building-and-recc-chat

[dapper fern]

For reals

[cyan ravine]

But 5950X is a little bit hot boi

[dapper fern]

Why

[cyan ravine]

That's just it's design

[dapper fern]

Dang that sucks

[cyan ravine]

So download occt

[dapper fern]

Ok

[cyan ravine]

Run a power test in it

[analog pulsar]

oooof really

[cyan ravine]

And use hwinfo64 to check the cpu frequency

[analog pulsar]

my 11900k was 32C idle and 90C underload

[cyan ravine]

Yes mine idles at 55C most of the time

[dapper fern]

Let me put it back up and check

[cyan ravine]

Very normal esp. when you don't have an offset mount

Cos it measures tdie temps and those take forever to drop down to 30-ish

Unlike the CCD's which are already down in the 30's

So the CCD's (your cores basically) will spike to 50 or 60C then straight back down to the 30's but tdie takes foreverrrrr to come back down

So by the time your cores spike up again for usage, the tdie isn't even below 50 yet

Unlike intel which the IHS is a lot thinner so it drops very quickly

If you do a stock power test for it and you see over 4ghz, maybe 4.2GHz across all cores then it'll be in working order @dapper fern

Hopefully not too hot at stock, only 145W

[dapper fern]

just got the software now

its iown now

[cyan ravine]

Hwinfo 64 open?

[dapper fern]

yes enable sensors

[cyan ravine]

Ye sensors only

Then open occt and left hand side middle, it'll have a few options, click power

Or cpu, either one

Power also does gpu but it's quicker

[dapper fern]

i see power

[cyan ravine]

Now double checking, which psu?

Before I say go lol

[dapper fern]

850

[cyan ravine]

Ok go

[dapper fern]

which option do i check from the power

there is a drop menu

[cyan ravine]

Sse is fine

Then tell me the frequency of all cores

[dapper fern]

its running

[cyan ravine]

Ideally effective frequency if you can find it

And temps

[dapper fern]

is it any of those

[cyan ravine]

That's occt not hwinfo64

[dapper fern]

oh yeah wait lol

[cyan ravine]

Open the tab core effective clocks

Then grab a screenshot of that and then scroll down and grab a screenshot of cpu temps

[dapper fern]

this one you mean

[cyan ravine]

Ok power and temps look fine

Can you expand the core clocks tabs pls

Core clocks and core effective clocks

[cyan ravine]

Ok power and temps are fine, you can stop the test

[dapper fern]

now is at 70

[cyan ravine]

That's fine

[dapper fern]

it keeps going up and down

[cyan ravine]

It can run 95C all day and be fine

[dapper fern]

spikes fast take a bit to go down then up

[cyan ravine]

What matters is your full 100% load state is 66C

[dapper fern]

gotcha

[cyan ravine]

So your mount is fine

But you should enable PBO

You do that through bios

[dapper fern]

ok let me find it is that what it called exactly

[cyan ravine]

Precision Boost Overdrive

[dapper fern]

gotcah

[cyan ravine]

Enabled - not manual

[dapper fern]

ok

[cyan ravine]

Manual is for if you want to do all the tuning by hand including curve optimiser

[dapper fern]

It was auto set to manual

I set it to enabled now

[cyan ravine]

Ok

Also turn off asus multicore enhancement

Aka MCE

It can overvolt the cpu and actually hurt it

[dapper fern]

are those just enabled by default or what tho

[cyan ravine]

MCE likely is

[dapper fern]

Okay going back into bios

Can’t find it

[cyan ravine]

Should be under the second tab in advanced

Tweaking tab or whatever it's called

Partway down

Asus multicore enhancement

Or multithread or something with an m and c lol

[dapper fern]

Okay I even searched it can’t find it

[cyan ravine]

Interesting

Gimme a sec

[dapper fern]

Okay

[cyan ravine]

This

[dapper fern]

I have extreme tweaked and advanced two

Tap

Tweaked

Tweaker

[cyan ravine]

Yeah look in tweaker

It should be in there not too far down

[dapper fern]

Not there idk

[cyan ravine]

Hmm alr, well did you enable ai overclocking or no

If you didn't - good

[dapper fern]

There is something called ai overclock tuner

[cyan ravine]

Leave that disabled

[dapper fern]

And is a docp

Set to standard

[cyan ravine]

Leave that enabled

Ye

And double check pbo is still turned on

[cyan ravine]

THERE IT IS

Core performance boost

Disable that

Why change the name ffs Asus

[dapper fern]

Idk lol

We’ll disabled now

Well

[cyan ravine]

Pbo still on yes?

[dapper fern]

Yes says enabled still

Man I’m bios cpu temps are 60 lol

[cyan ravine]

Ok leave bios and run the tests again

[dapper fern]

In

[cyan ravine]

It's fine

[dapper fern]

Okay

[cyan ravine]

Your cpu is fine just born a little weird mmk

[dapper fern]

It’s from Amazon that’s why

Lol

[cyan ravine]

What matters is your 100% load temps were actually low af

66C is low

[dapper fern]

So run the Occt scan again

[cyan ravine]

Ye

Then send those screencaps again

[dapper fern]

Ok

[analog pulsar]

@cyan ravine is it fixed

[cyan ravine]

Pretty much, just making sure the cpu is running the right settings

[analog pulsar]

nice

[cyan ravine]

Much better, temps?

