building-and-recc-chat

[warm estuary]

why?

for selling it later?

[earnest olive]

so people helping you can see what you already have

lol

[warm estuary]

ah i forgor 💀

[earnest olive]

prices also change a lot

so a ram kit that makes sense to buy today might be a terrible buy tomorrow

[warm estuary]

at this point i don’t know what’s ordered and what’s not

cheaper things like the ssd i asked for for christmas

[earnest olive]

just check your order history

[warm estuary]

cheaper

ty btw

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f4tN78

just an example

this build I'm doing would have a much different price if I didn't set manual

[warm estuary]

how did you manage to find a 3070 for 250

i get it’s only 8gb but still

i see ty

i could barely find a 970 for that price a few months ago

[fossil cedar]

uh what country are you in?

and how long is a few months? like 8 ?

[warm estuary]

us

i guess it has been a while lol

[fossil cedar]

youre not looking in the right places then lol

[earnest olive]

I wish it was 250

284 still good though

[fossil cedar]

even 1070s could be gotten for 200 in the us like a year ago

[warm estuary]

would getting a 5 pack of p12s be ok? cheapest i found

about 35 for 5 fans sounds good but i don’t know how good they are

[earnest olive]

that works

they are good fans

[warm estuary]

alright thanks

[fossil cedar]

id do this instead https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yLkzxs

[earnest olive]

no

this isn't true

[warm estuary]

i probably should have mentioned pretty much everything except the cpu cooler has probably already been paid for

[fossil cedar]

werent they?

250 at least no

i swore they where

[earnest olive]

I sold a 1070 for 325 on december 4 2021

lol

just checked my records

[fossil cedar]

would still get an ak620,, ak400 isnt a good enough cooler for the 13600k

oh wow

[earnest olive]

market price was around 300 at the time

[warm estuary]

sounds good

[earnest olive]

honestly I bet the ak400 would do alright in gaming

but still worth getting something nicer

[warm estuary]

i plan on mostly video editing 💀

it’d definitely be worth it

[earnest olive]

then yes absolutely

what software?

[warm estuary]

im broke so kdenlive

[earnest olive]

depending on what software you might be better off with a weaker nvidia card

[warm estuary]

it’s open source

i was thinking of getting davinci resolve but i haven’t looked into it

[earnest olive]

never heard of kdenlive

just check if your workload supports GPU acceleration and makes use of cuda

[warm estuary]

i also plan on doing gaming videos so id probably need the gaming performance still

[warm estuary]

it’s actually really capable

[analog hearth]

I’ve haven’t heard many bad things about Davinci

[earnest olive]

6900xt barely manages to tie with 3060ti in premiere pro for example

and gets rekt by older gen 2080ti

radeon still has pretty poor prosumer/pro support

[analog hearth]

wait genuine question. since when we’re GPUs preferable over CPUs for video editing?

[earnest olive]

it depends on the software

premiere pro has been leveraging gpus for a long time

[warm estuary]

i think i’d like the performance, cause i still do a fair amount of gaming and i’d like to have nice footage for games

i don’t plan on using premiere pro lmao

[earnest olive]

I'm just using it as an example

[warm estuary]

i don’t like adobe

fair

[earnest olive]

to say you should check how your software interacts with gpu

[warm estuary]

yeah

if i were to end up getting a different software it’d probably be resolve

but i’m content with kdenlive for now

[analog hearth]

TIL that AMF is a thing (idk much about it but now I know it’s a thing)

[weary galleon]

Adoption has been growing for a while

[weary galleon]

I don't do much heavy editing but Resolve is awesome

[warm estuary]

cool

kdenlive slows to a crawl whenever you have a longer project or have too many effects on a clip

[analog hearth]

it’s basically a genuine video editing software that’s free

[warm estuary]

yeah

[analog hearth]

that’s why I love it

[earnest olive]

nvidia does even better in resolve

[warm estuary]

i don’t know what features are missing in resolve free ver

[analog pulsar]

No I canceled

[earnest olive]

6900xt barely ties 3060

[analog hearth]

I think some but it’s not THAT big of a deal

I think it’s just some advanced features like upscale-editing and some other stuff

[analog hearth]

ye but that gaming performance though

[earnest olive]

oof

6800xt is like 2060 super tier

I can't find info on 67x0

I'd probably choose 3060ti over 6750xt here

or used 3070

I can't find any comparisons at all for kdenlive

[weary galleon]

Mostly professional level stuff iirc. If you do it as a hobby / run a YouTube channel the free version should be more than enough

And if you do end up needing the paid version it's a $300 one time purchase

Gets you a lifetime license

[leaden mauve]

da vinky?

[analog pulsar]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-with-8gb-memory-has-been-tested-17-performance-difference-vs-12gb-model

[brisk knoll]

for a ryzen 5 7600x cpu and 6800xt gpu, what would be the best wattage psu?

I'm building my first pc :)

[empty pollen]

750w

[analog pulsar]

@empty pollen how much power for 13600k and 4090

Lols

[low path]

im trying to hepl my nephew with his pc and his wifi on his pc is really bad but when he goes to his phone the sped is better and faster he isnt hardwired either he is able to play without a cable but its showing slow speeds..? any advice

his mobo is B450M/AC

Yea hes doing that rn

Yea i think xD so far it is

just having disk ussues atm

look at my disk thing

so he just installed the wiresless lan drivers for intel and it still isnt the same

xD

ya gave him tha t

im trying to figure out my laggy issue in fortnite rn

Might be my HDD

bc my fortnite is on the HDD and not my ssd

[desert gulch]

Dx12 or dx11?

[low path]

12

[desert gulch]

Would try 11

12 just really isn't great yet and can cause the stutters

[low path]

I tried 11 but for my card 12 is better

i got the 6900xt

ac

first one

pretty far

[upper ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Nazarick22/saved/#view=TyyJnQ My new pc build everything has been bought and just waiting on 3 parts to get delivered. I cant wait to build it and be done with my dying pc! Lol 😅

[mossy venture]

you have the list privated

[upper ore]

Can you check again? Just updated it

[mossy venture]

its fixed

[woven horizon]

Just picked it up. Looks brand new. Paid $500

[fossil cedar]

Damm -0.1c to do the build xD

[upper ore]

Damm right! Got homies in high places 😂

[weary galleon]

actually a 3090 or a different gpu in 3090 box?

