building-and-recc-chat

[weak flint]

good parts though nice job

[serene onyx]

Thanks

[noble sinew]

Guys is there a huge difference between a 3200mhz CL16 and a 3600mhz CL18 in a NAS server?

The 3200mhz one is cheaper tho

[weak flint]

go for the cheaper one

[cyan ravine]

Cheaper is king

[weak flint]

2G max 8G should be more than enough for a nas

[runic spruce]

Should be almost the same

Every 1cl is basically 200mhz

[weak flint]

damn got a msi b650m for C$130

i rlly wanna go for the 4060 😂 wanna try out the card see what its all about

7700 x 4060?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/h7nZnt

dont mind the case i got it for free lmfao

[little osprey]

@mossy venture, hate to bother you

But is $170 about normal for a Z690 with DDR5 and wifi?

I haven’t checked any Z790’s yet but I’ll go do that RQ

Hmmm, Z790 ID AX is $180 but you said it handles memory tuning better?

[dark frost]

Hello

I have a question

Do you need ICue command to control your corsair fans?

[weak flint]

no thats a fan hub you can controll your corsair fans by plugging them into your motherboard or a fan hub that will also connect to your motherboard. from there you can set fan curves in your bios (although on some bios like msi it sucks) or just use corsairs rgb software

[golden hedge]

Hi there, I'm looking to upgrade my parts on my current pc. Im running an intel build with an i7-9700k with an old Aorus board optimized for my processor as well as a 3070 and im looking to switch to team red. Im looking to upgrade my CPU motherboard and GPU. Ive taken interest in AMD CPUs and GPUs recently and was looking to sell my 3070 for something on team red. Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you in advance.

[weak flint]

do you have a budget or any money to add to that?

[golden hedge]

Not necessarily i guess the best I could say budget wise would be maybe 700 at max but idk if thats a good number to start with

[weak flint]

its ok, uh in total how much do you think you can sell those products for?

things like ram will also need to be considers, i'd go for new ddr5 ram if you could possibly seel those for 400-500 in total which i think you can

also please specify a country (for the perpous of me finding better deals)

[golden hedge]

I may be able to get a total of 500 out of it and i figured i could do the rest of the funding on my own. Im located in the US. Im interested in upgrading to ddr5 ram I just wouldnt know where to start with amd since im new to it

[weak flint]

ok so i'll set it at $1100~1200

@golden hedge https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YRWWMb

best amd gpu right now after 4080 is the fastest gpu currently

7600 is an amazing cpu also gives you a cpu cooler

and the ram

[golden hedge]

Awesome! Thank you so much!

[weak flint]

np, this is a very high end build. just make sure your psu is well enough to handle this

[low jetty]

Do I usb flash drives really need to be less then 32 gb to flash the bios or is that motherboard dependent?

Since my 64 gb usb flash is not comming up when I’m trying to flash my bios with it

[weak flint]

also since your based in the us you can benifit from the sales that will start (both neweggs sale and amazon prime day) @golden hedge so i'd wait a couple of days for that to satart

[golden hedge]

Thank you for the reminder ill keep a look out!

[weak flint]

yeah its normal for it to not recognize it

i think it works on some bios'es but generally wont detect

[low jetty]

Ahh ok

Just gonna have to do a little switch then

Thank you

[mossy venture]

Not a clue

[static parcel]

everyone keeps saying get this

and amd

i just like nivida xD

i prefer it for the asthetics and dlss

[weak flint]

fsr is just as good, besides in game amd is superior

[serene onyx]

Guys

What do I use to install my mobo

The mobo only came with 3 screws

🧍🏽‍♂️

[weak flint]

doesn't ur case have screws?

[static parcel]

fsr?

[serene onyx]

Idek

[weak flint]

yeah it's amds dlss

[weak flint]

check in the PSU slot usually there

[serene onyx]

Nvm

[static parcel]

wow.

[serene onyx]

Ur right

I foundnit

🤦🏽‍♂️

Bruh

Thanks

[weak flint]

those motherboard screws are for nvme

np

[mossy venture]

@autumn wolf

[ember yarrow]

like amazon but for health supplements and stuff like protein

[serene onyx]

I cannot put my graphics card in

And I'm scared

This is so stressful

😭

What I got so far

Nvm I got it in, that was scary

Can anyone show me where the connectors go

Can I get some help

[low jetty]

Anyone got any tips to deal with the IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL when installing windows

Like it got to 5% copying windows files then just blue screened

And now when sitting on the start of the windows install screen it just blue screens after a certain period of time and say some like pfn list corrupt

[low jetty]

Nevermind o think I fixed it

Just turned of expo and everything is seeming normal

[serene onyx]

Guys

Which pin does the power button go too?

What's gnd

I also still need to connect the sata

Idk how to do it

There's like 4 different sata cables

There's the BIG one and the small one

Idk

I'm scared my pc is not gonna work

[obsidian wigeon]

gnd means ground

and the two sata cables you're speaking that are different, well one is data, another is power

just connect them accordingly

[serene onyx]

I have nvme, do I need the sata?

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

don't worry about that

[serene onyx]

Ok

@obsidian wigeon the power button did nothing it didn't turn on

I'll wait a Lil longer

[obsidian wigeon]

again, patience is key

try to take a break from it or something

[serene onyx]

Ok

So is the mobo changing colors like rgb good?

[obsidian wigeon]

it just means it's working

[serene onyx]

I think ik why it's not working

Does the power switch connector have to be on ground?

🤦🏽‍♂️

And on the power?

😭

Cause I think the reason it's not turning on is cause I accidentally put it on the power led

🤦🏽‍♂️

[potent portal]

A few things to try in order to stabilize expo:
Make sure the sticks are in slots 2 and 4
Update your bios
Set uclk=mclk
Set vsoc to 1.1v

After you have windows installed successfully ofc, so you can test it properly

[serene onyx]

@obsidian wigeon do u think that'd the reason?

[potent portal]

Yes having it wired incorrectly could cause that

[serene onyx]

So it's supposed to be power switch and ground?

