#building-and-recc-chat

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fossil cedar
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Also what power supply do you have now? Do you care about ray tracing?

little osprey
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I'm in the U.S. And the tag on my power supply says RX-630SS

fossil cedar
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okay

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do you care about ray tracing?

little osprey
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Not really.

fossil cedar
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yeah

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3080s are pretty poor value

little osprey
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Bear in mind, I'm using an old GeForce 1080 right now.

fossil cedar
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yeah 6800xt is a nice upgrade

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its equal in perf to a 3080 except in ray tracing

little osprey
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Gotcha. I'll see if I can find one, it's out of stock on NewEgg

fossil cedar
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showing in stock for me ?

little osprey
fossil cedar
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its way better value, same perforance

little osprey
fossil cedar
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the gf is on amazon for pretty cheap

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uh the corsair one you linked is only 750w as well instead of 850w

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too expensive for a 750w tbh

little osprey
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Oops.

little osprey
little osprey
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Which is better? Or should I order the ThermalTake off Amazon?

fossil cedar
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theyre both around the same so if you dont wanna wait you can get that one

little osprey
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Gotcha. Also, is there a way tot rack where these things are being shipped from?

fossil cedar
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uh idk

little osprey
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Gotcha. Wondering if I should buy from NewEgg or Amazon.

little osprey
wheat locust
desert gulch
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Not at all

wheat locust
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Why?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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6800xt does ray tracing okay tho i guess

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Nah honestly best ray tracing game is Minecraft bedrock

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Which is the one noone plays lol

wheat locust
white osprey
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Y’all think it would be better to find a mobo under 100 today or wait until Monday ?

fossil cedar
wheat locust
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Looks good, is the 4090 series that much better than then 3090?

proven salmon
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Hay have a quick question do you need an operating system when building your own pc?

weary galleon
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Windows can be installed for free with a watermark

proven salmon
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Okay thx

fossil cedar
wheat locust
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@fossil cedar That one looks good too. I noticed that the cooling unit doesn't have a reservoir. Are those not a thing anymore?

fossil cedar
icy crater
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A friend of mine wants to build a pc this black friday he has like a up to $2000 budget he mainly plays valorant. Can someone help me make him a build that includes the monitor? Honestly it doesn’t have to be that expensive. Anywhere $1200-$2000 is fine.

wheat locust
languid nimbus
icy crater
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He was interested in this.

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Is this good for him?

paper summit
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4core brr

drowsy zodiac
wheat locust
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Tried to go with a little more white

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but also tried to keep your recommendations in place

empty pollen
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need cooler

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13600 is quite hot

stoic island
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ls720 is good

fossil cedar
little osprey
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My system wont post due because of older bios (MSI MPG z690 edge ddr4 + i7 13700k)
I am getting a red and yellow flashing light on the mobo (red cpu, yellow dram) and when I use the usb for flash using FAT32 formatting and desinated flash bios port while holding the flash bios button on mobo the light wont flash and the only way for the light to stay on is for me to hold it but doing so does nothing regardless

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new build ^ it has never posted before

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ram is seated correctly, all of the power connectors are plugged in properly and such

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any idea what might be the problem?

little osprey
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yes

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MSI.ROM

stoic island
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You could take out all other factors by taking the mobo out and taking everything out of the mobo

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Just power is needed for bios flashback

brittle spindle
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Is it okay to pair a 5600 and a 1600 super

little osprey
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sigh I was hoping it wouldnt come down to that

hasty prism
hasty prism
brittle spindle
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oh yea i mean 1660 super

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it should be fine right?

stoic island
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It'll be compatible, unless you're asking for something else?

brittle spindle
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i mean like is there gonna be a lot of bottleneck?

paper summit
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No not at all

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It will be fine with 1660

brittle spindle
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thanks

little osprey
stoic island
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if you want to take out uncertainty, take them off, if you want to just try with them on still, sure

little osprey
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sadge

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ill try with and without

hasty prism
hasty prism
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5600G

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pcpartpicker scaring me

paper summit
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Yea my b550 was fine

hasty prism
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alr

little osprey
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aint gonna lie, almost touched cpu after 1 minute ago it was on

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the aio was hot af, so glad I didnt go immediately

hasty prism
paper summit
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U can get a 6650xt for a lil more

little osprey
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me personally I am not a fan of the case I would prefer something with slightly better airflow but if you like it stay with it

paper summit
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Also y 5600g?

hasty prism
little osprey
hasty prism
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i js wanna play it safe

little osprey
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alright, you do you

hasty prism
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wtf my neighbor brought pumpkin pie

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they a lil late

little osprey
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still tasty

paper summit
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Yea

hasty prism
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yeah

paper summit
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Only a day💀

hasty prism
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the get together was yesterday tho

paper summit
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I mean if u dont wanna sh ill take it

little osprey
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no flashing yellow though just solid red

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I was supposed to take out cpu yes?

stoic island
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Ye

little osprey
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ok well I did just that but nothing yet

little osprey
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damn this just doesnt want to post

white osprey
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Can someone help me find a mobo for a 100 or less? I have ryzen 5 3600, 2070S, 16gb ram, 500gb m.2 ssd, 2tb hdd,

potent portal
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Do you have any special needs like wifi or full atx?

fossil cedar
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B450 prime ii is like 80$ and has flashback

potent portal
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Not that you'd need flashback for a 3600 but yes nice to have

brittle spindle
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I am trying to update my bios but it gives me an error that is "q flash manager invalid bios image" any fixes?

potent portal
brittle spindle
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it is the exact model board

potent portal
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How old is the current bios?