[woven horizon]

Actual 3090

[weary galleon]

for 500

dang

[woven horizon]

Yes

The guy wrecked his car so he had to sell fast.

[weary galleon]

"need to sell fast" = high chance it's stolen

[woven horizon]

I have the invoice. It’s his name and address on it.

[weary galleon]

oh nice

[woven horizon]

Gonna slap her on my rig and sell my ftw3 3070ti

[low path]

this the newest one

[next dock]

is the intel 670p good

[woven horizon]

Sequential Read: Up to 3,500 MB/s Sequential Write: Up to 2,700 MB/ Random 4KB Reads: Up to 310K IOPS Random 4KB Writes: Up to 340K IOPS

[next dock]

I mean quality wise

sorry

The performance seems satisfactory but is it cheaply made/has known qc issues

[woven horizon]

I have a 665p in my wifes machine and we have no issues with it.

[low path]

so i got a ssd and a hHard drive western bluwe

[woven horizon]

How that compares to the 670 I cant tell you, But they all have warranty for a reason.

[low path]

Should is sell teh hdd and just get another ssd

[woven horizon]

What games are you playing? You might not necessarily need it. What size HDD?

[next dock]

Ok, thanks

[low path]

fps games, warzone cod rainbow valorant fortnite battlefield

[leaden mauve]

battlefield 1 perhaps?

[low path]

2042

[leaden mauve]

out of all the battlefield games you only play 2042?

[low path]

yur

nah i played V

[leaden mauve]

🗿

play one of the good battlefields

[low path]

💀

[low path]

this is my case, are those 3 fans exhaust fans? or intake

[cyan ravine]

Intake

[low path]

How do yk?

so its taking cold air in then?

but when i put my hand next to the fans from the outside feels blowig cold air out

Ok so i need to buy 3 more fans what should those 3 fans be? intake or exhuast

[cyan ravine]

Experience and I also know pc fan standards

[earnest olive]

fans blow air from the blades side towards the motor side

[low path]

oo ok

i have 1 fan ontop which i think is intake aswell

[cyan ravine]

This is turbulence, fan flow isn't perfect

[earnest olive]

just do this

don't bother with top fans

get that positive pressure

[low path]

illl only have 4 fans then

[earnest olive]

move your top fan to be rear exhaust

[cyan ravine]

P360A works really well in that layout

[earnest olive]

yeah?

[cyan ravine]

Yes you'll only have 4

[earnest olive]

you don't need to fill out the fan slots

[low path]

ohh

[cyan ravine]

You only need 4

[low path]

bet ill move that top of to the side then

[cyan ravine]

More fans≠more better

[earnest olive]

you'll probably even have worse performance if you fill them all

[low path]

as exhaust? for that fan i on teh rear

[earnest olive]

cause air pressure is gonna get weird

yes

3 intake 1 exhaust is good

just have it in the same direction as the front fans

but since it's on the other side of the case, it's blowing air out of the case instead of in

[low path]

So like this but in the case

[earnest olive]

other way

[low path]

Here r the 3 fans

That came with tower

[earnest olive]

like this

different case but same idea

[low path]

oo okay so this but facing towards my gpu

[earnest olive]

just copy the picture i sent

[low path]

yea

But inside the case

[earnest olive]

yes

[low path]

welp u saved me 150$ xD was about to buy some more fans

ty

[earnest olive]

feel free to donate me $150

[low path]

LOL

[next dock]

that moment when throttlestop doesnt support 5800hs 🫠

[analog pulsar]

Would it be to put one fan inside and outside haha

[earnest olive]

throttlestop is intel only, not sure what you expected

[earnest olive]

what?

[analog pulsar]

Like in back one in and out haha sorry idk what I'm thinking

[earnest olive]

pointless

only reason to do that is when it's on a radiator

[analog pulsar]

Yea

[paper summit]

i can second this

i swapped my aio to the front and the stock fans to the top cause of how lil air the stock ones move compared to my ls720

[analog pulsar]

oh crap

how big are 4090s

5 inches

Okay good my pc is 7 inches

[covert vapor]

More fans obviously better stares at 8 fans sounding like a jet engine

[analog pulsar]

Yes more fans better

MORE RGB

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

[covert vapor]

I've got 8 fans in my lancool II mesh. Arctic P12s and P14s

It actually is pretty quiet ngl

[analog pulsar]

Yes more

That reminds me I need to buy 4 fans

[low path]

wait soo should i get more fans

or

[low path]

^

[analog pulsar]

Do you need more lol

[low path]

i have 4 in my case

[covert vapor]

Only get more fans if you need them

[earnest olive]

it's not necessary

[low path]

not including ym cpu fans/gpu fans bc yea xD

[covert vapor]

4 is fine

Don't need more

[analog pulsar]

Well depends on case layput

[earnest olive]

kenzie it's fine

3 intake 1 exhaust is optimal for his case

[analog pulsar]

Idk there case I'm just saying

[desert gulch]

*they're

/s

[earnest olive]

more case fans is never really necessary anyways, at best they help some

[covert vapor]

Th'e'yr'e

[earnest olive]

speaking as someone with 12 case fans

[analog pulsar]

RGB

[covert vapor]

Mmm, are they quiet ones or do they jet engine at high rpm

[analog pulsar]

@earnest olive I have question if I have pull/push configuration does that count as just 3 intake fans

[earnest olive]

no

[analog pulsar]

My case fans that came with my case only do 1000RPM lol

[vague oracle]

@covert vapor so how did you break the 5900x

[earnest olive]

it's hard to say how much they count compared to unobstructed fans

[desert gulch]

Second amendment right

[covert vapor]

I wish

[earnest olive]

you can probably just treat it like 3 intake for case pressure purposes but it won't be exactly 3

[analog pulsar]

Yea that's what I mean

[earnest olive]

alright I am studying no more pings please

[analog pulsar]

ayo

[desert gulch]

@ sipsbleachseductively

[analog pulsar]

Who needs studying that's boring

Just wing everything

[desert gulch]

Y'know what else is boring?

