#building-and-recc-chat

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twin sequoia
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I mean it’s good, I just like top-tier

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Has 7 fans in case

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I wasted so much time trying to get exact details on this build but it’s like very custom… idk it’s weird

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Also Lenovo is starting to make GPU’s I think the 4080

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Idc about brands for my custom build so much. I just want min/max all parts. Will definitely be OC’n

upper condor
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Starting at “B560”

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You have B460 :)

twin sequoia
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Oops… sleep deprived. I just saw the b part haha

vale veldt
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My family bought me this as a gift before college

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People are telling me they got scammed

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Because the 4000s series laptop are coming out

cyan ravine
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looks not too bad considering it's a 16 inch

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yes the 4000 series laptops are about to come out so that'll make that laptop make a lot less sense but in the current market, not bad

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strix will be strix price tho tbf, you're going to pay a little premium for that extra quality

obsidian wigeon
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^

dim forge
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Hello

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So, I tested my recently bought gpu (2060) on my friends PC bc I haven't built mine yet.
Video works fine, furmark no thermal throttling whatsoever and the games had no stuttering. The thing is, there was no sound, we thought It was the headset but my friend replaced the gpu and then the headset worked just fine

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Is there anything wrong with my card or perhaps is a config issue or smth like that

sudden cave
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So am I going to have to buy a new psu? @rugged anvil

rugged anvil
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dunno, ask your question here though. i don't know much about psu's

sudden cave
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It’s not loud

rugged anvil
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someone else here should be able to guide you though on your unit

stoic island
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You can prob fit in 13600k 4090

wanton tundra
mossy venture
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Yes, for gaming

stoic island
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CPU wise, 13600k will do fine for gaming, but for other tasks, it'll be a noticeable difference in CPU performance, but the upgrade from 4080 to 4090 is a decently significant upgrade in GPU performance

mossy venture
cyan ravine
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reference is loud

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also asrock z690 pg riptide has flashback and cheaper

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better vrm

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that flare x ddr5 can be samsung too

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imo spending $30 for an aib XTX is extremely worth it

potent portal
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Works pretty well with AMD chips as a side note, just like D4 B-die

cyan ravine
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imo I would put $10 in for a pair of sticks that have the potential to run much better for a good few more years than a pair of samsungs that mostly cap at 6000/6400

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hynix m continues to get faster, KP boards are up to 7400 with it

empty pollen
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@dim forge probably the pc switch to hdmi audio on the gpu

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You just have to set the default output audio again

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On the windows sound mixer

dim forge
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tyvm

raw yacht
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Do all am5s still take 1 min to post? Did they fix that or is it some mobos

empty pollen
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First boot yes

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Memory training

raw yacht
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Or all boots? From Guru3d:
"The first time you startup the PC the BIOS will do memory training; this can take a few minutes. Once you move the BIOS to EXPO mode (the optimal SPD timings) and restart, it'll train again. Once trained you're looking at POST times of less than 30 seconds, which is still too much IMHO. Stability-wise we had no issues, but of course, since AMD provided these kits, they've been extensively tested for compatibility. This isn't any criticism by the way; for both Intel and AMD, with the start of a new architecture, it's racing against the clock to get memory kits compatible at a firmware level." Can we confirm ?

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I have switched from RTL to AM5 in my new build because of 3d series chip support, but this is discouraging

empty pollen
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Bios was upgraded on am5 long ago

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Now only first boot take that long

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Also switching form rpl to am5 is a severe waste of money, at least to me

raw yacht
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Haven't bought it yet

empty pollen
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Oh

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" i have switched...."

raw yacht
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Rtl is inefficient unless you underpower it to like 70 watts plus is a dead platform

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I did switch. I switched my build plan

untold vessel
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Hey guys, what’s that incredibly OC’ed-to-the-max GPU company overseas that is the secret best of the best?

raw yacht
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Most are Chinese. Evga is the last us one I know of

untold vessel
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For example people brag about the strix

empty pollen
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Maybe he is talking about the hall of fame cards

untold vessel
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But there’s one overseas that has some crazy $3000-$4000-$5000 GPUs that are OCed to HEAVEN

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do you guys know what I’m saying?

raw yacht
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Really curious now

untold vessel
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It’s kind of like googling a song without the lyrics

raw yacht
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The googling shall commence

untold vessel
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But I had a conversation about them about a year ago with the pros of this server

empty pollen
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Galax my friend

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Galax make the hall of fame cards

untold vessel
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How do I see this hall of game cards

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Hall of fame*

empty pollen
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HoF 4090 as an example

untold vessel
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Wait

raw yacht
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It's a diamond 3dfx voodoo

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That's what you wnat

empty pollen
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Google it ceraso

untold vessel
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THIS might be it!

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Galax!

empty pollen
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Hof cards are meant for extreme oc

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Much like the kingpin cards were

untold vessel
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I remember seeing an AIRCRAFT CARRIER sized GPU that was distinctively $1000 overpriced

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KINGPIN

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that rings a bell too!!!

empty pollen
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Kingpin was the evga counterpart of the hall of fame

raw yacht
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Galax is from Hong kong

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With a name like galaxy microsystems I'm not surprised

empty pollen
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Are you aware that most gpus come from hong kong xD

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Msi, asus, you name it :P

raw yacht
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Gigabyte

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All the same

empty pollen
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Kinda, yes

obsidian wigeon
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just to add

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the extra power consumption of raptor lake cpus won't even make much impact on power bills

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unless you plan to pair it with something like 4090 lol

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and run it 24/7

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under constant full load

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besides sure, it is going to be dead end platform- but i wouldn't buy into promises either

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amd is promising future upgrades, yet look at their past shenanigans

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300 series am4 boards almost lost support for 5000 series cpus

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cause amd decided to cut it off, breaking their promise in the name of profit

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big companies aren't to be trusted, what matters is get what's best for your budget, use case at the time and worry about the future later once you do need to upgrade

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im not saying intel is better than amd, they can still be scummy cause yes, they're not a charity

leaden mauve
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well the product series is hof

bold prism
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Anyone know the cheapest 3050 or 3060 gaming laptop on market is rn?

obsidian wigeon
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if you can

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i would hold out for 40 series laptops

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they're launching soon

plucky timber
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imagine how power efficient they would be

humble fossil
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hello

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this? or

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for i5 12400f

cyan ravine
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Neither

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You can get a z board for less and that's just inherently better because it's a z board

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Try gigabyte b660m aorus pro AX

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That's about as premium of a board I'd go with that cpu

obsidian wigeon
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i would instead go with z690 pg riptide if wifi isn't a need

cyan ravine
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Honestly that then a 12600KF if it's cheap enough with a dual tower

obsidian wigeon
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yep

humble fossil
mossy venture
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The ratings are irrelevant

limber oyster
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My PC is too powerful 😂😂. It broke the TV at work

upper condor
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How hot is too hot for GPU hotspot/memory junction?

