building-and-recc-chat

[potent portal]

The savings got put back into the GPU, upgrading the 6750 to a 6800

[obsidian grove]

Oh I see

[obsidian wolf]

used one in ebay was 383$ the other day

[obsidian wigeon]

6800 is nice

[obsidian grove]

So how much more for wifi motherboard?

[obsidian wigeon]

it's already in that list

don't worry about it

pato made everything for you

[obsidian grove]

Ah sorry bit anxious when spending big amounts of money

Especially since I won’t be building another or most likely upgrading for another 2 years

[obsidian wigeon]

Later you can upgrade cooler and plop 5800X3D on if you really want

[obsidian grove]

Is it easy to upgrade?

[mossy venture]

yes

[obsidian wigeon]

All you will need is a cooler and the cpu

[obsidian grove]

Alright

[potent portal]

You just take off the cooler and take the CPU out, then plop the new one in the socket. Then clean and repaste the cooler before reattaching.

[obsidian wigeon]

I wouldn't do X3D on gammaxx 400 tho :p

AG620 or equivalent at min

[potent portal]

Yeah true, that won't be very fun

[obsidian grove]

?

[obsidian wigeon]

Talking about cooling requirements of the ryzen 7 5800x3d

[potent portal]

5800X3D is one of the hottest CPUs in existence so it would need a better cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

It needs a chunky cooler

[potent portal]

That's not really anything you need to worry about for a long time though

[obsidian grove]

Ah okey

[potent portal]

We get off topic on tangents a lot lol

[obsidian grove]

Nah it’s fine

I really want to learn a new skill

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9fxpC6

Unsure where to go from here

Need help picking a board mostly

[obsidian wigeon]

get 5700x

[potent portal]

Well to start with I wouldn't get a 5800X right now

[obsidian wigeon]

it's the same thing

[potent portal]

Either do 5700X or 5800X3D

Or 5600 for that matter, it'll game the same and you can get a better GPU

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nh2Jcb

or 12600kf

any of those 3

[little osprey]

5800X is like $7 more though

[mossy venture]

and performs the same while being much hotter

[little osprey]

Ooooooh

Thermal issues

Okay

So 5700X?

[mossy venture]

or 5600 or 12600kf

[little osprey]

What board then?

[mossy venture]

pro vdh wifi

[little osprey]

👍

One sec

@mossy venture, will I need a CPU for BIOS update?

[mossy venture]

no

bios flash button, and likely won't need a bios update

[little osprey]

@mossy venture https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Slovskii/saved/yrF8ZL

?

[fossil cedar]

Pretty much everything is different but just as good or better

[obsidian grove]

Ahh I’m probably overthinking but I don’t really priorities graphics as long as it’s not massive downgrade from Xbox series s I’m good

[fossil cedar]

And just less money overall

[obsidian grove]

If I decide to upgrade in the future to ryzen 7

Will I need to change the power supply too?

And cpu cooler

[potent portal]

Power supply no, cooler maybe. It depends on which R7.

[obsidian grove]

Ah and for the website

So you buy directly from them or

[potent portal]

Pcpartpicker? They link you to the sites to buy from when you click the prices

It'll also show you the price at various retailers if you click the item itself

[obsidian grove]

Oh sorry

[potent portal]

So if it's $2 more at amazon but you get prime shipping that might be worth the extra

[obsidian grove]

Yeah It linked me to a unfamiliar site

[potent portal]

B&H?

All the sites on there are trustworthy

[obsidian grove]

Computersalge

[potent portal]

Ah yes sweden I forgot

[obsidian grove]

Yeah but what I think about is taxes and shipping

I can pay double the price

Just bc I’m getting it outside eu

[potent portal]

Shipping is usually included in the prices, but not tax

[obsidian grove]

Yeah it very high here

Especially outside Europe

Good news

Seems to be one store here

Nvm it’s in denmark

[fossil cedar]

I mean you could do that now for not much overbudget but if you where to go overbudget you could get a 6800xt instead which would be an even better gpu, the build i sent is a pretty food balance tho, and most would be looking to upgrade the gpu first and then you'd probably want to change platforms (ryzen 9000+/intel 15000+ when they comes out) which would also require a motherboard and ram upgrade anyway so

[dim reef]

do y’all think the ryzen 5 5600x price will go down by summer

[mossy venture]

5600 is cheaper and just as good

[obsidian wolf]

Any complaints or thoughts on the Hyte Y60?

[fossil cedar]

Iirc Gamers nexus liked it overall

[mossy venture]

it's good

[potent portal]

As long as your GPU isn't too thick so it's too close to the glass it's good for a case that's trying to break the rectangular mold.

[obsidian wolf]

the 4090

[dim forge]

Guys, I recently built my pc but I'm planning on doing some upgrades on the future:

1. 12100 to 12400 or 12600K (if it goes under 200$)
2. 2060 to a used 3060 / 6600xt (might even do a 3060ti if I get a good swap deal)
   Which one is a better upgrade

I might aswell not upgrade anything this year and just replace my iphone

[tawny fiber]

a gpu upgrade should do more good

[regal shard]

I’d be more focused on the vram now

[jagged ember]

Don't even.

[mossy venture]

12100f is fine with a 3080 at 1440p, sips ran it with oced B die with a 3090 and the 3090 was the bottleneck. I'd upgrade gpu

Probably 6700/xt if possible

[flint sapphire]

Goty

[zenith cargo]

@potent portal

yk how to fix these weird liens

lines*

have everything on max quality

is it cuz my monitor is 1080p

[mossy venture]

Aren't those power lines?

It looks like either bad graphics or some weird graphics setting

[zenith cargo]

yea those are power lines

but idk why my graphics look really bad

[mossy venture]

Have you checked graphics settings?

[zenith cargo]

yes

its all on high

[earnest olive]

ummm no

[potent portal]

Do you have DLSS or FSR on

[earnest olive]

the 3090 was not the bottleneck

[zenith cargo]

nope

[earnest olive]

the 12100f was bottlenecking the 3090, i was just surprised by how small the bottleneck was

[zenith cargo]

it even looked like that on my 3060

[mossy venture]

Ah ok, mb

[potent portal]

Well you could try higher AA settings, like DLAA

[mossy venture]

It looks like a texture setting is on low, I have no clue if that game has it but if it has rtx and you have it on turn it off

And double check texture settings

[zenith cargo]

the game barely has any graphic settings

[potent portal]

If that still doesn't work try DSR to render at a higher resolution to get more detail

[mossy venture]

What game is it

[zenith cargo]

beamng

[mossy venture]

Ah

I've never played I've no clue what the settings are like

[obsidian wolf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DCpCH2 so this is my final friend build

We opted out of the white build concept because it would go above the budget in looks, but he like how this looks, and he has extra money room to get fans, an in the future if needed another ssd but the has plenty of that in his current build

Although the case he originally wanted is also out of stock, Black h9 elite is currently 350$ in newegg so He's not getting that

Although I mention the Dynamic Liam Li Evo could be an option as well, but we gotta talk that tomorrow night when he starts buying everything, saw a couple of videos already on the thermal issues with Hyte 60 though.

