building-and-recc-chat

[fossil cedar]

That one was a worse case scenario before i looked at laptop pricing

[cyan ravine]

guys I think it was I5 12400f, asus h610 prime k, 2 of the 1x8gb 3200mhz Kingston for 25 each, 500gb Kingston nv2, deepcool cg540 case, msi ventus 1660 super, asus tuf 650w

no?

[plucky timber]

no i'm pretty sure it's I5 12400f, asus h610 prime k, 2 of the 1x8gb 3200mhz Kingston for 25 each, 500gb Kingston nv2, deepcool cg540 case, msi ventus 1660 super, asus tuf 650w

[fossil cedar]

@cyan ravine gpu choices lol

[fossil cedar]

Tis what i just said bonk

[cyan ravine]

tis what you all said

[fossil cedar]

Nono look closer

Oh wait i misread

[bold stone]

It's sad😔

[fossil cedar]

It's late okay

[plucky timber]

[fossil cedar]

My bad

[cyan ravine]

also that 3060 for 349jod wth

520usd

[fossil cedar]

I read the just 1x8gb one

[cyan ravine]

jfc

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[bold stone]

Yeah

[fossil cedar]

Dw 3060 8gb 3050 ti is 40 jod less

[cyan ravine]

I agree with Pato's build

if he approve the mobo I approve

going lower just sounds gross

as well as higher

lmfao

[fossil cedar]

Weird thing is the site sells 5600 but literally 0 am4 boards

[bold stone]

So can't cheap out on anything?

[fossil cedar]

The site doesn't let you lol

[bold stone]

That's cursed

[cyan ravine]

LMFAO

[fossil cedar]

They don't even offer i3s

[fossil cedar]

But they offer am5 boards 💀

[bold stone]

This is one of the best computer stores in Jordan 💀

[plucky timber]

unless you want to cheap out on psu and cause a house fire

[cyan ravine]

there's other computer stores??

[bold stone]

One but it seems overpriced

[cyan ravine]

Why don't you take a look at that one

maybe we find something

[bold stone]

Lemme give the link

Maybe we do a mix between both or smth

https://igeekjo.com

Have fun navigating this madness

[fossil cedar]

Felix you look i sleepy

[bold stone]

No other stores,these are like the only trustable 2

[cyan ravine]

WTF

https://igeekjo.com/products/pre-built-pc-7-core-i5-10th-gen-gtx-1650s-16gb-ram-500gb-ssd-h510

this looks great

[bold stone]

10th gen tho

1660 I got told is bad

[cyan ravine]

1660ti is the same as a 1660 super

and it's a 10400f

no slouch

[bold stone]

Is this better than what he built

[cyan ravine]

https://igeekjo.com/products/pre-built-pc-8-core-i5-10th-gen-gtx-1660ti-16gb-ram-1tb-ssd-h510

[cyan ravine]

not quite

but the prices look fine

[fossil cedar]

Much better

[bold stone]

What...

I'm confuseddddd

1am vibes

[fossil cedar]

10th gen still holds up and is plenty for your level of build

[bold stone]

So this a good option?

[fossil cedar]

Eh I'd go with the 10400

Yes

[cyan ravine]

this is my favourite so far, the 10400 one

just make sure it's 2x8 sticks

not 16x1

for the ram

[bold stone]

Is that configurable from them?

[cyan ravine]

you will need to call them

[bold stone]

I asked support something similar but they aren't responding at 1am

[cyan ravine]

there's no other way around this, you need to call them

[bold stone]

Ah

[cyan ravine]

or go and talk to them

[bold stone]

Is it drastically different

[cyan ravine]

JESUS THE MONITOR PRICES ARE GREAT HERE

[fossil cedar]

Dual channel (2 sticks) helps a lot

[cyan ravine]

odyssey g3 for 160

[fossil cedar]

Noice

Anything cheaper?

[bold stone]

Out my budget tho lmao

[cyan ravine]

an actually good dell monitor also for 160

[bold stone]

If I can't replace it do I pass

[fossil cedar]

Well its less out of budget than the other site

[bold stone]

Yeah ig

[fossil cedar]

Honestly no since you cant even match that price

[bold stone]

It's that good?

I thought its overpriced

[fossil cedar]

Basically what i gave you a list of for 70 jod cheaper and 500gb extra ssd storage

[cyan ravine]

they have the samsung ark but like 3 laptops

[bold stone]

Oh wow

[cyan ravine]

you could also do this https://igeekjo.com/products/playstation-5-digital-edition

tbh you'll get more power out of this than any pc we looked at

[bold stone]

I'd use the pc for mouse and keyboard and manh more games and video editing and my ps4 does good on low requirement games like fifa

[cyan ravine]

xbox series x will be a similar price

just saying, you can cover a wide gamut and have more gaming power with these consoles too

keep an open mind at this budget

[bold stone]

Hmm

[cyan ravine]

https://igeekjo.com/products/samsung-24-g3-odyssey-144hz-1ms-gaming-monitor-lenovo-l101-wired-rgb-soundbar-free-gift

https://igeekjo.com/products/dell-s2421hgf-24-inc-gaming-monitor-144hz

wouldn't consider any of the other screens

the second one is particularly good

iirc

[fossil cedar]

They're both v good

In there case is there not any cheaper monitors?

