building-and-recc-chat

[potent portal]

-100 core and memory

[upper condor]

i have their micro center receipt and thats a good idea to try

[potent portal]

If it's not registered that'll totally work then

[upper condor]

been meaning to try it but theres its impossible to reproduce, will try now though for a bit

all i can do is play a game and wait 😢

man gigabyte just cannot spell

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[upper condor]

ah its already registered unfortunate

[fossil cedar]

Shame

[upper condor]

if underclock fixes it ill just deal with it until next gen, or see if an insane deal pops up near me

not like the 5 extra frames will do anything

[fossil cedar]

Try contact them and get them to setup collection for your address maybe?

If underclock doesn't work

[upper condor]

after the horror stories ive heard from gigabyte RMA 😨

[fossil cedar]

Or just see if you can request repair

[upper condor]

what do i do for "failure photo"? not sure if I can

problem description should be good enough, and would i just put the micro center receipt in the invoice upload?

[potent portal]

Yep. Have hwinfo logging and when it crashes again take a screenshot of the graph for the failure photo.

(not just showing the stats but actually recording them to a log)

[autumn gulch]

So is buying a gigabyte gpu or mobo bad then?

[upper condor]

i wouldnt say that, just heard the RMA process is super painful and takes a while

but that was during the GPU shortage mainly

and they ended up giving refunds anyways

[earnest olive]

gigabyte rma goes by serial number, they did not ask me for proof of purchase when I rma’d my 3080 vision

[autumn gulch]

I mean I do have the option of a different card like msi or ASUs or even like maybe evga

[earnest olive]

wouldn’t go for evga if you’re strictly thinking about warranty, they’re bound to run out of replacement stock soon if they haven’t already and they’re not making any new cards

[upper condor]

^

[earnest olive]

asus definitely not, asus has the worst rma in the industry

msi is alright

gigabyte is not as good as msi but alright

[upper condor]

my serial number is already registered with the previous owner, not sure how that'd work out then

[earnest olive]

[obsidian wolf]

I need the actual reasoning as to why someone should skip a 6950 for 650$ with a 4070 ti that cost 800$

:/

[upper condor]

rtx!

[earnest olive]

raster performance is similar

ask yourself if nvidia features are worth $150

[obsidian wolf]

No they are not

12gb of vram won’t even make the sense for me

Specially if I can not go ray tracing to its maximum capability

For 150$ more

Specially in cyberpunk

Also 12 cores seems out of my deal, I don’t think I’ll future proof on that, if I ever needs more cores in my life I’ll just buy the cpu down the line that has that amount of cores

6-8 cores seems good enough for actual sense of gaming and streaming is what you want to do down the close line, more than that is for actual workload and I don’t see myself crunching anything for a good minute

[earnest olive]

then buy the 6950xt, you answered your own question

[obsidian wolf]

Seems the right answer I was seeing the capacity that it had and saw runs

There’s only some games where the 4070 ti will run better

Like some of those games no one plays outside of like something your friend or family bought for you

[vague oracle]

Imma have to disagree with that lol

When my mobo died and sent it out to RMA it, they straight up replaced it and got a new one two days after I sent out the old one

Same with my laptop now

[south cliff]

depends on who your talking to imo

[obsidian wolf]

Men

Does anyone know where to find the Fractal North Design

Out of stock everywhere

goddamit

[stiff anchor]

thanks

[verbal plover]

everything but the aio, which is coming tmmrw. I'm excited

[south cliff]

w

[verbal plover]

I think I do need to go out and get zipties and stuff though, if the case doesn't come with any

[south cliff]

ehh you can just shove the back panel on

[verbal plover]

💀

I always do stuff all scuffed like that I'm trying to change man 💀

[south cliff]

bro same its a life style

[obsidian wolf]

beautiful

About to accompanied you on the madness

but still so unsure about one thing and that's the case

I really wanted the Fractal north

but it's out of stock in virtually every place I have check

[verbal plover]

I went with the O11 white

just seems like a lot of space to work in, and I like the design

I like the power supply not being on the bottom of everything

[obsidian wolf]

what do you guys think of the Hyte 40

?

Seems like a hard one to build in for the first time

[stiff anchor]

@fossil cedar found this on facbook https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/657000052847062?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Ac6436376-3ab1-42f6-852e-5d5be422af87

here it is on microcenter with positive reviews https://www.microcenter.com/product/485308/powerspec-750-watt-80-plus-bronze-atx-semi-modular-power-supply-active-pfc-sli-crossfire-ready-gaming-pc-computer-switching-psu\

[potent portal]

That's a low C tier unit

It won't explode at least but don't expect it to power a 3080

[stiff anchor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pkP9Mb thats the rest of my parts

[potent portal]

6750 is only a 250W iirc so it should in theory be ok

I'd still rather get a B tier 650W over a 750W (low) C tier

[stiff anchor]

good to know

how did you know it was c tier i didnt find it on this list https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[potent portal]

It's there

I search by brand because the model number isn't always exact on the tier list

[wicked frigate]

Hey I just turned on my pc and got a message

And yesterday I had a message saying “USB Device Over Current Status Detected” and my pc shut down after. 15 sec

[wicked frigate]

But today it let me turn on my pc and I used it but that kept popping up

[south cliff]

Disconnect all peripherals that are usb then restart your pc

[wicked frigate]

I did

Same message

[potent portal]

Are you using a USB hub

[wicked frigate]

Yah for fans

[potent portal]

bruh

Fans need a lot of power lol

[wicked frigate]

Yah but I got 9

This never used to happen

[south cliff]

Damn

[wicked frigate]

It just started

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-reaction-headsmack-ugh-frustrated-gif-5015289

[south cliff]

Are they all connected

[wicked frigate]

Cause I have a 011

[south cliff]

To that one hub

[wicked frigate]

Yah

All slots used

[south cliff]

Connect them to the motherboard

[wicked frigate]

On Corsair commander

I don’t think I can connect all 9

[potent portal]

Do you have the sata power connected to the commander

[wicked frigate]

Yah

My fans all light up

And spin

So yah

I have 3 connect to mobo via splitter

And 6 in hub

[potent portal]

Ok that's not a "USB hub" then, that's a "fan hub"

[wicked frigate]

Oh my bad

[potent portal]

But still disconnect it for testing purposes

[wicked frigate]

I did yesterday

Still

Hater was different because after 15 sec it would just shut off

I tried to unplug usb and mouse and keyboard

Still didn’t work

And today it’s letting use it but that message pops up

And it has been for like a week

[potent portal]

When's the last time you cleaned dust out of your ports

[south cliff]

Maybe use a different data

Sata

[wicked frigate]

Umm never but mostly my dust is on the bottoms fans

And other place there’s like nothing

[potent portal]

Take a can of air or handheld blower to the ports, sometimes dust build up causes a short circuit

Front and back

[wicked frigate]

Ok should I do that with everything unplugged like usb 3.0 a

And all that

?

