building-and-recc-chat

[mossy venture]

Nzxt cases are either overpriced or don't have good airflow

[obsidian wolf]

Initially the build was an h5

them we all here talk and laugh on how my stuff

was going to burn

[cyan ravine]

I missed this

[mossy venture]

As long as it's the flow version then whatever

[obsidian wolf]

But ended up getting the lian li lamcool 215 with the 2 280 front rgb mounted fans

[languid nimbus]

[obsidian wolf]

89.99$ btw

[mossy venture]

Pog

[cyan ravine]

215 so much better

[obsidian wolf]

initial price was like 110$

them I rebate with the guy

[mossy venture]

Miles better

[obsidian wolf]

and he told me we have it on deal

I was hell yeah

give me that

[cyan ravine]

Lol

How are you finding am5 btw

[obsidian wolf]

Nice

Not that many crashes

[cyan ravine]

That many

[obsidian wolf]

Imo all the crashes have been either due to Radeon software

or because I think I do need to upgrade the psu soon

[cyan ravine]

Hm ok

[obsidian wolf]

saw an evga deal for a 750 psu gold rated

for like 100$

[languid nimbus]

[cyan ravine]

Psu crashes will be random blue screens, computer clicks off then on, stuttering at the most random times

[obsidian wolf]

But ngl

Playing War Thunder in movie with ssa 4x and hdr

have been an experience

Cyberpunk with ray tracing high and ultra

and ultra graphics

[cyan ravine]

War thunder looks great maxed out

[obsidian wolf]

60 fps also has been crazy

But my fps for life is r6

those 300+ fps all the time

put me at an advantage on so many others men

[cyan ravine]

Lol you should have near 600 locked

[obsidian wolf]

I play with some settings

Because some stuff have to be low

[cyan ravine]

Ya

[obsidian wolf]

and others have to be a little bit high

[cyan ravine]

Fr

[obsidian wolf]

I play with shaiko settings but try a little bit with beaulo one

But imo i just founded my own

and I get 350

or 300 depending on the map

but again 1440p is just gorgeous on all levels

[cyan ravine]

300 is still great I just know that game maxes out easily

[obsidian wolf]

I mean the next upgrade should be the 4090

[cyan ravine]

Yes, but don't

[obsidian wolf]

But I am either going to wait or just sell the 6950

[cyan ravine]

[obsidian wolf]

and get the xtx

[cyan ravine]

Xtx is a better value buy imo

[obsidian wolf]

Hell yeah it is

1000$ for a 4080

what else can I ask

[cyan ravine]

Exactly

Take the proper steps with it too and it should be more stable than the 6950

[obsidian wolf]

Cry at me for being in that red team but I laugh at you for paying those overprice marks

[cyan ravine]

Ye I agree tbh

[obsidian wolf]

I will soon get a better psu

[cyan ravine]

We recommend AMD a lot here cos price/performance for gaming is just usually far better

Nvidia we tend to suggest used

[obsidian wolf]

looking at those prices to come down soon enough and I have the guaranteed on micro to get the money back in credit at the store for the one I have

so I can just add an extra 50$ and get a corsair 850 gold

[cyan ravine]

Rm850e stonk

Or superflower leadex iii gold

[languid nimbus]

Any idea what gpus from the pic alone? he doesn’t know

[obsidian wolf]

I only suggest Nvidia for example to my friend that wants to do the final besto build in an all white concept

[cyan ravine]

Omg, geforce

[obsidian wolf]

All I can say that build is old lmao :V

[cyan ravine]

Sli

[languid nimbus]

she dusty

[obsidian wolf]

Is that dual gpu_

[dusty cedar]

looks like something straight out of 1999

[obsidian wolf]

?

[languid nimbus]

yeah, sli

[dusty cedar]

newest thing in there is the water cooling

[languid nimbus]

saw a tri-sli on fb the other day

[obsidian wolf]

nice

Men

[languid nimbus]

and even that appears old lol

[obsidian wolf]

If I was to manage do my initial

Build

With the 13600k

and the 4070 ti

ah men

and in my beloved fractal north design

but hey a monitor wasn't in that 2000$ budget

so I had to say no

but I would have gone above the budget just for that case

😭

[dusty cedar]

is there even still water in that radiator?

[languid nimbus]

prob not lmaoooo

[vast apex]

Bruh

[odd abyss]

what

[vast apex]

Typed allat

[odd abyss]

what happened💀

[vast apex]

Wah Wah no cussing!!!

[odd abyss]

no cussing, correct lol

[vast apex]

Im in the market for a good gaming laptop, within a U.S. $1000-$1500 budget. I know gaming laptops kinda suck, but I have no time for a PC as I’m always traveling and need something to bring with me.

Would appreciate if anyone could help me find a model or brand to start off with at least

[odd abyss]

and boom, now you wait

[vast apex]

👍

[dusty cedar]

just about any laptop within that price range is going to be good for what you get

best buy has some decent deals. i picked up a msi laptop with a 3050 for my wife for under 800 bucks

[odd abyss]

@vast apex

look for some laptops, screenshot the specs and send them here

i recommend bestbuy

[dusty cedar]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-cyborg-15-6-144hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-with-8gb-ram-and-512gb-ssd-black/6532164.p?skuId=6532164

[odd abyss]

there ya go @vast apex

[vast apex]

W

[dusty cedar]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-zephyrus-16-wqxga-165hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i9-16gb-ddr5-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-1tb-pcie-4-0-ssd-off-black/6494637.p?skuId=6494637

[odd abyss]

rtx 4060 is like the best gpu out right now

for reference

my pc could not run a 4060 or it would bottleneck harder than a head on car crash

@vast apex look around tho, decide which one is best for you

with prices and stuff

[vast apex]

I kinda like that one ngl

But I will look around

[odd abyss]

it’s all your choice

but i see you’ve found out how all of this works kinda

that’s good

[vast apex]

15 inch is a perfect screen size for carryon

[odd abyss]

i would say yeah

[dusty cedar]

just stay away from hp. i have my hp and its on its way to dying after just 2 years

[odd abyss]

ouch

[dusty cedar]

yeah. spent a grand on it and it has all types of bs errors and blue screens when it feels like it

its so common hp has a faq on their website about it

[odd abyss]

weirddddd

[dusty cedar]

last error screen that came up was about the cmos. another about my ssd. even though my ssd is fine. it just dies when it feels like it and there's no troubleshooting it to fix it.