[cyan ravine]

not really no

maybe this for 10 more?

https://igeekjo.com/products/lg-24gq50f-b-ultragear-24-full-hd-165hz-1ms-gaming-monitor

[bold stone]

Bro guessed the price spot on

160 jod

[cyan ravine]

idk if I'd take that over the Dell one tho

https://igeekjo.com/products/razer-viper-mini-ultralight-gaming-mouse-8500-dpi-optical-sensor

https://igeekjo.com/products/redragon-kumara-k552-rgb

[bold stone]

@cyan ravine my budget is 30 for the k and m combined

[cyan ravine]

https://igeekjo.com/products/rasure-flashing-lighting-mouse-pads-rgb-blank-mousepad

[fossil cedar]

No need for that

[cyan ravine]

I agree

that's about all else I could find tho

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

[cyan ravine]

with this monitor

https://igeekjo.com/products/dell-s2421hgf-24-inc-gaming-monitor-144hz

[fossil cedar]

I think the other site had better peripheral pricing 1 sec

[bold stone]

@fossil cedar

https://citycenter.jo

[cyan ravine]

all up you'd get about 817 for a whole nice pc setup imo

[bold stone]

817

171 above my budget

Or no wait

[cyan ravine]

mhm

217

[bold stone]

The pc is 560

[cyan ravine]

if we look at city center tho

[bold stone]

Monitor 160

K and m 30

750 i think

[cyan ravine]

and to be clear it's 817 with what I've suggested, but all the choices are good

it's not just ragging up any thing that is barely passable

k552 is a decent budget keyboard, so is the mouse

the monitor is good

the prebuilt is very good

I would save up to afford that, or go laptop or console

[bold stone]

My friend told me he has a red dragon set up for 30 dollads from city cinter but he is asleep rm

[bold stone]

I can probs convince my parents to give md some extra money

And payback this year

[cyan ravine]

it's out of stock

[bold stone]

Never excepted to hear that sentence

[bold stone]

Oh rip

[cyan ravine]

k552 is 29 at city center

[fossil cedar]

Like this mouse would work for bit cheaper
https://citycenter.jo/computer-hardware/computer-hardware-peripherals/peripherals-mouse/mouse-wired/hp-hyperx-hyperx-pulsefire-core-rgb-gaming-mouse-usb?sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=50

[cyan ravine]

so take 6 off

take another 16 off

so 795

[bold stone]

Nice mouse price

20

[cyan ravine]

provided you can travel to the other place too

[bold stone]

10 left for k?

[bold stone]

Yeah i can

[fossil cedar]

If you don't mind 60% this is a nice price for a mechanical keeb
https://citycenter.jo/computer-hardware/computer-hardware-peripherals/peripherals-keyboard/keyboard-wired/redragon-k617-fizz-rgb-60-61-keys-detachable-cable-mechanical-red-switches-black?sort=p.price&order=ASC

Either that or 10 jod on a standard logitech keeb

[cyan ravine]

https://citycenter.jo/steelseries-qck-edge-63822-medium-stitched-edge-cloth-mouse-pad?search=mouse pad&page=2

good pad

[bold stone]

Im trying to not hit 200 jod to ask for, as thatll make it impossible

[tawny fiber]

Elitist hate this brand iirc

[cyan ravine]

mouse pad matters as much as the mouse itself so don't skimp on it

[bold stone]

I forgot about the mouse pad, F

[cyan ravine]

would pick k552 over this iirc

[cyan ravine]

we at 795

[bold stone]

Is there a cheaper kb than whaf pato sent

[fossil cedar]

Tru dat

[fossil cedar]

Red dragons decent

[cyan ravine]

what's the total amount for mouse keyboard and pad so far?

also headset my boi

you need to hear things

[bold stone]

No need

[cyan ravine]

well how will you hear?

[fossil cedar]

Personally i would too but some ppl like 60%

[cyan ravine]

no speakers

[fossil cedar]

Probably has headphones

[bold stone]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

ok

[bold stone]

You can connect normal headphones is what ive read

But canr talk throught them

[fossil cedar]

Correct

[bold stone]

Arw any of these 2 good or nah better stick to that we chose

[bold stone]

Yeah good enough

[fossil cedar]

Unless your case has a combined audio jack then you might be able to use headphone mic

[cyan ravine]

nah the 10400f one

[fossil cedar]

Nah 1660ti demolishes 1650 and is still a good chunk better than 1650 super

[fossil cedar]

3 have 10400fs bonk

[cyan ravine]

you're a bonk

I never looked at those

[fossil cedar]

1650 gets destroyed by a 1660 ti btw

[cyan ravine]

https://igeekjo.com/products/pre-built-pc-7-core-i5-10th-gen-gtx-1650s-16gb-ram-500gb-ssd-h510

this one

[fossil cedar]

It's really worth the extra 100 jod

[bold stone]

Does the site sell parts

Its a pain to navigate on mobile atleast

[fossil cedar]

If you can if not the 1650 would work i just don't see it happening

[cyan ravine]

1650 is barely better than integrated graphics now

[bold stone]

1650 is the biggest problem lmao... The price of this pc would make my life easier

[fossil cedar]

It's not that bad but well maybe like 6800u performance actually

[cyan ravine]

not like

is

it is

it's barely beating a 6800h/u

[fossil cedar]

Oh really?

Skull emoji

[cyan ravine]

yes

ama

I own one

both in fact

[bold stone]

Why is eveyrthing good with a catch😔

[cyan ravine]

imo you just need to consider a bigger budget

[fossil cedar]

Or the 3050 laptop for 630

[cyan ravine]

you could get an xbox series s and a monitor and be set too

[bold stone]

No 1650

Ig

[cyan ravine]

for 699 that looks great

[fossil cedar]

More expensive than the msi one felix sent

Ohh

I'm blind

Problem is it's 100 over budget

[cyan ravine]

all that for 699? you'd be saving almost 100 jod

[bold stone]

Lemme ask if its still available

[bold stone]

We just went like 160 over budhet

[cyan ravine]

but that looks like 1 stick of ram

💀

[fossil cedar]

Hence me saying the 3050 laptops actually a good choice because only like 50 over budget

Including mouse

[cyan ravine]

can't beat the laptops in Jordan

paying almost 20% more for the same performance or worse

[bold stone]

My other friend has a laptop

Something like 500 jod

He complains 247 about it

[cyan ravine]

I got tons of friends out of Asia and the Philippines using laptops

[fossil cedar]

Probably a crap laptop tho lol

Probably has like 7th gen i5 and 1050 or something

And 4-8gb ram

[cyan ravine]

hey btw did that 3050 laptop have 16gb ram

[fossil cedar]

Sí

At least it claimed to

[bold stone]

Wanna see the laptop I got rn

It's older than me

It's running paint just fine

[fossil cedar]

https://citycenter.jo/gaming/gaming-gaming-laptops/asus-tuf-f15-fx506hcb-new-11gen-intel-core-i5-6-cores-w-rtx-3050-144hz-windows-11-customized?sort=p.price&order=ASC

Oh actually

And upgrade ram yourself

Might even be within budget

[bold stone]

Upgrade laptop?...

