building-and-recc-chat

[earnest olive]

on my 3600X i saw 50C idles with a super overkill 360mm

but if you looked at core temps they were all like 24C

so some sensor other than cores was reporting 50C

[mossy venture]

I think my 3600 was around 45c idle but mid 30s on core

Under a 224xt

[earnest olive]

even on my 13700K, some sensor is currently way higher temp than my cores

dunno what it is

[mossy venture]

I've no clue what my 13600k idle is like I haven't checked

Not home atm

[meager ibex]

Okay.... so now I'm here.... what do I do now?

I reused my old hard drive and ssd... so Windows is already on it

Am I gonna have to install bios next?

[earnest olive]

1. you have your memory in the wrong slots
2. your old windows install will probably be bootable, but may have performance/stability issues, this is quite random and often depends on what previous hardware it was installed on
3. bios is already "installed", you don't really need to worry about this. just press f10 to exit bios and it should boot to windows.

move your memory module that is in the leftmost slot to the rightmost slot. you have them in slots A1 (leftmost) and A2, when they should be in A2 and B2 (rightmost) for proper dual channel operation

[meager ibex]

Oh my RAM?

[potent portal]

XMP can be enabled once you know if it's able to boot windows too

[meager ibex]

Kk

[meager ibex]

Alright I switched them now what?

[meager ibex]

Okay so… it’s not showing windows in the boot manager at all

It should be on there as it was on my previous pc and on the ssd

Nvm! I figured it out!!!

Thank you all... so so so much!!

[lyric thistle]

She-Ra

https://tenor.com/view/entrapta-shera-clap-clapping-happy-gif-20864509

[meager ibex]

Yeeee

[soft urchin]

Hey guys, I’m wondering on my computer, I recently installed a driver for my AMD radeon 5700 xt and all of a sudden my computer decided to freeze everytime I log into it. I end up wiping my computer to see if that works and it still freezes everytime I log in to my computer. I’m at a loss at the moment, but I’m wondering if reslotting my graphics card would work (my computer is able to boot in safe mode btw)

[potent portal]

?ddu

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[potent portal]

Run and install a known good driver version, sometimes hiccups happen

[soft urchin]

I end up doing a clean wipe of my computer, does that not get rid of the driver?

[potent portal]

Depends on how clean that wipe was

If you completely removed the partitions and recreated everything, that counts

If you installed over your install, that doesn't count

[soft urchin]

I basically reset it to back to “factory settings”

[potent portal]

A PC reset falls into the latter category, you still have old data that can interfere

[soft urchin]

Alright thank you. I’ll try to do that, but does safe mode with networking work with Wi-Fi. My router is far away from my computer

[potent portal]

Sometimes, but you can always download on your phone and copy from there

[soft urchin]

Thanks. I appreciate it

[upper ore]

Oh crap! So I ended up putting 2 different power supply power cords together. Ones for the old pc and one is for the new one. Is there a way to tell them apart? Lol 😅

[upper ore]

Corsair and Thermaltake

[potent portal]

Uh oh

Corsair cables are easy to tell at least, they usually have "type 4" or something printed on the side of the connector

[upper ore]

One looks visibly newer

[little osprey]

these are just the power supply cord, right?

(as in from psu to wall)

[upper ore]

Psu to wall

[potent portal]

Oh that kettle cord doesn't matter, it's universal

[upper ore]

The booth plug into the power supply.

[little osprey]

put the higher spec'ed power cord w/ the higher watt psu

(but, i bet they have the same specs)

[potent portal]

They're usually rated at 7A which will handle up to 1000W no issues

[little osprey]

i've got psu's that span 25 yrs...depends on how current (get it?) the psu model is

[potent portal]

Super old ones might be 5A you're right

[little osprey]

but, yeah, all of my newer ones have same specs

[potent portal]

10A each

[little osprey]

it's just a power cord; like @potent portal was saying - they're interchangeable...

[upper ore]

Does this help? The Thermaltake is a 850 and the corsair is a 750

[little osprey]

they're same specs...u good using either w/ either psu

[potent portal]

Those cords can handle 1300W each, doesn't matter which you use

[upper ore]

Aight thanks

[tawny violet]

Yo this is why I hate living here
Look at this

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rhNkxs

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ID-COOLING ZOOMFLOW 360 XT 68.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($307.88 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston Renegade Silver 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory ($139.56 @ Amazon)
Storage: ADATA Legend 710 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Storage: Silicon Power A55 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($36.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card ($229.16 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($103.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1306.57

Seems reasonable enough?

How about paying 1850 dollars for exactly this list?

Cuz that's what I'd have to spend to get the parts here in Hungary

Sure the cooler would cost like 80 bucks and the SSD roughly 25

[upper condor]

7700X and 6600?

[tawny violet]

but that's still 400 bucks less than what it'd be hereú

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

[tawny violet]

Would upgrade to 6900XT/4080 down the line

but I don't exactly have that kinda money rn

still, 400 dollars difference
That's ridiculous

[upper condor]

I mean for gaming the 7600X is almost the exact same

Also that mobo is SUPER overkill

[tawny violet]

honestly the parts themselves don't matter that much, it's more me being infuriated by the prices

[tawny violet]

idea was to get a good foundation now
Then slap a 7950X and a 4080/7900XT into it down the line

[upper condor]

Most B650 can support the 7950X

[upper condor]

Is there a pcpartpicker for Hungary? I can’t really seem to find one

[tawny violet]

fbihvbivdasísafdcífdsfaísihdsa

cough So

As I was trying to say

I can't order things from Germany since the warranty would be a nightmare

and customs loves to seize electronics packages

so I'm not willing to risk it

[lyric thistle]

Guess you'll have to travel to Germany

[potent portal]

Grab a passport and drive a few hours yeah

[tawny violet]

don't have a passport or a drivers license for that matter
Nor any knowledge of German

[lyric thistle]

Train?

[tawny violet]

Hold on lemme look up ticket prices

[lyric thistle]

I need to take the train to go be with my girlfriend 😭

[potent portal]

Yeah my "few hours" comment assumed they were in the city furthest away, worst case scenario

[potent portal]

If it makes you feel better I used to make a 5 hour drive every chance I got to be with my then gf, now wife.

[tawny violet]

Yes let me travel 11 hours by train to buy a PC

I can literally buy the 6600 from the to and from travel fare

[lyric thistle]

14 hour

[potent portal]

I'm just saying it's worth it for the right person

[lyric thistle]

Always

I'd walk the whole way if I could do that without dying

[potent portal]

Pull a Forrest Gump and go cross country a few times

[lyric thistle]

Is it really 11 hours into Germany from hungry?