[potent portal]

Yes

[low jetty]

Welp it was me being over confident thinking I remembered everything from the first time I built PCs but I turned on expo before windows was installed …….

[serene onyx]

Ok no wonder it wasn't turning on

I had it as power and power led

[potent portal]

Tbf it's not you. It's supposed to work just fine with just that toggle on, but this is first gen tech so there's a few hiccups.

[low jetty]

Yea I was so scared my old pc had a lot of issues so I thought I serious fried something 😂

[serene onyx]

IT TUENED ON

Less goo

@obsidian wigeon

I HAD IT CONNECTED WRONG

Uh oh

I have error leds

Nvm

IT WORKS

IT WORKS

LETS GOO

IT WORKS

GUHS

THE PAIN N SUFFERING PAYED OFF

[potent portal]

🥳

[serene onyx]

Damn, the front case rgbs aren't working, I knew this was gonna happen 🤦🏽‍♂️

[potent portal]

Sometimes they don't work until you install the software

I think it was Corsair that was infamous for that, could be wrong

[serene onyx]

I have the phanteks case

I heard the rgb is a pain in the ass to get working

[potent portal]

Which one exactly

[frigid night]

He to busy with his new PC to worry about front LEDs ATM xD

[serene onyx]

Sorry I went to Walmart

[serene onyx]

NO CAUSE, I WENT TO WALMART AND NOW IM DOWNLOADING WINDIWS TO THE USB I BOUGHT

I have the phanteks g360a?

[potent portal]

Did you plug in the SATA power to the RGB controller?

[serene onyx]

Erm

The what to what

No

[potent portal]

That would be why then lol

[serene onyx]

Idk if it has a rgb controller

[potent portal]

The one on the right

[serene onyx]

OHHH

So I have to plug that sata cable into the mobo?

[potent portal]

To the PSU

[serene onyx]

Oh ok

I'll do it rn

I plugged the Sata into the plug, and now it still doesn't work

And now I have a red light on my mobo

Ima kms

Wait, ik why

🤦🏽‍♂️ I didn't plug the other end into the mobo

Bruh

Nvm, I'm lost

@potent portal

[potent portal]

You plugged the 3 pin into the motherboard?

[serene onyx]

WAIT

I FIXED IT

All I had to do was unplug the rgb thing

And boom now the rgb buttons and everything is lighting up

Thanks for helping me

[potent portal]

Don't thank me yet, you still need to see if you can control it

[serene onyx]

I can

The mode buttons and color button work now too

[potent portal]

Ah good

Well, happy to help then

[serene onyx]

🙏🏼

Appreciate it

[frigid night]

That's lookin pretty good. Awesome job man.

[serene onyx]

Thanks guys

Thanks to everyone who helped me with this build 🙏🏼

Now my bottom fan isn't working 😭

AREU KINDING ME RN

Man, this is gonna be the 5th time I unplug and open up this pc

Fixed it

[frigid night]

That's the fun of building PCs 🙂

[serene onyx]

Realest thing I've heard

My build so sexy

[quasi yew]

Can I get help on my first pc build? My budget is $1.2k

[potent portal]

US? I'm guessing this is for gaming, do you have any special needs like wifi?

[quasi yew]

Yes, gaming and a little Blender

also yes to the wifi

[potent portal]

Ok blender does prefer Nvidia GPUs, how important is that to you?

AMD is cheaper for better performance but Blender doesn't like it nearly as much

[quasi yew]

Could I find a Nvidia in budget while still having other high quality components?

[potent portal]

Yes

It would mean going to a lower tier GPU though

[weak flint]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V7FFwc

i know you guys will hate the gpu

but i mean a little bit of blender and gaming a 4060 ti is actually good for

[potent portal]

If by 4060 ti you mean a 3060 ti with DLSS 3.0

[obsidian wigeon]

4060ti is worse thou lol

[weak flint]

its that or the 6750xt

[obsidian wigeon]

that is in blender

[weak flint]

you sure? i saw benchmarks saying its even better than the 3070 in blender

[cyan ravine]

Oh wait 1.2K? I wonder if I can fit a 6900xt or 6950

I can, neat.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WvQ8hk

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gfc3fv

[weak flint]

damn my eyes not working

[obsidian wigeon]

this is with 4070

1200 with 12 cents lmao

ssd can be swapped for m371 to slide under 1,2k

[potent portal]

My contribution to the debate https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7N4Rfv

[obsidian wigeon]

tt gf a3 is b tier btw

[cyan ravine]

All good. Yours isn't bad tbh. I can see you making good choices

[obsidian wigeon]

speculative b but still

[weak flint]

i have no clue on the us market never knew these were soo cheap lol

[cyan ravine]

6950xt probably the winning pick

[quasi yew]

I’ll look at all the parts lists and see what I can work with

[cyan ravine]

Unless you desperately need cuda/optix or some specific RT

[quasi yew]

thank y’all

[cyan ravine]

Np

[potent portal]

I'm looking for the exact numbers but it is significantly worse in blender

I saw someone saying it's comparable to a laptop 3070

[cyan ravine]

Ye

Nah it's worse

But for games it's far and beyond a winner

Optix is the reason

Nvidia optix is something blender is obsessed with

[potent portal]

If gaming is the #1 priority yeah 6950 all day. But only if you don't mind your blender render taking 60 minutes instead of 30.

[quasi yew]

na I gotta maximize those blender times

[cyan ravine]

Maybe go with the only decent value nvidia card rn 👀
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NJvdnQ/pny-verto-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-lhr-8-gb-video-card-vcg3060t8ldfbpb1

Go significantly under budget but value for money you'd still be way on top instead of cutting into the nvidia tax

[quasi yew]

mkmk

[potent portal]

Here we go got a few numbers

[cyan ravine]

That's one of if not the only card I'd suggest it being on equal terms with AMD value that 3060 Ti

[potent portal]

The 4070 is comparable to a 3080 so you can extrapolate that

[cyan ravine]

So 6950 about 2080ti

Slightly worse than the 3060 Ti but far better in games

[potent portal]

A little slower than one probably since it's only better memory over the 6900

[obsidian wigeon]

i would personally settle with worse gaming for speedy render with optix if blender were to be my main thing

if 1080p gaming

[potent portal]

Yeah if it cut my render time in half I'd settle for the 4070 too. That feels weird to say on a GPU that can easily handle 1440p, provided the memory doesn't fill out.

