building-and-recc-chat

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it's fine

[stoic island]

If the die is trash it's not going to do that well no matter what platform you put it on, keep that in mind

[vague oracle]

Oh I know that much

Before I was stuck with a 5900x OCing ram

Which was kinda annoying with the FCLK

[stoic island]

Just decouple it if you're chasing freq

But yea

Uncore clocks higher easier

[fossil cedar]

Can't believe you have a 2x4gb kit are you at least doing 2 kits?

[vague oracle]

Nope I only have 1 kit of it

[fossil cedar]

F

8gb of ram in 2022

[vague oracle]

But hey, quick stability testing

I’m just messing around with this until I get back my 4x8 Ballistix kit

[fossil cedar]

Ohh ballistonks

[potent portal]

I've seen it say "unknown" for manufacturer before on a cheap kit

[fossil cedar]

interesting

[echo vale]

^

[stoic island]

What's the ballpark estimate for the budget? Like 500$ increments, what would be the estimate?

[echo vale]

in total even after having some parts

3k

[stoic island]

Usd? You can easily afford to go crazy lol

[echo vale]

yes lol

Usd

[stoic island]

You can afford to buy a whole new 4080/4090 and do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rmmyrD

[echo vale]

if its a bit above thats okay too

ooo

ty sm

[stoic island]

It could look like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T3gDVw

Or if you could find a 4090 at MSRP or smth

[echo vale]

hmm

[stoic island]

Blender should care more about GPU

[echo vale]

would all this still be doable with the 3080ti?

just wondering cause its been unopened lol

idrc for the 40series

but if it does matter then thats fine

[stoic island]

You can just do that without 4080 but performance is just going to be 3080ti performance

Like it'll be fine but the budget can fit a new 4080

Even 4090

But if you'd rather save the 1500$, which I probably would, 3080ti works fine still

[echo vale]

ahh kk

[stoic island]

Spend it on more overkill CPU if you want, grab a 13900k and upgrade Mobo to z790 aorus elite ax perhaps

[echo vale]

tysm for the help and stuff (:

[stoic island]

You're welcome

But CPU upgrade doesn't sound like it'll help you

[echo vale]

is amd better still or?

[stoic island]

Better for what?

[echo vale]

like mobo/cpu wise

[stoic island]

No

[echo vale]

ahh kk

[stoic island]

13600k nicer for gaming rn

[echo vale]

hell yeah

[vague oracle]

Anyone have any clue why I’m not getting a signal from the iGPU? It’s a 10700K

[potent portal]

Do you have a dGPU in?

Bios might disable it by default if so

[vague oracle]

Damn

NVFlash crashed middle of flashing a vBIOS

This 2080 is now bricked because of it

Okay thanks, I’m in the BIOS now

Yeah iGPU was disabled because the dGPU was in

Now I’m stuck on this

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-why-does-this-keep-happening-to-me-why-me-spongebob-why-do-these-things-happen-to-me-gif-18212805

[ornate solstice]

i want a pink pc case any recommendations

[ornate solstice]

that’s decent but not what i was hoping for

[vague oracle]

There’s always white case + spray paint

There is the NR200P if you want mini ITX

[ornate solstice]

i might just get a 4000d airflow in white and then spray paint it

any recommended white cases?

[mossy venture]

4000d airflow wh, g360a, a good few lian li cases

p400a/g500a

[ornate solstice]

thank you

[limber oyster]

I did some editong on the list I sent the other day. Fyi I already have PSU and CPU.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JBmdPX

PSU is from my current built that I'm upgrading the PSU on and so I'm gonna reuse it. The CPU is my brothers old one. I gave him my 7 3700x when I upgraded to a 9 5900x

[ripe spear]

For like the same price as the 6600 you picked there you could get a 6650 XT/6700/6700 XT

[limber oyster]

XFX 309 Ultra 6700 for $319?

Actually 308 ultra for $310. Faster boost and it's shorter

[floral path]

So amazons holding up my upgrade money for ransom on a pending return. In the meantime is a 7900xt not xtx cause stock worth 300$ more then a 6900xt? 600 for a 69 or 900 for a 79?

[cyan ravine]

No

Not for 300

XTX is worthwhile but XT isn't quite there

Actually 600 for a 6900XT is better than both the new cards I think

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[limber oyster]

New list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fqdj9r

Got rid of liquid cooler due to weight. And went a smaller lighter GPU for the same reason

I also switched to gen 3 NVMes

Actually...might keep liquid cooler...idk

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NjM48d/asrock-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-challenger-d-oc-video-card-rx6650xt-cld-8go

[fossil cedar]

6900xts are around 700 from what I've seen, I'd be surprised if there's some at 600

[zenith flicker]

So i have recently bought parts and built my own pc. the problem is that it can only run about 40 fps on the lowest graphics settings on games and cannot stream/record. I want to be able to stream/record games and have high fps/graphics, 120 fps and such graphic quality. Here are the parts in my pc. What should get upgraded? And if i do upgrade parts can I sell the old parts on newegg?

[mossy venture]

Have you enabled xmp in bios?

You cannot sell the parts in newegg nor should anything need upgrading

[zenith flicker]

idk what that is so ig no

[mossy venture]

I would check cpu Temps using hwinfo64

Xmp allows the ram to run at its rated speed, which is 3600mhz in this case

You're running it at jedec, which means it's running at 2133, 2333, or 2666 mhz

When turning the pc on, before it gets to windows lock screen, spam del, f4 and f11

One of them should bring you to bios

If not, f2 or f12

There's some others I think but one of those should do it

Then go to the overclocking tab, and set ram profile to xmp

[zenith flicker]

where is hwinfo64 found?

[mossy venture]

You have to install it from Google

[zenith flicker]

thanks for the help 👍

[mossy venture]

Np

I'd def enable xmp, if issue persists after that I'd imagine something is thermal throttling or you somehow have tons and tons of malware/viruses

[severe matrix]

is it worth to still cap fps just below the refresh rate of your monitor even if u can get plenty more frames above it? cause im gonna be using a 6700xt with a 1080p 144hz and im pretty sure it can go well beyond that

i have freesync

[mossy venture]

Eh, I cap my fps to 165 normally just because

It can cause stuttering if you don't in some games

[severe matrix]

ah ok

[sand falcon]

I'd also check that your monitor is plugged into the GPU and not the motherboard port

[zenith flicker]

thank you

[mossy venture]

Good point

[mossy venture]

Oh also, have you updated gpu drivers since you built the pc?