[languid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-looney-tunes-cash-money-counting-money-gif-17544086

[obsidian wigeon]

@zenith cargo have you done this? getting into this menu to enable aa and put it on msaa

[dense brook]

the 1060 6G plays the diablo4 really well. max settings over near 90fps
is it wise to buy a rx580 for 40usd?
or jus get a 1060 6G , 1660, 1660super?

[obsidian wigeon]

if this is a diablo only pc

i guess the 580 for 40 bucks is good

[dense brook]

yea just diablo4

[strong raft]

Just know 580 & 1060 are pretty close, then 1660 is around 15% faster than both. pic from TPU for a quick semi-comparison

[jagged ember]

But just for diablo

It's fine

[earnest olive]

what prices can you get the other cards for?

[dense brook]

102 for a 1060 6g strix
43 for a rx580 strix
86 for 1660 6g gigabyte windforce (2fans)

[earnest olive]

go for the rx 580

[dense brook]

too bad the 1060 6g is 102usd

[dense brook]

Found someone locally selling 1060 6g
Sorry it’s the 1st time I buy a used gpu. Is there anything to lookout for?

[mossy venture]

Make sure you either confirm its working in person or have them send a timestamped video of it working

Or some form of verification that it works

I wouldnt spend over like $80 on a 1060 6gb anymore personally, but I'm not sure what's the going price used for them right now

[dense brook]

found one with box 70us 😛

[dense brook]

He said he won’t put it back into his pc to check. Will give me back the money if there’s any problem 😵‍💫

[frigid night]

Red flag.

[dense brook]

A quick check would be nice since it’s a 7yr old gpu 🤣

[obsidian wigeon]

is it ebay?

[dense brook]

Seems that the fans do break over time

[obsidian wigeon]

if it's ebay you can easily get money back

[dense brook]

Carosell, the seller sold some items over 7yrs but there’s no ratings

A face 2 face transaction

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

well that's a bit suspicious

[heady kayak]

the 580 is always going to be a better choice

don’t pay more for a 1060

[paper summit]

Passive 6900xt when

[cyan ravine]

A 580 chooses when it wants to be a 6900xt

When ur not looking ofc

[frigid night]

You could do what sips does and have a test bench in a shoe box to bring with you.

[coral scroll]

yo

do these all work together?

[south cliff]

@potent portal didn’t get it again they did the same thing and I put a automatic big but I guess it didn’t work

[south cliff]

Get 13400f

And 32 gb of ram shouldn’t cost that much

And the 6650 cat shouldn’t cost thst much

XFX Speedster SWFT309 AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT CORE Gaming Graphics Card with 12GB GDDR6 HDMI 3xDP, AMD RDNA 2 RX-67XTYJFDV https://a.co/d/9WL4Ov3

Here is a way better gpu for less

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BLQXDq

[fossil cedar]

If you look up top it's amazon.ca

[south cliff]

Well

My bad

Well 340 for a 6650xt is still pretty bar

[coral scroll]

is this any good

[fossil cedar]

You can't direct translate prices

[fossil cedar]

No, what's your budget and can you buy from other places other than Amazon?

[coral scroll]

my budget is 1.5k

what about this?

[fossil cedar]

Much better, hold on

@coral scroll need wifi?

[coral scroll]

wdym?

[fossil cedar]

Do you need the pc to have wifi or will you be using ethernet?

Pcs don't come with wifi by default

[coral scroll]

pc to have wifi

would be easier

why?

i think it does

right?

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

I'm making a better list just 1 sec

[coral scroll]

kk

[frigid night]

It's been longer than 1 sec.

[fossil cedar]

@coral scroll https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KRcJcb

[fossil cedar]

Ik detchie me rn 😔

[coral scroll]

does newegg deliver?

and do they have a store?

[fossil cedar]

Deliver

[coral scroll]

do they not have a store

[fossil cedar]

Nope

Neither does amazon tho lol

[coral scroll]

u sure this all works?

[wide sparrow]

He's not a techie for nothing

[coral scroll]

it isnt compatible

[wide sparrow]

And yes all the parts are compatible

[fossil cedar]

It is

[south cliff]

It is

[wide sparrow]

You need to do a BIOS update

[fossil cedar]

MAYBE

[fossil cedar]

Probably not

[coral scroll]

do these all work toggether tho

bc i would rather do amazon

[fossil cedar]

The list i sent is better but yes

Why?

[coral scroll]

plus its not me paying

im 13

[south cliff]

Your in Newegg discord

[coral scroll]

so my dads helping me

[fossil cedar]

There's no reason to unless you have money on Amazon

If you want to spend less you can do that too and still do better

[coral scroll]

wait what

do what?

which one

[fossil cedar]

Like either the list i sent or i can modify that list and you can get better perf for the same money or save more money and same perf

[coral scroll]

perf?

so but is my stuff fine?

[fossil cedar]

Performance

[fossil cedar]

Fine but poorly priced

[fossil cedar]

Same price, better perf
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dbm6JM
Same perf, better price
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KMzqjZ
Full budget:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KRcJcb

[coral scroll]

but i wanna use amazon so i can just do one order and make it easier

[south cliff]

Why

[paper summit]

Its not that complicated

And haven't like 3 people made you parts lists by now

[coral scroll]

wow

ok

im tryna see the best that i can get

whatever

[south cliff]

We are helping you

Get the second link that pato sent

Same price and better performance

I mean same performance better price

[cyan ravine]

I think we're in the double digits for lists now

[paper summit]

LMAO

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-26450094

/j

[dusty cedar]

i love mine and temps arent bad in it like a lot of people with 0 experience having one likes to say it does.

back when i was asking about it before i bought it, and that wasn't even a full 2 months ago, people were trying to tell me my gpu would always be thermal throttling in it because it has "bad airflow" and that simply isnt true

it has tons of air flow in it.

the only part in it that blows any amount of hot air out of it is actually not even hot, its just warm, is from my radiator. its constantly pushing fresh cold air through the case. 0 problems cooling at all. and tbh i wouldn't be worried putting a 4090 in it with the glass panel still on if you change the 2 120mm fans in the bottom out and swap them with 140mm fans

[south cliff]

Is the Lian Li lancool 3 the best case?

[mossy venture]

It's good, I wouldn't really consider a singular case the best case overall

[potent portal]

Whoever said that probably didn't realize there's bottom fans that flow directly over the GPU since you can't see them at a glance

[obsidian wolf]

Thanks

[dusty cedar]

idr who said it but even just glancing over the specs real quick and never seeing it in person or on videos beforehand i knew there were 2 120mm fans that came with the case under the gpu riser. the airflow vents on the bottom of the case aren't there for no reason afterall if you were just looking at pictures and not reading the description or looking at case specs.

my gpu fans hardly ever kick on unless i'm running any visually demanding games on ultra settings or higher.

[frigid night]

I wonder if they were thinking of the hyte y40 when they said you would get bad temps. Because for sure that y40 sucks

[dusty cedar]

idk. isnt the 40 newer than the 60?

