#building-and-recc-chat

1 messages · Page 89 of 1

fossil cedar
#

Lol

flint sapphire
analog pulsar
mossy venture
#

@fossil cedar

languid nimbus
#

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 5 stars, congratulations, you’ve won Mod of the Year

analog hearth
#

W

dim forge
#

super flower leadex III bronze good psu?

mossy venture
#

Depends on price

#

Pretty sure that's B tier iirc, but I could be wrong

#

The gold is the A tier one

#

I'd check, but school internet has the site blocked for some reason, and my data connection isn't good enough to load the site

rancid lodge
#

Gonna wait prob another month or so, but thinking about buying 7900xtx (hopefully by whatever point I theoretically buy it all the big bugs would be squashed and it’d be a bit easier to get). 850w PSU enough to handle it and 5900x? Thinking possibly, but unsure.

mossy venture
#

Yes

#

Depending on model

#

Though with current issues on the xtx, I'd specifically avoid the reference until more information comes out about the issue with them. I dont know a ton about it, Felix, sips and pato know more about it than I do

rancid lodge
#

Yea, how do I tell which cards use the ref board? I assume it’s all the models that look like duplicates of each other…

mossy venture
#

I dont know

#

Any kf the three people I just mentioned (as well as many others here, those three are just some of the more active people) would likely be able to tell you

rancid lodge
#

Hm alr, yeah I’m hoping by the time I go and hunt one down the issues with the ref + driver bugs are fixed

#

Appreciate the help though

#

I’ll just have to keep up with updates on it and see

rancid lodge
#

Uhh it’s been a hot minute but I’m pretty sure it’s an A list EVGA 850

mossy venture
#

G6?

rancid lodge
#

Possibly yeah, let me check

mossy venture
#

Either way, if it's A tier it'll be fine with an xtx

#

Most if not all B tiers would be fine too imo

rancid lodge
#

It was the G1+ I think? Either way I’m pretty sure it was A tier on the list

mossy venture
#

G+?

#

Idk if there's a g1, g2 and g+ exist

rancid lodge
#

Not at home so I can’t check the box rn lmao

#

But yeah I think G1

mossy venture
#

It's fine, not like you're buying rn

rancid lodge
#

yeah

mossy venture
#

Either way, I think all G_ units are either A or B tier

#

Don't quote me on that

rancid lodge
#

Looks like it yeah

#

Only one or two on C from what I’m seeing

limber oyster
#

Starting my second pc

feral citrus
#

You trickster, you hooligan, you rapscalion!

#

Now i just have to get a better pc!

cyan ravine
#

Lol

wheat leaf
#

When you build a 19,000+ computer and the specs are But 254gb of ram, 2 24GB 3090 water cooled, 64 core cpu, 28 rgb case fans, 1300w psu, 9tb of storage. This is only a game bc too much money but imagine tho

fossil cedar
#

Here me out... Pc part picker

#

Also 3090? So last year

bold prism
#

should i download the bios stuff on the motherboard site? or just the drivers is fine?

upper condor
#

Finally built my PC but there’s a weird problem

#

My Ethernet can’t download

#

It connects to internet, but just doesn’t download after like 10mb

#

I don’t even know

#

I installed the lan drivers

#

And every other driver

#

But for some reason it can’t download for more than like a second

upper condor
#

It fixed itself lol

upper condor
#

I RETURN

#

For some reason

#

I have 0 upload speed lmao

#

My download is 930 or something but 0 upload, no clue why

#

And even though I'm on an AMD board I have intel drivers for lan? not sure lol

south cliff
#

I need help

#

My friend got a new gpu and it went to windows and I installed drivers and after that it just went to the boot screen and after that just turns off

potent portal
potent portal
south cliff
#

It went into bios and tested for a cpu fan failure

#

HDMI

#

How do I go into safe mode

south cliff
#

I’m in bios

#

It’s a Alienware

potent portal
#

Good that means it's still working, at least enough to post

south cliff
#

I did load optimized default

south cliff
#

I did the system recovery mode

south cliff
#

Well I got back in windows and tried downloading drivers

#

And black screen again

dim reef
#

good build?

potent portal
#

?ddu

jolly riverBOT
haughty void
#

is there a case that can be flipped to display the pc on the right?

#

so the right side is the window

potent portal
#

Look up inverted layout cases, there's several. Check out the Segotep Typhon.

haughty void
#

well when i look on wegg it comes with nada

#

well theres this

#

expsensive as hell tho

potent portal
#

Yeah some of the BQ cases are modular and you can flip them

haughty void
#

@topaz flame what do you think?

#

you can either A. Get a windowless case

#

or B spend extra and get a really good case

potent portal
#

Silent base 802 can invert too iirc

#

A little smaller/cheaper

haughty void
#

Decoupled motherboard tray can be relocated for an inverted layout

topaz flame
haughty void
#

at this point i leave it up to you

#

@potent portal what about some rgb fans?