[obsidian wolf]

I bought for a general closely price to that one in 2021

a 3050 msi katana gf66

[vast apex]

I own one right now and I hate it

[obsidian wolf]

that was the best 1000$ laptop back them

I found ludicrous that 3070 laptops still cost around 1300-1800$

[flint sapphire]

It’s not quite as powerful as a full gaming laptop but you should probably consider a steam deck if you want crazy portability

[obsidian wolf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kCJR78

Can we cut it down even more from there to run games in 2023 (at an actual good speed)

(Deals) I know but wouldn't this be like the good head start to any build without buying used components or spending more than 600$ on the build itself?

[obsidian wigeon]

that's just pretty bad tbh

if new parts are a must might as well start saving up more

for around 200 a 2060 can be had

or hell even used 6600

cuz once you upgrade it, the psu, mobo and case has to be changed

[obsidian wolf]

yeah

I am trying to think of a way

where you can cut everything down to the minimum without relying on deals

and something that can be get on a constant basis

like the ryzen 4600g etc etc

I mean you could cut down on the graphics card and leave the integrated ones

but, how can you make something more out of this build without going into the unrealistic slow graphics card

[earnest olive]

i mean this is pretty awful even for $600 new

but also

just buy used at that budget

i built a pc that was 2.5x as powerful as this for $600 with a mix of new and used parts

[obsidian wolf]

Yeah

mmm

Used can be do far cheaper

On deals as well

[earnest olive]

even with new components you can do much much better than this

[obsidian wolf]

:V For new components I believe the new sweet spot will be the one back in 2019 with 800$

[obsidian wolf]

Mmm let me try

:V

[earnest olive]

wat

why would a build from 2019 be better

[obsidian wolf]

I am talking price relativity

Not component wise

I believe that '800$'

will be once again that sweet spot for everything new that can run things at a good speed

[earnest olive]

you can still do that with $600

you're just not making the right choices

also, that power supply is a fire hazard

[obsidian wolf]

Lmao

[earnest olive]

i am not joking

ask @wheat coral

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KfHrNc here's a $600 new brand pc that crushes the one you just posted

about 65% more powerful

and much less likely to explode

[obsidian wolf]

I need to try harder and see if I can squish more in prices.

[earnest olive]

at the moment this is about as optimized as it gets

not sure what "squishing" you plan to do

[obsidian wolf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fy4G9r

Only 1 buck less

but it includes wifi

But the graphics card in question is far better on yours.

Mmm is hard to squish like I said lmao

[cyan ravine]

About the same those two builds

Tho 6650xt wins cos newer and better drivers

[obsidian wolf]

could the arc 750

join the competition if the prices go even lower

[cyan ravine]

750 could work for veterans

People who just want a pc to game? Nah

[obsidian wolf]

Mmmm

[cyan ravine]

It's a power user card, still a lot of bugs to work out

[flint sapphire]

Nah do it. The best way to learn is struggle.

[obsidian wolf]

For people that want to game Wifi is sometime a factor

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[obsidian wolf]

Since most of them want their wifi connection rather than a lan cable

if they are not all about computers

[earnest olive]

nah, the 6650xt is a decent step up from the 5700xt

[obsidian wolf]

But again the issue is the graphics card

[cyan ravine]

Not according to demonmit, you might want to ask him about that

[obsidian wolf]

What graphic card is both good and consistent to keep a build bellow 600$

[earnest olive]

demonmit also told me my laptop would last a week maximum

i'm typing on it right now

1.5 years later

[flint sapphire]

[obsidian wolf]

[flint sapphire]

Demonmit potentially wrong forever in my mind now

[earnest olive]

it's not a huge difference but it's significant enough to matter

[obsidian wolf]

So the only way to make something cost effective again goes back to the initial though of 800$

[earnest olive]

worth noting that that 5700xt model has some serious cooling issues and oc headroom will be diminished as well

[earnest olive]

...what?

[obsidian wolf]

Wifi + good graphics card should make it worth it

[earnest olive]

did i not just show you a cost effective $600 pc

💀

[obsidian wolf]

Yeah yeah

[earnest olive]

you can add a wifi adapter to any pc for like $15 if you're so hung up about wifi

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CZJR78 done, it has wifi now

[obsidian wolf]

Something that is both attractive to the eye like rgb, wifi for the lazy, good graphics card so there is no complaints about running games for the next years.

800$ sounds like the sweet spot on that

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/8kfPxr this was around $600

[obsidian wolf]

But it was build on top of a deal

[flint sapphire]

Issue is sourcing those parts where frank is if I’m not mistaken

[earnest olive]

i paid full price for the cpu, cooler, ssd, and case

retail

bought board, ram, gpu, and psu used

[obsidian wolf]

3070 deal.

[earnest olive]

gpu is the only really crazy deal there

board, ram, and psu are reproducible without too much effort

[obsidian wolf]

GPU crazy deal is half of the build

[cyan ravine]

I went to validate this and a 5700xt is as quick as a 1080 Ti. Which is quicker than a 3060

They're about the same

https://youtu.be/1w9ZTmj_zX4

[earnest olive]

that is... a very interesting and roundabout way of doing that

why not just compare 5700xt and 6650xt directly?

it's 5-10%

not something i would give up to add built in wifi

[obsidian wolf]

Don't forget the nice looking case

jajajaja

[tawny fiber]

See the Tom's hardware gpu ranking chart

[vital patrol]

Hi guys. Someone from here use Lian Li AIO. Where to connect fans from aio? Into CPU_FAN or in controller from Lian Li with rest of fans?

[cyan ravine]

You can die on that hill with him Safi cos in any other conversation the semantics would be "you wouldn't notice the difference in 5%" even if there was any

[cyan ravine]

Into the controller mate. The controller plugs into the motherboard then you control all of it via L-connect

Or not with L-connect if the ST version is any different

[vital patrol]

is SL version

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it'll be L-connect then

Btw @earnest olive @obsidian wolf here's what I'd do
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BPGHC6

When you've got a far better cpu all discussions of 5% or 10% are long gone since the cpu perf claws back any of that (if it was even there to begin with) anyway

[flint sapphire]

Y not this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h784cb

[dusty cedar]

this^ but also make sure you put settings to sync with motherboard

[cyan ravine]

Yup

[cyan ravine]

Are you trying to give me agita

[flint sapphire]

[cyan ravine]

[dusty cedar]

you don't technically have to though. but its easier to set it and forget it. you can still run the fan speed curve profiles if you want to do that also. i set mine to quiet from time to time and the temp only goes up 2 degrees. its not even noticable

[cyan ravine]

Oh you want to tho for rgb control

Otherwise it just defaults

[dusty cedar]

also, for the fan lights, if you want to sync them to the rest of the lights that you have if the others aren't lian li, just drop 1 menu down from the fan profiles and sync those to the motherboard

when you do that you can use your default light program to control the lian li lights. i think lian li has more options though so do what you want

[cyan ravine]

I think it's ok for software, I just hated the delay and bloat from l connect

Not to mention the fans were just not great

Going from those to P12's I dropped something like 5 degrees on my temps

[dusty cedar]

i dont notice any difference from before or after i installed it.