[frigid night]

Yeah, but they cut a lot of corners and it has super bad thermals.

https://youtu.be/OtjOFczXQfQ

[dusty cedar]

idk. i generally dont go by hear say on bad reviews from people who don't own the product. the same goes for people on youtube. i'd rather see for myself.

thats a good example of what i wouldn't watch.

[potent portal]

Cut some corners and added another lol

No more cool side glass thing, it's plain glass now

[frigid night]

Uhm. They own the case and do benchmarks and testing of the case.

[dusty cedar]

they got a case for a 1 day review load testing everything to max settings for a youtube video and are deeming it bad........ that's not exactly a real review of a product being used in everyday situations

[frigid night]

I mean. It's not hearsay when they create facts by physically testing the case and showing results.

[potent portal]

Their benchmarks are more reliable than random people saying "idk works for me"

[potent portal]

You clearly didn't watch it because that's not what they did at all

[dusty cedar]

you're right. i didn't

[potent portal]

So how can you judge content you haven't seen? Just like how can you judge a case you haven't touched?

[dusty cedar]

i dont judge things i don't own. and i certainly wouldnt rent a product for a 1 day review and return it after putting unrealistic testing scenarios on it

[frigid night]

They OWN the case

They don't rent lol

[dusty cedar]

whos really gonna sit there running their pc benchtesting it 24/7

[frigid night]

And they don't just do unrealistic scenarios.

[stoic island]

Gamers Nexus

They don't just run one test and call it a day

[dusty cedar]

clearly. lmao

[stoic island]

They run multiple tests multiple times

As seen in the video

[frigid night]

There are tons of people who do

[potent portal]

The point of the piece wasn't just a "worst case scenario" test, they do real testing with real in game benchmarks too

[frigid night]

There is a reason Gamers Nexus (Steve) is highly regarded for his video reviews.

[potent portal]

Besides, arguing that the Y40 might be good is like saying the H510 elite might be good because someone ran a R3 4100 and 1650 ti in it and it didn't throttle

The timestamps alone tell you they do way more than just worst case testing

[dusty cedar]

i was actually just looking at the time stamps of that video. yall say he does "real world" testing

dude has a 4090 and a 4070ti in it. what's real world about cards the majority cant afford

[potent portal]

4070 ti is totally valid for this lmao

[dusty cedar]

im just sayin

cards the majority of people cant afford

[potent portal]

No you're just mad he didn't test with your specific hardware in mind

[dusty cedar]

im not mad at all

i dont watch youtubers

they're paid shills

if they werent they wouldnt be doin it

[potent portal]

These guys actually buy their own stuff off the shelf 99% of the time

The only time they get "free" stuff is pre-launch of CPUs in general

[dusty cedar]

everything they get is free. its always paid for by other people so they have a video to make

if i gave you 2 grand and said hey go buy this and make a video on it and you did, did you buy it?

[potent portal]

They don't take those deals

They're aware how scummy that is. Yes there's some that do, but there's several that don't.

[dusty cedar]

Sponsor: Linode Cloud Computing by Akamai

he was paid by his sponsor lol

[vague oracle]

Doesn’t mean all do

[potent portal]

And the sponsor has no say in what the content is

[dusty cedar]

they still pay for it though

[potent portal]

There's been awkward moments where brands have sponsored positive reviews of their competition lol

[dusty cedar]

theres brands that say to people here's our product, you can have it for free if you do a review on it and you can review it with no limits

all i'm sayin and have been is i don't trust paid shills on youtube

[viral ore]

thats fair

[potent portal]

Yes, and there's people that take those deals, and there's some that don't

[viral ore]

but gamers nexus is not one of those people

[potent portal]

Linus on the other hand...

[viral ore]

they simply dont do what you are accusing them of

[dusty cedar]

i never said he was. i was sayin in this instance falcie said he didn't get paid and there is a direct link to his sponsor of the video in the discription

[viral ore]

sounds like you misunderstood then

[formal girder]

Woop woop

[potent portal]

He didn't get paid in a way that could influence the content at all

[vague oracle]

The sponsor has nothing to do with Hyte

It’s like those tech YouTubers that are sponsored by ridge wallet lmao

[dusty cedar]

correct. but i think theres a misunderstanding on what i was talking about. he said they have to buy their products 99% of the time and nothing is free. everything is free because they use sponsor money to buy the products they review. its the same as if i said heres 2k go spend it on something and review it

none of that money is out of his pocket

[potent portal]

What does that have to do with the content though

It's his job ofc he wants to be paid

[viral ore]

sponsor money is their main source of income. they are a business selling ad space.

[dusty cedar]

the content of that particular video was under non realistic testing like yall were saying. idk to many people rushing out to go buy a 4090 and put it in a small case do you? or even spend almost the same amount for a 4070ti. come on man.

[potent portal]

Blender is non-realistic apparently

[dusty cedar]

its weird trying to put words in peoples mouth when the text is right there for all to see

[viral ore]

imma guess you didnt watch the entire vid and leave it at that

[vague oracle]

Ehh, I know a good amount of people that have 40 series cards at this point…

[formal girder]

Blender can vary due to varieties of settings and methods but I wouldn't say is unrealistic as it's more of a threshold

[vague oracle]

Not that unreachable for someone with a decent job

[vague oracle]

And sponsor money doesn’t make things free?

They are getting paid by the sponsor, they choose to use that money to buy parts to review on their channel

Meaning it’s coming out of their pocket

[potent portal]

Yeah that's a really weird thing to say. Commercials on TV shows don't make the shows free.

[vague oracle]

Think of the sponsor like an employer paying you to do your job

[dusty cedar]

it used to. at one point in time you had the option to watch free tv with ads or pay a cable company to watch tv with no ads. kinda like how i pay for youtube premium and am still forced to see these forced sponsorship ads thats in the video and not an overlay before it starts.

[potent portal]

No I mean the production of the show

[dusty cedar]

i have 0 respect for youtube shills and i take anything they say with a grain of rice

"and now a word from our spon" is as far as a view gets from me

[potent portal]

Which is why I find it odd that you're judging them so hard when you don't even know what's going on

[dusty cedar]

if that video had the secret to winning the lottery with a 100% success rate, i still would not watch it if they did that.

[potent portal]

Well yeah that would be an obvious scam lol

[dusty cedar]

if it was legit, i wouldn't

[potent portal]

Like when LTT got hacked and turned into a crypto scam

[dusty cedar]

i would be poor before i watch a video that has a forced ad. i am literally paying google to not watch them and these shills shove it down your throat

[potent portal]

I don't think shill means what you think it means

[obsidian wigeon]

can you watch the entire video before coming to a conclusion

ad is ad, it doesn't relate to the content

[potent portal]

Also you literally can't go anywhere on the internet without ads of some kind

[dusty cedar]

it means exactly what i think it means

shill

2 of 2
noun
1
a
: one who acts as a decoy (as for a pitchman or gambler)
b
: one who makes a sales pitch or serves as a promoter

[obsidian wigeon]

bruh

tell me straight, are you upset because a product you have bought receives an unfavorable review?