[potent portal]

Maybe that's taking multiple stops into account

[potent portal]

Well yeah but you don't need to go all the way to Berlin

[tawny violet]

apparently direct train too

[lyric thistle]

Americans need to realize how big Europe is

[potent portal]

Sorry my sense of scale is off when I can drive for 16 hours straight and stay in one state

[tawny violet]

I can buy the GPU from the ticket price no cap

2×50k HUF

tbf that's to Berlin but still

[potent portal]

The passport will cost some too

[tawny violet]

and
it's literally 40 euro for a train ticket to Vienna

One way too

Lodging in Vienna because finding good prices would take time

[potent portal]

Not to mention not worrying about customs seizing your stuff like you said

[potent portal]

Get Amazon de to deliver to a locker or ups store in Vienna

It'll be there when you get there

[tawny violet]

renting an apartment for a night be like

And then the delivery driver shows up

Tho I don't think I can fit both the PC, monitor and GPU into a suitcase

[lyric thistle]

You need the whole setup to get the parts?

[tawny violet]

It'd be... interesting really

or I can just go AM4 and not have to pay an arm and a leg

😄

[upper condor]

Depends on use case actually lmao

Should've asked that

[tawny violet]

Well it'd be a primarily gaming rig
With a streaming side

[lyric thistle]

That's a pretty easy bar to meet I think

[tawny violet]

Well yeah

My idea would've been 1440p high refresh rate but for now I'd be satisfied with 1080p 60fps

Just to get started

[soft urchin]

@potent portal thank you so much, my computer is working now, but why did installing a driver for my gpu cause my computer to freeze in the first place

[potent portal]

Driver hangups, especially kernel drivers, can affect the entire system

And if that driver is hanging for the GPU then it stops trying to send frames and may appear stuck on the last one displayed

[soft urchin]

Thank you. I appreciate it. I just did a clean install and it’s working just fine now

[south cliff]

Got my rma back for my old ram

[dusty cedar]

how do i fix this

[dense brook]

Drunk Msi burner

[dusty cedar]

just dumb me. i had rivia and afterburner running.

well now that i got that sorted. how do i change the name of my framerate monitor? I changed it and applied it in settings but it still says d3d11

[lyric thistle]

Idk

The OSD always confused me

I think I figured out how once

With the help of someone on here probably

[dusty cedar]

got it. i was overriding the wrong thing. you have to override the group not graph.

in the settings you go to monitoring tab then go to whatever you want to add then select it then click show in OSD then if you want to change the name of it then also select override group name then type what you want then hit apply

[twilit grove]

if my motherboard was broken would it have to be stuck in bootloop or can it also just not give input at all

[obsidian wolf]

Do you guys where I could find

ddr2 Intel ram

2 sticks

[dusty cedar]

ebay?

[obsidian wolf]

no luck

[dusty cedar]

amazon?

[obsidian wolf]

no luck

[dusty cedar]

flea market?

[obsidian wolf]

haven't tried

[dusty cedar]

govdeals.com and look for bulk pc parts near you (if youre in the us)

schools and other goverment and federal companies always put stuff up there for auction

idk where you're going to find something that old anywhere else tbh

newegg has ddr2 on their website

like 20 bucks and under

[potent portal]

@frosty forge Nice build, looking great too. I'd get something to prop up that GPU though, you can already see the PCB flexing.

[vague oracle]

How is this ram? https://www.microcenter.com/product/653727/gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-(2-x-16gb)-ddr5-6000-pc5-48000-cl36-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-f5-6000j3636f16gx2-fx5-black

[paper summit]

So I have a lenovo ideapad 1 15iau7 with a 1235u that likes to kill windows everytime drivers are graphics drivers are installing

I have a reinstalled windows multiple times both 11 and 10

Yet everytime windows does its lil driver installation the screen goes gray and stays like that

I have been able to boot into safe mode a couple of times tho

Others it completely killed the os

This laptop was perfectly fine untill I decided to go and install win 10 on it which WORKED untill it didn't...

[cyan ravine]

oh what

I learn'ded a thing

[dusty cedar]

tastes like pennies and nickels. 0/10 would not eat

[cyan ravine]

looks like that cheap as chips samsung that MC bundles with Zen 4

it sucks

You can get top end 32GB DDR5 for as low as $82 these days

so if you're looking to buy it standalone I wouldn't

[dusty cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/what-wut-pepe-the-frog-shocked-surprised-gif-17558983

you're tryin to tell me i didn't have to spend 130 bucks?

[cyan ravine]

mhm

rn top shelf is $85

it's been as low as 82

[fossil cedar]

That's a lot for a shot of alcohol

[dusty cedar]

im happy with what i have. i got my stuff like 2 or 3 months ago now idr

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zQ4Ycf/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl32-memory-flrd532g5600hc32dc01

has either Hynix M or A which is good up to 10,500-11,000MHz

[dusty cedar]

everything has been goin down in price since then. even the 980 pros have been cut in half on price

ew but y is it in red

[cyan ravine]

Black is $5 more

lol

[frigid night]

you are saying I can oc that to 11,000mhz ambient?

[fossil cedar]

980 pros have almost always been terribly priced

[cyan ravine]

In 5 years? probably

rn no, LN2

ambient you could get an 8000 daily most likely tho

[fossil cedar]

Imcs/boards not good enough for hynix

[dusty cedar]

i picked up a 2nd 2tb 980 pro when they went on sale

[frigid night]

k, I've been waiting to buy it, but I'm about to press buy.

[cyan ravine]

ye you just need the proper board or IMC to achieve that

[frigid night]

well I'm waiting

[cyan ravine]

?

[frigid night]

what boards?

[cyan ravine]

oh

1dpc

[fossil cedar]

Itx boards/500$ boards

Basically

[frigid night]

wait

I'd need a itx/$500 board to daily at 8000?

[cyan ravine]

best chances are Z790 Apex, Z790 Kingpin, Z690 Kingpin (binned), Z790i edge, Z690i Unify, Z790 Tachyon (but also no not really)

mhm

[frigid night]

I see..

[cyan ravine]

decent 1dpc will do 7600+

[frigid night]

idk what 1dpc is

[cyan ravine]

decent z790 asus will also do 7600+

[cyan ravine]

1 stick per channel

2 slot

[fossil cedar]

On a reasonable priced board you'd be looking at 7400ish

[frigid night]

That's still good as heck though yeah?

[fossil cedar]

Or i guess 7600

[cyan ravine]

yeah if it's tuned well

[fossil cedar]

Indood, probably not a huge perf jump over something like 6400 tho

[cyan ravine]

timings gets most of it

[frigid night]

but for $90...

