building-and-recc-chat

[cyan ravine]

lol maybe 30fps

uhd is 4k

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

why do i feel like this is a bait

[earnest olive]

intel didn't get av1 decoding until 2020

[obsidian wigeon]

kek

[earnest olive]

so yeah that cpu will probably struggle with 8k youtube

but why do you want to watch 8k youtube on a laptop anyways

does your laptop have an 8k screen? lmao

[cyan ravine]

it's probably streaming to some 8k screen

but it would be 30fps max

[obsidian wigeon]

nah it won't do that

would frame skip like hell

[cyan ravine]

hdmi 2.0 doesn't have the bandwidth

ik just saying

vga is hdmi

also vga ok so not 8k lel

[earnest olive]

ah yes 8k over vga

[covert vapor]

Y do dis. Protec pepeg hard drive, hard drive fren

[cyan ravine]

[covert vapor]

Uh, calm down on edgelord vibes. Pls. Also stop being a hard drive beater

[reef moss]

Can someone send me a part list for a gaming/streaming oc for like 1k. My buddy needs one haha

[mossy venture]

Do they care about looks, is 1k just for tower or tower + monitor, and do they need wiif

Wifi

[reef moss]

Just tower, yes wifi, no looks pref

[mossy venture]

Kk

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XH2dwc

[reef moss]

Huge thank you

[mossy venture]

Np

[analog pulsar]

I'm so upset with my pc I have 1 chrome tab open and Discord open and cpu already at 50%

So when I open game my cpu goes to 100% 💀

[mossy venture]

Run debloater

[warm cave]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3mKjKp

Hey guys. I'm thinking about upgrading my current build. I have all the parts except the PC cooler, CPU, Motherboard, and newer ram. The rest is old. With me having an 850w power supply, should I be worried about power issues with this build?

And could I currently stick with my 64g ddr4 3200 for that build? Or would I be shooting myself in the foot

[mossy venture]

Are you gaming?

Also am5 doesn't support ddr4

[warm cave]

Somewhat. But I'm mostly doing the build to help with 3D rendering

[mossy venture]

Ah

I'd probably get higher speed d5, and for the aio liquid freezer ii or a 360mm from EK

[fossil cedar]

Id do this instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fWdkyK

Amd just really isn't a good choice atm unfortunately

[weary galleon]

for new high-end stuff yeah

5600 at $120 pretty nice

or the ability to upgrade to 5800x3d if you already have am4 mobo

[warm cave]

Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. Big thanks!

[fossil cedar]

No problem

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but I'm talking about their new gen stuff

[weary galleon]

yeah hence this

[fossil cedar]

Even their older stuff only really 5600 and 5700x are worth considering

[brittle spindle]

Is there a big difference bough difference between 5600 and 5600x

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[weary galleon]

no

[obsidian wigeon]

only 1% at best

otherwise it's just nothing

just get the 5600 since it's typically cheaper

[weary galleon]

I've heard 2-3% but that's still not worth it for the price difference

[obsidian wigeon]

basically margin of error

[fossil cedar]

Nothing pbo couldn't make up anyway

[steady canyon]

hello pc builders i just updated my pc today and went to try to change my second monitors background to a different one than my first and came to find out i cant do it anymore. Background settings> right click on photo> choose monitor one or two. This option dont exist for me anymore and i was wondering if it was the same for anyone else

[fossil cedar]

Tried restarting?

[weary galleon]

Was the update from win10 to 11?

[sweet yarrow]

Looking for help on buying a Pc or even buying parts. Black Friday is coming up and the Newegg app has so many computer parts. Unless I should just buy a pre build one.

[weary galleon]

Got a budget? And what are you going to be using it for?

Also is said budget for the PC only or includes monitor/other stuff

[sweet yarrow]

My budget is about $750. I already have mouse/keyboard/monitors.

Sorry you probably get comments here and there. Working till five.

[fossil cedar]

def would buy parts instead of prebuilt then

[fossil cedar]

you in the US yea?

[sweet yarrow]

Yessir USA

[sweet yarrow]

I have about 400 games on steam I want to play. I would like to make videos or even stream with my friends. I do have good download/upload speed.

[weary galleon]

This is about $25 under budget if you include the $20 mail in rebate
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nb2PLs

Might be able to get a 6700xt if you waited for a sale

[sweet yarrow]

That looks nice

[weary galleon]

Cheap PC parts >>> healthcare

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yjGQNc

this is a good bit better for 5$ moer

[weary galleon]

That plus the mobo from my list?

B550 instead of b450

[fossil cedar]

nope mine has flashback yours doesnt

[weary galleon]

Ah

Also non modular PSU :/

Probably worth it for the 6700xt tho

[fossil cedar]

Better Psu

[cyan ravine]

Whoa, $730 for 6700XT? Nice

[fossil cedar]

try again

[cyan ravine]

734?

[weary galleon]

$120 5600 making budget builds ez

[fossil cedar]

370 m9

[weary galleon]

Ugh

I have a friend who bought a 360mm EK aio for his 5600X

It hurts me

[cyan ravine]

Oof, basic?

[weary galleon]

Pretty sure it cost more than the cpu

[weary galleon]

One of the rgb ones

[cyan ravine]

Haha oh no

Well he's got an aio for life now

[weary galleon]

Yup

And it came with 6 fans so at least case fans are covered as well

[fossil cedar]

oh no he bought the deluxe or something

[cyan ravine]

NO NOT THE ELITE

That thing is like double the price

[earnest olive]

could be worse

saw a pc with a custom looped i3-10100 and no dgpu on hws

[mossy venture]

How much was that even listed for

[earnest olive]

dont remember but it was not good

[cyan ravine]

Was it soft tube?