Tm5

[analog pulsar]

Lol

[covert vapor]

Was putting cpu in at odd angle because I refused to clear off my desk to put the case down properly as I was on my lunch break, that caught a couple of the pins on the edge of the socket and when I was straightening them out one of the pins snapped

[desert gulch]

And it was one of the needed pins?

[covert vapor]

Yus

[desert gulch]

Damn

[analog pulsar]

Omg

[covert vapor]

I think it was a one of the ram pins, doesn't recognize the ram when socketed

[desert gulch]

In any slot?

[covert vapor]

Nope

First thing I tried

[desert gulch]

Damn, hopefully the retailer will be half decent people and fix it

[analog pulsar]

i have question if you top mount this on case is that bad

hmm is this website sus

[desert gulch]

💀

[analog pulsar]

[covert vapor]

Nah, I got it on ebay from a third party new, isn't an official retailer

[desert gulch]

I can 99% bet that site will take your card details

[analog pulsar]

[covert vapor]

Pog Imma buy 50, should be in tech deals smh

[desert gulch]

Damn

Idk man the shipping really kills that deal

[covert vapor]

Bet they combine shipping

[woven horizon]

@fringe iris that Hyte case is dope.

[fringe iris]

Haha very much appreciated! Just switched from 4000d airflow.. i really liked the look of the hyte

[analog pulsar]

@cyan ravine just an FYI my ram might have been broken since i got it

[cyan ravine]

Cool

[analog pulsar]

i remeber getting this error on my old i3 before i got the 13600k

[cyan ravine]

"old"

You had it for like a couple months lol

[analog pulsar]

yea stuff that i dont use anymore i call it old

What

[next dock]

Does opening a laptop void the warranty

The speaker cable seems to be loose but I am not sure if opening the bottom will void the included warranty

Kind of disappointed that I already have to ask this and it's only day one with the laptop 😐

[potent portal]

Depends on the brand and model

[next dock]

I see

Ill just have a chat with customer service then, thanks for the reply

[runic flare]

Whats this mean? Not enough power being supplied?

Monitors randomly turned off and this lit up

Didn't change a thing, was just watching YouTube

[cyan ravine]

I know exactly what this is

@runic flare check the power cable is plugged in properly on both the psu and gpu sides, the one with the red light

Red light means no power/faulty power

You will need to turn off the pc

Like, switch off at the psu, kind of off

Once you've made sure of that, turn the psu back on

Light still there? Try a different cable and plug on the psu

[runic flare]

It's a semimodular PCU, only connection is the one in the photo

[cyan ravine]

Le oof

[runic flare]

I reconnected that, it works, but does that mean it can just randomly lose contact without me touching anything?

[cyan ravine]

Did replugging the gpu end help?

[runic flare]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

It's....sus

What psu and which tuf gpu

And which cpu you paired with it

[runic flare]

EVGA 700GQ, 3070 OC, i9 10850k

Thank you btw

[cyan ravine]

Not the best choice psu but if it's been working then ok not really worried

At some point I would suggest looking into a different psu tho

GQ 700 is a bit of a low end unit, quality wise

[runic flare]

What would you recommend?

[cyan ravine]

That's really a time and place thing

Because sales come and go

If I were to suggest one now? Let's see...

Give me a couple minutes

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MPQcCJ/phanteks-amp-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p850g
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4vhmP6/super-flower-leadex-iii-argb-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-750f14rg
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SL9NFVS?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

1 of these 3

But in any time from a couple hours to a week I would be picking something else

Because there will be better sales

[runic flare]

Got you, thanks

[wintry crow]

is it normal for gpu to be really hot to the touch

like boiling

phew.

was just wondeirng why Valorant kept crashing. thought it mightve been gpu overheating

kk

nmy cpu is alwasy hovering around 30-40c

rx 6800 XT

how do i see temps

Should I run a game?

It's making like a screeching sound when games on

50-60

It's screaming to me

Idk

Gpu got spots getting up to 76c

I had 70c temperature

Okie

keep in mind my glass side pannels off lol

afterburner works with asus board?

Weird thing is gpu never screeched until now lol

After burners open, now what

No idea what to adjust lol

I put 3rd dot to 70

I can actually hear the gpu fans now

They've been silent this whole time.

I think they're actually working now lol.

I think they were at like 5% speed or something 💀
Cause I actually feel air coming from them now.

Hopefully game doesn't crash now. I'll go test.

Any way to stop it from screaming at me tho?

How come the GPU makes a different noise when I move my mouse 💀

Why is the GPU making a different noise every time move the mouse or hover over an option in game lmao

[cyan ravine]

Ooooomg

Is that coil whine???

[wintry crow]

I have no idea

When I move my mouse the noise changes too

It's like moving my mouse affects it.

[cyan ravine]

That sounds like coil whine

And pretty severe too

[wintry crow]

Could it be be cause I don't have 3 distenct GPU cables attached?

[cyan ravine]

Uhhh

I'd say probably not

Changing psus can affect it tho

[wintry crow]

I'm using 2 cables ,and the 3rd sot is from the first cable

[cyan ravine]

As I found out, psus use a putty like resin to fix coil whine

[wintry crow]

So technically only using 2 cables for 3 slots

It didn't come with 3 : 💀

750

[tawny fiber]

Looks to be a rm750 no x

[wintry crow]

2 gpu cables, 2 pcie cables.

Temps hovering around 61-64 GPU ATM.

[tawny fiber]

Is it whiny at idle desktops?

[wintry crow]

Yes

Wait no

Only when games open

But when I play the game it calms down

If I idle In Game it whines loud.

[tawny fiber]

What's your fps at?

[wintry crow]

Link?