[potent portal]

Just the PC being off is enough

[wicked frigate]

K

[potent portal]

And devices unplugged from the ports obv

[wicked frigate]

And can I use electric

Blower?

[potent portal]

Yeah

[wicked frigate]

Alr

But do you know why this happened

It just happens out of nowhere

[potent portal]

Battery powered ones work great, big air compressors can kill things

Yep dust buildup just happens over time

[wicked frigate]

What was the message yesterday

[wicked frigate]

Yah that’s why I bought electric one

Lol

[potent portal]

I have one too. My wife borrows it for work sometimes too because her boss is a clean freak.

[wicked frigate]

And today it’s the other message but let’s me use my pc

[wicked frigate]

Yah

But do you why this happens?

[south cliff]

I just built a system that has a ryzen 7 3700 pro 1660 ti 16 gb ram 3600 mhz 500 gb ssd and a 500 watt power supply someone guess how much I paid for it

[potent portal]

Dust conducts electricity. It can bridge a power and ground.

[wicked frigate]

I see

[stiff anchor]

Another good tip, thanks

[potent portal]

I've also seen physical damage to a I/O shield cause one of the metal fingers to bend and get stuck inside the port

[wicked frigate]

Alr well I catch you when I do the cleaning

[wicked frigate]

Yah but mine doesn’t look like it’s stuck

[regal shard]

$400

[dusky hearth]

more than 3 dollars

[earnest olive]

I’ve built something similarly powerful to flip for 300 so I’ll guess 300

[south cliff]

130

[regal shard]

Wooow

That’s dirt cheap

And if u just want a pc to play pc exclusives you’ll be good with that

[south cliff]

Yup 50 for everything besides the gpu I bought it for 80 like a weak beforehand

[south cliff]

I’m reselling it already got me a decent system

[regal shard]

How much are you gonna sell it for?

[south cliff]

Idk I list it for maybe 100 than what i actually want for it so maybe 700 OBO

Everything used on eBay come to around 525

And I think I’m going to pick up a 1080 for 80 Thursday or tomorrow

And put it in this system and the 1660 ti in my mini pc

And could sell the mini for 400 and this one for like 650

And paid a total of 276 for both

[earnest olive]

130 😳

[south cliff]

Yeah Ik i got a crazy good deal

Came with ssd case cpu wraith cooler 7 fans motherboard and psu

For 50

And ram

and everything is working fine and a good thing it came with a Wi-Fi card

But obviously doesn’t look the greatest but performance is wonderful

[stiff anchor]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1364918364271913/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Ac9a586f4-3955-4e4f-b6b9-956d835fff40

Good part? I think I found it on the list but I'm not sure

[languid nimbus]

No cables included

[stiff anchor]

How did I miss that? Thank you @languid nimbus

[regal shard]

That’s kinda wack

I mean I guess it’s $30 but who wants a psu with no connectors

[earnest olive]

well, for corsair psus you can buy cables pretty easily

[regal shard]

Especially since not all cables are compatible with every psu

[earnest olive]

could be a great deal for someone who wants to go cablemod especially

[regal shard]

Oh rly

[earnest olive]

yeah you just have to check which type, like type3 or type4

[potent portal]

Corsair has super standardized cables, other brands even use them sometimes

[earnest olive]

replacing cables can be a bigger issue for the less popular brands

but definitely not an issue for corsair for the right price

[regal shard]

How much are Cosair cables usually

[earnest olive]

cablemod custom cables even replace the stock cables anyways, so if you’re using cablemod you don’t really care about the stock cables

[potent portal]

Or buy a dead corsair psu off ebay and salvage the cables

[earnest olive]

that’s an idea as well

just gotta hope the failure wasn’t in one of the cables lol

[regal shard]

How many pcs have you guys made

[earnest olive]

ehhh

50?

[regal shard]

NAH

[potent portal]

I lost track ages ago

[earnest olive]

something like that

[regal shard]

You build a pc for all of your family members???

[earnest olive]

I built them to sell

[regal shard]

Ohhh ok that makes more sense

[potent portal]

I built a few for friends, my wife, but mostly for work.

[regal shard]

I just thought u did 50 has a hobby

[earnest olive]

lol

[potent portal]

I built a few servers and half the workstations at our building

[earnest olive]

I'm not rich unfortunately

[regal shard]

Lmao

[earnest olive]

just a poor student

can't afford so many pcs

[regal shard]

Are the servers like super high end pcs

[potent portal]

Not with that attitude

[regal shard]

I know they have threadrippers in them

[potent portal]

No actual rack mount servers, epyc processors mostly.

[earnest olive]

you're right time to take out a student loan and use it to buy a bunch of 4090s

so I can game on them with my 1 hour of free time a week

[regal shard]

See that’s the thing

I wish I had to money to make a pc when I was kid

I’d have so much more time to play on them versus now I have barely anytime, and I really shouldn’t be spending most of my free time gaming anyways

[potent portal]

First PC for me was an old Windows 98 tower. I frankenstein built it with my mom's old XP that oddly enough had the EXACT same motherboard and ended up with an awesome gaming rig for Starcraft.

[regal shard]

Damn that dates back before I was born

[potent portal]

I still to this day wonder why a Windows 98SE machine built in 1999 had the same motherboard as a machine built in 2003

Although the reason my mom got a new XP was it was too slow for her so... makes sense ig

[obsidian wolf]

6950 xt/ ryzen 7 7700x/ msi 240 aio/ nzxt h5 flow/ 2 ssd 1 for window 1 for games and all the other bs/ ddr5 ram cl 36 / psu 850 gold 80+ / monito 1440p 144hz Lg ultragear

Call me the deal builder since everything has a deal lmao

the build came down a lot from what I wanted to build but

I gotta be honest I didn't go over 2000 due to monitor expense

or better said I didn't want too

Gotta add fans

from amazon

50$ more

seems like the ideal build

@austere condor

[obsidian wigeon]

1.9k for all that?