[fossil cedar]

Yes you can usually add ram and storage

Wait

[bold stone]

You cant Upgrade anything else tho? Can you

[fossil cedar]

Ew 1650 nvm

[bold stone]

Lmfao

[fossil cedar]

No

Tuf laptop it is

[cyan ravine]

this beats everything we've looked at so far

even that 699 deal

[bold stone]

Even with the price?

[cyan ravine]

yes

[bold stone]

Bruh

[cyan ravine]

as you can see it's a 750 laptop for 629

[fossil cedar]

Idk if 3050 mobile beats 1660 ti desktop do it?

[cyan ravine]

it matches

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[cyan ravine]

oh desktop to mobile? lemme check

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i feel desktop 1660 ti would probs still win a bit

[cyan ravine]

nope nvm

kek

[fossil cedar]

Desktop win?

[cyan ravine]

[bold stone]

I think its a yes

[fossil cedar]

Believe so

But still beats 1650 desktop

[cyan ravine]

well try and see if that 699 deal is available

[bold stone]

Yeah

I asked them

They respond tomorrow ig

It's 2am doubt they respond

The store has good reviews on google

So that's good

[fossil cedar]

Might not get a response til Monday either

[bold stone]

Why?

I just changed my mind,I'm getting a Nintendo switch

[fossil cedar]

Because they might not be open on weekends

[bold stone]

Nah they do

They work till 11pm

Friday after 2pm to 11pm

Is the case good btw

[fossil cedar]

It'll do

[bold stone]

@fossil cedar any questions I ask them

About the offer

[fossil cedar]

If it's 2x8gb or 1x16gb ram

[bold stone]

Anything else?

[fossil cedar]

Can't think of anything

[bold stone]

Aight

Gn

[timber stump]

Hey y’all, I got this prebuilt at Walmart to hold me over a while ago, does can anyone point me the right direction in regards to upgrading it? I already bought more ram and an ssd

[stoic island]

What ram kit is in there now?

And how are temps?

[stoic island]

Main upgrade would prob be new PSU and GPU, depending on what PSU is already in there

[digital nebula]

whats the point of turning a drive into fat32? is it just because of the bios update needed?

[jagged ember]

Once you run windows media installer and choose a drive

It'll format that drive to fat32

In short, don't worry about it

[digital nebula]

so i dont need to format a drive into fat32 for doing a bios flashabk to update the bios?

[jagged ember]

No, the media installer does it automatically

[digital nebula]

ok

well i got the bios update i just need to move it to the hard drive that im using for it

[cyan ravine]

yes you do

for bios flashback you do or it won't read it

[digital nebula]

the drive that i have says its already fat 32

ok so i moved the bios update over to the drive do i want to extract it or do anything to it?

[plucky timber]

nah

[digital nebula]

@cyan ravine ?

i swear someone told me that id need to change the name of the file

[cyan ravine]

unzip the file

change it to MSI.rom

have ONLY that on the FAT32 usb

plug it into the bios slot and hit the bios button

[digital nebula]

so i dont need the sandisk crap on there?

[cyan ravine]

you don't want the sandisk crap on there

[plucky timber]

oh do you actually need to change the name

every time i flashed i just left it untouched

[cyan ravine]

depends

the instructions say change it but usually it works untouched

[digital nebula]

so my drive says its fat32 but idk

im just gonna wing it and see if it works

[cyan ravine]

it won't do the update unless it's happy reading it so you're fine

[marble whale]

is amd known for the graphics driver crashing or do i need to update it

[desert minnow]

I wanna upgrade motherboard so I can upgrade cpu any recommendations? I got a Z390 my build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/87Kvxs

[marble whale]

so a new motherboard and CPU?

[desert minnow]

just motherboard

with 1700 socket

I was looking at a z690 or z590

Are any off them good and worth a significant upgrade

[marble whale]

do you want ddr4 or ddr5?

[desert minnow]

doesn’t matter

what ever will get me more performance

I have ddr4 rn

[dim reef]

can someone make me an abt $1150 USD pc with monitor please (gonna be used for streaming and gaming)

aiming for 1080p, but if 1440p fits in the budget i’ll do that

ok

[marble whale]

i found this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GwRYcf/asus-tuf-gaming-z790-plus-wifi-d4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-tuf-gaming-z790-plus-wifi-d4

[desert minnow]

how much of an upgrade would it be

[marble whale]

whats the CPU you have or plaining on getting?

[desert minnow]

an i9 12 or 11th gen

why

im kinda still new to pc so i dont know a lot

fair enough

dont matter but ig 1000

just gaming

yes i need wifi

i dont have ethernet

[potent portal]

12600k easily beats an 11900k in every way

[zenith cargo]

Is a 4070ti worth it for 1080p 280fps?

[desert minnow]

i was originaly gonna go for a asus rog maximus z690 but i heard they where defective

[potent portal]

No you'll want a stronger CPU for 1080p but the most I'd go on GPU is a 3070/6750XT

[zenith cargo]

A have a 5800x

I*

[potent portal]

That reinforces my statement

It's a great cpu but at 1080p it WILL be the bottleneck

[desert minnow]

wym?

no

i was gonna upgrade to that

z390

bet

[marble whale]

i got this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZvBjYg

[potent portal]

13600k beats the 12900k in games

Plus i9 power draw and heat require further upgrades to PSU and cooler

[marble whale]

i was thinking a 1000w psu but idk

[dim reef]

yup

[potent portal]

With what GPU?

