#building-and-recc-chat

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dark island
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And like the i5 13600k is over 400 dollars

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And that’s pretty expensive

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And don’t lemme get started on the z790 prices 😅

upper condor
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12600KF is only a little bit extra AFAIK, mainly comes down to the case and cooling

dark island
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Also the z590 montherboard had an insane deal I got it for 130 dollars

upper condor
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But if it's what you'd like then that's fine ofc

dark island
upper condor
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If you got a different cooler/case you could probably fit it in but it's all up to you

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Again I don't wanna like say anything since I'm not super knowledgable besides high end parts that I've used personally

dark island
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Ok

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Thx for ur time man I appreciate it

upper condor
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If you wait a bit in here someone more knowledgeable will probably come in and help

dark island
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Who

upper condor
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I know theres people who can make some insanely good builds for budgets

upper condor
dark island
dark island
upper condor
dark island
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Arrived

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It’s js the cpu on the way

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I got it for 215 dollard

leaden raft
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bruh

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when i was picking my psu people thought i was fine but now some ppl are thinking im getting power throttled

cyan ravine
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That's...not a thing

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Send cpu gpu and psu

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Specs

leaden raft
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ryzen 9 5950x gpu 3070ti 750w lianli

cyan ravine
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Lian li sp750?

south cliff
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750 should be fine

leaden raft
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ye

cyan ravine
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No way would you be using too much

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Not even close

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What's throttling?

south cliff
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It might get 500 watts

leaden raft
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idk, my frames have been really awful ever since i switched psu and ive tried so much and my latest thing i went in a discord and the guy thought 750 was not enough for that build

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he was saying theres draw for the monitors and a 5950 and 3070ti are drawin -455w on their own

cyan ravine
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Monitors have nothing to do with the psu

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Monitors have their own psu and plug

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It's totally fine power wise

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So frames have been awful, hm, was there anything else you did when you switched psu?

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You made sure the cables were the right way around and correct?

leaden raft
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455 w = 290 w gpu + 65 w for hdmi,hdmi and dp connectors and 105 w for the cpu - oh sry forgot 5w then even ~460 ^^

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this was his math

leaden raft
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and ive been monitoring temps and what not too

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MAYBE it could be an adapter for the hdmi or something but i tried to confirm they were rated for that stuff

cyan ravine
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No such thing as power over hdmi

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Not like this

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It's more like

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290W GPU + transients of gpu (290x0.6)+ 105W+130W PBO

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Transients get ignored 99% of the time so it's really just, 290+235+maybe hard drive, ssd and lights on 3.3/5v rails

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So 525W + maybe 60W system power

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Still wayyyy under 750W

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And those are just ballpark numbers

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Real numbers will be lower

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Unless you slam the whole system regularly with stress-test like scenarios (you won't)

leaden raft
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i dont even overclock

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i dont have any harddrives

cyan ravine
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Didn't factor any overclocking in

leaden raft
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i have two nvme

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i have an aio which has 3 fans

cyan ravine
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PSU's don't throttle they keep drawing until they hard switch off

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You'll turn off if you're drawing too much power

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No

leaden raft
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darn so then its not my psu

cyan ravine
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Yes

leaden raft
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weird

cyan ravine
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It's not

leaden raft
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idk what could be causing frame issues like this

cyan ravine
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However

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however

leaden raft
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i like to think im not inept but

cyan ravine
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Bare with me a sec

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A faulty psu could potentially cause issues like this

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Have you tried switching back the psu's

leaden raft
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i have some serious coil whien

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whine*

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but i heard that was standard of sfx 750 lianli

cyan ravine
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You didn't reuse the old psu cables yeah?

leaden raft
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dont think so

cyan ravine
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Try swapping the psus back using the cables they came with

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And see if it goes away

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If it doesn't it's not the psu

leaden raft
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darn thats a lot of work

cyan ravine
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Yeah man, if you're suspicious it's the psu tho that's what it entails

leaden raft
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i have to take apart my whole build to get to anything, just frustrating

cyan ravine
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I can't exactly rule it out either tho cos I had a faulty psu once that behaved like this

leaden raft
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i gotcha

cyan ravine
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Very hitchy, terrible performance, it also took out hardware with it

leaden raft
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i try to watch things and the only thing i can see when stuff goes bad is a spike in ram but it only hits like 40% which i dont think is insane for all i have going on

cyan ravine
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Other things it could be are windows updates or new vga drivers

leaden raft
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my storage is kinda funky rn too

cyan ravine
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Nvidia drivers I regularly clean out with DDU as they cause more inevitable problems than they fix on any of my systems

leaden raft
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i should probably just clean resest everything before taking apart my pc and putting it back together

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whats DDU?

jolly riverBOT
cyan ravine
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This^

leaden raft
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ty

cyan ravine
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You could also try a separate windows install as well (don't delete the old one) to see if it runs better stock

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
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Cos then you can tally it up to drivers

cyan ravine
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I'll line u in a minute

fossil cedar
leaden raft
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im just thinking cuz i think i have some stuff downloaded twice

leaden raft
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idk if that would cause my issues but

cyan ravine
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What changed around then/changed since?

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That might lead you to the answer

leaden raft
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i put my pc into a new case-->new motherboard

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no issues

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i changed the psu and added a storage-->didnt seem like there were issues

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havent changed anything in over a month-->issues

cyan ravine
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You did all that same time?

leaden raft
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no

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new case and motherboard was like new years

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and then psu and storage was a month and a half later

cyan ravine
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Did you carry over the same install

leaden raft
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and then the problems started like 2 weeks ago

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yes

cyan ravine
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Ah

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From what system

leaden raft
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i honestly might have 2 installs on the two drives

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im not exactly sure

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cuz i had 2 pcs

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and one nvme was in each

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and i put them both in this pc

cyan ravine
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Lol

leaden raft
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but i thought i had windows for one of them on an ssd not the nvme

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im 99% sure

cyan ravine
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What were both systems running

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Cpu

leaden raft
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5950x

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for both

cyan ravine
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Did those carry over old installs or nah

leaden raft
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what?

cyan ravine
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I'm tryna know if you used either of these windows on like, older intel or maybe really old amd systems

leaden raft
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should i fresh install windows since new motherboard?