[earnest olive]

ye

[cyan ravine]

Ah well you could at least swap the cpu out for better

Would be terrible resale but not stuck in there

Someone tryna make the money off of the custom loop kek

[earnest olive]

if i ever build a custom loop its gonna have to be soft tube

then again

maybe hard tube would discourage me from upgrading so often

lmao

[cyan ravine]

I'm glad I tried soft tube first, it's very serviceable

[earnest olive]

i have a friend whos still stuck on a 7700K cause he doesnt want to deal with his hard tube loop

[cyan ravine]

Yeah exactly

You have to take it all apart

Fluid everywhere if you have no drain port

[earnest olive]

I am at least 50% sure that my aio + 13700K outperforms his looped 7700K

[cyan ravine]

The build up on a 7700K loop would be insane by now tho

[cyan ravine]

Ofc it would be lololol

[earnest olive]

swapping CPUs in 3 minutes was nice

would be faster if no contact frame

[cyan ravine]

I'm doing that today or tomorrow

[earnest olive]

that was a joke

even the cpu that I upgraded from beats his 7700K

gigachad i3-12100

[cyan ravine]

[earnest olive]

you know I tested the 12100 vs the 13700K in cold war

at 960p

saw an average benefit of 2%

[cyan ravine]

Gpu bound moment sounding like

[earnest olive]

with the 3090

cranked to max oc at 400+ watts

269 fps vs 274 fps

3090 bad gpu, bottleneck i3

smh

[cyan ravine]

Ima try alphacool subzero paste today

Supposedly as good as the rest

[earnest olive]

I need gpu upgrade

😦

[cyan ravine]

Eh you don't

Lol

4070 speeb

Don't even unless you XTX

[earnest olive]

my friend is trying to convince me that I need a $10k keyboard

4090 is a drop in the bucket compared to that

[cyan ravine]

10k what

Jesus

That's more than my best pc

[fossil cedar]

well sips did you see the msi thing mr1 posted in gpu chat?

enter to win the chance to buy 4090 kekw

[potent portal]

I don't suppose you have an Asus board

[fossil cedar]

msi z690 a pro

[earnest olive]

with updated ime and microcode

[potent portal]

Ah ok then. Had to check since Asus seems to be having issues with 13th gen on Z690 being worse than 12th gen.

[earnest olive]

no

i3 is just gigachad

[cyan ravine]

Kek Asus

That incident seems isolated too btw

It was only like 2 people

[earnest olive]

3090 bottlenecks it smh

[potent portal]

That we know of so far. How many people would notice if their CPU isn't performing as expected? It's not a huge difference, a 13700k performing like a 12700k.

[cyan ravine]

Still showing up less than other things

I'm not saying to ignore it I'm just saying 2 people isn't a lot

We can wait for someone like JayzTwoAsus to have his crack at it to see if he finds it lol

[potent portal]

Yeah we need someone like that with actual resources and comparison points to check it out

[cyan ravine]

I'm kinda glad tho, I nearly went with an Asus board tbh

Could've been having trouble with a strix D4

[earnest olive]

I think my 13700K is working as expected

it's beating 12900K in all benchmarks

[mossy venture]

You oc it yet?

[earnest olive]

yes

[potent portal]

As it should being basically an overclocked 12900k

[earnest olive]

sottr reported cpu scores went through the roof compared to the i3 lol

average fps was the same though

3090 bottleneck

[potent portal]

Yep, sadge

Need 4090 now

[mossy venture]

If 3090 bottlenecks it, 13600k will be sleeping with my 3060 ti lol

[potent portal]

100%

[mossy venture]

Plenty of headroom for gpu upgrade though, which is what I was aiming for

[earnest olive]

even the i3 would be sleeping with your 3060ti

[potent portal]

Are you thinking next (current) gen or waiting for the 5000/8000 cards?

[mossy venture]

Yeah, since I switched to 1440p my 3060 ti has been the limiting factor fs

[earnest olive]

I'm testing at 960p lol

[mossy venture]

Either 5000 or 6000 series, or amd equivelant at that time

[potent portal]

Smart

[mossy venture]

Hopefully an atx 2.0 850w will be fine in a couple gens

I dont see why it wouldn't with an adapter

[earnest olive]

given the current bad press

amd will probably take a very long time to adopt the new connector if they do

[mossy venture]

Yo sips I found your next motherboard https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162101?Item=N82E16813162101&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-162-101-_-11112022

[earnest olive]

yawn

[mossy venture]

It even comes with a mouse pad

[earnest olive]

wake me up when genshin motherboard

[torpid loom]

Can someone tell me is this build is good for games like rust, rainbow six siege, and valorant?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FJx3Mb

[earnest olive]

looks good to me

also looks like something that came out of here

yup found it

lmao

[fossil cedar]

It's okay but this is way better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rfFvC6
Or for a bit more and a 1tb ssd instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RmFvC6

[earnest olive]

i feel like this entire conversation already happened

[cyan ravine]

Jesus the man's stripped my build

I feel naked

[fossil cedar]

Wdym

[cyan ravine]

HAHA

[fossil cedar]

Also congrats on rank up

[cyan ravine]

I turned blue on that message

[cyan ravine]

.

[fossil cedar]

That was your build tho

But i outbuilded you soz

[cyan ravine]

Stripped down and rebuilded

Uwu

Naked and ashamed

[fossil cedar]

Isn't it the exact same list ?

[earnest olive]

it's the same link lol

[cyan ravine]

I didn't do no neo forza builds I did the monke one

Kekw

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i just grabbed a build i had made like 4 hours ago

[upper ore]

Check this out on @Newegg: G.SKILL Trident Z Neo Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 4000 (PC4 32000) Desktop Memory Model F4-4000C18D-32GTZN https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374105?Item=N82E16820374105&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-374-105-_-11112022 I have no idea why these are cheaper then the lower speed ram sticks that I was gonna get. Unless I'm missing something

[earnest olive]

there is little demand for 4000mt/s ram

[mossy venture]

Good luck getting that to run in gear 1 without tuning

[earnest olive]

it is inferior for both ryzen and intel platforms without manual tuning

[mossy venture]

Most cpus won't even with tuning

[earnest olive]

and people who are into manual tuning would usually not buy ram like this anyways

not very good for overclocking

[fossil cedar]

Meh you can get 3600c16 for 115$

[mossy venture]

^

What both of them said

[upper ore]

Not buying them I just saw them and say the price and compared it to the 3600 sticks I was gonna get. Just thought it was crazy to see the price difference

[fossil cedar]

I mean it's not trident z but it's rgb

[earnest olive]

looks like some hynix djr

[fossil cedar]

