building-and-recc-chat

[cyan ravine]

There is for power delivery

[proper ether]

No idea what that is

[empty pollen]

the amount of power the gpu eats

some are 65w, some are 120w

[cyan ravine]

But between each model the differences can be small in real performance

So for example

[proper ether]

Oh

[cyan ravine]

A 165W 3070 laptop can do as good as any 140W 3080

It depends on cooling, tdp and then sku really

[empty pollen]

felix da man

[proper ether]

Are 17 inch laptops portable

[cyan ravine]

There are plenty of 3080 laptops that are worse than 3060 laptops

Nope

[empty pollen]

ask that yourself

[cyan ravine]

17 inch lappys are generally bulky

[proper ether]

How about 15

[cyan ravine]

And few bags can fit them

15 is very portable as it's a standard size for business

[empty pollen]

he can throw the laptop on the backseat and it becomes portable

[proper ether]

Ok thanks

[cyan ravine]

Think of it like this

[empty pollen]

just saying

[cyan ravine]

You pay 900 less for 2 inches less screen

And you get the compatibility to carry it around in most uses

[proper ether]

good trade off

[cyan ravine]

Ye

That strix is a good deal for a flagship class

[proper ether]

Is Newegg good for buying laptops

[empty pollen]

as long as you buy directky from newegg yes

third party sellers at your own risk

[proper ether]

Is the ryzen 9 good

[analog pulsar]

@cyan ravine I just did some testing and FSR 2.1 is really nice

This is with ultra settings set at 1440p on a 6600

[cyan ravine]

That's not too shabby

6600 brrrrrr

They must've fixed the radeon frame tanking

Unless that's still a thing and was rt only

[analog pulsar]

Hm I can't do RT I get like 15FPS

[cyan ravine]

But honestly who cares RT doesn't really make CP look night and day better

Ultra already looks good enough

[analog pulsar]

Oh no

My gpu no like RT

[proper ether]

Is open box hood

good

[weary galleon]

Depends

[stoic island]

It's like between refurbished and used

[empty pollen]

its a gamble, but you accept the gamble for the price

you can get a brand new unit or a beaten up unit, some scratches here and there

so good or not is up to you

[potent portal]

Sorry I was making dinner for the fam, looks like you found the issue though. You can bend the pins so they're not touching any more and block off the port so you don't accidentally use it.

Good thing you have more 10gbps ports, it would suck if that was one of like 2 high speed ones

[proper ether]

which is better 12900H or 5900HX

can someone compare these two https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-rog-strix-scar-15-g533qs-ds94-gaming/p/1TS-001A-06EM1?Item=1TS-001A-06EM1
https://www.newegg.com/off-black-asus-rog-strix-scar-15-g533zm-es93-gaming/p/N82E16834236100?Item=N82E16834236100

[potent portal]

Better at what? Overall I'd say 12900h
I would never spend $1700 on a laptop with a 3060 though

The GPU power is the same so the difference there is only in the core, and the 3080 has a much stronger one

[proper ether]

?

is the one with the ryzen better for gaming

or are they both bad

why do the ryzens have lower core amounts

[potent portal]

The one with the ryzen and 3080 is better for gaming

Core counts don't matter for gaming but the 5900hx is a second tier chip anyway, 5950hx is above it

[proper ether]

would you say its good for $1800

[potent portal]

Looks like that's a decent price currently yes

[uneven sleet]

I found out that my motherboard only has two fan headers one is connected to to the CPU fan and the rear fan is connected to the other fan header but I have 3 fans in the front how do I connect them if the board only has 2 fan headers please ping me

[obsidian wigeon]

Get a fan hub

[potent portal]

Or a splitter cable

[potent portal]

https://www.amazon.com/SDTC-Tech-Splitter-Extension-Adapter/dp/B07N1T8NJ2

[proper ether]

do laptops come with 2 gpus

[potent portal]

Some of them, sort of

[uneven sleet]

Thanks

[proper ether]

why

are two gpus better

which gets used

my friend claimed it came with two

[potent portal]

One is probably integrated into the cpu for low power stuff like browsing, and the other activates when doing higher intensity stuff

[proper ether]

oh

[potent portal]

It's a power saving trick

[proper ether]

is there a difference between these two

other than the release date

why does newegg have the same laptops for different prices

[potent portal]

Different sellers usually

[proper ether]

theyre both sold and shipped by newegg

[potent portal]

Tick the "highlight differences" thing on the top left and double check there's no differences

[proper ether]

for some reason that highlights everything

i checked it myself cause that wasnt working

[potent portal]

Untick "recommendations" on the top right

[proper ether]

ooh

thanjs

well

the 2100 one can upgrade to windows 11

but the 1800 one released later

[empty pollen]

models

[potent portal]

They both can upgrade to 11

[empty pollen]

ds94 and ds96

[proper ether]

yeah theyre different models

but they have the same specs?

[empty pollen]

visually identical but different models

keep looking, maybe they have some differences somewhere

[proper ether]

um

[potent portal]

Here's another one you can consider if you want to save a little, it's got more memory and a 3070 https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-001A-07SU1?Item=9SIA6V6JAR8204

[empty pollen]

make a deep search, things like that man

we can point you in the right direction but things like that must be done by yourself

[proper ether]

ok

[empty pollen]

you know as the saying goes "give a man a fish, he will eat for a day... and so on"

[proper ether]

no i dont know that saying

[empty pollen]

give a man a fish, he will eat for a day... teach a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime

is a good quote

pretty popular too

[proper ether]

omg yes i understand that

[cyan ravine]

Yeah, or try to be true techie and repair

I had to go to work so that's on hold for now

[potent portal]

You want to desolder it and put a new one in be my guest

You can never trust those pins again now that they're bent

[cyan ravine]

Oh is that how bad it can be

Well sh

Thank GOD it's not the bios port

[merry spindle]

Is the ASUS TUF GT301 good for a front mounted 3 fan radiator with pipes down?

Or is that not possible?

I hope it's possible, I may need to return if it can't

[obsidian wigeon]

i don't think it fits 360mm on front, but lemme check

hm actually it does

what do you mean by pipes down btw?

[merry spindle]

The radiator positioned with the pipe entry on the bottom

I heard if it's at the top, it's bad for the AIO cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

It's actually the opposite

You're better off having pipes on top

Bottom won't fit

There's a shroud on psu basement, not sure if you can remove it

[potent portal]

Makes no real difference in practice, you just don't want to bottom mount a cooler with a pump in the block

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[merry spindle]

So a position like this is largely fine?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[merry spindle]

okay

[obsidian wigeon]

others that says otherwise has no clue on how to correctly install an aio where pump is in the block

directing to wherever you got that info from that is

[potent portal]

This is the only way to do it wrong on most AIOs, note the radiator is below the block

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[potent portal]

The one in your pic is fine because the top of the rad is slightly higher than the block

[potent portal]

And tubes down is only better because of bubbling noise, performance and life is identical to tubes up

[obsidian wigeon]

imo either second or third way in jayz pic works just perfectly fine

[stoic island]

they're both fine

[merry spindle]

I guess my case won't support jayz number 3

Oh well, if jayz number 2 is perfectly fine, then I'll go with it

[potent portal]

Most don't, because AIO tubes aren't long enough

[obsidian wigeon]

maybe, test fit it if you want

but it's usually not the case due to pipe length like falcie mentioned

[merry spindle]

that makes sense

[potent portal]

Especially once you have the gpu in

[brittle spindle]

can someone help me see if this list is good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[potent portal]

The real link will be above the list on the left, that just links the builder

[brittle spindle]

oh sorry

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XZXGDq

[potent portal]

You'll want a different case and ssd

Other than that looks pretty good

[brittle spindle]

the case is like a personal thing but if there something techical thats wriong with it?