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Sometimes if you're jumping multiple versions you need a "step up" version

brittle spindle
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f4 im going to f62

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2019 to 2022

potent portal
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Yep that might be it, what model is it?

brittle spindle
potent portal
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Do version F32 first

brittle spindle
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ok ill be back, thank you

potent portal
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It's not always super obvious in the notes for each version

hasty prism
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okay so when im doing a bios flashback do i have to take everything off the mobo or no

potent portal
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Depends on the board but you shouldn't have to normally

hasty prism
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alr

potent portal
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Most of the time it's just optional to have no cpu or ram installed

hasty prism
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okay

brittle spindle
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ok i juist updated to f32

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do i just go to f63

potent portal
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Yep that was the only step up I saw

brittle spindle
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I updated to f62

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Everything went fine

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But right now it’s on but it’s not posting

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It was turning on and off on and off

potent portal
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Clear cmos maybe

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It might go off and on a few times to setup certain things as well like memory training

brittle spindle
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No it’s just on right now doing nothing lol

white osprey
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@potent portal I don’t have any special needs, don’t need Wi-Fi on it either. Does the micro atx limit future upgrades?

potent portal
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The only difference between micro and full atx is the number of extra connectors available like fan headers and PCIe slots

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Cheaper boards might limit upgrade options based on VRM cooling though

white osprey
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Oh ok, do you there will be better deals on Monday ?

brittle spindle
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The computer is on but no post, it updated to f62 I put on xmp then I save and exited it restarted and nothing is happening now

potent portal
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Yep clear cmos

brittle spindle
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How

brittle spindle
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Will this work for ryzen?

potent portal
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Yes it says intel but it's universal

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Would even work on IBM and ARM

brittle spindle
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Should I do jumper or battery method

potent portal
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Jumper tends to be faster

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It might take a few attempts

white osprey
brittle spindle
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When I do this will it keep the bios I downloaded?

brittle spindle
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Ok i am back on my pc it worked thankfully

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is there anything i should do

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like in the bios

potent portal
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For now no but you'll want to update your chipset drivers

brittle spindle
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does it save the settings i changed b4 it stopped working

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i put xmp b4 the pc just died

potent portal
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It'll have cleared that

brittle spindle
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does it save xmp is what im trying to say lol

potent portal
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But you want to update the chipset before you do that anyway

brittle spindle
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ok how do i do that

potent portal
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Windows 10 or 11

brittle spindle
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10

potent portal
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I almost forgot AMD doesn't like direct links so there's the page to get it

brittle spindle
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and after i do this i can fully install a ryzen 5000 series no problem right? lol

potent portal
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Yes

brittle spindle
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oh thank God i dont have to go into bios for this

potent portal
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Once you swap processors it usually clears all your settings anyway so you'd have to enable XMP all over again lol

brittle spindle
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im also gonna upgrade ram with cpu so it works out

potent portal
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Yep just Windows, updating now ensures no issues later

brittle spindle
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oh yea i also wanted to ask you about that process, when i upgrade my pc with ram and cpu. Do i do cpu first or ram

white osprey
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@potent portal sry but wdym an upgrade in connectivity ?

potent portal
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More USB ports mostly

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The Type C port and all

white osprey
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Ok thx

brittle spindle
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hey fal'cie i just updated chipset should i go ahead and enable xmp, btw the cpu is coming in a few days

potent portal
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You should be good to go now yeah

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When you swap CPUs it's best to clear cmos again, same with swapping memory

brittle spindle
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so install cpu clear cmos boot up. then install memory clear cmos boot up. or can i install the cpu and memory at the same time then clear cmos then bootup

potent portal
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You can do both at the same time with one clear

brittle spindle
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ok thank you so much

little osprey
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!ddu

still roostBOT
near garden
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My mobo has 2 m.2 slots one has a heat sink it’s in use currently and I just bought another nvme do I need a heat sink for that one too ?

potent portal
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Nah heatsinks are only necessary in certain cases, like gen 4 drives that you'll be copying large amounts of data to/from other SSDs

analog pulsar
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@fossil cedar @cyan ravine @potent portal oooooooooo

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Case is sending

analog hearth
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mmm case is sending

dim forge
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guys

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should I build a used 3600 + corsair cooleer (idk which one yet) for 80$?

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a friend of mine is selling it

potent portal
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"Corsair cooler" is extremely broad, which one?

dim forge
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I'm asking 1 sec

potent portal
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You might be able to flip the cooler alone for more if it's one of the more expensive ones

dim forge
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w8 no it's just the stock cooler ☠️

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nvm

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I rather buy a 5600 for 20 bucks more tho

analog hearth
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never seen “w8” before 💀

dim forge
potent portal
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Ah well the 3600 is going for $90 on ebay so yeah I'd just get a 5600 over that

dim forge
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the only problem is I don't have the money for the gpu

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and I don't want to buy a 5600g

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💀

potent portal
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Regular 5600 is $128 today

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New

dim forge
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I have a 25$ discount code

potent portal
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Ah nice

weary galleon
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Oh that's max $20

dim forge
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lol

analog pulsar
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Ye

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But I wanna wait for my case

ornate condor
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which mobo did you choose

analog pulsar
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Case

ornate condor
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sure but which mobo will you use with 13600k lol

empty pollen
analog pulsar
little osprey
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Do I need to buy a CPU cooler for this silly Lil build

ornate condor
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I barely OCing my 13900kf to 6ghz lol

analog pulsar
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Lol

ornate condor
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6ghz on 2 cores and 5.8ghz all cores perfection

languid nimbus
little osprey
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So no more fans then 😄

hasty socket
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Could someone link me a decent build for WoW and editing for under 900?

potent portal
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Editing what? With what program?