[fossil cedar]

Indeed 90$ is good

[frigid night]

I'm about to hit this buy button

so I'm really just making sure sure

[cyan ravine]

so that vulcan kit

your luck is M or A die

but both are guaranteed good

[frigid night]

A is best yeah

?

[cyan ravine]

ye

for intel def

[frigid night]

M is..?

[cyan ravine]

but M is still great

close 2nd

[frigid night]

k well I pressed buy

[cyan ravine]

so it's like, $85-$90 is a no brainer

[frigid night]

^

luckily I don't have anything to stick it in right now.. but before it goes up any more..

I.. that sounds bad..

[cyan ravine]

[frigid night]

RIP

literally xD

[cyan ravine]

yea hahahaha

[frigid night]

all I can say is.. UWU

[cyan ravine]

indeed

[frigid night]

I forgot she's not in this server LOL

[cyan ravine]

lolol

[dusty cedar]

is this a good score to have?

[frigid night]

https://tenor.com/view/tiny-text-cant-see-ken-jeong-gif-5957945

[cyan ravine]

barely under stock score which is expected

[fossil cedar]

On topic of this i started watching community it's hilarious

[cyan ravine]

oh yeah I've seen a lot of the series

https://tenor.com/view/i-knew-it-donald-glover-gif-5803634

[fossil cedar]

It's on netflix i started watching it because exam season so i obviously need something i can binge

[cyan ravine]

once you're past like

the first 6 eps of cringe

it gets really good

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/troy-abed-community-spanish-gif-21057452

https://tenor.com/view/community-chang-gif-26486487

Me when someone says eu list

(we love snr chang)

[runic spruce]

Anyone know if asus b660 boards bios are updated so they can run with 13th gen? Like this board

[obsidian wigeon]

none are updated

so make sure the board has flashback

[potent portal]

That one does not have flashback

[obsidian wigeon]

that board seems to be expensive

can get z690 pro rs frpm asrock

[potent portal]

You'd have to be pretty lucky for it to be 13th gen ready out of the box

[obsidian wigeon]

and you'll get flashback

$150-160 usually

plus the extra quality that comes with z690

[vague oracle]

Lol yeah they are, was looking at the bundles

[cyan ravine]

good in a bundle

[vague oracle]

Is it possible to swap parts out in MC bundles?

[cyan ravine]

yesn't

I don't think the ram can change but the mobo and cpus can

they still represent a good bundle if you're willing to drop the extra into one

[vague oracle]

Rn I’m debating between their 13900k and 7950x bundle

Both come out to roughly the same price of $800

Well $900 with a cooler

[cyan ravine]

for cad right

or is there something else

as well

(put gaming to one side for a moment)

[paper summit]

Geuss I'm out of luck

[cyan ravine]

you are luckn't

[vague oracle]

CAD mostly

I’m tempted to give up the idea of audio production and pursue that later on

It would drop my AVX-512 needs

[paper summit]

yea I cant get anything to work which is odd cause I got it to work once the first time I installed windows

[vague oracle]

Skill issue

[paper summit]

But then it broke when I restarted

I really dont feel like dealing with this

[cyan ravine]

AVX-512 in mind - 7950X
Otherwise the 13900K just decimates in CAD over AMD

[paper summit]

Might just send it back to amazon

[cyan ravine]

and better in games

[cyan ravine]

sounds pretty bad

[vague oracle]

Honestly just send it back

[paper summit]

Its so weird

I didnt even do anything to the mf

My mom didnt keep to box tho so rip

we'll see what amazon thinks of that

LOL

[vague oracle]

This is the 13900k bundle https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006265/intel-i9-13900k,-asus-tuf-z790-plus-wifi,-gskill-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-3-in-1-combo

Also if they let me swap out the ram, what should I get?

[cyan ravine]

ask them for cheaper ddr5 if they have it

hold on

lemme look

rule of thumb, anything under CL36, over 5600MHz

is guaranteed Hynix

almost certainly

@vague oracle

https://www.microcenter.com/product/650528/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-32gb-(2-x-16gb)-ddr5-5600-pc5-44800-cl32-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-flbd532g5600hc-black

if this is cheaper

wait do you want 32 or 64gb

64 would be better innit

[vague oracle]

64 would be good yeah

[stiff dome]

Yo I need some help

[mossy venture]

what with

[velvet hatch]

yo im helping a friend out with a pc build, hes looking for 1440p gaming pc mostly to play minecraft with shaders and stuff but just generally for gaming and this is what ive come to

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/F6XPRv

he hasnt really got a set budget but he just wants it as cheap as possible so ive tried to go for the most budget parts i can, just wanted to ask if theres any improvements i can make or if theres any parts ive cheaped out on too much that it might affect the stability/performance of the build

appreciate any help

[cyan ravine]

That list is, actually not too bad

Let's see if I can make it better

[cyan ravine]

I checked and it seems like the most decent 64gb kit is 280$ so pass

💀

@fossil cedar your country, Britain

Has more screwed up prices again

It's cheaper yet more resources to buy 4x8 SP ram

@velvet hatch my list is barely any different

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LMCbBj

Only real changes are 16gb more ram and a much better board with wifi

[velvet hatch]

appreciate it

[cyan ravine]

The stock cooler with the 5600 works quite well so you don't need a single tower

[velvet hatch]

is the extra 16 gigs worth it in terms of price to performance?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Absolutely

[velvet hatch]

oh neat

[cyan ravine]

But uh, I'm not 100% sure on one thing

Shaders+6650XT

I know MC can have a real nvidia bias to it, so it might be worth getting a used 3060 instead for 1080p

[velvet hatch]

yeah i debated doing that or going to a 6700xt

[cyan ravine]

Or maybe a 2080/super on the cheap for decent 1440p

Hard to say if we're really stringent

The builds we posted tho are 1080p builds

1440p would be pushing it a bit

[velvet hatch]

yeah i agree tbh

[cyan ravine]

For MC? No probs

But other games? Yeah uhh...💀

[velvet hatch]

if he wants to do 1440p, prob have to go to like a 3070 or 6700xt/6800 right?

[cyan ravine]

Yeah, I would consider 6700XT/6750XT

Or used 3070/3080 even

[velvet hatch]

or maybe even intel with like an A750?

