#building-and-recc-chat

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steep merlin
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so

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also its mostly for my coding projects

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a bit of gaming

vital pelican
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Is it safe to

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Run my pc with the panel off?

obsidian wigeon
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yes

vital pelican
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Apparently I screwed up my cpu and my dram

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According to my motherboard

potent portal
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Make sure the memory is clicked all the way into the slot

obsidian wigeon
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^

vital pelican
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Anything seem wrong?

vital pelican
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What slot I use

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For my gpu

obsidian wigeon
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nope, it doesn't

vital pelican
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Alright

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I’ll try again then

potent portal
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You have them in 1 and 3

vital pelican
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I took. My cooler off

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Now I can’t put it back on I think I’m missing something

potent portal
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The backplate fell off

vital pelican
potent portal
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The backplate is just behind the motherboard

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You probably need to pick up the board to get to it

vital pelican
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Bro

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The board is completely screwed and plugged in 😭

potent portal
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Screws are easy and you can leave the plugs

vital pelican
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Oh I see what you mean by backplate

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Your right

potent portal
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I usually put the cooler on before I put the board into the case for this reason, unless it has its own bracket

vital pelican
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I had done that

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But I wanted to check my cpu

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Since something was wrong

potent portal
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Understandable

analog pulsar
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@fossil cedar what ram would you get then???

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It seems I have a buyer and I'll be able to get aorus mobo

analog pulsar
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Like what are we doing keeping the ram or upgrading to DDR5 🤔

drowsy zodiac
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Or 360?

cyan citrus
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wave I've got a need for a recommendation on a X790 board. I've got:
Intel 13900K
RTX 4090
GSkill 32 GB (2 sticks) @6000MT/s
1000 Corsair PSU

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who are we trusting these days on boards for the X790?

obsidian wigeon
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z790? those aren't even out yet

cyan citrus
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Hrm. I thought they were out already

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😦

obsidian wigeon
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z690 is newest you can go

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which should support 13th gen with bios update

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many z690 boards has flashback

cyan citrus
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Ok. Well, in the case of preorder -- who are the board mfgs of choice these days? I want something with PCIe 5 for the card and m.2 of course

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I have a use case to stay bleeding edge. I do a LOT of benchmarks and we are seeing a somewhat solid amount of reduction with the 690 boards

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so the 790 is likely overkill/pointless for most. But that's not my case

obsidian wigeon
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Can't really say without reviews

cyan citrus
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also, I'll be reviewing PCIe 5 PSUs, etc.

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I've been using Aorus boards for a few generations, and I feel like it's an area where I might at least look around a bit...

obsidian wigeon
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Aorus is almost always good

proper ether
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whats the difference between wifi 6 and 6e

obsidian wigeon
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6E has an extra band

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6GHZ

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6 has only 2.4 and 5

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6E has 2.4, 5 and 6

velvet yoke
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My newest desktop has 6E

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Alas my wifi system is only WiFi AC.

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But it's 4x4.

obsidian wigeon
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The extra band merely exists because 6 ghz band isn't very widely used yet

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So there's very little inteference

velvet yoke
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I have an 8x8 sitting in the box.

earnest olive
obsidian wigeon
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wait, they're out now?

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i don't catch the news much lol

earnest olive
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13th gen has been out for more than a month you think z790 wouldn't have launched yet?

obsidian wigeon
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ah fair enough

earnest olive
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yes they've been out for a while

vital pelican
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guys

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pc turned on

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now its telling me to select proper boot device

obsidian wigeon
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then it's working fine now

vital pelican
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holy

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wow

vital pelican
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nothing else

obsidian wigeon
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yes

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you can use a sata drive but ssd is best to boot from

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and install os on

vital pelican
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im not sure how to select as a boot device

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but as long as i dont have to buy something else

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its hard to believe that tiny m.2 has everything i need

vital pelican
obsidian wigeon
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did it accept your input to select the drive?

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if it does then it's working like it should

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just needs to install an os

vital pelican
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i go to bios which i dont know how to navigate and select nvme

sleek ore
vital pelican
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oh i see the problem

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i forgot to buy a windows usb

autumn wolf
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@woven horizon im the opposite rn, i have an itx case waiting on a mobo

steady remnant
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hi

fossil cedar
analog pulsar
remote haven
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my friend just got a Tuf gaming motherboard Z790 Plus WiFi D4, and a i9-13900k, does he need to update bios? he’s getting blue screens, at first it was memory, i told him to swap it out and that went away but another one came up that says “system thread exception not handled”

woven horizon
fossil cedar
analog pulsar
fossil cedar
analog pulsar
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Plus 13600k can do like 5.1Ghz

analog pulsar
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Hm

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@fossil cedar well only reason we going DDR5 is bc the mobo I want rn it's $200 that's $160 off it's MSRP rm

fossil cedar
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Ehh that mobo is constantly 200

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I mean z690 a pro ddr4 is like 160

analog pulsar
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I don't want that

fossil cedar
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Any particular reason?

analog pulsar
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This mobo was $200 before

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Idk why its $50 higher

fossil cedar
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Yes but the ram costs way more

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But any particular reason you want the aourus like?

analog pulsar
fossil cedar
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I cannot help if you don't answer the questions....

remote haven
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just installed the mobo and cpu and booted

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now this

analog pulsar
fossil cedar
# remote haven no

Would very highly recommend doing a fresh install of windows 11, basically mandatory to do a fresh windows install when you swap motherboard, also make sure their ram is in slots 2 and 4 from left to right, tell them to turn xmp off too, but yeah bios update is a good idea too

remote haven
fossil cedar
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Np

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I mean up to you but some ddr4 alternatives that are decently priced are gigabyte z790 gaming x, nzxt n5 z690

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@analog pulsar ^

analog pulsar
fossil cedar
analog pulsar
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The website said it didnt