[cyan ravine]

Yes exactly

It takes ages to start

Sometimes it doesn't at all

'twas annoying

There's worse rgb software tho, far worse

[dusty cedar]

i have more problems with msi center than i ever had with l connect and i've had exactly 0 issues with l connect tbh

[cyan ravine]

At least l-connect was consistent

Eh I've had no problems with msi center yet

[flint sapphire]

Never ever if you can avoid it download msi center

[cyan ravine]

Just program the rgb then uninstall it

[flint sapphire]

They turn on bandwidth limitations by default for “optimized gaming”

[dusty cedar]

i like changing it weekly

last week was joker theme

[flint sapphire]

Only use the rgb software*

[dusty cedar]

this week its lime theme

[cyan ravine]

I like it because it retains the settings even after uninstall

So I can nuke anything that isn't 'mystic light service' and just run straight one colour

[flint sapphire]

Believe it or not Corsair is the same

[cyan ravine]

Corsair is kinda the same

Not everything has hardware programming

[flint sapphire]

True

[cyan ravine]

But also a lot more of corsair's stuff I just straight up hate

[cyan ravine]

Like to this day their infamously bad vengeance sticks still have rgb problems

[dusty cedar]

Joker theme last week

[flint sapphire]

Christ that’s bright

[cyan ravine]

Ignoring the other problems of the vengeance sticks just being terrible quality in general

[flint sapphire]

Like the last week one 👀

[dusty cedar]

That's behind tinted glass too lmao

[cyan ravine]

Hella bright

I like a good minimal/no rgb

[dusty cedar]

i tried to keep it minimal but i really like those fans.

[cyan ravine]

Probably because my pc is right next to the screen and I want to focus on the screen

[dusty cedar]

thats why my ram has 0 rgb on it

my pc is blocked by my second monitor on a shelf next to my desk

[flint sapphire]

[cyan ravine]

God I love that so much

Every freaking time you post it

BUT GOD THOSE FANS

IT'S SO CLOSE TO PERFECT SLEEPER STATUS

[flint sapphire]

Incoming delid+Liquid Metal

[cyan ravine]

What's his address, ima send him arctics

Don't try to stop me

[flint sapphire]

Lmao

[cyan ravine]

[flint sapphire]

Those are 280mm rads so need some 140s

[cyan ravine]

Those corsair's are attacks on the conscience

[flint sapphire]

Itssss fineeeee

Wiring them was nightmare fuel

[dusty cedar]

anyone know if a 4090 will bottleneck on a 13700k?

[cyan ravine]

P14's right? Done

[flint sapphire]

It will

Unless it’s 4k generally

[cyan ravine]

At 1440p it does in a few circumstances

[dusty cedar]

ok maybe i should have specified. at 1440p

[flint sapphire]

4090 bottlenecks on everything tbh under 1440p

[cyan ravine]

1440p everything bottlenecks a 4090 somehow

Do some extreme cpu overclocking and you break free of any bottleneck

4090 is a 4K card, you easily can manage 144hz in most situations

[dusty cedar]

i don't really play games, currently, that require super intense graphic processing. i'm running 240fps in overwatch on my 3080

[flint sapphire]

Or a ultrawide 1440p card, not really recommended

[cyan ravine]

G9 counts as 4090 worthy

It's a bit scuffed tho due to DSC

[flint sapphire]

“Super” ultrawide

[dusty cedar]

wonder how far i can go with it though since i have it limited and on g sync

[cyan ravine]

Well you'll probably get the frame rates but only use like 70% of the gpu utility

[dusty cedar]

yeah thats where i'm running at now at 240fps on my 240htz monitor

[flint sapphire]

It’s like if you ran a 3080 on a 1080p display basically

[cyan ravine]

Highest I'd do at **conventional 1440p with a 13700K is a 4080 or XTX and even then those do 4K just fine

[cyan ravine]

Pretty much this, it won't get used much at all and potential gets wasted

AMA I've run both a 4090 and 3080 at these resolutions

[dusty cedar]

ok well for the short term. like a few months because the 13900k is still expensive

[cyan ravine]

13900K won't give any performance gain over 13700k

Not even 1%

13700K is like, there's enough e cores already that any potential gains over the 13600K have been achieved

13900K doesn't offer anything better over that

[dusty cedar]

8p cores and 16 e cores doesnt offer anything better? 🤨

[cyan ravine]

Nope, over 8p and 8e?

You've already got the 8 gaming cores

Running a 13700k at 5.5 and a 13900K and 5.6 the difference isn't even 1%

E cores are for work not games

The fastest way to play games on 13th gen is to actually turn e cores off and turn off hyperthreading

You'd think not but the fps shoots way up when you really tune them properly

[dusty cedar]

i play games on the side. i make music as a hobby

kinda been thinking about graphic design recently

[cyan ravine]

None of those are good enough reasons for me to say sell a 13700K at something like 350 and drop another 210 odd in difference on a 13900k

13700K is plenty powerful

It's already endgame tier

[dusty cedar]

i was wondering when you were gonna change that 2 to a 3 lmao

[cyan ravine]

[dusty cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/wag-finger-baby-i-see-you-i-saw-that-laughing-gif-16869504

i saw that

[cyan ravine]

In any case if you're considering a 4090, you'll want to go 4K. Cpu render even on the best chips can't keep up with a 4090 at 1440p so there will always be lost performance

And 1080p is way out of the question, best I managed on a 13900KS was 30%(??) Gpu usage on that card

[dusty cedar]

takin it 1 step at a time. i'm already gonna have to get a new power supply alongside the 4090 when i decide to get it.

[cyan ravine]

Also fair warning, you'll be choking that card really hard in a Y60

[dusty cedar]

850w just aint gonna cut it

[cyan ravine]

Only card that's suitable for a y60 is a suprim x liquid

[dusty cedar]

people said the same thing about this card in my case and honestly, it never goes above 70c

[cyan ravine]

Ye cos cards self manage heat by clocking down

[dusty cedar]

i have 2 140mm fans on the bottom blowin air in

[cyan ravine]

So your card at 70 is probably running some 5% less gpu clock than what it really could do

[dusty cedar]

straight through the fins

[cyan ravine]

The two fans on the bottom help but it's still a long way from optimal

Once a 3080 hits 63C the downclocks get aggressive

AMA I had a similar scenario with my 3080 in my old corsair case

I'm very familiar with all of this

[fossil cedar]

Skill issue

[dusty cedar]

idk. theres a ton of airflow going through my case is all i know.