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oh nah

cyan ravine
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Then you're likely fine windows wise tbh unless you didn't do chipset drivers

leaden raft
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the 5950x that im using rn with my current motherboard I installed windows on another amd board from the same generation just a 550f instaead of 570i

cyan ravine
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Likely perfectly fine windows wise unless something else is in play

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Try ddu

distant musk
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Anything I should change? (Power supply is a Enermax 750w)

coarse grail
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So I’m looking at 13th gen motherboards should most have an updated bios

earnest olive
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if it's 700 series, it will work with 13th gen out of the box guaranteed

earnest olive
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you have an 8gb rx 570?

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absolutely not

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don't do that

mossy venture
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^

earnest olive
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a significant amount of performance

surreal basalt
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You can undervolt ur current gpu

earnest olive
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absolutely zero video encoding

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and if you have a pcie 3.0 system

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a LOT more performance

surreal basalt
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Buying a new gpu will defeat the whole purpose of saving money on the powerbill

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Probably idk

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But its something

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How tf is it that expensive

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Running a pc with a 570

potent portal
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That's not even close to how much you'd be saving

surreal basalt
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^

potent portal
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Unless that's running at 100% 24/7

surreal basalt
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My pc running for 8hours at MAX load with a 3080 costs less than 30 cents

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I’m Canadian tho

potent portal
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How much per kWh

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Because you're saving less than 1 kWh per day

earnest olive
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300 euros a month? doubt your rx 570 is a big part of that

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used to pay $200/month running the equivalent of 7x rx 570 tdp 24/7 mining

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then I got solar and it became $0/month

fossil cedar
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You can guesstimate by just googling the standard rate in your country

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If you're gaming the difference between like a 3060 and 3090 are like maybe €20 extra a year if that

earnest olive
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I live in cali, heating is not necessary

untold vessel
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Everyone, what is the best 240hz+, any Resolution, 1ms/0.5ms Response Time monitor for $150-$300 that we can get right now?

---I saw @mossy venture's recommendation in #tech-deals for $149.99, but couldn't find any more information for that model on Rtings.com. I like to do extensive research & study real-life testing, so stats "on the box" aren't necessarily perfect unless real-life testing can be shown.

---I additionally found this monitor on Rtings.com, https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/viewsonic/xg2431. It was the best recommended, but was very close to the $300 budget maximum, being $279.99 + Tax.

---Additionally, on the building side of things, which PC Hardware is an absolute must to support this kind of monitor output? Current Use case for this particular question is an i5-12600K + EVGA 3060 + 32 GB of 3200mhz CL16 RAM. Is this more than enough to run even the heaviest of Competitive eSport titles? (For the budget, we're most likely looking at 1080p performance)

TL;DR: Looking for the best 240Hz monitor for Hyper-Completive eSports titles. I am currently also looking at other important stats, such as 0.5ms / 0.3ms response times as valuble too. Budget: $150-$300, good deals/lower prices preferred if the cost-to-benefit ratio is > than higher priced cost-to-benefit ratios.

earnest olive
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winter is like 10c

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I moved to an even warmer part of cali for school

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now winter nights are like 14c

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ah yes

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europeans would not survive the summer

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nah, 50c is perfectly reasonable

potent portal
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We just got our first hurricane too

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No $4 lol

earnest olive
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ehh no

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strawberries can be found for like $5/kg sometimes

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depends

potent portal
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It's the off season right now, they go down to $1 later

earnest olive
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now what's minimum wage

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works out to $2640/month in cali

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so the $4 strawberries are relatively cheaper

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absolute cost of living is really high though yeah

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my old 2 bedroom apartment was 3250/month

potent portal
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SoCal is like that yep

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NorCal you're still looking at $2k median for a 2 bedroom

earnest olive
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(that was in norcal)

potent portal
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Bay Area then?

earnest olive
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yeah

potent portal
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Everyone wants to live there for some reason so it gets really expensive

gentle pollen
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potent portal
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You don't need to triple post, it makes it hard to keep track of what's been said

gentle pollen
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My bad.

earnest olive
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I thought you lived in mexico

heady kayak
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32GB sticks aren't going to OC well.

gentle pollen
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Postponing purchase of said parts till I am back to avoid having to ship it over.

gentle pollen
heady kayak
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Can you get away with 2x24GB?

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those will overclock a lot better

gentle pollen
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As for platform I am buying the x670e Tomahawk board.

heady kayak
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neither of those sets will hit XMP

heady kayak
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you won't even be doing 6400

potent portal
earnest olive
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don’t bother thinking about what to buy now

heady kayak
earnest olive
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the market will be different in a few months

gentle pollen
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I like to know things in advance and keep and eye on pricing.

heady kayak
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I would buy a 2x32GB 6000 kit.

gentle pollen
potent portal
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Yeah 6000 is about the most you could expect from it but he'll be manually overclocking anyway

heady kayak
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I wouldn't expect 6400

gentle pollen
heady kayak
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fair

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I'd only consider 6000 because it'll work out of the box

earnest olive
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there’s some value in having an xmp profile that you can expect to work even if you’re planning to manual ram oc

potent portal
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You can make your own DDR5 profiles though

earnest olive
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though I guess you could just turn on xmp and set 6000

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kinda just nice to have a fallback like if your friends wanna game but your ram oc is still in progress

potent portal
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Yeah you can program your own XMP timings into DDR5 to do just that

earnest olive
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that’s neat

heady kayak
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sure, but that's extra work