[cyan ravine]

Nah, A750 is up to like, under 3060Ti level

It's good but a long way from recommending

[velvet hatch]

yeah he talked about finding cheap gpus in person at cex but idk how reliable it is lol

[velvet hatch]

ye alr

[cyan ravine]

If he can it would be dope. I don't have too good of a gauge on UK market so couldn't tell you how much a used nvidia card is worth

[velvet hatch]

it all depends on stock lol once found a used 3090 for like £500 at one but it looked a lil dodgy

[cyan ravine]

That build would scale well on 1440p tho, up to say, 3090-ish territory before it struggles

[velvet hatch]

i suppose he can always get like a 6700xt and then if he wants better he can just sell it and upgrade

[cyan ravine]

3090 for 500£ would fit right in here tbh

He could yeah

Just avoid the RT shaders

💀

[velvet hatch]

ye no it aint got a hope with ray tracing 🗿

he says hes gonna start buying parts in summer so i prob still have some tinkering to do anyway 😭

anyway lol appreciate the help ill relay it back to him and see what he wants

have a good one

[cyan ravine]

Np,

@velvet hatch oh one more thing

If you pick a b450 board, make sure it has a physical bios switch

Afaik if you want to save a buck the prime b450m-a ii has one

It's like 70-something pounds

5600 may not work if not

[velvet hatch]

ye dont like some sellers also just sell them with bios flashback for like an extra few quid

[cyan ravine]

Ikr

Alr no worries 👍

[velvet hatch]

prob will do lol

cheers

[dense brook]

Used 5700xt, is there a lower tdp cooler alternative with same performance at this price range?

[cyan ravine]

In US?

[dense brook]

I’m in sea. Has similar price to us i think

[cyan ravine]

Sea can be literally anything

Every country is different

[dense brook]

I see 6600, 2060, around the same price range

[cyan ravine]

I'd do 6600 if same price

2060 also not too bad but depends if you care about RT

[dense brook]

How about 6600xt vs 5700xt?

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-gif-25249881

[fossil cedar]

4 sticks??

[cyan ravine]

Ya cos it's cheaper than 2

And don't tell me to use that c*rsair

[vague oracle]

But that c*rsair ram tho?

[fossil cedar]

It's not

[dense brook]

6600 , I lose about 20fps on diablo4😭

[fossil cedar]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/yTmmP6/patriot-viper-elite-ii-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl20-memory-pve2432g360c0k

[cyan ravine]

What is this jedec

[fossil cedar]

Ew nvm noticed that was c20

[cyan ravine]

Bruv

[fossil cedar]

There is a kingston 3200 kit for same price tjo

[cyan ravine]

3200 what speed

[fossil cedar]

C16

[cyan ravine]

Ooo

I didn't see it

We'd save 1 pound

Achievement unlocked - savings

[cyan ravine]

6600 xt fr

[fossil cedar]

And ds3h ac is cheaper than the tuf smh flex

[cyan ravine]

Yes it is but a520m runs a 5950x

Not even joking

[fossil cedar]

But it's not gonna he running a 5950x

[cyan ravine]

WELL HE COULD

20 pounds to fit a 5950x later is pretty epic

Or 5800x3d

X2d

[fossil cedar]

Eh not worth it

[cyan ravine]

XD

Ur worth it

[dense brook]

Is that why they are worth 40usd over other boards. I saw the b450m prime n was wondering why it’s so expensive it’s like a b550m highend price

[cyan ravine]

The prime-A ii is super cheap with a bios switch, 80usd-ish

But yes a bios switch on a mobo is pretty valuable

Let's you roll forward the board to be compatible with newer gen without needing another cpu

[fossil cedar]

@velvet hatch
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y3mqTn

Id do that instead, save 15 quid

[cyan ravine]

Bruv you dropped 5 pounds off the mobo to make it never work with any upgrades

Smh I thought this was 20p

Kolink good?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah like 8£

[cyan ravine]

?

[velvet hatch]

is the b550 less upgradeable?

[fossil cedar]

B tier

[fossil cedar]

The board

[cyan ravine]

Ooo

[cyan ravine]

Vs the a520m? Absolutely. The tuf has reviews of it running a 3950x

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but nothing really worth upgrading to and 5000 series is the last one on am5

[dense brook]

Newbie question can roll back to previous bios to one that supports pcie4 for 3000s?

[cyan ravine]

Ds3h is entry tier

It depends on the board

If it's b450, b450 typically is gen 3

[dense brook]

Saw a video comparing b450 n b550 tuf with 5800x

[fossil cedar]

Only b550 and x570 have gen 4

And a520 i guess

[cyan ravine]

The tuf a520m is a520 on steroids

It's stupid good for no reason

[velvet hatch]

slightly cheaper ram tho, is there a difference with 4x8gb and 2x16gb really?

[cyan ravine]

Patos ram is better

[fossil cedar]

2x16gb is better

[cyan ravine]

No kit mixing for one

But also 2x16 runs easier

[fossil cedar]

And cheaper by like a pound

[cyan ravine]

Ya, a pound

[velvet hatch]

lol

[cyan ravine]

I got ratio'd

[fossil cedar]

Sorry lemme aricanify it for most people in the server 1lb

[cyan ravine]

Arican

You hit backspace not a letter

[fossil cedar]

Screw it

(they won't notice)

[dense brook]

B450 supported pcie4 for 3000 series briefly 🤣

[velvet hatch]

case like a 100 quid on amazon tho, anywhere you can buy cheaper?

[fossil cedar]

Nope

[dense brook]

Gonna look into a520m
Didn’t know before

[fossil cedar]

Oh i just used what Felix was, assumed you already bought the case 1 sec

[velvet hatch]

mb, i had it down as 49.94 with the original case cause thats the same as white version, just that black was out of stock

[cyan ravine]

I used the white case price

Ya

[velvet hatch]

oh right ye

[cyan ravine]

I saw what you did and did the same mb

[fossil cedar]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fTZR2m

[velvet hatch]

is that just a thing with supply or does black just cost more lol

[cyan ravine]

Could be stock

Could also be pcpp just being weird

[velvet hatch]

neat

[velvet hatch]

true lol

thats just reminded me actually he wanted it in white lol so thats better 💀

[cyan ravine]

💀

I would personally go with the a520 and pato's list

I think 10 pounds to make a 5800X3D fit is worth it

[velvet hatch]

ye and then like a decent refresh rate 1080p monitor

[velvet hatch]

ye

[cyan ravine]

Ye absolutely

Good 1080p like a g24f 2, g241

G242

Hold on lemme look rq

[velvet hatch]

his dad works in like architecture so hes just got a bunch of 144hz 4k monitors lying around 😭

lucky chap

[velvet hatch]

nah dw hes got monitors, he can just run one of his ones and then turn resolution down to 1080p

[fossil cedar]

Personally i just don't think it's worth upgrading from a 5600 on the same platform

🤷

[fossil cedar]