[cyan ravine]

Ton vs optimal are two different things my friend

[fossil cedar]

Felix just tell it not to get warm ezpz

[dusty cedar]

im not even talking about my exhaust fan. just down by the card where there is no fan at

[cyan ravine]

In any case if you want a good performance 4090 in a y60 your choice is a full water loop card or surpim x liquid, or neptune 4090

[dusty cedar]

theres almost equal amounts of air coming out behind my case under my exhaust fan

[cyan ravine]

Again, a lot of air vs. optimal are two different things

I'm an engineer in training, I've done courses on fluid mechanics

[dusty cedar]

i wouldn't have anywhere to mount an aio for the surpim in my case. i think the hoses would be to short tbh

[cyan ravine]

On the side

[dusty cedar]

to reach over there in place of the side 140mm's

[cyan ravine]

Ls720 on top, suprim.liquid on the side

It does reach, I've seen a build that's done this

[dusty cedar]

oh

i havent so if you say so.

🤷‍♂️

[cyan ravine]

Ironically by jayz2braincells as well

https://youtu.be/FvSdBY5wTAI

[dusty cedar]

i havent seen a lot of his videos yet because youtube is busy ignoring me when i say not to recommend me ltt videos because its become 100% saturated with ltt

even his side channels is swamping my recommended list

[cyan ravine]

I barely even watch youtube at all lately

Sick of the ads, I don't use my phone anymore for that reason

[dusty cedar]

i thought that card was silver

i pay for youtube premium for my music. the no ads on youtube is a bonus

i drive for a living

music with no ads is a must have

[cyan ravine]

I use spotify

[flint sapphire]

Spotify or tidal if I’m feeling fancy

[dusty cedar]

see he even said in that video that if it wasn't a liquid cooled card you'd need 140's instead of the 120's it comes with to do the same job. 😛 i got that covered

[cyan ravine]

The 240 rad for it is plenty tbh

The suprim liquid is the goat of the 4090's

And it has a thin profile so it's perfect for a y60

For a monitor I'd suggest 4 options and only 4

[flint sapphire]

What if let’s say you got dual 280mm thiccc rads for it instead

[cyan ravine]

Samsung odyssey G9 240hz 1440p
Gigabyte M32U
Gigabyte FV43U
LG C2 OLED

Any other choices either have quality issues or just worse overall

[flint sapphire]

Eh my suggestions are similar just +1 qdoled ultrawide

[dusty cedar]

explaining to my wife that i'm buying a 1700 dollar card is a lot easier than saying btw i'm spending 2300 on the same card but water flows through it........

[cyan ravine]

The suprim liquid is supposed to be worth 1750

Don't buy it for 2300

[cyan ravine]

I would offer that but the qdoled first gen have had worse burn-in than oled

So it's off my plate atm

[dusty cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-4090-rtx-4090-suprim-liquid-x-24g/p/N82E16814137759

[flint sapphire]

Oh did rtings or someone follow up on it?

[cyan ravine]

I used to feel the same tho

Ye rtings

[flint sapphire]

Rip

[cyan ravine]

After 3 months the C2 had the best results

Of all oled

[flint sapphire]

Lol I got 2 55 c2s

[cyan ravine]

Yeah no, find it for sub 2K for sure

It's the card you want, the rest will suffer perf hits

[dusty cedar]

by the time i get it anyways i'm sure the price will have come down anyways. tax is still going to keep the cost high though

[cyan ravine]

Damn

I almost bought a C2 but instead went second fv43u

[flint sapphire]

I barely use em

[cyan ravine]

I have a little regret but also, my fv43u was way cheaper for almost the same thing

So I'm not unhappy

[flint sapphire]

I go to watch Netflix and it’s always like “10 updates are ready”

[cyan ravine]

Been a while since I used an LG smart

Yeah it do be like that LOL

I appreciate it tho

Like 4 years later they were still sending updates for my older 55 inch

Much appreciated

[flint sapphire]

Not too shabby, kinda like apple phones

[cyan ravine]

Ya exactly like that

I hate apple tax but boy do they make you feel you earned their services

Apple support is goated

[flint sapphire]

The software updates are great till they kill your battery for the lols

[cyan ravine]

I even called them up once about, a year ago?

I was involved in a credit card fraud

I locked the card, called them angrily like "Hey, I haven't used any Apple for like 5 years, what gives"

They bent over backwards for me, had the charges reversed in the hour, meanwhile my bank had sorted out a new card and was investigating

I'd only used that card at 2 stores so I know where it came from

[flint sapphire]

Anyways

[cyan ravine]

But yea they were super nice even tho I didn't even own an apple in the last half a decade

Their support is awesome

[flint sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/i-started-blasting-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-danny-devito-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-blasting-gif-24425727

[dense brook]

Amd 3600 vs 5500?
5500 better right?

3600 + b450m + 1660super < can the cpu handle the gpu?

[cyan ravine]

Between those two? Whichever is cheaper

And also yes

[fossil cedar]

Basically the same cpu tbh

[cyan ravine]

Pretty much

[dense brook]

Thx Found 3600 still available 😃 about 25usd cheaper.

[tawny fiber]

3600 faster by a few fps iirc

[dense brook]

Even better! Thanks!

[tidal moth]

My credit card just gets used like crazy and then I pay it in full each month

[obsidian wolf]

Might as well do the full server already 💀

Piece by piece I’m gonna make a red devil theme build with the one I have, is the only answer I have to my friend all white build

[frigid night]

Isn't it better for your credit to pay all but 5% so it rolls over?

[tidal moth]

No

[tidal moth]

My credit score is 789

I always pay in full

Make sure that you are below 30% when your bill roles out so they report low utilization of your card

[frigid night]

Ah ok

[loud hare]

Hi. New here. I use to build computers, but it's been several years . Now I need to upgrade my system. I have a ATX tower and just need some advice on the Motherboard , CPU and ram. I don't do anything extreme on it. Just record some music and videos. I don't play game either. Any suggestions would be helpful. A lot have changed since I built any. I do have a M-Audio 2496 soundcard that I need to keep and I think it uses an PCI slot. I dont know what a M.2 slot is either

[fossil cedar]

Sure, what's your current specs? You can check in task manager if you're unsure, what country and how much are you looking to spend?

[loud hare]

USA and about 200. I'm reusing my ATX case and the video card, but need a processor upgrade and MO to complete.

[twin sedge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hCKv3

thoughts?

[mossy venture]

being used for?

[twin sedge]

gaming?

[loud hare]

no gaming, just a little music

[loud hare]

Thank you for the suggestion, but that's way too much stuff for my doing.

[twin sedge]

i suggested something?