#

what are suggested that wont break the bank lol

potent portal
#

P12/P14 argb

haughty void
#

kk

haughty void
#

@potent portal these?

potent portal
#

Yep

#

$13 a fan is not bad at all

#

Esp rgb

toxic wraith
#

Help please this is my first time building a computer and I’m confused on how to unplug the fan and get out that box I have a p400a

potent portal
#

You can access the drive bay the box is in after removing the back panel

#

While you're back there you can trace the wire for the fan

haughty void
#

this is the end result

potent portal
#

That looks a lot like my pc, just different brands lol

haughty void
#

lol

toxic wraith
potent portal
#

There's 2 screws on the back of the case. Once those are out, the panel slides off.

toxic wraith
#

It’s not sliding off 😭

jagged ember
#

what case is it

toxic wraith
#

P400A

jagged ember
#

should just slide off after taking off the thumbscrews

#

might be easier to grip case without getting glass dirty if you remove the glass too

toxic wraith
#

What website is that?

jagged ember
#

its the manual for the case lol

#

so you should have something nearly identical

#

in paper

toxic wraith
#

Ah

jagged ember
toxic wraith
#

I probably lost it lol

jagged ember
#

but, for your reference if you hate reading off of dead trees

toxic wraith
#

I’m gonna try to put more force

#

Okay I might just be weak

jagged ember
#

remember the thumb screws are captive

#

or they're supposed to be

#

dont be trying to pull them all the way out

toxic wraith
#

Yeah turns out I was just weak I got help. Thanks for your guys’d help

south cliff
#

nvm im dumb

#

i have to do it tommorow

jagged ember
#

you can just run it and choose to shut down after it's done

#

then just install the new driver tomorrow

south cliff
#

well im not at my freinds house

upper condor
#

How does one get case fans to sync RGB?

#

I have it plugged into the right place and they're compatible but I can't find them

#

Got it lol

south cliff
jagged ember
#

yes

#

running ddu and having it restart means you've done that step

north spruce
#

Can someone assist me. Ive put together a new build and im getting a yellow ram ez debug and red cpu but only yellow ram when I remove the ram. Currently running z690 ddr4 hyperx 16gb ram i513700k ram had issues before but ran on my previous build. Black screen on launch

obsidian wigeon
#

Which board do you have?

#

If it has flashback you can flash bios without using cpu

north spruce
#

I have a z690

obsidian wigeon
#

And make sure ram is in a2 and b2

#

No, which exact model?

north spruce
#

Correct thay is done

#

Oh

#

Umm let me check

#

Say pro z690-a brand is msi

obsidian wigeon
#

Yeah that can update bios with a usb drive

#

Put bios file into a usb drive, it's on msi site

#

Look up your board and get to downloads section

north spruce
#

I just saw a video of that too

#

Is that a common issue?

obsidian wigeon
#

It's not an issue, but rather something to do with Z690 boards only coming with bios for 12th gen cpus

#

Z790 comes with 13th gen support out of box

cyan ravine
#

Board made before cpu but not together = board go "the heck is this thing? I don't wanna boot"

obsidian wigeon
#

^

cyan ravine
#

Bios update helps it recognise the chip

north spruce
#

Im gonna try all of that rn

obsidian wigeon
#

Might need renaming bios file, but follow tutorials and the manual

#

It's fairly straightforward

obsidian wigeon
#

Gotta make sure the usb drive is an empty drive tho

cyan ravine
#

The pro z690-a has a bios flash button, so follow the msi guide on the website for your board support

#

There's also a youtube video if you google it from msi themselves

north spruce
#

You guys are awesome

mossy venture
#

Seconded

north spruce
#

Might be something else

#

So I misstated. I dont get a black screen the screen doesnt come on at all screen flashes as if nothing is launching.

obsidian wigeon
#

Yeah that's normal

#

CPU not supported by board, bios update needed

north spruce
#

I have the flash in the bios spot

#

Its just sitting idle

#

What if I like

#

Installed this 12700k updated bios then launched

obsidian wigeon
#

Which usb port did you plug it into?

#

It has to be the flashback port, not just any

north spruce
#

Its in the flash bios it has a nice grey outline on it

obsidian wigeon
#

Then you press flash button on the back of the board

north spruce
#

I pushed button as well

obsidian wigeon
#

Wait until it's done then

#

It's doing the flashing

north spruce
#

I sure do hope so

obsidian wigeon
#

Don't turn it off

north spruce
#

If not swap for the 12700k?

obsidian wigeon
#

Or you'll mess it up and will need an rma

north spruce
#

Rma?

#

Sorry im a scrub

obsidian wigeon
#

It's like sending it back to msi for repairs

#

Or swap for a new board

north spruce
#

So like this was an open box whats the chance that happened lol

#

And would swapping to the 12700 at any point not an option then?

obsidian wigeon
#

Very low

#

Open box is just a return

north spruce
#

Yeah just wondering if the guy before me made that mistake is all

#

But it did have all of the parts

obsidian wigeon
#

Open box stuff are returned stuff verified working, so don't worry

#

Is there any light on flash button or the port?

#

If it's still on or flashing it's not done

north spruce
#

It never flashed

obsidian wigeon
#

Hmmm

north spruce
#

Just turned red when I pushed the button

obsidian wigeon
#

Sounds like you did it wrong

#

And it's not accepting it

cyan ravine
#

If it even flashes for a moment then stops almost straight away then the bios flash isn't accepted

obsidian wigeon
#

Make sure the drive is empty, and bios file name is correct

cyan ravine
#

You need a fat32 thumb drive

obsidian wigeon
#

Oh right, that too

north spruce
#

Ah good ol whatever its called

obsidian wigeon
#

Format it to fat32 with another machine

#

Windows can do it

north spruce
#

Formatting yes

obsidian wigeon
#

ya

#

Right click on the usb drive and choose format

#

Then select fat32

north spruce
#

Still no flash

cyan ravine
#

You watched the guide ye?

north spruce
#

Yes sir

#

Its pretty straight forward

cyan ravine
#

Try not renaming it to msi.rom but use the original file name instead

#

That's worked for me before

north spruce
#

I tried that as well

#

Gonna just have to call it a day work early in the morning. Was hoping nothing would come up during this build but oh well. Thanks for the aid you guys have a great night sorry I couldnt produce results for ya

cyan ravine
#

I'll take it

north spruce
#

I needed results

#

So its on with the 12900

#

Launched immediately

#

What would I need to do?