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Also so did floppa

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ill just get this kekw

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oh nzxt added buttons

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? this is amd mobo

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That's one expensive one

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Brb

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I think ddr5 build was $800 something this build is only $674

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My work is making us work Saturday so I'll just earn $65 extra dollars to get mobo

fossil cedar
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Whatever you want

analog pulsar
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@fossil cedar what is performance jump from 13600k to 13700k 🤔

fossil cedar
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analog pulsar
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Okay

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So just gaming 13600k is fine

mossy venture
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I'd say way more than fine

analog pulsar
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Lol

mossy venture
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I'd be fine pairing a 12400f with a 4090 for 4k

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13600k with anything at 1440p will do more than fine

analog pulsar
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oh

upper ore
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Does it matter if I get a m.2 without a heatsink?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
upper ore
fossil cedar
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The top slot has a heatsink anyway

upper ore
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Which slot would my boot drive go to? Because this one that im getting will not be my boot drive.

analog hearth
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top

upper ore
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Crap

analog hearth
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top slots are usually the fastest. they usually have the latest PCIe version, while the lower slots are sometimes the previous PCIe version

upper ore
analog hearth
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you won’t run into any problems. it would only really matter if say you had a PCIe 4.0 drive but you put it in the 3.0 slot. if it’s a 3.0 drive, don’t worry about it

obsidian wigeon
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problems won't be stability

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just limited speed

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it just kinda defeats the point of using 4.0 drive on 3.0 even tho it works completely fine

upper ore
analog hearth
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it would be ideal, but it’s not required

upper ore
obsidian wigeon
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ya

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top is 4.0

upper ore
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What all will the slower boot drive speed limit?

analog hearth
analog hearth
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ah. it’s for WiFi

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I’m blind it literally says it 💀

upper ore
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And I won't be using it lmao

upper ore
analog hearth
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the MP33 has speeds of 1500 to 1800 MBps. PCIe 3.0 goes up to roughly 1000 MBps

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if you wanted my advice, I would say to just change the boot drive (the 3.0 drive) to the 3.0 slot and put the new 4.0 drive in the 4.0 slot

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the boot times will probably be marginal, and loading screens probably take up the same time as boot times (assuming the same drive), but you’ll come across loading screens more often

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so, the 4.0 drive will have 4.0 speeds, therefore quicker loading times than a single boot time that’s probably already quick enough

upper ore
analog hearth
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ye. put that in the 4.0 slot

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you’re not losing much performance by changing the 3.0 drive to the 3.0 slot

upper ore
analog hearth
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oh then yeah for sure swap the slots

upper ore
analog hearth
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I’m sorry I misread when I was reading about PCIe speeds. so, that PCIe slot is a gen 3.0 slot (that is, the one I’m recommending you switch your boot drive to). I believe that slot has two lanes, and PCIe 3.0 can go up to 1GB per second per lane. there are two lanes on the 3.0 slot on your motherboard, so that actually puts it at a maximum of 2GBps. your MP33 can go up to 1800MBps. therefore, you wouldn’t see a difference if you swapped the slots

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sorry for the long paragraph lol

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and, the 4.0 lane supports 2GBps per lane, and there are 4 lanes on that slot. so, 8GBps, and the 850x I think does around 7.3GBps(?)

upper ore
analog hearth
upper ore
analog hearth
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ye that’s how it’s intended to be used

upper ore
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So do I need to get a heatsink for it since the 3.0 lane doesn't have one on the board?

analog hearth
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the 3.0 slot has a heat sink

upper ore
potent portal
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Heat sinks don't matter for 3.0 drives anyway

analog hearth
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shows it on the box

potent portal
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It's only certain 4.0 drives that get hot enough to actually benefit during extremely large transfers

potent portal
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Fairly hot, if you're doing 100+gb transfers

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(that's 100gb at full speed too, so copying from one 4.0 SSD to another)

upper ore
analog pulsar
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how tall is this

elfin flame
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Kenzie, for future reference of Freedom Units:

' indicates feet/foot
" indicates inches

analog pulsar
potent portal
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3 feet, 5 inches = 41 inches = 1.04 meter

analog pulsar
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Oh so it's X and X = X

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Okay

paper summit
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Omg kenzie

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Did they not teach u this in school😭

analog pulsar
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It's somewhere in there I just don't know where

paper summit
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UGHHHHHH tube at the top i dont wanna take it apart again 😭

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Kenzie sais its ok💀

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But i dont think 55 at idle is ok

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When my room is cold

potent portal
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That's a mount problem if anything but what's your load temp?

analog pulsar
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I mean just don't let pump touch but with how aio goes I don't think its gunna be able to touch

upper ore
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paper summit
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Drawing 120 watts

paper summit
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I didnt take the block off while moving it

brittle spindle
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Can any ram work on any motherboard as long as it supports the speed?

empty pollen
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the mobo must have the correct socket

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ddr4 for ddr4, ddr5 for ddr5, and so on

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once you pass that check both your mobo and your cpu should support the ram kit speed

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if not then your kit will underperform, it will work nonetheless

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but as long as the socket is the right one then the ram should work

brittle spindle
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Ok I see

fossil cedar
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For example intel says their cpus support up to 3200mhz for ddr4 but it can go way higher

empty pollen
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yup, ppl around here are very helpful to guide you on certain kits if they can be compatible with your cpu or not

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and/or an upgrade, downgrade or sidegrade

brittle spindle
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I want to get a 5600 and 3060 will a 500 watt psu be fin or should I upgrade

empty pollen
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it will be fine

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550w will work as long as it is a good quality one

fossil cedar
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Probably not

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What country you in?

