building-and-recc-chat

[zenith cargo]

now

[potent portal]

All you really needed to do was enable PBO but if it's still boosting then maybe they fixed the issues with previous versions of that auto oc

With a bit of tuning and luck you could get it to stay at 5GHz more and peak at 5.1

[zenith cargo]

how do i enable pbo

[obsidian wigeon]

pbo is in the bios itself

[potent portal]

AMD Overclocking menu under advanced CPU settings for MSI, other brands are similar

[zenith cargo]

Ight

Ima compare my current settings

Cuz I get more fps after I changed some cod files

I get 220 now

[potent portal]

Much better then. Sounds like it's a success.

[jagged ember]

Nice

[runic spruce]

Yea and use an alcohol above 90 percent

[little osprey]

Would that be difficult to put together?

Finding parts an all for a reasonable price

[verbal plover]

I'm scared for summer

my temps are already like 85c when gaming

won't they get worse in summer

[little osprey]

Uhhhh, not really

Your PC produces the heat and outside heat really doesn't effect temps

However like I said the heat that your PC produces may effect the heat of the room

[verbal plover]

yes I can feel that lmao

it fr heats up the entire room

[little osprey]

My brother had a buddy who's PC literally was a hotbox

Nice in the Winter

But uhhhhh

[verbal plover]

summer will be interesting

[little osprey]

Sleeping with it in the Summer ain't fun

[verbal plover]

I have my pc in another room so that won't affect me as much

[verbal plover]

better to wait so u don't just have a bare motherboard sitting out

(in my opinion)

but yeah I understand its tempting to start without everything

[little osprey]

You can, just set the motherboard on top of your motherboard box or something so it's not gonna get damaged

Don't set up the GPU though

Wait for the case to come, then mount the motherboard and then mount the GPU

But putting the RAM, CPU, and CPU fan on the motherboard before the case comes should be fine

[rich void]

You can test everything outside of the case first to make sure it works, but I've always just waited for the case to arrive and accepted I'd have wasted a bunch of time if any parts were doa

Could easily mount CPU, ram, and any nvme ssds without the case if you want

[leaden mauve]

what are you cleaning

[obsidian wolf]

Hey guys

'do yah think I should use xmp

I been thinking about it but since I stook to the 650w

I don't know if the psu will be able to hold it

[rich void]

Yes

[potent portal]

The memory uses a negligible amount of power. Turning on XMP makes it go from about 8W to 10W, give or take.

[obsidian wolf]

Aight

[regal shard]

Wtf? XD

Is that coming from your pc? 💀

[formal girder]

Quick question since I'm in need of a new psu and won't be getting another 1000w Im thinking I can be safe with an 850w with my configuration with no oc on 12700K and prolly won't oc the 3080 and was wondering what psu is currently recommended at the lowest price cause I've seen $120-130usd

[potent portal]

You'll be fine on a good 850W https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-850f14hg-850w/p/1HU-024C-00005

PSU prices are pretty ridiculous right now

[formal girder]

Ok so that was the one I kept second guessing cause of the naming scheme but alright that's my target for new psu and yeah I noticed

Went up at the worst time when my suffered

[potent portal]

That's an A tier unit even if it is a somewhat older model

[formal girder]

And how is the Gigabyte B760 gaming x ax ddr4 in regards to anything to keep eye out for as that's the board I'm planning to get as well

[potent portal]

Should be good but remember that DDR4 can hold back a 13th gen chip if you upgrade

[olive cypress]

Yeah, it makes a lot of weird noises whenever it detects some sort of error

[formal girder]

I'm on 12th gen and won't upgrade from here won't have reason to go 13th gen

[south cliff]

debug noises im pretty sure

does it boot

[olive cypress]

Yeah, like no HDD detected, system diagnostics complete, and other stuff

[olive cypress]

Yep

It made that noise because I fried the hdd I was trying to boot from

[south cliff]

lol how

[olive cypress]

Got some sort of voltage regulator to get 5v out of the 12v (the PSU only has 12v outputs) and the knob that regulates tension got slightly moved and outputted like 6v

[south cliff]

did you get a ssd like your name says

[olive cypress]

And the hdd didn't really like that

[south cliff]

is it a oem psu

[olive cypress]

Sort of
I got a sas SSD inside the server but I can't get it to work till the hba itself starts working

[olive cypress]

Yeah, dell oem

[south cliff]

probably why it fried

[olive cypress]

Top left is the ssd

Down on the right there's the 5v output i made

This ^

[south cliff]

why

[olive cypress]

I told you, to get 5volt to make each hdd/SSD run

They require both 12v and 5v to work

[south cliff]

the power supply doesn't give it?

[olive cypress]

Nope

The motherboard converts 5v and 3.3 for the (one) SATA ssd, hdd and nvme+ dvd

There was a header on the mb that had 5v but I didn't really trust it as I have to pull like 15w out of it, you never know what could happen, like fan headers that are made to output 1.5A max (usually)

[south cliff]

seems like alot of work to get a hdd and a ssd to run

or is it like a server type of thing

[olive cypress]

Yeah, it's actually 4hdds and one SSD for now but I could always change the config

[south cliff]

wow

thats alot

[olive cypress]

Yeah, I want it to be both a Nas and use it to host a small Minecraft server

Rn it has a total of 10.5TB of storage but ill have to see if it all works after I get the hba to work

[potent portal]

This is what hot glue was made for, live and learn

I say run Linux instead of Windows. The driver is still in the Linux kernel, and it can do everything you want it to.

[south cliff]

Hey should i buy this broken ailenware pc that has a ryzen 9 5900 and a 6800xt and 32gb of ram it just says it doesn't post but its a bid

its at 400 right now

seems like it has been dropped

[potent portal]

Best case something shook loose and can be reattached, worst case it was running when it was dropped and PSU went POOF

Either way that would be a fun project for the right price to try to see what can be salvaged

[south cliff]

yeah i was thinking tha to i wil see if i can get it but if its out of my budget i wont get it

[potent portal]

At the very least the CPU and the memory should be ok

[south cliff]

yeah i mean i got everything to test it out with

hopfully just gotta reseat something

[potent portal]

GPU might have damage around the PCIe slot from shock

SSDs probably fine, HDD might be ded

[south cliff]

its a 4tb ssd

[potent portal]

You could drop a SSD from a 3 story building and as long as there's no physical damage it'll still run

[south cliff]

if it is the gpu is it still a good buy?

and it does have free shipping and returns

[potent portal]

Well you can get a 5900X for $300 used

32gb memory is $75 new

Used SSD maybe $150

I'd say those would be the things that are basically guaranteed to work unless there's obvious physical damage near them

So I'd bid that auction up to around $500

[south cliff]

ok

[potent portal]

If the GPU is fine and it's just the motherboard then you've got a nice profit

[south cliff]

yeah i would have to find someone to see if its the cpu and test it out i dont got a am4 motherboard

[potent portal]

CPUs are really hard to kill

It would need to have bent pins, which the socket is meant to protect

[south cliff]

yeah thats what i was thinking

im thinking it could be cpu that camer out of socket

gpu*

[potent portal]

That's possible, the PCI lock isn't exactly sturdy

Also maybe a power cable loosened

[south cliff]

but i dont know if it did get dropped

it just kinda look like it

bt im looking at the gpu slot in the back and it doesent seemed to be moved

but top is damaged

this the back

[potent portal]

I found the listing. It sure looks like it was dropped on the top, or something was dropped on it.