[obsidian wigeon]

1440p doable on 12gb just don't gotta be maxing out

[potent portal]

Oh right it is 12GB on the 4070 isn't it

Well no issues there then

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

if it was 8gb i'd be angry at nvidia tho lmao

[languid nimbus]

I’ve got the 10gb 3080 rip

[burnt spruce]

Is it hard to install gpu?

[obsidian wigeon]

no

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JJRYcf/gigabyte-z690-aorus-elite-ax-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-aorus-elite-ax

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/K9Fbt6/msi-pro-z690-a-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-a-wifi

Alright well I got my Amazon credit from the return so now I’m looking between these two boards

Which one would be better for gaming and memory tuning?

[burnt spruce]

anyone know what's the problem

when I installed the gpu suddenly when I type sometimes it keeps spamming single letter

I tried updating the keyboard driver

wasnt able to fix it

[little osprey]

Yeah but some tend to handle things better than others

That’s like saying a DS3H and Aorus Pro are the same

Alright

One sec

Ordering it RN

[earnest olive]

this is not a good way to look at it

the msi pro z690-a ddr5 is not a good board for ram oc

@little osprey if you want to oc ddr5 you should really get z790

no?

[little osprey]

Higher end ones probably

[little osprey]

I did see the Z790 UD AC for $180

@earnest olive, is there one better than the other?

I have like $130 in Amazon credit and tossed in an extra $75

So I’m around $200 for a board

Though my question is if I just want a Z690 for purely DDR5 would it be fine?

[earnest olive]

I think I remember hearing that the z790 pg lightning is decent for ddr5 oc but not sure

[earnest olive]

I mean... depends on how you define fine

if you're going to oc it I'd get z790

[jagged ember]

What about xmp

[earnest olive]

...there are z790s within $200

the pg lightning is 180

[earnest olive]

well what xmp profile

[jagged ember]

Uhh

Fastest one

[earnest olive]

then maybe you should spend 3 seconds of effort to look

less time than you spent saying z790s are all above $200

[earnest olive]

get a z790 apex and then question your life choices as to why you spent $72217179 on an xmp 8200 kit to get worse performance than some dude running tuned ddr4

[jagged ember]

Lmaooo

[earnest olive]

common xmp L

[little osprey]

I wasn’t planning to do anything major, just wanted to get that T-Create DDR5 kit and fiddle around with it

[earnest olive]

so you want to oc a-die

get z790

[little osprey]

Are these the same then?

[earnest olive]

AC is wifi 5 and AX is wifi 6

[little osprey]

So AX is better value

[earnest olive]

sure

I don't know how good the UD is

think it was @wheat coral that said something about the pg lightning being good for budget ddr5 oc

ask him when he's awake maybe

[little osprey]

I suppose I’d need a wifi card for that but alright

[jagged ember]

There's wifi 7 now too

[quasi yew]

what do y’all think about the zotac 4060ti

[earnest olive]

all 4060tis are bad

unless you're getting them for significantly below msrp then maybe

[mossy venture]

Unless they're same price or cheaper than 6700xt, I wouldn't even consider one

[jagged ember]

Zotac meme too

[earnest olive]

used 3070s are sub 300 as well if nvidia features are required

[wheat coral]

yes, its a good board, should do pretty great for d5 oc, obvi not the best

[earnest olive]

there you have it

[jagged ember]

3070s are the good ones

[wheat coral]

no z690 board besides dark will do good for d5 oc, make sure youre doing z790/b760

[little osprey]

Any budget Z790 board recommendations?

I was eying the UD AC but unsure if that’s any good

Was told you tried the PG Lightning

[wheat coral]

pg lightning

basically the cheapest z790 board, its a good board and looks nice

UD AX is a thing too, same with UD AC

[lone flame]

Is this fully inserted into the socket

First build I am just being very sure lol

[wheat coral]

yes it is

[lone flame]

👍

[lone flame]

The arm isn’t closing

Like it feels like I have to apply tons of force to close it

Is that normal

[runic spruce]

Try more force

The lid on it should pop off

[lone flame]

The lid is off

[runic spruce]

And the lever isn’t locked?

[lone flame]

When I go to move the lever it feels like I have to apply tons of pressure

[runic spruce]

Push the lever to the right a little bit so it can go under the hook

[lone flame]

The amount of force I am using to try and move the lever doesn’t feel normal though

[runic spruce]

I mean all u have to do is push down, there’s really noting else to do

[obsidian wigeon]

if everything is lined up right

applying force shouldn't break anything

in your case it looks like it did slot in

[lone flame]

As I apply pressure I hear it like freaking

creaking

Then I stop

[obsidian wigeon]

when in doubt reseat the cpu

double check then continue using the lever

but tbh this is zero force insertion so you definitely put the cpu on right way up

[lone flame]

Dms

[obsidian wigeon]

we can talk about it here

no one's gonna judge ya lol

[runic spruce]

The creaking is prob bc the lever is also pushing down on like the top of the bracket

[lone flame]

That’s a terrible video but I feels like

So much prwssure

[obsidian wigeon]

that's normal

you have to use that much force

[obsidian wigeon]

the creaking you hear is the mechanism locking the cpu in place

[lone flame]

Ok I went for it it’s in

[obsidian wigeon]

it's there so cpu doesn't fall out ofc

[obsidian wigeon]

yep, that's done

[lone flame]

Ok, that was the big thing I was unsure about on the motherboard it just felt weird to use so much force

[obsidian wigeon]

now with cooler you want to never forget peeling protective plastic off on the coldplate

aka bottom of the cooler

[runic spruce]