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Mine sits around 90-95C for both under full load

mossy venture
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That's fine

empty pollen
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110 is too hot

fossil cedar
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Depends on the memory type g6x is rated for 110c and g6 for 100c iirc but imo under 95c is fine

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Although ofc cooler the better

digital nebula
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PC's running smoothly, funny part is now i can see like alot of pixels on my mw2

digital nebula
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my system doesnt support resizeable bar.. sadge

bold stone
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@fossil cedar ik its not your field

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But I gotta deal with my ps4 slim now

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Any idea why it can only run like 40 fps

potent portal
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Is the hard drive full

bold stone
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Nope

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500/800 gb

fossil cedar
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i knew close to nothing about consoles ngl

bold stone
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Yeah thought so

fossil cedar
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last console i owned was the wii

bold stone
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W

potent portal
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What game is it? Some newer ones are targeted at the PS4 Pro and the older ones don't run as well

bold stone
potent portal
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Ark is no surprise tbh

bold stone
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Yeah

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Solid 20 fps

brittle tinsel
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My friend had a blackout through the night I guess, when he woke up his pc wouldnt power on. he was able to get it to power on with 1 ram stick he reset the cmos and put all the ram back in. the computer is on all lights are on RGB and everything. but his monitors are not displaying. his keyboard and mouse also arent getting power

potent portal
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When's the last time it was cleaned?

bold stone
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Apperently normal according to my mom and playable

bold stone
brittle tinsel
potent portal
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Try that one stick on the other slots to see if it's the sticks or the channel that died

bold stone
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Drops to 30 and 20

brittle tinsel
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4 works too..... is it possible to get a bad slot but the channel is still ok?

potent portal
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Yes that's possible

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Usually from physical damage, which a short circuit could qualify as

brittle tinsel
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are all AM4 processors the same?
he has a spare motherboard he was looking to upgrade down the road but he has a r5 2600 currently. the motherboard is a b550 msi tomahawk.

also can you use 3 ram slots or will that slow it down?

potent portal
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Yeah any AM4 processor should work on any AM4 board in theory. Double check the compatibility lists if it's a B350 board or something, it would probably need a bios update or 3.

brittle tinsel
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its a b550

potent portal
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3 slots is fine, the way that works is 2 of the sticks run in dual channel mode and the third runs in single channel

brittle tinsel
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yeah but Ive heard running dual channels messes with the memory controller or something. he had 4 sticks in so I didnt know if 3 sticks would slow the memory controller down anymore

potent portal
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Dual channel is faster

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I checked the compatibility list for the B550 Tomahawk and it doesn't support 2000 series chips

brittle tinsel
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oof. alright, ill break the news to him. he may just be stuck with 3 sticks of ram for a bit.
australian electricity seems to suck. this is the 4th PC issue they both have had after a blackout. they lost a gpu to it and a power supply

potent portal
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I recommend a UPS to fix that long term issue

brittle tinsel
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well.... he just tested with all 4 sticks in and it boots...

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im lost

potent portal
bold stone
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Thanks dyno

plucky timber
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i should get a ups at some point

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or just stick to laptops

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at least with laptops

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worse case scenario i drop to 30fps

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with no ups

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save data go boom

potent portal
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Get a laptop that does USB C charging, a massive USB C battery bank with passthrough, and a UPS. All the battery.

plucky timber
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mine does

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i can probably charge my laptop off a car if i was desperate

potent portal
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The advantage of that setup is the PC doesn't know it's on battery power and runs full tilt kekw

plucky timber
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but cars don't usually have 100w usb pd charging

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so like

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i can charge it off a car but not game off it

plucky timber
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infinite power

potent portal
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Asking for 8A from a 12V outlet is a bit much lol

potent portal
plucky timber
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there should be a new usb standard that allows me to power an entire gaming pc with usb

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or more efficient gpus

potent portal
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1kW USB PD wen

plucky timber
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at that point i would worry about wire gauges

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imagine causing a house fire with your 1kw usb charger

potent portal
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Imagine how giant that charger would be. Basically the size of an ATX power supply.

plucky timber
potent portal
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At least sff

plucky timber
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should just be built into the wall at that point

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the thing i like about usb pd tho

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i can just bring my small pd brick with me

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instead of bringing the massive asus brick every time i want to charge my laptop

zenith cargo
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I bent my 5v 3p (only one pin), I was able to unbend it but I don't think it works anymore

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rgb cpu fan doesnt read it anymore

south cliff
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for some reason somtimes my monitor flashes like a white bar only on my main monitor not my second and i have reinstalled driver could it be the monitor

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i think i fixed it

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nvm

dim forge
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Huh

tepid roost
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@potent portal what's the command for the ddu info

jolly riverBOT
limpid barn
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does anyone have any video recs on cable management basics? about to build my second pc and want to do it right this time

keen bobcat
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It is time

dawn iron
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when building my pc ive heard ppl say you dont need to pick an operating system but have been confused on why

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like on pc part picker

calm oyster
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I AINT PAYING 2.5K FOR A FRIGGIN ROG 6950 WHEN I COULD JUST GET A 4080

earnest olive
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not a rog aio either

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or a rog case

languid nimbus
desert gulch
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Id be willing to bet that's not an rog PSU either

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Def corsair

jagged ember
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obviously linux is free, and hackintoshes are only possible if you already bought a mac

dawn iron
jagged ember
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nope

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don't buy it unless you absolutely abhor watermarks

dawn iron
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nah i just need somethin for games lol

stiff dome
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CPU: i5 6600k
GPU: Geforce GTX 1070
RAM: 16gb
Motherboard: ASUS Pro Series ITX w/wifi
Storage: 250gb Samsung SSD and a 500gb WD Black HDD
OS: Windows 10
PSU: XFX 850w
Case: Thermaltake V100

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For 500 cad is this a good deal or no?