That's not gonna look very good btw

[velvet hatch]

ye im a lil concerned about that, aint like the ratio not 1:1 or smth

ill ask if he got a 1080p one lying around

[cyan ravine]

@velvet hatch HP X24ih

Or G24F 2

Between the 2, G24F 2 is worth the extra

But if he's tight then both are good

[velvet hatch]

neat

i think hes got some but i been looking for some monitors myself anyway so cheers lol

[cyan ravine]

[cyan ravine]

I'll upgrade u in a minute

No I won't

My vrm can't handle

• cri *

When's tuesday

[dense brook]

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ryzen-3000-asus-opens-up-pcie-4-support-for-selected-x470-and-b450-boards.html

[cyan ravine]

Yeah, select boards

[dense brook]

Tuf gaming was one of the boards they hv it till bios 1804

[cyan ravine]

They also took some boards away from gen 4 support

Going gen 4 isn't really worth it tho

There's no GPU that you can really run gen 4 with AM4 and make sense of it

And gen 3 nvmes are good for 98% of people

[dense brook]

So lastest bios better even if I have 3600?

[cyan ravine]

Well this is AM4

You go with the bios that works best

If you have no issues now, then updating might introduce issues due to other bugs

You would typically at least try to run latest to see how well it works tho

But for the layman it's better to be like, if it ain't broke, don't fix it

Cos you can introduce a lot of weirdness with agesa changes

I had one time I did a bios update and my windows was essentially permanently bricked @dense brook

5900X moment

I went through a number of issues on that particular board tho so your mileage will vary

[fossil cedar]

[fossil cedar]

Inb4 my sn550 almost ties with my p5 plus in the import category (rand)

[cyan ravine]

Congrats on ur one category

I will send u a sticker

Enjoy

[fossil cedar]

1/2 lol?

[dense brook]

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it, my family has been this for a long time. We got so many old things

[cyan ravine]

Ya me too

I am happy with something that still works perfectly fine in reality

[cyan ravine]

Ur ||my other half idk funny tuesday joke||

[dense brook]

May i dm u

[cyan ravine]

Just ask in here

[dense brook]

Idk which psu lol. So many noob questions

[cyan ravine]

It's a safe space as long as it's not a dox

What specs will this system be

[dense brook]

Ryzen 5 3600 -> (later 5600x)
Thermaltake Peerless Assasin
Asus Tuf B450M Gaming Pro S
Crucial Ballistix ddr4 3600 8G x2
Asus 2060 6g dual cool
CX550m
AP201 Case
Arctic p12 Fans x4

Asus tuf psu (tier b) 600(or 650 don’t remember ) is cheaper in my region but no modular

[cyan ravine]

Do you have the cx550m rn

[dense brook]

Nope

[cyan ravine]

Tuf 650 would be way better

The cables on that thing fold up terribly well anyway

Being non modular is hardly a crutch for it

[velvet hatch]

he said he willing to spend more for 1440p so i just stuck a 6800 in it lol
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xvvnY9

[dense brook]

It’s my 1st build 🙇🏻‍♂️

R there normal 2060 with 8gb vram?

[cyan ravine]

Still looks good

[cyan ravine]

You're fine man

[stoic island]

There's a 12gb 2060 but it's usually way overpriced

[cyan ravine]

If anything 5600 can be a little cheaper

Over 5600x

Can be but not always

[dense brook]

Without liquidcool, 5800x not doable rite? Well it will be for years later

[cyan ravine]

Peerless assassin 120?

No a 5800x will run on that

Just run hot

[dense brook]

6600xt better then 5700xt n cooler?

[cyan ravine]

About the same

Oh ig if you land the peerless assassin the 5700xt sounds like the better deal

[dense brook]

Tysm @cyan ravine saves me so much time

Peerless assassin on sale here

38usd white rgb version

[cyan ravine]

That's kinda nice

[dense brook]

It’s out of stock in NA?

[cyan ravine]

The white rgb one is

I think?

The regular one isn't

[fossil cedar]

[fossil cedar]

5700x is just cooler (usually cheaper 5800x )

[velvet hatch]

hes now instead telling me he just found a 165Hz 1080p monitor 🤦‍♂️

ima just go in the middle and do a 6700xt https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7WLJ6r

[fossil cedar]

I'd grab this one instead
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/RFGbt6/xfx-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-speedster-swft-309-video-card-rx-67xtyjfdv

Nicer and 6 quid cheaper

[velvet hatch]

oh ye true that ones way prettier lol

cheers

[fossil cedar]

Also better cooling iirc

Np

[velvet hatch]

also just remembered he got ethernet so should i just swap out the wifi mobo for the non wifi version? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/KpCFf7/asus-tuf-gaming-a520m-plus-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-a520m-plus

[cyan ravine]

Wifi for like 10 pounds?

[fossil cedar]

The wifi is worth 8 quid

[cyan ravine]

Ya

Absolutely agree

[fossil cedar]

He can still use ethernet with the wifi board

Also has Bluetooth which is nice

[velvet hatch]

oh ye true

ill just ask him lol

cheers

[velvet hatch]

is that a lot?

[cyan ravine]

Quite cheap

[velvet hatch]

rip left me on read ._.

[cyan ravine]

Cheap as chips

Good wifi here is like double that and sticks out

[velvet hatch]

oh lmao

[cyan ravine]

It's cleaner and cheaper when integrated

[velvet hatch]

ye true you dont need the little knobs sticking out

[fossil cedar]

Good wifi is usually like 25ish

[velvet hatch]

jesus

[fossil cedar]

And takes up a pcie slot

[velvet hatch]

he didnt reply so ill just keep the wifi lol

[fossil cedar]

I would

[velvet hatch]

appreciate the help my guy

[fossil cedar]

I don't use wifi on mine but the Bluetooth can be handy, and wifi can't hurt

No probs

[gentle pollen]

what would happen if I put a 5950x or 5900x on my B550M DS3H v1.4?

[earnest olive]

should work fine

[dense brook]

The more I learn the better hardware I want.
5800x3D + 3060 is so good

[potent portal]

That would be an excellent combo for 1080p

[fossil cedar]

Iirc you won't even see the benefits of x3d with a 3060 even at 1080p

https://youtu.be/2HqE03SpdOs?t=484

An average of an extra 10fps over a 5600

6600xt is a lil bit better than the 3060 for refrence

[hazy surge]

Hello, I’m completely new to the gaming pc scene and I have absolutely no idea or clue what to purchase and how to assemble parts to build a pc. Can someone guide me?

[frigid night]

For sure. What is your overall budget? Any wiggle room if any on that budget? What types of games will you be looking to play? Do you care about high fps or max settings?

[potent portal]

• what country?