[flint sapphire]

onyx is out here shilling 1080p 27 inch displays smh

[obsidian wigeon]

I'm not trying to bash you, but to me it sounds like it is the case

[dusty cedar]

i didnt buy a y40 tf? lol

[potent portal]

Selling an ad spot doesn't mean they're promoting it, just like Fox selling ad space doesn't affiliate them with Amazon

[obsidian wigeon]

Well then how did a case review escalate into this

If you don't agree with something you don't gotta find things to nitpick about

[dusty cedar]

you could always read from the start. all i been sayin this whole time is that i don't take reviews from people about products they dont own seriorsly and everyone mad i didnt watch a shills video about said product.

[flint sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-picard-star-trek-the-next-generation-disappointed-gif-23456183

[obsidian wigeon]

I'm confused

A valid, thoroughly tested and researched review is suddenly invalid because it's got an ad in it?

[potent portal]

No it's invalid because they used a 4070 ti to test it

Honestly I've lost track of the complaints and responses unanswered at this point

[obsidian wigeon]

A case is a case, it has to be up to standards even with extreme cases where a consumer, but high-end gpu could be used reliably and efficiently

[dusty cedar]

see, this is where it gets confusing. falcie said as well as someone else that they do real world testing and not just worst case scenarios. but in the video hes using 1500 and 2k dollar graphics cards for "real world" testing. not many people racing to go buy those. so what makes them "real world"

[obsidian wigeon]

I don't see it being problematic for anything less anyway

[potent portal]

The 4070 ti is $800 tho, where are you seeing it for 2k

And it's a very common card right now

[obsidian wigeon]

Then what's the point of reviewing a high end product at all if "no one" uses it

Let's stop reviewing the cpus and stuff

[potent portal]

Yes nothing but midrange and lower matters now

[frigid night]

Maybe at this point.. all that can be said is..

[obsidian wigeon]

A real world scenario simply means using actual hardware, not running a simulation

[frigid night]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-harder-cope-sir-cope-sir-american-psycho-gif-26276799

[obsidian wigeon]

I feel words have lost meaning here lel

[potent portal]

The tests are controlled so the results are comparable across multiple cases

[dusty cedar]

4070ti high end price is 1500. low end 900.

4090 low end price is 1500 and the high end is 2500

[obsidian wigeon]

wut

At worst an overpriced 4070ti goes for 800-900

[potent portal]

Yeah someone probably won't be using a 4090 in a small case, but it's still valid data to compare against other cases

[obsidian grove]

Hiya!

[obsidian wigeon]

^

Since it's been set in stone

[dusty cedar]

hows it valid if its not comparable?

[obsidian wigeon]

It is comparable

They did the same thing to other cases

[regal shard]

Imagine spending 2500 on a gpu to play video games

[stoic island]

Comparable to other gn tests

[potent portal]

.

[stoic island]

They re-run tests for older cases for data with newer hardware to put them on the chart too

[obsidian wigeon]

rn a 4090 is like 1600-1700

also ya gn has an entire warehouse

where they keep all the stuff

[stoic island]

Anyways the review is built to last, it's like how an older review with a 2080ti is comparable to mid range today

[potent portal]

What idiot would spend $1500 on a 4070 ti anyway, when you can literally buy a 4090 for that

[dusty cedar]

they are comparing cases not cards. obviously newer cards are going to preform better than old ones

[formal girder]

General thermals

[potent portal]

The GPU performance isn't what's being tested though

[dusty cedar]

newer cards are also going to use more power than older ones too

which means more heat

[potent portal]

Right, which makes case reviews matter more than they used to

[obsidian wigeon]

More heat means better cases are needed

GPUs are literal bricks nowadays

1070ti back in 2017 was considered large gpu

But now 3070ti is "normal"

Or 4070ti in that matter

The upcoming 4070 will be large too

[dusty cedar]

yay we can start to agree on something. now, if you have a sufficient cooling system in your case then why does the case matter when even on the website it says that case in particular is designed for water cooling, but you can use other means as well

[obsidian wigeon]

The design matters tho

No amount of fans will fix a bad case

[potent portal]

Airflow patterns affect how well the GPU is able to use it's giant cooling system

Stagnant air continues to heat up

[obsidian wigeon]

Some cases are also meant to be used for other types of cooling

So they might not do air very well

[potent portal]

Right, like how the Torrent is meant for air or custom loop, but doesn't do AIO very well

[obsidian grove]

Oh just wondering what’s this discussion about?

[obsidian wigeon]

Gotta buy cases that fits your preference and usage

[potent portal]

PC case reviews in general

[dusty cedar]

idr. the hyte y40 i think at this point. its all over the place

[obsidian wigeon]

For most an air optimized case is very good

[obsidian grove]

Ah

I tend to forget to do the same research on cases

[formal girder]

I do and don't regret the 5000D when I first bought it just the sheer size of the case is my only regret but great airflow and good for aios and custom loops

[obsidian grove]

As the other components

[potent portal]

At least with cases you can follow a couple general guidelines and it'll be fine, like no glass front so it has decent airflow

[dusty cedar]

or if it does then it needs to be able to get the fresh air from somewhere else

[formal girder]

Now the new budget deepcool cases I kinda like

[dusty cedar]

to expand on this though. that's like going out and buying the worlds fastest car and the manufacturer said, we designed this specifically for track racing, but you can also take it on the streets. and then getting mad when you get pulled over. whos out there doing that

[potent portal]

The people that buy those cars don't give a damn about tickets, they just pay them

[vague oracle]

^

[dusty cedar]

ok so exactly. they cant be mad about it or act surprised. just like people cant say a whole case is bad on thermals when it was designed for liquid cooling and not air

[potent portal]

Then when they get too many points on their record and their license is suspended they just pay someone else to drive it

[dusty cedar]

it makes no sense to compare it

[formal mica]

https://newegg.io/e497cfe I just wanted to see if there were any better deals or parts I should get instead of what I have here. Also to see if everything is compatible?

[potent portal]

In this case it can make sense because not everyone will know that the case is meant for a specific set of cooling devices

[potent portal]

Use https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ to find better deals elsewhere, it also has a compatibility filter

[formal mica]

ok thx

[dusty cedar]

ok i can see your point there. it doesn't exactly specify that on their website directly either.

[potent portal]

Here got you upgraded to DDR5 by making a few changes https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KwKYk9

[dusty cedar]

but on the same merit you can just look at it and see that it has no direct airflow and should probably start to assume air is an option but it is built for liquid cooling

[potent portal]

That runs on the assumption that people know what to look for

[south cliff]

i recommended my friend a 13400f and he has a 9400f right now is it a good recommendation?he really only plays fortnite and valorant

[potent portal]

Yeah that would be a good upgrade

[formal mica]

thx so much

[potent portal]

You can stick with the DDR4 in that case too to save money

[south cliff]

he said his uncle said it wasn't the best option for him

the 13400f

[potent portal]

On what grounds? Budget concerns? Ease of install?