[potent portal]

We have this emote for a reason

[brittle spindle]

hmm

i did hear about this

[potent portal]

It's a hotbox, doesn't let the cpu get cool at all due to poor airflow

[brittle spindle]

how about a aio for the cpu

or doesnt matter?

but 5600 doesnt need an aio tho

[potent portal]

The intake is almost totally blocked off, no air gets through an AIO

[brittle spindle]

oh

ok what about that ssd

[potent portal]

Swap that for a MP33

[brittle spindle]

ok what would you recommend for the case?

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/64MTwP/team-mp33-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6001t0c101

[brittle spindle]

is the mp33 pro worth it for the 8 dollar diff

[potent portal]

P400a, G360a, 4000D airflow, there's a lot of good ones. Anything with a mesh front really.

There's a minor bump in performance for the pro, not super noticeable but it's there

[brittle spindle]

ok ill go mp33

also is the cpu and mb fine

because ik i have to update the bios but is that a big issue?

[potent portal]

Updating isn't a big deal, you can do it without even turning it on

[brittle spindle]

using the q flash?

i plug in mb to 24 pin ig then q flash

how about this https://www.amazon.com/NZXT-H510-Elite-Dual-Tempered-Water-Cooling/dp/B0B6XWXL4W/ref=sr_1_1?crid=W4V7XDH9N4WC&keywords=h510%2Belite&qid=1668834690&sprefix=h510%2Belite%2Caps%2C109&sr=8-1&th=1

[potent portal]

If you really like the H510 then at least do the H510 Flow so your cpu doesn't hate you

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yM2WGX/nzxt-h510-flow-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h52fb-01

[brittle spindle]

hm

[cyan ravine]

Ok time to find out if I've royally wrecked that usb port or not

[hasty socket]

Hey all! So I bought a prebuilt PC awhile back from Newegg. Loved it but sold it and wanting to build my own and not sure how to go about it tbh. I mainly play WoW, but I’d like to be able to stream and record. Can someone point me in the right direction to go for this. I’d like to try and keep the budget under 1k possibly

[fossil cedar]

Assuming you're in the US, personally I'd try to stretch your budget to $1050 by doing this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MGhrXy
But if not this works too but personally I'd stretch if possible for the 6800xt and nicer power supply over just the 6800
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zfVXNc

@hasty socket ^

[hasty socket]

@fossil cedar so question, is Radeon better than Nvidia? Or what’s the real preference on it cause I’ve always heard people say to go with Nvidia

[fossil cedar]

Neither is better over the other as it depends on a card by card basis but the amd cards destroy the nvidia competition for the price (6800xt is equivalent to a 3080 for like 200$ less and 6800 is a bit under 6800xt) amd has also vastly improved their streaming capabilities with not much recognition so those builds i sent are your best options

[jagged brook]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MYvFMb

i need yall opinion

[analog pulsar]

@earnest olive https://www.tomshardware.com/news/airport-tsa-knife-hidden-gaming-laptop

I hope it wasn't just left there

[upper ore]

Ohhhh it looks like Phanteks is coming out with a new case in the Eclipse series. https://www.phanteks.store/search?type=product&options[prefix]=last&options[unavailable_products]=last&q=G500A I might wait to order a case to see some reviews for it.

[analog pulsar]

@cyan ravine I wanna know how hard there low balling me but I got a dm and they wanna do $200 for mobo and cpu and case

[mossy venture]

I believe it's going to be a p500a without a psu shroud

[fossil cedar]

Amazon germany only right?

[tawny fiber]

It has a psu shroud tho

https://youtu.be/AK1OxhdG-OQ

[jagged brook]

.

nvm

just saw that somebody already replied

[jagged brook]

yuh

[upper ore]

Yeah this thing looks pretty sweet! I wonder if its the same size on the inside as the P500a. Because i would like to vertically mount my Msi rtx 3080 Trio in it without it being choked by bad airflow.

[tawny fiber]

Well the strix 4090 shown in the video is currently the biggest gpu in the world and it handled that like a champ

[upper ore]

But its not vertically mounted but yeah i see what your talking about

[tawny fiber]

I also really like the rgb light bars all around the case

It's really tastefully done

[upper ore]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088T78MJT?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1 It sucks that they arent doing this color scheme tho

[uneven sleet]

What are some good keyboard below $60 pheripahbaly 60%

[jagged brook]

is it good?

[fossil cedar]

I'd do this, i included 2 cases choice is up to you
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/3Yk39r

[vagrant gulch]

I'm thinking about getting a new gpu, but on the fence over two. Which one would be better?
https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx-6700-xt-mech-2x-12g/p/N82E16814137641?Description=6700 xt&cm_re=6700_xt-_-14-137-641-_-Product&quicklink=true

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3070-rtx-3070-gaming-z-trio-lhr/p/N82E16814137670?Description=msi 3070&cm_re=msi_3070-_-14-137-670-_-Product&quicklink=true

I thought about the Ventus for MSI, but heard that's not guud?

[fossil cedar]

Option 3
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/V4nypg/asus-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-dual-video-card-dual-rx6700xt-12g

[vagrant gulch]

Is it better because of performance and price?

[fossil cedar]

6700xt is a bit worse than a 3070 but the price difference makes it worth it

[vagrant gulch]

I sometimes hear that, but I'll look into it thanks

[fossil cedar]

No probs

[vagrant gulch]

Ok so looking into it real quick, it tends to be loud. Isn't it just because of 2 fans or because it's AMD. I'm coming from an RX580 rn and just want to make sure

[fossil cedar]

It's not that bad you can set a custom fan curve if you want which would fix it and as long as you have a semi decent case like not a h510 it wont be very loud, some people expect their pc to be practically silent as well so

Amd or nvidia has nothing to do with noise

[lament fulcrum]

does the vetroo v5 typically have bad coil whine?

[fossil cedar]

You cant get coil whine in a fan and heatsink?

[lament fulcrum]

well whatever it is when the fan drones

[fossil cedar]

Can you send a video?

[vagrant gulch]

Ok gotcha

[lament fulcrum]

sending

[fossil cedar]

Sounds like normal fan noise?

[lament fulcrum]

I figured out how to adjust the fan curve but this is way louder than 224-xt was

[fossil cedar]

Why'd you sidegrade anyway?