Probably

[earnest olive]

yeah, it's because the 4000mt/s xmp profile makes it a worse product lol

[upper ore]

Guys don't worry I'm not buying them lol

[upper ore]

Good to know

[cyan ravine]

It'll be hynix for sure

[earnest olive]

those timings could be rev. e/b

but it's g.skill

so it's 99.999% hynix

i'm not sure how consistently CJR can hit that freq

so probably DJR

[fossil cedar]

I mean technically they could be rev e but why would they make it 18 flat 22s

[earnest olive]

could be low bin rev. e

the 3200c16 rev. e kits prob need tRCD 22 at 4000

my high bin rev. e needed tRCD 22 at 4800

[upper ore]

Are you guys still talking about the ram I posted? Lol

[earnest olive]

20 booted but unstable

yes

we're just being ram oc nerds at this point

you can ignore us

[upper ore]

Well I'm glad I can be of help in giving you guys something to talk/think about.

[sweet yarrow]

i had help earlier, anyone recommend a gaming pc $750? Building would be awesome but also my first time. If anything, you can overbudget of $100 preferably on motherboard

[mossy venture]

Is that just for the tower?

[hallow glen]

(ie not including monitor or other accessories)

[mossy venture]

If so, either this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yjGQNc

Or switch gpu for 6650xt and ssd for 1tb silicon power a60

[mossy venture]

Could also switch mobo to b550m-vc wifi

[earnest olive]

why over budget $100 preferably on motherboard

if there's anything you would want to over budget in a gaming rig it would be gpu

getting a fancy motherboard for a low end to midrange cpu gets you zero performance benefit

[sweet yarrow]

Yeah, i already have the mouse, keyboard, and monitors

what about a CPU cooler?

@earnest olive oh okay i'll have to change that up, thanks for the help. I'm a major noob

[willow rock]

I heard bad reviews about 6700xt

[potent portal]

Stock cooler

[earnest olive]

it comes with an included cooler that's generally fine

but you can upgrade it for looks/noise

you can also use stock cooler now and upgrade it later

[earnest olive]

from where lol

[sweet yarrow]

ahhh okay

[potent portal]

It's like $20 for a cheap tower cooler that'll be quieter

[analog hearth]

ok

[sweet yarrow]

any good gpu out there?

[potent portal]

Were they early reviews? It's improved a lot over time, easily double digit % gains for some game engines

[willow rock]

11700k 11gen core i7

3070 to 4090

[earnest olive]

what...?

[lucid breach]

are there any case fans that are intake fans where the nicer side is on the inside

[potent portal]

Depends on what you think looks nicer

[obsidian wigeon]

there's thermaltake fan that lets you swap the blades to face the direction you want

expensive as heck tho

[lucid breach]

hmmm true, thank you

[analog pulsar]

I think i need better GPU

My vr gameplay is sad

[weary galleon]

Looks like your headset is 120hz and prefers to drop to 60, maybe something to reduce motion sickness?

[analog pulsar]

no higher hz stops motion sicknes

lower hz makes you wanna puke

[weary galleon]

Yeah but it might be locking to 60 instead of fluctuating 100-70.

[analog pulsar]

its not locked to 60

[weary galleon]

Most of those drops are to 60fps

What gpu & cpu you got?

And headset

[analog pulsar]

12100F and 6600 hehe

quest 2

[weary galleon]

6600 should be enough for beat saber

Maybe something to do with 12100 being 4c and needing to compress to stream via Link?

[potent portal]

That's a shockingly consistent frame chart tbh

[analog pulsar]

its from razer

[potent portal]

The dips are all to the same fps

[analog pulsar]

also i know im game it lags

[weary galleon]

Yes hence why I thought it might be a motion sickness thing

[potent portal]

See what's getting used the most during games and we can narrow that down

[analog pulsar]

well i am playing game on 1440p monitor

[potent portal]

Right but if the CPU still spikes to near 100% then that will cause dips too

[analog pulsar]

oh yea yea probs cpu is 100%

.lol

[potent portal]

Yep that'll do it lol

[analog pulsar]

oh so i need new cpu

[weary galleon]

Most likely

Unless there's some other process hogging cpu

12400f $160 rn

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NPJRDGD?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[analog pulsar]

nah im getting 13600k

[weary galleon]

That works as well

Probably overkill for a 6600 tho

[analog pulsar]

6600 is being upgraded later too

[weary galleon]

Ah

[potent portal]

For now you can kill all the background processes so there's less spikes at least

Including discord

[analog pulsar]

lol

[dim forge]

guys, 5600 for 120usd is a good deal?

i3 12100f is 105 and i5 12400f 170

[weary galleon]

yes, for a budget/lower mid range build

12100f is only 4 core which can be a problem sometimes

12400f is good but right now much more expensive than 5600

[fleet bolt]

hi i’m wondering if i should get this ram https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08P3KJRM5/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8 which is cheaper or this one https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-DDR4-Laptop-Memory-CT8G4SFRA32A/dp/B08C4Z69LN/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=PS7DJGWESDBW& which is a bit more but is a more known brand

[dim forge]

would a b450 be good enough?

[weary galleon]

yes, as long as it has an updated bios

if it doesnt you will either need to flash an updated bios (only on some mobos) or install an older am4 cpu to update bios

[dim forge]

b450 ds3h is a good option?

[weary galleon]

i don't know a lot about specific boards sorry

[dusty coyote]

I have a build to throw at you guys. It’s one that my buddy built for me a few years ago when I was super broke and he wanted to get me something nice so he built me a PC. It’s a gigabyte H310M A motherboard, i3-8100 cpu, 8GB patriot ram (2 x 4), EVGA 600W 80 plus bronze PSU and an EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6Gb graphics card. Now that is still a strangely good build. I can play sea of thieves at full graphics and halo at medium and destiny 2 at full with 60 to 100 fps (except on halo infinite because I swear I think the game has some weird problem) I am trying to do some minor lesser expensive upgrades to it so I happened to find an i5-8600K cpu and I’m going to upgrade to 32 GB of Ram (which I know is a bit overkill) but I wanted to know your opinions.