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Cpu Ryzen 3100 (wraith spire cooler)
GPU Msi Ventus 1660 Super
Ram 16GB Spectrix D60G
500GB crucial ssd
550Watt psu
4 Corsair fans with rgb controller that works with Icue software or this for 650?

tepid roost
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@potent portal where's felix

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Idk his name now

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also my audio stopped working on my pc plugs after I changed everything

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my mic is still working via usb and I plugged my headset into that but it's not working on my front ports nor my back ports

tawdry lance
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So, what exactly is that 4 pin cable next to the 8 pin cpu? I do not think my PSU came with a 4 pin cable.

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Oh nvm, the cpu power cable can split to be a 4 pin. I feel dum.

potent portal
tepid roost
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idk why my audio not working bruh

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mic working fine

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and headphones plugged into my mic working fine falcie

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normally my headphones show up as realtek speakers

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or something like that

potent portal
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Felix is Fish Flakes right now btw

tepid roost
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ok

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good

tawdry lance
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Can I use the CPU power cable as a PCIE power cable?

empty pollen
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no

potent portal
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Only if you like fire

empty pollen
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not only the connector is different (cant physically plug it into the wrong socket) but the voltage on the pins are different

tawdry lance
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Oh ok, thank you so much.

rugged quarry
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have a friend that recently built his pc, cpu has been running way too hot at roughly 90-94C

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what are troubleshooting steps/potential causes?

potent portal
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What CPU and cooler?

rugged quarry
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r5 5600x, and he is using an stock cooler that came with r7 3700x

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was my old one I never ended up using

potent portal
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That's pretty normal for a stock cooler

rugged quarry
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oh dang fr??

potent portal
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It needs a high airflow environment to even keep it at stock performance

rugged quarry
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hes running 3 front facing fans + 1 exhaust

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definitely not a lot

tepid roost
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falcie

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that's not normal for a stock cooler on 5600x at all

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85 or so was the highest I hit on stock 5600x

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with only 2 fans aside from cpu fan

potent portal
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Best step I can suggest is a $20 tower cooler

rugged quarry
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94 def seems high, thought that is when cpus can get damaged or start to effect performance

potent portal
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Yeah it's a tad high but nowhere near dangerous

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Platform thermal limits are very far from anything that could cause permanent damage

rugged quarry
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ahh okay, he told me sometimes games would crash and he'd notice temps got high, you think he should just get a basic tower cooler or AIO setup

potent portal
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Basic tower cooler yeah

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AIO is overkill

rugged quarry
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got any recommendations?

rugged quarry
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whatr are expected temps with that ?

potent portal
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Probably closer to the 60s, maybe 70s if it's a hot room

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It'll be a lot quieter too

rugged quarry
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dope for sure, thanks

potent portal
earnest olive
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since thermal throttle point is at 90C

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94C and crashing indicates a catastrophic failure, not just "slightly higher than 90C"

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a cooler upgrade would still be beneficial

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but i am pretty sure the prism is mounted incorrectly

obsidian wigeon
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^

strong raft
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$20 was always worth it to me, even if only for sanity thnx to low noise vs some stock coolers. What's funny is price I paid in 08 for early direct heatpipe tech.

dense phoenix
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How do the coolers perform in today's standards

obsidian wigeon
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probably not very good now

potent portal
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They're not as bad as you think but modern processors tend to give off more heat and in a denser area, which the old coolers don't expect

hazy ruin
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Hey i have a question about m.2 storage when i install into motherboard one m.2 storage i can add second m.2 storage in the future please answear me

cyan ravine
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If there's a slot for a second one sure, and if the chipset is happy to accept a second one without issues

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Some boards have limited chipset lanes so they disable other stuff (normally sata) to make the extra m.2 slot work

hazy ruin
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wait a sec

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ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING

cyan ravine
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You can definitely fit 2 on that one

potent portal
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You have 2* M.2 slots

cyan ravine
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There's also pcie slots for even more m.2's

hazy ruin
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because i have now a 256gb storage but i can i want have it only for windows and i want buy a 1tb m.2 storage for games programs ...

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and i don't know if there can be any problems

potent portal
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(Stupid specs page is formatted weird and looked like it had 3 for a minute)

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That'll be perfectly fine

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Just pop in the new drive and open disk management, select GPT, then right click the drive and create new simple volume. Just hit next through the prompts.

hazy ruin
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okey if i'm going to have any problems i will write here

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Beacuse it going to be my first pc build

upper condor
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Having a strange issue. I noticed my hard drive wasn’t being detected so I took out my PSU made sure everything was connected etc etc

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I put it back in

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Now whenever I try to start it up, I see the lights on my GPU connectors light up for a split second, the front fans start up for a second, I hear a click noise then it all shuts off

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But for some reason the RGB on my ram works and stays on

mossy venture
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Double check all connections

upper condor
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On PSU and Mobo I assume?

weary galleon
upper condor
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Huh

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Seems like having my hard drive plugged in causes it to not turn on

strong raft
dim forge
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guys, did the 13100 have any big gains from 12100?

cyan ravine
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Not really iirc

dim forge
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hmm so the "big" jump is from 12400 to 13600 isnt it

cyan ravine
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The raptor lake parts start at 600 iirc ye

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12400 to 13400 is a big jump but not for games

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Basically a 12600k in a new box

potent portal
fossil cedar
dim forge
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I'll probably just get the 12400 then

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budget king

potent portal
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Yep

tepid roost
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@cyan ravine I got my new gpu cpu and psu in

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everything working good tho when I played some games they stuttered at first but I figure it's just cause it was my first time running them

cyan ravine
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Can do

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Stuttering now?