#

Install manually through bios for the 13700?

cyan ravine
#

Ye

#

Using m-flash

obsidian wigeon
#

That would work too yep

mossy venture
south cliff
# jagged ember yes

After like 10 min or whatever we was installing windows update it went black but it was working

#

I’m pretty sure the gpu is broken but I’m going to check the temperature on it

#

And if it’s thermal throttling

mossy venture
#

Thermal throttling would not cause a black screen

obsidian wigeon
#

^

south cliff
#

Well it’s just turn off

jagged ember
#

Did it just go black and stop working?

south cliff
#

Ye

mossy venture
#

It could be cpu temp potentially

#

Or a power cable somewhere

jagged ember
#

That is weird

empty pollen
#

yeah more like cpu shutting down

south cliff
#

Ok

#

I will apply not thermal paste when I get home

#

And tighten it down

jagged ember
#

Apply toothpaste

south cliff
#

I’m not that dumb#

empty pollen
#

or maple syrup

empty pollen
jagged ember
#

Superheat the air by applying 100,000V to it

#

Then air becomes a conductor

#

Wait that's bad

trim forge
#

can you guys help me out on buying a pc

south cliff
south cliff
#

Think

empty pollen
#

i mean you can use it for some tests, it will work fine

#

so that way you dont waste thermal paste

jagged ember
#

Or you could just run a test before doing any of that

#

And monitor your cpu temperatures not through task manager

empty pollen
#

task manager bad

#

hwinfo good

jagged ember
#

MSI afterburner rtss good too

empty pollen
#

afterburner kinda wacky these days with so much virus-loaded versions around tho D:

#

or so i heard

jagged ember
#

Also MSI not paying the creator for a whole year

#

Dunno about the virus part but I haven't looked into it

obsidian wigeon
#

It's still good to use if you don't have newest hw

mossy venture
#

It's a real thing, but easy to avoid

obsidian wigeon
#

Or you simply want to monitor hardware

#

I love rtss

jagged ember
#

Go to MSI website

obsidian wigeon
#

ye

jagged ember
#

Should be fine there

empty pollen
#

yup

obsidian wigeon
#

Not the one that says afterburner

jagged ember
#

It's literally owned by MSI so

south cliff
jagged ember
#

Imagine MSI afterburner is owned by Asus

#

That'd be funny

obsidian wigeon
#

asus afterburner???

south cliff
#

Gulp

empty pollen
#

Zotac afterburner

obsidian wigeon
#

that would be sick but i fear msi will just let it die

empty pollen
#

that meme will age like fine wine

jagged ember
#

It's literally an afterburner and launches your gpu to oblivion

quasi knot
#

Does anyone know of a good way to mimic muzzle flash?

empty pollen
#

are you sure you landed on the right discord? o.O

quasi knot
empty pollen
#

mimic muzzle flash for a setup? wut

quasi knot
toxic wraith
#

Omg nothing legitimately nothing has worked for me during ky@build

#

I can’t even screw on the motherboard

#

I’m so close to giving up

trim forge
#

can someone tell me if this is a good deal

toxic wraith
#

What do I do I can’t screw in my motherboard

obsidian wigeon
#

Sounds like you haven't put on standoffs for the mobo, if the case doesn't already has them installed

toxic wraith
obsidian wigeon
#

That doesn't quite look right

#

Is the mobo sitting very close to the case?

toxic wraith
#

That’s why I’m asking I’m very confused

obsidian wigeon
#

Any gap between it and the back?

toxic wraith
#

Yeah

obsidian wigeon
#

hmm

toxic wraith
#

It’s like 2/3 of an inch

obsidian wigeon
#

I would try taking it off just to verify

toxic wraith
#

Actually like half

obsidian wigeon
#

Do take a pic for me

toxic wraith
obsidian wigeon
#

Looks like it's normal

#

Try aiming the screw in straight

toxic wraith
#

Okay

obsidian wigeon
#

Use some force to get it threaded in

#

But not too much

toxic wraith
#

It looks a little bit off

#

Like it’s a tiny bit to the left

obsidian wigeon
#

Unscrew all the screws then adjust the mobo

#

I would start with middle ones for the first part to make sure it fits

#

Or you can start with the edges

toxic wraith
#

I’m doing something terribly wrong

#

My cpu keeps falling out of the socket

obsidian wigeon
#

Sounds like you didn't line it up right with the board

toxic wraith
#

Damn I swear I did

obsidian wigeon
#

Shouldn't really damage anything if it moves around, but it shouldn't move around unless it's incorrectly placed

toxic wraith
#

Uh oh

#

It may be damage

#

Damaged

#

Then

obsidian wigeon
#

Nah, it's not that easy to damage the socket

potent portal
#

They put "safe zones" around the standoff locations so you'd have to gouge the board to actually damage it with the standoffs

#

You'd see visible deep scratches with exposed metal in that case

#

You're building laying flat and not standing up right?

#

It's hard to tell from pics

toxic wraith
#

Yep

#

Is there an easier way to put on some screws because they’re positioned that makes the screw fall off and I can’t screw it in straight

empty pollen
#

just put the case horizontally on the table and use a magnetic-point screwdriver

potent portal
#

You can shift the board around a little to line it up better. Don't tighten all the way until you have them all in.

#

Every hole should have a peg under it also, you're not screwing directly to the case

gentle pollen
#

How do I install my laptop SSD to my PC? I got it mounted and a sata power cable plugged to my PSU but I am not sure what is with the 3 plugs on the SATA cable.

strong raft
#

Just pick 1. Same as a fan splitter.

gentle pollen
#

Ahh okay, how do ai connect it to the Mobo now?

strong raft
#

Near bottom right corner of mobo is the sata data ports

gentle pollen
#

Thanks.