Honestly it's not a deal lol

Not too bad tho, considering a 13600k rig with ddr4 costs similar

[cyan ravine]

Hoping it's not the recalled msi aio that clogged up

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[obsidian wolf]

:/

I can not see anywhere where I can find

Anything else for a close approx though

Either the board is to expensive

Or the cpu will need

A better cooling which adds a top 50$

[obsidian wolf]

Which one pls

Now I need to know

The monitor is what makes the build that price

• what's a better gpu option a 4070 ti with %2 improvement on top of the 6950 or a use 3090 ti with no guaranteed

[cyan ravine]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-recalls-mag-coreliquid-240r-360r-aio-coolers-due-to-sediment-build-up
But then
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U7uBkjehgQk

As of 6 months ago it was still kind of a problem

It might be fine now? But I'm a bit of a skeptic and pessimist

Also @obsidian wolf how much is the monitor?

[obsidian wolf]

250

everywhere else it was going 330 or 293

[cyan ravine]

Hm, 32"?

[obsidian wolf]

27

[cyan ravine]

X27Q might still be 210

1440p 165hz

[obsidian wolf]

is va

[cyan ravine]

250 isn't bad tho

Ah ok, you've done your homework

Fair enough

[obsidian wolf]

I am trying to quit on the extreme ends

and just go and buy the better case

[cyan ravine]

I think apart from that, my only comment would be the h5 flow yeah

[obsidian wolf]

later on them maybe consider changing stuff to a 360 io from corsair

[obsidian wolf]

yeah

H7 is also there

the difference is 30 bucks

[cyan ravine]

If you want a 360 aio go ek basic or deepcool LS/LT

Easily trumps corsair or msi

[obsidian wolf]

140$

imma sent

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[obsidian wolf]

this one

[cyan ravine]

The 100$ corsair refurb kinda isn't worth

[obsidian wolf]

So they have issues you said?

is 90$

[cyan ravine]

Hm maybe not that one

But for 90$ it's not great

AG620 would be easily better

$50 for the same or better perf

Or AK620 for a little more if you want a clean aesthetic

For the case tho, how much is the H5 flow?

[obsidian wolf]

90

h7 120

well 129

[cyan ravine]

Ok h5 for 90 is ok

I can actually agree with that one

[obsidian wolf]

air cooling will be sufficient them?

[cyan ravine]

Yeah for 7700x easily

It doesn't have a good IHS so heat transfer means the cooler doesn't work as effectively

You can really run a 7950x3d on a single tower

(would you? Not really)

So yeah, ag620 on 7700X I'd say we'd be getting up there for pushing the limits anyway

Going higher would be teasing out that last couple %

[obsidian wolf]

yeh

Initially the build was 7900x them I ask myself am i gonna use the 12 cores anyway

[cyan ravine]

By the sounds of it, apart from the cooler, list sounds fine

[obsidian wolf]

them I told myself do i want to go over 2000$ for the 360 aio

[cyan ravine]

I mean 7700x is ok

Ideally I'd go 13600K

[obsidian wolf]

If I could find a deal to go with the mobo + ram at 500$

them I would go intel trust me

[cyan ravine]

500?

What mobo is this?

[cyan ravine]

Fair enough

That deal looks fine yeah

Wait how did you get to 1900 with a deal like that

[obsidian wolf]

mmm, add the psu 150$

[cyan ravine]

Ooo 150? That can def be cheaper

[obsidian wolf]

add the graphics card 650$

[obsidian wolf]

850 gold +

[cyan ravine]

RM850e is 129

Ye rm850e is 129

D.F II

[obsidian wolf]

Is it atx (it's first build don't want to be your mobo burner and proceeds to spent college funds on nothing)

[cyan ravine]

Ye it's atx

140mm long iirc

[obsidian wolf]

Sometimes you wish you go back in time an actually put attention on what your dad teached you while you where building the pc rather than having to go blindly naked into all of this with a bunch of yt tutorials on how to do it right and not f in the process

[cyan ravine]

Do you have a pcpp list

[obsidian wolf]

mmm let me do one really quick

[cyan ravine]

I'm seeing like, 100-200 in there that I'm not sure about

Windows?

[obsidian wolf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gVJqv3

[obsidian wolf]

Have my own flashdrive

Also have another one for the mobo as well in case is needed

[obsidian wolf]

this without all the deals applied and stuff etc etc

[potent portal]

You can put manual prices

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vszG8r how's this instead

Some of the prices have changed since yesterday my bad

Also I wasn't sure if you were including tax

[obsidian wolf]

first sc i sent with all prices was tax included

[cyan ravine]

Oh I see

Ok one minute

[obsidian wolf]

Redragon S131 Wired Gaming Mechanical

Also this my bad

I have the mouse not a keyboard

This sc should explain everything

this is without the aio added

• i gotta add the 50$ for the 3 extra fans I'll buy from amazon

also a 750 ok for a 6950 or 4070 ti, I thought both of those graphic cards would go close to 850 while gaming

[cyan ravine]

Ok this works out $15 more than the list you if you included the msi aio
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mqxkNc

4070ti is perfectly fine with 750

Technically a 650 would be perfectly fine here with one

4070Ti is like, 250W max?

Transients are far from crazy on it they're all overbuilt

If we went a solid 650w the price ends up being the same as 6950xt
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C9sP4s

For 6950xt you wouldn't really do this though

[obsidian wolf]

Yeah I see the mark on the 6950 is 337 while the one on the 4070 ti is 223 so is cost effective on that remark

-50 from the psu

[cyan ravine]

Yeah

[obsidian wolf]

-40 from the aio cooler

[cyan ravine]

So gpu upgrade

And the storage too, we're up to 2tb with an a60

Instead of 1.25tb

[obsidian wolf]

I mean 1.25tb was more because 1 ssd was for windows

and the other one was for the games and stuff

[cyan ravine]

You can use 1 ssd for both

[obsidian wolf]

I know that

[cyan ravine]

It's not slower by any means

[obsidian wolf]

Now I gotta math harder

[cyan ravine]

People just opt for that as it keeps the os drive clean but really, if you just keep the drive like, under 75% it's fine

Generally speaking

[obsidian wolf]

wanna see my current drive

[cyan ravine]

Sure

[obsidian wolf]

[cyan ravine]

Brrr

[obsidian wolf]

is at 20% right now

[cyan ravine]

Probably barely fine lol

[obsidian wolf]

left

450gb base msi laptop

Is crying out loud

what are the speed comparison between the soligdim and the silicon though

[cyan ravine]

Solidigm is kind of an upgrade for $15

[obsidian wolf]

is there an actual increase in going for the soligdim or is it simply not worth it

[cyan ravine]