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Sometimes the first run the pc is just caching everything so it stutters a bit ye

potent portal
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Yep building that texture optimizing cache can take a bit, some games do it before you run it the first time and it just looks like a really long load screen.

tepid roost
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yeah It seems to be fine now

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also felix for some reason

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my headphones aren't showing up after changing everything

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and Ik the headphones are fine themselves cause when I plug them into my mic they work

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I'm wondering if maybe I didn't plug something in for the front ports

cyan ravine
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Likely

tepid roost
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also my cpu fan doesn't have rgb for some reason

cyan ravine
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There's a hd audio plug

tepid roost
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despite being plugged in and everything

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yeah I have that plugged in

cyan ravine
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Hmm not sure then

tepid roost
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it's in the bottom left on my mobo

potent portal
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Did you install the HD audio drivers

tepid roost
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I updated drivers

potent portal
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From the motherboard support page?

tepid roost
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lemme try that

potent portal
tepid roost
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which app do I open

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the set up or rtlupd64

potent portal
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setup

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That's the win11 one btw

tepid roost
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bruh

potent portal
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Didn't know which OS you had

tepid roost
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Im 10

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why did you wait to saw lol

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say*

cyan ravine
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He didn't wait

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He just remembered

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We do that a lot here

tepid roost
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he waited like 20s lol

tawdry lance
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So downloading games seem to spike my CPU temps more than actually playing the game. Is that normal?

tepid roost
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I already started it

cyan ravine
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Yes because he probably just remembered the detail after the fact

tepid roost
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ok I need the win 10 one lol

potent portal
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Wait... Win10 is the same package

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Sorry

tepid roost
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uh

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lool

cyan ravine
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It's realtek

tepid roost
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most likely?

cyan ravine
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The installer is out of windows xp

tepid roost
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ight I'ma restart pc and try my headphones

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hope this works

potent portal
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Games, especially at 1440p+, aren't as CPU intensive

tawdry lance
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Oh ok, seemed weird when my cpu was spiking to 80 C when downloading, but 60 C when actually just playing games.

tepid roost
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falcie they still not showing up

potent portal
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Yep, remember that it's not just copying data off a server, it's getting a compressed file, extracting it, and writing the uncompressed data while verifying it all at the same time

tepid roost
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I have the razer blackshark v2 x

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so they wired

potent portal
tepid roost
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nope

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not in device manager either

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maybe I need to turn my pc off and just make sure the hdaudio is all the way in

empty pollen
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a screenshot could help

tepid roost
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of what

empty pollen
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to see your audio devices on the device manager

tepid roost
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sound settings?

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ok

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print screen easier but I can snip if you need me to

potent portal
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It's there in device manager

empty pollen
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yup

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you should have that output on your mixer settings

tepid roost
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which one

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the blacksharks aren't there

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my mic is

empty pollen
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this is mine as an example

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win 11 ofc

tepid roost
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are you talking about the speakers that mine says?

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cause that's my mic

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I have my mic in 7.1 surround set to that

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so I can have sound still

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the hidef audio device is my monitor

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cause it's defaulting to that

potent portal
tepid roost
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falcie

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only the input shows up not the output

empty pollen
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which options do you have on your sound mixer?

potent portal
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It's disabled

tepid roost
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yes that's the input falcie

cyan ravine
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This looks like a razer issue

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Not the first time I've seen it before

tepid roost
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nothing shows up even when that's enabled falcie

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for audio I mean

cyan ravine
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Surround screws with sound inputs up down left and right

tepid roost
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never had this issue

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want me to turn surround off rq and then replug or something?

cyan ravine
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Uninstall surround

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Disable it

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Then try

empty pollen
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to me it sounds like your blacksharks are faulty

tepid roost
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ravell

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they work just fine

cyan ravine
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No it won't be the blacksharks

tepid roost
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working when plugged into my mic

cyan ravine
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The surround software is known to have issues

tepid roost
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ok lemme try that

cyan ravine
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Which blacksharks are these McFlurry?

tepid roost
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v2 x

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the wired ones

cyan ravine
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Ah yeah

empty pollen
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those are 3.5mm i think

tepid roost
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yes

cyan ravine
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If I'm not mistaken, those have issues with surround due to not being usb

tepid roost
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weird that they just started if that's the case but we'll see

cyan ravine
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I used to lurk the razer forums, I have a lot of experience in this matter

tepid roost
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still nothing

#

I exited surround

cyan ravine
#

I'd suggest dolby surround instead

empty pollen
#

i have the krakens and they work just fine

cyan ravine
#

No disable razer surround

empty pollen
#

however these are usb

cyan ravine
#

Don't just exit it

#

Uninstall it

tepid roost
#

bruh ok

cyan ravine
#

The sound driver persists even with the app closed

tepid roost
#

ok uninstalled

cyan ravine
#

Control panel > sounds and hardware > sounds > input and output, right click razer surround and disable both

#

The v2 x working in the mic port both input and output is correct

tepid roost
#

?

cyan ravine
#

That shows it works as intended with surround out of the picture

#

Some front panel jack ports also don't have the poles to support dual channel audio

tepid roost
#

I don't think that's the issue

cyan ravine
#

So it's one of two things

tepid roost
#

7.1 isn't showing in the sound thing so it's gone

cyan ravine
tepid roost
#

says my realtek speakers aren't plugged in tho

#

um

#

they were working until yesterday so

#

and I didn't switch mobos

cyan ravine
#

Then it can be realtek failing to install properly

#

Another issue which sometimes even fixes itself by attempting a reinstall of the driver 50 times

#

That issue plagued my X570S aero G

tepid roost
#

also

#

why does my pc still have really old cpu drivers

cyan ravine
#

Cpu drivers?

#

Chipset?

tepid roost
#

nvm idk

#

one sec

#

back to audio

#

should I try reinstalling realtek again?

cyan ravine
#

Go for it

tepid roost
#

ok

cyan ravine
#

It's extremely iffy that it works properly on some boards

tepid roost
#

also

#

would my headphones not still show up at least on their own as a device?