[hazy surge]

Rlly don’t want to go over 3k max preferably 2.5k main games are valorant apex and forza horizon maybe a bit of mc and I’m not HUGE on flashy graphics but I would absolutely love to get the smoothest and most fps possible on those big games

But I feeel like that’s gonna hurt my wallet heavily

[hazy surge]

Usa

East coast

If that matters

[potent portal]

Are you near a microcenter?

[hazy surge]

I don’t think I am

[potent portal]

They have awesome bundle deals

[hazy surge]

I searched earlier and didn’t find one

Wish there were some around my area

[frigid night]

At 2.5k.. you'll def get a PC more than capable of running those games at max settings high fps.

[hazy surge]

OMG are u dead serious?

[potent portal]

Top tier easy at 2.5k

[hazy surge]

Is it possible for you to assist and help me so I don’t stupidly buy something I shouldn’t

Holy I’m lucky

[frigid night]

I have 1 more question..

If you don't need super duper awesome graphics.. you could lower your budget to 1500 and still get a machine capable of playing those game phenomenaly

Maybe not a question xD

[hazy surge]

Ahhh

Well thing is

I obviously don’t want to play a game that’s uninteresting to look at

But idc for the best ever graphics

I always prefer performance over looks just a bit fancy is fine

[frigid night]

Yeah 1500 is def still in that range of pretty graphics and good performance.

[hazy surge]

And Dw abt the budget I’m willing to go a bit over 2k

I see

[frigid night]

2.5k is getting up there with over the top stuff that you may not need.

[hazy surge]

Ohh

I’m stupidly new to all of this and always thought that the pros and streamers spent 4-5k for pcs in order to run games on high graphics with lots of fps

[frigid night]

So, most pros in fps style games actually run their graphics at low so they can squeeze out more fps.

[hazy surge]

I see

[potent portal]

They spend that much to make it flashy with lots of lights and shinies

[hazy surge]

Ig it’s more usually the content creators

Makes sense

Anyways it’s typically ppl with money lmao

I don’t need all of that tbh just decent stuff

[frigid night]

I'm currently at work and about to "finish" my "sit down" break, so I won't be able to make a list for you, but I figured I'd ask all the questions that would have been asked anyways.. I'm sure someone will come a long and put one together for you. I can try in between customers, but it's a bit difficult.

[hazy surge]

Oh it’s perfectly fine! I’m just oblivious to everything so I’m finding any help I can get I’ll get someone eventually

Thanks tho

[mossy venture]

Hey, id be willing to help

Just to make sure I got everything, how much would you like to spend? And you're in the us and dont care about looks much?

This is an option, if you wanna spend more a better cpu would definitely be useful https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zrCLzf

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CN7T6r

That's spending more, more of a middle ground. Could also go down to 13400f with a 214xt

[potent portal]

They said $1500-2000 preferred

[frigid night]

I'd almost say going DDR5 would be good especially since that hynix is so cheap right now

[potent portal]

So that second list falls right in there

[mossy venture]

Ima do one more for 13600k d5 7900xtx, and one d4

[potent portal]

Yeah I'd do DDR5 too, 13th gen really likes it

[mossy venture]

D4 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r6gJ6r

D5 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wKQqTn

Also for monitors, I'd suggest m32u for 4k, and g27q for 1440p (m27q-p, m27q, x27q and m32 are also great, just not great priced right now)

[frigid night]

In regards to the x27q that I've had for a little less than a year.. I'm starting to have weird issues with the whole right side of my panel. A lot of flickering/weird image burn in.. it goes away if I turn monitor off and back on, but in the last 2 weeks, it's happened 3 times.

[hazy surge]

Oh thanks would love the help! Yes southeast us 1.5-2.5K maybeee to 3k preferably not. Val apex and forza. Don’t need stupid high graphics just good graphics but smooth fps all that matters for me

If u can help me achieve all those in my budget I’ll be the most thankful

And I rlly want to make purchases by tonight

[frigid night]

You'r posted 4 different builds. With your budget. I'd recommend the last list he posted. I believe you won't regret it. It'll last you a good many years of gaming.

And it's still under $2k.

[hazy surge]

Will def check it out

Wow! That’s insane

[mossy venture]

I haven't had any issues on mine which I've had around 7 months I think

[frigid night]

Use the rest of your budget to go towards the monitors and keyboard/mouse

[hazy surge]

I heard a lot of ppl use 3090s card is that good?

[hazy surge]

Ah I see

[frigid night]

Yeah we got it same time, but idk.. mine just randomly started acting up these last 2 weeks.

[vague oracle]

7900xtx kicks a 3090’s ass

[mossy venture]

The 4070 ti matches it for much cheaper

[hazy surge]

Ahhh

Anything u guys believe is better for the value I’ll go for

[mossy venture]

The 7900xtx matches the 4080, if not beats it I believe

[hazy surge]

Ahh

Mk

[frigid night]

This server strives on getting people the best bang for their buck. 😁

[mossy venture]

Imo, if you're just gaming, I'd go for the 4070 ti 13600k build with a 1440p monitor

Though I would switch it to ddr5

Since it's like $35 more for a good upgrade

[frigid night]

But 4k gaming is so noice

[mossy venture]

For someone's first pc who doesn't overly care about graphics it's not necessary at all

[hazy surge]

Just exactly what I’ve been looking for omg I’m new to this and I have no dang clue what anything stands for or what it means

[potent portal]

Depends on the resolution, the 4080 wins at 4k and it's a tie at 1440p. 4080 has a couple more features though.

[hazy surge]

Well I mean for valorant I’ll be runnning low graphics prob they still look good, it’s mainly apex and forza graphics that are very realistic

[frigid night]

No problem at all. Just because.. you do know you'll be putting this PC together yourself right? At least physically. We can help you from here.

[hazy surge]

oh yes

[frigid night]

Alright cool

[hazy surge]

I just need ppl to guide me that’s all

[mossy venture]

I'd do this with g27q https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B7b86r

[hazy surge]

Like where to put where cause I have no idea lol

[mossy venture]

Could go for 7900xt as well, dealers choice

Valorant I can run at 240 fps with a 13600k and 3060 ti

[hazy surge]

Wow these are unbelievably cheaper than I was expecting

[mossy venture]

This is with a frame limit too

[frigid night]

Building your own PC is 99% going to be cheaper and better.

[hazy surge]

I was expecting myself to be spending over 2.5 to 3 thousand for a DECENT pc running decent fps

[hazy surge]

Mk noted

[mossy venture]

You could do a 2.8k or so 4090 build if you really wanted to, but absolutely pointless for what you're doing

[frigid night]

Nah you can build a sub 1k PC that'll give decent perf

[mossy venture]

Imo around 1600 is the best price/perf for pc budgets atm

[hazy surge]

Well.