Make sure there’s thermal paste btw

[obsidian wigeon]

and thread in the screws evenly

so you get good mount

[runic spruce]

Btw u want to screw the cooler is like a diagonal pattern to get good mounting pressure

Doing like one spin then going over to the next screw

[lone flame]

Do I have to take the little sticker off the ssd

[runic spruce]

No

[earnest olive]

watch a build guide video instead of asking about every step of the process

[lone flame]

I am lol

[earnest olive]

save everyone's time including your own waiting for answers

[runic spruce]

Stabilizers

Idk but should be on yt

[lone flame]

Is there a reason my top right and bottom right screws are having such trouble going in compared to the other two

[serene onyx]

I have the same mobo

And tbh

I had the same problem

Just keep screwing them in, I think it's like that cause the screw holes are a Lil too small

Cause I had to forcefully screw them in

@lone flame

[lone flame]

I’ve almost complete stripped one

[serene onyx]

😬

Yeah, cause for me it was 3 of the screws that where having a hard time

I just had to keep screwing with force until they went down

Cause if u look on the back side, the holes are a Lil small

[lone flame]

3 of them are in

The one is sticking out a bit but honestly I think should be fine?

[little osprey]

Yeah UD AX I meant

[serene onyx]

Yeah, as long as the bracket isn't loose

[little osprey]

Has wifi 6 I think

[serene onyx]

If it's loose and moves a Lil too much be careful

[lone flame]

It’ll only move if i put effort in to move it

[serene onyx]

Ok yeah, it should be good then

Cause I left a screw like that with mines

[little osprey]

Of the two would the UD AX be fine since it’s save me the trouble of dealing with a wifi card?

Or is the PG Lightning just a better option?

[serene onyx]

How do I get Bluetooth working on my mobo

It has Bluetooth, I'm trying to install the Bluetooth drivers but idk how

[stoic island]

Go to mobo website and download the drivers there

[stoic island]

Whichever is cheaper

[lone flame]

Too much or not enough paste?

[little osprey]

Both the same price, one has wifi and the other doesn’t

[stoic island]

Then do ud ac assuming there's no other issues

[stoic island]

Probably fine? Can't tell until you spread it

[little osprey]

Is there any reason to go UD AC (Wifi 5) over UD AX (Wifi 6)?

[stoic island]

Should be cheaper

I don't think there's any other difference but you can check

[little osprey]

Both are $180

[little osprey]

Only issue I’m seeing from reviews is coil whine which I still don’t understand what that is despite my CX650M having it

I guess I don’t hear it while gaming or listening to music

[stoic island]

Coil whine can get louder depending on what you're doing

But mobo coil whine usually isn't that bad

[wheat coral]

probably

udax is fine

[little osprey]

https://a.co/d/4vk2eIr

Alright

I’ll go order it RN

[wheat coral]

is that your last piece?

[little osprey]

Appreciate the help as always guys

[wheat coral]

also remember its d5 not d4

[little osprey]

No, just need RAM and PSU

And CPU

[wheat coral]

ah ok

[little osprey]

But I’m thinking about a 13400F or 13600KF now

If they go on sale or course

[serene onyx]

Pretty good I think

[wheat coral]

on amd, spread your paste out with like an arcade card or something, its not like intel where the heat is just in the middle, on amd its the entire IHS

[serene onyx]

Alr

[sudden seal]

Hey guys I have a Asus laptop and the screen just went black is this a ram issue

It comes on but the screen stays black

[potent portal]

Does it flicker if you close it partially?

[sudden seal]

It it just show the Asus logo and after a black screen but the rbg lights come on with the fan spinning

[weak flint]

use the plastic included to spread it out

you dont want that thermalpaste going into those "holes"

[potent portal]

Are you able to get into bios? You should be able to from hitting delete when that logo comes up

[sudden seal]

I haven't tried tht

[sudden seal]

It shows please wait and just stays black

[modest phoenix]

Guys is this a good prebuilt with a 2k budget?

The 500 left i can buy a 1440p monitor

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-azure2-0690-b-ne/p/N82E16883289337

[lone flame]

I don’t understand cables at all bro

[weak flint]

it sucks

if you wanna get way better performance for way cheaper

just go get the pcparts and assemble it or pay someone to do it

[potent portal]

Try clearing CMOS next, the exact procedure will vary by your model

[weak flint]

it should cost less and will give you way better performance

[potent portal]

Skytech is one of the worst brands for prebuilt

Or free if you just don't activate it

[lone flame]

idk what the hell im doing

I knew I shouldn’t of tried building

I knew I couldn’t do cables

Idk what I’m even lookin at

I’ve been stuck on cables for like anhour

I have extensions

Do those go directly into the

Psu

Ok that’s what I thought

[potent portal]

The extension goes between the cable and the motherboard

[weak flint]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7PymVw @modest phoenix

[lone flame]

I understand that

I still don’t understand what goes into the cpu

Psu*

And what the hell this is that came with the case

[weak flint]

just watch a video on YouTube detailing their use and use ur motherboards manual to find the pins

[weak flint]

it's for ur fans it's a fanhub

[potent portal]

That's an ARGB splitter, you'll need to plug into the SATA power

[weak flint]

yo before building you might wanna get some more info on pcs

[lone flame]

I’ve watched tutorials and videos for the past few weeks

[weak flint]

watch a building guide on YouTube and ask ur questions here or something you don't wanna mess it up.

[potent portal]

It can be stressful for your first build, don't be too hard on him

[lone flame]

I understand the most part I am just so bad with cables

My motherboard and everything is in fine so far

That was easy just very tedious

[weak flint]

yeah nothing a video can't help with

[lone flame]

I’ve been following techsources

He lost me when he started explaining cables

[weak flint]

it's ok. watch multiple videos until you get a good understanding and then continue

or follow along with the videos

[potent portal]

Take it one at a time, looking at the big pile of cables only makes it worse

[weak flint]

yeah there are many good videos to having good cable management . sperating the cables, etc can help alot

[lone flame]

Yeah you could say that

[lone flame]

I still don’t know

I feel so stupid

[serene onyx]

I'll help

@lone flame

[lone flame]

I still don’t understand what the cables coming out of the back are

[modest phoenix]

I should get this instead then?