#

regardless of realtek working?

potent portal
tepid roost
#

No way to know if they're my headphones then really?

potent portal
#

There's test sounds you can play on each audio device in the audio control panel

tepid roost
#

yes ik

#

I meant by looking at it

potent portal
#

Not from looking at it no

cyan ravine
#

3.5mm doesn't have a means to identify the headphones

potent portal
#

Except that it'll be something something realtek

tepid roost
#

ok

#

nothing still

#

realtek is showing up

#

not in selection for audio just in device manager

#

also something else to note

#

my back ports aren't working with the headphones either

#

could that mean it's just something not plugged in properly on my mobo @cyan ravine ?

cyan ravine
#

Nope

tepid roost
#

or would that make it so my headphones wouldn't work even plugged into the mic?

cyan ravine
#

Welcome to the lottery of realtek

#

Try installing again

#

Until it works

tepid roost
#

I really don't think that's it

#

ok

#

idk anymore

cyan ravine
#

It's dodgy like that

tepid roost
#

all cause I switched to amd :\

cyan ravine
#

This is realtek not AMD

tepid roost
#

I joke

potent portal
#

This is just the usual onboard audio problem, Intel that uses Realtek has the same issues

tepid roost
#

I heard a tiny bit of static when I plugged into the backport on my pc bruh

#

thought it worked for a sec

cyan ravine
#

The static also realtek kekboom

tepid roost
#

BRUH

#

I could always just use my headphones on my mic for now and saw screw realtek

cyan ravine
#

Totally sounding like a realtek issue rn

#

Surround not part of the problem anymore

#

Would suggest dolby surround btw, it's better

potent portal
#

I don't even bother trying to get onboard working any more, I just use USB DAC

cyan ravine
#

Agreed

tepid roost
#

I didn't get USB headphones lmao

#

Didn't think it'd be this stupid

#

The black sharks are good for the price too :/

cyan ravine
#

It's not the headphones tho

tepid roost
#

Yea

potent portal
#

Super flaky even when you do get it working, might just stop randomly because it decided it doesn't like your new desktop background

cyan ravine
#

If it works fine in the mic jack it's realtek being a goof

tepid roost
#

But USB headphones wouldn't have this issue would they or would they still

cyan ravine
#

Usb wouldn't

potent portal
#

No that would use another driver completely

cyan ravine
#

But again so would other mobo audio codecs wouldn't have the issue either

tepid roost
#

Should I plug the headphone splitter into the mic jack or just the single cord itself into the mic jack

cyan ravine
#

Splitter doesn't do anything afaik

#

It just sends a high pitched noise through the speakers

potent portal
#

Splitter just divides up the poles

tepid roost
#

Ok I'll try that then in a sec

#

felix

cyan ravine
#

Wha

tepid roost
#

I plug the headphones into my pcs mic jack and it should have sound?

#

wdym

cyan ravine
#

Again, the realtek installer is super iffy

potent portal
#

Mic is supposed to be input, not output

tepid roost
#

felix make sense for me

potent portal
#

"supposed to be"

cyan ravine
#

All 5 plugs can be customised to do whatever on the newer boards

#

Try the green plug

potent portal
#

Interesting, I haven't messed with it in a long time

tepid roost
#

mine doesn't have a green plug but Ik which one because of the static and the realtek app

cyan ravine
tepid roost
#

and plug the headphone or the mic in or either one into the green plug/line in

#

or just the cord without the splitter ig

cyan ravine
#

Green should be LR

#

No splitter

tepid roost
#

lr?

cyan ravine
#

Splitter won't do jack

#

Kekw

#

I specifically remember trying to get someone to work a splitter with this exact headset and it resulted in a loud high pitched scream

#

The choice is yours if you're game

tepid roost
#

so

potent portal
tepid roost
#

I plugged just the cord into the jack in the back

cyan ravine
#

There's 5 jacks but ok

tepid roost
#

the one that would be the green technically

#

I can try all 5 lol

#

theres 6 including the red one also

#

for me

cyan ravine
#

The green

#

Ok and what happens

tepid roost
#

once again there's only a red the rest are just black but yes

#

nothing showing up

#

not for mic or headphones

cyan ravine
#

Reinstall again

#

Literally

tepid roost
#

does this mean it's guaranteed the realtek drivers then?

#

cause if so I'ma just deal with it tomorrow

cyan ravine
#

It's highly likely

tepid roost
#

I hate hearing the static as if it's working when I plug into the port

#

on the back

#

stupid

south cliff
#

My monitor kidnda flicks a white line sometimes and i dont know why

#

i tried ddu

#

still the same thing

tepid roost
#

felix I will try tomorrow

#

makes me think I should just buy some usb headphones soon

cyan ravine
#

Usb should definitely not have this problem

cyan ravine
jagged ember
#

if you have the audio console installed correctly, it should prompt you to choose what you plugged in on the back

cyan ravine
#

Yes, if correct

jagged ember
#

unless you've got notifications turned off

cyan ravine
#

Realtek plays the lottery on install

jagged ember
#

yeah, it kinda does

cyan ravine
#

To the point of madness sometimes

jagged ember
#

it do be like that sometimes

south cliff
#

no white lines

potent portal
#

It's usually the cable yeah

#

I have a hdmi that finally went bad too

south cliff
#

its not like bad but sometime it gets annoying

potent portal
#

I started getting a harsh full screen flicker that would sometimes reset my window layout while gaming, super annoying

torpid sorrel
#

my sister is looking for a laptop because he old one is broke she does like fabric designing kind of stuff so she wants a good about of space she said 1tb would be good so is this a good computer for the price?

#

thats what she picked out

obsidian wigeon
#

heck nah

#

that's not good

languid nimbus
#

Oh god

#

That’s awful

#

Like

#

Really really bad

torpid sorrel
#

ok

#

what would you recommend?

#

im not good with laptops

languid nimbus
#

not a 1650 lol

obsidian wigeon
#

1650 for 1k is way too much money

torpid sorrel
#

ok

languid nimbus
#

If she’s got a 1k budget, you can get a pretty decent laptop for that

potent portal
#

For design apps you'll want something that's color accurate primarily

torpid sorrel
#

ok

obsidian wigeon
#

1k has something good for that

torpid sorrel
#

what would you guys recommend?