And w10 or w11

[zenith flicker]

widows 10 updated to 11

[mossy venture]

Oh lastly, what slots is the ram in?

[zenith flicker]

i think a few times

ram is in 2 and 4

[mossy venture]

Alr

I think that's right

That all seems in order then

[zenith flicker]

I checked my cpu temp and this is what i got

[obsidian wigeon]

Looks like a bad cooler mount

Is the aio pump running at all?

[zenith flicker]

tbh i wouldnt even know

[mossy venture]

Put your ear near the radiator

Listen for a humming

Also, sounds stupid, but are the fans spinning?

[zenith flicker]

yes the fans are spinning

:lol:

[mossy venture]

Lastly, if both of those are happening, remount the cooler. Meaning take the cooler off the cpu, clean off the thermal paste, and put new paste on and mount it again

You have to tighten the screws in an x pattern slowly, alternating and not tightening one fully at a time

As that causes uneven mounting pressure

[zenith flicker]

will do!

[mossy venture]

Also, when you put new paste on, send a picture here and have someone check if it's enough

[fossil cedar]

Just in case you should check the cpu voltage being given, motherboard might be giving more than needed creating unnecessary heat

[earnest olive]

i want to add that in the future, even though this isn't the issue in this case, if you're asking about xmp being on, you should also ask to see which slots the ram is in in the same breath

[earnest olive]

not even asus motherboards will overvolt cpus this intensely, and if it was the cpu would probably have died by now

just a cooler problem

[fossil cedar]

Oh those temps are at idle?

Kinda skimmed the convo

[earnest olive]

interesting he mentioned the ram slots without being asked

maybe he's been asked before lol

[earnest olive]

well he didn't say whether it was idle or not

but even assuming this is gaming it'd have to be at like 1.7v to hit those temps lmao

[fossil cedar]

I mean 95c is possible for stress

Or MT

[earnest olive]

cpu package is reading 106c

😳

[fossil cedar]

Oh right lol

[earnest olive]

but yeah

those temps are possible under prime95 but

40 fps in gaming is definitely explained by thermal throttling

imagine a motherboard actually applying 1.7v auto lmao

[fossil cedar]

Yeah yeah nvm

You're right

[earnest olive]

i wonder if that theoretically would be grounds for a lawsuit

users having their cpus killed quickly by bad auto voltage settings

[fossil cedar]

1.7v?

[earnest olive]

i imagine it would

[fossil cedar]

Yeah I'd say so

Sounds like pretty reasonable grounds of faulty product

[earnest olive]

imagine some overclocker trying to get their 1/100 binned 125sp 13900KS reimbursed by the company

imagine having to explain what that even means to the judge

LOL

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[mossy venture]

Didn't think about it till after, but I did ask. Appreciate the correction

[earnest olive]

oh i didn't see that

[mossy venture]

I should've asked in the same sentence though, as they are important to eachother

[earnest olive]

if you ask people to get this area of hwinfo summary mode it knocks out both of those questions in one stone

ignore my cursed ddr4-3504 laptop

[mossy venture]

I need to explore hwinfo more, I've not used it much except to view cpu Temps and the other day when you and Felix were asking about voltages

[earnest olive]

if you open summary only mode you'll see this pretty fast

[mossy venture]

Good to know

Also what type of ram is 3504mhz

I'm assuming that's manually tuned, right?

[earnest olive]

3466 divider with 101.1mhz bclk oc

wanted 4.65ghz on cpu

i don't know why but my laptop can't do ddr4-3600 gear 1 stable anymore ever since switching the battery

it was stable on the old battery

so i figured if i have to go down to 3466 anyways i might as well make the most of it

this poor laptop has been through so much lol

[mossy venture]

Ah

[sweet cargo]

Im in the process of building my first gaming pc i have all the componants listed and wanted a second opinion:)

[stoic island]

Go for it

[sweet cargo]

@stoic island i just sent you a message with everything

[austere condor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cf9TTn

WIP high end content creation / gaming PC

dont really have a budget, but also not trying to blow 10 grand

i think i have most things figured out

just working on finding an adaquate PSU

and probably add in some more bulk SSD storage

thoughts?

[stoic island]

AX1600i xD

[austere condor]

im thinking of doing a HX1200 plat with a custom cable kit

[stoic island]

I mean the stock cables are pretty cool with inline capacitors

But that should work

[austere condor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9ZJ7JM

[stoic island]

What about using the 2 empty m.2 slots for 2 4tb p3 or mp34?

[austere condor]

the case has 4 2.5in drive mounts right here

plan was to fill that space with the sata drives, or else it would be wildly empty, lol

[stoic island]

Fair

[austere condor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h4p9Zw

[stoic island]

Ngl that does kinda look like the perfect place to put a distro plate for a custom loop

[austere condor]

its the spot for mounting reservoirs

[stoic island]

Yea, but it also looks like a really nice place to show off a distro plate lol

[austere condor]

i need to find a cable kit for the PSU

[severe matrix]

What's the difference between undervolting and overclocking a GPU? and, if im gonna cap my fps even though i can go well beyond my refresh rate, will undervolting be better? since overclocking will basically give me more fps but i wont see the results?

[potent portal]

A double loop

[potent portal]

Undervolting can help conserve power and reduce heat by reducing the voltage, therefore reducing total power draw

Overclocking is any time you make something perform beyond it's standard base spec

You can do both at the same time, in fact that's the ideal method of overclocking AMD cards right now

[severe matrix]

ohh

which should you do first?

[potent portal]

That depends, do you want max performance or for it to run cooler/lower power?

[severe matrix]

probably cooler since the performance ill get is good enough right now

[potent portal]

Then undervolt first, so you can see how low you can get it and stay stable at default clocks. Then you can try to increase the core until it's unstable, then the memory.

[severe matrix]

ok ty

[desert nebula]

When ever I play warzone my game freezers after 2 games

What do I do to fix it?

[desert nebula]

Good

Gtx 1650

[jagged hill]

i can keep my cyberdeck lifted so the screen doesnt knock back now

even runs on a 65w battery

[half iron]

best gaming laptop under 600dollars ?

[wide sparrow]

Did....did you build that?

[austere condor]

lol no, i wish

[wide sparrow]

Ok I see the watermark...maybe not

[austere condor]

theres some custom fab work on that build

custom acrylic stuff

i dont have the skill or hardware to do that

[wide sparrow]

Damn

I would've believed you could

[austere condor]

you wanna see the builder i look up to and think, damn, i wish i could do that?