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why not buy something that works out of the box?

potent portal
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Not a lot of extra work tbh

earnest olive
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buy a-die kits and rewrite their xmp to sell for more money

gentle pollen
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Worst case I don't mind hopping off games for a day or two to get the timings stable.

potent portal
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Just copy/paste

earnest olive
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I’ve been messing with my ram for months

potent portal
earnest olive
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does it let you save all subtimings too?

potent portal
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Not all of them but some

earnest olive
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😦

potent portal
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It's really nice for if you're tuning your tertiaries and you bork it, needing to clear cmos and start over

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Load your user profile and you didn't lose much

earnest olive
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I need to get my hands on some ddr5

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still ddr4 coper

potent portal
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Picked a random kingston memory page, says this

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Here's what you can program in a XMP profile

earnest olive
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at least they got some of the more important ones

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but why did they include tRFC2 and tRFC4 😭

potent portal
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It's part of the spec, even if it's an unused part

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Just like resizable BAR was an unused part of the PCIe spec for a long time

earnest olive
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they could have put tREFI and tCWL there smh

south cliff
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What is a good monitor around like the 130-160 dollar range for a ps5

paper summit
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@runic spruce THATS MY PICTURE

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LMAOOO

runic spruce
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Ig i saved it back in October lmao

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I was looking for an old picture and thought it looked cool so I posted

paper summit
runic spruce
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How was the performance on that fine graphics card of yours

paper summit
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lmaooo

tawny fiber
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Soo a friend wants to sell a 3060ti

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What should the sell price be like

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I don't think it will be possible to sell for 350$ given how the thing only has 8gb

obsidian wigeon
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350 is doable

cyan ravine
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I doubt you'd get 350 cos 3070's go for 300

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Unless you got lucky by like fbmp

vague oracle
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kekw I just sold a 2080 super for almost $300 lmao

south cliff
obsidian wolf
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the rog strix one

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though

south cliff
earnest olive
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in general 3060tis are still going for 300-325 rn

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3070s still 350-375

vague oracle
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Really? I’ve seen 2080 supers go for around $200ish on eBay

earnest olive
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I'm seeing 260-400 + tax

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on ebay

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what platform did you sell on?

fossil cedar
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400 for a 2080 super in mid 2023 pfft

vague oracle
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Well technically RPI buy/sell discord

earnest olive
earnest olive
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and on the absolute lowest end of ebay prices

vague oracle
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Ahh ok, so I gave him a decent price then

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I kinda just pulled $300 out of my ass when I was offering him a price and hoped it was decent

potent portal
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Yeah that deal was pretty balanced on both sides

earnest olive
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if I was selling a 2080 super to a stranger 300 would be my asking price

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would take an offer of 275

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to a friend I guess 250 is enough

potent portal
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What if it was me, your very best friend in the whole world?

earnest olive
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I'd pay you $250 to take it obviously

potent portal
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D'aww
I expected you to say "for you? $400"

earnest olive
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as long as you're prepared to fight pato and rommy for that title

potent portal
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I think I could take a potato but Rommy...

earnest olive
potent portal
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Yes the ban hammer is mighty

earnest olive
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pato is very powerful too

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you just have to call him british to unleash his true power

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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yeah but it's ebay

earnest olive
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because the smart people are on HWS

fossil cedar
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cries in eu

leaden mauve
earnest olive
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for gpus anyways

tawny fiber
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How much would you guys pay for this rig

still crystal
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12 dollars and and sloth

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But if imma be real like 1300

potent portal
cerulean snow
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anyone knows if theres a $500 pre-built pc that can run boneworks?

south cliff
cerulean snow
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ok

south cliff
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500 is not really a good budget for a pre built

potent portal
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You're going to get sick from the low frame rate and resolution

south cliff
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because you will also might install mods

south cliff
cerulean snow
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ok

south cliff
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so your gonna have to save for a little while till about 850-1000

cerulean snow
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alright

south cliff
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can you build your own

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?

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or do you want pre built

cerulean snow
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maybe

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i could build my own

potent portal
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Recommended spec is probably a 1080 ti or 2070 to be able to hit the 90 fps most headsets can do

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Or 3060/6600 XT

south cliff
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you can get a used 6700xt for like 3000

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300

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in my area

cerulean snow
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ok

south cliff
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but just save for a little while

cerulean snow
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i will

still crystal
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I got a question what's the average price for a hardliners watercooled pc

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Hardline*

potent portal
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Both the CPU and GPU in the loop?

still crystal
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Yeah

potent portal
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It varies a lot but you can expect around $1k+ for just the loop, including all the parts, fittings, etc

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You can save money in some spots by cutting corners and getting combo units and spend maybe $600-700

still crystal
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I see

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Soo say the pfp of the server

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How much would that cost

potent portal
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Easily $1200-1400 depending on options

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Because RGB costs more ofc

still crystal
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I see

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And that's just the cooling alone not the entire pc

potent portal
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Yes

still crystal
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Yeesh

potent portal
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It's an expensive hobby lol

still crystal
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Okay well say I wanted to put a 4070ti and a i7 processor in it

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That would be what 2grand?

potent portal
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Total for the whole PC?

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More like $2500

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Unless you cut a few corners

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But going for a full double rad loop like the server banner is pricy

mossy venture
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Custom loop only really worth it if you're already buying top of the line components

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"Worth it" being used loosely

potent portal
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Yeah honestly a 4070 ti doesn't need the extra cooling

leaden mauve
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there's a lot of idiots on HWS

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as well as normal people lol

potent portal
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That goes for just about everywhere lol

leaden mauve
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more or less

vague oracle
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That was the actual price

runic spruce
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It’s only meant for top end parts but still the performance will be around the same in gaming and other task , it’ll only have cooler temps and higher clocks

still crystal
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Ite thx

runic spruce
still crystal
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So how much would u say a prebuild of this would cost

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Click the image idk why it shows the comment section

obsidian wolf
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Anything white is overprice most of the time

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that xtx is like 150$

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over the black one u can get

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you can get less ram

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and make it cheaper

elfin flame
leaden mauve
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that memory is not worth 350 copium

obsidian wolf
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Well yeah........