I do want to save as much as I can but also get the BEST at what I have yk?

So I don’t wanna underspend either

If that makes sense

[mossy venture]

I mean, if you're fine with a used gpu

Oh wait

I forgot the 6950xt exists

$600 4070 ti performance

[frigid night]

Ew

[mossy venture]

One sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MGFGrD

Could go 13400f as well to save $115 and have a very similar gaming experience

To absolutely min max it, 5600 would do the job, but imo the 13400f with pretty decent d5 that should oc very well is worth it

To save more, could go for a used 3080/6900xt/6950xt/6800xt

[hazy surge]

Bro…

There’s no absolute way

I checked pc builds and there are soooo many builds under 1k that looks dope as hell

Like they look more expensive than they are

[mossy venture]

For under 1k, one sec lemme make you a list

[hazy surge]

How…

Oh no pls don’t I want to utilize my money lmao

I’m willing to spend just not “overspend”

I’ll go over 1k and even 2k if I need

I don’t mind

just not over my max budget which is capped at 2.5-2.7k

near 3k basically

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dB3tPX

[potent portal]

SA is locked on 13400 tho 💀

[mossy venture]

Imo, this and the 4070 ti one are the best options for you

If you really want to spend more, 7900xtx and 13600k ddr5 build

[mossy venture]

Person doesn't really know much about pcs so I doubt they'll be overclocking anytime soon

[potent portal]

So why mention the oc at all

[mossy venture]

12600k not really worth $20 more

[mossy venture]

Ram can carry over and oc it in the future, but I doubt they'll be overclocking soon

[potent portal]

Hmm fair enough

[mossy venture]

Also ram oc tends to give more frame games than cpu oc when gpu will likely be limit factor with 4070 ti or 6950xt at 1440p

[hazy surge]

Will any of u guys be available later tonight?

[mossy venture]

I probably won't be, I might fall asleep soon

[hazy surge]

Oh

[frigid night]

I will be in about 5 hours.

[hazy surge]

Oh dang…

Time zone diff I forgot

Well damn

that sucks

[mossy venture]

I'm east coast too, I just have to be up at 6 am

[hazy surge]

I understand

And so do I

[frigid night]

I'm 3 hours behind you.

[hazy surge]

That’s why I wanna purchase stuff soon

[mossy venture]

I might be up tho, and there's other people here who can help just as well as us too

[hazy surge]

West coast I see

[frigid night]

The only coast. 😉

[hazy surge]

Yeah I understand it’s totally fine

[hazy surge]

Lmao

[mossy venture]

Anyways, if you need further help can just ask here and someone will respond eventually

[potent portal]

They call it the golden coast for a reason

[hazy surge]

I just rlly need somebody to guide me on buying the right stuff so I don’t end up wasting money and parts that won’t do me any good

Then goes 1-2k down the drain

yk

and I have no knowledge whatsoever so that’s even worse

[hazy surge]

Gotcha will do

[potent portal]

Yeah we get it. The past few years were awful for PC building so you really did need 3-4k to build a decent one, and prebuilt computers have huge markups that put them at the same specs for 25% more money.

[hazy surge]

Yeah exactly

I always have the thought that u need to spend more to have more

When gaming

U get what u pay for theory

But then I get scared that illl be forced to overspend money I don’t have or not tryna spend

Just to play a game I want to play

[north echo]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RPq3hk

[potent portal]

Sadly they count on people going by that mantra so they'll jack up the price of mediocre parts cough cough samsung 980 cough

[north echo]

what do you think for a home office build for like LONG term?

[hazy surge]

Lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

don't buy 980 pls

also home office doesn't need 12600k

psu is in d tier i believe

[potent portal]

Even worse, E tier

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

absolutely no protection

[potent portal]

No OCP whatsoever

Oof

[obsidian wigeon]

it will go pop when it wants to

[potent portal]

E is for explosive

[obsidian wigeon]

s12iii has been planted

[potent portal]

You can save a lot of money on a home office PC and just go for a 12100 and use the stock cooler

The 12100 was keeping up with high end CPUs and GPUs for a long time

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[frigid night]

Laughs in e tier PSU that was in my girls build.....

[lyric thistle]

[frigid night]

I've since replaced it, but I had no idea it was e tier.. it wasn't until it started making super funny noises that I decided I was gonna get a new one lol

[obsidian wigeon]

it almost exploded

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ys27mr

[mossy venture]

13100 is cheaper rn I think

[potent portal]

Yeah but you'd need to update bios

[mossy venture]

Ah ok

[potent portal]

So you could spend the extra $15 on a mobo with flashback (or a newer model) and save $15 on the cpu

Just a tradeoff

[mossy venture]

Does b660 ds3h have bios flash?

[obsidian wigeon]

no

[mossy venture]

Ah that sucks

[obsidian wigeon]

almost all b660 lacks flashback

it's not am5 where even $100 a520 has flashback, sadly

[mossy venture]

Only two I know have it are tomahawk and aorus ax

[obsidian wigeon]

even asus proart b660 has no flashback

[potent portal]

Yeah so the option would be https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FVqPxr/asrock-b760m-hdvm2-d4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-hdvm2-d4
Since it supports 13100 out of the box, but is also $25 more

[obsidian wigeon]

yes, a supposed pro board

[potent portal]

There's no cheaper board with flashback

[mossy venture]

Ah, so yeah $10 for like a 2% difference in perf

Meh

[north echo]

dang

[potent portal]

Totally not worth in an office pc

[mossy venture]

Yeah seconded

[north echo]

yeah, and even then, the most id ever install is a low-mid range gpu if she wanted to play the sims. Thats about it lol

[obsidian wigeon]

grab b660 and 12100

should be happy for a while

[north echo]

appreciate it!

[obsidian wigeon]

ssd could certainly be cheaper though

[mossy venture]

Decent b660 and 12100 could go to 13600kf later on if wanted

[obsidian wigeon]

check mp44, p41 plus and a60

[mossy venture]

Mp33 is $40

[obsidian wigeon]

sorry, mp33

ye mp33 is straight up cheapest ssd that's not trash rn

below 100 for 2tb iirc

[potent portal]

$70 2TB

[obsidian wigeon]

cheap af ssd

[hazy surge]

Alr

[obsidian wigeon]

i can easily resell it and make bank

[hazy surge]

Spending time..

Wish me luck

[obsidian wigeon]

if only dad would let me

there's no ssds in thailand that's this cheap

[vague oracle]

How big is the performance difference between the 7950x3d and 7950x?