I'd consider the cooler a lost cause, looks like a radiator up there maybe

Not that Dell's 120mm AIO is worth keeping anyway

All in all I'd consider it a good candidate for a transplant.

Too bad there's no internal shots

Oh the shop resells amazon returns, makes sense. Maybe it was damaged in shipping!

[south cliff]

hopefully no one find it and snags it before i do

[south cliff]

wdym

[potent portal]

Open case pictures

To see if there's internal damage

[south cliff]

oh

i could proboably ask

but it still got the wrapping seal on the outsde

[potent portal]

I think that it's shipping damage, which would honestly be a best case scenario

[south cliff]

same he has other listings like a 12600k and a 3070

a skytech one

i asked him

for pics of the inside

[obsidian wolf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yz4Rcb

My crazy friend wants an all white build this is what I put up for him

Also don't mind the cpu cooler, he wants to see the numbers in it as well and it has to be white as well.... so I was only left with take away all my cash nzxt

3000$ was the mark so I pulled this

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g7KCTn

For 3k you can do a full 4090 build...

[obsidian wolf]

not a white one

the only 4090 I saw white costed over 2500$

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FF7cwc

[mossy venture]

$1770 for a white 4090

[obsidian wolf]

where?

[mossy venture]

In the list I just linked

$300 for an aio is insane, especially when the ls720 outperforms it at the same price. You can add in a small Lcd display for $60

The psu is just as good for half the price

[obsidian wolf]

link to the lcd pls

[mossy venture]

64gb of ram is useless for gaming, it's actually counter productive especially when it's 4x16

I'd come back and ask about the lcd tommorow, Pato, orange mushroom, or Felix could help you with that better than I could

Orange has one in his pc he did himself, the other two know how

[obsidian wolf]

Mmmm, I see... For the 64gb of ram it would have been for his content creation rather than gaming on that little part.

[mossy venture]

I'd get a 2x32 kit then, but what is his content creation?

[obsidian wolf]

I know that 64gb is not require

[obsidian wolf]

Editing videos and streaming.

[mossy venture]

32gb would be plenty then, imo it's really not worth the premium when he likely will never exceed 25gb usage

[obsidian wolf]

got ya

[mossy venture]

I streamed warzone with chrome, obs, and discord open and was fine on 16gb ram

[obsidian wolf]

damnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

meanwhile me with only discord and r6 open consuming 21gb and 25 sometimes

:V

[mossy venture]

I've since gone to 32gb, and never seen over 23gb usage while streaming

[mossy venture]

Gah damn what kinda malware and bloatware you got running in the background

[obsidian wolf]

I do not know

haven't download anything outside of actual stuff

[mossy venture]

Can check task manager to see

[obsidian wolf]

from actual apps

[mossy venture]

A lot of apps like to run in the background

Most game launches like steam and epic, any softwares for peripherals normally do

[obsidian wolf]

right now r6 is close

only discord

firefox

[mossy venture]

If you hit the more details button, you can see what is using how much ram

[obsidian wolf]

and spotify on

[mossy venture]

If you haven't already

Can you send a ss of all of task manager?

[mossy venture]

Top left go back to the main page

Background processes, look through what's eating ram

[potent portal]

28 firefox processes

[mossy venture]

Didn't even see that

Jesus

[potent portal]

And UBM using 8% in the background?!

[mossy venture]

Also another good point

You have UBM running constantly in the background

Also Norton is not a good anti virus, it's worse than windows defender

[mossy venture]

And consumes resources in the background

[potent portal]

Buncha youtube windows will eat that memory yep

[obsidian wolf]

I was thinking about switching to a one from a Russian company

forgot their name

saw they where quite the good

[mossy venture]

The only one I recommend is malwarebytes

[potent portal]

Kaspersky?

NO

[obsidian wolf]

but ostracize by american politicians

[mossy venture]

Kaspersky is even worse

Literally one of the worst anti viruses available

[obsidian wolf]

really

[mossy venture]

Worse than avast iirc

[obsidian wolf]

:V

[potent portal]

Kaspersky literally sends all your data to the Russian government

[mossy venture]

My dad used to pay for a license from them

[obsidian wolf]

That was the argument

I saw

[mossy venture]

I ended up having to reinstall windows from the viruses I got that it failed to block

[obsidian wolf]

mmm

[mossy venture]

Which is also partially my fault due to being a stupid kid

[obsidian wolf]

:v

[mossy venture]

But still, windows defender handled it fine after that

[dusty cedar]

and people were talkin to me about l connect 3 being "bloatware" and here we are in 2023 with people downloading "anti virus" programs still

[obsidian wolf]

Looking to studying cybersecurity next semester, proceeds to get bombasted on which anti virus options are actually good and which are not

[mossy venture]

lol

[obsidian wolf]

I guess my name is intuitive though

MONKY

[mossy venture]

Malwarebytes is great tho, and windows defender certainly does its job very well

[potent portal]

I honestly just let Windows Defender handle my AV, plus adblock on everything, noscript on sites I don't trust

[mossy venture]

Imo not worth paying for an AV unless you have very important info on your computer

[potent portal]

Like classified by the military or multi million dollar business access codes level important

[obsidian wolf]

I mean you still have the issue that no where in the internet your data is safe, in the end there's no other options besides eating it up sometimes.

Really looking forward on how ai will be use for all this processes and see if information will be actually protectable in the near future.

[potent portal]

AI could revolutionize antivirus but it would also add so many security holes. It would need to be totally sandboxed.

[obsidian wolf]

And it's not like the recent "banning on Tiktok" legislation is only about banning tiktok

[potent portal]

Not just tiktok but also other apps and programs owned/run by the Chinese gov

[obsidian wolf]

Governments only needed one thing and that citizens giving up on information protection, since the growing generations will probably have most of their info online in the incoming years it was only time before information became accessible from any place at any point, don't get me wrong, already is but it's not like they where going to search for it in the first place unless you was someone important, now is gonna be all there, important, unimportant etc etc.

[obsidian wolf]

Is the issue really the chinese gov, or that we can not controlled them ourselves?

Facebook does it, Twitter does it... We are just caring about it now because is a chinese company.

[potent portal]

That is part of the issue, the other part is we don't know what they're using that data for

Fear of the unknown and all that

[obsidian wolf]

The data has been sold for the past years but now we can see people voting based on online legislations questions such as "is our government really protecting our privacy online" popping up etc, but have our information in the past being protected by the governments when there's literal algorithms tracking every step there is to make shopping online quote on quote more accessible.