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But again...............

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White stuff

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overprice

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However if choose to do black without no ram rgb

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and upgrades and everything black

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I can make this build in a 1800$

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or less

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I think

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Wanna see?

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I will use (Deals)

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😦

runic spruce
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U can’t even see the white psu lol

jagged ember
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350 FOR 128GB 3200 CL16??

potent portal
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Wait what

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No

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No one needs 128GB unless you're doing super heavy workstation tasks like huge databases

jagged ember
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Hey look reasonable priced ram

frigid night
dusty cedar
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thats assuming i'm using exactly what i already have and only changing those 2 pieces of hardware. i would also need to up my psu to 950w minimum.

frigid night
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gotcha.

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I'm planning on getting that gpu and then selling my 3080 12gb aorus master and then grabbing the cpu. I don't think I truly need a 13900k though so I may just go for 13600k/13700k

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then I'd be upgrading to ddr5

dusty cedar
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yeah i already got all that but i wanted to save some money so my wife wouldn't flip her shh.... at the cost. i have the funds for it but the 13700k and 3080 is fine for me for now. i dont think i would actually NEED anything more but why not

cyan ravine
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13600K would be fine with it tbh @frigid night , you won't gain much at all between that and the i9

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Just promise me you go 4K lol

frigid night
cyan ravine
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Epic

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Yeah it'll be quite good

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Hopefully the aero is like, near msrp

dusty cedar
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they're all stupid expensive

frigid night
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idk what msrp is for the 4090 but neweg has it listed for 1749

cyan ravine
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I'd go suprim instead if it was similar price or better to aero

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Ehh 1749 is suprim price

dusty cedar
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maybe dropping these days now but i havent looked in a while either so

cyan ravine
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Surpim is actually better lol

frigid night
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is it?

cyan ravine
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It's a steel finish tho

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Yeah it is

frigid night
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the aero seems to have almost all good stuff on it

cyan ravine
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Suprim is unironically the 2nd best behind HoF

dusty cedar
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its also water cooled if you cared about that aspect

frigid night
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oh ok

cyan ravine
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HoF is best but also 3 grand

frigid night
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gotcha

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I'll look at suprim then

cyan ravine
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Awesome

frigid night
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unless you know anyone that needs to get rid of one? 😉

cyan ravine
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  • looks at mine * uuhhhh
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Not yet 💀

dusty cedar
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same. you know anyone that wants to just give one away?

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lol

lyric thistle
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Whatever it is please don't give it to me

frigid night
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in most games

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some games def have a huge jump with the 13600k

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I might just skip going 13th gen and just upgrade to ddr5

dusty cedar
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the ddr5 i got is plenty fast and is fairly cheap

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100 bucks

frigid night
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and it's white LOL

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I think I'd want to go ddr5 6000 though

dusty cedar
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yeah. i have an all white build so yeah. but you can get it in whatever color they have

frigid night
dusty cedar
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i just got the those because it wasn't 300 bucks for 2 sticks of ram ya know

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also keeps the rgb to a minimum. i wanted some but not everything needs to glow

frigid night
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yeah I don't need RAM to glow. just a solid white is ok for me

cyan ravine
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Reo

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Ripjaws S5 5600 CL28

frigid night
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yes my love?

cyan ravine
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117(?)$

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Will run 6000

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But good auto timings

cyan ravine
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Ye second one

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There's also teamgroup for $95

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Also good hynix stuff

frigid night
cyan ravine
frigid night
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meh rgb

cyan ravine
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Ah no the 95$ ones are black vulcans not steel nvm

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Perform basically the same on intel

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6000 might be a touch faster

frigid night
cyan ravine
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It'll be the same chips so same result

frigid night
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crazy how this ddr5 is cheaper than my ddr4 ballistix LOL

cyan ravine
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Auto training will mean they'll still run within like a couple % of each other

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What's more important you get a kit that has a lot of potential to it

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So you can reuse it later

frigid night
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right soo.. the 5600 has more potential?

cyan ravine
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Both the same

frigid night
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right ok

frigid night
cyan ravine
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Going by clocking up xmp? Meh, 5600 cl28 a little bit

frigid night
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now to find a good white mobo 😛

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I might do the mobo/ddr5 first and see if the 4090 will drop a little more

cyan ravine
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Or just roll with the z690 you have

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I think there's a couple white boards that cheap

frigid night
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I plan on selling each of the components I'm replacing.

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although.. maybe I should go for a 13th gen cpu so I can just build the old stuff in another pc and sell it that way

cyan ravine
#

Oh it's not ddr5? Ah

frigid night
# cyan ravine Oh it's not ddr5? Ah

yeah.. I finally got my taxes from last year + interest, which is what I was going to use to build my PC last year.. so now I'm just gonna use it to revamp my whole PC this year.

frigid night
#

@cyan ravine Mister Suprim X master.. I never got a vertical mount for my o11d evo.. It looks like I will need to get one. I can't remember which one you were recommending.

cyan ravine
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I currently have mine horizontal

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if you were getting one get the one that Lian Li sells

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specifically for the case

frigid night
#

So I'm not sure what that means then

cyan ravine
#

are you gonna use the adapter?