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@hasty socket If we know what program you're editing with we'll know if it heavily prefers AMD, Nvidia, or Intel

potent portal
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Ok that does tend to favor Nvidia but is CPU-agnostic

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How do you feel about used GPUs @hasty socket ?

potent portal
# hasty socket Mostly Sony Vegas

Well here's this, I left room in the budget for either getting a new condition GPU or upgrading the CPU to a 12600k (and a cooler), whichever you'd prefer

jagged nest
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is 1500w for psu too much for 730 estimated wattage?

cyan ravine
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Yes

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1500W is extreme overkill (or extreme underkill depending on the model kek)

jagged nest
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so what would you recommend

obsidian wigeon
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850w

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750 is fine but you don't have much room

toxic schooner
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I just installed windows 11, It worked thanks a lot ! 💯

frigid night
fossil cedar
south cliff
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Can someone help me real quick I turned on my pc and I don’t have anything on my taskbar

merry spindle
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If I connect ASUS aRGB fans to an MSI motherboard, I should be able to control their lighting with OpenRGB right?

fossil cedar
# south cliff

Try restarting explorer, easiest way to do that is to open file explorer, then open task manager and press on file explorer and it should say restart or force quit or something

empty pollen
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windws key+R and run explorer

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that should do the trick

fossil cedar
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Uh try a restart?

south cliff
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Yeah now it’s doing a disk check

obsidian wigeon
sick forge
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Hi all, just did a build on newegg, want comments and suggestions. No obvious issues with the build? https://newegg.io/0483069

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CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($344.98 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40 Memory ($264.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Video Card ($469.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($104.99 @ Best Buy Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair HX750 Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Canada Computers)

south cliff
sick forge
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This is a mostly gaming PC. a few shooters, mostly RPG and some RTS

south cliff
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Is the ak400 the dual fan one right?

south cliff
mossy venture
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That pc is very overpriced for what you're getting

south cliff
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469*

sick forge
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Thx for all replies the AK400 looks like a single fan

sick forge
south cliff
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Yeah don’t get that for a 12600k

mossy venture
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What's your total budget for your build?

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I'll make you a list

south cliff
sick forge
sick forge
mossy venture
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So like 2500 cad or so?

sick forge
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Max yes

south cliff
sick forge
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Try to limit the GPU to 400 USD or 500 CAD approx

south cliff
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Still not good for 350 usd

sick forge
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So basically what could be improved is the cooler, what do you suggest? And what about the GPU if not a 3060 12GB?

mossy venture
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So either spend less or spend more on the gpu

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One minute, I'll have you a list put together in a moment

south cliff
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Cpu equals smoothness and hi equals more fps

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Gpu

sick forge
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been out of the custom build game for a good while

mossy venture
sick forge
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sure, just used to Nvidia.

mossy venture
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6800xt consistently beats or matches 3080 in all but workstation tasks and ray tracing

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Cheapest 3080 is 1500 cad right now, unless you go used, which is a very viable option

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Though in that case I'd personally change that psu to the gf1 850

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Since it handles power spikes better, which the 3080 has very high spikes

south cliff
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W

mossy venture
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Only thing that I'm not certain on is if that motherboard has a bios flash button, I would do some research on that since you'll almost for sure need a bios update to run the 13600kf

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If it doesn't, I would get the msi pro z690-a or a z790

south cliff
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Is the 13600kf a lot better than the 12609k

mossy venture
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It's a decent bit better yes

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Especially in multi core

south cliff
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How much more is it?

mossy venture
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About 10% in some cases in single core, in others much less

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In multi core much more

stoic island
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Pretty sure that board has flashback button mid board

mossy venture
sick forge
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The only reason I got the 12600k is that its 100$ less than the 13600K or KF. rebate of 60$

mossy venture
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You can if you'd like, it won't be a huge difference in real world performance

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I would check 5700x price, very similar gaming performance

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Though if going ddr5 definitely go 13600k, no point in getting a worse cpu to get better ram

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13600k on d4 beats 12600k on d5

sick forge
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Ouch that saphire GPU is 1000$ cad. Never spent that much on a GPU. What would be good for 600$ max?

sick forge
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(13)

mossy venture
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Gaming is more gpu focused, the 12400f is enough for even a 3090

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13600k is overkill for even a 4090

mossy venture
south cliff
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I think I did something wrong

mossy venture
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Since it has 4 extra e cores

mossy venture
south cliff
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I can go to file explorer and open stuff but it’s just a black screen

mossy venture
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Weird

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I've no clue, I've never seen that before

south cliff
mossy venture
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That's super weird

sick forge
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So basically 12600 is fine, don't cheap out on GPU. Still 1000$ Is a bit much. So what would make sense below that?

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Any suggestions for the cooler?

mossy venture
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There's no point in getting a 12600k and pairing it with a 6700xt tier gpu if you're gaming

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I would downgrade cpu to 5600 or 12400f

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Cooler, for 12600k 100% ak620

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For either of the other two just a cheap $20-$30- tower cooler is fine

merry spindle
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For my gaming m.2 SSD, do I slot it into m2_1 or m2_2?

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On a ryzen board

south cliff
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Golly man I can’t get anywhere I have tried everything

mossy venture
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I know what you did

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You ended a system task

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You have to turn your pc off and back on

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Hold the power button if pressing it doesn't work

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Idk why it took me so long to realize, im sorry

south cliff
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After this it’s just a black screen

south cliff
mossy venture
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W11?

south cliff
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Ye

mossy venture
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So even restarting just does the same thing?

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Try doing a system power drain, turn psu off and hold the power button

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I dont really remember how long you're supposed to hold it for, id assume 30 seconds would do it but don't quote me on that

south cliff
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Ok

mossy venture
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If that doesn't work my last thought would be windows is just screwed and you might have to reinstall it, but id 100% say wait for someone else who knows more than me to give their opinion

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I'm also not familiar with w11, so could be a common issue I dont know about

south cliff
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Yeah it didn’t work and when I tried going to recovery mode and reset my pc it just went back to recovery mode at like 28 percent

mossy venture
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If you have a way of reinstalling windows easily it wouldn't hurt, if not just wait for someone else to give their input

south cliff
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I tried but it won’t let me go to recovery mode

mossy venture
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I'd suggest m32q

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X32 goes on good sales too

spice mauve
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i would, but its out of stock
also, is there any functional difference between 32" and 34"?

mossy venture
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I mean, yes, whether you'll need it is another story

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If you're gaming imo 32in is too big already

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But that's personal preference

