads, lower base speed but higher turbo

13600K also has a lower TDP, but whatever

[little osprey]

I only plan to fiddle with timings

I wanna give that T-Create kit a try NGL

[potent portal]

Which one, the 6000 c32?

[little osprey]

I think?

Lemmie double check

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qk9wrH/teamgroup-t-create-classic-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl46-memory-ctccd532g5600hc46dc01

It's this one

5600CL46

[potent portal]

Oh jedec speed

That could be anything

It'll be fun to play with and find out though

[little osprey]

Yeah I thought so

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl32-memory-flbd532g5600hc32dc01

Otherwise was looking at this

[potent portal]

Any DDR5 die should be able to do 6000 at least too

[mossy venture]

this is gauranteed hynix

per felix

[potent portal]

Huh. Guaranteed how? Jedec sticks are tricky

[mossy venture]

not a clue, it's just known to be a hynix die ig

youd have to ask felix or maybe pato how they know

[tawny fiber]

hands down zen4 x3d

[potent portal]

Too bad they're in the sleepy time zones right now

[mossy lion]

Do you have in mind which would be best?

[vague oracle]

Pretty sure buildzoid said that’s guaranteed A-die

[fossil cedar]

ye guaranteed hynix, amzon listing says hynix in the name

[vague oracle]

Let the fun begin

[vague oracle]

@cyan ravine this kit is glorious

I can post 8000

[runic spruce]

how cold is that cpu?

[vague oracle]

Stock, maxes out at 65-70C

OCed

https://tenor.com/view/chiquichico-gif-26004262

[runic spruce]

i9?

[vague oracle]

13900k

Yeah

[runic spruce]

damm thats good

[vague oracle]

Running a 420 and 360 rad

Still regretting the monoblock just because I can’t do direct die with it

[runic spruce]

still good tho

[zenith cargo]

Will I be able to tell a difference if I switch to a 990 pro from a 2500 mbs speed gen 3 ssd?

[runic spruce]

No

Unless your doing something that actually needs fast ssd speed

[zenith cargo]

so games will load up the samwe

same*

[runic spruce]

Yea

[potent portal]

And we all know how reliable those are

[potent portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/589689072692494356/1124931263816552478/image.png

[vague oracle]

The kit I just bought is A-die and buildzoid saying it’s guaranteed A-die, I’m pretty sure it’s A-die

[valid oasis]

Hey would anyone want to help me get my new build to post?

[obsidian wigeon]

What's the problem you have?

Any debug leds lit?

What is your cpu, board and ram kit?

[valid oasis]

so my build is the asrock b550 phantom gaming 4/ac and I have a ryzen 7 5800x. It wouldn't post and gave me a red cpu and dram light. I tried reseating the cpu, ram, and gpu. I figured it just needs a bios update so i tried booting it with a 3600 and it's still giving me the same lights and not posting

I have two 16gb ram sticks, my gpu, the wifi card, cpu, and cpu fan all installed on the motherboard

[obsidian wigeon]

Is this a brand new build?

[valid oasis]

And I've tried doing single channel and dual channel for the ram

Yes. All the parts are brand new

[obsidian wigeon]

If so I would try booting with all the parts in, 5800x too

Wait for up to 5 minutes

Since you need the board to do ram training and first boot

[valid oasis]

Okay

But it's turning on the CPU fan and then it turns back off

Like it seems like nothing is even staying on

Even the post status lights only flash for a second

[obsidian wigeon]

Try checking for any loose and/or incorrect connectors

You could also do a cmos reset

[valid oasis]

I mean I think everything's connected properly but I am kind of a noob

Yeah I've done a cmos reset

[obsidian wigeon]

Okay, tell me where do you have case power switch cable plugged into

DM me a pic if possible

[valid oasis]

I haven't connected a case power switch yet

[obsidian wigeon]

Hm, okay

[valid oasis]

It's not letting me send a photo

[obsidian wigeon]

I would suggest trying that

Yeah you have to dm me instead

You don't have enough levels yet

[valid oasis]

Ohhh okay

[valid oasis]

I dmed you

[obsidian wigeon]

Gimme a sec

[leaden mauve]

what is it

[vague oracle]

An actually good ram kit for overclocking

2x16 A-die DDR5 kit

[leaden mauve]

what bin

[vague oracle]

Wdym?

[leaden mauve]

xmp

[vague oracle]

No XMP

[leaden mauve]

what's the kit rated for

post a picture of the label if you're not sure

[vague oracle]

5600 46-46-46-90

[leaden mauve]

oh alright

how much did that kit cost

was that the 53 dollar one?