[wide sparrow]

Yes

[austere condor]

https://www.youtube.com/@DeclassifiedSystems

[wide sparrow]

Oh god. The artistry

💀

The amount of views he has is a crime

[potent portal]

What exactly is saying that? If it's an antivirus you usually add an exception to the whitelist.

That'll be under Windows security settings, virus and threat protection, manage settings, exclusions at the bottom

[jagged hill]

look for dead laptops from asus and build a cyberdeck

i'm sure you can make one and revive it for 200-300

and still have a good gpu

[jagged hill]

the xbox 5

[potent portal]

They'll never make a liquid cooled xbox but if they did you might be on to something

[jagged hill]

the series z

imagine a graphics card working on console

[potent portal]

Like an addon GPU? That would be amazing

That would certainly blur the line between console and PC even more

[obsidian wigeon]

they're basically proprietary pcs at that point

[potent portal]

Especially the xbox, it runs windows apps for crap's sake

[obsidian wigeon]

ye lmao

the os is just windows

[weary galleon]

I believe Intel has a line of ITX PCs where you put in your own gpu

I forget if it's NUC or something else

[obsidian wigeon]

It's nuc yep

[weary galleon]

Soldered cpu right?

/custom mobo

Or do they use normal ITX boards

[obsidian wigeon]

They use what's called compute units

With soldered cpu

Compute unit is a pcie board plugged into the nuc itself

Basically mobo but connects with pcie

[potent portal]

Sometimes soldered CPU but 12th/13th gen just uses desktop chips

[weary galleon]

Yeah so more or less a "console with replaceable gpu"

[jagged hill]

i have a nuc that i'm using rn

for certain models you have to choose between nvme or gpu

pick your cure

[ashen haven]

is this decent for cable management? any tips

[tidal moth]

Looks clean

If you get cable extensions you can comb your cables to make them look organized

[autumn wolf]

really good. if you do want to fix anything, itd be these cables here unless the length doesnt allow for it to be fixed in anyway then thats fine

[tidal moth]

Like this

Bundling cables together goes a long way as well

If you connect cables with zip ties in a bundle it looks very swag

Also your cables look best when they look intentional instead of trying to hide them make them look like they are meant to be there

Intentional cables look best

[little osprey]

Hi, I'm assembling parts for my new PC, what do you guys think of this combination so far?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ghRBpH

[severe matrix]

Is a chopstick safe to use as an anti-sag GPU bracket? will it catch on fire?

[desert nebula]

My game keeps freezing and the monitor keeps turning off when I play for a few minutes. Anybody know what to do

[ashen haven]

very clean

can you circle my image to what exactly I should zip tie

[ashen haven]

I haven't done the back properly yet but I will do that. thanks

[tidal moth]

Safe it’s fine. The flash point of wood is 300c lol

[ashen haven]

this is my first build ever btw any tips for new pc owners

[tidal moth]

Destroy mcafee

Vaporize it from your pc for eternity

[ashen haven]

ok no McAfee

does it come with PC by default

cuz I haven't installed it

I have windows 11

[tidal moth]

Ok sick

Instal adobe actobat and set it as a default pdf reader

[severe matrix]

ok ty

[ashen haven]

ok got it

jellyfish

[tidal moth]

Yes

[ashen haven]

you were talking abt zipties

what exactly should I ziptie

[tidal moth]

Yeah so like

[ashen haven]

is it the gpu cables

[tidal moth]

I usually zip tie cables that leave the motherboard

[ashen haven]

also kinda don't like the way my cooler tubes are positioned

[tidal moth]

Behind the cable door in the back panel

Wait okay I misunderstood the previous image

[ashen haven]

anyway to tie it or leave it

[tidal moth]

I would zip tie the fly sways lower

Fly aways

On your aio

[ashen haven]

fly aways?

[tidal moth]

The thin cables that are all over

Mine are wrapped around my aio

[ashen haven]

is the ones in the background to the right of cpu

[tidal moth]

Yeah those ones

[ashen haven]

so clean

jeez

is your pfp a brainsucker from bloodborne

[tidal moth]

This cable wrapped up my aio

Yeah

Well kinda

[ashen haven]

W

[tidal moth]

It’s actually a dnd monster but it looks a lot like the bloodsuckers very stylized lovecraftian art

[ashen haven]

my first souls. I played this year

platinumed it loved it

[tidal moth]

So good man

Best game

[ashen haven]

yea its so cool

[ashen haven]

ahh I see

and regarding the cooler tubes

any fix

or do I leave as is

[tidal moth]

Uhhh

Mine are really rigid

So they go together

But you can zip tie them together and rotate the zip tie so that the vip block piece behind the tubes only the band shows

[ashen haven]

can I zip tie without harming it

ah perfect

[tidal moth]

Yeah

Idk about the liquid freezer

Especially given how compliant the tubes are

Like your tubes look extremely compliant

Just don’t tighten too much and probably fine

Zip till it stops

And cut the tie off at the box

[ashen haven]

they are fairly rigid

so yea I'm not gonna force it too much

[tidal moth]

Is the cover for the tubes rotated or something?

[ashen haven]

also my magnetic dust filter ok the top is slightly raised bc of the screws

[tidal moth]

The braided part

[shut rampart]

how much ur pc cost cuz I want one

[ashen haven]

can I just fix that with flat screws

[potent portal]

Yep LF2 tubes are extra thiccc to help fluid flow through that thiccc radiator

[tidal moth]

Yeah my screws on top are flat screws for fans

[tidal moth]

Right now it’s probably like 1400

[ashen haven]

um how could I tell?

[tidal moth]

But when I first got it it was like 2200

[tidal moth]

Just give the braided tube covers a little twist and see if they move

[shut rampart]

I want a color theme build

[tidal moth]

Like the cover has been slides to one side

Like right here it looks like a little bendy cover or something

[shut rampart]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/IcyRed/saved/VBjt3C

how much would it cost to build a color theme build with these parts

[ashen haven]

it slides ever so slightly

[tidal moth]

This is the only thing I play right now lol

[tidal moth]

I would try to resolve the super duper wavy tube part unless it’s part of it I have never had a LF2

@shut rampart

[shut rampart]

im looking for a headset tbh my is just old and kinda broken

[tidal moth]

Not sure like you could use normal parts and paint them lol

[ashen haven]

also when I close the glass panel there's slight resistance from the cooler tubes sticking out is that normal

[tidal moth]

Yeah

It’s fine

[ashen haven]

it's part of it I'm sure

[tidal moth]

What is the first game you gonna play?

