#building-and-recc-chat

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cold turtle
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I have not

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I have a crappy one

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but I will surely get a new one

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for the last time, do you think RX is my best bet at this point? For editing and occasional gaming?

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it will be the biggest investment that I will be making probably

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I want it to be perfect :)

fossil cedar
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Yep

cold turtle
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awesome, thank you all for your patience and helping me

fossil cedar
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np

cold turtle
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one last thing

fossil cedar
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Go for it

cold turtle
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do you think the GPU will weight too much to carry in the bag (most likely in the checked in one), and how much is the chance of it getting damaged meanwhile?

empty pollen
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usually gpus are well protected inside their boxes, but some extra cushion outside will help as well

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that extra cushion depends on you

stoic island
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Unless you throw it around, the GPU inside the sealed box it comes in is going to be just fine

empty pollen
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true, most of them are well protected in foam inside the box

stoic island
cold turtle
cold turtle
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and my backpack

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I don't trust anyone, so I will carry that in my backpack ahaha

stoic island
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Just weigh it before you head to the airport

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Take stuff from your bag and put into your luggage as needed

cold turtle
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of course

empty pollen
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should be around 4 to 6 pounds most of the time, but thats on you, weight it as well before setting your luggage

cold turtle
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now, it is too late, I will go over RX models and pick the best one in a few days

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but I narrowed down my broad searching path from RTX and RX, to only RX

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which is awesome

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performance is killing it as I saw benchmark as well

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only thing is Ray tracing and DLSS

empty pollen
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fsr is almost at par with dlss, and raytracing is meaningless on 30/6000 series anyway

cyan ravine
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3080 is like the floor

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Anything below it is just nope

cold turtle
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RX also costs more less

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ops, did I say something wrong lol

cyan ravine
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More less

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Is confusing lol

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But yes RX is cheaper

empty pollen
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a lot less could be a better phrasing

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but we get it anyway

cold turtle
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well, I am a beginner to building, please excuse

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:D

weary galleon
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I'm playing the Metro Exodus PC enhanced edition which is fully raytraced on a 3060ti

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Get about 60fps outdoors with DLSS set to quality

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Mix of high and ultra settings, 1440p

brittle spindle
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I sold my old rx 570 for $40, but now I’m thinking it was undervalued, am I wrong?

earnest olive
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fair price if 4gb

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a little undervalued if 8gb

bitter mason
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it's nice but I can't imagine shelling out $4600 like that

analog pulsar
brittle tinsel
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my brother wants to me save photos from his mac before blowing it out. will photos saved from mac be savable/openable on windows?

empty pollen
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why not? if they are jpg sure

brittle tinsel
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alright, thankks

strong raft
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That's the key, make sure are jpg or such instead some bs apple format.

bitter mason
analog pulsar
floral path
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Do ultra graphics look the same on a every gpu at the same fps? I know ue5 has dynamic Tessellation so would a 4090 day at 60fps have more tessalation then a 3070 at 60fps? Or would they be identical give or take some fps

brittle tinsel
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I need some help identifying a graphics card

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the stick says rx570

stoic island
brittle tinsel
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the back serial number points to a 460 and the front serial says 580

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im lost

desert gulch
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Hwinfo64 or GPU-Z are both easy programs to check

brittle tinsel
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its not in anyones systems

stoic island
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Take a picture of it again if you can?

brittle tinsel
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the sticker that says 570 doesnt seem to be in the right place as you can see where a previous sticker was. I got it from a shady company so I am skeptical about it

cyan ravine
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Stick it in a system and check

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Did you do paypal goods and services or ebay?

brittle tinsel
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wouldnt matter, these came out of prebuilts when lyte technolgy sent us the wrong gpus, and 250gb hdds instead of the 1tb. terrible company, they did that with all 3 prebuilts

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they eventually gave us the proper cards but then never provided the information or would pay the shipping to send these back

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so 3 years later, I dont need em

cyan ravine
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Well gpu-z is your friend for knowing

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Or you could spend hours scouring techpowerup images

brittle tinsel
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I know, I considered it, but nobody is around to help me swap em, I cant do it alone with cerebral palsy.
the other 2 cards are clearly marked rx570 4gb. but they are gigabyte with a heatplate. instead of the one msi

cyan ravine
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Oh I didn't know

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Sorry man

brittle tinsel
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idk, I need em gone but I dont want to list the wrong thing ya know

cyan ravine
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They're all the same?

brittle tinsel
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2 of them are gigabyte rx 570 4gb with a backplate like above, the one I cant identify is msi

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that when searched the numbers says its a 460, 570 or 580

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I wish it would make up its mind

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here,
the backside of the pcb has these
f-1 e305n6596bb
Model MS-v341
MSIP-REI-MSI-MS-V341

the fan side of the pcb says v341 ver 2.1

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I think its this 480 4gb...
the stickers underlined in red is where there is glue showing stickers there before and the green is where the not so legit 570 sticker is placed.

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the back of the card looks IDENTICLE to this

cyan ravine
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If it looks identical then it'll be likely

brittle tinsel
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I find it conveinant the stickers are in the exact same spot

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well were, until they were replaced with scam stickers

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thats what I get for not knowing much about computers when I ordered them

cyan ravine
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It happens

brittle tinsel
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black friday sale was too good to be true

cyan ravine
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Sad that we can't help

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I wish I could

potent portal
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570 is effectively the same as a 480 at least

brittle tinsel
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stickers in the same spot

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but where the bottom left stick is, is a red white and black Rx 570 sticker. why tf do they all look the same?

stoic island
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It's most likely not 480, the heat pipe doesn't stick out as much on the 480

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570 image from tpu for reference

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Although 470 design looks basically the same from the front

brittle tinsel
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ok, well if it is a 570. now the only question is 4gb or 8?