[jagged brook]

is there a big difference in 1080p and 1440p?

cause i was planning on buying 1440p but i can't find anything on a good sale for black friday rn

and there are a lot of 1080p monitors for sale so im wondering is it worth it

[fossil cedar]

it depends, 1080p looks quite pixelly at 27" but looks just fine at 24" whereas 1440p is basically useless at 24"

[jagged brook]

yeah that is what i heard

wait lemme send a limk rq

link*

[fossil cedar]

this is only 230€ and pretty good https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07VJJXDBX?tag=pcp05-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[jagged brook]

i was about to send that lol

wait i have another one

[fossil cedar]

i looked that seems to be the best option for amazon DE

[jagged brook]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/iTek-GGF-2560x1440-IPS-100Hz/dp/B07L8YGNJY/ref=sr_1_67?crid=1EH70RA3ZQ3TB&keywords=1440p&psr=EY17&qid=1668888836&s=black-friday&sprefix=1440p%2Cblack-friday%2C409&sr=1-67

only 100hz tho

there was a 27inch 1440p 144hz one yesterday for $200 but now the price is much higher

i will never forgive myself for not getting that one 💀

[fossil cedar]

oh hell nah

[fossil cedar]

230 is standard nowadays but you might get lucky on black friday /cyber monday?

[jagged brook]

ig

im looking for some cases rn and then i will try to order everything tommorow

[fossil cedar]

you not like the ones i sent earlier?

[jagged brook]

well they're good but im tryna see all the cases and pick one that i like the most

[dim forge]

I hope some good deals pop up on friday / cyber monday

[fossil cedar]

good luck finding better ones under 80€ btw

[woven horizon]

Bro like how....

[paper summit]

Noooooo 😭😭

[woven horizon]

Not mine just an ebay listing

[fossil cedar]

thats so bad wtf

[woven horizon]

Its like the mashed the pins with their finger.

[earnest olive]

mans removed the cpu then dropped the cooler on it

[jagged brook]

i saw a tiktok video about girl putting thermal paste under the cpu💀

and then she sent it to the repair shop and said it doesn't work

[earnest olive]

rookie mistake

[woven horizon]

Got an ITX build coming.
Anything I should add or change?

1TB SN570
512GB 850 PRO
i3 12100f
Asrock B660M-ITX/AC DDR4
Asus TUF RTX 3070
Hyte Revolt 3 ITX case + 700W 80+ Gold psu
16GB DDR4 XLR8

[earnest olive]

everyone knows that's where the mayo goes

https://tenor.com/view/mayo-thermal-paste-cpu-processor-gif-13472622

remember to refresh your cpu's mayo every month, it won't operate correctly if it's hungry

[earnest olive]

can't step it up to an i5-12400f?

[woven horizon]

If the 12400f wasnt 177 yes. BB is the only one I see with it in stock. Edit: Looks like Newegg is in stock now.

[fossil cedar]

you already bought 3070?

also use pcpp smh

[woven horizon]

I have it already bought from a friend for $300

[fossil cedar]

oh nice well slap rest in pcpp saying that you built

[woven horizon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wbMY78

[cyan ravine]

I'd say they'd be lowballing a good 50-70

Depends how much stock you put on a mobo that's damaged

[analog pulsar]

I put what you said too

[cyan ravine]

What I said?

[analog pulsar]

Yea

With hard drive out

[earnest olive]

mobo damaged how so?

[cyan ravine]

The mobo shield screws are stripped or something iirc

It's still functional but ye

[fossil cedar]

cant really do better without going used mobo/cpu

[wild peak]

Should I get a geforce 3070 or an amd 6600 XT

[fossil cedar]

Uh they're completely different price ranges and everything did you mean 6700xt/6750xt?

[wild peak]

Sorry yes, I did

[fossil cedar]

Depends on the prices 6700xt is equivalent to a 3060 ti and 6750xt to a 3070, get the cheaper option

[wild peak]

Ok thanks!!!!

[desert gulch]

60Ti

[fossil cedar]

Sorry yes 60ti

[wild peak]

also, how much power should i get for an estimated 320 watt (minimum) system?

[stoic island]

By whose estimation

[wild peak]

neweggs pc builer tool

[stoic island]

What parts? 550w PSU prob does fine

[wild peak]

rn in terms of cpu and gpu im thinking 6750 xt and an amd 5 5500

[stoic island]

Prob get 650w just in case

Don't want to have to use daisy chain cables

[wild peak]

k thanks

[fossil cedar]

Also 5600 is a way better cpu than 5500

[weary galleon]

go 6core for the cpu if possible

[woven horizon]

It’s all ordered. I considered the r5 5600 but went intel for future proofing. At least I’ll be able to go i9 13900k if I wanted.

It’s just going to be the living room PC.

[analog pulsar]

top slot sd slot screw broke inside the hole and the pcie lock is broke my ODC is tearing me apart about this i just need to get a mobo where i can screw an ssd in the top slot and the pcie lock is not broke it is still functional

[paper summit]

And its only 120 on anazon rn

Only 20bucks more than 5500

[potent portal]

To add to this, it's also good to go up a step for a few other reasons. Power supplies tend to be the most efficient between 60 and 80% load, you'll have room to upgrade later, and you won't be as affected by capacitor aging in the long term since losing 15% power capacity doesn't matter.
If going a little above what you need is in the budget, and it usually is, then I'd do so.

The power is the last thing you want to be cheap in your pc 😉

[woven horizon]

Do not watch if you have light sensitivity.

[stoic island]

Better PSU is always great, but you don't need to be crazy with wattage, you're less efficient when drawing less than a certain point, and extra wattage really doesn't matter much, that variation saves you maybe a few bucks a year max

[potent portal]

Yep no need to go crazy. Getting a 850W when you only technically need 500W is pointless.

[stoic island]

Efficiency curve from a random sf unit for example

[potent portal]

Seems like that one is out of the norm to me, based on 80+ test charts I've seen

But not too far off

[analog pulsar]

I might consider z690 A Pro

[stoic island]

Revo d.f. for example

These charts are from the people that does the 80+ certification

They don't do that many data points

[stoic island]

TPU Aris chart, a bit misleading because bottom is 80% but anyways

[potent portal]

Yeah I guess it's the scaling on the chart that makes it look weird to me

[stoic island]

Yea the scaling in reviews is so you can see the difference between units, it's not that crazy in practice

[analog pulsar]

Is asrock higher end boards good?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FNWzK8/asrock-z690-extreme-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-extreme i was looking at this

[potent portal]

In general they're ok. Not super competitive in price or features.