#

Time to dig through this bag.

empty pollen
gentle pollen
#

Yep.

empty pollen
#

solid psu

gentle pollen
#

Aight is that all? It's all plugged in.

#

Do I just boot up my PC or do I need to set it up in the drive thing like with a nvme?

dim forge
#

GUYS

#

quick

#

this is cheaper than msi a-pro wifi and like 10 bucks more than d3sh wifi

#

good or nah

#

IGABYTE B660M GAMING X AX DDR4

mossy venture
#

yes it's a good mobo

fossil cedar
#

yes its a better choice, as it has flashback but whats the cpu and country?

dim forge
#

12400

#

colombia

fossil cedar
#

ah then i'd get the msi b660 a pro for less

empty pollen
#

👍

#

you cant go wrong with msi 🙂

dim forge
#

no no I mean

fossil cedar
#

if it was 13th then then the gaming x would be the obvs choice but you wont need flashback

dim forge
#

the msi b660 is like 10 bucks extra

fossil cedar
#

oh sorry i misread

#

eyeye

dim forge
#

or 20 I think

fossil cedar
#

get the gaming x

#

or honestly maybe ds3h

#

what price is the ds3h?

dim forge
#

like 10 bucks less

fossil cedar
#

up to you both gigab boards are a decent choice for a 12400

dim forge
#

gaming x has better vrm?

#

like are the 10$ extra worth it?

strong raft
#

Yes for me, even if just a 12400. Always liked slightly overbuilt mobos.

dim forge
#

ssadge out of stock when I tried to buy it

#

damn it

gentle pollen
#

I got my laptop's ssd plugged into my desktop now, however there seems to be an issue.

#

How come I can't see the files that were on the laptop before?

fossil cedar
gentle pollen
#

I got my laptop's ssd plugged into my desktop now, however there seems to be an issue.
How come I can't see the files that were on the laptop before?

fossil cedar
#

Did you have encryption?

gentle pollen
#

I don't think so.

#

also I should rephrase, I don't see all of the files but I do see some.

#

Is it because that drive still has win10 on it installed?

#

also not sure why but I see 2 new drives instead of just 1?

fossil cedar
#

Nope you should be able to see them normally going through the folders

weak onyx
#

Help want to buy a switch needs are , I have a gaming computer 3090 ti 4k hdmi and a work computer with regular hdmi and would like to switch between them. Need 1computer at a time 8:00 am to 5pm both monitors then 6pm switch to gaming computer both monitors
Which switch do I need please help
Getting new monitors 4k 240hz under monitors

#

Kvm switch

#

Which one will work for me

gentle pollen
#

Thanks guys for helping me install my ssd.

weak onyx
#

Was looking at the tesmart

#

I contacted them there answer was not I am looking pass 240hz

#

Are there some other companies

#

Brands

frigid carbon
#

what is a reputable free disk migration tool?

toxic wraith
#

I’m not sure where my audio plugin or my usb plug is can somebody help?

#

It’s the asus tuf z690 plus wifi d4

#

I already did

#

It’s my first time building so I’m confused

elfin flame
#

Bottom is audio, right is USB 3.0.

Line up the notch on the connector for the USB connector for your case to it.

Note the missing pin for the audio connector.

toxic wraith
#

Ty but for the usb I meant like a cable

#

Because I was watching a tutorial which showed that

#

Oh.

#

Ok thanks for your help

#

Where’s the jfp on my motherboard? I have a asus tuf z690 plus wifi d4 I can’t seem to find it. Idk why but almost everything is named differently than the video I am watching

leaden raft
#

On the sff strix motherboard that I can’t put two m.2 on does the back m.2 just not have a heat sink or am I missing something?

toxic wraith
#

Jumper front panel I think

fossil cedar
#

Oh should be bottom right and be called f panel or something

toxic wraith
#

Ok thank you

fossil cedar
#

F panel is like always bottom right fyi

#

Not always very bottom right but in that area

toxic wraith
#

It’s just called panel

#

Is that it?

fossil cedar
toxic wraith
#

What

#

Are you ok

fossil cedar
#

As then you wouldn't be able to screw in the mobo

fossil cedar
toxic wraith
#

Ok thank you

strong raft
toxic wraith
#

Ty

#

Sm

toxic wraith
#

I don’t understand how to set up my rgb on my fans can somebody help

leaden raft
#

What should I make my aio on the meshilicous intake right?

weary galleon
#

gpu and cpu should ideally both be intaking air

#

they would like Bluetooth whether that be on the mobo or a separate card

potent portal
#

I'm guessing they want full atx too instead of saving $30

weary galleon
cyan ravine
#

They could get a good gpu boost going 12th gen there

weary galleon
potent portal
#

Or wait a month for X3D

mossy venture
#

yeah that

#

alright one second

potent portal
#

That 750W is the price of a 850W A tier btw

#

RMx is great but $$$$

#

Guessing the case is an aesthetic choice too

weary galleon
#

nah mostly just a price holder

mossy venture
cyan ravine
mossy venture
#

that doesn't include the wifi and bluetooth though

#

if fine with changing cases felix's is a good choice

weary galleon
#

The other thing was they were thinking ddr5 so mobo and ram would last them longer but if you think ddr4 is a better move ill listen to you

mossy venture
#

could also switch it to that case or g360a in any of the three

cyan ravine
#

Ddr4 is a better move

mossy venture
#

8gb ddr5 sticks are not good

weary galleon
#

ok

potent portal
#

DDR4 does actively hurt 13th gen performance by about 5% on average across the board

cyan ravine
#

Meh

potent portal
#

12th gen is ok except maybe 12900k in some games

cyan ravine
#

I would say whether it be worth spending more on ram and maybe board to make up that gap tho