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the stock one

frigid night
#

I think so. I have the Antec HCG Gold 1kw psu

cyan ravine
#

hm might need one then

frigid night
#

I mean, I wanted to get one any ways

cyan ravine
#

me with suprim + cablemod 12vhpwr I can use it horizontal

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no angled adapter just a cable

frigid night
#

How long did it take before you got the cablemod ?

cyan ravine
#

a little while

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supply is probably better now

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I ordered like, before the suprim was out

frigid night
#

ah lol ok

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which one? variant a or b?

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I figure I'll get it ordered now

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nvm. Cablemod has te compatibilty list

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so it's variant a

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for the 90 degree

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It's only $50 more for the liquid cooled version of the suprim x

cyan ravine
#

I can't remember which variant yeah dogehappykek

little osprey
#

Yo

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Looking for a GPU that supports 1080p without any drivers

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Something like GT 710

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But cheaper, perferably AMD to fit the theme

paper summit
#

Love old amd gpus 😭

cyan ravine
#

I love AMD

paper summit
cyan ravine
#

I LOVE AMD

#

AMD IS THE GREATEST COMPANY OF THE TRIOPOLY

untold vessel
cyan ravine
#

4090 can

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All AAA no way

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But a number of games it 100% can

little osprey
#

Otherwise take your clown license and leave 😤

cyan ravine
#

Idk what to answer

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💀

little osprey
cyan ravine
#

It's definitely gonna be an old card

compact girder
#

so im going back and forth with this, and can’t figure it out.

i currently have a pcie 3.0 1tb drive and i’m upgrading my mb and getting a pcie 4.0 . 2 Tb.

Would I be able to use both the pcie 3.0 and 4.0 at the same time in this motherboard

Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming WiFi II AMD AM4 (3rd Gen Ryzen) ATX Gaming Motherboard (PCIe 4.0,WiFi 6E, 2.5Gb LAN, BIOS Flashback, HDMI 2.1, Addressable Gen 2 RGB Header and Aura Sync) https://a.co/d/hHg1quq

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while pairing it with the 5800x3d

paper summit
compact girder
#

@cyan ravine what u think? about what I asked

little osprey
#

PCIe generation doesn't really matter too much

compact girder
little osprey
#

👍

gentle pollen
fossil cedar
lyric pivot
#

Trying vertical mount a water cooled 3090 just don’t know what the best mounting piece I should get for it

compact girder
#

i got a 3080, getting the 5800x 3d

fossil cedar
#

What country you in and do you have any pcie slot requirements? WiFi etc?

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Honestly i wouldn't get the 5800x3d these days unless the price has dropped again

compact girder
compact girder
#

preferably amazon

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but Im fine with other sellers

fossil cedar
#

13600kf and 5800x3d trade blows while being able to be cheaper especially after factoring in the cooler

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And the z690 has 3 nvme slots

compact girder
#

i’ll look into it, i appreciate it

fossil cedar
#

No probs

fossil cedar
#

Mtn dew it

paper summit
fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
#

csgo stutters

gentle pollen
#

Mhmm, all goes well my ram just arrive in 3 days then it's OC time.

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G.Skill Ripjaws 4000cl18

fossil cedar
#

Hmmm, have they tried diff driver versions with clean install? Verifying game file?

paper summit
paper summit
vague oracle
fossil cedar
#

Well if you try expand on what you've done and what's wrong i might be able to help more

vague oracle
#

Mine is literal perfection

fossil cedar
#

6950 for 600 is insane

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Asrock gpus meta

vague oracle
#

OCF for $650 is crazy

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And that’s not even on sale

paper summit
fossil cedar
#

Gpu***

gentle pollen
#

why is it AMD seems to pretty much always be the one with gpu issues....

paper summit
#

I dont have another gpu

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I will once my sisters 1070ti comes

vague oracle
#

Ngl, I had more issues with my 2080 than all 3 of my AMD cards

gentle pollen
#

oh strange.

paper summit
#

I was just gonna buy a 3080 but I've heard from people that the cards with the most issues are the 6700xt and 6600xt

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So maybe 6900/6950 will be fine?

gentle pollen
#

What are you currently running?

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Oh wait, 6700xt.

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I mean you can always refund the gpu if it has issues so why not.

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Oh.

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Refund the man!

paper summit
obsidian wolf
#

Just to cheap at this point for people to skip it

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And with FSR 3 coming to the 6000 series as well

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I just see the 6950 as the best option tbh

obsidian wigeon
#

6950xt is probs worth it

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seeing as there's little issues

obsidian wolf
#

I had minimal issues with it at the start

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But it was due to the Radeom software

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Ocing the card without me doing anything to it like that

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Automatically

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But the software notice it fast enough, since them I haven’t seen that many crashes and those crashes have been more cause on the type of games I play that are known for having a lot of them

paper summit
#

Good to know

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I'll keep it in mind

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Gotta catch up on fsr3

obsidian wolf
#

Trust me it will be good

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6950 xt in my opinion is the best money / performance

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Currently

vague oracle
#

FSR3 is coming to 6000 series?

obsidian wolf
#

One could argue a used 3090 at like 800$ is also good but meh for that you have the 4070 to with like dlss 3.0

obsidian wolf
vague oracle
#

That makes me even happier about buying my 6950

obsidian wolf
#
Hardware Times

The upcoming third iteration of FSR will likely work on existing Radeon cards and competitor GeForce offerings. AMD’s Frank Azor revealed this in an interview with PCWorld. According to the Alienware founder, FSR 3.0 isn’t a reaction to DLSS 3. Instead, he explained AMD’s open-source approach and stated that designing an advanced upscaler with i...

obsidian wolf
#

But the more I used everyday the happier I am with my purchase

vague oracle
#

For me it was either 6950x, RTX6000 or one of the Radeon Pro cards

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Went for cheapest option and I’m so happy with it

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OCs like crazy and gets so much done in my CAD work

obsidian wolf
#

Nice

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For me since I just game and stuff with it

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For now at least I get to do stuff I couldn’t before but obviously any graphic card past the 6700xt in my case would’ve achieve that