[weary galleon]

16gb ram is a better bet

[stoic island]

b450 ds3h is pretty bad board

no flashback and wack vrms along with other stuff

[fossil cedar]

No but asus b450 prime ii and msi b550 pro vdh (wifi) are good options and both have flashback

[small sphinx]

Excuse me, I wanted to know if the motherboard b560m is compatible with the i9 11900k

[mossy venture]

Yes, but if you don't own the 11900k or b560 I wouldn't buy them

13600k is normally the same price and slaps it around in single core, and pretty sure it wins in multi core by a large margin too

[earnest olive]

no reason to get an 8600K on a board you can't oc with, and with current 8600K prices you might as well just sell the cpu and board together and buy an i3-12100f + new board

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tFNgTJ

you'd end up spending a similar amount of money out of pocket, but the i3-12100f is a far superior cpu to the i5-8600K

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dZ8ybh here's including a 32gb ram kit for $254.94 total

you could probably sell the i3-8100 + h310 + 8gb ddr4 combo for about $100 and bring the out of pocket cost to $150

[weary galleon]

5600 instead of 12100?

Or spend a bit extra for a 12400?

[earnest olive]

i mean they're viable options if the budget is there

12100f is already far beyond overkill for that 1060 though

[weary galleon]

Ah true

[earnest olive]

i had trouble fully utilizing my 12100 with a 3090 at 960p

lol

[weary galleon]

4 core tho :/

[earnest olive]

really not seeing much gain from a 13700K @ 5.6

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gnmzfv ryzen 5 5600 alternative for $267.95

for $13 you might as well tbh

[earnest olive]

core count isn't everything

12100 already matches or beats 10900K in most games 🙂

[weary galleon]

Yes but in some situations 4c will struggle

See Kenzie last night getting huge fps drops with Oculus Link

Granted that's fairly niche

[earnest olive]

my 12100 handled cyberpunk like a champ lol

[mossy venture]

Sometimes my brain feels like a 2 core cpu

Intel core duo 2450

[weary galleon]

I'd imagine Cbpk isn't very cpu intensive

[earnest olive]

2 cores? 1 more than mine

[earnest olive]

LOL?

[weary galleon]

Gpu sure, but cpu?

[mossy venture]

Very much cpu intensive

[earnest olive]

stop the cap

[mossy venture]

Moreso than gpu intensive

[earnest olive]

ok that's not true

but it's intensive on both

[mossy venture]

Oh wait this isn't at 960p

[earnest olive]

it is

actually i think i was testing cyberpunk at 835p lol

[mossy venture]

Gah damn

[earnest olive]

the 12100 was like a 15% bottleneck at that res with psycho rtx

thats the worst bottleneck i ever observed from it

compared to my 5800x

hmm i should run the bench on my 13700K too

[torpid loom]

Can someone make me a list that cost 750 dollars I’m from the us and it needs to have a monitor too I want to use it just for gaming and school work

[earnest olive]

dude, you already got like 3 lists made for you

don't waste peoples' time

[torpid loom]

I am not trying to but my parents said it needs to be under 800 dollars

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8jbBY9

ok

done

[torpid loom]

Thank you

[earnest olive]

hmm interesting

something's up here

maybe cyberpunk 1.5 doesn't like the newest nvidia driver?

the 13700K performs as it should in other benchmarks

seems like it's my gpu that is underperforming, I wonder why

just ran SOTTR and the 13700K absolutely obliterated the 5800X

but GPU lost to its former self

cpu an eye watering 47% faster in average fps and 57% faster in min fps

but the same 3090 at same settings is losing to its former self by 8.3% in average fps and 3.6% in lows

hmm

hmmm

[analog pulsar]

ill waste people time if i like now where can i find a $10 3090

[rich void]

I bet there are some on eBay. Definitely legit cards too

[fossil cedar]

is rebar enabled/disabled?

from prev run that is

[earnest olive]

I'm pretty sure it is, I'll double check when I'm back home from lunch

[fossil cedar]

esports run on potatos

[dusty coyote]

Sorry just now getting on the reply. I managed the land the 8600K for 30 bucks and I’ve tested it and it works well. I do agree that the overclocking side of things sucks because I can’t do it. I’m just trying to stay on a budget the best I can lol

[earnest olive]

ah

for $30 it's good

I see it going for like 100 right now and it's definitely not worth 100

just grab the ram kit I linked then

[dusty coyote]

Right I definitely get that for sure. Oh shoot I didn’t see the link, let me go check it out

Also thank you I appreciate it!

[earnest olive]

np

[earnest olive]

yes

[fossil cedar]

was it enabled before?

might be the issue

[earnest olive]

yes

[fossil cedar]

if it fixed your welcome babes xo

[earnest olive]

no

rebar was enabled the whole time on all 3 platforms

[fossil cedar]

ahh hmm

[earnest olive]

gpu clocks are the same

temps are fine

peaked at 58

with 68 hotspot

and I think 56 vram

nowhere near power limit

[cyan ravine]

Just board and cpu changes?

Or did something else change when you left amd (you traitor)

[drifting garnet]

Does anyone know if I got something like this if I could remove one of the arms for two monitors and put it back on if i decide to get another one? And is this a good monitor arm? https://www.amazon.com/WALI-Free-Standing-Adjustable-Capacity-MF003/dp/B07GBL3PN3/ref=sr_1_8?crid=3A6HY5UQUHU5I&keywords=monitor+arm+3+monitors+vertical&qid=1668287386&s=electronics&sprefix=monitor+arm+3+monitors+vertical%2Celectronics%2C95&sr=1-8

[fleet bolt]

hello i have 2 8 gb ram sodimms i’m considering to buy and one is 3200Mhz cl 22 and other is 2400 mhz cl 16 which one should i buy they are both the same price

[woven horizon]

Confirmed it is the ram. At stock it is fine. At xmp it fails. So I’ll be swapping in a 16GB kit and reducing the price.

[mossy venture]

3200

[cosmic yoke]

any tech experts I can ask for help on something

[leaden mauve]

yea you can ask

[drifting garnet]

I was wondering if something like a Silicon Power A55 1tb SSD would be better than having a 2tb western digital blue HDD for games or would it be better to get the hard drive?