[lone flame]

I understand they are fans

But I don’t understand how they hook up

Like this?

That still leaves all these

Ye

[serene onyx]

@lone flame bro me and u have the same mobo, and where both just as confused

[lone flame]

I’m just so overwhelmed I hate managing cables so much

My motherboard, ram, cpu, cpu cooler are all installed in the case already

I’ve just been starting and watching cable videos for the past like hour

[serene onyx]

Bro, the cable videos are so bad

I struggled with the videos too

It took me like 2 hours of reading the manuals

[lone flame]

am I able to take a pc somewhere and have them build it for me

I legit cannot do this

Video after video confuses me more

[serene onyx]

Bro

I can explain it to u

What do u need to plug in

Send me pictures of the wires

And a clear picture of the whole mobo

@lone flame

I went through the same pain yesterday

[flint sapphire]

Those cables look like your front io, aka your power button hdd indicator and USB’s with a fan header or two

[flint sapphire]

You can play a matching game with the headers on your motherboard but they all just generally plug in on it

[lone flame]

Idk what a header is

[serene onyx]

Now send the wire u need to plug in

[lone flame]

It’s the smaller ones right

[serene onyx]

I'll color code them for u

I'll circle it

[lone flame]

Literally everything

[serene onyx]

Send a picture of each wire, like the end of all of them

[flint sapphire]

It’s the pins on the motherboard that are sticking up at you

[serene onyx]

Or just the stack of wires next to each other

BRO WE HAVE THE SAME COOLER AND MOBO ETF

😭💀

[serene onyx]

Ok I gotchu

Give me a min so I can label the pictures for u

[serene onyx]

U see those 3 Lil wires, what are the cables labeled as, like those 3 Lil tiny 2 pin ones

[lone flame]

There’s also this that confuses me

[frigid night]

That's your RGB hub. It looks linked to your case's reset button so you press that and change the lighting of yours fans.

[flint sapphire]

Whata guy

[frigid night]

At the bottom of this pic is another little connector. What does that one say on it?

[serene onyx]

There's gonna be 3 of the same Lil connectors on the bottom

U can connect the red one into any of the 3

[lone flame]

Power sw

[serene onyx]

Hold on the image is still sending

[frigid night]

Alright. Do you have the manual to your mobo?

[lone flame]

Ye

[serene onyx]

Do u understand the pictures I sent?@lone flame

[frigid night]

Find the page that tells you which of those little connectors goes into which pins on your mobo.

[serene onyx]

I have the same mobo, I'll do the same with Lil pins

[frigid night]

Would just be faster if he looked at the manual tbh

It's what it's there for lol

[serene onyx]

I struggled just like him yesterday

[frigid night]

I'm sorry you struggled.

[lone flame]

How do I know when the blue one is in

[lone flame]

I did it makes no sense

[serene onyx]

It'll go all the way down

It'll snap it

[frigid night]

Just make sure you push it straight in. It's easy to bend those pins on the mobo

[frigid night]

Usb3 won't snap

[serene onyx]

That's true

[serene onyx]

Did it go in and sorta like snap in?

[lone flame]

It clicked i assume it’s good yes

[serene onyx]

Yes its good then

[lone flame]

Dm me any colored pictures you send so they don’t get buried

[serene onyx]

I will

Hey yk the fan cooler

Idk if u wanna keep it connected where u have it connected

Cause when u slide in ur gpu it's gonna be under it and idk if it'll mess up the cord

If u look above ur cooler fan, at the top of the mobo, you'll see the same connector for the fan, I say plug it in there

[lone flame]

It had two cables

One for the fan and the other for rgb it said

[serene onyx]

Alright

[frigid night]

Nvm

[serene onyx]

@lone flame

[frigid night]

I was looking at it wrong

Yeah def put your cooler fan above

[serene onyx]

The pins are gonna be on the bottom right of ur mobo

[frigid night]

Hold up for a second

@lone flame can you snap a good pic of your PC as it sits right now please?

[serene onyx]

For the hdd plug, place it under the 2 power ones, but make sure u put the negative side on the negative pin and the positive into the positive pin @lone flame

[empty pollen]

[frigid night]

I'm thinking that some cables are gonna need to be rerouted through the other channels. At least to make the build look clean.

[serene onyx]

He has the cable plugged into the top one now

Bro what case do u have

[frigid night]

That usb3 cable could go into the lower channel so less cable is showing. Will look cleaner. Save the top channel for your 24pin

[serene onyx]

DO WE HAVE THE SAME CASE TOO? ISTG

LMAO THIS IS FUNNY

[frigid night]

I'd take the fan out, unwind that cable, and rotate the fan so the cable coming out of it is towards the back of your case.

You can pull excess fan cable into the back of your PC through the top channel.

This will also look really clean

I'm only throwing this out there now before you start getting to far and it becomes a chore to tidy up.

[lone flame]

Idk if I’ll even get that far

[frigid night]

Why do you say that?

[lone flame]

Cause I’ve spent almost 90 minutes on cables and have plugged one thing in

[frigid night]

Hehe, it took me 6 hours to build my first PC.

[lone flame]

Also idk how to do that fan flip since it has these annoying pins on the radiator

[lone flame]

Yes this is hour 6 now

[frigid night]

It's ok. First builds take time. It's a learning process.

[frigid night]

Those metal clips. Just pull them up and away from the fins and it'll come out. You can then swap the clips around to different holes to orient the fan.

[frigid night]

I've built a lot of PCs and sometimes it still takes me a while.

[serene onyx]

I finished my first build yesterday, it took me 5 hours

[frigid night]

But it's fun. Once you get this together and realize how easy it actually is.. you'll want to build more 😉

[serene onyx]

I alr wanna build another one, even though I struggled for 5 hours yesterday

[frigid night]

You also have Zesty here who is doing a wonderful job helping you.