[mossy venture]

$73 I belive

[vague oracle]

$73

[quasi yew]

currently building my pc and it’s not turning on…. can someone help?

[fleet heron]

You'd probably want to give more information than that lol

[quasi yew]

true 💀

I have everything plugged up except for my gpu but my pc is not booting

my motherboard is rgb and it’s lights are on but that’s all

[frigid night]

What CPU do you have?

[quasi yew]

ryzen 5 7600

I got it to boot up but it’s now stuck on the bios screen

[frigid night]

Like bios splash screen or bios itself?

[quasi yew]

splash screen

[frigid night]

Ok. Have you tried turning it off and back on again?

[quasi yew]

yes

it just takes me to the bios settings

[frigid night]

That's normal if you don't have storage with windows on it

[quasi yew]

oml 🤦🏽‍♂️

I forgot to install windows

thank you

[frigid night]

It do be like that sometimes

[little osprey]

which motherboard brand do you guys like

[flint sapphire]

The cheap one

But if given a choice I’d go for the asrock taichi cuz it has a gear and gaudy accents ⚙️

[fossil cedar]

Model,price, availability matter really, only one's I'd basically never buy unless they're super cheap and you're on a low budget are biostar and maxsun

Probably fine but lack of support

[little osprey]

Hey, I have a question/concern. I built my PC i am using a Open Air case the motif monument. I have the B650i Aorus Mini ITX board with a dual stacked heatsink. The bottom M.2 runs at 55-56c idle and during peak benchmarks using CrystalDiskMark its never goest above 68c. Is that ok for a m.2 that has no airflow going over it since its in a open air "case"

PC pictured the m.2 is between the cpu heatsink and gpu

i am really ocd and concerned about breaking my pc

[little osprey]

Thanks, maybe you can help with above question?

I have my A/C running too. While gaming i never see it get above 63

[runic spruce]

Should be ok

[obsidian wigeon]

That's okay and expected temp for m.2 ssds

[runic spruce]

Just make sure it doesn’t pass it’s rated spec

Cool case btw

[little osprey]

yeah Motif Monumenbt

[obsidian wigeon]

It won't pass cause if it gets too hot speed will drop pretty hard

But generally 68c is okay, not throttling

[fossil cedar]

did you put the included heatsink over the m.2? and if so did you remember to peel the plastic off the thermal pads

[little osprey]

yes i did all that

[fossil cedar]

68c is a bit hot for an ssd

hmm

[little osprey]

remember there is no airflow over the m.2

[obsidian wigeon]

It's a bit hot ya, but really fine

[runic spruce]

Gen 5 nvme?

[little osprey]

no 3

[obsidian wigeon]

gen 5 wouldn't stand a chance lmao

[fossil cedar]

i would remount the m.2 heatsink that doesnt sound right

[little osprey]

its at the lower part of the heatsink above the PCH

the pch is 53c

[fossil cedar]

pch?

[little osprey]

Chipset

[obsidian wigeon]

pch, chipset

[fossil cedar]

ive never seen that acronym before interesting

[little osprey]

the M.2 is at the lowest part near the chipset

when im actual idle and doing nothing it drops to 50c 49c

The mini itx board has a stacked M.2 and the bottom M.2 is the warmest at 55c idle. Again the chipset under it is 52c so i do get heat from it with no airflow

[fossil cedar]

actually let me see what my drives get in benchmarks as theyre actually idling around the same temps

[little osprey]

really there idling at same temp

[fossil cedar]

well my gen4 is but my gen3 is cooler but thats also doing nothing, gen 4 has OS running

[little osprey]

my top m.2 is at 45c

yep my gen 3 has my os so its warmer

[runic spruce]

My gen 3 nvme idles in like the mid 40s I think

And then goes into the mid 50s under load

[little osprey]

Remember mine is burried in a dual stack heatsink like above and the chipset is above it at 53c

also its a open case

i pictured above

[runic spruce]

Yea mine is in a regular airflow case, I don’t think u can do much about nvme temps but your drives should be alright

[little osprey]

i might actually be moving to a different build anyway probably a 4080 and 13600k

i am really worried my pc will break thats all

[runic spruce]

It won’t break from the nvme running slightly hot

[little osprey]

if i were to take a mini fan and blow air over it then the temps would go down alot

can i take a thermal pad and place a 40mm fan ontop of my gpu with the thermal pad so it secures to the gpu and have it blow over it

[little osprey]

do u thin that would be a better idea?