Max

[tawny fiber]

It's a normal thing to happen if you are getting like a thousand fps

[tawny fiber]

That's not a fps number

[wintry crow]

Price doesnt matter.

If it fixed GPU issues.

I knew amd was a bad choice LOL

The GPU on fire memes weren't a joke.

[tawny fiber]

Yeah I also get coil whine during agent selection in valorant where the fps jumps to a thousand

[wintry crow]

Just limited fps on all options

Noise stopped

[tawny fiber]

Did you get the whine during match aswell ?

[wintry crow]

No

[tawny fiber]

If you can just limit it in the menus

[wintry crow]

I limited all fps

[tawny fiber]

Play uncapped during the match

[wintry crow]

Seems like it's fixed everything

Maybe the game was crashing mid game cause of fps overload

Temps also dropped by 20c when I limited fps

🤓

[tawny fiber]

[wintry crow]

Who knew you could crash a game because your system is TOO powerful. Tmyk

Yup going in match to test rn

Temps dropped from 60c to 40c though, pretty sure it was just fps fking me over.

True, always heard that was a good thing

I just skipped it cause why not

[tawny fiber]

https://youtu.be/N8ZUqT6Tfiw

Will help if you play somewhat competitively

[wintry crow]

41c won't go higher, 144 fps doesn't dip, no crash, no noise

😎

i think if i didnt have fan curve and temps kept getting to 71c+ i wouldnt have a pc in a month 💀 ty dr.

[obsidian wigeon]

Also Imma have to say something here

The psu setup is honestly fine since it can safely provide 375W of power, but of course it's best practice to buy extra cable to actually correctly use 3 connectors

Coil whine really has nothing to do with daisy chaining cables since the gpu clearly has plenty of power available

[analog pulsar]

sheeeesh only 6%

[empty pollen]

yeah on gaming

on any other application the x3d is destroyed even for 12th gen

[analog pulsar]

Yea

[cyan ravine]

Note: 1080p

[empty pollen]

higher res should be tied right?

[cyan ravine]

It gets closer

Harder to sift apart those differences

[fossil cedar]

would not use tpu as a good source for comparisons like that, they will use completely different ram and cooler configs and then compare cpus ignoring that

also cpu benchmark but no csgo reee

[shut rampart]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KNKZKp can I upgrade my pc part without the psu? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qhCH27 ( my pc )

[mossy venture]

wouldn't recommend it

but psu prices really do suck a lot right now

[shut rampart]

Well I already got one shipped but it says 15 days…

[fossil cedar]

would do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xDrLxs

just realised you already ordered psu thats fine too

[shut rampart]

I will just buy that in person not waiting 15 days to get my psu on amazon ...

and I already got all of my other parts in that list just the psu

[fossil cedar]

ah okay

[shut rampart]

Can someone help me with ddu? Do I go to driver uninstall and press this?

[tawny fiber]

You start getting gpu limited then it's hardly a cpu test anymore

I would like some 720p tests for sure

99% gpu usage no wonder the cpus are pretty much doing nothing

That's how you drag race cpus linus

Finally someone said it

[frigid night]

No.

!ddu

[still roost]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[frigid night]

@shut rampart Follow the instructions in the link above. You MUST follow them 100%.

[fossil cedar]

thats not ddu btw

[shut rampart]

oh I see now

Alright I have clicked all of the boxes and waiting for it to be remove thanks!

[shut rampart]

How do I remove this out it’s soo hard, feel like if I rip it out it’s going to rip the montherbord

[fossil cedar]

its very hard deff the worst connector

[shut rampart]

So just try to pull it out?

Same goes with this one

[fossil cedar]

Yeah you can try push down the tab thing but it's pretty hard

I've never had problems with that connector tbh

[shut rampart]

Nvm I just pull it out as hard as I can

For that

Now the hard part

Yay I got it off

[analog pulsar]

@fossil cedar is there a way to bend the usb 3 thing without breaking it

[shut rampart]

Everything unplug right?

[earnest olive]

for future reference, use one hand to hold down the motherboard around the 24pin and use the other hand to pull the connector out

helps mitigate the motherboard flexing

[fossil cedar]

🤷‍♂️

[shut rampart]

Will this work?

To clean thermal paste

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it should

Just be careful as it won't dry as quick as 90%

[analog pulsar]

https://us.mcsvc.samsung.com/bp/0vMpROaaRW2QxKuds1xUcA/tips.preview.oneui50.phone/0?cc2=gc&sf=eyAiZmlsdGVycyI6WyB7ICJlbnRyeU5hbWUiOiJjb250ZW50SWQiLCAidmFsdWVzIjpbIkRFQ0FfMDAwMyJdIH0gXSB9&rtv=shareYn%3DY&lang=en-US&salescd=TMB

My phone just updated

[little osprey]

cool

[analog pulsar]

Omg

[woven horizon]

Rookie numbers

[analog pulsar]

Bruh

Oops

This is build chat

This is not general

[empty pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/blind-spongebob-blinded-myeyes-sizzle-gif-4697428

[maiden gulch]

Erm, embarrassing to admit but i fell asleep with a beer in my hand and fried the mobo and probably the PSU on my 10400/3060Ti rig that i built about 1.5 years ago. i'm using an amd MOBO and a 8350 i borrowed that i can confirm my SSD and 3060Ti are fine on.

can anyone recommend a good mobo/cpu combo that can future proof me for the next gen gpus? i've been looking at r7s and raptor lakes just would rather get a good setup than slap something together

need a new MOBO, but rather just upgrade it all. so i want a new MOBO, CPU, RAM and PSU, i'd like to keep it under 1,0000

1,000 usd*

[mossy venture]

what cooler do you have?

and do you need wifi built into the mobo

Could just do something like this, 13700k is maybe 2% better, imo not worth the money (if you're just gaming. If you do workstation tasks that are multi threaded, could spend the extra for it) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qLWwnt

[analog pulsar]

What did I need again a contact frame? @empty pollen

[maiden gulch]

the 13700 is only 2% better than the 10400?

oh my bad i read that wrong, sorry. thank you

[shut rampart]

Trying to install ak620 but it’s so hard to put in the screw

[empty pollen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYU1OskbY-Q

[analog pulsar]

I'm on it

Lol

[empty pollen]

next week will arrive my 13600kf along with my contact frame

ill do the cooling setting just once

[honest timber]

I was planning on buying the 6950xt for $800. But now I might just wait for the 7000 series, will they be around the same price? Cause I’m nearing my budget?