#

Could technically get a 4070ti on that budget but you'll be pushing it with a 12400

#

Like really wringing that cpu dry lol

#

Assuming 1440p

potent portal
#

It could be worth getting DDR5 for future builds too

cyan ravine
#

Meh

#

Cos you gotta get a better board too so it'll be over 1400 lol

weary galleon
#

i think a 6800 is really all they need

#

that plus 12400 seem ok?

cyan ravine
#

Ye

#

Those two together are fine

mossy venture
#

I still wouldn't bother spending more on a cpu even if you go back to 6800

weary galleon
#

ok

potent portal
#

Used GPUs are worth a look too

weary galleon
potent portal
#

I've seen 3080 around $400

mossy venture
#

i saw one today for 370 sold

weary galleon
#

"ehh I don't wanna end up with some crypto mining card" :/

potent portal
#

Mining doesn't hurt it but ok, then get AMD used. 6950XT.

weary galleon
#

yeah that's gotta be up in the top 5 tech misconceptions

potent portal
#

No one in their right mind used AMD to mine.

weary galleon
potent portal
weary galleon
#

for parts

#

unless you think it's not actually broken

potent portal
#

Whoops wrong one

#

Cracked mobo is a no go

leaden raft
#

Spook

toxic wraith
#

How do I install a Galahad 360 aio

#

Lga 1700

#

Im getting insanely frustrated from it

potent portal
toxic wraith
#

Ty

#

Bro I messed up so bad

#

I might have to get a replacement

potent portal
#

Did you strip a screw or something?

toxic wraith
#

Nvm it’s fine

#

Hopefully

leaden raft
south cliff
cyan ravine
#

There's like 5 different chains to read through and I'm missing a ton of context

south cliff
# cyan ravine Can you explain to me what's happening

Ok so my friend got new gpu and ram but when we went to download drivers it turned black and wouldn’t turn back on we got into safe mode ram ddu and still same thing got recommended to replace cpu thermal paste did that and still same thing

cyan ravine
#

Just downloading drivers?

#

Hm

#

Have you checked the psu cables are plugged in correctly

#

I.e 4+4 into motherboard, 8 into psu

#

6+2 into gpu, 8 into psu

#

24 pin into mobo, 16+8/20+4 into psu

#

Having your cpu cables backwards can cause sudden behaviour like that

#

Also a dodgy psu

south cliff
#

It’s a Alienware

cyan ravine
cyan ravine
south cliff
#

But I have chef a bunch of times

#

I’m fully resetting the pc right now

cyan ravine
#

You've checked the psu?

#

Checked ram is seated?

south cliff
#

Yeah used 2

#

Yeah and it detected

#

I can get to bios

cyan ravine
#

Detected ≠ properly seated

south cliff
#

After that just black

#

Yup

cyan ravine
#

Make sure they click top and bottom

south cliff
#

I have

cyan ravine
#

Sudden black screens on light load sound psu related to me

south cliff
#

I’m going to try the gpu on my main pc

cyan ravine
#

Ok

#

You ddu'd yeah?

#

What's the psu wattage

south cliff
#

650

cyan ravine
#

And the CPU it's also running

south cliff
#

It’s a rx 6600

#

And a 9400f

cyan ravine
#

Ok so should be fine, great wall unit

#

If you have no problems with the gpu in the other system then I would def again check psu cable runs to make sure they aren't backwards

#

Or via bios if you have an option to set an LLC

upper condor
#

I'm having a weird issue

#

Randomly during games my PC will go black and the fans speed up a ton

#

But I can still hear and talk

analog pulsar
upper condor
#

It never goes over 70 C from my monitoring things

analog pulsar
#

🤔

obsidian wigeon
#

sounds like gpu driver issue

upper condor
#

It's random but I noticed it's only when settings are cranked up high in like warzone or OW2

#

I did a clean install of GPU drivers with DDU

#

So not sure tbh

cyan ravine
#

70 sounds like core

south cliff
cyan ravine
upper condor
#

70 is all I could see, it's like the in game GPU temp thingy

south cliff
#

Nvm it popped up

#

What should I do

cyan ravine
cyan ravine
#

Black screen and fans ramped is either driver crash or worse

upper condor
#

There is one weird thing

#

For some reason everywhere it says I have AMD gpu and nvidia

south cliff
#

No fans ramp

cyan ravine
upper condor
#

the hot spot seems fine, but it is saying GPU #1 AMD radeon

#

which makes no sense lol

cyan ravine
#

That is weird

#

Did you ddu between gpu's?

potent portal
south cliff
#

Me?

upper condor
potent portal
cyan ravine
#

@south cliff put gpu back in the alienware

#

I will ping you if I'm talking to you now Darth

upper condor
south cliff
#

Ok sorry

upper condor
#

should i turn that off?

#

or what

potent portal
#

Nah it's not hurting anything

cyan ravine
#

Try warzone rq

upper condor
#

alright lemme load it up

south cliff
cyan ravine
#

And then come back and show us that hwinfo screen again

south cliff
#

Should I load up a game

cyan ravine
south cliff
#

What would you do

cyan ravine
#

@south cliff Testing it sounds like a good idea

south cliff
#

Because I’m fully resetting the Alienware

#

What should I use

cyan ravine
#

Any old game tbh

south cliff
#

I don’t got old games

upper condor
#

Could it be I have my thermal limit set to 83 in some way?