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I don't know of any decent 500w psus so technically in theory but in reality no

empty pollen
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5600 and the 3060 should suck as much as 350 both

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550 should cover it

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or at least i think that

paper summit
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If you're not using rt or nvenc than try going for 6650xt or 6700

brittle spindle
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The psu I have isn’t that good but it’s been running for a 3 years

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I would usually go with amd but I found the colors to be better on Nividia

empty pollen
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rt on onything below 3080 is almost non existant or non relevant anyway

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not worth the fps drop

paper summit
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Unless u have some weird color preset

woven horizon
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MEH i have a 3070ti, its fine on my machine

brittle spindle
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Yea the nvidia control panel got me better colors than using amd, I just used the slider for digital vibrancy

paper summit
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Oh so just higher saturation lol

analog pulsar
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could we do it

paper summit
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Buy

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Expensive b660

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But its pretty

strong raft
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I got the $100 pro creator one from asus, lol. Seemed like a solid value.

analog pulsar
ornate condor
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Newegg have asus prime b660 for 100$

analog pulsar
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Send link

ornate condor
analog pulsar
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Okay

ornate condor
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Anyways my question was is 13600k better than 12700k ?

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12700KF for 300$ or 13600KF for 275$ hmm

analog pulsar
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@fossil cedar would the 13600k be okay on the asus prime

ornate condor
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You'll need bios update hmm

analog pulsar
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If I get cheaper mobo I can maybe get the monitor its just the pc won't look pretty

ornate condor
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Prime mobos are good PepeBean FedoraTip

fossil cedar
analog pulsar
paper summit
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Hehe my b550 does

analog pulsar
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Bruh

fossil cedar
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Yeah most b550 boards do but asus decided not to on lga1700 for some reason

paper summit
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Strange

analog pulsar
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Or asrock

paper summit
analog pulsar
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No

paper summit
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Lol

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Ive never used them

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Its just funny

analog pulsar
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@fossil cedar the only really thing I was on a mobo is for the io slots to have that sheild over them personally for me makes the mobo look nicer

fossil cedar
analog pulsar
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Ik but I had nzxt before and I don't like there nzxt cam software to control the RGB

paper summit
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🤦‍♂️

analog pulsar
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There software is incorrect

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It was my gpu was 0C

paper summit
analog pulsar
fossil cedar
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Use openrgb or something

analog pulsar
analog pulsar
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What mobo is it that does

fossil cedar
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Also am sure open rgb or some other offer would work

analog pulsar
analog pulsar
fossil cedar
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I'm aware lol

analog pulsar
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Hm

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$159

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What about the B660 version of this m9bo

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Oh letters

fossil cedar
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Doesn't have flashback

analog pulsar
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A and P

analog pulsar
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12th

wintry crow
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there any good Pre built black friday deals for 3060ti build?
or is it still way cheaper to build my own?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
wintry crow
analog pulsar
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@fossil cedar also sips isn't very pleased with nzxt bc they let cpu go up to 115C before thermal throttling kicks in

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I looked at it on my z590 mobo it's bc of how bios is set

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There default value is 115C

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@fossil cedar how are asrock mobo generally

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I found one for $109

ornate condor
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Cheap b660 asrock = trash

analog pulsar
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It says it has bios flash

woven horizon
ornate condor
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You need bios flash plus

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To update bois without cpu

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Q-flash plus

analog pulsar
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I have cpu

ornate condor
analog pulsar
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Yea

ornate condor
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So any b660 mobo would work ? Whats the problem

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Or do I missing something ? thonk

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Why you guys looking for bios flashback thonk

fossil cedar
wintry crow
wintry crow
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i can do up to 1,200$ as well.

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
ornate condor
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Isnt prime b660 better than this one ?

wintry crow
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max 1,299

analog pulsar
fossil cedar
ornate condor
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@fossil cedar why is flashback important thonk

fossil cedar
ornate condor
wintry crow
fossil cedar
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Okay

analog pulsar
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@fossil cedar you said no o0ne of the asus mobos have bios updatge

ornate condor
fossil cedar
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Apart from maybe strix

analog pulsar
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Would that change things

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I thought you need button to update it

ornate condor
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No if you have 12th gen cpu to boot it , you can update bios and then put 13th gen so . Qflash bios is not necessary I think

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Idk maybe I missing something on this gen

wintry crow
ornate condor
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That's what I did with my z690 mobo

fossil cedar
analog pulsar
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Hm

ornate condor
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I updated my bios with 12900k and then put 13900k . Easy

empty pollen
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tomorrow is the big day pato, you excited?

wintry crow
ornate condor
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Shopppinggg cc cc

empty pollen
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ofc ma dear

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tomorrow is the day

ornate condor
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I love shopping cc

empty pollen
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crossing fingers for a discount on the 13600k

ornate condor
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I saw 13600kf for 275$ but

fossil cedar
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And then there's just people you are brainless Nvidia fans

empty pollen
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green team go brrrrrrrr

fossil cedar
ornate condor
fossil cedar
wintry crow
empty pollen
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thats ma boi

ornate condor
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I personally had hard times with 6900xt when it came out

fossil cedar
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Yeah only thing it's not as good in is ray tracing but tbh RT isn't worth it

empty pollen
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in doom it is

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but then again.... its doom

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you can safely trade 100fps out of the 500

fossil cedar
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Best RT game is Minecraft but it's the bad version of Minecraft lol

wintry crow
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i can see reflections in the water super clear! beanup

ornate condor
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Games without RT looks like at minimum settings pepesus

ornate condor
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So 13600k better than 12700k ? hmm

empty pollen
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by a long shot

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so much cache

wintry crow
ornate condor
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For gaming I know 13600k is king but what about render performance

empty pollen
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you got me there

ornate condor
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12700k have 2 more P cores but 13600k have more e cores

ornate condor
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Lets check benchmarks

ornate condor
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alright 13600k have more single core and more multicore performance as well

empty pollen
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13600k is comparable to the 12900k

ornate condor
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lets hunt some 13600kf then PepeBean FedoraTip

ornate condor
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or not wait

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nvm its not Concerned_Pepe

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rip my 600$ 12900k that I bought a year ago lmao

empty pollen
ornate condor
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well 13900k is game changer

empty pollen
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or the 13900ks next year

ornate condor
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thats how intel catched up with amd I guess . 12th gen i5 better than 11th gen i9 and 13th gen i5 better than 12th gen i9

empty pollen
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14th gen is scheduled for early 2024 anyway