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judging by the photos you posted im gonna say 570

stoic island
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It might still be a 470

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470 or 570 looks the same from the front

brittle tinsel
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what would be a tell tale sign?

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The codes in the top left from the pins

stoic island
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Same thing on the PCB of 470 and 570 it seems, they might've reused the pcb

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Although lemme check again

brittle tinsel
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the one I have has 1 hdmi and 3 dp if that helps

stoic island
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Both 470 and 570 has 3 dp 1 HDMI 1 dvi d

brittle tinsel
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what was that software that would detect it? ill see if I can get someone over to swap em out temp

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it wont mess up my nvidia drivers will it?

stoic island
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Just don't download the Radeon drivers, use GPUz

brittle tinsel
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are you able to put that on a usb

stoic island
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Probably..? It's like 5mb

woven horizon
floral path
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So the xt has 1 of the 6 xtx dies disabled is it has 17% less dies. So 17% of 999$ is 830 ish. So you are overpaying 70$. 40$ would be meaningless and I’m sure it has 30$ of value missing somewhere? Are the dies physical disabled, cut?, or is the max output limited and all 6 dies work ?

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Nvm. McDaniel

cyan ravine
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They said in reviews that the 7900 XT was basically an upsell for the XTX

obsidian wigeon
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^

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Just don't think too much of it

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XTX better value, period

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Also disabling die doesn't mean cost is decreased accordingly to the amount remaining

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It's not a linear curve

obsidian wigeon
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7900XT shoulda been like a 799 card tops

potent portal
elfin flame
little osprey
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magical night light

elfin flame
west cloak
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i like that case

dim forge
tidal moth
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Not as pretty as the 011 mini

leaden mauve
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900D > 011

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fight me

tidal moth
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011 mini>

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All cases

leaden mauve
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alright

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fight me

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weirdo bozo

tidal moth
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You are dead

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My boy dope Francis pulling up WITH THE STICK

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THE EXTENDO CLIP

tidal moth
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HE PULLS UP ON YOUR BLOCK… LETS IT RIP

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THE CAT WITH THE GAT

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CALL IT NINE LIVES

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PULL UP ON YOUR BLOCK

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AND UNLOAD THE NINE

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CALL HIM THE CARPENTER

leaden mauve
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bro...

tidal moth
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HAMMER AND SICKLE

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ALL YOUR BLOOD GONNA TRICKLE

tidal moth
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You aren’t gonna rap battle me

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Why not?

leaden mauve
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those are all stolen bars

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get outta here smh.

tidal moth
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Google them then

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Find my bars

leaden mauve
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i dont feel like it

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nah im good

tidal moth
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I wrote them fart

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I literally just wrote them

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I like rap it’s my main genre

leaden mauve
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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i never listen to rap

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90% of it is mid or garbage

tidal moth
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Yk what here

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I’ll do you a playlist full of bangers

leaden mauve
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kendrick lamar lol

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nah im good

tidal moth
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Kendrick Lamar is insane

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Literally one of the best of the modern era

frigid night
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He's aight

tidal moth
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Absolutely atrocious

frigid night
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Meh

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I only really like humble

tidal moth
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Reorist you are a troll man

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I can’t take you seriously

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You just want to see the world burn dog

frigid night
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How am I trolling?

tidal moth
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Not my vibe

frigid night
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It's just my opinion

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I'm more into old rap like nwa/2pac

bitter mason
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imagine building a computer where shoes go

frigid night
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But aren't you a basic white girl already?

elfin flame
frigid night
bitter mason
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lol @frigid night called you a basic white girl

elfin flame
bitter mason
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well maybe you give that impression

frigid night
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I know she isn't white. I'm just bored.

bitter mason
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same

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hence the fanning the flames

frigid night
bitter mason
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well what seems to be the problem, Officer?

bitter mason
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oh wooow

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what's it like hitting tj max on stonk settings?

frigid night
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Lol

bitter mason
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"hardly" doesn't & "it doesn't" mean two different things lol

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wait a few months lol

elfin flame
bitter mason
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I know it's almost like putting those components as close together as possible combined with no front intake & little to no space for bottom intake isn't helping or something

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I prefer omnipotent but close enough

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now you're the telephonic one! how did you know they just hired me

elfin flame
frigid night
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Stop accusing me of that.

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I'm a basic white girl.

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Thats cool

bitter mason
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damn where heatsink?

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lol

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hmm

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sounds ripe for more excellent thermal performance

elfin flame
bitter mason
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but you heart air coolers

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btw serious question

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in the NR200, if you flip the back fan to be intake would it help at all? you have top exhaust so

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since like CPU cooler would probably use the cool air coming in & stuff

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I think I remember you telling me ya

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what CPU is going in there?

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oh alright so pretty much 3090 is the only real thermal concern I guess then

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oh I impulse bought a 13600K

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should be here Monday I think

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after I beat the crap out of it for hw boints we can discuss it going in your fancy shoe box lmao

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well heck when you put it like that...

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will that bottleneck 3090 at some point?

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lol DR bdie + 3090 + i3

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(I guess you can likely guess where this conversation is about to go in 5... 4... 3...)

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bdie when?

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4k? 4k+?