#

running WZ right now

rugged anvil
#

the most unoptimized game of all time?

south cliff
upper condor
#

thats what it crashed on before lol

south cliff
#

No temp over 60 in mordahou

cyan ravine
cyan ravine
upper condor
#

The highest it's gotten is 77

cyan ravine
#

Show screenshot

cyan ravine
south cliff
cyan ravine
#

Oh wait wrong ping sorry darth

south cliff
#

Your good everything looked good

cyan ravine
south cliff
#

It’s probably the ram

cyan ravine
#

Ye try reseating ram again

#

Click bottom then click top

south cliff
#

When it’s down resetting I’m going to test each one in my system

upper condor
cyan ravine
#

Ok

upper condor
#

But it also happened in overwatch so it's not like WZ exclusive

dim reef
#

what’s the difference b/t an ATX and a micro ATX mobo

potent portal
#

mATX is shorter and has less PCIe and M.2 slots

#

That's pretty much it

cyan ravine
upper condor
#

Would you perhaps know anything about ethernet

#

I'm having some really weird issues

potent portal
#

What kind of issues

upper condor
#

Only on ethernet

#

On wifi it works perfectly fine

#

I have drivers as well

potent portal
#

You've installed the latest driver from your mobo support page?

upper condor
#

Yeah I try to and it doesnt change the driver in device manager

#

And when I try to uninstall it it instantly reinstalls one from like 2 years ago idk why

potent portal
#

Ok we'll try the one from the manufacturer of the chipset

#

Intel or Realtek? Those are the most common

upper condor
#

Uhhh intel I believe

#

That's what it says

potent portal
#

Windows 10 or 11

upper condor
#

windows 10

potent portal
#

The second one, for x64

#

This driver released 2 weeks ago

upper condor
#

I did that then restarted my pc this shows up 😭

potent portal
#

wha

#

That's not supposed to happen lol

upper condor
#

Yeah I figured so

#

I think I might’ve messed up my drivers at the start because instead of individually downloading them I used the gigabyte master software or whatever

potent portal
#

Ok well F8 and load safe mode with networking

#

Uninstall the driver from device manager

#

Then see if the default driver has any issues

#

If it does you might have a hardware issue

upper condor
#

Could it just be the Ethernet cable?

potent portal
#

That would be the next thing to test if the standard driver has issues

upper condor
#

I mean looking at it the plastic looks cracked xD

#

Pc still starting in safe mode

potent portal
#

See what it does with no cable inserted

#

Wifi is nice to have as a backup isn't it

#

Just like that iGPU

upper condor
#

It just keeps resetting to that one screen

#

New one now

potent portal
#

Hoo boy

#

Try the recovery mode F1

#

And try a system restore

upper condor
#

It’s a new one every time 😭😭😭

potent portal
#

If recovery mode doesn't fix it then it's a hardware issue.

#

Maybe the bad cable shorted the port.

upper condor
#

Recovery mode doesn’t start

#

It just goes black then back to that screen

#

Should I get windows on a usb and try to reset it?

potent portal
#

You can give that a go sure

upper condor
#

If that doesn’t work and it is hardware

#

Is this something warranty would cover by any chance

potent portal
#

Yes 100%

#

Or an exchange if you're within 30 days of purchase

upper condor
#

Yeah bought it last weekend

potent portal
#

Exchange will be faster and less painful then

upper condor
#

Alright I’m gonna try and do a fresh install rq I guess

upper condor
cyan ravine
#

Fascinating

#

Ssd dying?

potent portal
#

Possible

upper condor
#

I have no idea tbh

potent portal
#

But that doesn't really account for the network issues

upper condor
#

But I'm on it now and it works

#

It did happen to work after I unplugged that cable

#

And did the safe mode

#

I'll just another cable and use wifi for now

runic flare
#

Hey guys, I need some help. I have a i9 10850k paired with an MSI MAG CORE LIQUID 360R cooler, built the PC around 1.5 year ago and recently it started overheating. The temperature is at 40C upon launch and slowly climbs to 55C whilst idle. When watching YouTube alone, even though I have hardware acceleration turned on, the temps go to 80C. Was also exporting a premiere Pro file just before and the temps went up to 104C. The max CPU usage I ever saw was 20%. I've reapplied thermal paste and cleaned everything. Could it be the orientation of the cooler that made air build up in the top compartment resulting in little water flow? Anyone have any suggested on what to do? Thanks

south cliff
languid nimbus
#

I have that same cooler & customer service was really helpful tbh

cyan ravine
cyan ravine
#

Or yeah, pump dying, percolation etc

runic flare
cyan ravine
#

Idk if you're covered by warranty but yeah, they had a recall a while ago about it if you look up google

languid nimbus
#

If you type in your serial number or whatever on the site it’ll tell you if yours was in the recall period I think

south cliff
languid nimbus
#

Yeah should be

runic flare
#

I bought off eBay so don't have an invoice

#

Is there no way to just search via serial number? @languid nimbus

languid nimbus
#

Hmmm I’m actually not sure, I can’t quite remember

#

I’m pretty sure if you just register it, it’ll tell you everything you need to know

cyan ravine
#

And sell the 24gb

runic flare
cyan ravine
#

Silicon power 32gb gaming is 64$

cyan ravine
runic flare
#

What should I do?

cyan ravine
#

Your ebay account will have details of the order no?