[south cliff]

i dont even know he just said it wasnt a good recommendation and i was going to put it together for him so install isnt a problem

just wondering if i was wrong

also what would be a good matx motherboard for it

[potent portal]

Weird, that's a good CPU. Maybe a 12600k would be more palatable? It's basically the same but K so unlocked

[south cliff]

idk i think he maybe thinking ryzen

he said he was going to ask him what he recommends

[potent portal]

B650 is getting more affordable so a 7600X could be on the table, but then you'd need a memory upgrade too

[south cliff]

yeah he already has ram

ddr4

[formal mica]

How important is the brand for a power supply?

[potent portal]

Every brand has good and bad models

[formal mica]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-850-gt-220-gt-0850-y1-850w/p/N82E16817438199?Item=9SIBKERJR84712

this one any good would save me 25 bucks

[potent portal]

GT is B tier so you could probably get away with it

The one I recommended was A tier

[formal mica]

Ok so I should just cough a little more for saftey gotcha

[potent portal]

Based on this list btw, great source https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

The last thing you want is to be in the middle of a game in an intense match, and you hear a click and it shuts off because the GPU power spiked and drained the PSU.

[formal mica]

Whats a good case in your opinon i kinda just picked one at random

[potent portal]

That G360A is actually one of our top recommended

Great midrange budget case plus RGB

[formal mica]

ok awesome Could you recommend me a monitor that would not bottleneck with gpu

[potent portal]

This one is a fantastic price right now https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012015

[formal mica]

Im curious I see alot of monitors on amazon that have 144 hz for only 100 or so dollars are those any good?

https://www.amazon.com/KOORUI-FreeSyncTM-Compatible-Ultra-Thin-24E4/dp/B09TTDRXNS/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3KSSG0BKGJOMD&keywords=Monitors+144hz&qid=1680644623&s=electronics&sprefix=monitors+144h%2Celectronics%2C157&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&smid=AHJQFGZ6OQA8E&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzQU4xU0MzTjdOODlBJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzQ2NzI4M0lWTDdUQzJJWlFYWSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjE3NDcxMTlPWDlVNTcwNjU4TyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= like this one?

[potent portal]

They're probably 1080p and not good ones at that

1080p wouldn't use the full power of the GPU

[formal mica]

You know what sucks is that my parents bought me two 32 inch samsung monitors 60 hz in like 2016 now it seems like and 32 inch cost a arm and a leg

[potent portal]

This one's pretty good, I've seen better for the price but not today. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HYZ9TW/hp-x32-315-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-2v7v2aaaba

[formal mica]

Rough

wanted build to be under 2k

[potent portal]

Drop the CPU down to a 12600k

Performance at 1440p will be nearly identical

[formal mica]

30 dollar difference?

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tk8bt6/intel-core-i5-12600kf-37-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8071512600kf

[formal mica]

might just wait a bit to buy monitor

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824011451?Item=N82E16824011451&cm_sp=Dailydeal_SS-_-24-011-451-_-04042023 might have to buy today lmao

[potent portal]

I'd avoid Acer tbh, their model names are intentionally misleading. Good ones are one letter off of awful ones, and I don't see any reviews of that specific model.

[formal mica]

4 reviews

Oof

[formal mica]

whats your opinon 7900xt or 4070ti

[south cliff]

7900xt

[formal mica]

Whats some good brands I should look out for

[potent portal]

Both are very similar and similar in price, but I'd go 7900 XT for the extra VRAM. It'll age better.

[formal mica]

yea the whole reason for this build is that it will last me for years to come unless a drive fails

[potent portal]

Every brand has good and bad so it depends on the specific models

[formal mica]

Whys everything so difficult for monitors lol;

[potent portal]

That's the way they like it

If they make it difficult enough people give up and buy the overpriced crap

[formal mica]

Thats what I dont want lmao im on a budget

https://newegg.io/1c750e4 Can you rate this build out of 10 for the future?

[potent portal]

Probably a 9. Anything better would cost more money.

[manic cloak]

Just a question to throw out there but let's say you have the Adrenalin AMD Software on your PC but remove the graphics card, would the software still boot?

cause rn i'm trying to pinpoint the reason why Adrenalin keeps giving me the pa-300 issue

[potent portal]

There's always DDU for that

[stoic island]

If you boot to windows with Intel igpu, the software would probably open, but tell you it doesn't detect a compatible GPU

[potent portal]

?ddu

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[manic cloak]

done it, you wanna hear the full story?

[stoic island]

Ddu always good though

[potent portal]

I believe you that's ok lol

[manic cloak]

I think you wanna hear the full story 😈

[potent portal]

If you have the iGPU to run with you can test things with that

[manic cloak]

I do but I don't wanna uninstall and reinstall my card before I send it off to MSI for repairs.

i'm having issues with it since 3/24 when I updated the drivers on it to the latest where it started the off and on pa-300 issue, some days it'd pop up with graphics not working and some days it would just run without issues. I've DDU'd aswell as AMD Installation thingy for drivers 3 times now, going to older and newest versions before reinstalling my whole system and updating it to windows 11 which did fix it for a few days until now.

i've called AMD and MSI, they told me it might be a hardware issue cause they see multiple livekernelevent errors and it shows the graphics card has downloaded Windows Basic Display Driver. but uh where i'm getting to with this is that I think my graphics card might be short circuiting or like, turning on and off even though it's plugged in

It somewhat makes sense, i'll have to find out if Adrenalin works without the GPU in but if it doesn't it kinda explains why it isn't working, how my Task Manager can't recognize my GPU, along with the system only detecting Windows Display Driver.

[south cliff]

change the bios or underclock your gpu

like gpu bios

[manic cloak]

hope you wouldn’t mind but how could i do that if my gpu isn’t even being detected by my system? 😭

do I go to bios?

[south cliff]

no

does it show in task manager

[manic cloak]

nope.

[south cliff]

device manager

[manic cloak]

let me check

[south cliff]

under display adapters

[manic cloak]

it's there but it has a hazard sign on it @south cliff

[south cliff]

can you right click on it

[manic cloak]

uninstall device, disable device, update drivers.

[south cliff]

also is there a diffrent on like intel

[manic cloak]

properties and hardware changes

[south cliff]

graphics

[manic cloak]

?

wait hold on

[south cliff]

in the display adapters how many are ther

[manic cloak]

I don't think this is normal

[south cliff]

show

[south cliff]

your good

[manic cloak]

ah

[south cliff]

but try disable the device

[manic cloak]

disabled

what now?

[south cliff]

and reable it

[manic cloak]

im back.

you are a god damn wizard

[south cliff]

it show up

[manic cloak]

it flashed the screen, and I just booted adrenanlin

it's working 😭

[south cliff]

task manager

im him

[manic cloak]

task manager detects it.

that doesn't make any sense on why it's happening though

[south cliff]

yup all it has was a hardware problem

[manic cloak]

but thank you

[south cliff]

windows being stupid

but your welcome saved you time sending it back

[manic cloak]

sweet.

though my question is, what's causing the problem then?

if it isn't the card

[south cliff]

windows

was just not detecting it

put thru stress test

[manic cloak]

3d bench mark?