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or so the rumors says

ornate condor
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rip lga1700 platform lol

empty pollen
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and that will be a beast

ornate condor
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amd needs 8000series cpus next year lol

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or they cant catchup with intel

empty pollen
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x3d 2nd version incoming

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7600x3d, 800x3d and 900x3d

ornate condor
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personally I dont think it will be game changer couse very small surface area of cpu , its verry hard to cool it

empty pollen
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heard those will go up to 192mb cache size

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we will see

analog pulsar
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@fossil cedar oooo it's still in warranty until 2024........sorry about this I did this last time I keep forgetting warranty comes with products I thought like if you buy something and it breaks you have to buy another one

empty pollen
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kenzie plz

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omg

analog pulsar
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But

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How is gigabyte customer service

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And there RMA

ornate condor
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I wish amd was good as their announcements lol I see tons of comments under that live like " intel destroyed " "nvidia destroyedd" and laughing like yeah wait for actual product lmao

empty pollen
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gigglebyte da_heck

ornate condor
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gigabyte have trash products but they have fast rma

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I think I got my 3080 back under 2weeks

fossil cedar
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okey

vague oracle
analog pulsar
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Really

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How does RMA work will they accept if I caused a problem

weary galleon
analog pulsar
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Hm

wintry crow
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noooo

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got an amazon link?

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its not, oof.

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it available anywhere else? if not got another recommendation?

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ahh newegg has one for 330

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ill take it.

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this is the correct one right?

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wouldnt i want the warranty with IPS?

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dont want entier thing to have Bleed and get screwed.

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i dont care tbh, if it works ill take whatever.

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just worried when it comes to IPS

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if its fine, shoot me a link to the open box version or whatever.

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i just want the best looking monitor with the best colors tbh.

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if it gets over 120fps im fine.

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i mean even 144hz would work for me, as long as it has the best color quality.

fossil cedar
wintry crow
fossil cedar
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its a sick deal

wintry crow
fossil cedar
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qhd means 1440p

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its an ips panel

wintry crow
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oh lmao

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dont see a MHZ it at least 144?

fossil cedar
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its 144

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hz

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not mhz

wintry crow
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ms?

fossil cedar
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ms is marketing BS

wintry crow
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you sure? LOL?

fossil cedar
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absolutely

open ferry
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I got 3060 Ti 2 fans last year. Couldn't built a system. Now I want to go ahead and build with NewEgg. I already purchase CPU Ryzen 9 7950. I am naive about cooling and all. Budget 3.2k no tax state. https://newegg.io/43b2bbb - pls tell me how can I get white cabinet compatible with cooling, I want to stack all ssds (which good deal).

fossil cedar
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the advertised one is a mode youd never wanna use

wintry crow
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its actually crazy i can get 2 of these HP monitors for 300$ 💀

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any recommendations on Keyboards?
crazy black friday deals or anything?

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i have no idea lol.

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is 100$ cheap is 50$ cheap. i dont know.

mossy venture
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Keychron k4 is a great 96% keyboard

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Have one myself and absolutely love it

analog hearth
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Royal Kludge is amazing if you’re on a budget

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they have more than just 60% keyboards lol

wintry crow
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tkl

analog hearth
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I might foam mod my TKL RK

wintry crow
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i hate loud switchs, but i dont want mushy.

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no bump at the end preferably.

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so prob silent linear.

analog hearth
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the linears

wintry crow
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if people can hear my keyboard through a mic i'll break the keyboard LOL

analog hearth
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ye that’s why you foam mod and lay the keeb on a desk mat

wintry crow
#

that sounds great.

#

and LED?

analog hearth
#

yes

wintry crow
#

link

analog hearth
wintry crow
#

wireless?
do i need to charge my keyboard? 💀

analog hearth
#

ye but you can use it wired if you prefer

wintry crow
#

phew, yeah ill do that.

analog hearth
#

wireless is via 2.4GHz and Bluetooth (if that matters)

wintry crow
#

never gonna use it, all good.

analog hearth
#

lmao

wintry crow
#

somehow my PC build turned out to be an all white build.

#

im not complaining.

analog hearth
#

lmao now you’ll have a white keeb too

wintry crow
#

shhhhh, your bias is showing.

#

but ok send link

#

i love me lubbed switches

analog hearth
#

I kind of agree though. Keychron makes better quality keyboards. I thought i’d mention RK because they’re great for budgeting

wintry crow
#

so smooth and quiet.

#

man why are height adjustable desks so expensive.... am i actually gonna have to make my own ikea one

#

v.v

#

none of you got some good desk suggestions do you?

analog hearth
#

I need a new desk

wintry crow
#

man it sucks i actually have to get Height adjustable....

#

6'7" struggles.

#

yeah but look at the reviews.

#

they're literally just cardboard on a height adjust stand

#

idk, imagine something being quality made in 2022.

#

sigh.

#

yeah but i was thinking of getting a heigh adjust desk stand, then buying soild wood piece on Ikea or something

#

might be able to make one for like 350$

#

need desk itself to adjust sadly.

#

guess ill be on the floor until i find a desk lol.

#

the real issue is a Desk chair, they literally dont exist for people as tall as me.