[analog pulsar]

Well this one is only $200 atm

[potent portal]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asrock-z690-extreme-wifi-review

That's the price the wifi model is supposed to be

[analog pulsar]

I bought gigabyte z690 elite AX one for $200 but now it shifted price up to $250

[stoic island]

Should just get z690-a at that point smh

[potent portal]

Yep we're squarely in the point where things get marked up to make the "sales" look better on black friday

[analog pulsar]

Sad

[potent portal]

The week before is exactly when that happens

[stoic island]

High end ASRock models are like taichi and pg velocita

[analog pulsar]

Will prices go back down after black Friday

[stoic island]

Tbh

[stoic island]

We're at the point where we get pre-blackfriday sales

[potent portal]

On certain items maybe

[stoic island]

Ye

[potent portal]

And at least newegg has BF price protection on some items too

[stoic island]

So average price today is still lower than what the average prices are afterwards

[analog pulsar]

So nzxt z690 is not able to do 13th geb

[stoic island]

Amazon does the same thing on some items

They don't want to get too much load on black Friday

[analog pulsar]

[potent portal]

Yep lol

And all they have to do to justify putting the crossed out price is show it for sale at that price somewhere, even if it's a fake store with everything marked up for that exclusive reason

[analog pulsar]

I say we start a riot

[stoic island]

Tbh that is a sale relative the usual Evo plus price

But the original price is NOT that high

[analog pulsar]

Yea

[stoic island]

Usually Evo plus is like 200$, maybe 180$ at times

[potent portal]

It's $150 on wegg rn

Adorama had it at $110 in July holy hell that's a good deal

[analog pulsar]

@potent portal ive been looking at z790 and z690 and b660 one thing is z790 and z690 both same fan placement at least with b660 i have more tro choose from plus its cheaper mobo lol just doesnt support OCing

Idk 4 fans on bottom seem ew if my fans are on the top

[potent portal]

Most people worried about that are using a hub

[analog pulsar]

Well I could always get a hub but people say spiller would work too

[potent portal]

And if you need more than the 4 headers yes a splitter works, and will leave you with more cable length

[analog pulsar]

Well my case is gunna have aio 3 plus 2 on top and 1 in back

[potent portal]

AIO should include a splitter or daisy chain

[analog pulsar]

Yea

That only leaves the other fans

[potent portal]

Could do a splitter for the top fans if they're not long enough

They're super cheap too

[analog pulsar]

How much power does the cpu pins give off like with gpu it's 150W how much is cpu

[analog pulsar]

Yea I'm just trying to think if way for pc not to look ugly like last time

[potent portal]

A single EPS connector is rated for 336W

That's one 8 pin (4+4)

[analog pulsar]

Z790 from gigabyte has 2x8 pins while the z690 version has 1x8 and 1x4

So z690 should be enough for a 13600k cpu

[potent portal]

That's only a concern for extreme OC

You can push a 13900k to its max on ambient cooling with a single 8 pin

[analog pulsar]

ONLY thing z690 does not have is this

[potent portal]

How often do you plan to be pulling out the GPU though?

[analog pulsar]

And it seems z790 has bigger ssd headsink of the first one

[analog pulsar]

Not much with my new pc but I did it enough in my old bc that it broke

[potent portal]

Most SSDs don't even need the heatsink at all, only certain gen 4 drives that get hot when you write 100GB+ at a time

[analog pulsar]

Or if gpu is blowing hot air into it

[potent portal]

Nope it's the opposite

[analog pulsar]

My ssd got to 65C with my 3090

[potent portal]

The GPU blowing any air over it helps temps more than stagnant air

[analog pulsar]

Wym

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145419?Item=N82E16813145419&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-L_jB21RFOeCuwqCueZJbTg

So I'm guessing there's no point in going z790 if there's really no upgrade

DDR4 mobo and that's same as z690

[potent portal]

Nah literally the only benefit to Z790 (for most people) is slightly faster memory support on DDR5

[analog pulsar]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-z690-aorus-ultra/p/13-145-344 now this was nice price but its ddr5 ram

$200

[potent portal]

DDR5 came down in price a fair bit but kind of annoying if you're reusing DDR4

[analog pulsar]

"Well we were planning to do that" to not spend more money on ram

[potent portal]

Yep just keep in mind then that using DDR4 does hurt 13600k performance a bit in certain things but it won't be too bad

[analog pulsar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dc8XNc this is what cost would be now

[potent portal]

Not bad. Maybe we'll see the cpu price go down a little for sales this week.

And to clarify something, the B660 DOES allow for overclocking, only the CPU multipliers are locked. You can still get way more performance just from increasing power.

[analog pulsar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GL82nt this how much more with DDR5

[analog pulsar]

Oh

[potent portal]

$240 more to go with DDR5, yeah not really worth

You could get cheaper DDR5 too to close that gap but, eh

[analog pulsar]

Yea but that's looks cheap enough I think I paid like $180 for my ram

I don't remember

$160

But I also remember sips saying 13th gen is favoring kinda on ddr5 with it being newer tech anx everything

[potent portal]

It's the higher bandwidth mostly. It more than makes up for the higher latency in most things from what I've seen.

[analog pulsar]

Yea I just wanted to get highest I've seen and that's 6400

[potent portal]

In fact, primary timing latency doesn't seem to matter much at all on DDR5

[analog pulsar]

But I can make some extra cash at work and be able to afford ddr5

[potent portal]

You can clock a 5600 kit to 6400 pretty easily if you get the right one

IE not samsung

[analog pulsar]

My ideal mobo is

It wouldn't need bios update or anything

And I could OC cpu if I wanted

Cpu go brrrrrrr

But OC isn't really needed bc I'm sure cpu is fast at stock

I mean ik I don't need newest tech but would be nice to have

[potent portal]

This is a good kit that's probably hynix so it'll OC well https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl32-memory-flbd532g5600hc32dc01

No RGB tho

[analog pulsar]

Sad

But isn't higher speed better

[potent portal]

There's only a few ICs available right now, it's not like DDR4 where you could get any one of 30 ICs on a 3200c16 kit

[analog pulsar]

Hm

[potent portal]

So the 5600 kits are using the exact same chips as the 6400 kits and all you need to do is increase 2 numbers, maybe 3

[analog pulsar]

That's nice

Ay its Felix 👀

[cyan ravine]

I believe I said this before but as long as you land a certain type of chip underneath you can just dial in a higher xmp of the same kit with the same chips if you want and it works

This works to a point

But like, a 5600 hynix m kit will run 6400 like another hynix m kit

Essentially

Similarly if neither work on that board at that speed then neither would do it

It's interchangeable

[potent portal]

Yep, and the 5600 32-36-36 kit I linked is almost certainly hynix m, and reviewers have said as much

[cyan ravine]

Yep

Mismatched timings on ddr5 xmp's is a high chance of hynix

[potent portal]

Another nice thing about DDR5 is programmable XMP profiles, you can program in you own overclocks to save them if you need to clear cmos

[analog pulsar]

do they have RGB version 👀 I'll look

[potent portal]

Not every stick has that ofc

[cyan ravine]

Rgb hynix tends to be a fair bit more iirc

In the realm of like 40$ or so

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LTcG3C/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl32-memory-ff3d532g5600hc32dc01

[analog pulsar]

Found them

[cyan ravine]

I'm usiny the deltas rn as hynix a

[potent portal]

It's still crazy to me that these run such low voltages

[cyan ravine]

Honestly they look better in person

[analog pulsar]

Nah we need 1.5v ram plz

Hotter better

[potent portal]

You can do that if you wanted to

[analog pulsar]

Lol

[potent portal]

Push it to 7600 c30 at 1.5v easy

[analog pulsar]