Similarly sn770 is an upgrade over the solidigm for 10$ more

All 3 are good picks

If you're just gaming tho? $25 will barely change anything

[obsidian wolf]

mm okay

I mean let's be honest from the start there's some thinks to questioned

like ddr5 over ddr4 just for gaming

:V

[cyan ravine]

I mean you're doing a zen 4 combo

It's the best way to zen 4

[obsidian wolf]

But hopefully future proofing god is there hand me in the way that ddr5 will only get better

[obsidian wigeon]

high end ddr5 isn't faster than good ddr4, but you're forced with ddr5 anyway on am4

future proofing is a lie

[obsidian wolf]

true

[cyan ravine]

Technically you get the cpu for 200 and the mobo for 150 and ram for 150 so zen 4 in this discussion is fine

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[cyan ravine]

But, if you can humour me

I can probably outdo that deal

Give me 5

[obsidian wolf]

mmm

I mean sure

500$ better than that

I tried searching earth and water

couldn't do the initial 13600k intended build

250$ from micro as well

so was cutting the price down on that as well

But couldn't simply founded

ddr4 mobo I guess because the cheaper ddr5 mobo is 200$

[cyan ravine]

Nvm I'm 50 short

[obsidian wolf]

and the ram stick would have to be a 2x8 gb i guess for the 60$

[cyan ravine]

Dang

[obsidian wolf]

32 gb cl36 ddr5 mobo and ryzen 7 seems to me that computer sellers are legit just getting this at such a cheap price

[cyan ravine]

Wait 250 for 13600K? I can do it with that

[obsidian wolf]

and that the buyer is just handing 100% the gain on that

[cyan ravine]

I can def match the 7700x combo

Brb

Did you need wifi or nah

[obsidian wolf]

I mean for the start yes them I'll go buy the 150 feet cable

[cyan ravine]

Damnn I'm 25 short then

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ks6P4s
https://a.co/d/3tpjFaJ

In an ideal world

[obsidian wolf]

That build actually looks cool is cutting on that 70$

[cyan ravine]

Are you deadset on the h5? Cos we can go g360 and it comes with fans

Or even focus 2 and you keep the blackout look

[obsidian wolf]

Nope h5 is last option base on looks

Im not deadset on it

I just wanted the north and couldn't get it before it went out out everywhere else

[cyan ravine]

Ok if we swap to g360a it comes out cheaper even with wifi

[obsidian wolf]

I was gonna cut down on everything

else

Just to have that case

[cyan ravine]

Ah ok

[obsidian wolf]

Thank you though!

You have gone sky and up

[cyan ravine]

So what if you ran the pc on the mobo box until north was in stock?

[obsidian wolf]

showing me how to save money on it

[cyan ravine]

All g

[obsidian wolf]

jejejejjeej

My room going up 80 c

jejejjeejejejej

[cyan ravine]

People do that, run a pc on the box

It's jank but it works

[obsidian wolf]

jeejeejeje

Imma loose weight for a good while them I guess

[cyan ravine]

Just until you got the case you want

Here lemme show you the list I landed on

[obsidian wolf]

Men I was one week short before it run out on walmart

https://tenor.com/view/crying-meme-black-guy-cries-sad-man-thank-god-for-my-reefer-hood-news-gif-24902056

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pxhdk9
With this ram
https://a.co/d/3tpjFaJ

Or if you want white? Give me a couple minutes

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W8RMhk

With the same ram as above

For the case, the psu shroud isn't covered however

You can easily fab one with some paint and a few bends of sheet metal

[obsidian wolf]

I saw a build where they just plug it at the top I beleive

with some screws

[cyan ravine]

Ye drill one hole or two for the screws

[obsidian wolf]

[cyan ravine]

Bend a bit of sheet and bam

Fractal north-ish

[obsidian wolf]

lmao

[cyan ravine]

But you can cut the case out for now, get the parts, build it and actually set it up while you wait for the case

[obsidian wolf]

Who knows between tomorrow and friday

[cyan ravine]

Fractal north has fans, so you could add p12's

For like, 15$

[obsidian wolf]

Hopefully I'll get this rig up and running no longer than this week and at max before the end of spring break

[cyan ravine]

You will pay a little more going the 13600K route but for all that extra multicore and like, 10% better performance? Hell yes

[obsidian wolf]

First thing I do in my rig, do the final I haven't done because I spent time building the comp and setting it up rather than finish the final

[cyan ravine]

13600K with good ram will slap a 7700x

[obsidian wolf]

I mean let's be honest 13600k is a beauty

If I get to go on top of the 2000 for some god unhealthy reason that I know my mom will grab the chancla and slap me until I have no bones left

[cyan ravine]

13600K is closer to zen 4x3d parity

[obsidian wolf]

them my 13600k build is perfect

initially the 13600k build was 1800$ on itself with the ddr5 and everything and even better ram since it was on deal for a cl30 6000 mhz

[cyan ravine]

13600K 4070ti will run anything at high fps 1440p

Ye but the ddr4 ram I linked is b die

Especially if you tune the b die, you get high end ddr5 parity

[obsidian wolf]

The deal cutter in the build was the f monitor that are so expensive in 1440p mark

Understandable though

But I can try cutting some prices learning that a 13600k can also run with air cooling

[cyan ravine]

Try as much as you can to run that ram

The zen 4 deal is also, still perfectly good too

But if you can afford the upgrade def do it lol

[obsidian wolf]

I am looking to cut prices on the psu for a 650

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm where did my deal for the 13600k

went

men

[cyan ravine]

For 13600K I'd maybe stick to 750W

Lot more power draw from the 13th chip lol

[obsidian wolf]

So 650w for the ryzen 7 right

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[obsidian wolf]

okay let me try

[cyan ravine]

[obsidian wolf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sP6LZw

but the 4070 ti though is out of stock there

[cyan ravine]

Le oof

Well, that's still a good list

Waiting for gpu and case

[earnest olive]

is that just an RGB AK620?

[obsidian wolf]

yeh

[obsidian wolf]

yep

[earnest olive]

neat

[obsidian wolf]

cuting out on the aio though

Quite the expensive thing when you think about it

Just buy it down the line when I feel is needed or when I just upgrade to a better cpu

As mentioned here is not needed for this cpu so why imma spent extra 50$ on it

for something that had problems V:VVV:VV

Thanks a lot nynDa

[earnest olive]

just get a $31 360mm aio like me and then it's not too expensive

[obsidian wolf]

is it actually good?