[empty pollen]

xtx is planned to be at 1k

msrp on the reference model, aibs probably will cost more

[honest timber]

What about the xt?

[analog pulsar]

So I buy this @empty pollen

They have thermal grizzly version on video too

Also it seems scary they talking about unstablity and unstable memory clocks

Why couldn't Intel but give good pressure

@elfin flame btw i forgot to add yesterday 4080 at least only uses 3x8pin not 8x4 pins but i can just upgrade power supply anyway bc my current one i lost some cables that are suppose to go with it

daisy chain

[shut rampart]

Is this right

Is it find if I do this

Or should I just replace the fans

On the other way

[empty pollen]

yeah buy the thermal;right

the thermal grizzly is a bit more complicated to use (and more expensive) for the same results

[empty pollen]

this happen when you overtight the cooler to the cpu

or the contact fram, you should be careful to not overtight

[analog pulsar]

Okay

[frigid night]

No data limit on your hotspot?

[toxic widget]

Hey! Could anyone help me. So I’m getting a new motherboard to replace my old MB my plans are to do a new windows install on my ssd but it has windows installed on it already how do I go with fully removing the files before plugging it in and using a usb to install windows. I’m new to this stuff so I’m sorry if this is a stupid question

[low path]

whats a good gpu sag bracket on newegg

wait actually legos xD

i dotn feel like them getting melted

[leaden mauve]

they would definitely not melt

[cyan ravine]

Actually legos

[low path]

oh yea definitely not

[cyan ravine]

And they're good

[low path]

nah dont wanna use legos

[cyan ravine]

It's actually quite common

[leaden mauve]

commoner

[cyan ravine]

[earnest olive]

i think a lot of people just assume that the air in their case is anywhere near the same temp as their cpu or gpu

[cyan ravine]

"Lemme just boil some water rq..." * opens pc case and puts a glass in *

[leaden mauve]

I like to boil my water with a certain 10 core x99 cpu

[analog pulsar]

Bc it is

[tawny fiber]

[shut rampart]

Is this cpu

[fast dust]

the mobo that i'm getting has 2 usb 3.2 gen 1 headers while the case im gonna get has 2 usb 3.0 and 1 usb 3.2 gen 2 (type c)

what do i doooooooooo

[weary galleon]

Keep in mind the motherboard will have usb3 on the rear IO

not sure about the usbc 3.2 gen 2, I think you can probably run it at 3.2 gen 1 speeds if you need USB C

[analog pulsar]

@cyan ravine where the heck do im find SN on my ram

[cyan ravine]

On the back

[analog pulsar]

I'll dm you

[fast dust]

yeah, it does. but is there a way to link the front i/o to the back???????? sorry for bothering

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Can also be bios borked

[weary galleon]

I don't think so? not sure exactly what you mean.

[cyan ravine]

Only case I know that can do that is the o11 evo

You can move the front io around

[cyan ravine]

Does it have a type c header on the board

[fast dust]

just 3.2 gen 1

but the case has a 3.2 gen 2 type c

[cyan ravine]

Then it'll run gen 1

[fast dust]

o

[cyan ravine]

Usb is cross compatible

[fast dust]

oh

[cyan ravine]

All good? Lol

[fast dust]

so what do i do with the 3.0s

should i just leave them dangling

[cyan ravine]

No

You can get an internal usb hub and run them off that

[shut rampart]

well last time I check it was 6/22 is that fine?

[fast dust]

my motherboard only has 3.2 headers tho

so that's what i'm wondering

[cyan ravine]

Then get a adapter for internal usb c to usb 3.2 gen 1

[fast dust]

mk

ty

[cyan ravine]

Can you send the board and case pls

This is trying to put bandaids on something that probably doesn't need it

[fast dust]

rog strix b550-a and a hyte y60

[cyan ravine]

I mean if that's how long ago it was, then unlikely borked bios

[shut rampart]

sadge

idk whats the fix, it turn on, I login everything was fine then it just gave me a cpu error

[cyan ravine]

Try clear cmos

[cyan ravine]

Type C won't run at all

[fast dust]

eesh

[analog pulsar]

[fast dust]

ig i gotta find a different motherboard

goodbyeeeeee

[cyan ravine]

X570s aero g would work

Again, really gross for am4 price

[fast dust]

fr

[cyan ravine]

I would go 12th gen or 13th gen instead unless this was a 5800x3d

[fast dust]

alr

thank you for your time and help

[cyan ravine]

[shut rampart]

no work sadge

[analog pulsar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cTPN78 this is what im working towards

[potent portal]

I didn't think they'd do 7900X3D because of the core layout, and below that would be the 7800X3D (not 7700). It is nice they'll be offering cheaper options. We already know you still get most of the performance at those eco modes.

[vapid igloo]

Can someone make me a top of the line pc part picker list for 3D printing and coding?

[potent portal]

Using what programs?

And what budget?

[vapid igloo]

Probably Blender and maybe like $5k

[potent portal]

Ok the 7950X does beat the 13900k in Blender so we'll go with that

[cyan ravine]

Is it good value tho

B650 it

[potent portal]

Considering it also uses less power it is in the long run

And yeah B650

[cyan ravine]

True that

Unless he needs io but even then dual io chipsets suffering

At least they were a month ago

[potent portal]

Yeah I don't see a need for dual GPU or extra 5.0 M.2 slots any time soon

The trick right now is finding kits with expo profiles that don't suck

2x32gb kits specifically

[cyan ravine]

Does it need expo??