Hahahaha

[cyan ravine]

Hynix doesn't really scale past 1.45

[analog pulsar]

That's a bummer

[cyan ravine]

You could but it'll just get toasty

Nah not really a bummer

It's still fast af

[potent portal]

Still that's like DDR4 scaling up to 1.55v

[cyan ravine]

Meh

I mean b die keeps going

[analog pulsar]

Yea

[potent portal]

One of 2 main exceptions

[cyan ravine]

It's the easiest to remember😅

Esp. with ggood tryna bench 1.8V on 5000 APU's

Kek

[potent portal]

There's another 30-odd dies and many don't scale past 1.35v

So DDR5 is off to a good start

Having the voltage controller on stick seems to be beneficial like we hoped

[cyan ravine]

Ddr5 is scaling quickly

Just over a year and already comfortably 8000+

[analog pulsar]

I just hope someone buys my stuff so I can buy this stuff on sale

[potent portal]

It's still pretty new so I don't see that being an issue

If it was 3 or 4 gens old you might have problems

[brittle tinsel]

A buddy of mine has this power supply and was wondering if he could run a 1650 super off of it.
https://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-17-116-038

I cant help him much as I dont know much about using a molex to pcie connector. he should be fine right>

[mossy venture]

It has gpu pier connectors

It says "pcie"

[obsidian wigeon]

That psu does have a pcie connector

[brittle tinsel]

he recieved the computer from a friend and doesnt have those wires as his current card doesnt need pcie power

he does have 2 molex cables however which is why i am asking

[potent portal]

1650 should be fine on an adapter

[brittle tinsel]

our main concerns are just screwing up electronics, he doesnt want to fry his gpu/psu, im not sure about fire hazard with em and such

its a molex to 6 pin needed correct>

[potent portal]

Depends on the model of 1650

[cyan ravine]

I wouldn't use a molex to 6 pin imo

[obsidian wigeon]

it's a 1650 super

^

[potent portal]

Molex is fine, it's SATA that has issues more often

[brittle tinsel]

what other option would there be? you cant mix pcie cables and psus correct?

[cyan ravine]

It's still an adapter and they often come cheap as chips and minimum spec

[potent portal]

You could buy another modular cable to go with the psu

[obsidian wigeon]

nzxt probably has cable kits

[brittle tinsel]

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-G1650VXS4C-GeForce-128-Bit-Graphics/dp/B07QPXT4NG/ref=sr_1_9?crid=301IW8Y45QPNQ&keywords=1650+super&qid=1668918106&sprefix=1650%2Caps%2C163&sr=8-9
this is the card he bought

[potent portal]

Cablemod and moddiy have customs

[mossy venture]

Pretty sure that's pcie powered

Also please tell me he didn't spend $200 on that

[obsidian wigeon]

oh it's 1650

also if he spent 200 on that, he's been scammed big time lmao

[brittle tinsel]

idk how much he spent, I just know that is the card

[mossy venture]

If he spent $200 on that pls have him return it

That's the price of a 6600

[potent portal]

Well if it's that exact model then there's no pcie power needed

[mossy venture]

Or a used 1080

[potent portal]

But I agree with the others, no more than maybe $100 on that gpu

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt even spend that tbh, I see 1070s for that often

[potent portal]

Right, we're really getting to the point where those old low end things are pointless

Unless they're a steal

[mossy venture]

Yeah, i see a lot of 16 and 10 series at similar prices rn

Like, where 1650s are going for $90-110 and 1070s are constantly $125 and under

[cyan ravine]

That floor hasn't moved for a while tho which bugs me

[mossy venture]

Meanwhile that's what, 60% perf difference?

[potent portal]

I sold my 1060 mid shortage for $125

[mossy venture]

I'm about to sell a 1660 for like $80

I've also got a 3600+ mobo and cooler I'm probably gonna give someone a deal on for like $120

[cyan ravine]

I'm about to add a 1650 as a throw-in card for a build fit for a 3090 or better

Free lol

I got someone interested in the 3080, a fren

[mossy venture]

Pog

[potent portal]

I'd use a 1650 for my plex server while still seriously considering upgrading it

[mossy venture]

I'll buy it Felix, just ship it from Australia to the US at your own expense

[potent portal]

Considering it's currently using a Radeon HD 5770 anything is an upgrade for my server currently lol

[cyan ravine]

I'm not paying a 2kg package to usa

Also my work system has a big HDD in it, I'm just using that as a nas rn

1650 really has no place except for like, display testing

[potent portal]

It would be fine as a transcoder or streaming card

[mossy venture]

1650 is about at the point where it's starting to not be enough

[potent portal]

Yeah I've been seriously considering an A380 upgrade

[cyan ravine]

Nah I already got that covered, it's a loud card too

It's a tide over card really

[mossy venture]

I'm staying away from intel gpus atm

Too many issues

[cyan ravine]

Hell I might even just keep it for display test, I gave myself a good reason for that

[potent portal]

Yes but Linux

[mossy venture]

Why do I do this to myself, I have to be up in 6.5hrs

[cyan ravine]

Sell 10850K as a gpu-less rig kekw

[mossy venture]

For an 8 hour shift

[cyan ravine]

Pog

[mossy venture]

I've been keeping my 1660 for a testing gpu but since I have an igpu now it's unlikely I'll need it

[rugged anvil]

they're not too bad honestly

ask @heady kayak

[mossy venture]

Unless my 3060 ti dies in which case I'd be out a gpu for however long rma takes

[heady kayak]

hello

[rugged anvil]

hello buturutus

[heady kayak]

yeah Arc isn't too bad

[mossy venture]

I'm assuming they fixed the issue of it bricking from updating bios

[analog pulsar]

That's what's weird Dr.amd has been using the gpu on certain games one being DX11 and it ran fine

[heady kayak]

I mean, the only way to replicate that is to install a specific vendor driver

and then upgrade to the latest driver

maybe don't do that

[potent portal]

Dang still no word on AV1 for plex, despite tons of requests on the forums. I'm holding off on upgrading it until then. CPU transcode has been... fine

I'm kinda tempted to get a 1650 now so I can meme a 1650+1650 pc

[analog pulsar]

Hahahahaba

[cyan ravine]

1650 sli?

[potent portal]

E5 1650 + GTX 1650

[cyan ravine]

Ah

[frigid night]

What is a good laptop for gaming in the $700 range?

[cyan ravine]

Then get a dtx r3 3300

So you have 3300 and 3300

[cyan ravine]

If you search really hard you'll probably find a 3060 one

[frigid night]

so really anything with a 3060?

[cyan ravine]

And when you do that'll be about it

Yeah pretty much

[potent portal]

For what games? You'll probably be looking used if it's anything more than say csgo

[analog pulsar]

https://youtu.be/R4jTCGkuXyg mini pc go brrrrr

[frigid night]

basically anything that a ps4 can run

[potent portal]

You can barely do a desktop console killer for that budget let alone laptop

[frigid night]

yeah, that is what I was thinking. A friend of mine has an old 1050 laptop and linked a laptop to me that's $700 on amazon, was thinking there might be something else out there.