Saw one company actually selling 360 aio for 80$

But saw the reviews and it was like

heh heh he

:V

[obsidian wigeon]

it is but not quite, ak is more discreet on top with a cover plate

instead of the copper sticking out at the top

but they're the exact same thing apart from looks

[earnest olive]

ahh I see

[earnest olive]

it's a lian li galahad 360

got a nice used deal on it

then I found a tiny scratch on it and asked for a small refund

they refunded like 2/3 when I was expecting $5 lol

I was mostly joking I know that's not generally reproducible

[obsidian wolf]

lmao

you got the perfect deal I guess

I can just not found a comprehensible price for the aio right now

Anywhere I go... the 140$ seems good

ngl

but

Not usable in this computer

at least right now

Just went an added my email to every alert for the north fractal

I'll just have all the components bought and them wait for the case

[weary galleon]

Politely complaining can often yield decent savings when shopping online

I complained to dell about delayed shipping and got something like 10-15% of the price of my (already on heavy sale) laptop refunded :)

Can sometimes manage to get goodies or refunds from amazon as well

[fleet heron]

daym i should do that

smart

[potent portal]

The key to that is to be polite but also make it clear how inconvenient it all is

[weary galleon]

Exactly

[fleet heron]

seems like yall got experience

[potent portal]

I get $5 from amazon all the time because of delays. Sometimes that's more than the item cost lol

[weary galleon]

Yup

I think there are services that offer to write that stuff for you but I manage alright on my own

[potent portal]

There's a standard discount they're allowed to give out as compensation but it's discretionary. So it's up to the rep if you get it.

[weary galleon]

Yeah hence why being polite is key

[fleet heron]

MW2 wont load now idk what to do with my life

smh the second i said that it worked

ive got reason to not sleep!

[potent portal]

See all it takes is a little complaining

[fleet heron]

complaining can take to far in life

gets you discounts and makes games load

all everyone would ever need!

[fossil cedar]

I'd look for an A of B tier personally

[bold stone]

@fossil cedar hey long time no see

[gentle pollen]

Lots of space for cables to go through. Watch a review you'll see what I mean.

[fossil cedar]

Hi 👋

[bold stone]

Hru

[obsidian wolf]

Today is the day

Kinda scare of the chancla

[verbal plover]

waiting for AIO to come

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1063351585226367017/1075891098041467062/togif-1.gif

[fossil cedar]

I'm doing fine thanks, you?

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/blacksam-blacksament-goody-goodmor-gif-24601912

[bold stone]

Good!

Studying Islam for the exam

[fossil cedar]

Good luck

[obsidian wolf]

650 psu for a 7700 and 6950 xt

God please don’t burn my house

[paper summit]

Yippee

[obsidian wolf]

I should be ok though talk to the guy here

We did calc

[paper summit]

Just don't oc anything you'll be fine

[obsidian wolf]

I dont overclock

I’ll just go ahead and buy a 850 if I feel uncomfortable in the next days

But finally a dream made true

[paper summit]

Yea if you're not oc you'll be fine

7700 only draws a lil over 65w

And 6950xt will be like 400

[cyan ravine]

go 750 now if you're going 6950xt

I was suggesting 650 with the 4070ti

6950 takes a fair chunk more power

RM750e

[paper summit]

Thought he alr had one lol that's why

Nvm it's litterly in the cart

[cyan ravine]

well, hopefully he sees it

Really he's likely fine tho lol

We just like to be careful here

[paper summit]

Yea for sure

[cyan ravine]

it's an AMD reference 6950 so it's not one of the atrocious AIB ones

[paper summit]

300w 6700xt and oc 5900x on 650w bronze 🗿

[cyan ravine]

at least as far as power goes

[paper summit]

Yea some get close to 500w 💀

[cyan ravine]

prolly 500w seen spikes but higher transients ignored

so it's likely fine

me? I like to have a little extra tho

[paper summit]

Yea I prob should have gotten a higher power psu but as you know this build was a mix up

From the start

[cyan ravine]

my bad tho @obsidian wolf I sorta miscommunicated the 13600k/7700x thing, I thought we were clear committed to the 4070ti 💀

but again, it's probably fine

[obsidian wolf]

The 4070 ti is to expensive

[cyan ravine]

ye

ah

sadge

[obsidian wolf]

And I was gonna cut ends on everything

[cyan ravine]

is it too late to swap psu?

[obsidian wolf]

Nope

[cyan ravine]

ok good, go rm750e

[obsidian wolf]

I can go to micro and just get another one later on

[cyan ravine]

ye

Glad I caught that tho, sorry man

[obsidian wolf]

All good bro

At the end of the day you are trying to help me

I can not thank it enough to everyone that has talk to me in here for the past month

[cyan ravine]

np

a 6950XT build is still a hell of a crazy build imo

you'll run almost anything at 1440p

cranked as far as it goes

[obsidian wolf]

Is the thing

In 3 months from now or 5 I’ll buy a 4K monitor

And test cyberpunk

Btw the ending price came down to 1826 compare to the 1900 from yesterday

[paper summit]

I'd recommend seeing how you like the performance at 4k with amd super resolution before buying a new monitor lol

Either way tho that's a kick ass rig

[dusty cedar]

im waiting for my case to come. i have my motherboard and power supply comin today and no case to put everything in. i have everything plus my monitor and no case.

[paper summit]

Open air build 🗿

[verbal plover]

[dusty cedar]

its estimated to be here tomorrow though but well see. i still need to wait for my fans that'll be here tomorrow also so it's no rush

oh sweet. my case will actually be here tomorrow.

tracking updated.

[paper summit]

Fire

[bold stone]

@fossil cedar btw I found a new cheaper site should I try again getting a pc

[obsidian wolf]

This is the right way

Am I right

[cyan ravine]

it only goes in one way

[obsidian wolf]

Triangle with triangle

[cyan ravine]

yes and there are two divots that stop it from going in upside down

[paper summit]

@ornate condor want some pc with your rgb?