[loud hare]

well the lnk you sent from pcpartpicker.. I just need a MO and CPU

[twin sedge]

I wasn’t suggesting

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7MLYk9
Or https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhVHC6

[twin sedge]

i was just asking what people thought of it

[loud hare]

oops, my bad. lol

[mossy venture]

what is your current pc?

spec wise

[loud hare]

If I had the money I'd look into it myself.

[twin sedge]

i think the 6700xt is overkill for me

but the rest looks good

[mossy venture]

6700 at $300 is great

[twin sedge]

thats true

also abt the bios warning things at the top

is that something i should be concerned abt

[mossy venture]

nah

it has a bios update button if you need it, odds are you wont

[loud hare]

AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual core Proccess 4400+ / 2 gb ram

[mossy venture]

ah...

yeah one sec

[loud hare]

yeah old one, lol

[mossy venture]

does it have a dgpu in there?

or do you need an igpu

[loud hare]

I do not know what that is... ipgu

[mossy venture]

gpu built into your cpu

[fossil cedar]

You'd probably be better off getting something used considering 200$ budget wont get you much new for ram, cpu and a motherboard

[loud hare]

that's what I thought.. Thank you

[mossy venture]

lowest I'd go https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NkfGBc

[fossil cedar]

That has no flashback

[mossy venture]

oh i thought it did, mb

[fossil cedar]

All good, the b550 does so kinda confusing

[mossy venture]

this then https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6GqRrr

this if you have a dgpu already https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g8b34s

[fossil cedar]

You'd probably wanna look for a 10400/11400 and a b560 motherboard or something
Or something like a ryzen 5 4600g/5600g and a b550/x570 or a b450/x470 if the seller has updated the bios

Either with this ram kit or a similar kit that's cheaper used
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5

[mossy venture]

but yeah, I'd just go used

can find a cheap 3600/3300x/3400g/5600g and matching mobo

[fossil cedar]

They probably need igpu so no 3600/3300x

[mossy venture]

yeah, they could have an old dgpu alr tho

[fossil cedar]

Possibly but wasn't mentioned and that cpu is so old that it could be motherboard gpu era I'm not familiar with it

[mossy venture]

ahh

[earnest olive]

3200c20 for $1 cheaper than 3200c16 💀

even if they have a dgpu it might be so old that it causes issues with modern OS at this point

[hollow steeple]

can you fit a 3 fan card in deepcool matrexx 40

[fossil cedar]

Woops didn't realise

[earnest olive]

google the max gpu length of the case and google the length of the gpu

not every 3 fan gpu is the same size

[hollow steeple]

ok

[earnest olive]

we can't answer that for you

[hollow steeple]

k

thanks

[earnest olive]

XP era dgpu will not play nice with drivers on win10/11

safest to assume it's not worth keeping

their cpu is almost old enough to vote

it's older than you I think lol

[fossil cedar]

If it's almost that old surely it's motherboard gpu era then

[earnest olive]

dgpus existed in 2005 sir

[fossil cedar]

Ik but instead of igpu

They didn't explicitly mention a gpu either

[earnest olive]

the best at that time would have been 7800 gtx

[earnest olive]

video card

probably means dgpu

[hollow steeple]

whats the best gpu you can support on a b450 m

[earnest olive]

but regardless

gonna need to get a modern igpu

[mossy venture]

a 4090

[earnest olive]

dual 4090

[mossy venture]

ah

[earnest olive]

or rtx ada 6000

depends on your definition of best

[mossy venture]

i knew it was old, didn't think that old lol

[earnest olive]

it's turning 18 in 2 months

[fossil cedar]

I'm blind shuush

[hollow steeple]

what happens if i pair an rtx 4090 with my ryzen 3 5300g and b450 m (if psu is enough power)

[earnest olive]

lol

[mossy venture]

it is indeed older than me lol

[fossil cedar]

Hahahwhahahwhw

[earnest olive]

you'll make the 4090 perform like a 3070 with the amount of bottlenecking

[hollow steeple]

what abt 3060

[earnest olive]

still worth upgrading cpu

grab a 5600 and put it in the same board

[fossil cedar]

5300g is oem only so they might not be able to sips

[hollow steeple]

what happens if you use a 4090 on a b450 with the appropriate cpu

[earnest olive]

nothing

5800x3d + b450m + 4090 at 4k would be fine

[earnest olive]

5300g has been obtainable outside of oem for a while thanks to our dear friends at aliexpress

[fossil cedar]

Motherboards dont really have anything to do with gpu compatibility

[earnest olive]

but yeah could be a stupid hp board with stupid locked down bios

[fossil cedar]

Well yes but officially which means they probs has hp or dell or something and they could lock to only g cpus or something

[earnest olive]

HP locked their ryzen 1000 prebuilts to ryzen 1000 only

disgusting

[hollow steeple]

my current gpu is an rx 5500

[earnest olive]

imagine having a 1600 and your only "upgrade" option is a 1700

[hollow steeple]

nah i have a b450m

[earnest olive]

1600 as in ryzen 5 1600

[fossil cedar]

Is it a hp or dell or something?

[earnest olive]

is your pc prebuilt

[hollow steeple]

no

[fossil cedar]

Also the m just means micro atx btw

[earnest olive]

okay good

then you can upgrade to a 5600 freely

[fossil cedar]

Honestly my first priority would just be gpu 5300g is decent

[earnest olive]

is it?

[hollow steeple]

my first priority is storage

[earnest olive]

it's decent enough for the rx 5500 but I don't think it's a good pairing for a 3060 or better

[hollow steeple]

what abt 2060

if i find a good deal

[earnest olive]

it's gonna perform something like an r3 3100/i7-7700

[fossil cedar]

Iirc it's a speedy like boi

Iirc it's closer to a 3300x

[earnest olive]

still, I think 3060 is a bit much for that

zen 3 but l3 is cut down to 8mb

[hollow steeple]

rx 6700?

[earnest olive]

rx 6700 is more powerful than 3060

[hollow steeple]

ik

[earnest olive]

you should just upgrade the cpu if you plan to make a large upgrade to gpu

[fossil cedar]

But yeah i wouldn't get any nv cards unless used they're way too expensive new

Ofc if on tight budget do gpu first since your gpu cpu outweighs your current gpu a lot

[earnest olive]

upgrade gpu, sell old gpu, use proceeds from old gpu to buy new cpu

[fossil cedar]

Maybe not a lot but a decent amount anyway

[earnest olive]

is your rx 5500 4gb or 8gb? is it 5500 or 5500xt? since rx 5500 is an oem part

[hollow steeple]

4gb 5500

[earnest olive]

probably worth $60-70

I'm wondering how you ended up with 5300g and rx 5500 in a custom pc

OEM exclusive CPU and OEM exclusive GPU

were you shopping on aliexpress

or maybe you bought them from someone parting out a prebuilt

[hollow steeple]

i case swapped

also its worth abt $110 - $120 usd

[fossil cedar]

The import thing is did you motherboard swap?