[serene onyx]

Real

[lone flame]

It is not this is awful

[serene onyx]

Bro, we are struggling with the same thing lmao

I fee u

[frigid night]

My first time was too.

Have you watched any PC building videos on YT?

[lone flame]

So you want this bad boy close to the motherboard

[lone flame]

For weeks, it’s the only reason I got the motherboard and stuff in

[frigid night]

Yes. I want the cable side closer to your fins and towards the back of the mobo.

[lone flame]

No clue how I’m gonna do cables but there

@frigid night

[frigid night]

Almost. Run them up the back side of the fan through the top hole of the case there. Then pull it all the way through and then you can either loop the connecter back through to plug in or loop it through the right side hole there where your USB3 cable is coming through.

I'd also route your USB3 cable through the other hole below the one it's currently in.

[serene onyx]

Oh wow

He's got some progress

Let's gooo

[lone flame]

Bro wdym through the back there’s no connectors back there and it’s not long enough to reach back around front

[serene onyx]

How many cords do u have plugged in now

I see progress

[frigid night]

There is plenty length on that. Just unwrap where you have it and push it through the hole with top red arrow. The blue line is behind that panel and the right red arrow is where you'd pull it back through

[serene onyx]

Thats exactly how I did Mines too LMAO

[lone flame]

OHHHH

[serene onyx]

YEAH

LMAO

[lone flame]

I don’t wanna talk abt what I was

Thinking

[frigid night]

It doesn't have to be exact to the blue line. The blue line is just denoting behind case.

[serene onyx]

😭😭

My cooler fan cable is setup the same way

[frigid night]

Personally, I'd pull it back through the top hole and plug back in that way

But I feel like that would be confusing to explain

[serene onyx]

I did my other cable that way, and half the cable is in-between the cooler fins and fan

So be careful

[frigid night]

Basically in and out of the same hole, just with all the slack behind the case

[serene onyx]

Real

[frigid night]

I'm at work ATM so I'm sorry for the delay in responses.

[lone flame]

I’ll pull it behind tighter once I am done with everything else

[lone flame]

Check DMs

[frigid night]

Woo. Looking clean. Now just unplug that usb3 cable and reroute it to the other hole below the one it's currently in and your set to continue building like a pro 😎

[lone flame]

Idk what you’re referring to

[frigid night]

That cable you have plugged in. The one with the blue connector.

The thicc one

[little osprey]

Since you're helping these guys

I have a question for you

[serene onyx]

Yes

[frigid night]

Sup

[little osprey]

Was my first time dealing with case fans, I got two more to do

Any ideas as to improve this?

I know once I get the PSU it’s gonna be a bit more chaotic

[serene onyx]

Gyat

[little osprey]

I tried to make it as simple as possible with the zip ties

I'm gonna see if I have any more laying around

[manic cloak]

atm

there's a guy selling a 850w thermaltake toughpower rgb for 50$ on fbm

he's missing the cables that aren't plugged in, should I buy?

[manic cloak]

bro thank god I got a lian li, they had it all nice and managed

[little osprey]

My only issue with Phanteks is the front audio header is a bit short and hard to manage

Everything else is fine

[manic cloak]

lemme see

[little osprey]

It's the one running behind where the motherboard would be sitting

Well, near the corner

[manic cloak]

ah

is it crossed between any other cables?

or perhaps is there another hole you could fit it in so it works out?

[frigid night]

Don't be afraid to fold them more on themselves. Don't crease them, but you can smash em down pretty good without ruining anything.

[leaden mauve]

whats the model of the psu

[manic cloak]

uuhhh there's only one ver of it?

[frigid night]

Farmodel

Ok then. Apparently that IS a word.

[leaden mauve]

oh wait i completely read over the model

oops lmao

[manic cloak]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQU6CWU?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[frigid night]

https://tenor.com/view/whip-whipping-conan-coco-conan-whip-gif-26365923

[manic cloak]

I think it's a B tiered PSU if i'm correct

my evga gt is aswell

but I could literally resell my EVGA psu (even though it's EVGA<333) and make money off of it.

basically what I got for my stuff https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cZj3Y9

[paper summit]

uhhh @cyan ravine Ur the laptop guy right

whats a good 900dollar one for gaming

[paper summit]

https://www.newegg.com/obsidian-black-acer-nitro-5-an515-46-r5xn-gaming/p/N82E16834360253?Description=laptop&cm_re=laptop-_-34-360-253-_-Product

nvm

[serene onyx]

@frigid night ayo

Remember the dude we where helping

His like fan rgb hub things connector is a 3 pin plug, where does he put it?

Cause the plugs are 4 pins and the cord is 3

[potent portal]

Is there no 3 pin header on the motherboard?

[serene onyx]

Let me check the manual

I think it does

[manic cloak]

@potent portal what's a fair price for a used 6800xt from amd

aka amd model

[serene onyx]

@potent portal there isn't one

[obsidian wigeon]

Uh

[lone flame]

No

[obsidian wigeon]

You probably have an rgb 12v hub

Not argb 5v 3pin

[lone flame]

The cable im holding is what Im unsure

About

[obsidian wigeon]

that doesn't look like rgb

wait does it come from reset sw?

if so you have to connect it to front panel header

[lone flame]

Idk what that is

[obsidian wigeon]

that one small cable from the hub

[serene onyx]

It's not

Wait

[obsidian wigeon]

hm, where did it come from then

[serene onyx]

Nvm

[obsidian wigeon]

Gotta identify where it comes from so we can figure out

[lone flame]

The one im@holding here?

[obsidian wigeon]

follow it and find where it was led from

[serene onyx]

Yes, is it the reset switch connected to the hub?

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[lone flame]

I’m pretty sure it’s from that hub on the back one sec

[serene onyx]

What's the other end of the wired labeled as

[lone flame]

Yes ir comes from that hub

[serene onyx]

So it's the one labeled as reset sw?

@obsidian wigeon I gotta go grill some burgers, please help him

[obsidian wigeon]

looks kinda like it is?