[ashen haven]

probably mw2. didn't buy on ps5 bc i was waiting for pc. so now I can play w friends

[tidal moth]

Dude good pick

Mw2 so much fun

[ashen haven]

instead of solo queueing overwatch comp lol

[tidal moth]

It really sucks to run tho

So be careful

[ashen haven]

ywa I heard

from my buddies too

[tidal moth]

I use minimum settings because it likes to crash

[ashen haven]

apparently it's not as bad now

[shut rampart]

prob void warranty and too lazy

[tidal moth]

Also make sure you turn off on demand texture streaming

[ashen haven]

yep imm copy my homies settings

[tidal moth]

Nice

That’s good I really enjoy mw2 rn

[ashen haven]

can I send you friend request if I have Future questions

you were super helpful

[ashen haven]

snd is always a good time

[tidal moth]

Sure dude for sure

[severe matrix]

Is there any difference from using the PCIE connector at the end of a daisy chain compared to the other PCIE connector closer to the main cable?

from a PSU

i currently plugged in the connector that’s closer to the psu and further away from the last connector

[potent portal]

Depending on the GPU you might want to use all separate cables or it might be perfectly happy with the daisy chain

[severe matrix]

ok ty

[frigid night]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-hiss-hissing-donald-snack-gif-12874197

[true yew]

Trying to install the nzxt kraken z73 rgb.

I have the usb coming out of the screen and into a usb 2 hub on the motherboard
I have the 3 fans daisey chained, the last one got the long in out cord and into a cord coming from the pump
Pump to sata connected
3 way pwm splitter connected

No rgb on the fans, they are spinning and I can change the display through cam.

[potent portal]

There should be two cables for the fans

[potent portal]

Add the file/folder it's detecting as a false positive to the exclusion list

Oh I thought you said you had false positives

Do you maybe mean false negative instead? Where you expect things to be found but aren't?

Ok? And what's the problem? 0 is good

[mossy venture]

Look immediately below that

Current threats is the label of that information

[analog hearth]

just use Malwarebytes

they have their main anti malware scanner and an adware cleaner

[true yew]

Yep I have 3 of the cables into that y splitter for pwm. The rgb are daisey chained then the first fan plugs into the connector on the pump

[olive cypress]

Process of spray painting the cooler on the 1080 MSI armor

[true yew]

Apparently I cant send a picture, my plus sign is greyed out

[olive cypress]

You have to level up to be able to send photos

Just chat a bit and you'll earn exp

[true yew]

Ah got it, trying to go comment on random stuff without being annoying lol

Probably a dumb question is there a way to see how close you are to leveling up

[stoic island]

Use #ranks-and-levels and /rank

[true yew]

Thanks

Only 13 more points needed

Guess you have to be higher than level 2 :/

The fun of just randonly chatting to upload a pic lol

[stoic island]

Level 3

[true yew]

Sweet

Almost there

Yay I made it

So fans are connected to each other using the in out connections.
First fan has the in coming to the out connector that goes to the pump

[untold vessel]

Guys, For the price, what's better; 13600KF at $308, or 5950X at $360?

[obsidian wigeon]

Depends on what you do

[fossil cedar]

Since 13600k non f is 12$ more I'd get that

Igpu is worth 12$

[mossy venture]

If you're gaming, 13600k

[untold vessel]

I see

What's the cheapest but most effective cooler i can get for the 13600k

[fossil cedar]

deepcool ag620 probably

its like 50$ ish

[untold vessel]

thank you so much pato

[fossil cedar]

np

[little osprey]

np

[jade forge]

Downgrading my i7 4790k to a pentium g3258 since I no longer use the pc anyways

[little osprey]

lol why

[jade forge]

It's sitting in a box anyways if I run into money issues I can still sell the 4790k for $100 + the pentium probably wouldn't sell

[little osprey]

i would buy the pentium for 1$

[empty pollen]

4790k for 100usd? i dont think so

[jade forge]

@empty pollen I'm not selling it anyways but going off Google $100 is good

[empty pollen]

good luck with that

old gen tend to be expensive, that doesn't mean it will sell at that price

and 4th gen is pretty old

[jade forge]

Again I'm not selling it anyways just saying the pentium would never sell so better off have the i7 ready to sell if needed

[empty pollen]

the only way to sell that 4790 should be as a cheap package, like mobo+cpu+mem at like 130 or something (in my opinion)

alone... well who knows, maybe someone will need that chip 😛

[little osprey]

oooga

[little osprey]

no way 750 ti runs at 4k

[empty pollen]

it does

i mean, it can show windows desktop at 4k... so technically... it does

[jade forge]

Need to change it but I like to keep all social media with a different pic

[upper ore]

I've never heard or have used cyberlink crap. Found this on my grandparents laptop and wasn't sure what it was. Anyone know if it's safe?

[lapis python]

Hi

I have question

I have smart remote control fishing bait boatAnd fuldown in sea and damage the motherboard

And I contacted with Mr JOSHUA

He sent for me the new motherboard almost near from my motherboard

But before I buy I should know how to configuration this motherboard with my old remote

[little osprey]

I’d just get rid of whatever isn’t being used

I’m pretty sure it’s safe to use but if you don’t need it just uninstall them

I think it came with my old Toshiba satellite laptops

[empty pollen]

yeah, that cyberlink suite sounds a lot of proprietary bloatware... like alienware bloatware

[little osprey]

yes it is bloatware but some of it was useful 10 years ago

[leaden mauve]

Still unlocked

[ashen haven]

Team T-FORCE DELTA RGB Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600MT/s CL18 Desktop Memory kit

is this good for ram

[mossy venture]

Depends on cpu

[strong raft]

Powerdvd was for burning dvds btw. I had it in the past. (Yes it's legal to have a copy of your own stuff). -- indeed just delete all that crap at this point.👍

[ashen haven]

i7 12th gen

[mossy venture]

12700, 12700k or 12700kf

[ashen haven]

kf

[strong raft]

Could probably do 3600 in gear 1, hopefully.

[mossy venture]

That ram is fine

[tidal moth]

@olive cypress dude that looks like a professional job what paint did you use?

And can I see it in build

[calm oyster]

Dis you really just forget the 12700f?

Racism

[toxic wraith]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/49r7Fg any improvements that could be made?