[cosmic yoke]

i upgraded my cpu and mobo yesterday to 12900k and z690 ddr4... had a 9900k and z390 e gaming when i went to test out my fps on cod i was getting like 80 fps max

all the drivers and stuff were update to date and stuff even bios

[fossil cedar]

I'd go for an ssd over hdd tbh, obvs less space but it's a lot nicer

[cyan ravine]

Clean windows install?

[fossil cedar]

Did you enable xmp?

[cosmic yoke]

done that twice

[cosmic yoke]

yeah

[fossil cedar]

Made sure the game settings didn't change?

[cosmic yoke]

went to microcenter for a diagnostic check today and they said all my hardware was fine also

[cosmic yoke]

it stayed the same

[fossil cedar]

What temps are your cpu?

Use hwinfo64 to check

[cyan ravine]

Ah true, what cooler are you using

[cosmic yoke]

like 30-50c

[cosmic yoke]

corsair h150i elite

[cyan ravine]

Not even the worst aio either hmm

[cosmic yoke]

i dont even know at this point its pissing me off lol

[cyan ravine]

Is it like, a big drop in fps or a little?

[cosmic yoke]

big drop

was 200+ on my 9900k with the new cpu im 80 max

[cyan ravine]

Oh hang on

Did you set warzone to high priority?

[cosmic yoke]

dont run warzone 👀

[cyan ravine]

Cod sorry

[cosmic yoke]

i think so not sure

[cyan ravine]

Everything cod amounts to warzone in my head

[cyan ravine]

Via task manager?

You can also disable e cores and the scheduling won't push it to the e cores

[cosmic yoke]

ngl i havent reinstalled cod yet

[cyan ravine]

E cores off testing might tell you if it's the scheduler

[cosmic yoke]

i was on cold war eariler though i was getting the same fps

[cosmic yoke]

heh

[cyan ravine]

It's true

Intel also runs games faster with hyperthreading off

[cosmic yoke]

how i turn that off

👀

[cyan ravine]

Save for like, celeron and Pentium but that's a given

In bios you turn them off

Idk what board you have

[cosmic yoke]

msi z690 edge wifi ddr4

[cyan ravine]

Ah ok, in the advanced section under "advanced cpu settings"

You can disable all the e cores and I believe hyperthreading is in there too (don't have to do the second one)

[cosmic yoke]

welp hope i dont mess up anything LOL brb

[cosmic yoke]

cant find it 💀

[cyan ravine]

Keep looking I g2g to work sorry

[cosmic yoke]

all good 🥲

[cyan ravine]

Called like "e cores enabled" or "e cores disabled" or something like that

Under advanced cpu settings

[cosmic yoke]

i see a e core ratio limit 🤷‍♂️

[drifting garnet]

do you think that the A55 is ok for the price?

[cosmic yoke]

Ai i just disabled hyper threading now what 👀

[cosmic yoke]

yeah idk anymore still on 80 fps max

at this point im bouta go back to my 9900k 💀

[rugged anvil]

@cosmic yoke how's the performance in other games?

could be an optimization issue

[cosmic yoke]

idk valo is like 400 i try yesterday

[rugged anvil]

normal

[cosmic yoke]

but today i didnt get the chance to trybother games

Cod leaves me with 80

On modern and cold war

[rugged anvil]

what launcher?

[cosmic yoke]

battlenet

[cosmic yoke]

At this point idk anymore

@rugged anvil any ideas? 🤷‍♂️

[stoic island]

Try rolling back GPU drivers

Ddu and install a previous driver

Check if you're running ram at xmp ig?

Check if ram is detected and not system reserved for some reason

Probably good to do a quick 3dmark TS demo run and see how the scores look

That'll help with seeing if it's a performance issue or software issue

[cosmic yoke]

i am

[fleet bolt]

ryzen 5 5600 for 99 usd is it worth

[cosmic yoke]

Ram is detected

[woven horizon]

Thats $20 cheaper than list price now.

[cosmic yoke]

i mean i went to microcenter for a diagnostic check they said that hardware was fine and stuff

[covert crypt]

Need help I just turned on my computer but it keeps turning off and back on before reaching the boot screen and when it reaches boot screen it brings me to this screen
It did this twice and I finally managed to get into the system what could be causing this ?

[woven horizon]

Are you changing anything in the bios after it posts?

[cosmic yoke]

smh bouta go back to my 9900k

fps tanking od 💀 on 12900k

[covert crypt]

i dont think so the only thing i remember changing in the bios was turning on SVM for NOX/BlueStacks/LDPlayer

[woven horizon]

Sounds like you need to wipe the drive and reinstall everything. There is something software causing it.

[covert crypt]

but that was from yesterday and it was working fine

[cosmic yoke]

i lowkey done it twice already i think

[woven horizon]

When you reinstalled windows, you had to do windows update and reinstall GPU drivers?

[cosmic yoke]

yep

[woven horizon]

Something is borked

[cosmic yoke]

went from having close to 300 fps on 9900k to having 80 max on 12900k LOL

thats crazy

[stoic island]

ye but benchmark tells you software side things

If drivers are screwed, you can't tell that by looking at hardware

[woven horizon]

Run passmark and post screenshot

[covert crypt]

do you know what could be causing my error?

[stoic island]

3dmark demo easiest, passmark might make you pay

[cosmic yoke]

they did benchmark i think they use furmark or something lol

[stoic island]

3dmark gives you a score

[cosmic yoke]

ai

[stoic island]

furmark is just a stress test

Furmark is good at telling you if you're running into heat issues

[woven horizon]

Ram, a bad drive, motherboard issue, cpu,

[cosmic yoke]

aii lemme just download 3dmark rn

[stoic island]

but 3dmark :(

[cosmic yoke]

there a link? 👀 it brings me to steam LOL

[stoic island]

3dmark demo off steam

[covert crypt]

i mean im in the computer now using it normally but it was the booting issue hm

[stoic island]

When you scroll down

[woven horizon]

I had a bad HDD causing boot issues. Also ram can cause the posting issue.