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niice

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I haven't been tuning A-die for the past few days cuz I put 1080ti in 12900K build for hwboints

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ya dunno why bios was so borked

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okay I'll be here when you're ready to tell sad thermal stories

frigid night
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What switches?

elfin flame
frigid night
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Also.. how does that v8 energy taste?

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The ones in your pic look brown though?

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Ah k

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Rough

bitter mason
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I've been using K55 more cuz the cherry silver or whatever on my other keyboard are so noisy. Membrane switches aren't thaaat bad

stoic island
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Yea t1s aren't as good as u4t prelubed

upper ore
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Have they fixed windows 11? Should I update to it or stick to windows 10?

obsidian wigeon
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I don't see win 11 having issues

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Been using it for a year now

upper ore
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I just remember awhile back that windows 11 had alot of problems.

obsidian wigeon
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But imo I wouldn't upgrade just cause win 11 has some annoying changes to the ui

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I got used to it myself

upper ore
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What all changed?

obsidian wigeon
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Some stuff are more buried inside menus

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Like the context menu having less options on display, some pretty useful to have easily accessible hidden away in a button that brings up the rest

upper ore
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What's good about windows 11 that windows 10 doesn't have?

obsidian wigeon
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None honestly

upper ore
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Alright lol

obsidian wigeon
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It's pretty much a new skin

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Tabs in windows explorer I guess, but that's recently added

strong raft
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Win11 is really good if cpu has Ecores, otherwise indeed don't bother yet. Part of why I like the 12400 & such. Gonna be a while until I snag a 13600k or such.

obsidian wigeon
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^

upper ore
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Yeah I don't think it'll be as good for me since I have the 5800X3D

strong raft
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Right. Personally some of ui changes would be a definite downgrade for me.

empty pollen
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yeah sadly, e-cores need win 11 😦

earnest olive
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i like win11 ui better for the most part

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the new right click menu and start menus not so much

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but startallback fixes that

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i believe some minor improvements in gaming performance have been measured on win11 even on cpus without e-cores

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but it's nothing too crazy

strong raft
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Good when a newer os improves performance for a change though. I actually found a $150ish 12600K on Ebay. My wallet hates me, but soon enough I can replace the old E8400 build also. Pog

tidal moth
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Literally an itx case also the node 202> all cases

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No doubt

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With a little case modding it’s just so op

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The pc gods need to nerf it

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Beyond op

tidal moth
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Says right there

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Itx

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Look at the board layout right there

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Itx

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Right in the middle there

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You need to instal an extension kit to support atx

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You literally need an extra piece to instal an atx motherboard

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You need to install an additional 2 inches of back space

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Same width you need the bracket

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Itx is a different width

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Matx and atx are the same width. It only supports itx natively without a bracket that widens mounting space

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WIDTH

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Atx and matx same width

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Itx not as wide

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See

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Without bracket

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With bracket

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You need more back space for an atx or matx board

cyan ravine
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Da hecc

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It's mah case

tidal moth
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See the bracket here

cyan ravine
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Oh is this the changing the slots for different boards thing

tidal moth
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Yeah

cyan ravine
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What the heck is that

tidal moth
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And atx looks literally MASSIVE

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inside it

cyan ravine
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Mine doesn't have that

tidal moth
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Terrible look

cyan ravine
tidal moth
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Here is matx

cyan ravine
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O11 mini air just accepts my ATX

tidal moth
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It’s designed for itx

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Both matx and atx require an additional bracket

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Only supports itx natively

cyan ravine
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Yeah if it supports bigger boards it's def not ITX

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Btw

tidal moth
cyan ravine
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This case

tidal moth
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It looks amazing

cyan ravine
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It's as big as a mid tower

tidal moth
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Best case on market

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No doubt

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But it is so pretty

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And it’s an itx case

cyan ravine
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It has a footprint wider than a mid tower, it's just not as tall lol

tidal moth
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Not wider

cyan ravine
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No it's footprint is as big as the o11 pretty much

tidal moth
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It does not support a full size power supply

cyan ravine
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The mini doesn't

tidal moth
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That’s not true

cyan ravine
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But the mini air does

tidal moth
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It does not support a full size psu

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Nope

cyan ravine
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Yes

tidal moth
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Does not rommy

tidal moth
cyan ravine
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The mini air does

tidal moth
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No

cyan ravine
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But it's not inherently ITX

tidal moth
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Only sfx power supplies

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It literally is

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Copage

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Major copage

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Rommy having regrets

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Regretting pc case choice

cyan ravine
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My similarly sized mini air is ATX lol

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It takes all ATX

cyan ravine
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O11 mini is just not as optimised

tidal moth
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011 mini is beautiful

cyan ravine
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Mini air better

tidal moth
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The 001 d though that’s a basic white girl case

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Mini has style

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It’s different

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It has a tiny footprint

cyan ravine
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It has more volume than my corsair mid towers

tidal moth
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I only build in itx

cyan ravine
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WHAT

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IT'S HUGE

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STOP MEMEING

tidal moth
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My main reason for changes cases was reducing the amount of size my pc took up on my desk

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And i did

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He has the air

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With the atx psu

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Wider footprint

cyan ravine
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HAHAHA

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Mini supports eatx

tidal moth
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It is

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Sure

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You can build itx in it

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So it is a case -> that supports itx -> itx case

cyan ravine
tidal moth
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I literally just went over this you need a support bracket to support anything other than itx

cyan ravine
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For comparison here's the fractal pop

tidal moth
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It only natively supports itx