[severe matrix]

Should I enable Smart Access Memory for my pc? is it basically just free fps?
it wont decrease performance anywhere right

[desert nebula]

I found a deal where the motherboard, psu, and case are 75$.

How do I check if the mb and psu work?

[frigid night]

Yeah enable it. It's free perf

[severe matrix]

ok ty

[blazing granite]

any recommendation on a white pc case that i can put msi p360 AIO on top?

so far i have these in mind

https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-PH-EC360ATG_DMW02-Ultra-fine-Performance-Digital-RGB/dp/B0B3D4GJLC/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3BQFSM98LXUUQ&keywords=white%2Bcase&qid=1671772956&sprefix=white%2Basse%2Caps%2C160&sr=8-2&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.18ed3cb5-28d5-4975-8bc7-93deae8f9840&th=1

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nzxt-h7-flow-atx-mid-tower-case-white/6507391.p?skuId=6507391#anchor=productVariations

[stoic island]

Do the g360a

Td500 mesh and P500a are other options

[earnest olive]

i want to say that both are valid choices performance-wise

so you can just choose subjectively based on looks

objectively the g360a is going to be the better price-performance there

but if you end up really liking how the h7 flow looks it's not a bad choice

[fossil cedar]

Assuming you don't have that gpu cuz it has no price so if you do that's fine just pop that into this build and vice versa (if you want wifi you should probably grab the nzxt z690 n5 also you can't overclock on non z series boards so keep that in mind too i also put 2 ram kits in there, one with rgb one without, pick one)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nXGLXy

[humble fossil]

hi

how to fix a file problem

i can't delete this

[fossil cedar]

If you can't delete them you probably don't have admin permissions

[humble fossil]

how

[fossil cedar]

You're not an administrator?

[humble fossil]

no

[fossil cedar]

So what happens when you click on one of the files?

[humble fossil]

now its open it was show error

[fossil cedar]

Okay navigate to that directory manually

[humble fossil]

idk where they gone

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Sounds like they where already deleted

[humble fossil]

idk

[humble fossil]

problem solved
thx :)

how to know msi afterburner link is safe ??

[olive cypress]

I used some high temp resistant spray paint, I covered with tape the parts that already were black cuz the two colours aren't exactly the same and so i wanted to keep them separate to get a better look
I then used a toothpick w some normal black paint to cover the imperfections

Unfortunately I can't complete the build since I'm still finishing the case
Yes, I'm building it by myself

[cyan ravine]

Use the msi.com one

Not the afterburner.com one

The latter is a virus

[humble fossil]

thx :)

[humble fossil]

where

[cyan ravine]

Google msi afterburner

Pick the msi.com one

There's two links at the top

Pick the msi.com one

[fossil cedar]

It's on msi website

[weary galleon]

Top link

https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner/graphics-cards

[little osprey]

Hello

Can I ask a question?

[still roost]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[little osprey]

I just built a custom gaming computer. Now I’m trying to install windows 11. With no success

Getting an error

This pc can’t run windows 11

[elfin flame]

It may be that either:

1. Your hardware is not compatible for Windows 11
2. You need to update the BIOS on your motherboard to support Windows 11

[little osprey]

How do I send you the list via PCPartPicker

I’m using MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard and AMD Ryzen 9 5900X - Ryzen 9 5000 Series Vermeer (Zen 3) 12-Core 3.7 GHz Socket AM4 105W Desktop Processor - 100-100000061WOF

How do you do the BIOS update

[wicked hawk]

I just built my PC with a Rx 6700 xt in it and the temps are hot on idle, I wanna replace the thermal pads on the vram but I was wondering. Do the vram even touch the heatsink or is there a 1mm gap between them?

Replace it with thermal paste*

[little osprey]

Yes

[wicked hawk]

They're 140 idle and 195 on not even heavy use, 80% usage

Ik but does the vram touch the heatsink pipes? Cuz people are saying it needs 2mm thermal pads

If it touches, I'm gonna put thermal paste instead of pads

I have millions of thermal pastes in my storage lmao

[analog hearth]

theoretically, if you sandwich a piece of copper inside of thermal compound that’s thick enough to make contact between the chip and the heat sink, it’ll cool the chip (don’t try this though lmao)

[analog hearth]

is that in Fahrenheit?

bruh

typically the case on a fresh install of Windows with my 2080 Super. so that makes sense

it would make better sense if it’s a used card too

no? I was thinking that because of old paste

[wicked hawk]

Yes

I just wanna know the exact distance between the vram and heatsink

I might copper mod it

I've tried and wasn't surprised

Since my CPU is running 100 f on load

And 90 idle

I'm not firmiliar with C

I said my CPU is 90f idle

I'm talking about my gpu

I'm asking if anyone knows the distance between the vram and heatsink that's all lmao

I brang it up to show that the base temp in my PC is low

Oh oops

I can't rn I'm not home

But I tried max speed

I know but I didn't come here without spending hours trying different things trust me plus money isn't a problem that's why I'm jumping to replacing the thermal pads

It's ASRock

Searching online for solution and people who had the same problem changing settings, different loads

Why not copper mod it tho?

Not worth what money is not a problem for me

[fossil cedar]

then you should sell your gpu and get a 7900xtx or something lol

[wicked hawk]

You think so?

[wicked hawk]

Okay in that case money would be a problem lmao

[fossil cedar]

if you want quitter gpu perf, undervolt it

[fossil cedar]

and or less heat

honestly i wouldnt ever do it

ehh

[obsidian wigeon]

just a waste of time for not much returned

[blazing granite]

for the case i went ahead and get the NZXT H7

[burnt stratus]

What about my 660

[obsidian wigeon]

h7 isn't very good

[burnt stratus]

g360a or hyte y60 are good cases

[obsidian wigeon]

h7 flow was the one you showed earlier, so why didn't you get the flow?