[hollow steeple]

ya

[fossil cedar]

Ah okay

[earnest olive]

idk what to tell you but I've been buying far superior cards for $100

for a while now

you're free to try to sell it for $120 but all I have to say is good luck

you'll need it

[hollow steeple]

i found a 9 dollar 2060

thats what the bid is at

but its the hp oem one

nvm its for parts only

[south cliff]

e

My computer screen keeps freezing and then continuing what it was doing not sure what the issue is

[potent portal]

Could be a driver hangup

Or just a loose cable

[south cliff]

ok

[cerulean snow]

any $500 pc that can run boneworks?

[mossy venture]

this with a used gpu https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P6mJcb

id prolly just go used for cpu/mobo/ram as well

possibly case too

[obsidian wolf]

@earnest olive

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LrsxpH

Wifi, RGB, and good graphics card

everything we talk about last night

[earnest olive]

you really have a thing for fire hazard power supplies huh

[obsidian wolf]

lmao

I don't know which ones are the good

ones

[earnest olive]

also a worse cpu than the i3-12100f and pretty unlikely to even turn on

[obsidian wolf]

I search for rating online

Why wouldn't it turn on

lmao :V

[earnest olive]

that board is very unlikely to come with a bios ready for the ryzen 5 5500 and also doesn't have bios flashback

so you'd need to buy an older ryzen cpu to update it to even get this to work

[obsidian wolf]

Mmmmmm

[earnest olive]

I have a ryzen 5 1500x sitting in my room for just that purpose but most people don't

[obsidian wolf]

But I myself can set that up

Just buy one and do that myself

but again

doesn't it make sense

[earnest olive]

then you're still paying significantly extra for a worse cpu than the i3-12100f

and connecting it to a bomb

[obsidian wolf]

Where can I see

if is a bomb

or not

[earnest olive]

ryzen 5 5500 is basically a rebranded ryzen 5 3600

don't get the idea that it performs close to a 5600

that's what AMD wants you to think

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

the psu you put is tier E

[obsidian wolf]

be quiet! Pure Power 11

:V

[obsidian wolf]

So why those psu even exist

-_-

[rotund idol]

To make bombs

[mossy venture]

Improvised explosive devices

[dim forge]

some houses are just meant to be burned down...

mine isn't a bomb but the coil whine sometimes is annoying

[earnest olive]

bad products exist everywhere

those lower quality power supplies might be fine for a while

but will lack protections if something happens

where a good power supply will have protections in place

lower quality power supplies also have greater voltage ripple so system could be less stable with it

the absolute lowest quality power supplies will just explode well below their rated wattage

I saw a review where a power supply advertised as 500W exploded into flames at 195W load

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-explodes-gamers-nexus-power-supply-gif-23202345

[languid nimbus]

💥

[obsidian wolf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jcQxpH

Tier C psu

660

Can even add rgb ram as well

let's go!

[vague oracle]

Ryzen 5500

[fleet heron]

whats wrong with the 5500!?

[potent portal]

It's a worse 3600 with extra steps

[fleet heron]

what do you mean extra steps?

[potent portal]

You need to update the bios before the CPU will run

[fleet heron]

ah

[potent portal]

Whereas the 3600 will run out of the box on any 500 series chipset and most 400 boards

[fleet heron]

but daym the 5600 is i think only like 100 bucks more and you get way more performance for the money

[potent portal]

It's $40 more right now

[fleet heron]

woah

which one do you think is better the 12600k or the 5600

[potent portal]

12600k but you have to use Windows 11

[fleet heron]

is it better optimized for win 11?

[potent portal]

The thread scheduler for the E-cores is only on 11

Without that the system doesn't know which cores are the fast and slow ones and that hurts games when they get assigned to the slow ones

[fleet heron]

daym you really know your tech. good that i got windows 11

oh i got a question if i disable most my startup apps on task manager will the start time for my computer lower? or does it not affect it?

[potent portal]

Yes that usually helps it get started faster

I have all of mine disabled

I'm on the desktop and ready to roll almost instantly after entering my pin

[fleet heron]

it even says it takes 8.8 seconds i just disabled everything now im going to check how long it takes

i left two Radeon things bc i think there important

it went up lmao

9 seconds now

[potent portal]

Task manager doesn't accurately measure that

It's only counting time from bios to login screen

[tawny violet]

Quick question for GPU gurus
I've been looking around for GPUs at around 200k HUF
The ones I see that are available are the 3060 Ti, 6700 XT and 3070 (with some budget bending as those go around 250k HUF)
obviously the 6700 XT has more oomph than a 3060 Ti
But Nvidia has really good upscaling, and Shadowplay is super convenient
Which would you guys put your money to?

[obsidian wigeon]

6700XT doesn't really have more oomph tbh

but it also depends on the games you play

the extra vram on 6700XT comes in handy for new games

in my opinion you can simply lower settings to cope with 8 gigs on 3060ti to get stuff like dlss and shedowplay (if you use it regularly)

if you're fine with sacrifing dlss and shadowplay, 6700XT is your choice

[jagged ember]

Also Nvidia Broadcast

Don't forget that whole suite

But yeah all depends on if you're gonna be using nvidia's software suite mostly

[tawny violet]

It's an interesting situation since raw FPS seems to favor the 6700XT in most games I care about (after watching a lot of videos)

But DLSS is equaling the playing field and Shadowplay is something I used once and craved ever since

[obsidian wolf]

My thin got this number is

I only had 3.9 vram in the 3050 ti on my laptop and I manage to run everything fine

[tawny violet]

3060 Ti vs 6700XT seems really close in FPS
And the 6700XT is like 20k HUF more, but also has DLSS+Shadowplay
While the 6700XT has the VRAM

it's a really tough call IMO

[mossy venture]

If the 6700xt is cheaper, I would go for that personally

[tawny violet]

it depends on manufacturer really

some are equal price, others have ~20k HUF difference

DLSS and Shadowplay is big though

especially since DLSS can win a lot of frames in the right circumstances

[mossy venture]

3060 ti with dlss is normally around 6700xt performance, if shadoplay is really worth that big of a price difference to you than go for it

6700xt also has fsr 2.0

[tawny violet]

isn't FSR 2.0 available for Team Green too?