[marble whale]

his list had a 3060

[potent portal]

Then a 750W would be plenty

650W would be enough but 750 leaves upgrade room

[south cliff]

is the 13 13100f good budget for just strickly gaming

[potent portal]

It's an overclocked 12100

Literally

[south cliff]

is it worth than the 12100f

[potent portal]

Not unless it's the same price as the 12100

[south cliff]

they cost almost the same

its 125

[potent portal]

13100 is literally 12th gen cores, a 12100 with a 5% overclock

[south cliff]

well if its the same price then i guess its worth it

is it better than the 3600

ryzen 5

im pretty sure

[potent portal]

Yes but not by a lot

[south cliff]

i got a 12600k and a 6800 for tyhat

that

im asking for a freind he wants to build a pc

budget around 750

and he just wants a strickly white case

[desert minnow]

thanks bro

[south cliff]

dang

he wasnt even talking to me

does the 13100f need a cooler or is stock fine

@elfin flame could you build me a pc for 750? and put a white case in it

[obsidian wigeon]

13100f runs on stock cooler just fine

[south cliff]

ok

thanks

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7XmwQ6

i got this if you want to add anything

or remove something

[digital nebula]

OK so I ran into an issue. My aio doesn't seem to fit in the case even tho it supports an 360mm aio

[south cliff]

Case?

and aio

[digital nebula]

Phanteks eclipse g360a

And deep cool ls720 wh

[south cliff]

are you putting it in front or top

yes

[digital nebula]

Top

[south cliff]

what would you do ryzen 5 3600 or 13100f?

[digital nebula]

There's fans in the front already

[south cliff]

yeah

i guess he will just go with the case he wanted

but thanks

[digital nebula]

So I'd assume I'd have to move the fans to the top and then get the aio to go into the front?

[south cliff]

no

it fits on top

you got to put it in a certain way

[digital nebula]

Are you sure? Cause I've tried plenty times to fit it in both ways

[south cliff]

whatever is better performance

i will see in a sec

he gotta respongf

[timber stump]

Sorry I kept losing service I’m about to check

[south cliff]

yeah

show me a pic

of it not fitting

thermaltake s200 tg argb

[south cliff]

move the fan

and put it on top

and then screw the fan back on

ez

[digital nebula]

OK ig I'll try that

[south cliff]

i think thats what i had to do with my 360 on top

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dMp7jZ

it has a bios flashback button

will this be better and is the stck cooler fine

1080p

but it has more cores and threads

would be a game changer in like warzone 2

[potent portal]

I wouldn't be buying Zen 2 in 2023 so in a vacuum between the 2 I'd do 13100f

[south cliff]

but he plays like apex

[south cliff]

we on 5600g now

not 3600

[potent portal]

5600g games like a 3600

It has half the cache

[south cliff]

gulp

[potent portal]

Regular 5600 is much better

[south cliff]

but what would be more to last longer

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k9JJ9r

is this good

[potent portal]

Both are on dead platforms so no further upgrades can be done besides getting a higher tier chip

[south cliff]

so what would you do if you had to choose

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8HfQbK

these 2

[potent portal]

5600 has more cores than a 13100 so probably that

[south cliff]

but 67 dollars more than the 13100f build

[potent portal]

But the 5600 is more comparable to a 12400

[south cliff]

ok i will ask him what he wants to do and if he wants to do

[leaden raft]

yo can i get some help i put a 5000 chip in and now i cant get it to work

im trying to update the bios but it wont let me into bios

im legit looking at the screen that says press DEL or F2

tuf x570

[digital nebula]

I've kinda made progress. The front part won't clip in

Well I fixed that I just need to figure out how to get all the fans to fit in the case

[south cliff]

maybe put it the other way

so no fans are hitting it

[digital nebula]

Welp

[south cliff]

lol

[digital nebula]

Ok BRB gonna take another hour doing this crap

[south cliff]

dont take log like 8 screwsa

[digital nebula]

This is my first build so I feel like I'm breaking literally everything lmao

[south cliff]

your not

dont be scared that your breaking it unless you are

[south cliff]

how long have you been working on it

[digital nebula]

I got home around 8 30 so I started around 9 probly

[south cliff]

not bad for first

[potent portal]

I see that's a Ryzen CPU so you're already past the only dangerous part

[digital nebula]

What's bothering me is the aio never had a cover for the paste so it's kinda smeared

And I don't have anything to like wipe it off and use the paste I got

[south cliff]

its fine just be carful its kinda messy if it gets on your fingers

[potent portal]

Eh not a big deal

[south cliff]

dont touch your parts i learned the bad way

[jagged hill]

touch

the gomputer?

[digital nebula]

Oh also I need to move the fans around then cause I need the connectors facing the back

[jagged hill]

(graphics card)

[south cliff]

?

[jagged hill]

GomPUter like CPU being computer

joke name for graphics card

or graphics processing unit

[south cliff]

ah i just told him not to get thermal paste on his hands and touch his parts with it because it smeared

[jagged hill]

oh dang

touching pc parts after thermal paste sounds like a pita to chean up

[obsidian wigeon]

i never touch paste with my own fingers

cause well i don't need to lol

[feral citrus]

I basically have a whole computer after upgrading and I'm thinking about turning it into a server and wanted your guys opinion on if it will work for what I want to use it for, it's an i7-10700k 64gb ram I forget what mobo, and all I got to get is storage and a psu, thinking on a 1tb ssd and maybe an 850w psu, but I want to run a dedicated minecraft server with 32gb then maybe an ark server with the rest

[digital nebula]

Aio us in now I need to find out how to attach this fan

[south cliff]

which one?