[burnt stratus]

Or just don’t get a case

[shut rampart]

My pc is suck what did I do wrong

[burnt stratus]

Just hold it

[burnt stratus]

It will boot

Mine does that

Just wait

[blazing granite]

129.99 vs 69.99

[burnt stratus]

It might tell you to connect a drive tho

[shut rampart]

Waited 5 mins…

[obsidian wigeon]

well the half price means half good too

[fossil cedar]

way out if 70$ price range, for that price, the fractal focus 2 is meta

[burnt stratus]

Reset pc

[shut rampart]

Same thing

[obsidian wigeon]

but ye fractal focus 2

[obsidian wigeon]

well then it's got no boot device detected

[burnt stratus]

Pull power, drain it, unplug and replug 24pin @shut rampart

And check drives

It happens to me

[obsidian wigeon]

try checking whether or not are your drives correctly connected

[shut rampart]

It should it has a m.2 on it

and it was working fine yesterday

[burnt stratus]

Use a different m.2 slot

[obsidian wigeon]

well

then you might have to clean the slot

[burnt stratus]

Try this then

[obsidian wigeon]

it might have gotten dirty for some reason

it's not mobo power lol

[burnt stratus]

It sometimes fixes weird problems

Nah it happens to me

[shut rampart]

Yha I’m pulling the power rn

[burnt stratus]

Check drives tho

[blazing granite]

fractal focus 2 doesnt support 360aio on top

[burnt stratus]

That’s probably it

[burnt stratus]

Why so big lol

[obsidian wigeon]

well then do whatever you want i guess, it's your pc kek

[burnt stratus]

That’s massive

[obsidian wigeon]

well 360mm aio is good to have

[burnt stratus]

I want a smaller case, atx is too big

[obsidian wigeon]

especially with a hot cpu

[burnt stratus]

Maybe mini atx

[blazing granite]

i have 7950X

thats swwhy i got p360

[obsidian wigeon]

there's not really much choice for 70 to be frank

if you really insist on top aio mounting

[burnt stratus]

Not for a massive aio

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[burnt stratus]

You might need to spend more

[obsidian wigeon]

but small pc is not always what everyone wants anyway lol

[burnt stratus]

If you insist on a 360mm

[burnt stratus]

Yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

7950x is a pretty hot chip so 360 basically obligatory

[burnt stratus]

Is an i7 12700k super hot

Cuz I have a 240mm

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

[shut rampart]

Ok it fix itself by pulling the power…

[obsidian wigeon]

240 is fine with it

a good air cooler does the job too

^

[shut rampart]

What did power has to do with it not working

[burnt stratus]

Sorry I have a 280

[obsidian wigeon]

sometimes it can have loose connection

[burnt stratus]

Meant 280

lol

I need a fan controller tho cuz I did bad research and my mobo only has 4 fan connectors and I need 5

I could buy a y splitter but id rather just get a controller

[blazing granite]

the mobo is msi x670p-wifi

with corsair 64gb ddr5 6000

[burnt stratus]

It’s Corsair

It’s old though

It runs fine though

I’ll upgrade it soon

[little osprey]

@elfin flame I’m in the BIOS screen…. What do I do next?

[burnt stratus]

Boot pc

Plug in drives

[little osprey]

It’s a PC but I also have a laptop

[elfin flame]

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B550-TOMAHAWK/support

Download the latest version of the BIOS, extract onto your USB drive, and then come back when you're done with downloading and moving to USB

[little osprey]

Ok

[shut rampart]

now it looks like usb ports are not powering my devices, b/c it keep on shuting down and turning back on

:/

[obsidian wigeon]

im starting to suspect it's psu issue

[burnt stratus]

Lmao

[shut rampart]

you think so? it happen to my old parts but some how it fix itself but now it looks the same

[obsidian wigeon]

not sure honestly

only way to test is to put the psu into another system

[limber oyster]

Does anyone know where I can get a new 3.5" HDD drive cage for my gt-501?

GAHHHH work just lost power and now my laptop is being finicky and borderlands keeps rebooting to the main menu

Mhmm

Asus tuff gt501, black edition

👍

Thanks

[little osprey]

@elfin flame I’ve got windows setup now. But I’m unable to connect the PC ago the internet

[elfin flame]

Type into the command prompt

OOBE\BYPASSNRO

[vague oracle]

Anyone have any clue why my PC just randomly restarts?

BRUH

I wonder what could’ve made it unstable

[potent portal]

That specific error often occurs when you have bad memory or storage, or a program is badly misbehaving

[cyan ravine]

Yeah was about to say, that's a cpu or ram error

[vague oracle]

I just ran sfc /scannow and apparently it found corrupted files

Hopefully it’ll be fine

[potent portal]

I'd be looking at your storage drive then

Crystal disk info time

Bad memory can also corrupt the system

[limber oyster]

Nope, Asus does not sell drive bays seperate

[vague oracle]

I didn’t install discord on this PC yet

That’s why I’m just taking pictures

[potent portal]

Brand new drive looks like

[vague oracle]

Yeah I just bought it on Black Friday

Installed it maybe 4 days ago

[potent portal]

Updated bios?

XMP on?

[vague oracle]

No XMP on this ram

Bios is up to date

Running JEDEC ram temporarily just to get this system running

3200CL22

[potent portal]

Run a memory test and try another storage drive to boot off if you have one

[limber oyster]

I think I just found my next case....

Asus TUF gt502

[potent portal]

O11 clone with different tooling

[limber oyster]

And carry straps

And cheaper fans

[potent portal]

Not bad overall I'd say

Not sure why they have fans behind the mobo tho

[limber oyster]

PSU vents

[potent portal]

3 of them?

[limber oyster]

Air intake or exhaust for PSU and HDD drive bays

Especially if you have a reservoir at the side fan mounts

[shut rampart]

any keyboard I can buy with wrist memory form

[potent portal]

It kinda looks like they have a radiator there but it's hard to tell

[limber oyster]

I don't think so

[potent portal]

Yeah I don't think there's enough room for one, so what purpose do those fans have?

[limber oyster]

Actually it can

And idk water cooling wise

But if basic fans, it can provide airflow for PSU and HDD/SSDs

[potent portal]

Yeah weird they have it that way, must be a pain to plumb it

[limber oyster]

Yeah I saw

[potent portal]

Meant for a dual loop, makes more sense ig

[limber oyster]

Maybe if you're running a threadripper and 4090 combo?

But yeah, threadripper, 4090, run top, bottom, and rear radiator with a 240mm reservoir/pump combo on the side

[potent portal]

It doesn't say you can do bottom rad oddly enough

[limber oyster]

And a 140mm combo on the rear

[limber oyster]

I don't see why not?