[dusty cedar]

Can I have some extra rgb with a small side of pc? I want it to look like a rave. Thanks

[ornate condor]

RGB = more fps

[fossil cedar]

🤷 up to you

[dusty cedar]

the temptation has been real ever since you said this

[earnest olive]

imagine having a case

[leaden mauve]

900D gang

fight me

[earnest olive]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/589689072692494356/1050138894101913630/IMG_20220317_090348.jpg

high airflow case

[leaden mauve]

im gonna rip your gpus out

[earnest olive]

so high airflow that you could even say there’s 0 air impedance

[earnest olive]

I’m gonna rip your ddr3 out

[leaden mauve]

jokes on you, im not using any of my ddr3 atm

[paper summit]

🗿

[earnest olive]

I didn’t mean out of a system

[potent portal]

Objectively false, there's still a motherboard blocking part of the airflow

[earnest olive]

I’m gonna rip the ICs out of the PCBs

g-die more like gone-die

[leaden mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-naoki-urasawa-heinrich-lunge-anime-gif-22231212

[earnest olive]

you’re right

I am now on a quest to build a motherboard-less pc

[potent portal]

Nah just do risers and hang the GPU from the ceiling

[leaden mauve]

fatherboard

[earnest olive]

but then the risers are blocking airflow

smh my head

I just need wireless gpus

pcie over bluetooth

power over bluetooth

[potent portal]

Tesla coil time

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-the-prestige-david-bowie-gif-4006332

[dusty cedar]

so is it true that this aio has fans that push 85.85cfm of air or nah? cause i'm callin bs right now. i cant even find any for sale by them in 120mm that push that much.

https://www.newegg.com/deepcool-liquid-cooling-system-ls720/p/N82E16835856219?Item=N82E16835856219

[potent portal]

Depends on how you measure it. Every manufacturer does it differently. We're sorely lacking in any kind of unified testing method and accountability for fans right now, until GN gets their fan testing rig up and running.

All I can safely say is that's one of the best liquid coolers on the market right now, and THE best for Intel LGA1700.

[dusty cedar]

i bought it and have it. im just really sitting here lookin at the box and like nah lemme look this up

[languid nimbus]

My buddy is looking for a good kit of ram for his 9700k rig, any suggestions? Needs 32gb/64gb

[dusty cedar]

if you go to the newegg site and look up case fans then deepcool and filter by air flow it stops listings at 70-75

[potent portal]

It's the same issue with the new P12 max fans. Their claimed static pressure is so much higher than everything else by far, but it still falls behind the Phanteks T30 by a lot in a radiator test.

[potent portal]

There's always old reliable. Compatibility was an issue on 9th gen but G.Skill is usually good.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KYvqqs/gskill-ripjaws-v-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-f4-3600c16d-64gvk

[languid nimbus]

Is it worth the extra price for the typical consumer to get b-die?

[potent portal]

Absolutely not

[languid nimbus]

Okay good deal

Thanks! Exactly what I needed

[potent portal]

Especially on 9th gen, it's not like it'll be running at 4400 c16

[earnest olive]

b-die is worthless if you are just going to run it at xmp

[potent portal]

Sure the primary timings on b-die are low, but the secondary/tertiary are where it really shines and XMP won't set those.

[languid nimbus]

Awesome, thanks fellas

[potent portal]

Oh that memory kit also assumes he has a Z series board. Otherwise XMP is locked out.

[earnest olive]

not locked out, but capped at 2666 frequency

[potent portal]

Right, capped, that's the word I was looking for

[earnest olive]

basically you’ll get 2666 16-19-19-39 @ 1.35v instead of 2666 19-19-19-43 1.2v

lmao

[rugged swan]

any help on a new computer build for gaming (and little work). Only issue is I have some old drives in my current computer that I would like to reinstall but they are from 10 years ago. My current has 5x drives in it and I wanted to keep same but worried they wont be able to be installed

[earnest olive]

if they’re 10 years old they’re probably sata

pretty easy to build a modern computer that’ll still support 6 sata

[rugged swan]

what would be the older version of sata? I think some of them had more pins then sata.

[earnest olive]

if it’s not sata it’s a lot older than 10 years old

[stoic island]

Could be sas or pata

[earnest olive]

sata is 20 years old

[leaden mauve]

ddr3 better

[rugged swan]

just looking at some pics I see that sata has a slip over type plug but some have pins

[earnest olive]

what drives are they

[rugged swan]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Frecoverit.wondershare.com%2Fhard-drive%2Fwhat-is-sata.html&psig=AOvVaw2LCxya0iOCfcWuw44DtPhN&ust=1678402671165000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCPCM-Km3zf0CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAd

[stoic island]

What drives do you have?

[rugged swan]

forget it. I am not smart enough to describe.... link didnt work either. I will have to check when at home as I was doing this on company time

Just really want a good gaming machine with lots of room for drives. I had my old one for 12 years but its on its last legs

[dusty cedar]

ide

you don't really need a lot of drives these days. a simple nvme drive can hold all 6 hhds worth of your stuff plus more

or you can get a single nvme ssd and then get an 18tb hdd

[earnest olive]

I find it hard to believe he bought ide drives 10 years ago

[rugged swan]

where does a NVMe install to? does it mount like a HD

[dusty cedar]

i built a pc years ago from scrap pcs left at the side of the road 10 years ago that had a mix of ide and sata

[earnest olive]

ide drives fell out of relevancy by the early 2000s

[rugged swan]

I am old...... and just kept old drives

[earnest olive]

no, it goes directly on your motherboard

just a slot and a screw, no cables or anything

[stoic island]

Nvme drives usually come in the m.2 form factor that plugs right into the board

[rugged swan]

oh ok thanks. I think that is a better idea and then just copy old info over. Will then have a back up..... very smart.

[earnest olive]

if these were old drives 10 years ago probably time to replace them

[dusty cedar]

everyone kept suggesting this for me so i'll suggest it to you.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162106?quicklink=true

[earnest olive]

avoiding e-waste is great but not sure you need to carry over drives that are of legal drinking age

[rugged swan]

ya I agree but I only store old stuff and just like having it at my finger tips... but if they were to crash I would be sad

[dusty cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/solidigm-2tb-p41-plus/p/N82E16820329022

[earnest olive]

if your drives are IDE they’re probably older than quite a few users here

I wouldn’t be relying on IDE drives, sounds dangerous

[dusty cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/seagate-ironwolf-st12000vn0008-12tb/p/1JW-001N-00027

gonna be more storage than you'll ever need or use in your lifetime

[stoic island]

Could be worth just throwing it on some backup service like backblaze if you want backup and don't actually need the data on your PC

[earnest olive]

that’s a pretty bold claim to make

[rugged swan]

as mentioned I am old so are my drives and basically all things in my house. but I am getting a new computer and want it to last as I am not a hard core gamer but do play often. My guess is to build a new one with this type of drive and copy old stuff over. Any recomends on a new machine?

[dusty cedar]

depends on usage tbh

[earnest olive]

what if he’s editing 64K raw footage in 20 years and 12tb is nothing lol

[stoic island]

What's your budget and what do you want to do with it?

[earnest olive]

something something nobody will ever need more than 640K of memory

[rugged swan]

$ 2000 canadian (so around $1500 US) - Home computer so I play games, some video and work (nothing too taxing)

[stoic island]

Everything from Canadian retailers, right?