#

alright, ty.

analog hearth
#

I need a new desk chair

wintry crow
#

wow that looks clean

#

getting that.

analog hearth
wintry crow
#

if its cardboard its cardboard ig.

#

lmfao

#

that gives me some comfort then.

#

damn, my first PC coming together nicely. all i need now is a chair.

#

either way thanks for the help, truly based.

#

no confusion.

#

in the end got 2 monitors for the price of 1 gigabyte.

#

😎

#

white pc build

toxic schooner
#

Does anyone know how to do a bios update

#

Just installed a new motherboard and new cpu

#

Tuf gaming motherboard Z790 Plus WiFi D4

remote haven
#

Tuf gaming motherboard Z790 Plus WiFi D4

#

king stop being 😤

toxic schooner
#

@remote haven Hola amigo

remote haven
#

wassup foo

#

@elfin flame help him pls

remote haven
wintry crow
remote haven
#

tbh i’m so high king idk if i’m of any help

#

go buy flash drive make sure it’s at least 8gb

toxic schooner
#

I can't find what I need to download and don't have another pc. So currently have to rely on a friend to do it that lives near me, think you could help by giving me a link ?

open ferry
#

I got 3060 Ti 2 fans last year. Couldn't built a system. Now I want to go ahead and build with NewEgg. I already purchase CPU Ryzen 9 7950. I am naive about cooling and all. Budget 3.2k no tax state. https://newegg.io/43b2bbb - pls tell me how can I get white cabinet compatible with cooling, I want to stack all ssds (which good deal).

toxic schooner
#

Okay

toxic schooner
#

13th Gen

#

Not sure

#

Intel Core i9 13900K

empty pollen
#

imagine a z790 needing a bios update to work with a 13th gen

analog pulsar
toxic schooner
#

Okay, yeah I'm not really experienced with this stuff

#

I appreciate it

#

I guess the issue mostly is the blue screen I'm getting when booting up

#

Yes

#

I was currently on windows 10 before switching motherboards. Would I need to just re install windows 10 or get windows 11?

#

Alright

#

Yes please

#

Alright thank you

mossy venture
toxic schooner
mossy venture
#

That sounds fine

analog pulsar
#

Oooooooo

mossy venture
#

Thats more expensive than normal

steep merlin
mossy venture
#

Its normally $300

steep merlin
#

oh

mossy venture
#

Yes and no

#

One second

#

I'll grab you a better build

vague oracle
#

…wrong link

analog pulsar
mossy venture
mossy venture
analog pulsar
#

309

analog pulsar
steep merlin
mossy venture
#

Yes

#

Only downside is smaller ssd

#

But 30% increase in gpu perf

analog pulsar
#

But I could go pick it up tommorow from bestbuy

mossy venture
#

And can add a 2tb hdd for $40 very easily

analog hearth
#

go for the better GPU. SSDs are cheap

mossy venture
#

Or 1tb ssd for $60

steep merlin
#

hmm

#

however if i buy from bestbuy i will get like $50 cashback

#

also i can do $40 financing from bestbu

mossy venture
#

The 3060 ti build has much better perf though

#

30% is a huge difference in real world performance

steep merlin
#

right

analog pulsar
mossy venture
#

Went up to $310 ig, but I also would never spend $340 on a 13600k when the 12600k is $224

#

Kf anyways

analog pulsar
#

I was looking for k processor might have to go without gpu for a little bit

steep merlin
fossil cedar
steep merlin
#

eh

#

i dont really trust refurbished tbh

fossil cedar
#

okay then grabbed the non refurbed one

analog pulsar
#

okay its not 309 its 314

#

also its "coming soon"

analog pulsar
#

Nevermind

dim forge
#

that 5600 is cheap af and I have a 25$ coupon, but I need smt with iGPU bc I can't buy a proper one rn

#

😭

merry spindle
#

When installing an AIO with the radiator at the top of the case, is it better to have the pipes coming out from the waterblock towards the front of the case, or towards the back? I saw a build video with the pipes coming out towards the back of the case, and the pipes kinda hang close to the rear fan, which makes me feel uneasy

stoic island
#

Doesn't matter

#

Pipes are more resilient than you might think and fan blades are typically not that sharp

merry spindle
#

Aight thanks

analog pulsar
#

@fossil cedar @cyan ravine ahhh I got the money yall cpu tomorrow omg omg ahhhh I'm so excited I can't breathe

languid nimbus
#

inb4 all sold out

#

no more cpu

warm cave
#

woop

vital pelican
#

@drowsy zodiac

languid nimbus
#

I’d like to suggest a m.2 nvme

stoic island
#

It's kinda messy

vital pelican
stoic island
#

Ventus 3x 3080 at 1050$ is way too much, should be like 750$

vital pelican
#

why is aqua here

stoic island
#

Ram is wacky

#

Vengeance 3200c16 hasn't been well priced in a long time

vital pelican
#

64 gigs of ram!?

stoic island
#

And with that kind of budget you should be able to afford like 3600c16

#

The storage situation is a mess

#

Primary storage could be like 2tb P41 plus

#

HDD storage could be like 4tb x300

vital pelican
#

mix and matching brands

#

making ,e hurt

#

but the 64gb of ram is crazy

merry spindle
#

Can an ASUS rgb fan go into an MSI motherboard? If so, can I control it with MSI's RGB software? If not, how about some kind of universal RGB program?

stoic island
#

Openrgb

vital pelican
#

what

#

yes

stoic island
#

No rgb is best rgb though

vital pelican
#

you may be able to control it in bios

#

but there are softwares for that

little osprey
#

Someone give me a link to a good motherboard for a Ryzen 9 5900x

#

Not overpriced

#

Not tryna spend 400$

vital pelican
#

asrock

little osprey
#

Ryzen 5600x with a 3080 is insane

#

Ok

drowsy zodiac
vital pelican
#

hows your build

drowsy zodiac
#

good bro working on it rn

#

i need help

drowsy zodiac
#

so my case has a controller on the back for the fans and stuff and there’s a cord with a tag called pwm where does that go on my mobo?