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But I don’t only look at that I also look at how much I spent for it

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And how much it can actually do outside of that gaming sector

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Like 600$ and 650$ for a graphic card that was the best for its generation in its respective company is crazy

vague oracle
#

I once bought a 6700xt way back when the shortage was a thing and I remember returning it because I wasn’t happy with the performance

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Ended up with a 6800xt

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Then warranties the 6800xt and got a 3080 12gb

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Still have that 3080 but it’s back home and I was using a 2080 super here in college

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Then sold the 2080 and bought the 6950

fossil cedar
paper summit
#

AHHHHH why am I so indecisive

vague oracle
#

Buy the 6950

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Join me in my OC ways

paper summit
#

Hmm

fossil cedar
#

Like here's an issue i had with Nvidia ish, tensorflow 1.x requires cuda 10 but cuda 10 doesn't support 3000 series and tensorflow 2.x requires code to be rewritten

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My gpu was too new to gpu accelerate the code because no support for cuda 10

vague oracle
#

Skill issue

fossil cedar
#

Clearly

paper summit
vague oracle
#

10700k

paper summit
#

Wait then who had the 5900x🗿

fossil cedar
#

Actually danny have you tried enabling/disabling resizeable bar?

fossil cedar
#

Hmm

vague oracle
paper summit
#

Whaaaaa

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Why

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DO IT

#

We can be twins lmao

vague oracle
#

That’s in my PC back home that my dad is using

paper summit
#

Mmm ok

vague oracle
#

…I probably could convince him to give it back

paper summit
#

Well does he need 12 cores?

vague oracle
#

Kinda yeah

#

I also could use them too

paper summit
#

EXACTLY

vague oracle
#

Nah tho, 10700k works better for what I need this PC to do

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Well half of what I need it to do

#

The other half a 5900x would be better…

paper summit
#

Sneak the 10700k in his pc 🗿

vague oracle
#

I think he’d notice the AIO being gone and replaced with a giant ass tower cooler

paper summit
#

LMAO

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Nah man

vague oracle
#

I probably could convince him the CPU is the cause of his occasional crashes

paper summit
#

Oh nahhhh

leaden mauve
#

the more the merrier JJKWOKE

paper summit
obsidian wolf
#

Honestly I was indecisive at the start

#

as well due to the great marketing Nvidia has which is the main issue with AMD

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"THE BEST GAMING GRAPHICS CARD" MF

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I need more info and accessible faster from one eye catchy add

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Not just a plain sentence telling me that is just gaming

#

But again Danny is all about what you are doing with your computer

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gaming or work?

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Video editing, rendering, testing, etc

frigid night
atomic epoch
#

help

atomic epoch
#

does a 7900 xtx really not fit in a mid atx?

leaden mauve
#

some mid-towers like yours are really shallow length-wise, so yea. some dont

atomic epoch
#

ripperoni

leaden mauve
#

😔

flint sapphire
#

North 👀

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Or will it

atomic epoch
#

the internet told me this will fit it so i just ordered it

flint sapphire
#

North would barely fit it, 355mm max kekw

atomic epoch
#

I fiddled with it for a little bit. there's no chance Ill get it in there lol

vague oracle
regal shard
atomic epoch
regal shard
#

Yeah that thing can even fit a 4090 you’ll be good

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I have that case

atomic epoch
#

what how lol

regal shard
#

This is 3070 ti from zotac

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317.6mm

atomic epoch
#

Ill try fitting it when i get there

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for right now im having trouble getting these plastic adapters for the heat sink off the mobo

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these screws will not budge

regal shard
#

Damn your build is gonna be crazy

atomic epoch
#

🙂

regal shard
#

Do you have the case rn or are u still waiting for it?

atomic epoch
#

i have it right now yes

regal shard
#

Oh yeah it’ll fit %100 the 7900xt is smaller than my gpu

atomic epoch
#

interesting thanks

regal shard
#

Np

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Do you have a pc parts picker list?

atomic epoch
#

soory i forgot crty v lol

tribal crater
#

What would you say is the better MB option for RGB? I had fusion and didn't like how it had basic option for a lot of things like memory, MB and RAM, and better options for fans. Is there a better option like mystic lighting or Icue? or do they all not have the same lighting options for everything? Ended up having to use Signal RGB. Like to try and simplify the next a build a little as far as the one type of RGB throughout.

jagged ember
#

Singalrgb or OpenRGB are the most simple and non bloatwaree

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Everything else is bloatware or just doesn't work well

#

As far as I know, at least

runic spruce
#

They usally give u the measurements of the case online

atomic epoch
#

anyone around? I just cant find the power pins on my motherboard

dusty cedar
#

crazy cause they're huge.

atomic epoch
#

lol about that

dusty cedar
#

what power pins are you even talking about?

atomic epoch
#

to turn my system on

obsidian wigeon
#

that jumper is for clearing cmos in the manual

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not booting

dusty cedar
#

its literally the thing right next to that red circle

obsidian wigeon
#

i think you're looking at the wrong side of the mobo

dusty cedar
#

to the right of it. the picture you posted is also the top right of the board

obsidian wigeon
#

^

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it's bottom right

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but you're looking at top right

dusty cedar
#

bottom left is your hd audio. far bottom right is power

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turn your board to match the picture......

atomic epoch
#

these?