#

also idk why but she hates macs

potent portal
#

Understandable kekw

obsidian wigeon
#

It's fine, there's good windows laptops too

torpid sorrel
#

other one she picked out:

obsidian wigeon
#

all these choices doesn't have great screens with high color accuracy

torpid sorrel
#

ok

cyan ravine
#

You can add extra ssd space easily so don't feel confined to 1tb laptops

torpid sorrel
#

ok

cyan ravine
#

If not add then an external ssd which is affordable

torpid sorrel
#

k

#

or she can just use my old desktops 4tb hdd as a server

#

??

obsidian wigeon
#

i don't have time to look right now, but will try once im back

torpid sorrel
#

idk

#

ok

#

ill look too

cyan ravine
#

Try looking up the TUF FA507RM

torpid sorrel
#

thank you!

torpid sorrel
cyan ravine
#

3060

obsidian wigeon
#

zm works too

#

z just means intel cpu

torpid sorrel
#

ok

obsidian wigeon
#

also do include the exact model in there, that one is ES73

torpid sorrel
#

ok

#

so this?

potent portal
#

Well too bad they don't like Mac because used M1 pro would actually be a good option

obsidian wigeon
#

true

#

m1 pro is powerful

torpid sorrel
#

idk why they dont like macs

obsidian wigeon
#

abobe software works with macs

#

if that's what they use

torpid sorrel
#

and they can also just use bootcamp

cyan ravine
#

Try find it with a lower Hz screen

obsidian wigeon
#

bootcamp sucks

#

and it doesn't exist with arm chips

torpid sorrel
#

ok

torpid sorrel
cyan ravine
#

Actually what you found is pretty good tbh

torpid sorrel
#

ok

cyan ravine
torpid sorrel
#

is the display on it good?

cyan ravine
#

Ye

#

Not the greatest but great enough

potent portal
obsidian wigeon
#

meh

#

not very well

#

emulation tanks perf

#

it's still more than usable but it's definitely a significant drop compared to running macos

potent portal
#

Wait did M$ really just put x64 Windows into a translation layer

torpid sorrel
obsidian wigeon
#

yes

potent portal
#

That can't be what they did that's so lazy

obsidian wigeon
#

it's literally that

potent portal
#

omfg

obsidian wigeon
#

give it some drivers

#

translate arm to x86

torpid sorrel
obsidian wigeon
#

job done

potent portal
torpid sorrel
#

yeah fair

potent portal
#

Retailers and OEM resellers still have a lot of supply

obsidian wigeon
#

sd 845 is officially supported on win on arm but it's horrible as you can probably tell

#

mobile soc from 2018 lol

cyan ravine
torpid sorrel
#

ok

cyan ravine
#

1079 is a good price for the laptop you linked

torpid sorrel
#

ok

#

so best i can get for the price?

cyan ravine
#

It'll be very close to it yeah

torpid sorrel
#

ok

cyan ravine
#

6800H is a beautiful cpu

torpid sorrel
#

should i tell her to buy it?

cyan ravine
#

What's the total budget?

torpid sorrel
#

i think 1k

cyan ravine
#

Hm

torpid sorrel
#

but i bet she'll go over by a little

#

but then

#

the boss

#

tax

languid nimbus
#

Are you anywhere near a microcenter?

torpid sorrel
#

nope

languid nimbus
#

Darn

cyan ravine
#

Hm

#

Oooo

#

Best price yet

torpid sorrel
#

it ships

#

🥳

cyan ravine
#

So the model I was thinking of is fa507rm-hn008w

#

But that one looks great for 1K

torpid sorrel
#

ok

cyan ravine
#

You can buy a 500gb ssd and upgrade it for like $30 anyway

torpid sorrel
#

ok

cyan ravine
#

Team mp33 or silicon power a55

torpid sorrel
#

alr

#

so which does she buy?

obsidian wigeon
#

nitro 5 smol batt

languid nimbus
#

I think I’d still go with the original one from microcenter tbh

#

Yeah true

obsidian wigeon
#

54 wh

torpid sorrel
#

ok

#

ill tell her

#

thank you so much!

cyan ravine
#

Then get a team mp33 512gb/silicon power 512gb/external 512gb ssd for cheap

torpid sorrel
#

ok

cyan ravine
#

30 over budget for something like, 2-3x better than what you showed us is a good improvement imo

torpid sorrel
#

yeah

#

thank you!

cyan ravine
potent portal
#

How's the color accuracy though? I see 100% DCI-P3 but nothing beyond that

#

Oh wait someone tested it: 99.8% sRGB, 84.0% AdobeRGB, 97.4% DCI-P3

cyan ravine
#

It's alright

potent portal
#

Yeah that's acceptable

cyan ravine
#

Like I wouldn't say highest end

#

But it's good

#

That's if my 144hz panel is any way similar

potent portal
#

Too bad laptop display calibration is limited to software

torpid sorrel
#

ok

zenith cargo
#

is a 4070ti worth ut

#

it

cyan ravine
#

Good 1440p or 4K card ye

limber oyster
#

What thin fans do y'all recommend for a water cooking system? Wanting white or RGB

cyan ravine
#

Wouldn't recommend thin at all if you can avoid it

#

Significant performance drop when you make the fan thinner

limber oyster
#

With regular fans they don't fit inside my case with the GPU

#

I plan to rotate it so that those fans are actually intake...

potent portal
#

P12 slim, ez

limber oyster
#

But I can't do that if the fans are external

cyan ravine
#

So they fit if they're on the outside?

potent portal
#

Or, well any of these 3 but P12 slim is cheapest

cyan ravine
#

What fans are you using there

limber oyster
#

ID-cooling stock fans that came with the aio

#

But I plan to switch over to custom loop.

#

I plan to do a 280mm, a 240mm, and a GPU water block as well

cyan ravine
#

What parts?

#

I see what looks like a radeon RDNA2, 6650xt?