[south cliff]

furmark

is quicker

[manic cloak]

alr

I should probably update my bios too

[south cliff]

ehh you dont have to

but i honestly would tbh

[manic cloak]

ya, i'm still stuck on the 11/30 ver

[south cliff]

just incase a new thing came out for your cpu

[manic cloak]

alr

and for furmark

should I preset on 1080?

[south cliff]

yeah thats fine

[south cliff]

looks good and temps are good

and no crash?

and nothing weird

[manic cloak]

nope.

[south cliff]

well your all good then

[manic cloak]

It ran fine, 98% usage

[south cliff]

update bios

[manic cloak]

sweet. thanks!

[south cliff]

and enable exp

[manic cloak]

xmp is already

[south cliff]

well when you update bios it reset setting

[manic cloak]

oh.

[south cliff]

just warning you

to do so

[manic cloak]

so uh great question, how do I update bios exactly with the newest version in my folder?

[south cliff]

do you have a usb

[manic cloak]

I do.

[south cliff]

what motherboard do ytou have

[manic cloak]

z690 tuf gaming wifi

[south cliff]

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-z690-plus-wifi-d4/

go here

and top right near review is says support click on it

[manic cloak]

alr I figured it out. thanks again!

[south cliff]

alright your welcome remember don't turn off the pc when doing the bios update

[low path]

I need a gaming laptop from Newegg budget 900$

For my nephew

[potent portal]

You'll want to install your chipset drivers while you're in that support page, that's what device manager was saying you were missing

[obsidian wolf]

https://www.newegg.com/black-msi-gf-series-gf63-thin-11uc-1245-gaming/p/N82E16834156433?Item=N82E16834156433&Description=gaming Laptop&cm_re=gaming_Laptop-_-34-156-433-_-Product'

Honestly, I feel this is the best option in that price range

but tbh for 999 there's one with the 4050 (I do now know how better the 4050 is, but as a 3050 ti owner, is not bad but sometimes you wish you could get more and the more we go into the future games will keep getting harder and harder to run.

[south cliff]

bro

4050 is going to be terrible

oh my bad

thought you meant desktop gpu

[potent portal]

GF63 was decent iirc

[obsidian wolf]

i owned the katana

Outside of overheating issues that

came with the computer itself that I had to fix down the line myself

No complaints

But again for the price I would go with that far less than how much it costed my katana for almost the same specs outside of the 3050 being the non ti one

[manic cloak]

is that's what is causing my issue?

I feel like that's what you're talking about

[south cliff]

yeah it could be the problem

[potent portal]

Chipset drivers affect core system components mostly, but with them missing you won't be able to use RGB software or certain security features

[coarse coral]

my lan driver says the same thing being updated but armoury crate is wrong.

[analog hearth]

I hate Armoury Crate

be Asus
make amazing hardware
make the absolute worst commercial software

[formal mica]

@potent portal https://www.newegg.com/acer-xv271-zbmiiprx-27-full-hd/p/0JC-000P-00KP2?Item=0JC-000P-00KP2&cm_sp=newegglives-_-newegglive-694-_-product-0JC-000P-00KP2 is this monitor worth it or no

[weary galleon]

For that price I would look for a 1440p144hz

unless you exclusively play esports titles at a high level and want 280hz

[south cliff]

27 in h 1080p is alright but 1440p would be alot better

[formal mica]

Trying to find me a good monitor thats not going to cost 300 dollars with this build https://newegg.io/1c750e4

[weary galleon]

with a 7900xt I would definitely get a 1440p panel, maybe 4k

[formal mica]

I dont wanna go over 2k price for my build

Or should I just stick with the monitors I have now https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/curved/samsung-32-curved-led-monitor-lc32f391fwnxza/ i have two of these

[weary galleon]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012015?
https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-tuf-gaming-vg27bq-90lm04z0-b013b0-27/p/N82E16824236991?

[weary galleon]

those are 1080p 60hz, no point in buying a 7900xt and using those

[formal mica]

I mean

might use them till I can afford better monitor lol

Its going to be very cursed

[weary galleon]

ditch the HDD, get a better SSD (maybe 2Tb), get a slightly cheaper PSU and maybe ram

oh the ram is ddr5 maybe that's a fine price then

i haven't kept up on ddr5 pricing

[formal mica]

but storage lmao

What ssd should I get then

[weary galleon]

maybe one of these
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/adata-xpg-gammix-s70-blade-2tb-internal-ssd-pcie-gen-4-x4-with-heatsink-for-ps5/6486460.p?skuId=6486460
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BJKWSDN8/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=ox_sc_act_image_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

[formal mica]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824011451?Item=N82E16824011451&cm_sp=Dailydeal_SS-_-24-011-451-_-04042023 whats your opinon on this monitor

[potent portal]

If it's gen 4 you want this is all anyone really needs https://www.newegg.com/solidigm-2tb-p41-plus/p/N82E16820329022

[formal mica]

thats a nice deal

Does newegg do and summer sales

[manic cloak]

well I downloaded all of them lol

[formal mica]

is it fixed?

[manic cloak]

but I have armory crate to turn off the RGB on my mobo when it goes to sleep

same thing for controlling my RGB which I barely touch

but otherwise I never use it

[formal mica]

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/curved/samsung-32-curved-led-monitor-lc32f391fwnxza/ how much you think I can get out of these

[potent portal]

Like if you sold them?

[formal mica]

yes]

[potent portal]

It's hard to pin a number to it but you could probably do $125 each

List it at $150 and take an offer around there

[fleet heron]

Hey guys so recently I've been having problems with my old laptop and I need to use my beefier "gaming" laptop for school but the fans are obnoxiously loud and Idk how to make them quieter.

Do you guys think a factory reset could lower the rpm of the fans

[potent portal]

When's the last time you cleaned out the fan vents

You can also undervolt with throttlestop to reduce the temps and fan speeds

[fleet heron]

I mean from the outside the vents look clean

[fleet heron]

Hmm is there anything else I could do?

[potent portal]

That's like saying "my hands look clean" after using the toilet

[fleet heron]

Lmfao yea ig but I would die If I broke this laptop

Ima go clean ig

Wait I gotta open up the laptop!?

Woah thus computer got a 1650 I didn't even know

[potent portal]

No you don't need to open it, you can just blow a can of air or handheld compressor through the vents

[fleet heron]

Mhm I did

The ssds at 100%

Is that why?

It goes from 100 down to like 7

[potent portal]

What app is using it?