[potent portal]

Oh yeah no these old men have no idea how tech works

[obsidian wolf]

It was funny to watch. Poor CFO of TikTok legit hearing all the absurdity and all the bs that was coming to him and when he wanted to answer they would just say "no, we are going forward"

[obsidian wolf]

That's exactly the thing they don't know! but they still have the power to legislated and that's the issue.

[potent portal]

Yep

[obsidian wolf]

and all your options is either voting for the older "best" or the older "bad" depending on your values and societal expectations....

[potent portal]

The illusion of choice really

[obsidian wolf]

There's no choice in truth

almost like we never had an option but we believed the p drama on the tv

[potent portal]

There's really no excuse for us to not have a direct democracy these days. Just abolish congress already smh.

[obsidian wolf]

jajajjaaj

Impossible besides the more participation the better just the wrong implementation I would say

[potent portal]

At least the senate, if not all of congress

The senate is really unbalanced, how states like Rhode Island have the same power as states like California

[obsidian wolf]

I would argue that there could be fixes to the system rather than abolishing it completely because the later takes to much time to rebuild for a quote on quote better system, so rather than walk into certain uncertainty if you know what I mean, how about we try to fix the wheel and give it a chance...

Or at least try to solve the clear issues there is out there.

[potent portal]

The trick to fixing the system is making sure they can't fix the system

[obsidian wolf]

Well the system is run by old heads, obviously the system cant change without new blood in there to make practical changes.

I only hope that as I get older I see people that represent me more, because studying to live in a decadent society doesn't seem like a dream lmao.

[potent portal]

Well we'd better shift the topic at risk of becoming too political here. Even though it has been pretty neutral so far.

[obsidian wolf]

Yeh yeh understandable nice chat though!

[potent portal]

Likewise

@tired isle That case looks like a prime candidate for a Lego GPU support, or something else homemade or recycled.

[tired isle]

Yea I have been considering it, I was using a old medication bottle when I first got the GPU but I took it out and misplaced it lol

[strong raft]

99% negative pressure? (unless the rad fans are reverse flow models, but I don't think so)

[tired isle]

Yea I kinda forgot about that lmao, when I was replacing my motherboard I had to take my aio out from the top and as a temp fix I kept the fans facing the same way

I honestly might fix it tonight as I was putting in an SSD when I took that picture and the sata cable I am using I am not fully confident in being in working condition as I had a few fail on me a few years ago. So if the sata cable is bad Ill just fix the fans while I am at it

Not even my bios sees the SSD so time to fix that and fans lmao

[tired isle]

Thanks for reminding me, I have fixed them when I should have fixed them months ago lmao

[strong raft]

Bet at least gpu temps drop a bit from some actual airflow, aha. Could add a 2nd full cable for gpu, butnot a huge deal

[tired isle]

Next time I am messing with my cables I will add a second cable for it

Shockingly though I never really had any temp issues with that configuration

[strong raft]

It's a good cooler

[tired isle]

Yea fair enough

Its probably why I forgot about it for so long

[still fiber]

Turn to the side between using one of these two existing cases that are older, or buying a new case for my build

Trying to decide

Have a silver stone SG 13 with the front panel usb-c upgrade

The other one is a main gearshift that has some broken panel parts that would have to rig up. And it is very old-school and the fact that as fire wire 400 on the front panel. It is also based off of Silverstone Raven original case the RV 01.

[olive cypress]

I did think of that but then I forgot to apply some

• I'd probably prefer win server2012 as I'm more comfortable with windows environment, + I want to make the server accessible (or at least the folders) from other windows devices and I don't want to make things more complicated

there are drivers for that and if I'm more comfortable with one instead of the other I should go for win

[potent portal]

That's fair but I should also point out there's tons of ways to host files for Windows users on Linux. I have a samba server on mine.

[olive cypress]

I could try installing both, and I choose which os to use at startup, I'll keep win10, install server 2012 and Linux or something similar

[formal girder]

So a friend gave me a budget for a sub $400 itx PC just for printing out designs on to shirts and printing vinyl designs which she did on a Chromebook and I wanna see if this is a good start https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VPsRcb

[obsidian wigeon]

Bleh, I can do better than that

Gimme a sec

Wait it's itx, ah well

Can still do something about it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZxgdLs @formal girder Do this instead

That A520 is more expensive than a better B550

I doubt your friend needs 1tb for this use

The PSU is C tier, better than what came with the case you chose

[formal girder]

I had it there just for headroom due to their software constantly updating

I'm also so used to blowing through 2tb of storage at a time so yeah lol

[obsidian wigeon]

That's still plenty if they don't run games on it

[formal girder]

Yeah they don't PC game at all

[dry tinsel]

games are what takes up space mostly

even modest stuff being like 35GB at this point

[formal girder]

Yeah that's true

Hopefully soon when my PC is back up I'll be ready to play around with power of UE 5.2

And I'm gonna have to get a whole separate drive for those projects

[obsidian wigeon]

I do want a bigger drive, but I don't have anymore space to add lol

[fossil cedar]

@formal girder I'd do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xW9qtn

[obsidian wigeon]

Hm, that's better too

I wasn't thorough enough kek

[fossil cedar]

Yeah not really much point paying for 3600mhz or a 670p or a better case also psu is similar perf so might as well spend less

[little osprey]

What's that for?

[fossil cedar]

@little osprey ^

[little osprey]

Ah okay

[hollow steeple]

When the GTX 980 TI was the best GPU what was the CPU?

[empty pollen]

a 4790 maybe

[obsidian wigeon]

4790K is all I can think from the top of my head

[obsidian wolf]

so what was the lcd?

[obsidian wigeon]

you meant the best monitor in 2013?

lol i dunno honestly if it's your question

[fossil cedar]

Technically you could argue up to a 6700k

[obsidian wolf]

no a conv i had last night

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7VWYsL

Looking for a motherboard that can handle some simple overclocking

Perferably a Z690

Unless there's a B660M that works too

Only requirement is wifi

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T9KJKp

Cooler is identical, just rgb and cheaper

Mobo doesn't come with wifi, will need a separate adapter

[little osprey]

Hmmmmm

[mossy venture]

Cheapest with wifi is $171 or smthn like that, aside from the mitx asrock z690 that I would not go for

You can only oc on a z690 or z790

B660s don't allow it

[little osprey]

So how would a wifi card work then?

[mossy venture]

@fossil cedar input on a wifi card plox?

[little osprey]

Also would I be able to sync the CPU fan color with the case fan color?

[fossil cedar]

hm?

plox?