[rugged swan]

ya it makes life easier without customs and stuff

[dusty cedar]

i'm 37 and still remember using them and being excite when sata became a thing. lol

[potent portal]

I'm not even 30 and I remember using pata drives

[dusty cedar]

talking about IDE drives

[earnest olive]

I’m 24 and remember being excited to get rid of sata forever (that was last year)

[potent portal]

PATA=IDE

Parallel ATA instead of Serial ATA

[stoic island]

Pata is the standard and IDE was a marketing name iirc

[dusty cedar]

i just remember them being ide idk

[potent portal]

Different names for the same thing

[dusty cedar]

tomato tomato

[potent portal]

You know what I don't miss? IRQ resource allocation 💀

[dusty cedar]

[earnest olive]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YYWCxs

[rugged swan]

thank you!

[stoic island]

If you could spend a bit more, I'd recommend a bigger drive

[dusty cedar]

or came down on the video card you could get a bigger drive and stay around the same price point

[rugged swan]

ya I think I may. Last one lasted so long for my use and I spent a lot then. Makes it worth it

[dusty cedar]

thats what i did at least

[stoic island]

GPU pricing is pretty terrible for cad, you'd lose a good bit of performance if you drop it down to like a 3070 or 6800xt to save money

[earnest olive]

$2040 if you want to double the p41 to 2tb

[stoic island]

yea

[earnest olive]

6800xt is barely any drop in price

I checked

[stoic island]

ye

it was like 900$

prices are terrible

[earnest olive]

6900xt/6950xt/7900xt/7900xtx basically doesn’t exist

4070ti cheaper than all of them

[stoic island]

But yea, extra 60$ for p41 plus 2tb to double the storage and extra 20$ for ag620 for a bit better cooler are what I'd recommend if you can go above budget a bit

[earnest olive]

could also do 1tb ssd and grab a large hard drive to store the contents of your old drives

[stoic island]

that's another option

[earnest olive]

I think this cooler is already pretty overkill for the cpu tbh

[stoic island]

isn't 13400 skimped 12600k iirc?

[earnest olive]

I slapped an se-214-xt on a 13400f and it already felt overkill after looking at load temps lol

[stoic island]

huh

[earnest olive]

bro was running mid 60s in cinebench

with the supplied paste

[stoic island]

smallffts

[dusty cedar]

wouldnt he need a cable that can convert ide into sata at least in order to transfer his data? because honestly, boards these days dont even have ide pins anymore

[stoic island]

do it

[earnest olive]

and default fan curve

[stoic island]

converters are cheap from amazon whenever they figure out what kind of drives they have

[earnest olive]

can probably do it with the current pc

if it’s 10 years old it could even have an nvme slot lol

actually no that would be 9 years old not 10

but it’ll definitely have sata

for if he goes hard drive route

[dusty cedar]

he did say that he has the drive type that was before sata and the only thing that comes to mind is ide.

[potent portal]

A 3070 is about 60% of the fps at the same settings as a 4070 ti even

[stoic island]

prices are just pretty sad

[dusty cedar]

is it this drive that you have?

https://cdn8.bigcommerce.com/s-a1x7hg2jgk/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/3649/18121/western-digital-80.0gb-3.5-ide-hard-drive-wd800bb-21.24__20854.1489939114.jpg?c=2&imbypass=on

[rugged swan]

yes that is a few of them

[dusty cedar]

or this one?
https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.a50a28d37e32993af15a9c8f3f54bf4e?rik=e0YGBmMt24ZQhQ&riu=http%3A%2F%2Fmicrodream.co.uk%2Fmedia%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fcache%2F1%2Fimage%2F9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95%2F7%2F1%2F71bmlz3sras._sl1500__1.jpg&ehk=C72YhPIhbpwJSUevchhfISf5bsRtXegKadfrOh4neWY%3D&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

[rugged swan]

and yes that one too. I think it would be the time to copy that data over to a new drive so I no longer need a new computer with those avaiable.

[dusty cedar]

yeah you'll need a converter or adapter in order to transfer data from the hard drive in the first picture to your new computer

[potent portal]

Luckily those adapters are cheap

[rugged swan]

I have one of those usb type plug in's for the drive. It may take time but I think I can just copy over and

[dusty cedar]

yeah you can also do that

gonna take absolutely forever but it can be done

[rugged swan]

time is something I can provide...

[earnest olive]

what’s the total capacity of your stuff in your old drives

[potent portal]

Oh the jumpers, another thing I totally hated besides the IRQ. Cleaning your computer? You need to move the ribbon out of the way. Forgot which end went to which drive? Cross your fingers it works at all because if you plug a secondary master into the secondary slave it just won't detect.

[rugged swan]

Honestly not very much data. Just multiple old drives with info I would like to keep. I would say less then 1TB but really like this idea on the NVme drive. Never heard of it before and seems like a great one.

[earnest olive]

you could just grab a cheap 1tb sata hard drive to consolidate them if it’s not data that requires particularly fast access

which it probably doesn’t if you’ve been fine leaving them on IDE hard drives

[verbal plover]

Ok I got uh

[earnest olive]

well

just looked at the prices of hard drives in canada

and for those prices you might as well just do 2tb ssd lol

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/WPKRd9

[rugged swan]

you get used to the fact we pay a hell of a lot more in Canada.

[earnest olive]

also I forgot to reply to this earlier but I don’t have the machine anymore

but if it was doing mid 60s in cinebench can't imagine it would go above 70s in small ffts

[verbal plover]

got the motherboard in

now I'm trying to do the cables that were in the case

big confused tho

[cursive wharf]

With CAN PCPP the prices are typically not great compared to looking at the sites themselves

[verbal plover]

where tf

[cursive wharf]

Usually gotta goto CC/ME/BB site and search for good prices.

[earnest olive]

[verbal plover]

bro the manual is so hard to read

it might as well be chinese

[cursive wharf]

Get a PDF version, search F_PANEL

[verbal plover]

oh

but like the pins don't match

[earnest olive]

left side

plug it into the left half

[verbal plover]

omg ty

[earnest olive]

👍

[stoic island]

Smallffts should saturate faster too

My old 3800x did like mid 70s in cinebench and jumped to 90s with smallffts lol

But that was r20, r23 might be better

[verbal plover]

is this the right hole

the plug itself has no label and I don't see it in the case manual uhh

[dusty cedar]

what does the actual plug look like or better yet, where is the other end of that connecting to?