[lone flame]

It’s actually to the exhaust fan I think???

[obsidian wigeon]

weird tho, since this is 3 pins

ah exhaust fan

then connect it to one of the fan headers

[lone flame]

Is that bottom right of the board

[obsidian wigeon]

3 pin fans works with 4 pin pwm headers

read the manual and plug it into a fan header, ya

[lone flame]

I’m so slow I still don’t know where it goes

You said a fan header?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

anywhere on the board that takes a fan except cpu_fan

cpu_fan is for the cooler

[lone flame]

yeah the only thing the manual says about fans is the cpu fan

Unless it’s this 4 prong one

[obsidian wigeon]

yes 4 prong

[lone flame]

It says cha_fan3/wp next to it

[obsidian wigeon]

you can connect 3 pin fans to 4 pin

line the tabs

and clip it in

[lone flame]

Do all the headers on the bottom look correct

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

[lone flame]

Ok time for PSU stuff then

No clue how that’s gonna go

But I have white extensions that look nice

[serene onyx]

@lone flame trust, its easier

There all big cables

And the big cables have there own Lil plugs

[lone flame]

Nothing about this says easy

[serene onyx]

Big cables go into the matching big plug

What case u have

[lone flame]

Montech air100 or smth

Yeah air100 ARGB

In white

[obsidian wigeon]

match the plugs with cables you need to use

[frigid night]

It's a lot easier if you hook all cables up to Mobo first, then hook them up to psu

[obsidian wigeon]

pcie is for gpu

eps/cpu is for cpu

[lone flame]

I feel so bad that it’s taking like 4 of you to try and get me to build this

I’m sorry :/

[obsidian wigeon]

it's okay lol

[frigid night]

Don't feel bad

[obsidian wigeon]

the end will pay off

it's a learning process

[lone flame]

It was fine until cables lol

[frigid night]

We love to help. Not only are you learning, but we are as well. Helping you helps us get better.

[obsidian wigeon]

be sure to read manuals every time tho

then ask us if they still don't help

[serene onyx]

It's fine man, you should've seen me last night and afternoon

I was doing the same thing u where rn

[lone flame]

These r my labels

Shouldn’t there be a gpu one

[serene onyx]

That's the pcie

Pcie = gpu

[lone flame]

The two on the right are labeled the same

[serene onyx]

Yeah, they are both for cpu and gpu

[frigid night]

The PCIE/EPS (GPU/CPU) connectors are the same on the PSU side so they both go there. The difference is on the other end, where PCIE should only plug into GPU and EPS only into CPU.

[manic cloak]

anyone

[lone flame]

I got the motherboard hooked up

[lone flame]

Where is the cpu connector

Is it top left?

[frigid night]

Of the mobo yes

The clip will be facing upwards

[lone flame]

Ok I think I have motherboard, cpu, and the bottom thing hooked up to the psu

The sata stuff

[frigid night]

Bottom thing?

[lone flame]

I’m so done bro I can’t even get my psu to fit cause of cables

[lone flame]

Sata stuff

[frigid night]

Do you have anything that requires sata?

I think just your RGB hub so you only need 1 sata cable plugged into the PSU can leave the rest in the box.

[lone flame]

help

[frigid night]

To dark for me to make sense of what is what.

[lone flame]

I had my flash on what

One sec

[frigid night]

It's the white/black contrast that's throw my eyes off.

[frigid night]

Looks gravy. Go ahead and put the PSU into the case, tighten her down and then start shoving the cables into the shroud if you don't care about it looking nice (no one will see it anyways).

[lone flame]

I can’t get it in

The cable mess is that bad

Also I still need a gpu cable

[frigid night]

Anyways

[lone flame]

Let me check how many pins

My gpu has

[frigid night]

Pull out the hard drive bay in the bottom of the case shroud.

[lone flame]

Yeah I am trying that thumb screw is awful

I can’t get it

[frigid night]

Screwdriver?

[lone flame]

Can’t get one in there

I can try some plyers

[frigid night]

Those will work, but you can angle the driver in there. Doesn't have to be straight up and down.

Just get it straight as you can.

[frigid night]

@fossil cedar wouldn't know about this though.

[serene onyx]

@lone flame how's it going

[little osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Xdpmwh8S0&themeRefresh=1

[obsidian wigeon]

250 tho, cringe price

and do you really need it for war thunder

[little osprey]

Not really no, but I'm getting a Z790

Sounds stupid IK

Would my money be better spent on a 13600KF or something?

[lone flame]

I took out the hard drive storage for more room for my nightmare that is my cable management

I’m trying to figure out what cables go to my gpu

My gpu has two 8 pins

[serene onyx]

Easy

[lone flame]

Can I use two of these

[serene onyx]

The pcie cables

Hold on

Ima eat rq

[frigid night]

No. Those are EPS. They have a different pin layout. You want to look for the connectors that have 6+2. That means 6 pins on one connector and another connector right next to it with 2 pins.

They should say PCIE.

[frigid night]

I'm a little concerned though. Most PSUs come with only 2 EPS connectors. I'm hoping you didn't plug in a PCIE into the CPU header.

[frigid night]

There you go, but you want to use 2 separate cables. The one you have in your hand is called a daisy chain. You want to avoid that if possible. Find you another PCIE cable.

It's fine to use that one, but make sure only one connector on that whole cable is used.

[earnest olive]

depends on the card and psu tbh

[frigid night]

True, but I feel it's best to use separate if you have them

[earnest olive]

absolutely

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-anime-boy-depression-depressed-gif-17415928

idk anymore man

[earnest olive]

but for example corsair rates their pcie cables way over spec

and different cards have different power draw and transient spike behavior

[lone flame]

It’s been like 10 hours now and 4 of them have been spent on just cables

[earnest olive]

please tell me you've taken a break

[lone flame]

Like once

[earnest olive]

you were half done with the build when I went to bed

I wake up and you're still at it

[flint sapphire]

I just got back from sleep also

[frigid night]

He's almost done

[lone flame]

Yes it was noon when I started it is now 10:13 PM

[earnest olive]

I got a full luxurious 8 hours too

[frigid night]

He just needs the GPU cables and then attach PSU into case and shove cables and then turn on pc

[lone flame]

Still need to seat the gpu lol

[frigid night]

That takes like 30 seconds.