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Whether you'll like it or not is purely up to you

spice mauve
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does curvature of the monitor actually help with anything?

mossy venture
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Again, personal preference

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For some people it's like night and day

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Personally I prefer a bit of a curve, others swear by it being ass

spice mauve
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ok thank you 👍

mossy venture
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Yeah

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Not as nice as the odyssey (odyssey is normally overpriced) or the gigabyte m32q

mossy venture
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That monitor is also very nice

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Though 34in 1440p might be a bit low on pixel density, but depends how far from your monitor you sit

spice mauve
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the one i have open is "GIGABYTE G34WQC A-SA 34"" for $330 usd

mossy venture
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Yeah thats pretty decent, but as I said personally I would not game on 34in

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Can always return it if you don't like it though

spice mauve
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i sit about an arm's length away from my monitor
i already have a 27" 1440p (only 75hz) display and i really like it, would you suggest replacing it with a higher refresh rate display and moving it to replace my low quality second monitor?

mossy venture
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Yes

spice mauve
mossy venture
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X27q was $170 on black Friday

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I got mine for $175 after tax on prime day

spice mauve
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dang thats almost too goood to pass up

mossy venture
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My bank account was crying for a while bc of all the good deals I found the last month or so lol

spice mauve
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what platform generally has the best deals?

mossy venture
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$200 mobo for $120, that monitor, I needed a new pair of moonsparks, and then I bought my cpu

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It shows the cheapest price from every retailer

spice mauve
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cool thank you

mossy venture
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But normally amazon or newegg, and sometimes walmart has some surprisingly good deals on pre builts and laptops

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But those are more rare

mossy venture
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Those more rarely, mainly being cpus

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I haven't seen much else

fossil cedar
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ive seen revo df be good price there too

mossy venture
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I think he corrupted windows

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But didn't want to say for sure since I didn't know 100%

fossil cedar
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uh the no icons on task bar?

mossy venture
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Whole screen goes black except for task manager

fossil cedar
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they tried the sfc bat ffile?

mossy venture
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They can't do anything in windows

spice mauve
mossy venture
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Tried restart and power drain

fossil cedar
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what happened after restart?

mossy venture
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Got to windows screen, put in password and then nothing but black screen I believe

fossil cedar
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oof idk then

mossy venture
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Would be better for them to tell you themselves as I'm not sure, they didn't give much detail

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Yeah I think they somehow closed something in task manager that caused windows to corrupt

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Pato I forgot I'm on your time right now

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I looked at the time and was like "why is Pato up so late"

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Then remembered I'm either in the same timezone as you or maybe ahead

fossil cedar
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lol ahead i think

mossy venture
cloud tangle
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Anyone know if suprim x 4090 would fit in a helios case?

analog pulsar
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How do you get a cpu colder while using a lot of watts?

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My cpu is like 86C at 215W

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Does that vary based on how much thermal paste you put on and how you put the cooler on?

mossy venture
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What cpu?

potent portal
analog pulsar
mossy venture
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What cooler?

analog pulsar
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ek 360 D

mossy venture
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It should be cooler

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Mine gets 80c with a 280mm that's a bit worse than that at 210w

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Actually I take that back

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I forgot I'm undervolting

analog pulsar
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My bios has a lot of new stuff in it lol

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Like full OC time

potent portal
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Meanwhile my 5800X still manages to hit 90 in p95 with a 420

mossy venture
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I haven't ran p95 yet

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I'm sure my 13600k will hit 90 in that

potent portal
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Oh I should point out @analog pulsar p95 temps aren't an indicator of anything except the absolute max load and no other tests will go that high

analog pulsar
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Gaming is kinda high but not to high

potent portal
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Depends on the game but most of the time you'll be a good 20 degrees cooler

analog pulsar
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I have to go work but after work I can do more testing

south cliff
# fossil cedar lol ahead i think

So when I turned on my pc there was no icons and someone told me to restart the windows explorer or smt and I believe after I restarted it I like exited out of it in task manager

potent portal
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Yep almost 20 degrees cooler

analog pulsar
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So is 5.1Ghz it can run is that just for 1 core or all core

south cliff
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And now when I log in it’s just a black screen with my cursor

potent portal
analog pulsar
#

Oh that's right XTU is a thing I forgot bc it didn't work for my 12100f

potent portal
#

Yep you've got a K now so it shouldn't fuss any more

mossy venture
#

60c is the highest I've seen in games

potent portal
mossy venture
#

Oh I didn't even think to try that

south cliff
#

I’m pretty sure everything thing works it’s just black

#

I think

#

I’m going to try rn

potent portal
south cliff
#

Yeah I can get into take manager

potent portal
#

Did you get to the run dialog?

#

In task manager it's one of the menu options at the top

south cliff
#

Bro now it’s doing this

analog pulsar
#

@potent portal I liked my old old cpu when brrrrrr

south cliff
potent portal
#

Advanced options

south cliff
#

K

potent portal
#

Should be one to open a command prompt

south cliff
#

Yup

analog pulsar
fossil cedar
south cliff
south cliff
#

Well it brings me to recovery

#

It was just black screen with my mouse

potent portal
south cliff
#

X

potent portal
#

Ok so you'll have to do an offline repair, it's a little more complicated

#

diskpart

#

list volume

south cliff
#

I have to type?

potent portal
#

Yes

south cliff
#

Just like this

potent portal
#

Uh oh I think I see what might be your problem

#

What drive is 1TB?

south cliff
#

Ssd

potent portal
#

The boot drive with windows?

south cliff
#

I don’t think so

viral ore
#

thats what it looks like to me

potent portal
#

Do you also see what I see sassy

viral ore
#

i do

#

:P

potent portal
#

rip

viral ore
#

recuva could handle it

south cliff
#

Is it broken

viral ore
#

install win on seperate drive, run recuva, get important files

potent portal
#

File system isn't detected so something got corrupted

south cliff
#

I don’t got anything I can install windows on

potent portal
#

Unless you have windows installed on your 2TB or 4TB drive instead of the 1TB

haughty void
#

Need some help here since I'm not really in the know for prebuilt PC's
Gf brother wants a PC prebuilt preferred. Wants to spend a max of $4,000. Most graphically demanding game he will be playing is half life alyx. He has the index for vr.