[digital nebula]

The only one that isn't attached to the case lmao

The aio fan gets in the way. I could try to squeeze it in bit idk if that would allow it to work properly

[south cliff]

yeah you culd

it would work perfectly fine

[marble whale]

would a 4600G be ok for a small home nas with like 16TB?

[weary galleon]

no need for an 850w, other than that seems fine

[potent portal]

Just a NAS? You could run a Plex server off that, it'll be more than enough for a NAS.

[digital nebula]

Welp I forced it and it's somewhat put together. A short screw won't fit but the fans spin so I'm sure I'll be fine?

[weary galleon]

you should be fine. One of the fans in my case is held in place with a ziptie and a piece of cardboard

[potent portal]

Same, except no cardboard lol. Just dangles off a twist tie. It's the one for my memory.

[weary galleon]

out of my 5 case fans only 2 have all 4 screws

[leaden mauve]

my exhaust fan is held on with 2 zipties

[weary galleon]

zip ties are goated

[leaden mauve]

factual facts

[potent portal]

I prefer twist ties, don't need to cut them to adjust

[weary galleon]

yeah i use twist ties for managing cables

especially peripheral stuff behind/under my desk

whenever I buy something and it comes with one of those black plastic coated twist ties

[potent portal]

I never toss those, my wife makes fun of me for it

Zip ties are still good for things you want very secure though

[weary galleon]

under my desk I have a green one and a shiny purple one lol

desk has a metal sheet with holes so fairly easy to attach stuff

[desert gulch]

I'd like to see you twist tie the front grill on my car on

Zip ties >

[potent portal]

Twist tie + duct tape >>

[marble whale]

well and a ark server too but mainly a nas

[south cliff]

w my motherboard only has like 4

[cyan ravine]

I learnt my lesson, these are better than zip ties

you can cut something adjusting a zip tie

never again

but velcro straps >>>>>>

[potent portal]

Fair

But more expensive

[cyan ravine]

ye

[digital nebula]

OK now I'm stuck on the the thing that connects to the cpu

[potent portal]

The block? That sits on the CPU?

[digital nebula]

The screws I have need to be put on a back plate that is apparently suppose to be with the motherboard?

Unless I'm missing something

[potent portal]

You're right it would attach to the backplate.

[digital nebula]

I'm blind the back plate is on the plastic thing that I used for my motherboard lmao

I was about to say I don't have the back plate but I do

[feral citrus]

So maybe like a 400w or something? I was thinking 850 in case I wanted to add a small gpu, or would I even need a gpu?

[potent portal]

A small GPU like a 1060? That would be ok on a 450W as long as it's not a trash unit

This is about the cheapest I'd go, this one is cheaper than some lower power units right now https://www.newegg.com/raidmax-vortex-rx-600ae-v-600w/p/N82E16817152081

[feral citrus]

I'm just going to use this pc for a server, would I need a gpu for that? (I know very little when it comes to servers)

[potent portal]

The 4600g has one built in you can use

[feral citrus]

4600g?

[potent portal]

Oh that was someone else sorry

[feral citrus]

Ah got very confused😂

[potent portal]

Well you could use any CPU with an iGPU built into it to save money

So any i-series Intel that doesn't have a F at the end of the name or a Ryzen ending in G

[potent portal]

Technically speaking no you don't need a GPU but I do recommend some kind of GPU for a novice in servers, but if you use consumer hardware instead of server or workstation hardware it'll probably require a GPU anyway.

Ones integrated into a CPU count too like I mentioned above

[feral citrus]

Yea I've got a i7-10700k, 64gbs of ram and some kind of mobo that I forgor, but no gpu no psu and no storage

[potent portal]

If it's the K and not the KF then you're good, just plug a monitor into the motherboard

[feral citrus]

Yup just k, so then would I only want like a 400w or would you still recommend that 600w, and with storage a 1tb ssd should be fine right?

[potent portal]

The 600W I recommended is cheaper than any 400W I'd be comfortable trusting to not catch fire randomly

[digital nebula]

OK so I'm putting the psu together and none of my cords have labels on them aside from the pcie and a few others

This is what I have rn

[potent portal]

Do you have any sata drives or devices that use sata power like a fan hub? Or molex for that matter?

[digital nebula]

I have a molex one. I still need to figure out where to plug the fans in and what not lol

[potent portal]

Ok that would use one of the "peripheral" spots

Fans usually go to the motherboard

[digital nebula]

The molex?

[potent portal]

Yes molex is considered a peripheral plug

[digital nebula]

And what will thay plug into?

[potent portal]

It's pretty uncommon these days tbh

Oh did you not have a molex device?

[digital nebula]

I mean I don't think I do.

I only have an aio and 3 other fans

[potent portal]

Ok I misunderstood then

Ignore the molex

[digital nebula]

So is that all I need then?

Or do I need something for like my m.2 or something else

[feral citrus]

Got any hard drives?

[digital nebula]

Nope. Just an ssd

[potent portal]

M.2 connects directly to the motherboard

[digital nebula]

Which reminds me can I keep thay plugged in or will it wipe the ssd when I boot up the windows download if I can

[potent portal]

It won't delete anything you don't tell it to

[feral citrus]

Do you have stuff on the ssd that you want to keep?

[digital nebula]

Well I'm pretty sure it has all my games and what not on it that I mainly play Which I'm sure I can just re-download after I get the logins put in for my pc

[feral citrus]

And are you wanting to install windows to the ssd?

[digital nebula]

Well I had a flash drive to put the windows download through the pc

Also I have some other connectors that I can't remember what they're for

[potent portal]

Put up pics and we can tell you

[feral citrus]

Ah so correct me if I'm wrong @potent portal but when you install windows to a drive it needs to be wiped and formatted right?