vital pelican
#

pwm?

drowsy zodiac
#

yes

drowsy zodiac
#

so like a system fan header?

stoic island
#

Ye

drowsy zodiac
#

does it matter witch header or nah

stoic island
#

Nah

vital pelican
#

is it for one fan or all fans

drowsy zodiac
#

ok cool thanks

vital pelican
#

it doesint really matter

#

just curious

drowsy zodiac
warm cave
#

3D rendering

#

Sorry

vital pelican
#

oh ok

warm cave
#

I use bolth CPU and GPU applications

vital pelican
warm cave
#

But my CPU is super lacking for rendering times

warm cave
vital pelican
#

good heavens

warm cave
#

I'd opt for more.

#

I actually have Most of the components already in another computer. Just minus the mobo, cpu, aio, M.2...And new case?

#

All the rest is an upgrade

little osprey
warm cave
#

I'm just not the most savvy, and wanted opinons

vital pelican
warm cave
#

I'm also slightly worried about power supply?

#

It looks like I'm below my wattage. but still

vital pelican
#
little osprey
#

That’s for the Ryzen 5000

vital pelican
#

too much and youll kill your pc

warm cave
#

Should I be safe within the range that I have?

brittle spindle
#

Will my frames increase if I upgrade from 8gb to 16gb ram, and also a ryzen 3 2200g to a ryzen 5 5600. My guess is yes but how big of a frame boost will that be

vital pelican
#

next wattage you can get is 850

vital pelican
#

but whats the rest of your build looking like

#

whats it or

brittle spindle
#

I have a 1660 super also

drowsy zodiac
#

GUYS I DID IT

#

I DIDINT MESS UP

#

BIOS BOOTS

#

EVERYTHINGS GOOD

#

Or 360?

#

LOL

#

hey hey

#

i need to cable manage now ngl

#

this looks awful

languid nimbus
#

Good luck

drowsy zodiac
#

i’m so excited right now

languid nimbus
#

Funnest part

#

Hope you have zip ties

drowsy zodiac
#

i do

#

lots

#

LOL

#

Shoutout to everyone who’s helped me find parts and everything means a lot!@fossil cedar @cyan ravine @elfin flame @mossy venture

vital pelican
#

do you have windows

drowsy zodiac
#

no i’m gonna cable manage first then boot windows

vital pelican
#

i made the mistake of forgetting to get a flashdrive lol

drowsy zodiac
#

oh yeah i got one ready to go

vital pelican
#

when i get home im just gonna download off my laptop and transfer

drowsy zodiac
#

just gonna mess w some the cords make the front look pretty and the back look disgusting then yeah ima boot windows

vital pelican
#

is your mobo flashing red at u

leaden mauve
drowsy zodiac
#

nope

drowsy zodiac
#

my memory is terrible

leaden mauve
#

💀

#

dont

warm cave
drowsy zodiac
#

ohhhh

vital pelican
#

if your total power is under 730 then youll be fine

#

your psu will take it like a man

warm cave
#

it seems the very TOP usage I can do is 771. Am I reading that right?

#

Corsair 850 platinum. RTX 3080 10g, and I9 13900fk

#

I don't usually overclock at all

still roostBOT
#
ThunderHamz#7168 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

warm cave
#

Woops

#

I just don't want my station to crash on me when using all 32 threads for rendering. Or using all my cuda cores etc

#

I just do rendering lol

#

So

#

That's dope. I don't have brains for stuff like that, so I just make visual stuff lmao

#

I'm currently in CG school. But I make all kindsa stuff

#

My latest render

#

Thank ya 🙂

#

Man..I'm not sure. I actually have to pick that major soon. It's pretty much a choice between film and video games.

#

And then a subchoice on what I want my focus to be there-in

#

And I have to pick in like..18 days, and I still have no idea, lmao

#

Working on a little backpack boi atm

stoic island
#

man I really need to get a phone with better battery life

#

I was editing a list

warm cave
#

Kiiiinda.

#

Once I pick a "Path" I can't go back and change.

#

Since they use different software and stuff.

stoic island
warm cave
#

why change in uhh..Mobo?

#

I'm not very knowledgeable in pc parts

stoic island
#

250$ might as well go z790 instead of z690, it doesn't change much, just no uncertainty from if you need to update bios or not

warm cave
#

Man. I'm so sorry, I feel dumb. So I shouldn't have to update bios with that Mobo?

strong raft
#

Correct. Might as well go ddr5 tbh unless price on 64gb is crazy. Ddr5 helps MT quite a bit in some tasks.

warm cave
#

That's the reason for it.

#

I actually have everything BUT the M.2, mobo, cpu and AIO

#

So it's basically the best choice for those at this point

analog pulsar
drowsy zodiac
#

terrible pic but i fixed the cord dangling in the front

#

take some better pics later

drowsy zodiac
#

got rgb ram too but you can’t see that

merry spindle
#

For a DeepCool GAMMAXX L360, do I use DC or PWM mode?

hasty socket
drowsy zodiac
#

hey so i have a wifi mobo how do i get the wifi to work lol

stoic island
drowsy zodiac
#

do yk @stoic island ?

merry spindle
#

Does the BIOS know if the cooler is capable of PWM? Or is that just a thing for all coolers?

drowsy zodiac
#

hey @elfin flame do yk how to get wifi on my pc i got a wifi mobo

stoic island
#

5600 doesn't have nerfed l3 cache

stoic island
merry spindle
#

gotcha

stoic island
#

the 4th pin is the pwm pin, if you set it to pwm mode, bios does stuff with signal via the pwm pin