[verbal plover]

one of the front io things

I'll take pic of the plug end

it seems like it goes in that hole

I'm doin it

[earnest olive]

yes it is

that's front usb-c

[cursive wharf]

USB 3.2.2(x2) header, typically type C on cases

[potent portal]

It's not always x2 though a lot of boards are 10Gb on that port so it's x1

[cursive wharf]

Thus the brackets, meaning sometimes

[potent portal]

Ah that's what that meant

[cyan ravine]

@ornate condor so when are we gonna see your real build

[potent portal]

What, is there a 4th one now?

[verbal plover]

almost done i think

just need fans and gpu whew

what a workout this is

[verbal plover]

the fan daisy chains are confusing me

[dusky hearth]

connect them together

[verbal plover]

why does the thing have 2 argbs

[dusky hearth]

plug one into mobo

[verbal plover]

like

it has one argb for the motherboard, and one that has pins

whats that one for

[dusky hearth]

for daisy chaining

[verbal plover]

but

its only on the last one

like the other 2 fans are already daisy chIned

[dusky hearth]

still probably for daisy chaining lmao

[verbal plover]

bruh

[dusky hearth]

each fan probably has like, 3 cables? fan, rgb, rgb daisychain?

[verbal plover]

uh

[dusky hearth]

hmm

kinda hard to tell what those connectors are from that angle lmao
it's likely to still be for daisy chaning another rank of rgb fans

there's not really anything else that it could be

[verbal plover]

So like

if u have 2 sets of 3 fans

nvm idfk

do u connect it to the second set of fans

cuz I have 6

[dusky hearth]

probably can be more? it seems like you connected that last cable to that last fan cable?

your images have made it more ambiguous lmao

[verbal plover]

i

I'm a gamer not a photographer

smh my head

[dusky hearth]

lmao

[verbal plover]

so is it ok to just

not have the one plugged in?

[dusky hearth]

yeah

i think that wide connector is a sata power connector? also ignore that one i think

[verbal plover]

alright

yeah its sata

why ignore it

[dusky hearth]

you're gonna be powered through the fan header

and the argb header

[verbal plover]

so why does it have a sata

[dusky hearth]

probably for people that don't have a fan header? i'm not too sure

some fans used to come with a fan header, and molex

might be a similar situation as that

[verbal plover]

so sata can just power fans on its own?

0_0

[dusky hearth]

yeah, but no fan speed control

[verbal plover]

imagine

ok I won't plug them into sata

[dusky hearth]

it's the sata power, not the sata data cables lmao

[verbal plover]

gotcha

[dusky hearth]

if fans/rgb isn't working properly though, it might be the sata power, but it's highly probable that it's wired to be using one or the other

[dusty cedar]

did your motherboard come with a manual?

[verbal plover]

Are the screws for fans supposed to be hard to tighten?

[verbal plover]

Nope! Mine didn't, I was surprised

But you can just find the manual online

[dusty cedar]

what motherboard is it

[verbal plover]

z790 aorus elite ax

[dusty cedar]

after you have everything together and you boot it up youre gonna need these drivers....

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z790-AORUS-ELITE-AX-rev-10/support#support-dl-driver

also....

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_z790-ae-series_e_221118.pdf?v=672a72e0a0eed6a8be6ff24ef4d196fb

the manual is gonna have a pin guide to your motherboard. just plug things in where they're supposed to go, hide the wires and you're ready to boot up for the first time, run your bios and get your drivers installed and then os

youre over thinking things. computers are easy to put together. its like lego bricks. they all snap together.

side note. unless you have 4 sticks of ram don't stack them right next to each other.
x-|-x-|
where the x means don't put anything there

[verbal plover]

@dusty cedar So uh

the rgb pins from the fans are 3 pin

all the led headers on the mobo have 4 pins

uh

well there's two 3 pin headers but they're taken by the case's 2 led plugs

bruh

I guess I have to choose between case rgb and fan rgb

until I get a fan hub or something

[earnest olive]

the fans all have argb daisy chain

do the argb cables coming out of the case not?

what case is it?

[obsidian wolf]

Will it burn?

Don’t mind cable management please I am just trying to get the computer running at this point

[earnest olive]

what do you mean by will it burn lol

[cyan ravine]

Preferably run 2 pcie cables instead of 1 daisied

[earnest olive]

what are we looking at

[cyan ravine]

It won't burn but you'll have more redundancy

[dusty cedar]

sorry i was playing among us while waiting for a download to finish.

[obsidian wolf]

Does this mean unplugging it again

[paper summit]

Yes

[obsidian wolf]

Or find a way to slide that cable in there

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[cyan ravine]

Just unplug one of the gpu cable plugs

Then run a second cable

[dusky hearth]

fans don't have threading, the screws self tap into the fan

[verbal plover]

actually the case ones are both in one, and the AIO fans are in another. Case is O11 dynamic evo

[cyan ravine]

@verbal plover you'll want an argb controller

One sec

[earnest olive]

if he managed to daisy chain the case rgb then it's fine

[verbal plover]

I think my old pre-built might have one actually

[earnest olive]

no controller needed

[verbal plover]

nono they already were

[earnest olive]

then it's fine

[verbal plover]

what

I'm still missing 2 3-pin slots

[earnest olive]

?

[verbal plover]

like

[cyan ravine]

Something like this will help

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/rgb-accessories/masterfan-argb-and-pwm-hub/

[earnest olive]

is the case rgb daisy chained or not

[cyan ravine]

The case doesn't daisy chain also it's like, 30 lights in the strip

[verbal plover]

yes its taking one of the argb headers, and the aio are in the other

and the other 2 led headers are 4 pins

[cyan ravine]

Yeah you need a hub mate

[earnest olive]

that should be fine? aio should only need one header for the whole thing

[dusty cedar]

you should have more than enough headers to run your rgb and fans?

specs list and your manual says it has 2 rgb headers, 2 argb headers, 3 system fan headers, 1 cpu fan header and a pump header

[cyan ravine]

He wants his fans rgb to work too lol

[verbal plover]

hold on

[earnest olive]

the fans have daisy chain

[verbal plover]

my old pre-built has something ill send pic

[cyan ravine]

Yeah and how many fans are we talking?

[earnest olive]

me running 132 leds off of one header:

[verbal plover]

damn its blurry

[cyan ravine]

You can literally take that and use it

[dusty cedar]

thats all argb right?

[earnest olive]

check the power cable on the bottom

[earnest olive]

hopefully it's just sata and not some proprietary crap

[verbal plover]

its connected to sata i think

[cyan ravine]

Unscrew that and use it

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[earnest olive]

then sure probably works fine

you probably don't need it

but doesn't hurt

[cyan ravine]

Dragons how many fans have you got