#

Board seems rather low end, 5600?

limber oyster
#

I7-9900K and a XFX Speedster QICK 6650XT tho I plan on getting a 6700XT

cyan ravine
#

What board is that???

limber oyster
#

ASRock h370M-HDV

#

I do plan on replacing that as well....few fan headers, few USB headers, no ARGB headers

#

It was cheap and was next day delivery so I went with it

cyan ravine
#

That vrm....oof

limber oyster
#

Yeah

#

Unfortunately for 1151 micro-atx boards....there's few affordable options

cyan ravine
#

I would stay away even from PL2 on that board tbh

#

Run it really power capped

limber oyster
#

I have OC set to auto

cyan ravine
#

Yeah like, don't at all push the chip on that board

limber oyster
#

Like I said I just needed something cheap

#

I plan on replacing it kater

#

*later

cyan ravine
#

It's got a 4 stage vrm

#

Likely 2+1+1

#

Doublers

#

That is like, 90W max territory

#

Hell maybe even 3+1?

potent portal
#

That's gonna gonna get HOT

cyan ravine
#

Def stay well away from PL2

#

90W max is my recommendation

#

For the GPU, I have a much cheaper suggestion if you don't mind the look

#

Deshroud, zip ties, T30's

#

Will make the pc very quiet

#

You can then use p12 slims on the aio

#

The pc will be very quiet

#

Like, watercooling is good to make the system quiet, but you need a far better bpard for that chip to run it in a scenario where water cooling will benefit it

#

As far as gaming goes it's likely not kneecapped at all even at the lower power since it's a 6650xt

#

Deshrouding and fan modding the GPU, and using slim fans on the aio with a power cap would be what I'd do, unless you can find a Z board or better vrm matx

#

Imo not really worth that unless cheap

limber oyster
#

I'm honestly thinking of saying F it, and going 10th or 11th grn

#

*gen

#

Especially with the 1151 motherboard prices

cyan ravine
#

Tbh a 9900K sells ridiculously high for it's age

limber oyster
#

Oh ik

#

$450

cyan ravine
#

You'd be better off with a 12400F and an matx board

limber oyster
#

I'm glad I'm reusing my old one

cyan ravine
#

Sell the 9900K, get a 12400F

#

You'll be doing better overall

#

There's a lot of good matx options too for lga1700

limber oyster
#

Selling 9900k on eBay would get me a 10th gen and a board

potent portal
#

It would get you 12th gen and a board

#

Which is a lot better than 10th

cyan ravine
#

12th gen will be better than a 10th gen

#

Even if it's an i5

potent portal
#

12400 > 10900k in games

cyan ravine
#

I mean granted, it's a 6650xt

#

But fwiw a 12400f is very good value

#

You could run that under an aio with slim fans easily

#

Do that and then just deshroud the gpu

#

You'll get a dead quiet system without spending a bunch on a block (prolly bykski if I had to guess) for a gpu that doesn't really need it

limber oyster
cyan ravine
#

You're gonna have a bigger problem with an lf2

#

The rad is very thick

#

Much thicker than normal aio sizes

potent portal
#

It's an extra 10mm thick even

limber oyster
#

Lf2?

potent portal
#

So you'd need the slimline fan just to break even on the overall profile

limber oyster
#

Ohh

#

That LF2 is what I'm running rn

#

That's what's cooling my 9700k

cyan ravine
#

I see an id cooling?

limber oyster
#

Wait...give me a sec

#

Ahhh...I edited an old list

#

There

cyan ravine
#

For cheaper than that you could have a better gaming chip that runs less hot

#

Multicore I believe they're not far apart too

#

If you change to a 6700XT...I still say deshroud

#

T30's are the cheap fix vs hundreds for water where you'll have equivalent improvements

potent portal
#

12400 still trounces the 10700k for less money

cyan ravine
#

Yeah

potent portal
#

And less power usage, which in turn means less heat

cyan ravine
#

Less on the power bill

#

120W multicore vs 250W-300W

limber oyster
#

I'm not paying the power bill, my work is 😎

potent portal
#

Still, less power use means you can also get a cheaper motherboard without worrying about burning a hole in it

cyan ravine
#

Well the mobo will cost a little more tbh

potent portal
#

Like there's a risk of in your current setup

cyan ravine
#

But $160 cpu vs $288

#

Then 120 mobo vs 99

#

One would need a better, worse fitting aio, the other could use a stock cpu cooler lol

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

Still cheaper

potent portal
#

Oh yeah def

cyan ravine
#

B760m prolly even better too

potent portal
#

Don't even need to get more memory but you could with the savings

limber oyster
#

Better built?

cyan ravine
#

Yeah better

#

12600k claps 10th gen

limber oyster
#

I almost wanna go Ryzen. The only reason I went Intel was I already had a i7 9700k on hand

potent portal
#

You'll need to upgrade to Windows 11 if you haven't already but that's simple enough

limber oyster
#

I'll need to?

potent portal
#

If you do 12600k yes

limber oyster
#

Why need?

cyan ravine
#

Scheduler

potent portal
#

The thread scheduler for the e-cores

limber oyster
#

.....

#

Eh

#

That's gine

#

*fine

#

I haven't even activated windows yet

cyan ravine
#

Honestly I'm used to w11 now

potent portal
#

tbh you don't have to activate

cyan ravine
#

I still hate the menu but you can apparently change the menu

limber oyster
#

I'm using w11 at home on my....$4-5000 pc

potent portal
#

M$ just wants you to think you have to activate

#

But they really couldn't care less about home users since they make up a VERY small portion of their licensing sales, business getting the $4000 a month server licenses are where they make money.

limber oyster
#

Mhm

#

How would this compare?

potent portal
#

5800X isn't worth it, either do the 5700X for the same performance or the 5800X3D which competes with the 12700k (and often wins)

limber oyster
#

Will the board support the CPU out of the box if I buy it new?

potent portal
#

That board has flashback so it doesn't matter, you can flash without a CPU

limber oyster
#

👍

#

And if I change board/CPU I can finally run Bluetooth!

#

And run my ram higher than 2133mhz

potent portal
#

Keep in mind the 5800X3D doesn't care what speed your memory is because of it's massive cache but the 5700X is heavily affected. 3600 is optimal.

limber oyster
#

I'm 400 miles away

limber oyster
potent portal
# limber oyster I believe I got 4000mhz cl14 for like $90. Was on sale.