#

if it can't do pwm, the fan will just run at full speed with no control

drowsy zodiac
#

yes how would i install them though? on a usb?

stoic island
#

never a need, but their budget can allow for 1000$, since previous list was 1200$, and I'd like to get them 3060ti

#

I just prefer giving 3060ti option

#

could do 6700 or go down to 6650xt if they really want to save that money

drowsy zodiac
#

hey i need help

#

do i use a usb to install the drivers

#

no

#

okok cool

#

it’s ok

elfin flame
#
stoic island
#

and basically the same thing as the 3060ti option

#

except case with more stock fans

hasty socket
#

So what would I need to do cause I’ve never built my own pc before

#

Cause I’m liking the list that I just heart reacted

obsidian wigeon
#

Nah, it's not a problem

#

You can update bios without needing the cpu

#

Just put bios file on usb stick and plug it into flashback usb port

#

And press flashback button

drowsy zodiac
#

easy i just did it first time building a pc!

#

flashing bios was the easiest part, hardest part in my opinion was getting my cooler on🤣

#

actually nah easiest was popping my ram in

obsidian wigeon
#

putting things together first time is easier than taking things apart first time in my experience

drowsy zodiac
#

wouldn’t doubt it lol

hasty socket
#

So if I have Newegg build the pc for me do you think they will install it all?

mossy venture
#

No, they do not have a building service anymore

brittle spindle
#

I want to upgrade my mb to support a ryzen 5000. Should I just get the newest patch or should I just get the one where it starts to support ryzen 5000

stoic island
#

Newest stable update

brittle spindle
#

How do I know if the update is stable?

#

Is there anything else I should knowledge before updating a motherboard, I will have everything plugged in and I will watch a video on how to flash a bios but is there someone that you guys recommend to disable for example xmp

stoic island
#

updating bios? don't need to do anything else

#

Bios flashback takes renaming the bios file, just flashing through the normal way through bios you don't need to rename the file

brittle spindle
#

Ok thanks guys

rain goblet
#

hi guys i have a question
i just got this mobo ASRock B450M PRO4 R2.0 AM4 AMD
but i have a ryzen 5 5600g
will it boot out of the box?

hasty socket
#

I’m honestly just scared I’ll mess something up tbh. Unless there’s a decently priced pre built

drowsy zodiac
#

also youtube vids help a lot

hasty socket
#

Even if y’all have a prebuilt y’all would recommend I would even go that route

analog pulsar
#

@fossil cedar how much more performance is the 13600k or should I just save money and go with 12600k

empty pollen
#

12600k vs 13600k is like day and night

analog pulsar
empty pollen
#

if you have the money go 13th gen, they are way superior on single core and multicore

#

13600 is comparable to the 12900

#

ew 300 for the 12600

#

egg have it at 240

analog pulsar
#

That's why I look on best buy

fossil cedar
empty pollen
#

and 340 for the 13600... thats highway robbery

analog pulsar
#

Lol

empty pollen
#

hey pato, this will be the last time i bother you :3

#

600, mobo+ram+cooler+cpu :3 pretty plz

analog pulsar
#

@empty pollen the cheapest k processor is on b and H BUT it's "coming soon" and Amazon out of stock and wegg has 13600k for $319

#

Why no black Friday PepeHands

empty pollen
#

black friday hehe

#

wait for cyber monday then

analog pulsar
#

it even was $300 last week

#

Memory C is sad

analog pulsar
strong raft
#

Yea 13600k was recently $280ish. I wouldn't pay any higher. Lower option than that is 12600K when $220-230. 20ish % price difference is solid.

analog pulsar
#

Okay

#

I'll wait ig

empty pollen
#

so if i were to buy rn.... 13600kf at 305 or 12600kf at 240?

analog pulsar
#

If microcenter still on sale after work I'll drive there

#

It's like $270 buy in person

analog pulsar
#

is this gift worth it

empty pollen
#

its a gift so...

severe hull
#

How do you add pictures 😫

analog hearth
#

level up

severe hull
#

O wow

analog hearth
#

and then you can upload photos

severe hull
#

How do you level up

analog hearth
#

talk

severe hull
#

Lmao

#

Unbelievable

analog hearth
#

I mean I don’t make the rules

severe hull
#

I wanted to post a screen shot of my son's pc setup and ask what's a good recommendation on a graphics card upgrade

empty pollen
#

you can build your setup on pcpartpicker

analog hearth
empty pollen
severe hull
#

That was fast lol

#

I've already upgraded the ram already that helped but now I'm looking to up the graphic card

empty pollen
#

how much are you willing to spend?

severe hull
#

Not really worried about the money but from my understanding I have to put a graphic card that can be handled by the rest of the pc

obsidian wigeon
#

we gotta know about the power supply

empty pollen
#

kinda, speaking of which that pc need a complete overhaul

#

and the psu as well, need to know which one you have

severe hull
#

Honestly not ready for that . It's been running really good for what he plays

obsidian wigeon
#

the pc seems fine honestly

#

looked up how it looked

#

it's skytech sure but the case actually seems to be mesh

severe hull
#

P550b

obsidian wigeon
#

ah nvm it ain't

#

but it's not bad

empty pollen
#

he can pretty much run into a heavy bneck on any 6000/30 series

obsidian wigeon
#

the psu is fine, c tier

#

yes, but if his son runs limited fps to the monitor's refresh its probably plenty fine