south cliff
potent portal
#

derp I missed the MB

#

So it's not that one lol

south cliff
#

It’s a usb

#

I don’t got another pc

#

To download windows

viral ore
#

if D has a label like that, it couldnt have been a boot drive

#

so windows, which was installed on the ssd, is gone

potent portal
#

How much did you have on the computer that you want to save

south cliff
#

All I got is games

#

I don’t do nothing else

viral ore
#

any files? pictures, school work?

south cliff
#

No

potent portal
#

Ok steam games mostly? For cloud saves that's good

south cliff
#

Yeah

potent portal
#

Perfect Steam will handle recovering your saves

#

All you need now is an install USB

south cliff
#

Got one

mossy venture
#

But I'll take a look around

#

On newegg only ones are from crappy brands like skytech and then some likely scams

haughty void
#

Well we can do a built PC but he prefers prebuilt due to easy and simple

mossy venture
#

Though at that price I doubt skytech really cheaps out on stuff too too much

south cliff
mossy venture
#

Give me a few Dallas, just getting ready for bed and then I'll look around more

haughty void
#

Yeah no rush

mossy venture
#

Every 4090 pre built aside from the one above has terrible airflow or is overpriced, that I can find anyways

#

Oh wait

#

One second

south cliff
mossy venture
#

I am still going to look around more though, and then make you a pcpartpicker.com list

potent portal
mossy venture
#

Actually case choice is expensive, there might be a better choice more reasonably priced

south cliff
potent portal
mossy venture
cyan ravine
#

You could max out with the best specs for 4k

#

Top of the line everything, even A die

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

Are 4090 prices really scuffed in us rn?

potent portal
#

Scalper city

cyan ravine
#

I'm seeing 2400 starting lol

#

Jesus

#

I should go see if it's gone up here

potent portal
#

4080s are sold out online because of bots but in stores they're just sitting on the shelf

south cliff
mossy venture
south cliff
#

But I can’t install it because I don’t got a pc

potent portal
#

Do you have an android phone or tablet with an adapter to put the USB?

south cliff
#

My brother got an android

#

But I don’t think I got an adapter

#

So I’m kinda screwed rn

cyan ravine
#

Hmm prices where I am haven't shifted

#

In fact still stock on the shelves

south cliff
#

Let me see if I can go to Walmart

#

And get a usb drive

cyan ravine
#

(Not helping anyone buy one tho the tax and shipping would be insane)

potent portal
#

Any 8GB+ one will do

cyan ravine
#

So the ventus is out

south cliff
#

K

cyan ravine
#

3 slots thick

#

Only half a slot less than it's brethren

south cliff
next star
#

hey, yall im selling my gaming pc on facebook market place. But i dont know how much i should sell it for and i got offred 780 dollars on it and i dont know if i should sell it at that price. these are the specs - RTX 2080 super, I7 9700k, Z390 UD, 16 gb ddr4 3200mhz, 1 TB of SSD and 2tb of HHD.

potent portal
analog pulsar
#

@potent portal

#

everything is good

wild peak
mossy venture
#

Give me a few min

#

I'd either do that psu or the gf1 850 for $80 if that's still on sale

#

I've ran a 6800xt on a 650w psu of similar quality to the phanteks amp though. It would be fine

analog pulsar
#

Sigh OCing to hard I just might leave my pc run default

#

So a cpu will turbo on its own

mossy venture
#

Cpu and ram oc are the most difficult

#

If you're just looking to have fun oc your gpu

analog pulsar
# mossy venture Cpu and ram oc are the most difficult

Well I got ram to run stable at 3600 CL16 G1 XMP but I turned up the voltage to 1.4v and it was fine then I was messing with cpu and my pc shut down and said bios failure I rerun the same stuff but I'm getting the red lights on my mobo

#

If I enabled 1 at a time its fine

mossy venture
#

Did you run a stress test after booting to windows with the ram oc

analog pulsar
#

I'm gunna take it slower lol

#

Enable xmp save then go back and turn on G1

#

Okay um there is one thing that's weird so the red lights come on and then I shut my pc off but after I turn it on it runs the XMP I habe enabled

#

Like I'm black screen rn but watch

#

Am I breaking something lol

#

i just saw this haha

#

and theres nothing running in start up haha

#

I'll just stop touching stuff and all this stuff is giving me a headache

near garden
#

Is it normal if I buy a 500gb ssd that it says it only has like 465gb available?

mossy venture
#

Yes

fossil cedar
#

Yes because manufacturers use the 1000mb=1gb metric and windows uses the correct metric as 1024mb=1gb (binary)

analog pulsar
#

Oh now I remember

#

Fal

analog pulsar
#

sheeeeesh e cores slow

#

17.4mhz

#

@mossy venture do I need contact frame someone in general said to get one

mossy venture
#

You don't need one

#

Only if you're going to get very into overclocking

analog pulsar
#

They said with Intel nowadays we need one

mossy venture
#

Need is a strong word

#

Only for ocing

woven horizon
#

I’ve become a noctua convert. Paid $60 for this beauty.

mossy venture
#

I need help from someone rn, my friends pc will turn on but won't give a display out

#

Monitor isn't broken, they tried two monitors

#

Haven't tried another cable yet, idk why I JUST NOW THOUGJT OF THAT

#

Having them do that now

#

Anyway, pc turns on but won't display

#

Igpu won't display either

#

No red leds on mobo

#

Power drain and restarting doesn't work

near garden
#

I would say is the gpu all the way In?