Just get hynix 5600 c32

2x32

[potent portal]

For optimal performance yes, expo tunes subtimings and tertiaries too

[cyan ravine]

Oh does it? Neat

[potent portal]

Yep no more piggy backing off intel's XMP, they have dedicated profiles now that are AMD optimized

There we go this one has expo https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb/p/N82E16820374441

[cyan ravine]

That sounds awesome

They killed off 1usmus dram calculator too in the process

[potent portal]

That died with 3000 series tbh

[cyan ravine]

It was dead to begin with

But funny thought

[potent portal]

Doomed from the start using paid software without a license

[potent portal]

Here's what I came up with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hyTR8r

You won't need more than a 3090 for this, blender and programming use the CPU primarily so the 3090 is really just because you can. Not like you can find a 4090 right now anyway.

[fossil cedar]

I'd do a couple little tweaks
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3qhJXy

[cyan ravine]

G500A

[modest sedge]

whats a 1440p 32" moniter for under $250

thats for games

[mossy venture]

x27q or g27q

[modest sedge]

i would rather 32" or else there is no point of upgrading im only buying abother moniter so it is bigger

[empty pollen]

to me you will sacrifice a lot of features just by going big

32 is like 4k territory (again for me)

[modest sedge]

i mostly play racing games i like big

[empty pollen]

what about a link safi? xD

[modest sedge]

WHAT TYSM

[tawny fiber]

https://www.newegg.com/p/15Z-0038-000T1?Description=1440p 144hz monitor 32 inch&cm_re=1440p_144hz monitor 32 inch-_-15Z-0038-000T1-_-Product

[modest sedge]

tysm man

[shut rampart]

Going to add another fan up top will this airflow work?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah although honestly I'd just move the fan in the front top to the front back instead, also would swap the fan on the back of the cooler to the front above the ram

[weary galleon]

3 front intake, 1 rear exhaust is good

Positive pressure will push hot air out the top with no need for more fans

[shut rampart]

I would do that but the case is too tight…

And my fat hand won’t fit

[weary galleon]

Gotta move the CPU cooler fans

[shut rampart]

I would have to take it off and re put it

[weary galleon]

Not sure why they're like that anyways

[shut rampart]

Hands are bleeding because of the tight space

[fossil cedar]

plus the fan you have there is doing nothing but removing cold air so

[shut rampart]

I will try to remove the cpu cooler fans to face where the rams are

And have one rear exhaust

And have two top fans?

[weary galleon]

With your case and cpu cooler there's not much point to fans on the top

[fossil cedar]

id leave it the way it is but just the exhaust out the back and one fan exhausting at the top but more towards the back of the case

[shut rampart]

More towards the cpu pins?

[fossil cedar]

like that

[shut rampart]

Ok

[weary galleon]

And move cooler fan to the front

Make sure they're blowing air towards back of case

[shut rampart]

Can’t do that clips are too hard to remove

Nvm I remove them

Cpu cooler

[weary galleon]

Can handle cpus with a higher power draw

Or just be quieter than a smaller cooler

[fossil cedar]

normal size for high end air cooler

[shut rampart]

Like this?

[weary galleon]

Yeah

Can probably rotate it if you don't wanna see the cable but that's just asthetics

[fiery sable]

What would be the best budget build under $1000

[shut rampart]

Good?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah looks better

[fossil cedar]

You in the us?

Also gaming?

[shut rampart]

What is this do?

[fiery sable]

I am, but the person I’m getting the list for is in the uk, also yes it’s for gaming

[fossil cedar]

So 1000£?

Or?

[fiery sable]

I guess

[fossil cedar]

Can you ask them?

[fiery sable]

Sure

I believe that’s correct

I asked but I haven’t gotten a response so let’s go with £1000

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[mossy venture]

I think can fit 5600 and 6800xt with UK pricing

Don't quote me on that

Nv2 cheap rn, deepcool ck560 I believe is cheap

[fossil cedar]

Do they need wifi?

[mossy venture]

One of the 560 variants is cheap

[fiery sable]

I’d say yes to make it easier on them

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[mossy venture]

What I came up with, sure patos will be a bit better https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bdrsfv

[fiery sable]

Thanks

[mossy venture]

P400a is £75, that's also a good option for case

P300a is I think 60

[fossil cedar]

Id do this
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JjBtd9

[fiery sable]

Nice, thank you both

[fossil cedar]

Np

[shut rampart]

My screen is flickering idk why

[fossil cedar]

Try ddu

!ddu

[still roost]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[shut rampart]

Nvm fixed just a simple shut down and turn on

If I did ddu do I need to reinstall of my drivers?

[analog pulsar]

@cyan ravine you got time to talk

[empty pollen]

he must be sleeping, is australia remember 😛

[analog pulsar]

Hm

Sleepy head

[cyan tartan]

is this chat good to ask what I should buy when im going to upgrade?

if so, Im looking to streaming on my pc. and I need a new cpu. Current pc is I7-8700, RTX 2080 Super, and 16gb of ram (ddr4 3200 mhz)

[empty pollen]

whats your budget? also us?

[earnest olive]

cpu shouldn't impact your ability to stream significantly

just use nvenc

[analog pulsar]

Ew Nvidia

[empty pollen]

sadly is still the best codec

[earnest olive]

i7-8700 and 2080 super is a pretty balanced pair, if you want to upgrade I suggest waiting for the i5-13400

[analog pulsar]

Nah kidding

[earnest olive]

I think intel might have them beat

but like... he's already got a 2080S

[empty pollen]

true, thats almost 3060ti performance

[cyan tartan]

no budget

just currently hitting 100% when I play and stream at the same time

[earnest olive]

are you streaming off of CPU?

change your encoder to nvenc

[cyan tartan]

doing that now

its on Nvenc H.264 (new)

[earnest olive]

was it already on that?

[cyan tartan]

yes

[earnest olive]

what games/settings are you seeing 100% cpu in?