It does

Neat

[tawny violet]

Here is the full list of parts
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 5700G BOX (with Wraith Stealth cooler)
70 890 Ft

CPU cooler
DEEPCOOL AG620 BK ARGB
28 490 Ft

Motherboard
ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI)
84 990 Ft

Case
CORSAIR 4000D Airflow Black
63 890 Ft

GPU
ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB GDDR6X OC PCIE (TUF-RTX3060TI-O8GD6X-GAMING)
218 390 Ft

Memory
Kingston Fury 32GB Renegade DDR4 3600MHz CL16 KIT KF436C16RB1K2/32
38 490 Ft

PSU
EVGA B5 750W
49 990 Ft

SSD
CRUCIAL 1TB P3 M.2 PCIe M.2 2280 CT1000P3SSD8
23 890 Ft
SAMSUNG 500GB 970 EVO Plus M.2 PCIe M.2 2280 MZ-V7S500BW + ASUS TUF-Gaming-A1 M.2 NVMe External case USB-C 3.2 Gen 2x1
19 990 Ft

HDD
SEAGATE BarraCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200rpm 256MB SATA ST2000DM008
18 291 Ft

Monitor
AOC 27G2SPAE/BK
72 490 Ft

Mouse+keyboard
ASUS TUF Gaming K1 + M3 Combo Hungarian
27 290 Ft

Intended for 1080p 120+hz

[mossy venture]

If 5600 is cheaper than the 5700g, go for that, it's better

[tawny violet]

It's not lmao

[mossy venture]

If there's a b550 that will suit your needs, x570 is worse unless you need 3+ nvmes

Unless x570 is cheapest

The 970 Evo plus is kinda unnecessary, you won't really see a difference in experience between that as a boot drive and just putting your os on the p3

[tawny violet]

it has everything I need and is ATX (which is kind of a big deal for me since I intend to add a capture card later)

[mossy venture]

Ah alr

[tawny violet]

it's meant to be an external backup drive

hence the casing for it

[mossy venture]

I'm just throwing out things I'd change, if you've a reason for them just ignore me

Ah missed that

[jagged ember]

Seems a waste for it to be an external drive though

I'd get like an mp33 or mp34 or sn570 or something as an external instead myself

[tawny violet]

I suppose you can say that

[jagged ember]

Hey, your choice haha

Just suggestions

[tawny violet]

It's more that I can't add just the external SSD case

you MUST buy an SSD to get it for whatever reason (probably due to the confifurator being wacky)

[jagged ember]

Oh no you need an SSD

To put in the enclosure

[tawny violet]

ik

it's not like PCPartPicker where you can just add the enclosure only

[jagged ember]

Ahh okay ic

[tawny violet]

tis what it is

the site's running a promo where they bundle a free enclosure to select Samsung 500g and 1TB SSDs

and if something comes up I can always just install the 500gb into the system from the enclosure and keep on trucking

anyhow

in a broader sense
Does it work out okay?

and I need peripherals since I have nothing rn

first PC ever

[south cliff]

What is a good case for a budget build that has fans pre installed looking for a black one

[analog hearth]

Montech makes some good cases. I think they have fans preinstalled

[south cliff]

Montech X3 Mesh 6pcs, 3 x 140mm& 3 x 120mm Fixed RGB Lighting Fans ATX Mid-Tower PC Gaming Case, USB3.0, Door Open Tempered Glass Side Panel, High Airflow, Black https://a.co/d/2jshiDs

This on good?

[dusty cedar]

is that what youre looking for?

[cyan ravine]

it's good for budget

[south cliff]

Just looking for a case that can hold a arc case for a pc I’m trying to resell

That has case fans so I don’t got to buy

Them

Atx*

[elder river]

This what I got and imma just buy a 6950xt in like 3 days for 600 at micro center

I went over budget but idc anymore

[cyan ravine]

that's a brilliant set of specs you got there for that price

apart from the P3 plus I totally approve

P3 plus is meh

lol

[south cliff]

Open box 12600k?

[elder river]

No

Micro center bundle goes crazy

[south cliff]

Oh

[elder river]

Ik it’s pretty mid but I don’t really think I need a fast ssd

[cyan ravine]

gonna be a hella nice 1300$ build

yeah it's alright

P3 plus isn't terrible just meh lol

for gaming you def won't need better

[south cliff]

My build cost me 1260 you getting amazing deal for 1300

[elder river]

My first real build aswell

My first build was a bunch of used stuff I found locally for 200 bucks

[south cliff]

I wish I had a micro center near me

[elder river]

I live 1 mile from mine lmao

[south cliff]

Luck man

Lucky

I’m 5 hours from the nearest one

[dusty cedar]

ill have one near me again when i move out of this lame af state im in now

[elder river]

Lmao

[dusty cedar]

people only come to this state to die and for disney

[south cliff]

Florida?

[dusty cedar]

yeah this place sucks

[south cliff]

I live here to

It does suck not really anything besides beach and Disney

And I don’t go to the beach anymore

[dusty cedar]

and a bunch of old karens thats probably gonna die in a car wreck they cause or in their sleep by next week

[south cliff]

Got boring after a while

[dusty cedar]

cant wait to go home to ohio again

maybe its just the area im in but fr f florida

[gentle pollen]

It finally arrived! Gonna buy the B550M DS3H motherboard for it next week.

[languid nimbus]

he’s a lil beat up on top?

[obsidian wolf]

0.6 🥴

[earnest olive]

I live 400 miles from my nearest microcenter

[gentle pollen]

dry paste by the looks.

[fossil cedar]

Rookie numbers

[cyan ravine]

Ya rookie numbers bro

[earnest olive]

of course you don't have microcenter

you're bri'ish

[cyan ravine]

I'll be there in 2 weeks I just gotta sail across the pacific

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/home-alone-cocking-gun-readt-macaulay-culkin-gif-12419649

[fossil cedar]

Just run over the water ez

[earnest olive]

you seem a little grumpy pato

would you like a toast sandwich

[cyan ravine]

What u think us convicts are m8, the flash?

I ain't runnin over no water

[fossil cedar]

What's in the sammich?

[fossil cedar]

Just tell the water you don't give consent to sink into it

[cyan ravine]

[earnest olive]

toast sandwich is the pinnacle of bri'ish cuisine

[cyan ravine]

The water's slapped me b4 u think it'll listen?

[earnest olive]

one slice of buttered toast between two slices of untoasted bread

add salt and pepper

[fossil cedar]

Oh toast n butter

Wait no why would it be regular bread outside

Confusion

Cheese toasty better

Yumm

[fossil cedar]

Yes ofc

[cyan ravine]

U talk to it I'm scared

[fossil cedar]

water don't let felix sink he no gib con cents

Try now

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-styles-walk-on-water-running-sign-of-the-times-gif-11801328

[fossil cedar]

See ez

[cyan ravine]

[dusty cedar]

Anyone know why my gpu would spike loads when nothing is running? Just jumps from 0% load to 30-45% then back to 0% for no reason. Never used to do this.