[analog pulsar]

3050 had some

[potent portal]

Yep there's a couple 3050 ti ones

But that's hardly a console killer

[frigid night]

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Bravo-144Hz-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B09WGLYCSF/

This is what he linked me.

[analog pulsar]

3050 isn't best of the best but at 1080p with 95W of power I'm sure it can get 60FPS in some games

Even turn on DLSS

[potent portal]

Here's an option https://www.newegg.com/acer-an515-55-57c4/p/1TS-000X-02MJ5?Item=9SIACA1HGR3283

[mossy venture]

I've def seen 3060 laptops in that price range

Check r/laptopsales

[potent portal]

Good call, that acer is the best I could find on wegg rn

[mossy venture]

Bro how does the newegg app get worse with every update

[potent portal]

Very carefully

So as to slowly push us back to desktops in a neverending cycle

[mossy venture]

Like they don't address the crap that is actually annoying and just implement something that is slight inconvenient

[obsidian wigeon]

eh

if the tuf deal is still on

$200 more or so is worth it

[analog pulsar]

Check this out on @Newegg: GIGABYTE A5 K1 - 15.6" FHD IPS Anti-Glare 144Hz - AMD Ryzen 5 5600H - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU 6 GB GDDR6 - 16 GB Memory - 512 GB PCIe SSD - Windows 11 Home - Gaming Laptop (A5 K1-AUS1130SB) https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834233534?Item=N82E16834233534&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-34-233-534-_-11202022

[mossy venture]

It's never in stock foxy

Sadly

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

sadge

well that gigglebyte is good

[mossy venture]

I'm debating not sleeping at this point

[obsidian wigeon]

hefty tho since clevo body

but relatively average weight in terms of gaming laptops

[potent portal]

That one didn't pop up when I did the filters so they probably don't have it listed correctly

[obsidian wigeon]

but it's fine for that low of a price

batt life is eh but what can you ask for 730 kek

[potent portal]

130W gpu too that's pretty good

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

the intel version has 105

due to extra heat the 11400h puts out

[analog pulsar]

@fossil cedar found this + free shipping and is 17.32inches

[obsidian wigeon]

only the intel version is available in my country, it's floating at about 800 or so rn

[potent portal]

AMD's really been killing it in the mobile market, too bad they're always sold out

[obsidian wigeon]

the G5

A5 is amd

why gotta it be intel only here smh

[analog pulsar]

Bc intel better for gaming

[potent portal]

Not on laptops

[obsidian wigeon]

no

5600h and 11400h are the same

except the intel is hotter and hungrier doing the same thing

[analog pulsar]

I would know I'm a doctor at gaming

[potent portal]

They're focusing their supply on consoles and handhelds, so laptop chips are rarer

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

it's a bummer

[potent portal]

Can't really blame them with millions of consoles being sold

[obsidian wigeon]

lol ya

laptop sales gets dwarfed

[potent portal]

You can become a real fake doctor of gaming https://www.realisticdiplomas.com/

[analog pulsar]

I hate these deals LIKE WHAT THE HELL $2 GUNNA DO Like save me $10 or $15 plz

[analog pulsar]

[potent portal]

$2 off makes it pop up first on searches vs same price competition

[analog pulsar]

Bruh

Hmm I'm thinking I could have 3x27inch monitors then this ontop of them for movies

4k nice haha

[potent portal]

It would be a shame to get that monitor and not use it for gaming

That's top tier stuff right there

[cyan ravine]

That one doesn't use a standard mount

Also burn-in is a real thing on that screen, FV43U is the real goat if you use it for pc at all

[potent portal]

Set a 5 minute timer for screen blank and you're good

Burn in isn't too bad

What I really want to see next year is 4k240 OLED over DP 2.1

[cyan ravine]

Idk it uses older oled tech

Like c9 or cx? It's very much a case for burn-in, that's why I normally steer away from it

[potent portal]

https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test

"Update 05/31/2019: The TVs have been running for over 9000 hours (around five years at 5 hours every day). Uniformity issues have developed on the TVs displaying Football and FIFA 18 and are starting to develop on the TV displaying Live NBC. Our stance remains the same: we don't expect most people who watch varied content without static areas to experience burn-in issues with an OLED TV."

The 5000 hour update saw very little burn in too

[cyan ravine]

No no, it's burn-in but in primarily static image sections

Gonna reference an LTT vid here since it's this specific display just rebadged
https://youtu.be/hWrFEU_605g

[potent portal]

I could see the static images being an issue if you play the same game for 5000 hours, getting some of the hud burned in

[analog pulsar]

Well the FV43U is va panel

[cyan ravine]

No but like, just having a desktop screen on an oled can cause it

[cyan ravine]

Yes QLED is VA

[analog pulsar]

The TV I showed is OLED

[cyan ravine]

QLED is Samsung's flagship tech that they use (or used to) to compete with LG OLED

[weary galleon]

Reject wallpaper return to screensaver

[potent portal]

Pipes all day every day

[cyan ravine]

Icons and everything still ever present lol

[analog pulsar]

Also if you have a moving playing the image is always moving not staying in 1 place

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/windows00-windows2000-simpler-times-screensaver-pipes-gif-14530365

[weary galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/windows00-windows2000-simpler-times-screensaver-pipes-gif-14530365

[cyan ravine]

OLED gets better blacks, QLED gets better colour, pick your poison

But again my whole point is using it as a pc screen you run the risk of burn in

[analog pulsar]

How about this I pick both I'm gunna cut both screen in half and glue 2 back together

[potent portal]

That screensaver was great because you could actually make it use 100% of your CPU doing super complex scenes

[potent portal]

That's why it's an ideal secondary screen you only turn on to use active content and use another monitor for desktop/discord/etc

[analog pulsar]

But no IPS good enough for me tbh

[cyan ravine]

You could

But you want a constant dynamic wallpaper and no icons, nothing on it

You really want to make it last

Or just a black background

[analog pulsar]

My plan is to have 2x34inch monitors on left and right side going up and down then 2x27inxh going up and down in middle only issue I'm seeing rn is idk if another 34inch monitor gunna get at my desk

[analog pulsar]

Black background nice

[cyan ravine]

I'd just rather get the qled tbh and worry about never having burn in ever

[tawny fiber]

You can do both the oled only for gaming and a normal monitor for normal in desktop stuff

[cyan ravine]

Or just a QLED for both

• shrug *

[analog pulsar]

Or how about this

Nothing at all

[cyan ravine]

Indeed

[analog pulsar]

No burn in then

[cyan ravine]

Let's reject all computers

[potent portal]

Modern OLEDs are much less prone to burn in

[cyan ravine]

Not FO48U specifically

[analog pulsar]

Yea I mean arnt they trying to fix it

[potent portal]

QD-OLED especially is

[cyan ravine]

It's an older OLED

I would know, I spent time researching that one

[tawny fiber]

It's 4k will be pretty hard to drive that is a bigger concern to me

[cyan ravine]

Hence why I have 2 FV43U's lol

Well Kenzie said for movies

Movies is fine lol

[analog pulsar]

Fine I'll just get this

It's only $1888

Cost as much as a 4090

[cyan ravine]

But it does need a TV mount to work for either gigabyte screen

[tawny fiber]

Yes but I have a friend who drives a LG c2 on his 4090 and the fps ain't that satisfactory sometimes

[analog pulsar]

I'll screw holes into the back I'll make this woek

[cyan ravine]

C2 is better

[potent portal]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BBSV1LK5

[cyan ravine]

Try not to hit any boards lmao

PG42UQ is a C1/C2

[potent portal]

138Hz 4k

[cyan ravine]

It's got better oled

[analog pulsar]

Idk

[cyan ravine]

[analog pulsar]

But tv comes with this box thingy

[languid nimbus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RLxvcb buddy sent me this list. Opinions ?