[cosmic yoke]

oh im blind LOL

ill screenshot after its done i guess

[stoic island]

don't remember if demo gives you a link to results or not, if it gives you a link, paste the link, if not, just screenshot it is enough

[cosmic yoke]

ai

[covert crypt]

hm if it was bad ram would it still show up cause all my ram is there

[woven horizon]

Right

[covert crypt]

same with my drives

[woven horizon]

right

It can be bad and still show up.

[covert crypt]

lol how would i know which is bad

[woven horizon]

memtest86 for the ram, HDD I just unplug everything but the boot drive, then add them back until the issue is there or it isnt.

[analog pulsar]

download crystal disk info

tells you data about the drive

[woven horizon]

Kenzie to the rescue! 🙂

SSDs are so cheap. I will not buy another HDD.

[covert crypt]

not sure wat this tells me

[covert crypt]

and hm ok

[stoic island]

2133 c15

that should be jedec

[cosmic yoke]

im running time spy right?

[stoic island]

yea

[cosmic yoke]

ai running it rn

[analog pulsar]

if both drives good youll get this

[stoic island]

were you trying to enable xmp before?

if you enabled xmp, bios did the thing, and it's 2133c15 now, it means xmp isn't stable for some reason

[covert crypt]

according to my brother this is what he did cause we were trying to install my new WD_black nvme and it wasnt booting up bios and kept freezing until we updated bios

and then he changed the bios for the ram cuz it was default 2133 instead of 3600

[woven horizon]

Wait a minute. What motherboard and bios version.

[stoic island]

then 3600 isn't stable for some reason

[analog pulsar]

where can i buy hard drive screws

[analog pulsar]

thats good

[analog pulsar]

my hard drive is not screwed into pc rnm bc i didnt have any screws

[covert crypt]

that's really weird cause i have 4 of these and they are 3600 https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907?Item=N82E16820232907

[woven horizon]

Its a bios issue, Update to a newer bios

[stoic island]

Yes, but ram could be unstable for lots of reasons

ram is weird

running 4x16 is also not easy on the imc

[covert crypt]

that's odd though cause i thought i updated the bios two days ago cause the system wouldnt take the nvme it kept getting to the asus tuf logo and freezing

[cosmic yoke]

yeah its fked lowkeyy

[covert crypt]

so we had it update bios in the bios setting via internet and it started recognizing the second nvme

[analog pulsar]

is it thermal throttling

[analog pulsar]

show temps

[analog pulsar]

hm idk why its so low

[cosmic yoke]

idk either

been on this for the 2nd day already lol

struggling to find an answer to it

[analog pulsar]

are the cpu drivers installed

and chipset drivers

[cosmic yoke]

yeah

[woven horizon]

Look at the GPU score. That doesnt look right

[cosmic yoke]

am i not supposed to O_O

[cosmic yoke]

right

[stoic island]

GPU scores are really low so something relating to the GPU

It's a 3080

[woven horizon]

I am just free standing in the wind then

It should be north of 20k

[analog pulsar]

oh

[cosmic yoke]

idk anymore

[stoic island]

well normal TS it should be like 18k or smth but still

do DDU

[covert crypt]

how do i update my bios?
is the only way by putting the bios update from the site on a usb?

[stoic island]

!ddu

[still roost]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[stoic island]

the only reliable way yes

[analog pulsar]

did you ddu when you upgraded ?

[cosmic yoke]

🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️

prob not?

dunno waht that is ngl

[analog pulsar]

omg lol'

[cosmic yoke]

LMFAO

[analog pulsar]

@cosmic yoke follow this guide

[cosmic yoke]

doinng it rn

ngl never happened to me b4 first time

[analog pulsar]

well if you have old gpu drivers and you install new gpu and then download them drivers the gpu gets confused/ the drivers mix and bad stuff haspopoens

[covert crypt]

I’m getting this error when trying to update it that’s weird

[woven horizon]

Its not the proper bios

[covert crypt]

Where do I get the proper ?

[cosmic yoke]

Lmao cant find ddu in safe mode 💀

[covert crypt]

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/all-series/tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi/helpdesk_bios/

Cause that's where i got it from

[woven horizon]

what version did you get?

[cosmic yoke]

Help 😭😭

[woven horizon]

Also is the usb formatted to fat32

[analog pulsar]

Huh

[cosmic yoke]

Downloaded ddu and booted to safe mode

[covert crypt]

yes

[stoic island]

did you use the renamer or no

[woven horizon]

Did you rename the bios file?

[covert crypt]

nope

[woven horizon]

there you go

[cosmic yoke]

and i see it in downloads but its telling me to extract which i did

[woven horizon]

Before running the USB flashback tool，please rename the BIOS file (.CAP) using BIOSRenamer"

[cosmic yoke]

Nvm i got it lol.

[covert crypt]

ah ok

trying now thanks

[cosmic yoke]

@analog pulsar check all the boxes?

[woven horizon]

Yes you want to remove physX also

[cosmic yoke]

Ai

[cosmic yoke]

advance options too? 😬

[woven horizon]

I never touch them

[cosmic yoke]

so just everything above advanced 🤷‍♂️

[woven horizon]

You have a 3080 so only the Nvidia options are relevant

[analog pulsar]

ask someone else im out of tech support

[cosmic yoke]

Ai

[cosmic yoke]

It booted me bck to safe mode o.O

just restart pc?

[woven horizon]

Now open DDU and uninstall the driver

[cosmic yoke]

I already did ddu

[woven horizon]

and it rebooted into safe mode?

[cosmic yoke]

yeah

[covert crypt]

Updated my bio successfully

[woven horizon]

See if your xmp will post now

[analog pulsar]

@woven horizon are these hard drive screws

[covert crypt]

Where to go from here

[tawny fiber]

1.4v seems rather high

[cosmic yoke]

Should i just restart my pc?

[woven horizon]

restart then go here for drivers https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/drivers/

[cosmic yoke]

Ai thanks

Lmao it brought me back to safe mode

💀💀

[woven horizon]

docp change to enabled

[covert crypt]

Only gives these option

[woven horizon]

profile 1 then

[short yoke]

I have question

[cosmic yoke]

Yeah..it brought me bck to safe mode lmfao

[woven horizon]

does it say safe mode or is the resolution just bad

[woven horizon]

no idea boss

[cosmic yoke]

Black background safe mode along the corners

[covert crypt]

Where do I check the xmp?