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You need the bracket to expand it’s compatibility

cyan ravine
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Bracket doesn't mean it's not ATX

tidal moth
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I can saw a hole in the node 202 and fit an atx motherboard in it

cyan ravine
tidal moth
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It only natively supports itx

cyan ravine
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We aren't sawing holes in the o11 mini tho

tidal moth
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You need more things to make it support atx and matx

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Additional installs

cyan ravine
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But that's like how the evo will do a vert mount with an additional install

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Or vented panels or upright gpu

tidal moth
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I guess but it’s still an itx case

cyan ravine
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LOL

tidal moth
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Look at how pretty it is

cyan ravine
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Ok we can agree to disagree

tidal moth
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Sure

fossil cedar
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Wha happen

tidal moth
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With an additional bracket*

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NEEDS AN ADDITIONAL BRACKET

cyan ravine
tidal moth
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it only natively supports itx

cyan ravine
tidal moth
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You can make a ton of cases fit an atx motherboard if you change them

cyan ravine
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Similarly the opposite too

tidal moth
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But it only natively supports itx

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You need the motherboard stand off widener

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You should have used the mjolnir

heavy atlas
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anyone know a good mic that’s maybe on sale under 50$?

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like a good gaming headset

stoic island
heavy atlas
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headset

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ion have a pc yet so ima wait on a mic

stoic island
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I think cloud ii is 50$ rn

heavy atlas
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Limited-time deal: Logitech G435 LIGHTSPEED and Bluetooth Wireless Gaming Headset - Lightweight over-ear headphones, built-in mics, 18h battery, compatible with Dolby Atmos, PC, PS4, PS5, Nintendo Switch, Mobile - Blue https://a.co/d/hrkfOyz

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i heard that’s a good q

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1*

frail valve
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Ignore what I posted earlier, I was wrong

shut rampart
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Still getting out of memory fixing texture or something for my gpu

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6700 xt already did ddu

proven salmon
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Yo anyone knows a good pre built pc for $700?

mossy venture
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if you're comfortable building

proven salmon
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Okay thanks

mossy venture
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the one pato linked is great for the price

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just hard to upgrade

novel python
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Here is a build I am working on. I will be using it for video editing and some gaming. The gpu I am looking at to get is 6800 or 6800 xt. Any suggestions will be appreciated

earnest olive
limber oyster
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Opinions?

dim forge
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Guys, any bugdet itx board to fix a 12400F?

empty pollen
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budget and itx cant go in the same sentence 😛

little osprey
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It can, if you consider asrock ☠️

empty pollen
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well there is also a gigglebyte z690i at 140usd

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seems pretty capable

potent portal
little osprey
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budget for ITX standards

potent portal
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Oh so now we're changing the rules? lol

little osprey
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Mmk

cyan ravine
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Pcie 3 x16 shouldn't bottleneck any gpu, only the cpu tied to it

empty pollen
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yeah thats why i mentioned it later as well

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found the z690i at 140usd price, even with all the "shortcomings" still a budget offer for an itx build

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cause we all know itx is not budget-friendly at all

empty pollen
tawny fiber
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4090 still doesn't really get effected by pcie gen 3

forest leaf
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When will deal cember will start?? I mean what date??

forest leaf
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For me it’s saying “coming soon”

obsidian wigeon
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Specs: Cat

floral ore
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Not anywhere really it just seems like the fans click on and off

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While I hold it

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Once it boots I’ll change it

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U mean how long I hold it?

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Because if I don’t nothing happens

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After like 3 minutes of holding it it works

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Oh

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How do I quell this

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What cord?

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Sorry lol

mossy venture
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lil two pin cable

floral ore
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Oh

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The green thing?

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Oops it’s blurry hold on

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I just don’t know which one because I don’t want to break it

stoic island
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Look on your motherboard side, look at where you plug in front io cables too, and check that

floral ore
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Front io?

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No exaggeration. I wish it was

stoic island
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When you installed the motherboard into the case, there was a couple of wires from the case that you had to plug into the motherboard, out of those, one is for the power button

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They're in like a cluster usually on the bottom right of the motherboard

floral ore
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I see them

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Unplug and replug?

stoic island
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Yes, and check it's in the right place just in case

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Polarity doesn't matter much but just make sure they're plugged into the right pins

floral ore
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How do I know if they’re wrong?

limber oyster
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Does anyone know of any good ARGB fans that have a low base rpm setting

floral ore
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@stoic island

stoic island
# floral ore

Check manual for pinout or pinout might be printed below where the pins are there, and match up the connectors with what the pinout says

floral ore
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The pin out would be in the manual for?

stoic island
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What motherboard is it?

floral ore
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B550-f

stoic island
# floral ore B550-f

Here's the pinout from the manual, the pins in red is what the power switch should be plugged into, so check if the connector plugged into these pins is the right connector, and make sure it has good contact

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And also, just as a test, you could short those 2 pins and see if it starts up right away

paper summit
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Yea also that board tends to cycle before actually starting

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Atleast mine did

floral ore
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So me holding the button down for a few is normal?

floral ore
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The word power is on the bottom of the cable. Should I flip it so it’s facing up?

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I’ll turn it on and change fan speeds too

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@little osprey what should I change the fan speeds too?