[cyan tartan]

task manager shows 100% while live and in a match

[earnest olive]

that did not answer the question

[cyan tartan]

my bad

i have every setting on low (Apex Legends)

[earnest olive]

are you having performance issues like stuttering/frame drops or would you just like to get a bit higher fps

cause if it's the latter you should still wait for the i5-13400

[cyan tartan]

stuttering and frame drops

[earnest olive]

hm

100% sure xmp is activated?

[cyan tartan]

What is xmp?

[earnest olive]

that's probably the issue lol

do you know what brand of motherboard you have?

[cyan tartan]

msi

[coral monolith]

Hello

[earnest olive]

go on youtube and search how to enable xmp on msi motherboard

do you know which chipset?

[coral monolith]

Trynna build a pc for gaming mostly, need some recommendations for the parts

[earnest olive]

like b360/b365/z370/z390

[coral monolith]

budget is 1500 total including monitor, mouse and keyboard

[cyan tartan]

i can check

Z370-A Pro

so im asusming just Z370

What does XMP do?

[earnest olive]

makes your "3200" ram actually run at 3200 instead of probably 2133 right now

[cyan tartan]

does that make a big difference? and yep... its running 2133

Im just trying to get a deeper understanding of all this

[earnest olive]

it will definitely help with your stuttering and frame drops

also could you show me a picture of which slots the memory is in?

@coral monolith https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TktyBj

I'm not too knowledgeable about mice or prebuilt keyboards so I just left some room in the budget for them

[cyan tartan]

Left pc to eat some dinner, im pretty sure 2 and 4

[earnest olive]

pic

[cyan tartan]

Its gonna he horrible bc of lights, want me to turn the pc off first?

[earnest olive]

doesn't matter as long as it's visible

[cyan tartan]

Kk, gimmie one min

and xmp changed it from 2133 to 2933

@earnest olive i cant send photos

[mossy venture]

Dm it to me and sips

[cyan tartan]

cant dm you

[mossy venture]

That's a you seeing

Setting

I have it set to allow dms

[earnest olive]

yup they are in correct slots

[cyan tartan]

anything else to make it 3200?

[earnest olive]

just need to enable xmp

[cyan tartan]

I did that

pushed it from 2133 to 2933

[earnest olive]

huh...

2933?

z370 board should allow you to run it at 3200

[analog pulsar]

@earnest olive you got a moment to talk?

[earnest olive]

about what

[analog pulsar]

My ram "no oc" just basic stuff

[earnest olive]

can you stop wasting time and just ask the question

[cyan tartan]

why were you recommending the 13th gen i5? would the 13th gen i9 be better? Or is there no real point in getting it

[analog pulsar]

im typing

[earnest olive]

just not much point

[analog pulsar]

So I have this ram as you know and like I said to Felix when I turn xmp on it doesn't not boot unless I turn the computer off then back on again I was just wondering if I should go though the rma process to fix it or just keep it how it is I just won't be able to OC but it seems to be stable ish but it's gunna be running stock speeds but yea so I enable xmp my cpu and ram light flicker the while time but when I restart my pc it boots into xmp my question is should I just keep the ram how it is and not deal with RMA and stuff

[wooden spoke]

Wanted to check if there’s any compatibility issues with this build so far. New to pc building so wanted to make sure there aren’t any issues, any recommendation on a PSU is appreciated as well.

Shared List https://newegg.io/9303c9f

[earnest olive]

if it's not on the QVL you probably don't have a valid RMA reason

[mossy venture]

Link doesn't work, and use pcpartpicker.com instead

[earnest olive]

have felix walk you through tuning it to make it work

[wooden spoke]

Here

[mossy venture]

There is some stuff I would change in that list, though there aren't any compatibility issues

Whats your total budget for the tower?

[analog pulsar]

Well we just turned on xmp and it would not run plus it would not run on my i3 or i5 like it did before on my i3 we also tried "3200" xmp and no boot

[cyan tartan]

would there be a better cpu on the Ryzen side?

i would be fine getting a newer motherboard

[earnest olive]

not at the moment

[cyan tartan]

interesting. thanks for the help!

[earnest olive]

you'll need a new motherboard either way

your motherboard caps out at 9th gen

[cyan tartan]

oh yea, i forgot about that

any thing else I should try to get the ram to a higher speed?

or is the 2933 fine

[earnest olive]

does it say 3200 or 2933 in the bios when you enable xmp

[cyan tartan]

brb, imma restart and check

[earnest olive]

i'm gonna go enjoy some precious gaming time now

let bacca help you with the rest

[cyan tartan]

👍

Bacca, in bios is says 2933

@mossy venture is 2933 the max? Just checked into it and my ram is 3000mhz not 3200

[mossy venture]

Could be limited by your motherboard

What mobo and cpu?

[cyan ravine]

Sounds like a max jedec moment hmm maybe not

[cyan tartan]

I7-8700 @ 3.20 Ghz. And a Z370 Gaming Codez XE

[wooden spoke]

I already have/own the Samsung ssd, and the wd red. Wouldn’t wanna go over $4500 max

[mossy venture]

Yeah thats the max for you

[cyan tartan]

😭

[mossy venture]

Kk, give me a few minutes. I'm at work so it'll just take a bit

[cyan ravine]

Nah I'm not sure tbh Bacca

[wooden spoke]

Take all the time you need

[cyan ravine]

It's a z board so yeet

[mossy venture]

It is

[cyan ravine]

It's cpu locked?

[mossy venture]

Any preference for looks?

[cyan tartan]

Would you know the best board (msi) and best cpu to get with it?

[wooden spoke]

I like the white look

White/black and all addressable RGB preferably

[cyan tartan]

Im just trying to get a list together for some christmas stuff

[mossy venture]

Rgb?

[cyan ravine]

I wouldn't attach to just one brand

[wooden spoke]

Yup

[cyan ravine]

That's how you find yourself paying needlessly extra

[mossy venture]

Kk

I'll ping you with a list when I can make one

[cyan ravine]

Pay best price for features

[cyan tartan]

Gotcha, who do you recommend?

[cyan ravine]

8700 is pretty competent low end too I don't really think an upgrade is going to be mega

If it's doing 2933 ram then

Not slow by that metric

[cyan tartan]

i have the means right now to upgrade and want to, should I go all out just so it will last longer?