[south cliff]

Is the gigabyte p850gm a good psu?

i heard some things about it explodings

[paper summit]

Well

[pseudo pollen]

1600 from my nearest one

actually only 1111 miles, so not too bad

[potent portal]

@south cliff Relisted https://www.ebay.com/itm/285211333033

[earnest olive]

if i had to guess, something is running

[south cliff]

yay

i got a little more saved up

so i can get it hopefully

[south cliff]

well if there are memes about it i wont get it lol

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-explodes-gamers-nexus-power-supply-gif-23202345

Not just memes, several deep dive videos

[south cliff]

both

i was going to buy a budet build and found one new for 40

[potent portal]

They're officially recalled and supposedly fixed... but I don't trust that

[south cliff]

yeah i was going to build a budget build a i7 8700 and a 6600xt for about 500 but i didnt wanna get the pc to explode

[potent portal]

Exploding is bad. If you wanted you could get the $40 one and check if it's on the recall list. If it is, GB will exchange it for a "fixed" model for free.

[south cliff]

yeah but now i see this alienware is posted again i will see if i can get it

and hopefully the gpu wont be broken

[potent portal]

6600 is a lot better than the 5600

Ok well there's also the 5600 GPU so there's the confusion

No but it wouldn't be the first time someone abbreviated

Anyway to answer your question I'd upgrade the CPU since it's more used at lower resolutions, and I assume you're at 1080p

That puts even more load on the CPU

Going from 4 weak cores to 6 much stronger cores will get a much more stable frame rate experience, even when you're GPU limited so I stand by the CPU upgrade

Not any worth getting

Mostly mobile and OEM parts

And the OEM ones perform like 3000 series

Similar performance to the 5000g series and 3000 series yes

[dusty cedar]

except nothing is. which was why i was wondering what could be going on.

[earnest olive]

probably a background task

[frigid night]

Sounds normal to me.

[dusty cedar]

doesn't sound normal to me considering the fact i own it and keep monitors of everything up. if it isn't being used it rests at 0% load and 0% utilization unless i open up the web browser or youtube. it resting at 0% then spiking up to 45% load for 0 reason is bothersome

[frigid night]

What are you monitoring it with?

[potent portal]

inb4 task manager

[dusty cedar]

nvidia performance overlay, and l connect. they all say 0% unless i am currently opening something or doing something that actually is needing to use my gpu.

[dusty cedar]

har har har

[potent portal]

Keep in mind that "45%" is relative to the current clock speed, not the max clock

So at the lowest idle state it should be running at 300MHz, and only half of those are active cycles so it's effectively 140MHz

If you have so much as a desktop slideshow or a notification pop up it'll use at least that

[south cliff]

could be wallpaper engine

[dusty cedar]

i dont have or use any of that

its idling at 210mhz right now.

[potent portal]

Point being any little thing could use a tiny bit of power

Even Windows Explorer

[dusty cedar]

maybe im only just noticing it then

been slightly sketched out since i downloaded the steel hunters game thats in alpha testing. that game was pulling 100% on the main menu idling and would drop down to 60-70% in actual gameplay

[cyan ravine]

The OPP on early batches was set to like, 140% or something ridiculous

[potent portal]

140% isn't too ridiculous but it is on the higher end of things. The issue was a bad component that exploded before that.

[cyan ravine]

Yes it wasn't made for 140%

And it is really high lol

It's more normal for 110-130% OPP

But a huge batch of them were defective

I had one

It died but didn't take anything with it

[potent portal]

I had 4, I blew up 2 of them and 1 was DOA

[cyan ravine]

Bruv that sounds like science

[potent portal]

I still have 1 in active use (in a PC with no GPU)

[cyan ravine]

Yeah actively in a situation where it's far from harm lmao

[potent portal]

I really made sure wegg paid for the mistake of forcing me to buy it with my GPU lol

[cyan ravine]

I have an early batch 750gm still too, it's packed away

I was shocked after the news came out about it, it was in my 3080 prebuilt

[potent portal]

Who in their right mind bundles a P750GM with a 3090 and doesn't expect it to pop

[cyan ravine]

It was the dark times

[potent portal]

Indeed. The "if you list it, they will buy" times.

[cyan ravine]

That 750gm I could use for a igpu system

I never thought of that

Big smart

Can't sell it but I maybe could be smart about it

[potent portal]

You could sell it to someone that wants to light some fireworks

[cyan ravine]

Here's the funny part

I upgrade to 850gm because my.750gm was tripping via transients

Then my 850gm literally dies

Then I made a smart choice and went with an 850 rmx

[potent portal]

Same as me lol

Can't go wrong with it

[cyan ravine]

I was playing with fire man

Had no idea

Then like, a few months later GN starts the drama about it

And I'm sweating bullets

[potent portal]

That's part of the issue I have with the bundle, they did the shuffle bundle AFTER the drama started. So it was known to have issues, and they still packed it with a 3090.

[cyan ravine]

Indeed they did

Well a lot of the top bois of newegg are gone now

May have taken that with them

[potent portal]

Yes there seems to be a bit of a revolving door thing going. Most of Steve's contacts are long gone.

GN Steve, not monitor Steve or Nvidia Steve

Too many Steves

[cyan ravine]

Ya ofc

I'm just happy I didn't lose that god damn card LMAO

[south cliff]

i got the rm 850

[cyan ravine]

Ye rm's are good

Rmx is like, one step below hx/axi

Which is basically, the gold standard

Iirc RM's are RMx's but with less cable capacitance

So still great

[potent portal]

They're the same cables, it's the interior that's slightly different and the fan is better on the x

[cyan ravine]

Ah ok

[flint sapphire]

[cyan ravine]

[cyan ravine]

It is unless you find the 3600 for like, 80$ used

Jeeez

The heck u at

Ooof

70 euro? Yeah not really worth that much

But if prices are that tough there I'd consider used if possible

For 3600?

100 is ok

5600 tho I'd aim for 150 at most

No used

Lol

170 sounds good

Not great but good

Ah if you have to drive then nah

3600 for 100 sounds good

It's not, great

Lol

But some countries be like that

It's basically new price usa

Hm

What's the price of 12100f

100 euro?

Ah pain

6600 for 200-250 sounds great tho

Considering the price of ryzen that's good

6600 is regularly 220-240-ish in usa

It dipped as low as 180 at one point

Ah

Lolol

I think so

[exotic plank]

Why does my pc keep saying this after I put in new ram

[south cliff]

try diffrent slot

[exotic plank]

It’s says memory pmu teaming error at socket 0 channel1 0 DIMM 0 DIMM1 1

[south cliff]

try diffrent slot

[elder river]

Did not take into account the size of the cpu cooler