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I’m just “calibrating them to be more optimized

stoic island
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The difference is
Press button (1 second) -> wait (1 minute) -> boot
Is normal
Hold down button (3 minutes) -> boot
Is not

paper summit
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Ik lmao

floral ore
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Ok

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Well after messing with cords and changing my fans output I got some rgb on a few fans that had never worked but it does now

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Well I just turned it on and it went in like 4 seconds

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So

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Yes and that is either because I had just turned it off.. or I fixed it

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Sorry I got sidetracked from doing something on my pc I needed to do so one sec

#

@little osprey

paper summit
#

Bros pc starts like an old cummins

stoic island
stoic island
#

After they got it to work in 4 seconds instead of the usual 3 minutes, what happens when they just press it for a second now

low path
#

question

heavy atlas
#

what’s a good pau for that bills?

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build psu*

#

i need 2 know quickly

fossil cedar
heavy atlas
#

i’m not sure

#

can you send me one that is good for that build

fossil cedar
#

Yeah but it'll depend on what gpu you're gonna use

heavy atlas
#

idk this is my first build

#

just getting into it

#

what will be a good gpu?

fossil cedar
#

What have you already bought and whats left of that budget?

#

Oh i see the stuff you have purchased

heavy atlas
#

yea

fossil cedar
#

What's left of the budget

heavy atlas
#

wym

#

like how much do i have left to spend?

fossil cedar
#

Yes

heavy atlas
#

prolly about like 550

#

600

fossil cedar
#

Okay

heavy atlas
#

i’m getting the rest of the parts for christmas besides the boi

#

gpu

#

but idk what psu cus that one i’m using is out of stock

fossil cedar
#

Ahh so other parts already ordered?

#

Like ssd and case?

heavy atlas
#

i’m not sure

fossil cedar
#

If they are already ordered or not does that affect your 550-600$ budget for the gpu/power supply or is case and ssd included in that 550-600?

heavy atlas
#

so i’m trying to spend 500 on the cpu

#

gpu*

#

so no

fossil cedar
#

Okay I'll do one if others gotten and ond if not

heavy atlas
#

ok

#

ty

floral ore
stoic island
#

Try jumping the pwr pins to start instead of using the power button

floral ore
#

How?

stoic island
#

Just grab a screwdriver or something similar and tap the pins where the screwdriver would short between the pins

floral ore
#

Anything that’s metal?

fossil cedar
# heavy atlas ty

Sorry got distracted
If bought case and ssd:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TFWHZw
If not, case is optional but I'd do that the ssd is cheaper and better:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mC2Xqm

floral ore
stoic island
#

On the Mobo

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The two pins that the power button was wired to

#

The pins labeled pwrsw in the manual

floral ore
#

It doesnt boot only clicks like normal

stoic island
#

And if you hold the screwdriver there?

floral ore
#

Same reaction from pc as if I hold button

stoic island
#

Try plugging the PC into a different outlet

floral ore
#

If it’s relevant one time I unplugged everything cleaned my entire pc and stuff then it only needed to be pressed.

#

The next morning it was back to normal

desert gulch
#

@stoic island clicking as in PSU protections for shorting maybe?

#

Idk maybe check pcie and eps to make sure eps is in eps

stoic island
desert gulch
#

Huh

stoic island
#

Before blaming PSU I'd try a different outlet

floral ore
#

It’d be hard because it’s plugged into power strip and rigged to all monitors

stoic island
#

Who knows, maybe the power strip is the issue lol

cyan ravine
cyan ravine
floral ore
#

Nope it does the same in the outlet directly

cyan ravine
#

Hmm

stoic island
#

Is it possible to do it in a different room? In case it's the circuit that does your room that has screwed up power

floral ore
#

Well if that’s the problem I’m screwed anyway

#

It’s my actual room

cyan ravine
#

It would suck

stoic island
cyan ravine
#

But at least you'd know

stoic island
#

But first you should figure out what is wrong

floral ore
#

Will it change anything in nothing is plugged into it?

stoic island
#

?

floral ore
#

Like no monitors keyboards headsets

#

If I go to a different room

cyan ravine
#

Maybe

stoic island
#

Shouldn't matter with booting

cyan ravine
#

If something is shorting? Maybe

stoic island
#

Like USB devices can mess up booting but not having devices plugged in shouldn't change anything

floral ore
#

Does Wi-Fi adapter have any relevance I doubt it but it’s worth asking

cyan ravine
#

Not really

stoic island
#

If it's plugged into a pcie slot, no

#

USB devices always have a chance of being weird

floral ore
#

Ok because my one that came with mobo was DOA so I have a cheap one from Walmart

#

Took hours to realize

#

Dif. Outlet different room took 3 seconds

#

Original out let with only pc no power strip- instantly

#

But it was after it had recently been on @stoic island

stoic island
#

Turn it off and leave it for a few minutes and see what happens then

floral ore
#

Should I plug other stuff into it?

stoic island
#

Now it's more likely PSU issue but just wait for now

stoic island
floral ore
#

When it went instantly?

stoic island
#

The whole time

floral ore
#

It was when it took a long time yes

stoic island
#

Because things plugged in might be another factor

floral ore
#

All plugged into the mobo by usb

stoic island
#

Test one thing at a time ig, leave them unplugged for now, and see if you leave the PC off for say 10min and see how long it takes to turn it back on

floral ore
#

Ok

#

Should I leave power strip in wall with other stuff in it or no?

stoic island
#

Unplug everything, might as well, unless you need something

floral ore
#

Is this common?

cyan ravine
#

No

#

I've never seen this before like this way tbh

#

But a dodgy usb item I could def believe

floral ore
#

How I determine which one

cyan ravine
#

You can plug in each usb one by one and power cycle test with each?

floral ore
#

In or out of power strip

cyan ravine
#

It'll be in the power strip

#

How many usb's were plugged in before?