[stoic island]

Grab a random pcie ax200 card

[little osprey]

TBH yeah you're right

My wifi is garbage

[stoic island]

Ax200 is about as good as you can get anyways

Should be able to find a pcie card for like 30$

[analog hearth]

weird alternative, but GL.iNet is a company that makes portable routers. they’re about $40, have Ethernet, and they can also act as a WAP

[limber oyster]

What do the emojis under my pic mean?

[potent portal]

If I had to guess it's probably a comment on how the fans aren't attached

[limber oyster]

Ahh

Well I'm still waiting for radiators so....

[regal shard]

you wanna bring air into the case. ur Aio pump a fans are blowing it out

thats it looks like

I would want fresh air to go into the pump

[potent portal]

His is the bottom pic

[regal shard]

of it want to push air into the case. youd t put the rad facing toward inside with the fans blowing air from the out

[regal shard]

ohh

nvm

yeah what he said

[mossy venture]

Old term for please

Prolly a minecraft thing

[dusty cedar]

scratch that, i was lookin at a dif pic. i'm going back to bed

[fossil cedar]

ahh id probably just get a built in one or anything with ax200 tbh

[dry tinsel]

hey @upbeat bison where did you find that StarMax?

those things are so uncommon.

I've wanted one for a long time

iirc they use VGA for a mac compatible clone which during 68k days was kinda cool

[limber oyster]

I'm having top and bottom radiators. Just waiting one radiators to install the other 6 fans.

[strong wolf]

hello

my pc won't post
I have tried: resetting cmos, unplugging and replugging, switching the ram including running each of the individually in different slots, pressing the reset button on the case and trying my monitors one at a time. Also if I remove the gpu the same thing happens on the motherboard so it's not that
That would mean either the motherboard or cpu is faulty but the dram light comes on and not the cpu light
so I'm inclined to think my motherboard is broken

for context this pc is about a year old

the last thing I did on it was play hollow knight then hibernate it

[limber oyster]

Should've gone Asus(jk)

But, you should try and see if you can RMA it

[strong wolf]

I will literally buy a new motherboard today if i have to

idk what rma means give me a second to look it up

[limber oyster]

Basically warrenty it

[strong wolf]

it's 1.5 years old do u think it'll still be in warranty

[limber oyster]

Can't hurt to contact support and ask

[strong wolf]

Alright I will do that

[limber oyster]

They might need serial number and such

[strong wolf]

i don't have the box with me rn bc im in a dorm though

ok

sorry

this fricking sucks

[limber oyster]

Should be on the board

[strong wolf]

i see

ill try to call them then and the place where i got all the parts from

[limber oyster]

What board and CPU do you currently have?

[strong wolf]

MSI MAG B550M MORTAR WIFI

ryzen 7 3700x

[limber oyster]

Ahh

If you had to buy a new one what are your requirements for a new board? Number of USB slots, nvme slots, wifi, etc?

Budget too

[obsidian wolf]

Most motherboards have a guarantee some have 2 years guarantee

If yours is Msi I recommend talking with them

I haven’t done the process in any other company but the Msi process do require you to know specific information in the box of your motherboard

[strong wolf]

I went to the store and apparantly the warranty is 1 year on the mobo and not 2

i may be wrong though

I can't really afford to wait on this so if it's in warranty I'll send it back and then resell it or something

[zenith cargo]

@potent portal any tips if I should manually oc my gpu to get a higher usage on 1080p?

[potent portal]

1080p probably isn't even using the full GPU power

But you can max out the power and temp limits so it boosts more and call it good

[mossy venture]

Not using full usage means ocing gpu would do nothing/not much

[potent portal]

Right, if the GPU isn't at 95%+ then you're CPU bound, or some other thing.

[zenith cargo]

ig im cpu bound then

on multiplayer it uses 75-85%

and on battle royale only like 65-80

[mossy venture]

What cpu and gpu do you have

[zenith cargo]

5800x

6900xt

[dusty cedar]

what game

[zenith cargo]

mw2

[mossy venture]

Yeah that sounds plausible, especially if you have slow ram

Mw2 is very cpu heavy

[zenith cargo]

32gb 3600mhz

16 sum sum

16 18 idk

[mossy venture]

Do you have xmp enabled?

Even if you do, it does make sense

[zenith cargo]

ya

[mossy venture]

Mw2 is very cpu heavy as I said

[zenith cargo]

o

so change cpu then

save up then

?

[mossy venture]

Not really necessary

[zenith cargo]

oc?

[mossy venture]

It still performs great, even if it is limiting you

[potent portal]

You'll always be limited by something

[mossy venture]

If your game experience is good enough for your standards, don't bother wasting monry

Money

[zenith cargo]

130 - 140 frames in battle royale 💀

[mossy venture]

In warzone 2?

[zenith cargo]

yup

[potent portal]

Doing a bit of PBO tuning could get you a few more frames

[zenith cargo]

low settings

[mossy venture]

That's about right, that's a bit higher than I get with my 13600k and 3060 ti

[zenith cargo]

😭

spent 500 to get the same frames with my 3060 but just crispier graphics

😭

[obsidian wolf]

that's weird

Mine for example has a 2 year msi warranty

[potent portal]

Average FPS game moment

[zenith cargo]

🫠

[cunning dome]

is there a way i can get a good pc under $2000

[potent portal]

You can get a top tier PC for that

Or are you asking for a parts list?

[cunning dome]

parts list please

[potent portal]

Ok one minute. Or someone else can make one while I'm busy.

[cunning dome]

take all the time you need

[potent portal]

Ok, that's $2000 USD, only including the PC and not peripherals? Do you want CPU overclocking support?

[cunning dome]

no, nothing too advanced

[dusty cedar]

top tier is subjective. top tier would include a rtx 4090 and that leaves 0 for anything else lol

[potent portal]

If you count a "tier" as being a single item sure

So yes very subjective

[dusty cedar]

cheapest 4090 i can find right now is 1600. that leaves no meat on the bones for anything else. maybe a cheap cpu or cheap mobo. nothing to power it and nothing to put it in, no storage, no memory.

top tier to me is top of the line

[potent portal]

Personally "top tier" includes the top 3

[dusty cedar]

i have a higher end mid range pc i would say and i spent 2400 on it not including anything else. just basic components

i did pay like 200 for my case though so theres that

[potent portal]

Well here's what I came up with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WJ6M9r

Sometimes the case really is worth that. I got the Torrent myself. Full build in my "about me".

[dusty cedar]

i spent a lot on things that look nice over financial practicality

[potent portal]

I'm more of a function over form. There's a certain point where you won't get much more function out of it, and that's where I start spending extra on form.

[dusty cedar]

im pushing well over 800 fps on some games and im limiting it on overwatch to 240 with g sync since i run everything on it at ultra or higher if the option is available to me. only pushing 80% load on my gpu and 3% on my cpu at 70c. gpu floats around 71 to 73 during active gameplay and not idle in the menu screen waiting for a match.

[hearty oracle]

How good are laptop batteries now days? I can't seem to find anything on the one I'm looking at right now.