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gpu is large and in the way lol

obsidian wigeon
#

that's clear cmos

#

but you're at the right side now

dusty cedar
#

what even is their website. the mouse tracker cant even keep up

atomic epoch
#

this is what I'm looking at

dusty cedar
#

these have got to be the most unhelpful pictures i've ever seen tbh. i'm trying to look for the user manual for that and even their website is a mess

atomic epoch
#

hats why im having trouble lmao

dusty cedar
#

page 10

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number block 15 on the board.

atomic epoch
#

ah there it be

dusty cedar
#

🥳

#

thats where we said it was. but there's your manual also.

atomic epoch
#

just to make sure I don't f up is it the two on the bottom right?

dusty cedar
atomic epoch
#

ah gotcha ty

dusty cedar
#

any question you have or will have about your motherboard is in there. your motherboard should have also come with a manual or a link to one.

atomic epoch
#

okay another idiot question, i have the computer on but no signal to the monitor

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i tried the display port and hdmi onboth the mobo and graphic card

potent portal
atomic epoch
#

there's these two little red ones that are under my gpu at the bottom and a few pulsating rgb above that

atomic epoch
#

I'll let it sit for 15 minutes ot so see if that does anything

potent portal
#

Are the red ones these lights?

atomic epoch
#

right next to where it says usb 32 yes

potent portal
#

Ok, which ones are lit, Boot, VGA, DRAM, or CPU?

atomic epoch
#

to be completely honest I can't tell the gpu is in the way. if I had to guess it looks like cpu and vga

potent portal
#

CPU is bad

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That's not a waiting light that's an error

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If it was DRAM then it would be training and waiting

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Were you using a X3D processor by chance?

atomic epoch
#

it's a 780px3d

potent portal
#

Ah that'll be it then

atomic epoch
#

7800x3d

potent portal
#

You need to update the bios

atomic epoch
#

dang I've heard that can be tough lol

potent portal
#

It's not too bad

#

Extract that file to a FAT32 formatted USB (doesn't have to be empty) and rename it CREATIVE.ROM

atomic epoch
#

if is actually cpu and dram what would that mean?

potent portal
#

Plug drive into the correct USB port on the back, press flash button, and wait for flashing to stop

atomic epoch
#

and could it be an external ssd yhays all I have on hand

potent portal
atomic epoch
#

gotcha

potent portal
#

The correct port to use will be this one probably, they made it stand out

potent portal
atomic epoch
#

gotcha I'll try all that. thanks

atomic epoch
#

unfortunately the light is still red 😦

potent portal
#

If it flashed, about how long was it flashing?

atomic epoch
#

it flashed for probably about 5 minutes, then turned off

potent portal
#

That's good at least

#

Can you tell which light is on now out of the 4? Maybe get your phone in there to take a pic/vid

atomic epoch
#

it is 1 and 3 looks like. cpu and cga

potent portal
#

Try with just 1 stick of RAM and see if that changes anything

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Counting from the left the first and third lights would be "boot" and "DRAM" also

atomic epoch
potent portal
#

Mmmm DRAM and CPU then

dusty cedar
#

does his motherboard have a digital debug code light on it or just those indicators?

untold vessel
#

Guys, what's the cheapest way to run a 4k120hz signal for 40ft? The wire is going from my PC to a 4k120Hz TV across the room. The current solutions I've found have been purchasing a 40ft 4k120Hz HDMI cord, but they're >/= to $100. Any better or cheaper options? 'Not too knowledgeable about wires.

dusty cedar
#

f

potent portal
#

The code display is a super rare feature this gen, you won't find it on a board under $300

dusty cedar
#

seriously?

potent portal
#

Sadly yes

atomic epoch
#

taking a stick out didn't help

dusty cedar
#

thats wack

potent portal
#

Ok I say try the flash again

dusty cedar
#

i thought it was standard tbh

potent portal
#

And if it still doesn't work, again, and again, and again

#

I've seen it take a dozen tries to get it to stick, and 3 different USB sticks

#

Some boards are picky like I said

#

Worst case you get a twin pack of cheap USB 2.0 drives for $1 with same day delivery on amazon

frigid night
cyan ravine
#

the only same day delivery I get is NT-H2 everything else takes a week

potent portal
#

Well when they have to cross a thousand miles of outback to get to you that'll happen

dusty cedar
#

ever since i moved cities and states i get next day. not even same day. i hate the place i'm in now.

#

almost everything else through anything else is 3 day delivery

cyan ravine
fossil cedar
dark island
#

Hey guys

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Does anyone know if the 4070 gigabite windforce oc comes with the 16 pin or if I should buy a atx 3.0 psu

obsidian wigeon
#

From what I'm looking at, it seems to use traditional 8 pin

dark island
#

We haven’t had smth like this since the 16 series CPU’s

#

Gpus *

obsidian wigeon
#

Either way you don't need to buy atx 3.0 psu

dark island
#

Nice

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Thx

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I appreciate it

obsidian wigeon
#

The adapters that comes with those gpus takes 8 pin

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Usually one or two for 4070

dark island
#

Now I js gotta pray to god that it fits in my case

dark island
obsidian wigeon
#

I mean, you can easily read case specs to verify if it fits with it

dark island
dark island
obsidian wigeon
#

It can fit 4090's

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So I don't see 4070 wouldn't

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Even 3 fan ones

#

Windforce is way below it being tight in the case

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It's 261mm long

dark island
dark island
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Cuz i also installed a radiator so things can get abit tight

obsidian wigeon
#

It's probably fine

#

Might be tight but I feel it will fit

regal shard
dark island
#

I’ll say good so far

#

Thx for asking

#

Js need to buy the gpu and the psu

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That’s why I’m asking questions

regal shard
#

What psu u getting??

regal shard
dark island
dark island
regal shard
#

Yeah that’ll be plenty

dark island
#

Ye I’m js future proofing incase I upgrade anything

regal shard
#

This your first time owning a gaming pc?

dark island
#

Still building one

#

But yes

#

It’s my first time

dim forge
#

guys a friend of mine is choosing a new laptop

#

he does multimedia stuff, like rendering, adobe photoshop, illustrator

#

would a 12500H and a 3060 be a good start?

vague oracle
#

Is he doing it professionally or not?

dim forge
#

Yeah, he's just finishing college and he studies like smth multimedia engineering

wide barn
#

hey can anyone help me make a good pc but decently cheap

#

idk my price range rn

obsidian wigeon
#

honestly, we can't really help if there's no budget

wide barn
#

later**

atomic epoch
#

how many times on a new build should I have to flash the bios? CPU led is still on so I'm not sure what else to do. I've switched the ram and adjusted the cpu cooler a little to see if either of those was what caused it

#

I've tried 3 different drives and a out 5 times each

obsidian wigeon
#

This sounds pretty unusual

#

Are you sure you're using the correct bios file with correct version?