[short yoke]

My PC boots into bios, i think because it dosent recognize the SSD. But when i shut down my system, drain it (hold the power button for a minute), plug it back in and turn it on it boots up normally

[woven horizon]

DOCP is the same thing

[woven horizon]

DM me

[covert crypt]

Stuck on yellow light now lol

[woven horizon]

Yep its a ram issue, clear cmos

[covert crypt]

Clear cmos?

[woven horizon]

turn the pc off and flip the power switch, short the 2 pins labeled 12 on the motherboard

[short yoke]

Is it possible to disable bios checking for certain parts apon boot? I load into bios I think because my ssd isnt recognized, but it's a working ssd

[cyan ravine]

Still safe mode?

[woven horizon]

msconfig and we are out of it now, running benchmarks

[cosmic yoke]

^^

[covert crypt]

How do u short it lol

[cyan ravine]

Okie post scores when done

Cpu score looked ok

[woven horizon]

A screwdriver

[short yoke]

Put a screwdriver between the two pins

[woven horizon]

very gently

[cosmic yoke]

ai

[covert crypt]

How do I know if it’s shorted lol

A spark?

[cyan ravine]

You want around 18K on a 3080

Gsync off as well that can hurt it

[woven horizon]

Your computer will boot when you flip the power switch and hit the button

[covert crypt]

Oh so I wasn’t suppose to unplug it

[woven horizon]

Thats fine too

[cosmic yoke]

Watch it not happen

[woven horizon]

Dont be so pessimistic

[cyan ravine]

Hey just giving you a target to look out for

Lol

Even as low as 16K is copium but still in range

[short yoke]

Now probably isnt the best time but your PC is clean bro

[cosmic yoke]

ai

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[woven horizon]

anything more than 9k and there was progress

[covert crypt]

Stuck it between

And that’s it ?

Rubbed it down with a screwdriver in between up and down

[woven horizon]

just for a few seconds and that should be it, if it was the 2 pins in the screenshot i sent.

[covert crypt]

Ok

[woven horizon]

I am jelly of the fans BTW

[covert crypt]

Oh was looking for 9 non rgb fans and this was the best one I could find to make set up all black

Flipped the switch and powered on it cycled the lights and went back to yellow

And back to green it’s booted

[woven horizon]

Sweet.

[covert crypt]

Now lol zzz

[cyan ravine]

@cosmic yoke score?

[covert crypt]

Pressed f1 and pressed boot and it’s red light now lol

[woven horizon]

Got another set of ram?

[cosmic yoke]

@woven horizon @cyan ravine

[woven horizon]

Whats the timespy score?

[cosmic yoke]

wasnt able to run it

LOL

[covert crypt]

Only have the 4 ram sticks lol

[woven horizon]

What does that light say? CPU?

[cyan ravine]

Ehhh???

What happened

[covert crypt]

Turned it off and turned it back on

[cyan ravine]

It crashed??

[cyan ravine]

Did you reinstall the gpu drivers??

[cosmic yoke]

yeah

[covert crypt]

Now it’s booted normally

I have a feeling I’m gonna be facing dis issue every time I wanna boot up my computer

[cyan ravine]

What the heck the 3080 is a dx12 card

[cyan ravine]

Dx12r

EHHH?

[woven horizon]

[cosmic yoke]

something like taht

[still roost]

Versatile.#5911 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cosmic yoke]

[cyan ravine]

SSSE IS SUPPORTED

[cosmic yoke]

lemme reinstall

3d

and see if that works

[cosmic yoke]

chill 😭

[cosmic yoke]

cracked

[woven horizon]

Your score should be better than that

[cyan ravine]

Hmmmmmmmmm

[cosmic yoke]

well its not letting rerun time spy

[mossy venture]

That graphics is about 2k higher than my 3060 ti fully oced hit

Seems about right with a 3070 ti

[woven horizon]

Mine is stock no changes.

[mossy venture]

Yeah

[cosmic yoke]

what now lol

[woven horizon]

something is afoot with your whole system

[cosmic yoke]

heh

i mean gpu is a lhr card doubt it make a difference?

[woven horizon]

No none

[cyan ravine]

Have you installed chipset drivers for your board and MGE?

[cosmic yoke]

mhm

[cyan ravine]

So you know what mge is cos I just made that acronym up

Intel management engine?

[woven horizon]

[cosmic yoke]

LMFAO

[cyan ravine]

[cosmic yoke]

trolling

[cyan ravine]

Fr tho management engine helps

Then install OCCT and try a power test with SSE

Just asking btw what cooler are you using

Just in case

[cosmic yoke]

corsair h150i elite

[cyan ravine]

Oh right

[woven horizon]

Take your pc to micro center and have them fix it.

[cyan ravine]

Yeah you mentioned that earlier

[cosmic yoke]

done that today they said everything is fine LOL

[woven horizon]

Nah m8 they didn’t fix diddly

[cyan ravine]

Did you hook the psu up properly?

Check all the cables

[cosmic yoke]

uh yeah lol

[cyan ravine]

Cables backwards could cause weird stuff

[woven horizon]

Take it back to micro center and ask them to fix it properly.

[cyan ravine]

Have you asked them to test a different board?

This is starting to remind me of my 12900K teething

Checked the ssd health?

Any S.M.A.R.T warnings?

[cosmic yoke]

i think they did a diagnostic check or something

[cosmic yoke]

UHHHHHHHHH

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/math-zack-galifianakis-thinking-calculating-gif-5120792

[woven horizon]

They need to run 3d mark

And then they will see the issue.

[cyan ravine]

They could run any benchmark and see it

Even usermememark

[woven horizon]

True

[cosmic yoke]

aii idk anymore what should i even do lol

[cyan ravine]

You need tools

[woven horizon]

I told you. Take it back to micro center.

[cyan ravine]

Extra parts

[woven horizon]

Lol

[cosmic yoke]

[cosmic yoke]

smh this is aids

[cyan ravine]

Take it back to micro center where they have the spare parts

And show them these results

[analog pulsar]

What

[woven horizon]

They can troubleshoot it

[cyan ravine]

Tell them it's failing benchmarks and won't even do non-avx tasks

[woven horizon]

what?