[potent portal]

You could have a max capacity battery (99Wh) and still have terrible battery life

It's more about the other hardware and how you're using it

[hearty oracle]

https://www.newegg.com/obsidian-black-acer-nitro-5-an515-46-r0eq-gaming/p/N82E16834360247

[obsidian wigeon]

Nitro 5's has meh batteries

[hearty oracle]

This is the one. And gaming mixed with 3d modeling mainly. ..

Laptop shopping is hard 😆

[obsidian wigeon]

Also honestly, I think there's probably better laptops than that thing for that price

[heady kayak]

As is the case with every dGPU laptop

[obsidian wigeon]

I meant capacity, but most laptops these days you can also just fully disable dgpu

They pretty much all have mux

[hearty oracle]

Disable must help max out battery life? Never had a laptop with a Gpu so all new to me

[obsidian wigeon]

Yep

Then enable when you use it

The only downside is that you have to restart every time you switch

Unless that laptop has g-sync ultra or something like that, which is another mux that can switch on the fly

[hearty oracle]

Hmm so I'll watch for max.

When you say there are better out there in this price range. Which parts or brand are you meaning?

[obsidian wigeon]

Overclocking is running your hardware higher speed than rated from factory

What is your pc's setup?

[obsidian wigeon]

Something like gigabyte aorus, asus tuf 2022-2023 and legion 5/legion 5 pro

I wouldn't do any oc in that

Just enable pbo

Have you installed any OS on it?

If this is a new build you will need to install an OS

Make a boot media with another pc or laptop. You'll need a usb drive with at least 8 gigs of storage

Nope

The pc has no OS, and the bios couldn't do any of that stuff for you

[dusty cedar]

over clocking also shortens the lifespan of your cpu and you're already asking how to install an operating system....

[obsidian wigeon]

Not really, but if you're not sure don't think about overclocking yet anyway

The cpu already has automatic overclock tech inside, all you have yo do is enable it

Yep, that's the requirement to go forward

It's under cpu overclocking menu in the bios

[dusty cedar]

i wouldn't mess with any settings like that if i were you

[obsidian wigeon]

Should say something like boost overdrive

I forgot what the p stands for

Enabling pbo is completely safe lol

[dusty cedar]

dude didnt even know how to get out of bios and that he needed an os...... i would stay away from doing anything extra if i were him

[obsidian wigeon]

He can't get out of bios cause the pc has no os

Not because of other reasons

[dusty cedar]

^

[obsidian wigeon]

If he exits, it'll just get right back to the bios again

Yeah, and he has no way to install an os yet. That's why

[dusty cedar]

am i the only one getting this or no? i cant be the only one seeing what has already been said am i

[hearty oracle]

Like this one?

https://www.newegg.com/mecha-gray-asus-tuf-gaming-fa507rm-es73/p/N82E16834236233?item=N82E16834236233

[obsidian wigeon]

Can you buy from somewhere other than newegg?

Limiting yourself to one retail will limit your opportunity for deals

[hearty oracle]

I can buy anywhere, just the main site iv been looking at, I didn't even think to check micro center 🤣

[cyan ravine]

Ah TUF my beloved

Greatest laptop 2022

Ya man

CS2 300 fps

GYAT

Dyemm

Ya lol

The 2023 version is better, 2gb more vram, same cpu, thunderbolt 3

4060 stonk

15% uplift

[dusty cedar]

new guy - "Also im stuck in bios settings what do i do
If i exit"
you - "Have you installed any OS on it? If this is a new build you will need to install an OS"

new guy - "How"

you - "Make a boot media with another pc or laptop. You'll need a usb drive with at least 8 gigs of storage"

new guy - "I cant do it on this pc by itself?"

and you're suggesting he go into advanced setting and oc his cpu? lol what?

[cyan ravine]

PBO is completely safe

It's a sanctioned feature of Ryzen by AMD

[frigid night]

@austere condor That build looks sick.

[dusty cedar]

oh

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[austere condor]

thanks 😄

[frigid night]

How much you gonna throw it on the market for?

[austere condor]

probably $800-$900

[frigid night]

nicee

[hearty oracle]

This one seems a bit better?

https://www.microcenter.com/product/663680/asus-tuf-gaming-f17-173-laptop-computer-mecha-gray

[cyan ravine]

That's a very nice one

But if it were me aim for a Ryzen 7000 version or Ryzen 6000 version of the TUF

You can use the eco mode on the laptop and have 10+ hours of battery life

VERY USEFUL WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE AN ACTUAL LAPTOP

The 13th gen ones are cool but the battery performance is eclipsed by new ryzen stuff

[strong raft]

8GB

[frigid night]

It would be best to create a windows install media on an 8gb usb stick and install windows fresh on the new PC. You can then transfer all files you need from the old PC to the new PC.

Ok, then just follow the first sentence.

[gentle pollen]

will any boom arm work for my Razer Seiren V2 Pro mic?

[gloomy agate]

https://howmanyfps.com/pc-builder/valorant?gpu=B09ZPVM8H4&cpu=B0BBJ59WJ4&motherboard=B0BDTJFHKJ&ram=B09RX4NQ3D&ssd=B0B7CKVCCV&psu=B09H3KMQZ6&case=B0B6Y15C5L

what y’all think

[obsidian wigeon]

Gonna be honest here, sorry if it's rude

But no, you can get something much better than that for the same price

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wpf7Q6

This for quick reference

Can change the case and ram if you want that all black clean aesthetics and rgb

But stick to cheapest 3600mhz cl18 kit with rgb, no need for corsair or any of those overpriced crap

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fdbjd9

This is with case and ram that you might still like looks wise, since I'm assuming looks has to be included here

[gloomy agate]

Looks definitely included

[gloomy agate]

Only way i5 is better is because of 2 more cores than 7900x

but the frequency isn’t near that at all so how is it any better?

[obsidian wigeon]

It doesn't matter at all for valorant

Also clock speed isn't everything

[gloomy agate]

That was a reference btw

I’m doing machine learning and artificial intelligence

[obsidian wigeon]

You'd want nvidia gpu then, gimme a sec

[mossy venture]

13700k could be worth then

[obsidian wigeon]

All these stuff are gpu bound

[mossy venture]

Extra cores useful

[obsidian wigeon]

Doesn't really demand much cpu but 13700k definitely useful

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v6BPZw

This is with 13700K and slightly cheaper psu

Oh also nvidia gpu

[mossy venture]

If you prefer the look, g360a is a better case that comes with 3 rgb fans

Imo it looks nicer, but personal preference

H5 flow is still a good enough case

[gloomy agate]

Already ordered the flow lol

[gloomy agate]

Huh.

Same price as my current list

@obsidian wigeon
Everything I want to do
» Gaming (Many titles I want to play I cannot list them all here)
» Rendering
» Artificial Intelligence
» Machine Learning
» 3D Modeling

[obsidian wigeon]

Mmm, this will do well for your needs

[gloomy agate]

I couldn't put it on my list but I'd like to get two SSDs

[obsidian wigeon]

What's your budget anyway?