#

The version with update on supporting X3D chips

atomic epoch
#

latest version yes

obsidian wigeon
#

Maybe latest version doesn't include the update you need

#

Spot the exact version that adds support for new cpus

atomic epoch
#

gotcha

#

interesting the lastest version deosnt say 7000 series maybe thats it

obsidian wigeon
#

Yeah

#

Get the 1.18 version

atomic epoch
#

unfortunately that wasn't successful either

deep osprey
#

what is a solid cpu/gpu combo for a $1100-1200 build

#

i was thinking a 6700xt and a i5 12400f for cpu and gpu but i don’t have much experience with stuff like that

obsidian wigeon
#

Or in a very rare case, the cpu happens to be dead. That I very much doubt however

#

It's usually the mobo

atomic epoch
#

dang that would suck

still crystal
#

I need some advice I have a budget of 2000 and I want a 40 series at least with a decent processor Preferably a prebuilt

#

And this chat is dead isn't it

atomic epoch
#

IT POSTED FINALLY

still crystal
dusty cedar
# still crystal And this chat is dead isn't it

it's not dead. also, good luck getting a prebuilt with a 40 series card for anything less than 3 to 3.5k from a store since for 2k budget their still putting a 10 series cards in them. maybe a 30 series if you're lucky.

#

but you can build one yourself for around that much

mossy venture
#

Or 7900xtx, same perf for cheaper

strong raft
frigid night
#

@austere condor confirmed to be a paid reviewer 😉 troll

frigid night
austere condor
#

ah

#

yeah. i dont review stuff

#

i just do photos

atomic epoch
#

okay new idiot question, I have posted and then turned evrything off and added my GPU

#

the display port signal is still coming from my motherboard now and i see the GPU is on with the fans spinning

#

Is there something im forgetting or should that be happening?

atomic epoch
#

I have tried re seating the gpu and making sure the power connectors are all the way in

deep osprey
#

is a 6750xt and ryzen 5 7600x a good choice?

south cliff
#

yeah its a pretty nice combo

#

what are you going to spend on it

#

or budget

atomic epoch
#

thanks

deep osprey
#

went real cheap with the case though

lyric thistle
#

Mine wasn't exactly bottom dollar but it was 45 dollars I think

dense brook
mossy venture
mossy venture
tawny fiber
#

i love this

mossy venture
deep osprey
#

that’s nice

tawny fiber
#

the 7900xt build was significantly stronger

mossy venture
#

I wouldnt go am4 for any "budget" ish system

deep osprey
#

yea i know i think i’d rather spend less though but i don’t know a whole lot about pcs but the the 5600 doesn’t seem like enough for a 7900 idk though

mossy venture
#

5600 is good enough for even a 7900xt at 1440p for gaming

deep osprey
#

oh alr just wasn’t sure about it

mossy venture
#

If you look at gaming benchmarks comparing 5600 to 7600 with a 7900xt at 1440p, it isn't a very big difference

#

It performs a hell of a lot better than 7600 and 6750xt in a lot of scenarios

deep osprey
#

yeah i’m only planning on using 1440p anyways

normal tide
#

By any chance can someone dm me so I can make sure I have everything compatible and the right parts? I have it all in pc part picker already

obsidian wigeon
#

Just post the link here

dusty cedar
#

well, on the website it will tell you on the bottom if everything is going to conflict. unless your part list is all on newegg?

potent portal
#

They said pc part picker specifically

obsidian wigeon
#

Oh dear

#

The evga white 80+ psu is pretty low quality, I would suggest against buying it

cyan ravine
#

You swapped a good power supply for a literal bomb...

analog hearth
#

I think it would be best to switch at that bomb (PSU)

obsidian wigeon
#

^

analog hearth
#

80+ isn't enough. it's a lower tier than 80+ Bronze

obsidian wigeon
#

Mobo might risk not working with the cpu

cyan ravine
#

Also I can tidy up this list

#

Give me 5 minutes

obsidian wigeon
#

Go Felix deviousfroge

cyan ravine
normal tide
#

So is that list a lot better?

obsidian wigeon
#

Ya

#

Better optimized for price/perf ratio

cyan ravine
#

Not to mention the board has a 100% chance of working instead of an uncertainty

#

Quite a powerful board too, could handle a 5950x

#

Few.other things too, CPU is better, GPU is slightly better, you now also have 32gb of ram instead of 16gb which is a big deal in 2023

#

If anything you could still use a G5 650W but that 109$ price is very hefty for it

#

Quite a few good options prior that are cheaper and meet a good enough, similar or better safety spec for that level of system

normal tide
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Yeah I’m just attempting to keep it a budget build

cyan ravine
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We're just about in that, entry level tier for a proper budget build with this list

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Once you hit about below the $650-$700-ish mark the value drops off tremendously for a whole new build

normal tide
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Yeah I’ve heard it’s around that line

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I’ve just been having people help me along the way because I know next to nothing about pc’s

jagged ember
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Felix's list good

dark island
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Hey guys I have a question

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Is an atx 3.0 power supply necessary

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Cuz I may get a 4070

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And it’s abit more expensive than others

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Is it worth the few bucks ?

mossy venture
dark island
mossy venture
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It is not necessary no

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You don't even need atx 3.0 for a 4090