[analog pulsar]

62k

[woven horizon]

Is that bad?

[analog pulsar]

Oh this isn't timesky

[cyan ravine]

It's fine

[woven horizon]

LOL

[cyan ravine]

[woven horizon]

Thought I got 62k in Time Spy lol

[cosmic yoke]

welp micro we go tmr with time spy results

aids

asf

[woven horizon]

Your GPU is running worse than a 3060.

[cyan ravine]

Run more tests

Eh about 3060 perf

Average 3060 is about 8k

[cosmic yoke]

like

[cyan ravine]

Userbenchmark (yes even as a joke it'll show it)

Passmark

Occt

Intel xtu

Anything you can think of

[cosmic yoke]

i aint got non

[cyan ravine]

Time to go get some son

Everything I wrote is free

[woven horizon]

running memebench for the memes

[stoic island]

no one has tried any overclocking on your build right

[cosmic yoke]

nop

i literally changed the parts like last night

[cyan ravine]

It sounds like something cpu or board related now

The cpu became unable to run the test after ddu like

Lolwut

[dim forge]

I need black friday now !!!

[cyan ravine]

I'm sure the ram is still fine so ruling that out

Unless it's new ram

Psu can also cause weirdness if it's malfunctioning

[cosmic yoke]

Nop been the same ram

[cosmic yoke]

am i running xtu2 benchmark

[cyan ravine]

You can also run the regular cpu stress test and see what happens

Not the AVX or AVX2

Don't run the stresses for too long either

@cosmic yoke what psu are you running?

[cosmic yoke]

5 mins good enough?

[cosmic yoke]

corsair rmx 1000w

[cyan ravine]

Ye 5 minutes is ok

Ok so psu is good, new or old?

[cosmic yoke]

brand new

[cyan ravine]

Do you have displayout on your mobo?

[cosmic yoke]

nah its on gpu

[cyan ravine]

Oh sorry, didn't mean the cable

Does it have a plug?

[cosmic yoke]

yeah

[cyan ravine]

Ok

[cosmic yoke]

running DP

[cyan ravine]

Are you running any wallpaper engine in the bg at all

Some wallpapers can be power hogs

[cosmic yoke]

ye

[cyan ravine]

Turn it off

[cosmic yoke]

but i been using the same one since 9900kk

[cosmic yoke]

ai

[cyan ravine]

Turn it off then go to nvidia control panel

Turn off gsync

Go to adjust settings with preview

Up the top

Use the slider and set it to performance *then apply

Did the xtu fail at all?

[cosmic yoke]

got 1 min left

[cyan ravine]

Still going?

Is it at 100C?

Or under

How much power is the cpu using

[cosmic yoke]

it says passed

with the stress test

[cyan ravine]

What did it say under package tdp

Not now but before

Or start the test rq again and tell me

[cosmic yoke]

same test?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[cosmic yoke]

ai

[cyan ravine]

Just any number during the test is fine

[cosmic yoke]

175-188 around there

[cyan ravine]

Try avx2 now and tell me how much power

[cosmic yoke]

ai

170-179 around there

[cyan ravine]

Interesting

[cosmic yoke]

🤷‍♂️

[cyan ravine]

Download occt now and try the power test

Power test SSE

Then if you see no errors and 240W on the cpu there, we'll run 3dmark again

Would you believe me that I've seen wallpaper engine pull over 200W on my 3080 before?

[cosmic yoke]

wot am i clicking

[cosmic yoke]

👀

[cyan ravine]

Click power near the middle

It'll say sse

Just press the play button

And watch the cpu package power

[cosmic yoke]

ai

[cyan ravine]

Gpu power too since it's there

Tell me the power numbers you see

[cosmic yoke]

cpu 240.65
gpu 231.23

as of rn

[cyan ravine]

Ok so cpu can do sse

Any errors?

[cosmic yoke]

not that i can see o-o

lemme sc

[cyan ravine]

Ok gpu power is very low though

So changing settings didn't fix it, it's a driver or firmware issue

[cyan ravine]

Do you have afterburner?

[cosmic yoke]

nop

download it?

[cyan ravine]

Any gpu tuning software?

[cosmic yoke]

no

[cyan ravine]

Ok scratch those

[cosmic yoke]

let occt run or i can stop it

[cyan ravine]

Can stop

I take it back, cpu seems fine

I'd try another ddu again tbh

[cosmic yoke]

lol ai

[cyan ravine]

One sec

[woven horizon]

If you do make sure to turn off windows update so it doesnt try to install something

[cosmic yoke]

they up to date so doubt it will try lol

[cyan ravine]

Use this guide
https://youtu.be/bP-2B14Nckw

[woven horizon]

yeah but when you use ddu windows will try to reinstall

[cyan ravine]

Should be the same as pato's but this I'm sure doesn't forget any steps

Then reinstall gpu driver, 522.25 or newer*

I know there's a newegg guide but that video is very thorough

[cosmic yoke]

newest one is 525.86 thats what i been updating it too after ddu

thanks though

[cyan ravine]

Do 522.25 if you have it

[cosmic yoke]

ai

[cyan ravine]

If this doesn't work, I think a mobi bios update might do something

[cosmic yoke]

my bios is up to date also

[cyan ravine]

Reflash bios then

[cosmic yoke]

ai

lemem do ddu first lol

[cyan ravine]

Maybe it's bifucating the lanes? I don't feel like that's gonna do 50%

Is there anything plugged into the second slot of your mobo

[cosmic yoke]

wym

cpu power 8pin?

[cyan ravine]

Pcie slot

[cosmic yoke]

no nothing

just using first slot

[cyan ravine]

Ok

[cosmic yoke]

downloading the 522.25 drivers rn then imma do ddu

[cyan ravine]

Np

If I stop responding at any minute I will be stuck in a blackout

Lots of lightning

[cosmic yoke]

aii all good

[cyan ravine]

It's all hitting like 5 minutes down the road in the same spot

[cosmic yoke]

rip

[cyan ravine]

Must be lightning rods there