It's probably because of the GPU bracket they what you to use

Just don't use the bracket and then you can

[potent portal]

Maybe

Looks tall enough to not interfere with standard atx boards

[limber oyster]

Cause looking at the bottom, it does appear to have fan screw slots at the bottom

Without the 3 side fans you should

Just put a reservoir where the side fans are and you're golden

[potent portal]

I think you'd need a slim rad and fans on the bottom

[limber oyster]

Nah, should be fine

Just multiple reservoir/pumps combos and your good

Lol

But in all seriousness, it should theoretically fit with a single 240mm maybe even a 360mm reservoir/pump

[potent portal]

Seems like a very interesting case overall

[limber oyster]

Mhmm

I have the 501 rn

And the hardest thing is I want to expand on my liquid cooling, but I don't have room for a reservoir w/o getting rid of fans

This looks like it takes the same reservoir as the od11

[potent portal]

You can mount a res to the fans, or is there not enough room?

[potent portal]

The distro plate? Yes that looks like it's intentionally done that way

[limber oyster]

Reservoir to fans? Doesn't that ruin airflow?

Seems counter productive

[potent portal]

Something like this would work fine

A little obstruction but not too bad

[limber oyster]

Ahhh

Maybe

I use Alphacool so I'll have to see what they offer

And see how much shipping costs....

[potent portal]

I know they have brackets for that

[limber oyster]

I swear imma move to Germany one day

[potent portal]

https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/reservoirs/tubing-reservoirs/alphacool-accessoires/20920/alphacool-120/140mm-mounting-bracket-for-alphacool-eisbecher-2-pcs

They also have 120 only for more space constrained cases

[limber oyster]

Yeah

I thought about getting a 140mm pump/reservoir combo and putting it where my rear fan is

But idk how much tubing I need, how many of the adapters I need, etc

[potent portal]

General rule of tubing is buy extra. When you think you have enough, buy more.

[limber oyster]

I guess

Imma use soft tubing so...

[potent portal]

Especially if you do hard tube

Soft isn't so bad but a bad cut that's a couple degrees off can ruin a whole section

[limber oyster]

They have the quick disconnect so all I need to do is cut off small amounts at once

Like 1/4" at a time. Maybe even 1/8"

[proven salmon]

Hay can someone tell me if this is a good build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[empty pollen]

wrong link pal

[proven salmon]

Oh

[empty pollen]

must be a link like this

[proven salmon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6VPxKp

[potent portal]

MP33 is cheaper but otherwise that looks good https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Brvqqs/team-mp33-512-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6512g0c101

[proven salmon]

Alright thanks

[potent portal]

Oh and you'd probably want the regular 5600 instead of the 5600g, they removed some cache to add the iGPU

[empty pollen]

i would do something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Lvjk9

[potent portal]

Another option, minor edits

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FTvjk9

[empty pollen]

yeah that psu is cheaper than my build

[potent portal]

I saw no reason to change the BM2, it's a tier C so good enough for low/mid end

[empty pollen]

yeah i have the bad habit to cut corners on everything but the psu

[potent portal]

I wouldn't call that a bad habit per se

[empty pollen]

:(\

[burnt stratus]

yes, no need to get plat rated power supplies when bronze works fine! especially for 30 and 40 series cards

[burnt stratus]

lol what

Why would you do that

oh

[potent portal]

Wooosh

[limber oyster]

My psu

I certainly didn't cut corners

[burnt stratus]

that seems a bit overkill, no?

[limber oyster]

Ryzen 9 5900x, 3080rtx, water cooled cpu/GPU, 8 gen 4 NVMes, 32GB ram, lots of RGB...

[burnt stratus]

ah

[mossy venture]

EIGHT?

[burnt stratus]

wait what

[limber oyster]

8x1TB gen 4 nvmes

[burnt stratus]

whyy

[limber oyster]

Why not

[burnt stratus]

why not just get more high storage nvmes

[limber oyster]

If you have the space

[mossy venture]

Why though

[limber oyster]

It's cheaper

Buy them 1TB at a time

[mossy venture]

Why not get 4 2tb or 2 4tb

Ehhh

[limber oyster]

Easier on the paycheck

[mossy venture]

2tb s70 blade is $180

[burnt stratus]

you have a watercooled pc

come on

[limber oyster]

Yeah, and each water cooler was $400

Because of shipping from Germany

[burnt stratus]

oh

[gentle pollen]

My question is this.

[limber oyster]

And I waited a while before I water cooled my 3080

[gentle pollen]

How do you even have a Mobo that supports 8 M.2s?!

[limber oyster]

Give me a sec

[gentle pollen]

Like I get the logic so yeah but I am very confused on your Mobo.

The most I've seen is 5, and that on a $2000 Mobo.

[limber oyster]

With an Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero Wi-Fi x570

[burnt stratus]

why

[gentle pollen]

Oh, so you have that + the 4 on your Mobo?

[burnt stratus]

is ethernet not good?

[limber oyster]

What you mean Ethernet

[limber oyster]

I have two of them

[gentle pollen]

Thought these could only be used for raid use.

[burnt stratus]

oh thats not a wifi card

he just mentioned wifi

lol

[limber oyster]

You put 4 NVMes in each and they can be formatted separately

[gentle pollen]

Ahh I see.

I might do the same in the future.

[burnt stratus]

or just

[limber oyster]

and so I have room for 2 more on my board

[burnt stratus]

use sata drives

[gentle pollen]

To slow.

[limber oyster]

This also doesn't disable sata ports

So all of my sata ports are still enabled

[burnt stratus]

oh

[gentle pollen]

I have 4 M.2s currently and man is it so much easier to travel with than SSDs.

Speed aside, as a nomad that's big incentive for me to go M.2 vs big chunky SSDs.

[burnt stratus]

yes wow thats a lot faster

but is it really noticable

[limber oyster]

This was before the second addition

I also have three front fans

[gentle pollen]

Is that a eisbaer cooler?

[limber oyster]

Eisbaer and Eiswolf

[gentle pollen]

Ahh I see.

[limber oyster]

Mhmm

Debating expanding and cooling my RAM too

[gentle pollen]

Mhmm, if your willing to, TT has a AIO that cools ram and CPU.

Not sure how it performs though.

[limber oyster]

Yeah, but you need THEIR ram

[gentle pollen]

Ik.

[limber oyster]

Alphacool has ram heatsinks that can replace the heatsink on ANY ram

[gentle pollen]

Oh really?

[limber oyster]

So I could keep my Corsair rams and just swap out the heatsinks

[gentle pollen]

I see, didn't know that existed.

[limber oyster]

The alphacool coolers also have quick disconnect connectors to connect to other radiators as well. All without voiding warrenty

[gentle pollen]

Gotcha.

[limber oyster]

It's featured in PC Builder Simulator 2 if you wanna check it out

[gentle pollen]

I was debating if I should get the Eisbaer Pro or LT720 this morning.