[fleet heron]

Uhh let me see

How do I check lol

Wait found it

The anti malware

That

[obsidian wolf]

I can vouch

No complaints

[potent portal]

Ok so it was running a virus scan, normal

[obsidian wolf]

fast and plenty space

[fleet heron]

Ah

The heat the laptop produces compared to my desktop is concerning

[potent portal]

Laptops may draw less power but the heat is condensed into a smaller area

What might help is disabling all your startup items so there's less active for it to scan

That'll stop any background tasks too which will help temps

[obsidian wolf]

Also if laptop is old

probably the thermal compound has dry up

[fleet heron]

Ah ok

[potent portal]

That is another possibility yes

[fleet heron]

I'll definitely do that

[obsidian wolf]

That happened with mine, be known that if you still have a warranty and you remove the backplate that warranty is voided from there on

[fleet heron]

Ah no it's not that old

It's about 3 years old

[obsidian wolf]

Mine was only 2 years old

I fixed it the other day

[fleet heron]

Ah

[potent portal]

Stock paste is usually crappy putty instead of paste

[obsidian wolf]

The process was forward as it can be scary, but if I can do it I personally believe anyone can do it

[fleet heron]

Lmao I mean it's worked for now

[obsidian wolf]

What company is your laptop

And what's the idle temp?

[fleet heron]

Leveno

Uhhh the mouspad suddenly doesn't work

Oh god

[obsidian wolf]

just use fn + mouse activator and check if you disable it by mistake

[fleet heron]

Mouse activator?

[obsidian wolf]

There's a F command, on top of your keyboard in almost every laptop that activates and deactivates the mouse, maybe you click it by mistake

In my laptop is FN F4

[fleet heron]

Wow I didn't know that was a thing yup its fixed lol

I'm used to a 60% and being very restricted

[obsidian wolf]

Got yah, also if your laptop temp is over 86 while idling them probably the thermal paste is the issue

80 even I would say

If Idling

[fleet heron]

Ah let me check

[obsidian wolf]

If gaming is normal for it to be in the 70's and 80's territories, 94 in mine even

But if idling them yeah, you could try replacing the thermal paste and trust me it make wonders

[fleet heron]

Where can I check ?

[obsidian wolf]

Give a min

[jagged ember]

Get hwinfo64

Nice way to see your sensor data

https://www.fosshub.com/HWiNFO.html?dwl=hwi_742.exe

Check sensor only after you install it

[fleet heron]

I'm way to lazy to lma9

But it should be that hot

[jagged ember]

Well, can't solve your thermal issues

[fleet heron]

Shouldn't *

I'll download it tomorrow

[potent portal]

Even changing out for good paste the day you buy it improves thermals

[obsidian wolf]

Funny enough

had this friend from Netherlands who bought me the paste

because he thought that my laptop couldn't be so ass and thermal throttling itself down, I can legit said that I had a bomb in my legs everyday

When I opened that stuff, the thermal paste was legit dry, dry, dry!!!

[potent portal]

It was probably that putty I mentioned

[obsidian wolf]

yep

something like that

After I fixed it and cleaned the laptop\

idle temps where at most 40 something

Remember this day I saw a 28 and I was flabbergasted, I was already accustomed to see it in 94 all the time

[fleet heron]

Are hand wipes harmful for cleaning the keyboard?

Like the smelly ones

[obsidian wolf]

Just get alcohol swabs

[potent portal]

The keys? Not harmful as long as there's no acetone

Acetone will eat plastic

[fleet heron]

Ah kk

Thanks

I'll try alcohol swabs

Well I'll just put alcohol on a q tip

[obsidian wolf]

that works

I just prefer the swabs

[potent portal]

Less chance of spills with swabs but q-tip works

[fleet heron]

Yea I just don't have any

[potent portal]

A shocking amount of people don't even have basic supplies like alcohol so you've got an advantage already

[obsidian wolf]

My friend be like

💀

[formal mica]

How do I go from this https://newegg.io/cf4f0a7 to this https://newegg.io/1c750e4 from joining this discord lmao

[obsidian wolf]

Simple Usability > Brand

[potent portal]

You had a halfway decent list to start with so there was only a few adjustments to make really. I'm just glad you listened to suggestions.

[cyan ravine]

And if you wanted to save a bit more, there's shopping from multiple stores

[formal mica]

I mean first time building one so I dont know all the prices yet so kinda just relying on the info i get

[fleet heron]

Welp I just spilt alcohol everywhere no clean keyboard for me :(((

[potent portal]

Oof

[formal mica]

what else could I get cheaper

your boy wants to get this under 2k

[cyan ravine]

If I put that same list into pcpartpicker it'll likely show a solid discount on a few more things

[potent portal]

Not much actually https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kp6TQ6

[obsidian wolf]

Do you have a micro?

[formal mica]

so really the only way to get this cheaper is cheaper psu cpu or monitor

[potent portal]

You could get a cheaper case if you really wanted and save $40

[obsidian wolf]

He could get deals on mobo, ram and cpu

[formal mica]

what case?

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7fn8TW/cougar-mx330-g-air-atx-mid-tower-case-mx330-g-air

[cyan ravine]

You can knock more off

Give me a few minutes

[potent portal]

Mobo is the cheapest Z chipset, memory could save $20 by dropping to 5200 but performance will be hurt, B tier PSU would technically work still and save $30

And that monitor is still excellent

[south cliff]

i could get this it most likely has broken motherboard or cpu https://www.ebay.com/itm/285213231872?hash=item4268088b00:g:UZ0AAOSwSsdkJy4N&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4EBvCjfytkwe2muaHZeVgBiYJE7s%2FTQP%2BsRGHX%2B3zz8XQj2Lp3eHlkB7zLCxMqxksEb%2FljFB1hTR5bVCTXHwawVFtzhy8FWvdsd4pX7MWfam%2BjRfctftJXE0ZnuT0zbPIodQimAztxuoHr8B0C88SOFbd%2FtM6Pr3tmoJMCr2EaGkjeno2BQcnYFPMqblCqnG%2FaY%2F%2FYUMjBms9AA4chh2KemaGocgtgGCoMdwMaNlrfP49ns%2BCPuV97zOc17I9V0xhSC9fgUWNrAfWUJ9R%2FrGhYRMIX2%2BDxyM2ITSLY4Eqziy|tkp%3ABk9SR9SbmvvpYQ

@potent portal

[obsidian wolf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vD9fQ6

[cyan ravine]

Under 2K
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fxpyY9

[formal mica]

in your opinon should I get the 6950xt or the 7900xt?

[potent portal]

If you're lucky it's just a loose cable too

[cyan ravine]

Def 7900xt

[formal mica]

ok

[south cliff]

yeah what would be the max i should pay?

[cyan ravine]

Between those two it's a no brainer imo

[flint sapphire]

[formal mica]

is there a summer sale going to happen soon?