floral ore
#

It works but I feel it’s because it was so recently on

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If you count the Wi-Fi adapter 4

stoic island
#

Gotta test 1 thing at a time

#

First we're testing if just taking it off the power strip helped, whether it depends on if it's recently on, then we can test 1 USB device at a time

floral ore
#

It’s hard to know whether or not it’s been long enough to prevent the pc from Turing on instantly because it was on

proven salmon
#

Quick question are all Rx 6600 the same? Like does it matter if it’s from Msi or asrock

stoic island
#

Most perform similarly, as long as the cooler isn't trash

proven salmon
#

How can I tell if the cooler is bad or not

stoic island
#

Thin dual fan cards are probably going to be bad

#

Mech oc is trash for example

#

Although probably considering it's just a 6600

proven salmon
#

Alright thanks

rich mason
#

Was trying to avoid asking here, but whatever. Trying to think of a final list of parts for a new computer build, but I have no idea what to choose that will fit well. Are any of you able to help out?

fossil cedar
proven salmon
#

Alright thanks

rich mason
#

In the United States, I guess the budget could be ~$1,000.
Will go over if I have to though.

frank scaffold
#

Anyone know of a reliable way to check the value of my PC?

rich mason
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
frank scaffold
#

@fossil cedar I just don't like using fleabay cause the stuff on there is generally overpriced garbage

fossil cedar
#

theyre usually pretty accurate and best for buying/selling 2nd hand as it offers protection

#

also alternatively you can ask us

austere condor
#

looking to bounce some ideas off of other people, to compare to what im thinking of doing.

$750 budget to upgrade this PC --> https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QKkVPX

usecase:
Livestreaming
Video editing in premier
1440p gaming, mostly modded minecraft with high end shaders

requirements:
mainly focused on getting better FPS in modded minecraft with shaders.
would like to still be able to reuse ram, CPU cooler has to be replaced for LGA 1700
needs more storage, preferably SSD.

fossil cedar
potent portal
#

13500 is just a locked, clocked down 12600k though

#

Same architecture

austere condor
#

this was my thought on it

#

afaik we dont really need a GPU upgrade for the usecase

stoic island
#

Minecraft shaders can be GPU bound

fossil cedar
#

eh 1080 for 1440p isnt great especially with shaders and honestly i 5700x performs pretty well in MC iirc

stoic island
#

And use the rest of that money to find some crazy GPU deal

austere condor
#

cant go KF

#

needs quicksync

fossil cedar
#

ah okay

austere condor
#

gotta get off the GPU encoder

stoic island
#

12600k price isn't as good so maybe 13600k still but you shouldn't need z790

cyan ravine
#

Isn't this a good time for nvenc?

#

Could prolly just stick a turing or ampere in and be done methinks

stoic island
#

Just gotta do b660 w bios flashback, like ds3h

#

Qsv supposed to be really nice for editing

cyan ravine
#

Idk if I'd trust ds3h with an i5K tbh

#

Maybe b660 msi pro or a mid asrock

#

Gaming x ax?

#

Or bazooka

fossil cedar
#

no b660 msi has flashback

austere condor
woven horizon
stoic island
#

Ah thought you were doing commission

#

Bit sad

austere condor
#

helping a youtuber friend out

stoic island
#

Maybe they could wait for b760 and how 13400 or equivalent works out?

cyan ravine
#

Z690 pro rs has flashback for 140 iirc

austere condor
#

potentially

#

but i think a 13600k would be a better long term investment

#

and maybe next year they'll do a GPU upgrade when they have the funds to do a upgrade again

#

to a RTX 4060 or something

cyan ravine
#

Or just, 12400?

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
#

12400 + ds3h would work

stoic island
#

Or 12600k with cheap b660 for now if they can't wait

woven horizon
#

I love the 12100.

stoic island
#

E cores should help for editing

cyan ravine
#

About as high as I would go with ds3h

austere condor
cyan ravine
#

Nahh

#

12400 max

#

Then a good gpu to go with it

austere condor
#

and Nvenc on a GTX 1080 is OLD

#

lol

cyan ravine
#

Bit like pato's list

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
#

Ah

austere condor
#

the vast majority of their time is spent playing minecraft

#

i dont really think a 3060ti makes sense'

fossil cedar
#

shaders can hit the gpu hard tho

cyan ravine
#

3060 Ti and RT MC makes sense to me

fossil cedar
#

nope

#

RT mc is the crap version i.e. bedrock

stoic island
#

Minecraft shaders usually just need raster, it's not true rt

cyan ravine
#

Wait what

fossil cedar
#

ye

cyan ravine
#

It's not even combined with the rest of it?

stoic island
#

Rtx is only bedrock

fossil cedar
#

the one everyone plays is java but the one with rt is bedrock

cyan ravine
#

Ehhh

#

What a joke lmao

rich mason
potent portal
cyan ravine
#

Then yeah I would say AMD then

stoic island
#

Qsv is also really good soo

fossil cedar
rich mason
#

also damn i ain't buying anything from newegg's website directly huehpain

cyan ravine
stoic island
#

Qsv will help for editing and might be good enough for streaming too

cyan ravine
#

I believe it's a mod, 1111 knows

austere condor
#

im trying to play around with the parts list, ive got the budget to potentially allow for a $330 GPU upgrade