[runic spruce]

Blowing a fan towards the nvme heat sink would prob help a little bit but not worth it imo

[runic spruce]

And if u mean placing a thermal pad like from the nvme heat sink to the gpu heat sink it wouldn’t really work

[fossil cedar]

crystal disk mark brought up my ssd by about 10c so that seems right but ive airflow and a lower ambient probably too

[little osprey]

so then based on my setup i should be ok

[runic spruce]

Yea

[fossil cedar]

probably

[little osprey]

i think its mostly because of airflow

[little osprey]

Warning Temp is 82c and Critical Temp is 85c and i never reached those and i have this computer for 6 months

so i would assume i am safe

checked HWinfo64

[fossil cedar]

should be fine ye

[minor wing]

Anyone have any idea why my gpu won’t turn on when I upgraded my cpu?

Everything else turns on except for the gpu

[potent portal]

So it's able to boot and get to windows?

I'm just a bit confused on what you're defining "turning on" as

[minor wing]

Yea no worries

Like the fans don’t start and nothing is displayed

[minor wing]

Everything was fine before I’m pretty confident I plugged everything back in to the correct spot

[potent portal]

Oh that sounds like you needed to update your bios

What were you upgrading the CPU from and to?

And on what motherboard?

[minor wing]

I upgraded from a 3600 to 5600x and have a b450 tomahawk max

[mossy venture]

did you update bios?

[minor wing]

No

Is that most likely why?

[mossy venture]

with that mobo it should be easy, i believe it has a bios flash button

it's almost definitely why

I'd be fairly confident saying it is why

[minor wing]

I would have to switch the cpu back to do it I assume ?

[mossy venture]

not if the mobo has a bios flash button

one sec let me check if it does

[minor wing]

Oh ok I’ll check

Alright thanks

[mossy venture]

yeah it does

do you have another computer or laptop someone would let you use or you own?

and a flash drive?

[minor wing]

I have a laptop arriving today luckily but not sure when it arrives just says today

Also have a flash drive

Wait I do have my moms pc totally blanked

[mossy venture]

that works, if you go to msis website it'll have a tutorial of what to do to update bios

or could follow one on youtube

[minor wing]

Yea I’ll most likely follow one on YouTube

Appreciate your help

[plush harness]

What’s a recommended intake outake # for a case like this

[potent portal]

Side and bottom in, top and back out

As far as how many fans you should use, you can just do 3 bottom and 3 top and that'll be plenty

(assuming you're using high end parts that need lots of air)

[plush harness]

Alright

[runic spruce]

Putting a fan here is kinda useless

[fossil cedar]

Not necessarily although it's definitely the last one I'd populate

[weak flint]

9 exhaust ?

no intake?

https://tenor.com/view/hi-cutie-sunderland-balls-baller-gif-16017134

[strong raft]

Some are reversed, but also it's just a stock photo.

[weak flint]

prisma fans cant be reversed

btw i would put the radiator on the side i feel like thats way prettier but ofc not my choice

[strong raft]

Some fans have reverse models. Indeed most people would do side intake rad for a bit better temps too.

[graceful saffron]

wrlong

in a case like that it should be a reservoir but a fan right there in a typical mid tower can be pretty important

[graceful saffron]

side radiator does not look better if you want proper cooling

cause not every AIO has tubes long enough to go around GPU

which forces the tubes to go on topside

if its side mounted top tubes vs top mounted aio i'd take the top mounted all day ~ it lasts longer

it's really only relevant if you plan to keep the AIO for 5+ years

[lone flame]

all of a sudden my pc wasnt displaying on my monitor, i turned off and on again and its fine, but now my games are crashing and im losing frames. I got this message

also my gpu isnt displayed on my task manager anymore

i just build my pc like a week ago for the first time

@frigid night

i saw you're online

[frigid night]

Shut PC off. Unplug PSU. Reseat GPU (on Mobo and the cables plugged into Mobo). Plug PSU back in. Turn PC on and see if that works.

[lone flame]

how do i take the gpu out

theres like a latch

behind it

right

on the mobo

[frigid night]

Yes.

[lone flame]

alright

i figured it was a gpu thing considering its just gone from my task manager lol

any idea what would cause it?

[frigid night]

Not sure atm, but I'm just gonna have you reseat GPU so we can knock out it being loose right away.

Also, what GPU do you have?

[lone flame]

6700 XT

I see the thing to unlock it it’s just under my cpu cooler

Ok I got it out

[lone flame]

That looks correctly reseated correct?

[frigid night]

If you pushed it in and heard/felt the tab click then yes.

Make sure the cables are plugged all the way into the GPU as well.

[lone flame]

Yup everything clicked and slid In correctly

Gonna boot it back up let’s see

[lone flame]

still not showing up

it has power