#

That can substitute an invoice

#

Provided it was sold "brand new"

runic flare
#

Right, it was. Thanks

cyan ravine
outer rivet
#

Boys and girls need help here. I have a PRO Z690-A motherboard with two 16gb ram (32gb) of 3200mhz but when enabling the XMP and putting it to the ram MGZ which it 3200mhz it crash and was only enable to leave it at about 3000mhz

#

I did put my ram in the good place which is 2-4

limber oyster
#

Hmm I think I need a different CPU cooler

dim reef
limber oyster
south cliff
#

What is a good 512 gb 2.5 inch sad

#

Ssd

mossy venture
#

laptop?

south cliff
#

Gaming and windows no the Alienware

mossy venture
#

can it not take an nvme?

south cliff
#

It’s a r8 so I’m not sure

mossy venture
#

I'd check, it likely can

south cliff
#

Is this a good one for the price

mossy venture
#

yes

obsidian wigeon
#

looks like it can

#

alienware r8 is a desktop

#

it's got 9th gen cpu

south cliff
#

Yea

obsidian wigeon
#

surely has a slot for m.2 ssd

south cliff
#

9400f

#

Also can I case swap it

obsidian wigeon
#

hm nah, no m.2 slots for ssd

mossy venture
#

it can 100% take an nvme

south cliff
#

I read that some parts do t fit in regular case

obsidian wigeon
#

it only takes wifi card

#

oof

south cliff
#

Anything else that’s decent?

mossy venture
south cliff
#

Is this one good

mossy venture
#

the two sata ssds i normally recommend are the mx500 and 870 qvo/evo

#

but the 870s dont come in 500gb and the mx500 is overpriced

south cliff
#

It says it’s the same speed as the one at the top and 10 dollars Cheaper

mossy venture
#

look for any of these

#

speeds are next to irrelevant

#

much more goes into performance than just speed

#

the cs900 is a low end ssd, Im not sure with the one you linked falls

south cliff
mossy venture
#

yes

south cliff
#

Ah that’s not the pro

mossy venture
#

oh mb

south cliff
#

It’s 42 for 512gb is that good

obsidian wigeon
#

imo just about any sata ssds are ok

#

as long as they're not random brand

south cliff
#

Is there a big difference

obsidian wigeon
#

not really

#

sata is only limited to like 600 mb/s

south cliff
#

Oh ok

south cliff
obsidian wigeon
#

not sure honestly

#

mobo looks kinda like proprietary

mossy venture
#

likely not without also changing atleast the mobo

obsidian wigeon
#

^

#

you'd need another mobo

south cliff
#

Ok

dim reef
#

good build?

mossy venture
fossil cedar
digital nebula
#

I'm still waiting on my motherboard lmao

#

I can't even refund yet cause of some issues that happened

south cliff
toxic wraith
#

A I’m so overwhelmed. Can somebody help me with the cables for my Galahad 360 aio? And fans

toxic wraith
#

P400a

#

Sorry for late response I was doing something

mossy venture
#

360mm

toxic wraith
#

Yep

cyan ravine
south cliff
south cliff
toxic wraith
south cliff
#

Goes to bios then load then black screen

cyan ravine
#

I suspect it's psu or ram related

cyan ravine
south cliff
south cliff
cyan ravine
#

Ah, did you reinstall windows after that?

south cliff
#

Should I put the oem one back

#

Yup

#

And installed drivers it was all good

#

Playing games anything

analog pulsar
#

@ornate condor

south cliff
#

Until he plugged it in

cyan ravine
#

Oh

south cliff
#

And it stopped working

cyan ravine
#

OH

#

OH OK

#

He has dirty power or something

#

Oh boi I'm not that great on this subject

south cliff
#

So it’s not my fault

#

He is using a extension cable to run it

cyan ravine
#

That's not necessarily the issue

#

It'll be the wiring of his house

south cliff
#

Is it just the plug#

desert gulch
#

Extension cords typically don't help depending on gauge and length but yeah not the root cause

south cliff
#

I could ask him to use a different one

#

Just in case

ornate condor
cyan ravine
#

He should try plugging in at a different part of the house

south cliff
#

Ok I will tell him

cyan ravine
#

Like, other half, different room

south cliff
#

I know

#

Think this could work?

cyan ravine
#

There's a chance it's related

#

If you were fine with the whole pc then there's a very good chance this is it

south cliff
#

Alright he says he is doing something so let me get back to you

toxic wraith
#

How do I do the cables on fans rgb and aio

#

Help pls

south cliff
toxic wraith
#

Yes

south cliff
#

What games

#

I also play 1440l

#

1440

#

P

toxic wraith
#

Any

summer tusk
#

So I haven't found an up to date answer for this:
If a motherboard supports up to 3200mHz ram, and I put 3600mHz ram in it, what will happen? will the ram run at the motherboard supported speed or not at all?

stoic island
#

But you could also be limited by imc

#

If you're on Zen 1 or Zen+, you'll be pretty lucky going over 3200mhz

cyan ravine
#

It's almost like his name starts the sentence

#

H610I will run 3200 jedec

#

3600 will not work

#

Also for reference, which cpu?

stoic island
#

Iirc h610 is hard locked to 3200 max

cyan ravine
#

In a h610i I wouldn't put anymore than a 12100/13100 in there

#

Or I guess 12300?

summer tusk
#

I have 12400 currently

cyan ravine
#

Yeah you'll be pushing it

stoic island
#

12400 stock is the max I'd put in it

cyan ravine
#

Motherboard is made for barebones spec

summer tusk
#

Got an ITX mobo recommendation that can take 3600 ram? $150 or less would be best.

cyan ravine
#

I'm not sure what's there but looks like max 4 phase vrm

summer tusk
#

Link?