That's nice memory but you'll need to manually set the speed to 3800 and fclk to 1900 for optimal performance. Ryzen 5000 usually tops out there without decoupling fclk. If you go faster and it tries to stay synced, you might get hardware errors (WHEA) and if it desyncs then you get a massive latency penalty.

limber oyster
#

.....OMG! Thanks for that information

#

That might've just helped me fix my brothers pc

#

He keeps getting a WHEA error code

#

We're gonna have to try that in the morning

#

Maybe set it to 3200mhz and 1600 fclk. His are rated for 3600mhz. Gonna try to go down

potent portal
#

3600 should be doable on any Ryzen 3000-5000, try manually setting SoC voltage to 1.15V

#

Should be right below CPU core voltage

limber oyster
#

We'll give it a try

#

I've been trying to get him to join here so he can give more information, but he is adamantly against it cause he thinks y'all will just say "buy new part" without actually trying to diagnose or fix

potent portal
#

Can't blame him for that since a lot of communities would do that. Especially Reddit.

limber oyster
#

I don't trust Reddit anymore

#

Too full of trolls

#

Worse than Twitter

analog hearth
#

I swear Reddit is the Internet’s limit

#

you’ll find smart people and a whole lot of dumb people at the same place

obsidian wigeon
#

reddit is only worth going for hws listings

#

asking for tech advice there gets mixed results

#

some even pc breaking mistakes

#

or intentional trolls

analog hearth
#

I think it’s great for solving tech issues. example: instead googling “pc won’t turn on”, type “pc won’t turn on reddit”

#

I had audio issues on my laptop. couldn’t find a solution until I did that

obsidian wigeon
#

true

#

just gotta dish out the trolls

#

they're fairly obvious tho

#

and are usually deleted in most cases

analog hearth
#

r/shortcuts for example

#

I always see people making a Shortcut in the “Shortcuts” tab asking whether it’ll automate

#

there’s an “Automation” tab as soon as you open the app

#

literally looks like this as soon as you open the app and they don’t go to the Automations tab before asking

limber oyster
#

Got my fans inside

raw yacht
#

Can anyone confirm the Intel 255 LAN controllers on the new AM5/1700 boards have been fixed with the new fw update? I just read a review that said otherwise...

fossil cedar
#

Not like am5 is really relevant yet anyway

raw yacht
fossil cedar
#

I'm not wrong

raw yacht
#

lmao

#

except 7000x3d has the potential to best most of intels metrics at this time

#

but the execution is to be seen

#

i decided against 1700 for this exact reason although i had a 13900k in mind

limber oyster
#

Yes, potential

#

That doesn't mean they're relevant or mainstream yet

raw yacht
#

but why buy a processor that is guaranteed within 2% of the competition when the competition can surpass it many fold over

limber oyster
#

A 3600 Ryzen is more mainstream rn

raw yacht
#

it's a pretty easy bet

limber oyster
#

That's not what mainstream means...

#

But ok

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Mainstream means that it's actively being used by a good percentage

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I don't even think the 7000x3d is out yet. As such it CANT be mainstream

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It's as mainstream as the new Titan RTX card

raw yacht
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seems like a nonargument

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idk, my point was on potential. of course something unreleased will be irrelevant to the mainstream

limber oyster
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Nvm

cyan ravine
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Also don't count the chickens before they hatch, they're starting with the 2 CCD chips, which they say works but we could well have performance issues (Like W11 performance which still isn't fixed)

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7800X3D will definitely be quick though

leaden raft
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SilverStone Technology SX1000 Platinum, 80 Plus Platinum 1000W Fully Modular SFX-L Power Supply, SX1000-LPT-X V1.1 https://a.co/d/7TATfXK

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This any good?

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Wanting to switch to a Sff psu for my meshlicious build and I can’t find the Loki from a reputable buyer

cyan ravine
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V850 SFX gold from cooler master is very good

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Unless you need even more power

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What specs is this build?

raw yacht
brittle tinsel
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Cmos batteries are just watch batteries right?
Would I be able to buy a matching battery and swap ‘em?

fossil cedar
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and the 7800x3d not even out til april 💀

brittle tinsel
manic cloak
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anyone here able to help me with a cpu issue?

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i don't know if it's normal for my cpu to fluctuate speed like all the way down to 1.57 in idle

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i've never seen it do this, usually stays constant around 4.4

potent portal
manic cloak
potent portal
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If you want

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If you set windows to high performance power mode it won't drop the speed but will use more power

brittle tinsel
# potent portal Yep any 2032 battery will do

Well after asking him to explain the issue I don’t think it is cmos.

When he goes to power the pc on a blue light flashes next to one of the smaller pcie slots. It will not boot at all he has tried different ram placements and clearing the cmos.

The board is a b150 msi gaming m3.

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I can’t find anything about what that light means and it’s not listed on ez debug

potent portal
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B150 is pretty old and the battery probably needs to be replaced anyway if it hasn't been before

brittle tinsel
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Alright. They recently replaced the power supply because it would power on but any strain on the graphics card it would power off. Then it was solid for a few months and then they had a blackout and both their computers started having issues.

wispy wind
brittle tinsel
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Can someone walk @wispy wind through how to update his bios? He has one from 2015 last installed

potent portal
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Was he the one with the B150 Gaming M3?

tepid roost
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falcie

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amd stupid

empty pollen
tepid roost
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can't use instant replay

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just won't work

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Im just gonna get obs

empty pollen
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streamlabs best

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change my mind

gentle pollen
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Hello, I am going on a airplane tomorrow and I was wondering if you guys could give me some tips of how to travel with my M.2 drives and GPU.

empty pollen
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just pack them well and send it on the cargo bay

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no rocket science

gentle pollen
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I am thinking of putting them in my backpack and maybe wrapping them in bubble wrap.

empty pollen
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any way works

gentle pollen
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Got it.

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No static concerns?

empty pollen
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as long as you discharge yourself before handling, everything will be fine

gentle pollen
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I only have normal bubble wrap.

gentle pollen
empty pollen
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yeah, push them against a wall 😛

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grounding will do the discharge for you