#

but i cant see a 6650xt being a worthwhile upgrade over a GTX 1080

cyan ravine
#

330 would get 6700

stoic island
#

Never actually used amd encoder but obs will be able to use it

cyan ravine
#

380 would get 6750xt

#

If you can squeeze a bit more a 6750 would def make sense

austere condor
#

im thinking something like this

#

with the extra budget coming from him selling me his GTX 1080

#

like $125~

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
#

Change the cooler to a cheaper dual tower if you want to use that i5

austere condor
#

you lose out on a lot for content creation with that option though @fossil cedar

cyan ravine
#

I can't remember if PA120 non-SE is still cheap

fossil cedar
#

like what?

stoic island
#

Qsv

fossil cedar
austere condor
#

he streams minecraft, and makes youtube videos about minecraft

#

using premier

potent portal
#

12600k also has more "cores" than 5700x

#

Even counting the e-cores as half a core

stoic island
#

Qsv helps with acceleration and 12600k performs better than 5700x for content creation in general

#

Cooler wise freezer 34 duo is 10$ less if that makes any difference

cyan ravine
potent portal
#

What cooler is on there? A lot of brands will give the bracket free

austere condor
#

AG620 would be the cheaper option

cyan ravine
#

That would add enough for the 6750XT

austere condor
#

over a 34 duo

cyan ravine
austere condor
#

the H100i V2 is not compatible with LGA 1700. corsair doesnt make a LGA 1700 bracket for it @potent portal @cyan ravine

potent portal
#

C*rsair strikes again

austere condor
#

its too old

#

they make them for newer coolers

cyan ravine
#

Ah lol

#

Then yeah the pa120

#

It's very good for lga1700

austere condor
#

they dont have a black pa120 at the same sale

#

big ole white CPU cooler looks weird in a all black build

potent portal
#

One of the rare things where the white tax is reversed

#

Paint it black kekw

austere condor
#

this is revision 2

#

oh shoot

#

the SSD

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

Push for the AMD XT

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
#

Yes

#

Go XT

#

It becomes a genuine upgrade over 1080

#

6750 is only 20 more iirc

austere condor
#

the cooler is not compatible with the 12600k @fossil cedar

#

i just explained that

#

lol

#

h100i v2 is not on the list

fossil cedar
#

i didnt see that yet

#

ugh

cyan ravine
#

Ima have a look

fossil cedar
#

they need wifi @austere condor

cyan ravine
#

Wait did nv2 sell out?

austere condor
#

no

#

yeah, NV2 just sold out

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
#

Le kek

#

That was in the last 5 minutes

stoic island
#

I wish p41 plus price drops further

cyan ravine
#

What's the budget limit here?

#

Oh 875 with gpu nvm

austere condor
#

$750

#

or potentially $125 on top if i want to buy his GTX 1080

#

but that would still be like $100, cause shipping and paypal fee

#

the SP-XD80 is the next best option @fossil cedar @stoic island

fossil cedar
#

id go a60

austere condor
#

naw

#

XD80 is like $5 more

#

for a midrange drive with Dram

stoic island
#

5$ more I'd go for it for the bit better perf

fossil cedar
#

well its 10$ more but sure

cyan ravine
austere condor
#

3400/3000 vs 2200/1600

cyan ravine
#

6$ over

austere condor
#

for $10 more

austere condor
cyan ravine
#

Eh?

#

750 +125?

#

Or 750+100

austere condor
#
  • $100
cyan ravine
#

Oof

#

Well 12400 will work ig

austere condor
#

was thinking $125, but that gets cut down to nearly only $100 cause of shipping and paypal fee

#

naw

#

12600k

fossil cedar
#

888 work?

#

could drop to a60 to save money

#

could also drop to b660 ds3h is needed

cyan ravine
#

Rip the 380 6750 is gone

cyan ravine
#

No idea how good silver soul is but it ticks the principle boxes

fossil cedar
#

ye

#

just realised thats slightly more over than yours

#

hmm

cyan ravine
#

Like if I took anything else out, I would go 12400 at that point

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
#

Ooo a60 so cheap

austere condor
#

ok

#

im trying to find a way to get him more budget

cyan ravine
#

But I wouldn't do ds3h with that 12600k

austere condor
#

cause i can buy the 8700k/board/aio and 1080 from him

fossil cedar
#

sell the cpu board and cooler?

austere condor
#

im thinking that would add an extra $210-$225 to his budget

#

if i offer $250

fossil cedar
#

bringing it to what exactly?

cyan ravine
#

960

rich mason
#

might actually try to pick out my build myself slowly
gonna ask for help making sure it is actually a good build lol

cyan ravine
#

What about this

#

Yes, aware of the bios update

#

If he can pull it off, then he could fit a cpu in that will last many years

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
#

What's 6800 start at?

fossil cedar
#

510 :/

cyan ravine
#

Kekek

fossil cedar
#

can be done but not with 12600k

cyan ravine
#

Yeah

#

Actually

#

Pato

#

We could do am4 with cooler

#

👀

fossil cedar
#

i already offered

#

they said they wanted QSV

cyan ravine
#

Sadge

#

You could easily get nvenc like that tho

fossil cedar
austere condor
#

yeah?