#

It happened to me once

mossy venture
#

It's worked for like 9 months so I'd assume so, unless it just randomly came out part way

#

I did think about that but it's a small gpu

#

I doubt it would sag enough for that to happen

woven horizon
#

Also move gpu to another slot and try removing and trying igpu

mossy venture
#

Only one slot on mobo

#

Tried removing

woven horizon
#

Should be better than my aio

mossy venture
#

Doesn't work

mossy venture
woven horizon
#

It’s freaking massive

mossy venture
#

I mean the aio

#

D15 doesn't beat a good 240 or decent 280

woven horizon
#

My home is also 18 degrees year round so I don’t really need any massive cooler

#

But I love the look of this one lol

mossy venture
#

Since it's a black radiator and tubes

woven horizon
#

Unless it is also white I would agree.

mossy venture
#

I got white fans for it since most of the rest of the build is white

#

If it looks bad whatever, not too concerned about it

woven horizon
#

Just get tube covers or psu cable sleeves. No one will know.

mossy venture
#

Idrm, it's white by chance though

#

The case was on sale and I didn't really care about looks

#

Gpu is like partially silver and white

#

Back outtake is a dusty asf black p12 lol

#

I tried so much to clean it short of dousing it in water

woven horizon
#

We are hydro dipping a 3070 xc3 white for my wife.

#

Revolt 3, squeezing 2 lp 80mm fans ftw

elfin flame
woven horizon
#

I like it

#

Should contrast well.

analog pulsar
#

lol microcenter

#

I would so get 4080

#

If I had money

weary galleon
#

I think you mistyped 7800?

#

4080 is garbage price/perf

analog pulsar
#

Should I cope this

weary galleon
#

Eh

#

1tb/80 isn't amazing

analog pulsar
#

Oh

desert gulch
#

you can get a p31 for that

#

albeit a bit slower in some things, but its a new drive

vague oracle
dusty coyote
#

Hey guys so I upgraded my PC from an I3-8100 to an I5-8600K and my cpu cooling fan is so much louder now than it was before. Is that normal? The temps seem to be fine, it’s just annoyingly loud now.

desert gulch
#

more power, more rpm to cool it

#

sounds normal for an upgrade like that

#

could check your temperatures using hwinfo64 to make sure its all good

weary galleon
#

Higher power draw = more heat = cooler works harder
Could also be you mounted the cooler a bit wonky or need to reapply thermal paste

analog pulsar
#

Hm I see

weary galleon
#

65w vs 95w

dusty coyote
#

That makes sense. Thank you I appreciate it. Just wanted to make sure I’m not going to cause my pc to fly away lol. Also thanks for the hwinfo64 info. I didn’t know how to check that like that. I kept going into the bios to check it. I am worried that I may have applied the thermal paste wrong but I don’t know. I watched a bunch of videos and stuff to see what the universally best way to apply it was. Hopefully I did it right lol I guess we’ll know if I catch on fire tonight lol

weary galleon
#

Pretty hard to mess up the paste if you've researched it at all

#

Cooler mounting is a bit trickier depending on the design

analog pulsar
#

Also looking for monitor stand for my 34 inch monitor what you think I should look for or is tbia good enough

#

Wait never I don't like this design

weary galleon
#

I've seen decent single arms for like $20

analog pulsar
dusty coyote
#

Yeah my cooler is one of the Intel ones that has the clips that you twist to click in

dusty coyote
analog pulsar
#

Ig this would work

dusty coyote
#

That is an interesting one

#

I have my monitors on the stands they came with and it sucks lol I’m looking to upgrade too

analog pulsar
#

@cyan ravine so ummm hehe yea so what is worst case scenario if you mix power supply cables....... asking for a friend

cyan ravine
#

Just straight up don't

cyan ravine
#

Some psu's from the same brand can mix, like corsair uses type 3/4 on theirs but I just wouldn't in your scenario

stoic island
#

things don't like it when you feed 12v into what should be ground and nothing where it should be 12v

cyan ravine
#

Much like I'm telling you to use XMP this is a like a level 5 problem for your level 3 skills

analog pulsar
#

Remember when you said to look for the pcie cables I don't remember if they came from my power supply or the one I bought

cyan ravine
#

That's fantastic

desert gulch
cyan ravine
#

You need to figure out which is which

analog pulsar
#

How many pcie things a 550W come with

cyan ravine
#

They should use different fonts

#

550W you'd be lucky to get more than 2

analog pulsar
#

What about 1

stoic island
analog pulsar
#

Wait nevermind

#

I zip tied my old power supply pcie cables when I had a 3080 in the pc

#

And these power supply cables have zip tie

desert gulch
#

so id have to like drive to get one idk

stoic island
analog pulsar
#

anywho pc is almost complete just waiting on case

#

my microcenter has trhis

cyan ravine
#

I thought you were getting xtxh

analog pulsar
#

Yea

#

Just looking

#

I'm trying to tell myself to wait

cyan ravine
#

It's like, 2 weeks away lol

analog pulsar
#

Yea I'm not gunna habe enough money for it

potent portal
analog pulsar
stoic island
potent portal
#

I got one with the GPU shuffle. I ended up with like 5 after I kept sending it back after they were either DOA or blew up under mysterious circumstances.