[potent portal]

sata data

[feral citrus]

For connecting to a hard drive

[digital nebula]

Oh so I don't need them

[potent portal]

It doesn't need to be but Windows requires 3 distinct partitions to function, Boot, Recovery, and C

[digital nebula]

OK so I'm set on the psu tho I can put that in and just start connecting everything?

[potent portal]

Nope not if you're using M.2

Yep plug 'er in

[bold stone]

Is this worth it

699 jod

[feral citrus]

Maybe try tech deals?

[bold stone]

Wdym

[digital nebula]

My aio doesn't have a little command block for all the fans

[feral citrus]

The tech-deals channel

[digital nebula]

Would I plug them into like the cpu fan headers or something?

[potent portal]

Normally you'd be able to chain the AIO fans together and you'd use the CPU fan header

And the pump header for the pump block ofc

[digital nebula]

Chain them together??

Is that what these are?

It is what I need I'm pretty sure but I have no clue what some of these things plug into

[obsidian wigeon]

that's for rgb

fans are already daisy chained together in an aio from factory

[digital nebula]

Are you sure cause my aio fans have cords hanging from them and aren't chained

[obsidian wigeon]

i would need some pics

[obsidian wigeon]

any other cable?

[digital nebula]

2 others just like it on the other 2 fans

[obsidian wigeon]

im not sure if the fans can be chained in the aio

[digital nebula]

A video says you can daisy chain them but idk how

Oml I have to take the fans apart

I need to take them off the radiator

[bold stone]

@feral citrus sent there

[digital nebula]

So I daisy chained the fans where do I need to plug the last plug into?

Broim like going crazy with how I can't even find the plugs for all these things

I'm like trying to look it up panda I can't even find it on the msi website

[potent portal]

What model AIO is it?

That might be one of those weird ones that combines RGB and fans into one proprietary plug

[digital nebula]

It is I like daisy chained them but idk where to plug it into I just can't find the port for both the pump and everything else on the motherboard

The aio is deepcool ls720 white

[potent portal]

I think this cable breaks the weird plug out into standard connections for fan and rgb

[digital nebula]

Sp I take whatever plug I have left amd then put those plugs somewhere?

[digital nebula]

Are these at the top of the motherboard?

[potent portal]

The RGB and CPU fan headers usually are near the top yes

Then the SATA one goes to your power supply

[digital nebula]

OK so I'll need to a sata cable after all?

[potent portal]

Looks like it

Don't worry this is the hard part, all the wiring and cable management

Every company has a different idea on how to do it too

[digital nebula]

I was hoping to put this all together by tonight but it's just annoying

And just like my old mother oard it had locations of the different things on the motherboard online while this one doesn't

[potent portal]

Which board again? I'll look in your manual

CPU fan should be easy at least, it's near the CPU

[digital nebula]

Msi b550 a pro

If you can find it I'll look at it and get it put together without so many questions and what not bit I'm baffled I can't find any answers to this lol

[potent portal]

Yeah all you need is at the top/top right

[digital nebula]

So I got 2 of them in I have the Sata that needs to be plugged in and the other 5v that's like a male end

I'd assume I don't need to bother with that?

[potent portal]

That other male end is optional

If you had other things to chain

[potent portal]

It even shows it disconnected here

[digital nebula]

Oh.also I don't see a connection thay I can plug the block into. Cause I see where I need to plug the things in they just don't match

[potent portal]

Block apparently chains to the fans and then takes the PUMP_FAN header next to the CPU_FAN

[digital nebula]

Wow so I gotta take the top off again

[potent portal]

One fan maybe

[digital nebula]

Yeah I could just do that then

Well I'd jave to take 2 off cause I need to daisy chain those if I can

[unreal bison]

How does Dual M.2 slot on the motherboard works

I am so confuse

[potent portal]

Is that the one that lets you have 2 on the same spot on the board?

There's 2 connectors there stacked on top of each other

[unreal bison]

Can I use different nvme on Dual M.2 slot?

[potent portal]

I don't see why not

It's still physically a separate slot

[unreal bison]

I’ve been nearly run out of my 1tb storage

On the single slot

[digital nebula]

I can't tell which is the pump fan

[unreal bison]

And I am think not to get nvme enclosures because it’s to complicated for me. So I see there’s more nvme slot on my mb

That’s Dual M.2

[digital nebula]

And a three prong connection is fine on that?

[potent portal]

Should be able to just toss another drive into the other slot there

[potent portal]

Yes

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/589689072692494356/994365352412717106/20220616_191303.jpg

[digital nebula]

This won't fit u less it takes some force

[potent portal]

It will only fit one way, there's a "key" that makes sure you don't misalign it

Out of those 4 pins you want the left 3

[digital nebula]

Oh now it wants to fit

[potent portal]

Takes a wiggle sometimes yeh

[digital nebula]

OK now it's the sata cable and everything else

OK I think I just need to plug in the fans on the front of the pc and whatever is left from the psu

[feral citrus]

welcome to building a pc XD

[feral citrus]

also is there an easy way to see if my pc is detecting my aio fans, without having to go into my bios

[fossil cedar]

24 pin is my arch nemesis

[fossil cedar]

Hwinfo64

[feral citrus]

in windows+r?

[potent portal]

No it's a program

[fossil cedar]

No it's 3rd party

[feral citrus]

ah

https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

this the link?

[digital nebula]

I can't wait to literally throw away everything after this build and everything is working just fine. Like idk what I'm gonna do when I go to bed

I have so much crap sitting on my bed rn

[feral citrus]

i feel that i just upgraded and there are boxes EVERYWHERE

[potent portal]

Keep the box for the case so it's easier to transport later, just toss the whole pc in the box

Everything else can go though

[feral citrus]

i liketo keep the cpu, ram, and gpu boxes

but thats just me

[potent portal]

Some people like them for display pieces

[feral citrus]

i like them so if i sell my parts i have easy packaging later

also also which do i click

[potent portal]

I do the local US

[feral citrus]

👍

[digital nebula]

I can use the other 3 fan headers on the sys fan plugs right?