cyan ravine
#

Gimme a minute

summer tusk
#

Alright

cyan ravine
#

Nvm they did have one

stoic island
#

Aorus lite is pretty chill

cyan ravine
#

Next cheapest is the z690m

#

Or otherwise aorus lite

analog pulsar
cyan ravine
#

The asrock iirc runs up to 13600k

#

And aorus would do up to 13900k

#

No wait I remember

summer tusk
#

Good enough for me. I don’t need a beefy cpu for anything I do

cyan ravine
#

Ofc

#

But it's good to be mindful of it

summer tusk
#

Yeah

cyan ravine
#

If ever you need an upgrade

summer tusk
#

I have an atx mobo now, but I want to build an itx with the same components, so I can always go back to my old case and mobo. I’m planning on doing it so I can take it to college and not have a massive case in my dorm

#

I don’t have a windows key, so I don’t care about those issues

cyan ravine
#

I would sell off the atx stuff

#

Or use it to make a second system

summer tusk
#

I probably will eventually build another system

cyan ravine
#

Give us a hoy if you want help with that

fossil cedar
#

oh itx ye

cyan ravine
#

Git rekt

#

I filtered itx only you donk

earnest olive
#

it's better to go for 3200mhz xmp unless you are willing to do some manual tuning

cyan ravine
#

H610

earnest olive
#

even in z790

#

a locked cpu may not run 3600 gear 1

#

it's silicon lottery

#

and 3200 gear 1 is far superior to 3600 gear 2

summer tusk
earnest olive
#

oh you already have the ram running with it

#

use hwinfo to check what gear mode it's in

summer tusk
earnest olive
#

you can see gear mode in the memory timings section of the sensors window

summer tusk
#

Currently at college and don’t have my pc

#

🥲

earnest olive
#

if your system has defaulted to 3600 gear 2 you could be missing out on a LOT of performance

#

compared to 3200 gear 1

summer tusk
#

Can you change it?

#

I’m assuming it’s a hardware limitation?

earnest olive
#

yes

#

you might need to manually tune it to run something like 3400 gear 1 if your cpu cannot do 3600 gear 1

summer tusk
#

I don’t know how to oc ram

earnest olive
#

i did a comparison here, if you look at cpu scores you can see that 3200c16 gear 1 beats 3600c16 gear 2 by about 15% in average and minimum fps

earnest olive
summer tusk
#

It’s a 12400f, so It’s not a crazy cpu. I’d say it’s probably running in gear 2

earnest olive
#

my i3-12100 was capable of running 3600 gear 1

#

above testing was done on i3-12100

summer tusk
#

Ahhhh

earnest olive
#

paired with a 3090

summer tusk
#

I have a 3060

earnest olive
#

it's just luck of the draw, some 12th gen non-K cpus can run 3800 gear 1, some can only run 3000 gear 1

summer tusk
#

Got it

#

I’ll be going back next weekend and can check then

earnest olive
#

it's not based on model either, you will see the same behavior between i3-12100 and i9-12900

#

it's just individual variance

summer tusk
#

So how do you oc ram

earnest olive
#

you don't need to go this far just to set 3400 gear 1 though

#

don't worry about it until you can check what your pc is running at

summer tusk
#

Alright

#

Thanks!

earnest olive
#

if you're lucky you have nothing to worry about

#

if it is indeed running 3600 gear 2 then come back and ask for help then

earnest olive
#

probably, but i haven't touched any ddr5 yet so i haven't looked for any info on it

analog pulsar
#

Oh

toxic wraith
#

How do I set up all the cables and everything

languid nimbus
#

Very carefully

toxic wraith
#

Idek where the aio pump thing on the motherboard is

#

Help

#

Nvm

jaunty rover
#
#

nvm

#

how much diff is the 5700 to the 5800

mossy venture
#

In gaming, next to nothing

south cliff
toxic wraith
#

When I tried to connect my monitor it said no hdmi signal from your device on first time trying to do this. Any ideas on how to fix?

maiden gulch
#

got a strange compatability or hardware issue going on if anyone would care to chime in with some advice

south cliff
#

My friend just busted his glass on his o eleven dynamic L

cyan ravine
maiden gulch
#

I5 Raptor lake 13600, 32gb ddr5, 3060ti. windows 10. been running fine for over a month last night it just starts wigging out on warthunder of all games.

#

then it keeps blue screening me non stop, took out my ssd and video card, put them into a much older rig, no problems.

#

cant even keep my actual rig running long enough to even diagnose it

cyan ravine
#

Do you have the specific blue screen error

maiden gulch
#

it kept giving me all sorts of them.

#

typically a "Kernel" one

#

and several others

cyan ravine
#

Kernel mode exception?

#

Irql not less or equal?

maiden gulch
#

i contacted windows thinking maybe it was just some wonky update i couldnt find, they had me reistall, which i had to do on this other rig, which whiped my SSD and it still doesnt work on my new rig

#

yeah that sounds familiar, but it was giving me several different ones also

cyan ravine
#

Is your ram seated properly?

#

Clicked top and bottom on both?

maiden gulch
#

i also got Whea uncorrectable error

#

yep, it's lumed TFORCE ram so it clicks in pretty solid

cyan ravine
#

Those all sound like ram errors

#

Ever done a ram test?

maiden gulch
#

i havent, it wont run long enough to do anyways, i've got 16gigs of ddr4 i could try out though

cyan ravine
#

Sometimes cpu can be related but I doubt if it's stock

maiden gulch
#

it's stock, havent OC'd it

cyan ravine
#

You'd need a different board for ddr4

maiden gulch
#

you sure? i thought it'd run both

cyan ravine
#

There's only one board that runs both and it's a h610 that can only do 1 stick at a time

toxic wraith
#

Anyone know why I’m not getting any signal for hdmi from my pc?

cyan ravine
#

And it's garbage for a 13600k lol

maiden gulch
#

ah okay hold on i'll let you know what board i'm running

#

ASrock z790

cyan ravine
#

Yeah definitely won't fit