#

i think thats the one

#

though im not keen on recommending a asrock GPU

fossil cedar
#

yeah that looks good

#

asrock make good gpus

cyan ravine
#

Asrock gpus are good

#

It's the boards that are bleh

#

And even then, this coming gen of asrock boards we're hearing better things for once

cyan ravine
#

Sonic sponsorship giving millions for better board /jk

little osprey
#

sonic mobo gives 10000 extra fps

potent portal
#

Gotta go fast

jagged hill
#

hi i realized making a monitor an aio pc was not practical and took too much power

#

i ended up building a cyberdeck instead

echo vale
#

Hello looking to build my 2nd PC only parts I have atm is an AIO and a 3080ti Im looking to build one for new popular game titles (4k) I need it to be able to render beefy sized blender projects for school is there anyone that can help ? 🙂

#

budget is up in the air tbh

vague oracle
#

This was going so well until the proprietary front panel connectors ssadge

#

Welp time to splice together some connectors

#

Took a couple boot loops but ITS GOOD

vague oracle
#

I kinda wish I spent the extra $20 for the dark rock pro 4 just to match the pitch black aesthetic

flint sapphire
vague oracle
#

AK620 mounting was EASY

#

Didn’t even need a manual to figure it out

flint sapphire
#

Right? It’s a dream compared to most

vague oracle
#

Kinda was like, hmm this can go there

flint sapphire
#

If you have semi large hands, and the mobo is already in the case, good luck mounting the dark rock pro 4 PepeRealizes

cyan ravine
#

All that sweet deepcool money going to that sweet cooler

#

Best air cooler no cap

flint sapphire
#

They didn’t have enough for a sick screwdriver PepeHands

cyan ravine
#

Just get a noctua one

vague oracle
#

I kinda want my 3080 in this build, not a huge fan of the 2080 super

cyan ravine
#

Kekw

vague oracle
#

Just looks wise, not talking performance here

cyan ravine
#

Any green text I hate

vague oracle
#

And it lights up green ssadge

flint sapphire
#

Imo the dark rock is the best looking tower cooler

cyan ravine
#

My old waterblocks had green lit up nvidia text

#

Yeah I hate that

#

Just, don't force the logos nvidia

#

It's garbo

vague oracle
#

…what’s the chance of a 650w PSU handling a 3080 12gb?

cyan ravine
#

Cpu?

vague oracle
#

A tier 650w*

#

10700k

cyan ravine
#

Eh no

flint sapphire
#

Undervolt it heavily

cyan ravine
#

Can but no, wouldn't

vague oracle
#

Damn guess I’ll need to redo cable management then

flint sapphire
vague oracle
#

I have an HX750 that will work but it’s in a different PC

#

Or maybe I just go the kraken G12 route

cyan ravine
#

Hx750 is perfect

#

Nah wiring the psu will take as long as the g12 thing

#

I think we are repeating ourselves lol

vague oracle
#

I feel like we are lol

#

Kraken G12 is also kinda ugly

cyan ravine
#

It is cringe

#

But it allows possibilities

#

Or you could get an eiswolf if they have one

#

(deja vu deja vu deja vu)

vague oracle
#

$250 ssadge

cyan ravine
#

Best solution tho

#

No cap

vague oracle
#

Guess I can always just disconnect the LEDs

cyan ravine
#

TRUE

#

AGREEE

flint sapphire
#

Just do a complete custom Optimus water cooling loop if you’re gunna spend 250+ pepehmmm

#

Wait

flint sapphire
vague oracle
#

What’s the chance of a 3000cl16-16-16 being B-die?

#

There’s a b die checker?

#

Can you send the link?

fossil cedar
frigid night
# vague oracle There’s a b die checker?

Most of this site is in german, but if you know what Yes and No are then you can easily figure it out. This is what I use to see what is B-die.

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/threads/die-ultimative-hardwareluxx-samsung-8gb-b-die-liste-alle-hersteller-24-10-22.1161530/#lstH.Z

fossil cedar
#

Well any chromium based browser should detect that it's German and ask if you wanna translate

frigid night
fossil cedar
#

Really?

frigid night
#

yep

fossil cedar
#

That's weird I've never had a translator extension

frigid night
#

Huh, nvm after I accepted cookies it actually translated.

#

Although it isn't translating "Ja" right.. It's saying it's "and" when "Ja" is "yes"

vague oracle
#

It doesn’t have an option for 3000mHz

frigid night
#

actually what is the model #?

vague oracle
#

Adata

#

Let me check

stoic island
#

Adata doesn't have nice identification for die afaik

vague oracle
#

It’s AX4U3000W4G16

frigid night
stoic island
#

But 3000c16 has extremely slim chances of being b die, and if it is b die, it's terrible b die that wouldn't clock well

fossil cedar
#

Nvm wrong model

#

What size is the kit

#

Not yet just wanted to search easier

frigid night
#

So it's Needle Spectrix?

vague oracle
fossil cedar
#

Not b die

#

Or at least not documented on the list

#

@vague oracle try see what typhoon burner guesses

stoic island
#

Typhoon is going to say no

#

Because typhoon only guesses

#

And the only reasonable guess for 3000c16 is not b die

fossil cedar
#

Yeah but at least typhoon will tell manufacturer

stoic island
#

Not accurately afaik

vague oracle
#

I need to install them first for typhoon

fossil cedar
#

It's only guessed manufacturer right as far as i seen, just hardly guesses the die right

vague oracle
#

It’s Hynix die, not sure what it is

fossil cedar
#

Ah well then

vague oracle
#

I slightly pulled back the heat sink on it and saw the SK Hynix on the die

fossil cedar
#

B die is samsung

vague oracle
#

Yeah I know

stoic island
#

It's probably like mfr lol

fossil cedar
#

It could still clock high possibly

#

Especially since it sounds like an old kit

#

Might be decent die

vague oracle
#

I got it back when the RX480 came out

stoic island
#

Good chance it's 4gbit mfr that doesn't do over like 3400

vague oracle
#

At least I actually have a decent ram OC platform now I think

#

10700k on a Z590 Aorus master should be good for ram OC right?