[potent portal]

Yes

[feral citrus]

so i opened and i wont lie, ive go about zero clue at what im looking at

[digital nebula]

What is this?

[bold stone]

Any1 got amazon with a credit card on it i wanna know how much shipping is

[potent portal]

Daisy chain for fans

[digital nebula]

Ah ok so I don't need that since I already got it all put together right?

[potent portal]

Shipping on Amazon is always either free or varies by your location

[potent portal]

Yeah you can use it later if you add another fan or something

[potent portal]

"Sensors Only" mode when you start it

[feral citrus]

ah

[potent portal]

7 categories down is motherboard sensors

Example

At the bottom there you can see fan RPM readings, a pump would read as a fan too

[potent portal]

CPU fan header and one system fan header appear to be occupied, is that right?

[bold stone]

Can you test for me?

I'm in Jordan

[feral citrus]

ive got 3 fans that came with the case, and an aio

[bold stone]

This pc looks super good

[potent portal]

Sure, I have a VPN so I can appear to be in another country too and trick amazon lol

[bold stone]

Would be appreciated

I wanna deliver to jordan

Amazon let me put jordan location

But no jordan store

[potent portal]

AIO is probably plugged into the CPU header and the case fans are probably on a daisy chain or controller, using one header

[bold stone]

Where is the problem...

[digital nebula]

OK I'm on some red pcie cables from the psu and the cpu cables from the psu

[feral citrus]

case fans are in fact not plugged into 1, they are plugged into many

case didnt come with a controller and there were 3 fan headers in the back of the case

[potent portal]

My VPN doesn't have Jordan as an option but it does have Israel

[digital nebula]

The pcie go into the gpu right?

[bold stone]

What abt Saudi arabia

Amazon has a Saudi Arabia store

[potent portal]

Yeah I have that

[bold stone]

I can give you a location in jordan

[potent portal]

What's the link for the PC

I'm virtually in SA

[bold stone]

ZORD MATRIX-1 Gaming PC Computer Desktop, Intel i5 10400F, DDR4 16gb DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce gtx 1660 super 6 GB VGA, M.2 NVME 1TB storage, Wifi ready & windows 10 pro 64-bit, Black https://amzn.eu/d/a7szFUs

I may build one myself but it's just there for the weight yk

If its too expensive then scratching it

[bold stone]

I'm irl in jordan

So I'd get it delivered to jordan

[digital nebula]

Does it matter what slot I put the pcie cable in?

And do I need to use both?

[obsidian wigeon]

that's daisy chained

use only one, and another from the psu if possible

[bold stone]

Is there a site to calculate how much amazon shipping is

[obsidian wigeon]

well you put everything in the cart on amazon

and proceed to checkout to check

[bold stone]

I got no credit card

[obsidian wigeon]

not actually pay

[bold stone]

Thats the problem

[digital nebula]

Wym by another one from the psu if possible? Like grab the other one that I have and put only one in the second slot?

[bold stone]

It doenst let me see the price if I don't have a credit card

[obsidian wigeon]

use another 8 pin cable that's not chained

[feral citrus]

whats wrong with using that cable?

[obsidian wigeon]

it can heat up and melt

[potent portal]

It can draw more power through it than it's rated for and, yes, melt

[digital nebula]

Both of the cables I have are daisy chained

[potent portal]

Just use one on each

[obsidian wigeon]

use one end of each cables

[digital nebula]

OK so I'll plug the other one in then boot the thing up see if it all works

[feral citrus]

ive been using a daisy chain for like 3 years and it hasnt melted

[digital nebula]

Should I get some paper towels and stuff to make sure my aio doesn't leak onto my parts?

[obsidian wigeon]

it depends on the gpu

if the gpu spikes enough to go over spec one cable can handle

it will melt

daisy chained pcie cable is still one cable

so it can only safely deliver power as if only one was connected

[feral citrus]

been running a 6900xt since november 2021

on a daisy and a single

[obsidian wigeon]

that's better than all daisy tho

explains why it hasn't melted

single 8 pin can deliver 150w

pcie slot itself that the gpu plugs in supplies 75w

so you have total of 375w of power to the gpu

[potent portal]

I used a random hotel's address to test

[digital nebula]

What does this cpu cable plug into?

[potent portal]

Top left of the board

[obsidian wigeon]

that connects to cpu power/eps

usually top left like falcie said

[potent portal]

I hate to say this but...
It's hiding behind the radiator

[obsidian wigeon]

oof, well that's gonna be a pain

[bold stone]

In Amman?

[potent portal]

Yes, a hotel in Amman

I tried Arabic text too (it's Arabic right? forgive my ignorance)

[bold stone]

Yes it's Arabic

And ita okay

[digital nebula]

I can't even get those cables to read the top left

Is there a way to extend it?

[potent portal]

I've had to run the EPS cable across the motherboard and under the GPU before lol

Yeah there's extensions you can buy

[bold stone]

Can I dm you a location

TO try

[potent portal]

Sure

It doesn't have to be your exact address

[digital nebula]

Well I can bring it up through the top I'd just jave to like twitch the cable and idk if that will do anything

[potent portal]

Not that I could do anything with that anyway

[potent portal]

It can survive a 180 degree bend, it's soft copper core

[bold stone]

I dmed you

[digital nebula]

This about as good as it'll get

Welp I lost a screw thay goes on the top of the case. Guess I just gotta hope it isn't in the rig somewhere

[digital nebula]

Well I got everything out together the top of my case just won't go on noe

[potent portal]

Because of that cable?