analog hearth
#

I would think a 3060 or something equivalent. then save a bit for a better CPU

empty pollen
#

hmm true

#

i would say 6600 too, and save for a better cpu down the line

obsidian wigeon
#

GPU first then cpu and case later

empty pollen
#

5600 is kinda cheap rn

obsidian wigeon
#

rx 6600 is a decent start

empty pollen
#

the cpu btw

severe hull
#

Why does the case matter

empty pollen
#

i will try 6600 for a gpu and 5600 for the cpu if your wallet allow

obsidian wigeon
#

just in case for future upgrades

analog hearth
obsidian wigeon
#

but even if you put in better cpu it's fine honestly

#

5600 doesn't run hot

#

perhaps a little loud

empty pollen
#

cheap as well

#

and pretty capable

severe hull
#

How about rtx

#

It's what I know as far as numbers lol

empty pollen
#

overpriced for what it is

obsidian wigeon
#

rtx gpus aren't really good value

#

radeon is where you get bang for your buck, especially lower end

empty pollen
#

radeon cards can do the same as rtx cards for a 100usd less most of the time

fossil cedar
#

More even

#

530$ 6800xt

empty pollen
#

vs a 3080 at 750$

#

yup

severe hull
empty pollen
#

and comes with 2 games

#

👍

#

if you can get a ryzen 5600 down the line, that will be a big upgrade to that system as well

#

big big

fossil cedar
severe hull
#

Thats the cause right

#

Cpu

#

The ryzen 5600

obsidian wigeon
#

yes

#

ryzen 5 5600

empty pollen
#

cheap, capable and a big big upgrade over the 2600, just so you know for the future

severe hull
#

What's the difference between that graphic card

#

I screen spotted this convo

empty pollen
#

there pal

severe hull
#

I might do a 2tb ssd and the 6600 for Christmas then his bday is in January so I will do the cpu

empty pollen
#

look for yours on the green side and for the 6600 in the red side

#

thats a rough comparison

severe hull
#

Sheesh

#

Surprised his little 1650 runs so good

#

Just to confirm this fits I'm the case

empty pollen
#

most likely

severe hull
#

Lol

#

Why makes it not fit

#

As you can tell ima newb

#

Only got into it for my kid

#

I'm not even old I just suck with pc lol

#

I'm simple series x with a monitor

empty pollen
#

ehhh it will fit

#

using your photo as reference, it will fit any 2 fan card, 3 fan cards no

#

you can also google the size of the gpu and measure your clearance on the pc with a tape

warm cave
#

Howdy builder folks. Does anyone have any recommendations for some nice PMW fans?

empty pollen
#

p12s

wheat locust
#

Good day everyone, I hope everyone had a great holiday yesterday. I have a question. Last time I was here, I had asked for build advise and I recieved a few build ideas. One thing I'm curious about is that in all the builds, even if the motherboards could support more ram, each build only had about 16gigs installed. Why is that? If the board can support 128gig, why not install 128gig?

warm cave
#
empty pollen
#

yeah any p12 variant is very good

#

argb and non argb

warm cave
#

Sweet. What do rgb headers usually plug into?

empty pollen
broken gorge
#

128 gb ram is insane lol

empty pollen
#

you can run 16gbs on a budget, 32gb as the sweet spot, anything above that should be justified (content creator, video editing, cad... etc) because the more ram you put the more difficult for your controller to handle, and that will result in a lose of performance

#

you can put 128gb if you want and your budget allows, but that would mean lower performance if you cant justify it

#

most games are pretty comfortable at 16gbs tho

empty pollen
warm cave
#

Ahhhhh nice

broken gorge
#

would you know a fix to my motherboards power connector randomly coming out

broken gorge
#

I checked like 10 times to make sure it was on correctly

empty pollen
#

not without some more info, like pictures

wheat locust
# wheat locust That makes sense. Thank you.

New question. Since I'm now aiming for 32gb of ram, is it better to install 4 8gb sticks or 2 16gb sticks? Other than cost, is there a major performance difference between ddr4, ddr5, and ddr6? My goal here is to build a pc that will last awhile. My currenty pc is going on 7 years so its time for an upgrade.

fossil cedar
#

2x16gb unless you're upgrading from a 2x8gb kit that you know what die (ram chip) it uses and can match that.

#

Ddr4, 5 etc are just generations of ddr (double data rate)

#

Ddr6 isn't a thing yet so if you see that it's probably GDDR6 or GDDR6X which is vram for your gpu (graphics card)

#

Honestly you probably won't want to hold on to a pc for seven years usually you're better buying for mid to high end now then in 3-4 years upgrading the gpu for example to a newer mid to high end gpu, will probably work out the same or cheaper than just getting the most expensive thing you can now and it will be outperformed by something way cheaper in a few years

wheat locust
fossil cedar
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Ah okay it's not really 7 years old then 😛

wheat locust
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Mb was

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Thanks for the help, I'll post my build idea once I look at some more stuff. Is there any performance issues if I have an amd processer and nvidia gpu?

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Is it better to just go with amd with everything?

shut rampart
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obsidian wigeon
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yes

little osprey
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Okay, I've got a very, VERY basic question, being pretty dense when it comes to building computers, or upgrading them:

Assuming I were to get a:

  1. GOLDEN FIELD GPG750 Power Supply 750W Full Modular 80+ Gold Certified Computer PC ATX PSU 5 Years Warranty ( https://www.newegg.com/p/1HU-016G-00015?Item=9SIB30PFND8303 )

And a:

  1. MAXSUN GeForce RTX 3080 iCraft OC 10GB GDDR6X 320-Bit Computer Video Gaming Graphics Card (https://www.newegg.com/maxsun-geforce-rtx-3080/p/1FT-009J-000B8?Description=rtx 3080&cm_re=rtx_3080-_-1FT-009J-000B8-_-Product&quicklink=true )

...could I plug them into a custom PC that can already run the likes of Cyberpunk 2077, DOOM Eternal, and Borderlands 3 without any issues? Or would I need to upgrade the motherboard, too?

fossil cedar
little osprey
fossil cedar
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You in the US?