[gloomy agate]

Just whatever

[obsidian wigeon]

Okay, I'll just put the first ssd up to 2tb and see if you like it

[gloomy agate]

I don't want to spend over $2,500 but I'd like to keep it under $2,000 for the pc itself

[obsidian wigeon]

Alright, then I can do that

PC below 2k

I don't feel like changing anything other than adding storage

[gloomy agate]

Should be fine

WD_Black SN770 2 TB should be alright

[obsidian wigeon]

670P can offer similar performance

But sure, I can add speedier drive if you wish

[gloomy agate]

670P is okay if it's cheaper

[obsidian wigeon]

you can instead get solidigm for around $10 lower than sn770

[gloomy agate]

Sure

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kYLD9r

Alright here it is

two ssds

Both 2TB

[gloomy agate]

Good deal

[fossil cedar]

There's not much reason to go 2 ssds to start these days considering 2tbs and some 4tbs are almost linearly priced or less than the same equivalent in multiple 1tbs

[gloomy agate]

Ye

I was really saying I was gonna do 2, 1tb ssds

@fossil cedar what aio would you recommend?

[fossil cedar]

Not really point in doing that anymore tbh

[flint sapphire]

raid 0 for the meme tho

[mossy venture]

Ls720, liquid freezer ii, lian li galahd, evga clc, lt720

Anything EK

Couple others I'm forgetting probably

[cyan ravine]

LS720 SE

[fossil cedar]

I'd change a few things I'd do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LfD8Dq

[fossil cedar]

Is the se cheaper/better i didn't see it listed on pcpp?

[cyan ravine]

It's just the no rgb fan version iirc

And I don't think it's on there rn

[fossil cedar]

Ah yeah okay you where just mentioning as option got it

[gloomy agate]

I already have the NZXT H5 Flow btw

I think the max front rad size is 280mm

Why that mobo tho? @fossil cedar

[cyan ravine]

Ima bout to blow ur minds

[gloomy agate]

🤯

[fossil cedar]

Can you return it? It's not that great

[fossil cedar]

Good motherboard, lots of usb and stuff, also has wifi and Bluetooth which is nice

[gloomy agate]

Why not?

Airflow?

[cyan ravine]

Ur budget is 1750 ye?

[fossil cedar]

It's airflow is meh

It's fine if you can't return but if you can return it you can do better

Thought it was 1800 but you could be right

[cyan ravine]

Oh wait he said 2k above

Kek

[gloomy agate]

2.5k max

2k for the pc alone

[gloomy agate]

Ofc I can :p

I make sure I buy things that I can return even if I never will, just in case something happens to it or I want/need something different. Like right now.

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hvcc8r @gloomy agate

[gloomy agate]

🤯

🤯 🔫

[cyan ravine]

If you can return the case, swap it for the fractal focus 2 and you're under budget

[gloomy agate]

So not the G360A?

[cyan ravine]

G360A works but you won't be under budget with it

You can also use a peerless assassin cpu cooler but I imagine the cpu would get a bit hot

Might throttle a bit

Eh actually, 219w

It might be able to be handled on a dual tower

[fossil cedar]

Why 128gb rams

[cyan ravine]

Ai and modelling

[gloomy agate]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

You could do 64gb too

It's more a nice to have at this amount

[gloomy agate]

I’m gonna buy a psu from my friend

[cyan ravine]

Which psu

[gloomy agate]

750w is good for that list?

idk yet

gotta ask

[jagged ember]

Model pls

[cyan ravine]

The model matters more than the wattage

[gloomy agate]

Okay sure

[jagged ember]

Wattage and efficiency rating isn't enough info

[gloomy agate]

I’ll find out

Ik cuz of size and other things

Prob ATX size

or whatever

[jagged ember]

That and the quality of the PSU itself

If it's bad it could literally explode

[gloomy agate]

Well ik he’s got quality parts

[jagged ember]

And take out your pc with it

Or have issues under certain situations

[gloomy agate]

Yeah 3d printer psu almost went kaboom

[jagged ember]

Damn

[gloomy agate]

This did instead

[cyan ravine]

THE POWERBOARD

[gloomy agate]

Anyways he’s not answering

I’ll go with what you have on the list

[cyan ravine]

Yeah better off

[gloomy agate]

Hm

I’m not buying this all at once so y’all know

It’s gonna be over time

So I’m good with a little price difference between my budget and the price

[cyan ravine]

It's not that

It's that for a spec this high you really want just a top shelf psu choice

[gloomy agate]

No no

I’m not talking about psu right now

[cyan ravine]

O

[gloomy agate]

Np

[cyan ravine]

Pato I'll rebuttle u in a minute

[gloomy agate]

I understand I want a good quality psu so my house stays intact

[fossil cedar]

Ai doesn't really need ram they'll be able to accelerate with cuda which will be faster than cpu, modelling fair although i still feel 64gb would be plenty

[cyan ravine]

Ye, as I said it's more a nice to have

[gloomy agate]

64 should be more than enough

[cyan ravine]

You can def use 128gb in modelling tho

[fossil cedar]

Yeah exactly

Fair

[cyan ravine]

Lemme clean it up

[gloomy agate]

eh yeah fair enough

i’m good with 128 as long as it’s under/on budget

I just wanna make sure y’all can agree on one case because I’m new to building a PC and want to make sure I’ve got the right cooling solutions

If the G360A has better cooling then the H5 I’ll go ahead and get that

Price isn’t a huge issue to me, more or less getting a quality product with a good price point that’ll hold for years to come

[gloomy agate]

If you have the time please DM me as I don’t get notifs from servers

When you finish up

[cyan ravine]

DM's are closed but have a ping
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bjD8Dq

[gloomy agate]

👍

Bro

Y’all are gonna make me shoot my foot

[cyan ravine]

It's ironic

[gloomy agate]

You just sent the list to my build

That’s what I was going with originally

[cyan ravine]

Eh not really

Different quality choices

[gloomy agate]

Eh okay fair

[cyan ravine]

I wouldn't normally recommend a 7900x but the board cost for the ddr5 on 13700K makes this worth it for the maybe 5% loss

[gloomy agate]

Okay

[cyan ravine]

Otherwise it looks like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hN4CH2

Which is basically 2.5% more cash for 5% more perf and better modelling performance

Either way it's like, in ways that are plenty fast tho, so it's a matter of where you want to land on budget

[gloomy agate]

Hm

+$50 for better performance

🤷‍♂️

[cyan ravine]

What's the other 500 for anyway

[gloomy agate]

Accessories ofc

I can get the other stuff through my dad

Well the monitor I can

He can get Lenovo discounts through his job

[cyan ravine]

Take me through your thoughts, what kinda accessories

Cos like, a little trim on those I'd easily chuck that extra 50$ on the pc

[gloomy agate]