#

The last one currently resides in an old PC with no GPU

woven horizon
weary galleon
#

Nice

#

Is the 3100 like one of the Chinese market chips?

woven horizon
#

OEM CPU

weary galleon
#

Ah

#

3500X the Chinese one I think

#

OEM that was sold as retail in China

#

Interesting

#

No SMT

woven horizon
#

I thought surely someone was going to bid me up further than that. Was very surprised I won it.

weary galleon
#

Yeah I didn't even notice the SSD at first and it still seemed like a great price

woven horizon
#

Its going in a budget build and getting sold. Probably with a 5500xt or similar GPU. It will sell 250-300

#

Ill make about $40....maybe

weary galleon
#

Damn

#

Harder to markup budget builds?

woven horizon
#

Its also my hobby. Budget builds also go to kids or adults that otherwise wouldn't be able to get it. I wont sell to someone that I can tell has the cash to spend more. Those people get the mid range stuff that I have a better mark-up on

#

Edit: Just hard to buy bulk "used" GPUs and people not be asking new price on them. SlimeAngry

weary galleon
#

Yeah bulk is gonna be scalpers and crypto miners lol

woven horizon
#

Yeah but they have already made their money back. My buddy mined meme coins and made hundreds of thousands, lets say he made enough to buy his house.

weary galleon
#

People who hopped onto ETH a bit too late gotta either sell their cards close to what they bought em or take a big loss

obsidian wigeon
#

that's exactly me

#

i hopped into mining late

#

dad doesn't let me sell tho lol

woven horizon
#

OOF no kidding

obsidian wigeon
#

it's a bummer since value will keep falling

#

value of the rig

woven horizon
#

Mine Meme coins,

cyan ravine
#

Doge to the moon

woven horizon
#

NO just NO

cyan ravine
#

Twittercoin when Elon

obsidian wigeon
#

i merely use doge because of its fast transaction

#

i want my earned money fast lol

woven horizon
#

Is the l9x65 going to be enough to cool the 12100f?

cyan ravine
#

9ix65?

#

I mean whatever it is it'll do it

#

Oh the noctua

#

Oh yeah more than enough

woven horizon
#

Solid.

#

Yeah the wife is getting the stock cooler.

#

Bought a tray cpu without a cooler because I bought a NIB one from newegg

#

and had the cooler laying around "l9x65"

tawny fiber
#

Aorus master 3060ti worth upgrading over strix 2070super?

potent portal
#

3060 ti is basically a 2080 so I'd say no

mossy venture
#

2080s

cobalt sundial
#

Microsoft is suck

#

Who's with me

potent portal
#

I don't think anyone here would disagree

cobalt sundial
#

Woooo

potent portal
#

But it's an unfortunately necessary evil

cobalt sundial
#

We have to man

#

We have no choice

#

7 is better

mossy venture
#

8 is worse

cyan ravine
#

7 ate 9

mossy venture
cyan ravine
#

Well since you asked, 3 for 5 👉

empty pollen
tawny fiber
#

Hmm I see

tawny fiber
empty pollen
#

next jump form a 2070s should be 7900xtx

#

3080 is a lil upgrade (not worth on my opinion) and everything else higher than that just fall into xtx range

#

maybe 6800xt if below or near 550usd, that could be a sizeable upgrade from a 2070s

#

3080 way too expensive for what it is rn

mossy venture
#

3080 would be worth imo

#

Or 6800xt

#

Anything less isn't worth unless a very good deal

fossil cedar
mossy venture
#

With a 4090 and 10100 at 1080p

empty pollen
#

good boi

mossy venture
#

My monitor is 4k down scaled to 1080p. TN and 60hz

empty pollen
#

lawl cyber monday deals are here yaaaaay.... they are exactly the same as black friday ones -.-!

cyan ravine
#

Tmw so cpu bottlenecked ur barely hitting 144 fps anyway

empty pollen
#

really egg?

mossy venture
#

4090 doesn't get enough fps at 4k so I have to downscale

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
empty pollen
#

we need you on the dark side pato

#

13th gen gang

mossy venture
#

I've still gotta list my cpu and mobo when I get home

#

Hopefully hws won't insta remove my post again

#

I think ima just list the whole tower with what's inside for like $150

#

Cpu and mobo alone are worth that so it should sell quickly

fossil cedar
#

Yeah that's nice

fossil cedar
mossy venture
#

What's left is a 3600, crappy b550, very dusty cooler master n400, 224xt, and rmx 650

#

I've also a spare 1660 I could throw in, but I'm not 100% sure it works. I've gotta throw it in my main pc and check

fossil cedar
#

Why you leaving psu?

#

That is worth way more than 150 tbh

mossy venture
#

I dont have much spare room atm, I've too many boxes and crap in my room

#

And I highly doubt my psu will die, if it does odds are it won't just be psu that dies

mossy venture
fossil cedar
#

Yeah I'd do 200 or so

mossy venture
#

I'm hoping to sell it locally, and not many people live near me

fossil cedar
#

Ahh, try get 200 tho imo

mossy venture
#

So I'm hoping low balling it will incentives someone enough

#

Ig

fossil cedar
#

What psu you getting now then?

mossy venture
#

The case is basically unusable though, there's a good few screws missing and the case is insanely dusty

#

I've a gt 850 from B stock

fossil cedar
#

Ah nice

mossy venture
#

Hoping it'll play nice with a 50 series or 60 series gpu

fossil cedar
#

Fair enough

empty pollen
#

if the power efficiency trend from the 4080 continues, then you should be covered for the next 2 gens

cyan ravine
#

I haven't looked but I would expect the 4080 not to have gross transients

#

So I agree

#

It they went for the whole series to be more psu friendly that would be dope

empty pollen
#

it doesnt as some reviewers said

#

operate at 280-300 and the peaks are at 330-340 tops

cyan ravine
#

Pretty power curve

empty pollen
#

its a helluva efficient card

cyan ravine
#

Shame the price is dumb

empty pollen
#

yup

#

4080 is all around an incredible card

#

sad price tho

#

at 1k it would be the logical choice, even over the 4090

#

but... we will have the 4070ti at 1k according to the rumors xD

#

which is dumb as well

cyan ravine
#

Wonder how true that will actually be considering how slow 4080's are moving

empty pollen
#

still moving anyway... slow but moving

#

thing is, the 30 series is moving as well, which is the thing that nvidia value the most rn

cyan ravine
#

Well yeah

#

30 series went up recently

empty pollen
#

if they price the 40 series below 1k the 30 series will stop moving

cyan ravine
#

Def related

empty pollen
#

its a... power move

cyan ravine
#
  • leaves *
empty pollen
#

man ill be pretty sad if the xtx ends up scalped

#

and i think it will

cyan ravine
#

Yeah don't hesitate for XTX

empty pollen
#

i wont

#

ill be at launch time ready for the cart button and all the payment info ready

#

however bot software tend to be faster D:

fossil cedar
empty pollen
#

dont think so for at least 3 months

#

to prevent refunds

#

besides they are poised to launch the 4070 or 70ti in january

#

there is no room for a price cut on the 4080 without hurting the 4070

#

or the 30 series

fossil cedar
#

Hmm maybe

empty pollen
#

if the xtx fail to beat the 4080 then forget any price cut at all

#

amd need to win

fossil cedar
#

Inb4 4070 actually only 600$ lol

empty pollen
#

rumors point at the 4070ti at 1k

fossil cedar
empty pollen
#

me 2, but not the first time when amd promise one thing but deliver another

#

so as always, truckload of salt with amd performance charts

fossil cedar
empty pollen
#

could be that the 4080 12g will become the 4070

#

and they will turn on some cores to justify 100usd more

#

who knows

fossil cedar
#

I think it's gonna be the ti but with a few less cores than planned

#

Imagine 4080 12gb 900, 4070 ti 1000 stonks1

empty pollen
#

yeah could be, jensen is mad anyway

#

but

#

they could plan a double launch like the xt and xtx

#

4070 and 4070ti at the same time

#

900 and 1k

#

bam!

fossil cedar
#

Nahh

empty pollen
#

we will see the 1k version with 8.5k cudas instead of the 7k on the 4070 12gb

fossil cedar
#

700 and 800 i think

empty pollen
#

either way both will be sad cards

merry spindle
#

Best site for a win 10 key?

#

Is it g2a?

#

Oh alright

#

How do I find which Drive is assigned to which device? I have a 500 GB SSD, 2 TB SSD, and a 2 TB HDD, but one of them is showing only 500 MB is available, so I think I need to format it

#

Nevermind, figured it out

woven horizon
#

I sold all 5 of the pcs I had ready today. pepehmmm

analog pulsar
#

🤔

upper tusk
#

at 4k 5600 and 6800xt /5700x and 6800xt will have the same performance for gaming only right?

empty pollen
#

yes

#

5700x and 5600 are basically the same for gaming

mossy venture
#

Well, there could be a difference in some games

#

Not a huge difference though, mostly in games where the difference won't matter

empty pollen
#

plus at 4k games are gpu bound most of the time

mossy venture
#

Ye

upper tusk
#

@mossy venture so 5700x, fs140, 6800xt and 850psu thermaltake gf1 will work no issue

mossy venture
#

Yes

woven horizon
analog pulsar
#

Lol

upper tusk
analog pulsar
#

I habe 2 more things to sell myself

upper tusk
woven horizon
#

Silicon power sticks are $40 for 16GB, latency’s are better than the team group kit at 44.

merry spindle
#

Does anyone know how to use the iCUE plugin for OpenRGB. I'm pretty sure I did everything correctly, but the SDK Server can't detect iCUE

severe hull
#

Good afternoon gents.

I recieved recommendation to get a amd 6600 but I think I want to stick with Nvidia. Want to make sure the 2070 2060 can be used with this set up

nocturne cradle
cosmic yoke
#

um

merry spindle
#

This doesn't seem right?

#

10% usage, but at 59C?

analog pulsar
merry spindle
#

PC, mid tower

#

R7 5800X3D

#

if it matters, DeepCool gammax 360mm

obsidian wigeon
#

59c is completely normal lol

merry spindle
#

At 10% load?

obsidian wigeon
#

it is

merry spindle
#

Also, I just noticed, but my front fans aren't spinning

obsidian wigeon
#

any kind of load makes a desktop cpu boost so

merry spindle
#

I think I set my fans to smart?

obsidian wigeon
#

it's fine

#

i'd only worry if it gets upwards of 70-80c

#

with so little load that high of a temp isn't normal

#

but your case seems fine

#

as long as it isn't running very hot idle or throttling under load, it's all good

#

nothing of concern

merry spindle
#

Aight

obsidian wigeon
#

i would suggest changing the fan profile or adjust the fan curve though

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if you want to see lower temps

merry spindle
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BIOS side? Or is there some software I can make use of?

obsidian wigeon
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bios would be the safest approach

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there's stuff like fan control i think, kinda forgot its name lol

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it's on github

nocturne cradle
obsidian wigeon
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The entire list is not good, honestly

nocturne cradle
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can you make a list for me? I have an $1800 budget

obsidian wigeon
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Sure, is it for gaming or?

nocturne cradle
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yeah

obsidian wigeon
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And do you want rgb?

nocturne cradle
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yeah

obsidian wigeon
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Alright, gimme a minute

nocturne cradle
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kk, thanks much appreciated

obsidian wigeon
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Here's your list

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If you prefer nvidia I could do it for you, though if you want the GPU new it'd likely have to bump down to 3070

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Which is way slower than 6900XT

nocturne cradle
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ah kk, thanks! much appreciated

south cliff
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@potent portal I finally got my usb and put windows 11 on it

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How do I set it up

obsidian wigeon
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how did you put windows on it?

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used media creation tool?

south cliff
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Ye that’s what I meant

obsidian wigeon
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if you did that all you have to do is to plug it into your pc

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and turn the pc on as you normally would

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it should automatically boot into the install media

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if not you can get into bios and change boot priority

south cliff
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Well I know how to do that my computer broke yesterday and they told me to get one

obsidian wigeon
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ah, so where do you want help with?

south cliff
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Let me see if I can find the conversation yesterday so you can kinda see what is happening

obsidian wigeon
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Ah

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Yeah falcie has it said well

south cliff
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How do I do it lol

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I’m on the recovery screen

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Because it just automatically takes me there

obsidian wigeon
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Have you installed windows yet?

south cliff
obsidian wigeon
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Stuff falcie mentioned was just for installing windows on an existing drive with windows on it

south cliff
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This is what it looked like yesterday

obsidian wigeon
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hm, well i honestly am clueless about this lol, sorry