[dense brook]

X3d are amazing in games

[obsidian wigeon]

doesn't matter in anything outside of gaming

[vague oracle]

Okay 7950x it is these

[potent portal]

If you're gaming 7800X3D beats all of those

I know it sounds weird but trust me bro

(It's because there's no extra latency going cross-CCD on the infinity fabric since there's only 1 CCD)

[lyric thistle]

None of these words are in the dictionary

[potent portal]

Hence

The only time to get a 7950X is if you're doing an all core workload, and a 7950X3D is for people that spend a lot of time playing CS:GO, and other games sometimes.

[hazy surge]

I MIGHT just go with a prebuilt pc here as my first pc!

Might just be the best current choice for me since I don’t know much

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/3xqqqs/magnificent-amd-gamingstreaming-build

Is this a good setup to run 3 games?

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/9M7Ycf/glorious-amd-gamingstreaming-build

Or is this one better

A bit pricy

Also heard some prebuilts allow u to change the parts to ur liking

[potent portal]

Which games and what resolution/refresh rate?

[hazy surge]

Val forza and apex

Not sure on refresh rate

How do ik?

Or how can I tell

[potent portal]

Do you have a monitor you plan to use already, or are you buying a new one?

[hazy surge]

Uh

Well

These two streamers use the exact monitor

The zowie benq

2546

Xl

I think it has 200 something hz

Do I need a higher hz monitor to keep up?

Not sure if that’s too low or not

[potent portal]

That's a monitor specifically for esports games

[hazy surge]

Ahh

Wait

So avg gamers like me shouldn’t use it?

[potent portal]

1080p 240Hz, TN panel

[hazy surge]

Ah

I plan on using 1080

I see lots of ppl use that

[potent portal]

99.9% of people can't tell the difference between 165Hz and 240Hz

[hazy surge]

19 something x 1080

[potent portal]

Ok if you're going 1080p you can get a MUCH cheaper PC

[hazy surge]

Higher hz the better correct?

oh

[potent portal]

Not always, in fact it's often the opposite

[hazy surge]

I just don’t know the difference it makes in gaming performance

[hazy surge]

Oh

Ok I’m confused now lololol

Sorry

[potent portal]

Higher refresh panels tend to have worse ghosting and overshoot

[hazy surge]

Ahh

So lower hz the move then

240 a good spot or lower?

[potent portal]

Around 165/170Hz is a sweet spot

[hazy surge]

Ah ok

Wait so do pros tend to go for higher or low hz?

[potent portal]

Pros are the ones going for every millisecond they can save, image quality be damned

[hazy surge]

Wait

So that means

Best performance ever

But worse quality

Basically?

[potent portal]

Yes

[hazy surge]

Ohh

I mean

can it be that bad???? Lolol

[potent portal]

The monitors that can do both cost a LOT of money

[hazy surge]

I’ve watched their streams it looks pretty good

Or maybe they are just good

LOL

ahhh

I see

[potent portal]

On a stream it's not capturing the image from the monitor, it's capturing from an external source

[hazy surge]

Assuming closer to a thousand if not over huh?

[hazy surge]

Ahhh

Damn

So much that goes into this lol

I rlly need to pick wisely

[potent portal]

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-500hz-gaming-monitor-aw2524h/apd/210-bglm/monitors-monitor-accessories

[hazy surge]

I just wanna game decent graphics but good fps that’s all

And maybe record clips to post here and there

Nothing more than that

[hazy surge]

Oh ok

Haven’t seen Alienware in a while

[potent portal]

$750 for a 1080p monitor is just disgusting, but that's honestly one of the few good ones that are that fast

[hazy surge]

Goodness gracious

Wowzers

[potent portal]

You can get a good 4k 120Hz monitor for that price

Most people that have that monitor didn't pay for it. They get it for free from their team or a sponsorship.

[hazy surge]

Oh wow

Lmao

Makes sense

Well again

Don’t need a super duper flashy highly detailed graphic monitor

Just don’t want terrible blurry pixels

So basically in the middle

Decent to good will be fine

On Val I run low graphics anyways

[potent portal]

If you're playing forza you'll want a good IPS because that game has a lot of motion and very high detail graphics

[hazy surge]

Yeah

For forza it’s diff tho LOL

That game is all abt graphics

This is tough

[shell solstice]

any good motherboard suggestions?

[potent portal]

For what CPU?

[shell solstice]

7950x3d

[mossy venture]

These don't come already built

[potent portal]

Any special features you need, like USB C on the front panel or wifi?

[hazy surge]

Oh they don’t?

[shell solstice]

decent audio and at least 3 m.2 slots is preferred

also bios flashback

[hazy surge]

I thought they were for a moment lol

[mossy venture]

No, they're just pre made lists

[hazy surge]

Ohh

So like they ship the parts only and u assemble them?

[mossy venture]

Nah, if you want a pre built I could find one, but it'll be a good bit worse price/perf than building

[mossy venture]

Yeah, just mostly worse value than the builds I sent earlier

[hazy surge]

Oh ok

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YZgFf7/gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-x-ax
Make sure to update bios ASAP so it doesn't explode

[hazy surge]

I rlly rlly don’t wanna go over 2.5 cause I wanna spend the rest on keyboards mouses etc

[shell solstice]

lol

thanks

[obsidian wigeon]

and make sure vsoc voltage doesn't go over 1.3v

[mossy venture]

I'll look for a pre built for you, give me a bit

[hazy surge]

Mk thanks, prebuilt might just be the best choice for me starting off and when I know more about pcs I’ll build one in the future

Pretty sure prebuilts are still rlly good and fast

Hopefully I can run all my games

[potent portal]

Keep in mind it's targeting high refresh 1080p and I'll pick out a good monitor

[hazy surge]

And record

I’m so excited

Guess I’ll be purchasing tmrw instead of today

I just rllly rushed myself idk why

I needa buy a big desk as well

My mousepad is coming in tmrw

[potent portal]

@hazy surge https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B097S9SYM5
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/viewsonic/xg2431

[hazy surge]

Ty

Oh wow

[potent portal]

That monitor should look good no matter what you're playing

[hazy surge]

Damn even forza?

Crazy

[potent portal]

Yeah a decent IPS panel will do that. TN is for the frame chasers, IPS is for those that want it to look halfway decent.

[mossy venture]

https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gaming-PC-Infinity-8800-Pro-SE I'd do this build with these changes for a pre built

[hazy surge]

Ah

[mossy venture]

I'm unsure on what that psu is though

I'd assume a leadex OEM but I'm not sure

[hazy surge]

I heard the psu is one of the most important and significant components in a pc

if not the most

Like the cpu