[analog pulsar]

Amd said there 7900XTX can do 8k165hz so I'm gunna test it for myself

[empty pollen]

im pretty sure it can

[potent portal]

Yes do it, put 4x4k screens in extended mode

[empty pollen]

if you play minesweeper

[potent portal]

It's a shame this has firmware issues, could have been great https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-neo-g8-s32bg85

[cyan ravine]

This
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f9mzRv

You need a board with bios flash

B450m-a ii is one of a handful that has it

[analog pulsar]

Obviously this website lying it's best tv they just jealous

[languid nimbus]

Gotcha gotcha. Anything else that he should change? Not sure if that cpu cooler will be enough or not

[analog pulsar]

[cyan ravine]

Actually I changed case in that list look again

The list is fine tbh

[analog pulsar]

@cyan ravine oh btw did you see what I found today

[potent portal]

A 5600 would be fine on the stock cooler provided you're not choking it

[cyan ravine]

I did

[mossy venture]

cpu cooler will be more than fine

[cyan ravine]

Yeah stock cooler works too

[languid nimbus]

Awesome thanks a bunch

5600 comes with stock cooler yeah?

[analog pulsar]

@cyan ravine it's 17.30inches

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[languid nimbus]

Awesome

[cyan ravine]

Nice

[analog pulsar]

Plus free shipping

[brittle spindle]

is a 5600 fine for 3070?

[mossy venture]

yes

[brittle spindle]

is it worth to get 5600x

[mossy venture]

no

[brittle spindle]

ok thanks

oh wait hold on

will there be any bottleneck?

[mossy venture]

yes and no, it's impossible to not have a bottleneck in your system

but the 5600 will barely limit the 3070 in most scenarios where it matters

[brittle spindle]

ok thanks

i also have a list

if u can look at it for me

[tawny fiber]

Maybe in esports titles

I would easily put a 3090ti on that baby

[mossy venture]

3090 ti with 5600 is a fine pairing for 1440p

[brittle spindle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dhcsgb here is the list if u dont mind looking at it

[mossy venture]

i would not buy that case

[brittle spindle]

why

[mossy venture]

it's very bad

solid front

also if you're fine with an amd gpu, 6800xt is the same price for 3080 tier perf

[brittle spindle]

i did orgianlly have a 6800

for 500

[mossy venture]

one sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FJr8v3 changed it up a bit

[languid nimbus]

Oh also as I was just informed, you likely won’t need the other cpu cooler because the 5600 comes with a stock cooler

[brittle spindle]

it is expensive on amazon tho

[brittle spindle]

yea but i think the 20 dollars extra would help with looks and all that

[brittle spindle]

also i switched from a 6800 to 3070 because nvidia is better well optimized for games

like valorant it has the low latency thing

[mossy venture]

ehh, it can be

but that 6800xt will perform better in 95% of scnearios

well pretend like i spelled that right

and coming from someone on a 3060 ti who plays valorant TONS, the low latency is very hard to notice

[brittle spindle]

well i would go for the 6800 xt, butt i want to buy it strictly off amazon

and its about 580

[mossy venture]

I would highyl advise against limiting yourself to one seller, but one sec

yeah there really isnt a 6800xt option for amazon only that will fit in budget

[brittle spindle]

hmm

[empty pollen]

[brittle spindle]

i feel the r5 5600 and rx6800xt will have a larger bottleneck then a 6800 r 5600

[potent portal]

The 5600 can handle a 4090 in most cases

[brittle spindle]

damn

[still roost]

BoppingKids#4688 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[brittle spindle]

bro what

[potent portal]

Long link probably had a bad string of letters

[brittle spindle]

haha

[still roost]

BoppingKids#4688 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

BoppingKids#4688 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[potent portal]

D'oh

[languid nimbus]

brother

[potent portal]

This was the link, and yes there's a wildcarded blocked word https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dJmFf7/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-1

I thought we had the admins fix that...

[languid nimbus]

Ah yes, pe

[empty pollen]

lawl

[brittle spindle]

i got kicked

im back lol

[potent portal]

It happens lol

Got your link for you

[empty pollen]

do it again 😄

[potent portal]

And yes that's a great PSU

[brittle spindle]

thanks, can that psu handle a 6800 xt

[potent portal]

Yep

[empty pollen]

can handle a 6900

[languid nimbus]

Funny how TT makes anything from a pretty solid psu to a literal bomb

[potent portal]

With a low power cpu like the 5600 yes

[brittle spindle]

also i really want to go for the h5 elite https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6Y6NQNF/ref=twister_B0BKVV246Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

worse case scienrio what happens

[languid nimbus]

you call the fire department

[potent portal]

H5 Flow was ok iirc but it looks like they made the vents a little bigger on the side

It's too new, haven't seen a review yet on the Elite

[languid nimbus]

whatever you do just dont get the h510

[potent portal]

[languid nimbus]

^

[cyan ravine]

Worst case scenario you lose 5-10% of your actual true performance

Especially with a 6800XT

[potent portal]

Due to thermal throttling the CPU yes

All the air the CPU can get in the H510 is whatever the gpu spits at it

[cyan ravine]

Oh this is the h5 not h510

[potent portal]

Yeah H5 is new

[cyan ravine]

Ok yeah just the cpu

H5 has that toilet sink

Or whatever

[brittle spindle]

yea lmaoo

[cyan ravine]

H5 flow if you want that look

Just, don't do glass front

[potent portal]

Mesh might not be as pretty but at least then your front fans do more than just spin and look good, they actually work

[brittle spindle]

i mean a 5600 shouldnt get that hot esp with a aftermarket cooler

[cyan ravine]

There are a few cases where glass front works and h5 isn't one

[potent portal]

Cooler doesn't matter if there's not enough air going through it, I've seen 280mm radiators thermal throttle in the H510 due to lack of air

[cyan ravine]

Nzxt cases aren't good choices for glass front

You could pick a 5000X?

Sometimes those go on a nice sale

[brittle spindle]

does the equation change if i say i will add an exhaust fan besides the three already in there?