Monitor, Monitor Mount, Keyboard, Mouse

I’ll send my list for you

[cyan ravine]

Monitor I'd recommend with that is a 210$ 1440p 165hz

If that helps

Idk what lenovo goodness is comin tho

[gloomy agate]

That’s basically what I’ve got listed

165hz 1080p

[cyan ravine]

Nah you want 1440p

1080p is too weak for this card

[gloomy agate]

Oh ok

[cyan ravine]

Lemme add a couple accessories on, you tell me what you think

[gloomy agate]

»ASUS TUF Gaming VG27VH1B
»Mount-it! Full Motion Display Wall Mount (getting 2)
»NZXT Lift (Black)
»Corsair K70 RGB PRO

[cyan ravine]

Ah sad the monitor I had in mind ended the sale

[gloomy agate]

If you can cut down on the keyboard that’ll give you more for the monitor

Wrist rest is a must

[cyan ravine]

@gloomy agate how much are the vesa mounts

Damn I'm 60 over budget

[gloomy agate]

$33 each

[gloomy agate]

Yo what do you have

[cyan ravine]

Ok I'm $4 under budget

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FzTHC6

[jagged ember]

noo not the h5 flow

toilet bowl case

[frigid night]

The z15 is a pretty solid board.

[cyan ravine]

Ah yeah I just did a recheck of reviews on the H5 @gloomy agate and it's a lot worse than I remember

[frigid night]

Nvm, they jumped back up in price.

[cyan ravine]

If you can return it for G360A or Focus 2 the get that, one sec I'll post another list

[jagged ember]

maybe something like the lancool 215?

[frigid night]

Yeah cuz $5 more can get the lancool 216 or 4000D airflow

Nvm

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZGCyY9 @gloomy agate

Cg560

Focus 2 doesn't like the 280 rad

But is ok cg560 is decent

[gloomy agate]

bought the g360a

[cyan ravine]

Alr 😂

[gloomy agate]

[cyan ravine]

Like this then https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G4bjd9

[gloomy agate]

Honestly

[cyan ravine]

I'd save up for a keyboard rest

[gloomy agate]

I’m gonna go the intel route you suggested before

[cyan ravine]

Alr

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GrFdZw then get like a 75% keyboard rest

Actually keychron sells them for that keyboard

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-keyboard-wooden-palm-rest

They also have a black resin version

Glorious has one too, in the "compact" size, that's memory foam I think @gloomy agate

https://www.gloriousgaming.com/products/glorious-gaming-keyboard-wrist-rest-padded

Just so you have a few options for what you think might be preferred or comfortable

Alr I think we're pretty much sorted now

Ima head to bed

[gloomy agate]

okay dude

i need to go anyways

[cyan ravine]

[gloomy agate]

Thank you for the help

[obsidian wolf]

Felix I heard that you know about lcd that gave computer info so people didn't have to buy super expensive aio just to see the numbers on the screen.

[cyan ravine]

Ya

[distant musk]

Is this any good

[fossil cedar]

oh you can just buy like an 8" screen or whatever from amazon, something like this https://www.amazon.com/HMTECH-Raspberry-Pi-Monitor-Non-Touch/dp/B09MFNLRQQ/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2OUSZDWZUQK3D&keywords=8"+lcd&qid=1679853471&sprefix=8+lcd%2Caps%2C175&sr=8-3

[fossil cedar]

its decent but depends on the price if its good or not

[cyan ravine]

Grab an old android/apple phone, then hook it up to the pc with a usb, then download superdisplay on both the phone and pc

Or do Pato's idea

[distant musk]

76$

It’s Either it or a fsp non modular

[fossil cedar]

if youre in the Us thats a bad price

[distant musk]

I’m not

[fossil cedar]

where?

[distant musk]

Qatar

[fossil cedar]

ahh

what model is the fsp?

[distant musk]

One second

Or this.

[fossil cedar]

get the GT

[distant musk]

No warranty though

Pretty much not worth it if I wanna rma

[fossil cedar]

GT is way better anyway

hyper K sucks

[distant musk]

Shipping would probably cost more than the cost itself

[fossil cedar]

the gt?

well the hyper k sucks

[distant musk]

Yeah.

[fossil cedar]

the hexa might be fine

although only 500w

[distant musk]

Is it enough for 5600x & 6600

16gb ram

[fossil cedar]

itd be fine

[obsidian wigeon]

that's enough

should be okay

[distant musk]

so hyper m won’t blow up or fry my parts right

[obsidian wigeon]

don't get hyper

get the hexa

hyper is the bad one

[distant musk]

I meant hexa

[fossil cedar]

you mean hexa ?

ah

hexa should be fine

although i can only find hexa pro as a refrence

[distant musk]

Alright, thank you

[fossil cedar]

so hope its that

[distant musk]

Mustard cables though

Any way I could change their appearance

[obsidian wigeon]

You can buy extension cables

[distant musk]

It’s non modular

[obsidian wigeon]

Extension cables are cables that you plug the psu cables into

You can hide the psu cables lol

[distant musk]

Could you send a image?

[obsidian wigeon]

They look just like cables

Just well, an extension

[distant musk]

Are you sure they plug into the cables

[obsidian wigeon]

I am

They're called extension for a reason

[distant musk]

Which ones should I get

Like what type

[obsidian wigeon]

6+2 pin gpu and 4 pin cpu cables

[distant musk]

which one is more visible

[obsidian wigeon]

The gpu connector

[dim forge]

thoughts on cosair h55 surround?

[stoic island]

Don't get it

Corsair headsets are all kinda bad

[dim forge]

what about tuf h1

[stoic island]

Probably also bad

Do like cloud ii or cooler master mh751

[dim forge]

https://a.co/d/cPATDwY

what about this bundle

I alsoo need a mouse

[fossil cedar]

Have to say the hs80s are great

[obsidian wigeon]

Razer sucks

[fossil cedar]

Extremely comfortable and sound actually pretty good

[obsidian wigeon]

Anything audio razer is bad

[dim forge]

[stoic island]

I have experience with hs60 and people with up to virtuoso

[dim forge]

some friend of mine said the headset was okay and the mouse died after 8 months of use

[obsidian wigeon]

Steelseries arctis nova 1 or nova 3 are decent choices also

[stoic island]

Corsair looks and feels good but sound quality really doesn't hold up to the price

[obsidian wigeon]

They have fairly neutral sound profile

[fossil cedar]

Same and I've heard hs80s sound way better than virtuosos

[obsidian wigeon]

With some bass boost and kinda recessed highs

[fossil cedar]

You have to eq them but when done they sound decent

[stoic island]

But anyways I'm still of the opinion everything Corsair audio is not worth the price

[dim forge]

I mean, anything is better than my redmi airdots 😭

[obsidian wigeon]

I have arctis 1 but I don't recc it due to some annoying quality issues

Like headband adhesive being meh

It will never come off but the center part comes loose

Lower part of the headband is tightly secured so it won't come out

I picked it up only because wireless version was on sale for $30

All the way down from the 110 msrp

[stoic island]

Good price

[obsidian wigeon]

Had to add like 10 bucks on top to solve the ear pain

Stock earpads are too thin

Got some thicker aftermarket ones and problem was solved

[dim forge]

cloud ii is the smart choice then?