[earnest olive]

pro builder tip: cable management is optional and so are cases

[lone flame]

It’ll take me like 30 minutes dw

Ok so what in the world am I supposed to use for the gpu

[earnest olive]

what gpu do you have

[lone flame]

That’s what I used for the cpu btw

[lone flame]

6700 XT

[earnest olive]

what psu do you have

[lone flame]

Corsair RM750

[obsidian wigeon]

rm750e i think

[lone flame]

^

Forgot the e sorry

[obsidian wigeon]

it's ok

[earnest olive]

ok, you should have another pcie cable then

[obsidian wigeon]

they're still similar

[earnest olive]

but it's a 1x8 with no daisy chain

go look for it

[frigid night]

Fine your 2nd one of these

What mushy said

[lone flame]

There isn’t one

[earnest olive]

it's slightly different

but it'll say PCIe on it

[obsidian wigeon]

should say pcie or gpu

[frigid night]

Dude is almost done. I'm getting excited to see the finished product 😎

[lone flame]

This is every cable I have left

[frigid night]

It looks like you already have the single PCIE plugged into psu

[serene onyx]

Me too

[lone flame]

None of them say anything you guys are saying except for the daisy chain

[serene onyx]

Excited to see the build

[frigid night]

What is that one?

[lone flame]

It’s apart of the daisy chain

Why can’t I just plug the two 8pins on the daisy chain into the gpu

[frigid night]

It is?

[lone flame]

With one 8 pin into the psu

[obsidian wigeon]

it's fine lol

[frigid night]

Because it'll pull to much power through 1 cable

[serene onyx]

You can, but ^^

It's a Lil risky

[obsidian wigeon]

you can do it with just a daisy chain if the first chain is 8 pin

[lone flame]

I have 16 AWG cable extensions if that means anything by

[obsidian wigeon]

give us a pic of your psu

the connector side

[serene onyx]

Yes

[serene onyx]

Hey, fox did I show u my final build?

[obsidian wigeon]

uh not really

you didn't lel

[serene onyx]

I finished it yesterday

[obsidian wigeon]

hm ok

[serene onyx]

I forgot to show u

[obsidian wigeon]

so you only connected cable for cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

nice

[frigid night]

What is this one?

[obsidian wigeon]

looks like extra cpu cable

[lone flame]

Just an 8 pin, one side has a 6 and a 2

It has no label

[frigid night]

That's the one we need

[serene onyx]

Real

[frigid night]

That's your single PCIe cable

[obsidian wigeon]

does it say cpu?

[lone flame]

It says nothing besides some numbers

[obsidian wigeon]

okay

[serene onyx]

Both sides say nun?

[obsidian wigeon]

probably gpu then?

[serene onyx]

Pretty sure

[obsidian wigeon]

should be

[frigid night]

PSUs only come with 2 EPS yeah? He already has one plugged in and the other laying on the desk

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

[frigid night]

He can't find the other pcie so I believe that's it

[obsidian wigeon]

that's the pcie cable then

the middle one

[serene onyx]

It has to be

[lone flame]

This one is also an 8

[serene onyx]

Use that one

[lone flame]

And says cpu

[serene onyx]

Oh

[frigid night]

Don't worry about the CPU one. The one unlabeled is your PCIE

The one I circled in the 2nd pic

[obsidian wigeon]

get the unlabeled one

with a bunch of texts

[lone flame]

My cpu has two 8 pins though that’s only one

Gpu*

[frigid night]

The daisy chain PCIe is 6+2. Which equals 8

[obsidian wigeon]

you gotta uss the daisy chain one too then

[frigid night]

Yep.

[lone flame]

But there’s an extra 8 pin

[obsidian wigeon]

extra?

not cpu?

[lone flame]

On the daisy chain

[serene onyx]

I think he means attached to it

[frigid night]

Yes. There is because it's daisy chain

[lone flame]

There’s 3 total 8s

[obsidian wigeon]

don't use the other 8 on daisy chain

[serene onyx]

The extra just dangles

[lone flame]

One will just be hanging next to my gpu?

[serene onyx]

Doesn't it?

[obsidian wigeon]

use the main cable

[serene onyx]

Yeah

[frigid night]

There are uses for daisy chain but in this case we don't wanna do that.

[obsidian wigeon]

let the extra dangle

[serene onyx]

It just dangles

[lone flame]

That’ll look like crap but ok

[serene onyx]

Don't u have the extension

To make it look nice?

[obsidian wigeon]

you have extensions tho

[lone flame]

Oh

[obsidian wigeon]

you won't even see the cables

[serene onyx]

U plug the extension to the end

So it doesn't look ugly

[lone flame]

Ok give me like 2 monutes

mins

[obsidian wigeon]

plug pcie/gpu cables into extensions

[serene onyx]

Yeah, then plug the extension into the actual gpu

[lone flame]

Is a 6+2 supposed to clip together easily

Cause this isn’t

[mossy venture]

It doesnt really clip together, just into the slot

[serene onyx]

It's not supposed too

It's not gonna plug in easily

As long as it's fully in

Ur good

[mossy venture]

Put the 2 pin part in first and then get the rest in, or partially in and then other part in partially and push whole thing in together

[obsidian wigeon]

worry about the 6 pin first

nvm

[mossy venture]

Some gpus have it upside-down

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah do the 2 pin first

[serene onyx]

Just put the 2 pin first

[frigid night]

They "slot" together. Line them up like a puzzle piece then push them into the connector.

[serene onyx]

Then the bigger one

[obsidian wigeon]

but do mind where the clips goes

don't plug em in wrong

[serene onyx]

Yes, be careful tho, make sure ur putting them in right

2 pin should go into the left side

6 pin into the right

[mossy venture]

Not all the time