[cyan ravine]

Nope

[potent portal]

Makes it worse

[brittle spindle]

wait what

hahaha

[cyan ravine]

More fans ≠ more better

[potent portal]

Yeah the front fans are doing next to nothing so all the back fan does is suck out what little air the GPU can suck in

[cyan ravine]

You can change the airflow path to make it less efficient due to eddies and turbulence

Or just a poor direction

GPU gets it's air from the pcie slots so it kinda works

Still gimped tho

[empty pollen]

you cant solve your problems by throwing more fans at them

no no

[brittle spindle]

well how about 4000x

[empty pollen]

why not a ck560 or a g360?

[empty pollen]

bad

get the airflow version

[cyan ravine]

4000x is a miss due to price

[empty pollen]

not only a miss, is pretty bad

[brittle spindle]

i see

[empty pollen]

gamerjesus made a review about that

[brittle spindle]

its a shame honestly that nzxt makes good looking cases but bad airflow

[cyan ravine]

What about hyte y60

Or o11 mini

[empty pollen]

those are expensive felix

😛

[cyan ravine]

Those are functional, not cheap

He really wants glass tho lol

[empty pollen]

ck560

4 fans on it

plus... deepcool

he wants glass?

then 5000x

usually on sale

unlike the 4000x, the 5000 glass front is somewhat functional

[cyan ravine]

Or alternative?

G360a

Where the mesh barely intrudes the look

[empty pollen]

sometimes you have some barely passable ideas

[brittle spindle]

g360a with a exhaust fan on the back?

[cyan ravine]

I'm barely a techie what you on about

[empty pollen]

[potent portal]

The back fan on airflow cases actually serves a purpose, to guide the airflow from the front

[empty pollen]

get some p12s for that

solid fans

[cyan ravine]

Brrrrrr

[languid nimbus]

the 220t is pretty solid too, but not glass front

[empty pollen]

ewww

that thing is another oven

[cyan ravine]

220t airflow is?

[empty pollen]

oh the airflow version, pretty cozy

[cyan ravine]

It's not a great price definitely

[languid nimbus]

yeah luckily I got it when it went on sale for $50 lol

[cyan ravine]

I like it for a case but if it was 10mm longer it would've been so much better

[empty pollen]

im biased to the 5000x anyway... on sale very often

[languid nimbus]

I need bigger case tho

[cyan ravine]

Yeah exactly

It's a bit restricted

[brittle spindle]

any other cases with glass on the front?

[potent portal]

Torrent goes brrrrrrr

[cyan ravine]

The good ones aren't really cheap

[languid nimbus]

But it truly keeps everything cool, my gpu never sees over 60°C while gaming really

[empty pollen]

there are almost none with a frontal glass panel that are good enough

[potent portal]

Did you look at the hyte y60?

[languid nimbus]

As basic as it is I want

[empty pollen]

yea y60 or o11

[cyan ravine]

Y60 would be acceptable as long as your 3070 isn't super thick

[empty pollen]

if he is hellbent on front glass

[cyan ravine]

Or 6800XT

[empty pollen]

you know what else is thick?

[potent portal]

Neither of those are usually more than 2.5 slots no matter the model

[empty pollen]

the 5000x

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-my-mom-shirt-swing-trash-talk-bye-gif-5037821

[languid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/bigchungus-thick-pog-poggers-gif-19979474

[empty pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-fat-thicc-thick-cartman-south-park-gif-18093734

[brittle spindle]

will the y60 fit ASRock Radeon RX 6800 XT

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6800-xt-rx6800xt-pgd-16go/p/N82E16814930049?Item=N82E16814930049&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-ZO3D1knWMIQM_NAJTfcSSg

[empty pollen]

well, thats quite a long link

[languid nimbus]

Yeouch

[brittle spindle]

yea lol

[potent portal]

Yes that's about a 2.3 slot card, it'll fit

[cyan ravine]

It'll fit just be a bit of a hotboi

If you undervolt it you could probably keep it as good as stock

[empty pollen]

still im not into those 2 cases without some sort of water cooling

[potent portal]

Nah there's a whole other slot between it and the glass, it's fine

[empty pollen]

they are fish tanks basically

[cyan ravine]

They added another slot?

[cyan ravine]

Oh they did

[potent portal]

3 slots on vert mount

[cyan ravine]

Ah then it's fine

[empty pollen]

with enough fans, yes

that case comes with 0 fans right?

[potent portal]

2 on the bottom

[cyan ravine]

Oh no I'm stupid it alwayz had 3 slots

I thought it first came out with 2

[languid nimbus]

Gonna get that case for my snake, she’ll love it

[empty pollen]

no worries, we like you the way you are pal

[cyan ravine]

Nvm yeah 6800XT is perfectly fine lol @brittle spindle

[brittle spindle]

what if i use the side braket

to show off the triple fan

[cyan ravine]

You can only use the side bracket

[empty pollen]

thats the point of those type of cases

[cyan ravine]

It's intended

[empty pollen]

to show off your buiild

[cyan ravine]

So yes it's fine

[brittle spindle]

ohh

[potent portal]

Yep it's a showcase pc case

That's why all glass

[empty pollen]

like the o11

you can stuff toys inside as well

legos, all sort of stuff

[cyan ravine]

Makes a good toy box yeah

Ig

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-theoffice-michael-scott-gif-21865729

[empty pollen]

[languid nimbus]

it do be pretty though

[empty pollen]

forbidden

[languid nimbus]

rip lol

[potent portal]

Looks good... but that cable management... it disturbs something deep within me

[empty pollen]

dont like the rgb extensions

[brittle spindle]

i found this graoh

hold on

[empty pollen]

adds an unnecesary connector near the card

that disturb me

defeats the whole purpose of the cosmetic cable mod

[potent portal]

I'd have personally gone with a 90 degree 24 pin

[brittle spindle]

3070 ti i7-12700kf, the h5 elite doesnt do that bad compared to others

[tawny fiber]

Isn't there custom rgb cables

[potent portal]

Bruh the CPU is a full 11-12 degrees hotter

[brittle spindle]

oh true

[empty pollen]

yeah... that doenst qualify as "not that bad"

10 degrees is terrible

[languid nimbus]

5000t tho 👀

[empty pollen]

[tawny fiber]

5000t was like 250$ last I checked

[empty pollen]

5000t is expensive just for the bling

you can get away with a 5000d just fine

[languid nimbus]

$179 at BB now

Nope nvm that’s 5000x

[empty pollen]

and thats expensive

5000x most of the time falls to 120

[languid nimbus]

Jesus the 5000t is $400

[empty pollen]

200 more and you can get the haf500

that thing is like a fridge

[languid nimbus]

Interesting

[brittle spindle]

Okay but how bad is 79c on cpu

[potent portal]

Could drop you 150-200MHz boost

[brittle spindle]

bruh

damn

[empty pollen]

its pretty bad

[brittle spindle]

i dont know i have my eyes locked on the h5 elite even after you guys showed me the bad sides

[empty pollen]

then we have nothing more to say

you are deadlocked on that one

[brittle spindle]

yea

[potent portal]

You could always leave the front panel off

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Our last bastion, just ditch the panel

[empty pollen]

i dont think he'll do that

thats the whole point of that case

[cyan ravine]

Welp

We tried

[empty pollen]

we did what we could, the rest is on him

his money, his parts

¯_(ツ)_/¯