[obsidian wolf]

The way I see it, is that he's trying to do the same as I did

[formal mica]

its also a 100$ difference tho

[obsidian wolf]

2000 monitor and everything build

If there's micro by

I would just go with the deal

and go up to an xtx if possible

[cyan ravine]

If you keep waiting monitors at this spec should go on sale for around $200-ish again

[potent portal]

HP X27Q is frequently on sale at $210

[south cliff]

could be a lose front panel connector

[cyan ravine]

If they have a micro center nearby yes

[obsidian wolf]

yeah

If not

yours

[cyan ravine]

Mhm

Nothing wrong with that list btw frank I like it

[obsidian wolf]

thx

[formal mica]

How do I get that lmao

[obsidian wolf]

Microcenter

[cyan ravine]

Micro center is a store

[obsidian wolf]

You have to go in person for the offer though

[cyan ravine]

They do in store deals that are kinda lit

[formal mica]

My parents are thinking about going to the one in columbus ohio this weekend

[cyan ravine]

Def go check it out then

[potent portal]

They have a deal where you buy a CPU and get freebies with it, usually memory and sometimes a board too

[cyan ravine]

See this list? @formal mica keep it handy when you go there

The mobo cpu and ram are a combo

[obsidian wolf]

If you are going you can get for 499$ the 7700x and for 599$ the 7900x depends on what you want

[cyan ravine]

Micro center only

[obsidian wolf]

also

that monitor

You can get a deal as well

in micro I believe for the same specs or even better

around 230ish

That's how I got mine

also the case

if you rebate with the people

[potent portal]

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx

[formal mica]

If we end up going lol I might be in here asking for advice

[obsidian wolf]

they'll get you a good case for 89.99

[cyan ravine]

Is fine

[obsidian wolf]

Bruah

I should've just done

my build around this time

-_-

[cyan ravine]

F

[potent portal]

Now this would be a killer deal too

[obsidian wolf]

50 bucks less them from what I spent

[obsidian wolf]

jejeje

Was looking at it when doing my friend build

[potent portal]

Better CPU, board, and free memory for the same price as 13600kf and Z790

[obsidian wolf]

btw felix

this is my final friend build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DCpCH2

[cyan ravine]

That's nicer if you can squeeze 100 more @formal mica

[potent portal]

It's actually $10 cheaper

[cyan ravine]

I like except the case, 4090 likely either will be choked or straight up won't fit

[obsidian wolf]

I check the specs

this version of the 4090

fits well

although if anything if someone find the H9 elite at a proper price before tomorrow night

let me know

[cyan ravine]

That's gonna be right against the glass 😶

[obsidian wolf]

Yeah big issue thermal wise

I saw specs

And it would run 60

[potent portal]

Sawzall the glass, ez fix

[cyan ravine]

Not just thermal, you can get vibrations too

[obsidian wolf]

........

Meh

He wants open display glass case

I was thinking of the Liam Li Dynamic Evo

[cyan ravine]

Phanteks NV7

The mother of all fishtanks

[obsidian wolf]

[cyan ravine]

The one 4090 that works well in a hyte y60 is the suprim liquid x

Ventus fits but you're adding a ventilation problem to an already poor performer

[obsidian wolf]

Meh

What can be done

No open display case out there

[cyan ravine]

Change case reee

O11 dynamic mini

110$

Maybe

Might be 140 again

[obsidian wolf]

Sure let me talk to him

[cyan ravine]

That's evo

[flint sapphire]

[formal mica]

I feel bad for people that dont know how to do this stuff

[flint sapphire]

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ByJmP6/lian-li-o11-dynamic-mini-atx-mid-tower-case-o11d-mini-x @obsidian wolf

[flint sapphire]

I’d pay for a threadripper install

[potent portal]

Amazon offers that too for some things. The contractor companies they hire SUCK.

[obsidian wolf]

Wouldn't the thermals in that bee

[cyan ravine]

With this psu frank
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q36qqs/cooler-master-v850-sfx-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-mpy-8501-sfhagv-us

[cyan ravine]

Better

[obsidian wolf]

to hard...

Also small case

[cyan ravine]

It's not a small case lol

[obsidian wolf]

He's legit buying me the ticket to go up to where he lives

[potent portal]

It's shorter but wider

[cyan ravine]

It's as big as the o11 evo but shorter

[obsidian wolf]

so I can arm the damn thing with him

I'll record every step and sent in here

[cyan ravine]

Btw how screwed up is it that sfx 850w cost 5$ more than atx

Lmfao

[paper summit]

I get some people don't know much about computers but cmon man use some common sense sometimes or like actually try and solve the problem before giving up. That's how I've learned most of what I know.

[cyan ravine]

We live in broken times

[obsidian wolf]

He already bought

the psu

[cyan ravine]

Oh ok

Then dynamic evo

[formal mica]

They dont have that power supply at the store is there another brand I should or should I order off of newegg

[cyan ravine]

What 850W do they have @formal mica

Or 750W if you go amd cpu

[obsidian wolf]

Had to wake him up

He already had the Hyte ordered

he cancelled it

[cyan ravine]

Yay

[obsidian wolf]

Meh do you think h9 will be back in stock before next month

because that's the case he wants

[cyan ravine]

Not sure

I'm fine with h9

As long as it's not like

200+

[obsidian wolf]

It is exactly like that right now

345

[cyan ravine]

Ah ew

[flint sapphire]

But what if he got a case with wood on it

[cyan ravine]

Evo is a far better buy

[obsidian wolf]

imported from Hong Kong

[obsidian wolf]

That's my case

He can not dare

go for the wood build

[cyan ravine]

Fractal north is good

[obsidian wolf]

that's my baby and only mine

[flint sapphire]

You have a fractal north?

[obsidian wolf]

I am buying it

[flint sapphire]

Ah okay phew

[obsidian wolf]

This weekend, waiting for paycheck

But felix knows

[flint sapphire]

Thought I was gunna get owned and not have it first

[obsidian wolf]

that since the start

All I wanted was that case

The suggestion was

[flint sapphire]

[potent portal]

I could build him one of these for $20

[flint sapphire]

[obsidian wolf]

to run my computer on top of my mobo box

until I got the case

[flint sapphire]

Mines coming in tomorrow

[obsidian wolf]

What color you got?

[flint sapphire]

White mesh

[obsidian wolf]

Mmm

Buy white

[cyan ravine]

@flint sapphire can you do me a favour

[obsidian wolf]

or wait so I can make

black

[flint sapphire]

[cyan ravine]

Tell me what ram clearance looks like with top rad

Like how bad

[flint sapphire]

I’ll do some measurements

[cyan ravine]

Thx man

I keep looking at it

[flint sapphire]

Got some fairly tall trident z’s

[cyan ravine]

I'm mainly interested in how far down it'll intrude over the ram

[potent portal]

If I were getting the north I'd probably get the side mesh one

[cyan ravine]

Ya I would if I did

I'd run quad rad

No joke

[flint sapphire]

Yeah I went for mesh to be as different as possible, it’s a cool little feature having a fan mounts over there

Probably not gunna use it but hey it’s there

[cyan ravine]

That fan mount is a free ram fan

Nothing yuck, actually clean

[flint sapphire]

Oh true

[cyan ravine]

More ram oc

[potent portal]

Or just be me and hang a 6k rpm 80mm fan using twist ties so it's blowing sort of near the memory

[cyan ravine]

I'm not gonna do that

[potent portal]

I'm janky like that

And I'm not going to change for anyone

[flint sapphire]

But what if you could make it super clean

[cyan ravine]

Ur not invited to my birthday

Jankboi