Decided to buy the LT720.

[limber oyster]

I'm Alphacool all the way

Expansion without voiding warrenty? Yes please

[gentle pollen]

Was a bit cheaper so it fit my budget.

[limber oyster]

It even comes with instructions on how to connect the CPU with the GPU so they're running in series, all in the box

[gentle pollen]

How's the temps?

Oh and what CPU?

[limber oyster]

Ryzen 9 5900x at 4.7ghz, below 70°C under load

[gentle pollen]

4.7 all core?

[limber oyster]

Asus ROG Strix OC Gaming 3080 RTX 10GB below 75°C as well

[limber oyster]

Yep

I use the artic MX-6 paste

[gentle pollen]

Nice, that's around 300mhz OC isn't it?

[limber oyster]

More like 1GHz I think

[gentle pollen]

I am pairing the LT720 in P12 push/pull for the 13900k I will be ordering in about a week.

I did push/pull for aesthetics mostly, xD I wanted that bright vibrant color in my case.

[limber oyster]

Yeah, preformance core clock is 3.7

I'm pushing 4.7

[gentle pollen]

Seriously?

Damn.

[wicked hawk]

I have a crucial p5 and can't find the driver for windows 7? Is it possible to install windows 7 on crucial p5?

[limber oyster]

It's a 12core/24thread CPU

I'm avoiding Intel CPUs due to the fact that anything above i5 don't really have the advertised cores. They're all hyper threaded cores

[mossy venture]

Should be, but why bother?

[mossy venture]

???

[limber oyster]

Maybe they like w7 UI?

[mossy venture]

How does that matter

They still give performance

E cores give amazing multi core perf boost

[limber oyster]

Cause rather than having 12 physical cores, you have 8 core with 4 being hyper threaded

[gentle pollen]

I see. I got the 13900K since I do a lot of rendering in apps which uses more CPU then GPU.

[mossy venture]

Again, and?

How does that matter

[limber oyster]

I'd rather have 12 core, 24 threads vs "12" cores 18 threads

[mossy venture]

That-

Ok

[limber oyster]

Don't quote me on the 18 threads

Idk the exact number

[mossy venture]

Performance is performance

Just because they're not hyperthreaded doesn't mean the performance of the cpu suddenly drops

The 13600k with less threads has better multi core perf than the 7700x iirc

Wait actually that's a lie, it has more threads I think

Still, point stands

Just because it has cores without hyperthreading doesn't suddenly mean the performance is invalid

[limber oyster]

Ok, so it's 12/20 for i7

Also, comparing a 13th gen CPU to a 5th gen cpu doesn't seem fair to me...

[mossy venture]

What?

7700x

That's am5

[limber oyster]

Intel 13th gen to a Ryzen 7000 series

Yeah, that's a 5th gen ryzen

[mossy venture]

Ok?

[limber oyster]

You have 1000, 2000, 3000, 5000, 7000

[mossy venture]

How is that not fair???

[limber oyster]

7000 is 5th gen

[mossy venture]

7000 is 7000 series or am5

[limber oyster]

That's like comparing a car company that's brand new to a car company that's been doing it for 200 years

[limber oyster]

Ik

[mossy venture]

HOW?

[limber oyster]

It's still the 5th gen Ryzen...

[mossy venture]

Again

How does that matter

You do know amd has cpus before 1000 series, right?

[limber oyster]

Has, but not RYZEN

[mossy venture]

My dude

[limber oyster]

And Intel had CPUs before the core series

[hardy phoenix]

Okay guys don't laugh at me.... First SOLO BUILD.... Usually I have a buddy that picks out my components... Trying to build a solid streaming gamer.... am I close with this.... https://newegg.io/a8206e83 TIA

[limber oyster]

Imma just go...

[mossy venture]

Even if that were a valid point, it doesn't change performance

[hardy phoenix]

I know.... IDK MUCH!!!

Lol

[limber oyster]

Comparing mobile CPUs to desktop....yeah

[hardy phoenix]

I get it

[limber oyster]

Let's compare a pistol to a rocket launcher....

[mossy venture]

When my internet decides to work I'll take a look

[mossy venture]

What I dont understand

Is how you're defending a product you're admiting is worse, especially when it costs more overall, by saying it's unfair

Neither company cares about us

[limber oyster]

What I dont understand is why Intel doesn't just make an actual 12 core cpu

[mossy venture]

...

Ok

[limber oyster]

Why sell a CPU that only has 8 physical cores as a 12?

[mossy venture]

MMMM

[limber oyster]

Just call it a 8core

[mossy venture]

It has more cores than that though

Like

[limber oyster]

But if they're not physically on the die...does it really

[mossy venture]

E cores are physical cores

They openly advertise that the e cores have worse performance

It's not like they're hiding it

[limber oyster]

That's not how it was explained to me butnok

*but ok

[mossy venture]

E cores are four cores that take up the space of one p core

And those four e cores together have better efficiency and performance than a single p core

[limber oyster]

It was someone on the IBP website

Well I was explained to it as the way I thought by someone on the iBuyPower website

Mhmm

One of the actual builders

That's fair

Look at me lmao

I've built 5 PCs...

Doesn't mean I understand TFLOPs and PFLOPS and cuda cores

[hardy phoenix]

Although I saw an I9 on sale today when looking... 12th Gen vs 13th Gen I7... and THANKS!!!

[earnest olive]

ibp builders not knowing what a core is explains some things about their build quality

[earnest olive]

13700K > 12900K/KS in every way

only consider 12900K/KS if ~$100 cheaper

[hardy phoenix]

So then my original choice is best.... Well, that's one.... now if the rest of my build matches up.....

[empty pollen]

man what a lively chat this was

the 13th gen vs 5th gen killed me

dang bro

https://tenor.com/view/fight-me-come-at-bro-ese-rat-gif-16181220

[hardy phoenix]

Dats NACHO CHEESE!!!!

[toxic wraith]

ok thanks

[hardy phoenix]

Don't think so... PDX....

Yeah!!!!

I guess my question would be to you that are knowledgeable.... Would you change anything? To possibly save some cash??? Or just a better mesh than what I have listed..... https://newegg.io/a8206e83

[fossil cedar]

no problemo

[earnest olive]

or a used msi pro z690-a on ebay to save even more money

[hardy phoenix]

Did I mention first SOLO.....

[earnest olive]

I got mine for $100

damn

rommy too powerful