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

cloud ii or mh751

can't go wrong with the two

[dim forge]

pulsefire haste is good too right?

[obsidian wigeon]

mouse?

[dim forge]

ye

[obsidian wigeon]

ye it's decent

[dim forge]

I'm using a generic Bluetooth hp

[obsidian wigeon]

Light and got good sensor

Good switches too

I'm waiting on my G305 to ship myself

Just ordered it, I wanted wireless

[hallow glen]

wrong channel silly

[tidal moth]

No

[hallow glen]

did you build that dog

[tidal moth]

Yes

[proven salmon]

Question can I turn on my pc without a gpu I have a ryzen 5 5600

[fossil cedar]

no

[proven salmon]

Ok

[weary galleon]

I mean you can turn it on, but you won't get any monitor output

[potent portal]

@south cliff Did you end up winning that auction? Looks like it sold at $510

[south cliff]

No

[delicate flame]

what’s the best 700 watt psu i should buy

[paper summit]

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[delicate flame]

??

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FFx6W4

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zDMTwP/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0650fnfagu-1

and i wanted to get this one

[dusty cedar]

how do you build a dog?

[dusty cedar]

razer is such a terrible company that makes equally terrible products. 🤮

[delicate flame]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XRmxFT/thermaltake-toughpower-grand-rgb-750w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpg-0750fpcgus-r

or this one

[pseudo pollen]

Just check the list, you really should get B or A tier PSUs

[potent portal]

Dang, it was a risk but could have paid out. Oh well, at least you're no worse off than before.

[south cliff]

well someone with l;ike an hour left bid like 900 so i just gave up but then when i looked at i later it sold for 510 proboably just a troll i wouldve gotten it if i knew i had it in the back of my mind but its whatever something else will pop up

And I sold a pc today for 420 so that’s good

[potent portal]

Could be someone canceled the bid, or the seller did. You could in theory use a second account to game the system abusing that process.

[south cliff]

Yeah that’s exactly what they probably did but I didn’t know if another one on his page pops up I will get it

[south cliff]

And if you are browsing ebay or another place like it and come up on a good deal for something like this pls tell me

[tidal moth]

Dog parts

[charred compass]

anyone know if an i911900 is ok with a asus b560-c mb

[south cliff]

I mean it works

[frigid night]

To bad their Naga Pro V2 is a really good mouse.

complete with optical switches

[dusty cedar]

ok

[flint sapphire]

Razer makes excellent mice

[potent portal]

But terrible software to go with it

[fluid sail]

how do yall get such high quality for your pics?

[flint sapphire]

It’s mostly lighting

[potent portal]

If you ask demonmit he'll say something along the lines of "it's easy, just set the right post processing, filters, and angles"

[fluid sail]

Ill halft to set up a little area when im done with mine then

for lighing

Lighting*

[flint sapphire]

You can get pretty nice shots with any decent phone from the past 6ish years

[south cliff]

I could try and get this one but it will cost more https://www.ebay.com/itm/285203297791?hash=item426770f5ff:g:i40AAOSwzzNkE4Mc&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwKsAVXDYLjJ0U1PzhoGjm2%2FMTda2S2SxeNMvEcwlyGqs6wf4BZw2aWR8X7z3NbkQ7dki%2FLpVjGd1K3XobywDNq0BSwWeX57idSBcaLjb2NhPJuh1dHD79eHSJlVOo95z%2FA7J7BjO9E7z2%2F89xi6AvP8lEy7LCk%2F0dB88pjj2qh9Fj7LuUzrBOlbwNDBunXFr3zIrgV%2Bfo24dP5RhB32hzgO4jOrdSA26RIewVaVOLTt5l0xSGl9HzlH7y3swWgp0tQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR4apg5LkYQ

Same issue as the other one

[flint sapphire]

that link

[south cliff]

[potent portal]

This one doesn't look like drop damage, and from that sag on the GPU... you'd have to go into that one assuming the mobo and/or GPU are dead again

https://tenor.com/view/pink-huh-confused-headtilt-head-gif-12361160

[south cliff]

I didn’t even notice it was sagging so much

[little osprey]

is it even plugged in?

[idle wedge]

What are some good white rgb fans and what’s are some good fan headers that can support a lot

[potent portal]

Is what plugged in? The computer?

[little osprey]

no, the gpu...

[potent portal]

Oh, yes it is

[south cliff]

I can return within 30 days

[potent portal]

Lian Li ST fans

[idle wedge]

Bro those are like 100 dollers

[south cliff]

Lol

[cyan ravine]

p12 argb

[little osprey]

a 5 pack of arctic p12s and a can of white spray paint

[potent portal]

No? $52 for a 3 pack and it includes a hub

[cyan ravine]

they have white versions

lol

no need for paint

[little osprey]

the diy factor is better tho

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-dot-dot-dot-stick-figure-intresting-gif-23376515

I do like some case mod

[idle wedge]

Actually thanks man

They look nice

[potent portal]

Even better $40 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1644764-REG/lian_li_st120_3w_st120_high_static_pressure.html

[idle wedge]

Talk think I need 750 watts or 850 watts for this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gRkXDq

[obsidian wigeon]

Instead of 12900K

You can get 13600K honestly

Also I think leadex gold iii is still on sale for 850w variant

I would get that to save some money

[potent portal]

13600k WILL beat the 12900k in gaming

[idle wedge]

But like 12900k cheaper by like 30

And it’s just a few fps

[obsidian wigeon]

12900K isn't cheaper than 13600K

It's 299 for 13600K

[potent portal]

12900k is $365 and 13600k is $300

[idle wedge]

Oh shoot I though I meant 13700k

[obsidian wigeon]

You're looking to pay less and gaining performance

Nah even 13600K outperforms the i9

[idle wedge]

No way I’m pretty sure the i9 12900k is better

[obsidian wigeon]

Nope

[idle wedge]

And the i7 13700k is better than i9

[south cliff]

No

[obsidian wigeon]

i9 is just a name

[potent portal]

Nope i7, i9, it's all marketing

[obsidian wigeon]

What matters is generational performance

Can't cross compare different gens

[idle wedge]

Ight

But how much watts for that

[obsidian wigeon]

750 is fine

It's a 4070ti

275W card

Pair that with 13600K and it's sufficient

[idle wedge]

Ok thanks

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah, 13600K is equal to 5800X3D, which is faster than 12900K anyway

It was the fastest gaming cpu

[idle wedge]

Once I saw the i5 13600k for 250

[obsidian wigeon]

Not worth it tbh