[cyan ravine]

Means as in...?

Is this a big budget upgrade?

[cyan tartan]

no budget as of right now

just trying to find the best to get, and then some middle ground stuff

[cyan ravine]

Is it out of your pocket still?

[cyan tartan]

yes and no

I will be spending some money, and some family will buy other parts

[cyan ravine]

Eh I'd still say that's out of pocket overall

Family counts lol

I meant like if a business was paying

[cyan tartan]

ah, no

should I just throw out a number?

[cyan ravine]

Well, let me ask a couple more questions

[cyan tartan]

throw em at me

[cyan ravine]

Does your current system struggle at all with anything you do?

Or just, seems fine, just not fast

[cyan tartan]

It does while I stream and game

other than that is just feels fine

[cyan ravine]

Ok

And you have a 2080 super yes?

[cyan tartan]

i just turned on xmp so I would have to see how it works when i stream next

and yes. 2080 super

[cyan ravine]

Alr

Cos a 2080 super is a very competent card I wouldn't jump on upgrading it unless you really felt strained

8700 too, but you want more cpu

[cyan tartan]

i dont want to upgrade gpu

just anything that might need it

[cyan ravine]

I agree

Ok what psu do you have? Last question

I need the specific model

[cyan tartan]

corsair rm850x

i think, let me double check

[hasty cove]

Can someone help me with cables

[cyan tartan]

it is the rm850x

[cyan ravine]

Ok so really anything you want

Good

Ok as sips said, if you can wait for 13400 that would be sweet

A good tower cooler would be nice on that

[hasty cove]

Once ur done helping him can you help me please

[cyan ravine]

If you had to upgrade right now

Prolly 12400

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MhnhrD

[cyan tartan]

would it be a waste to go with the i9-13900k?

[shut rampart]

Sadge I can’t sign in to my account

[cyan tartan]

would it last me longer than the i5?

[mossy venture]

13900k is maybe 5% better than the 13600k in gaming

[cyan ravine]

I mean, yes

[cyan tartan]

what does it excel in?

[cyan ravine]

13900K you want for production

[cyan tartan]

i just want to guarantee that Game will work flawlessly and have a very stable stream

[cyan ravine]

It's not really for games despite the marketing

13600K is like "yeah we're gaming on the edge"

[cyan tartan]

ah

[cyan ravine]

13600K will get within a couple % of 13900K without being gross on price as much

[earnest olive]

no, the board probably just only supports 133mhz dividers

[cyan ravine]

3100??

[earnest olive]

or it's set that way, though it shouldn't be by default

check your math lol

[cyan tartan]

do i want i5 or i7?

[cyan ravine]

Oh wait it'll be 3066

[earnest olive]

2933/3066/3200

[cyan ravine]

Dude my math at 9am

Stahp

[earnest olive]

so it's defaulting to closest lower one

I took a high level cs course final at 8am today

[cyan ravine]

Me? I'd say 12400/13400 would hit your needs very well already

13600K is also, a lot of overkill

But it is tbf worth doing

You could grab a better gpu with it later

[cyan tartan]

but with any of those the stream and game at the same time would run fine?

[cyan ravine]

Pretty much

All of them will slap

[hasty cove]

Can someone help me out with some cables, I don’t wanna break something

[cyan tartan]

do you know what the best motherboard with that would be?

[cyan ravine]

Do you need wifi

[cyan tartan]

no

[cyan ravine]

Ok awesome

Brb you'll get an msi

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yXJ3Rv

[cyan tartan]

any other brand have a better board?

or is the msi perfectly fine

[wooden spoke]

wanna stick with the 4080, im based in canada as well

[cyan tartan]

would this board be perfectly fine even if i decide to get an i7 or i9?

[wooden spoke]

would 850w be enough for a 4080 build as well?

[cyan ravine]

No it won't, well....

It could... But I wouldn't

[cyan ravine]

Ironically msi is the best pairing for you here

Lol

[cyan tartan]

lol

what would fit perfectl with an i7 or i9

[mossy venture]

I should've asked that, few min again

[cyan ravine]

I7 or i9 just basically add e cores for production workloads

That's what I'm saying don't worry about those

[cyan tartan]

oh

[cyan ravine]

It's not a gaming benefit

[cyan tartan]

ah. that makes sense

[cyan ravine]

For 13400 I'd probably do this cos it has qflash

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DHxkbK

Wifi too is nice

[cyan tartan]

what is the difference between the 13400 compared to the 13600k

[cyan ravine]

A few more e cores and unlocked overclocking

[wooden spoke]

all good, shouldv'e told you sooner lol

[cyan ravine]

So really, marginal benefit

[cyan tartan]

when will the 13400 drop?

any regular atx motherboard that would be better?

[cyan ravine]

Likely january February

For 13600K I'd do this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GPmpnt

[mossy venture]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/64tyBj

Smthn along these lines

[cyan ravine]

I would not use the 13600K motherboard with the other cpus I suggested

[cyan tartan]

sounds good

[cyan ravine]

ATX vs mATX is just an extra slot at the bottom really

[cyan tartan]

ah

[cyan ravine]

You shouldn't stress over form factor unless it's itx imo

[cyan tartan]

AIO or the air cooler?

[cyan ravine]

Aio for 13600K

110%

I'll get the link for it

[cyan tartan]

sounds good, thanks!

[mossy venture]

Without ocing, ak620 is fine on it

Especially with gaming

If you plan to oc, I would very much recommend a good 280mm aio or bigger

[cyan ravine]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/354106545275

[cyan tartan]

is the corsair one good? all my peripherals are corsair and i would rather not have to use other brands (mainly for the rgb)

[cyan ravine]

Hopefully it comes back in stock

Corsair is terrible value

[mossy venture]

Corsair is not good no

Especially their aios and ram

[cyan tartan]

oh

[mossy venture]

They make a few good psus and some cases

That's about it

[cyan tartan]

should I get some new ram then from another company?