[digital nebula]

No the cable isn't in the way it'd the aio I got it to fit once or twice and now it just won't fit

My room is a mess lmao I gotta clean all this up in like 3 hours

And I work at 11 so after work today basically I'll be trying to finish the build for the final pictures and stuff. For not my aio is just gonna chill out on top of the fan and what not

[bold stone]

@fossil cedar hello bro

[fossil cedar]

Hi

[bold stone]

So

I figured amazon out

With the help of falcie

So remember the 699 jod deal

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[bold stone]

Can we get something better

From amazon

For a similar budget

Preferably 600jod (800USD)

Needing everything from monitor to mousepad

While accounting to delivery only,no taxes as I found out how to evade them

(Delivery to jordan)

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

it's either save more or laptop

[bold stone]

So it wouldn't be cheaper or something?

Than the offer

Like the exact same thing but cheaper

[fossil cedar]

Amazon US?

[bold stone]

Yes

You put your location somewhere in jordan

And some products sell to jordan

Ignore the customs

Look at the delivery and its price only

Can I get away with the 699 offer but cheaper from amazon

[fossil cedar]

Let me see

[bold stone]

Easier access for you

So they didn't tell me the k and m and headset brand

Neither speakers and the mic thing

But these are replacable/not needed

Need a postal code ftom jordan

?

[fossil cedar]

No it was okay i was just able to click deliver to Jordan

[bold stone]

Oh

That simple?

This is so sketchy

I've been getting some shipping ads

From the us to jordan

Lmfao

[fossil cedar]

I'm looking around for keyboard mouse, pc and monitor you can't do better for 800$ than your deal

Did you say you needed wifi?

Okay actually might be able to do something decent

[bold stone]

Ye

Internet is drilled in one place in another room

[fossil cedar]

@bold stone here's one for 820$
You'd actually be better buying the keyboard at that place you linked yesterday for 10 JOD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RY9Vzf

[bold stone]

The delivery tho

Wait

What a scam

[fossil cedar]

Yikes

[bold stone]

Ignore the 42 dollars

[fossil cedar]

Well that's kinda expected ngl

[bold stone]

That's evadablr

Evadable*

It's the global shipping

[fossil cedar]

You'd be shipped it half way across the world so

[bold stone]

Does uk amazon do the same thing

[fossil cedar]

Amazon germany might

It delivers to a lot of places

[obsidian wigeon]

as far as i know only amazon us ships globaly

[bold stone]

Lemme see

[obsidian wigeon]

okay so pato is right

amazon.de does deliver internationally

checked and said available for thailand

[fossil cedar]

Ye although probably similar issue with shipping

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

but probably less severe tho

considering the distance

[fossil cedar]

Yeah 33€ delivery on 100€ cpu

Not really

[bold stone]

Lemme see smth

220 usd overall

Citycenter is 5 dollars more expensive

Something are not available

@fossil cedar

Does this include customd

The 32 delivery

[fossil cedar]

Probably not

[bold stone]

Ok good

So uh

In trying to recreate the 699 offer

What's the name of this ram

[fossil cedar]

No point trying to recreate cuz you'll get different availability etc

I'll see what i can do but shipping is gonna cost a small fortune

[bold stone]

Maybe I get it cheaper yk

[bold stone]

I'm calculating with shipping

[fossil cedar]

Honestly i doubt

[bold stone]

Try uk amazon

It has more things

[fossil cedar]

Amazon uk is gonna be worse

[bold stone]

Why

[flint sapphire]

[fossil cedar]

Cuz they're outside eu you're gonna have to pay tax and import duty

[bold stone]

Germany is more expensive

Also I won't pay customs

Only delivery and the price itself

[fossil cedar]

You can't not, you can't checkout without

[bold stone]

You can

A small little life hack

An Egyptian guy taught me it yesterday

And it workd

[fossil cedar]

Amazon makes you pay the customs before you can buy

It's all one price

[bold stone]

Nope

Buy for under 280 USD

Add any item for like 3 dollars

Boom,no customd

Amazon pays it for you

I'm scared it's breaking the law tho

I'm not sure

[obsidian wigeon]

it's a limit to get benefits

basically

[bold stone]

Wdym

[obsidian wigeon]

literally what i just said

[bold stone]

What does the sentence mean...

Becuase its not a limit

Becuase ypu gotta add a cheap item

[obsidian wigeon]

i dunno then

[dim reef]

can someone please make an around $1150 USD build with monitor(gonna be used for gaming and streaming)

[mossy venture]

I'm about to take a shower, after that if no one else has I will

[dim reef]

ok thank you

[fossil cedar]

Is it for you? Asking as i notice you have good specs in your name already

[dim reef]

nah one of my friends wanted one but i didn’t want to make a bad build for him so i came here

[fossil cedar]

Makes sense do they need wifi?

[fossil cedar]

I'd do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ckqG4s

[mossy venture]

lol pato we had almost identical lists

just different case and psu

tho for a lil over budget this is also possible https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CqNrgb

[fossil cedar]

For like 2$ more you get a tier with the revo df btw

[mossy venture]

first one is probably a better idea anyways

xpg pylon is A tier

oh wait

[fossil cedar]

Swore it was c tier

[mossy venture]

you're right, i guess i was remembering wrong

mb

def d.f then

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it's c tier

[mossy venture]

mb

[fossil cedar]

You're think of the core reactor from xpg probs

All good

[bold stone]

I'm still debating what's best

The offer or amazon

[mossy venture]

?

[digital nebula]

Welp I'm back up. Literally all I need to do is put the pc back together without anymore issues

[bold stone]

This or buy it from amazon

With evading customs

[mossy venture]

what country again, jordan?

[bold stone]

Ye

[mossy venture]

is there an amazon site for jordan?

or is there a diff one near you you'd use

[bold stone]

Nope

I would use UK amazon

Ship from it to jordan

Evade customd

Customs

[mossy venture]

ok

and what's the budget in pounds?

[bold stone]

Pounds

Hmm

682

I need monitor k and m

Mouse pad too

Don't forget shipping expenses

Ignore customs

[mossy venture]

yeah that one seems like the best option imo