[dapper fern]

idk if the test makes it hot but id say the same 70 now

[cyan ravine]

Power tho

[dapper fern]

i bought more paste comes tomorrow i will repaste cpu again for the 4 times

[cyan ravine]

I wanna see power draw

[dapper fern]

where is it

[cyan ravine]

Just under temps here

Specifically cpu package power

[cyan ravine]

Yup, all looks good now

[dapper fern]

i guess the nzxt coolers are bad lol

[cyan ravine]

Run a cinebench test real quick and if you score like, 27K, you're good

R23 cinebench

[cyan ravine]

It's handling the chip fine like any other decent 360 aio

You don't need a repaste imo

Just run cinebench and lmk the scores after 1 pass

Single and multi

[dapper fern]

their website asked make a account

but software not named cinebench

[cyan ravine]

Don't need to make an account

Go to microsoft store app

[dapper fern]

oh ok

[cyan ravine]

Type cinebench

And download

[dapper fern]

any settings to chnage or

run single core or multicore

[cyan ravine]

Just run one pass of both

[dapper fern]

ok

this is cool lol

[cyan ravine]

You'll see an orange bar on the bottom left, mouse over it will give your score

[dapper fern]

i like it

gotcha

runs for 9 minutes

[cyan ravine]

As soon as it appears that's a rough score - good enough for this

[dapper fern]

ok

[cyan ravine]

Don't need to do full 10 minute run

[dapper fern]

gotcha

looks like it will finish the full 10 minutes to show a score

[cyan ravine]

Ah single core yeah

[dapper fern]

yes

[cyan ravine]

That one is at least 5 minutes on 5000 series

For one full render or pass

[dapper fern]

i see

well this test doesn't stress cpu right

cpu z does that right

[cyan ravine]

Everything we've done has been stressing the cpu

[dapper fern]

gotcha

[cyan ravine]

Again, cpu is totally fine

25C under the maximum safe temp lol

[dapper fern]

how much does it go before it shuts down tho

those amd cpus

[cyan ravine]

It won't

99% of the time it'll save itself from going too hot

And slow down at 95C

[dapper fern]

gotcha

never had it reach that high

always 8ish

80

[cyan ravine]

Ya you don't need to repaste rn lol

Not unless you OC it

[dapper fern]

okay

[cyan ravine]

And not all core OC - that can kill the chip

[dapper fern]

cuz i really hate doing that

[cyan ravine]

OC is manual PBO and curve optimiser - the right way to OC

[dapper fern]

i never oced cpu before just gpu and used that auto one lol

should i overclock the 3080 ti i have

[cyan ravine]

Up to you tbh

[dapper fern]

will it be better tho

[cyan ravine]

Can be

Depends on your luck

Often yes

[dapper fern]

it runs well on hitman 3 max settings 4k but sometimes it hitches

idk what causing it to do so

[reef moss]

Hello can I get an experienced builders help

[dapper fern]

okay the test for single core done

its 21788

running the second one

[reef moss]

My buddy has a 1k budget and needs a gaming / streaming pc

sadge

[dapper fern]

ask inside the general tap more people there on

[reef moss]

yeah I tried haha

[dapper fern]

sometime they miss it try again lol happens with me all the time

[reef moss]

Its the last message sent in general lol

[dapper fern]

yeah i see it lol

maybe busy idk

[reef moss]

Sobbing metaphorically

[dapper fern]

i don't have much experience i just go after high end builds lol i don't pay rent or stuff so i keep my money

i had a 500 budget when i started

had a 2600 and a rx580

[reef moss]

sheesh

My personal budget in like 2 weeks is gonna be 1800

1800-2k

[dapper fern]

thats much better then mine lol

cpu single core is 1101 and muticore 21788

[cyan ravine]

R23 yes?

Those are a bit low, go back to bios and flip core performance boost back on and then run those tests again

That mightn't have been MCE after all

[dapper fern]

The temps are better now in cod 53

Literally

Do I still go back in enable that

[lucid breach]

any recommendations on argb fans?

[frigid night]

Arctic P12s

[lucid breach]

those were the ones i was looking at just wanted to make sure lol

[frigid night]

Yep, good value:perf

[lucid breach]

whats the recommendation on how many fans intake to exhaust ?

[hallow glen]

more intake

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Your cinebench scores should be around 26K, and around 1570-ish at the minimum

It's definitely doing better than before but another bios switch needs flipping

I'm outta time to help tho

[dapper fern]

Out if time

Meaning

You gotta go

Gotcha well thank you for everything

[zenith cargo]

is the ryzen 7 5800x worth it?

[hallow glen]

for what price

[frigid night]

Shame on you for not being here 24/7 to help everyone in need.

[zenith cargo]

$199

[analog pulsar]

How dare you

[weary galleon]

Choosing a cpu involves a lot of factors. Price, what you're using it for, do you already have a motherboard that supports it, ect.

[desert nebula]

If I have a 1660 ti what psu should I buy

[little osprey]

Well what CPU are you using with the 1660 Ti?

[desert nebula]

Ryzen 5 1600

[strong raft]

"I forgot the part where that's my problen" - Spiderman.

[jagged rivet]

i represent you my future build

1.Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX PC
Smart Case, Black, CC-9011212-WW

2.CORSAIR RM850 CP-9020235-NA 850 W ATX 80 PLUS GOLD Certi�ed Full Modular Power Supply

3.Intel Core i7-13700K - Core i7 13th Gen

4.CORSAIR Vengeance RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 5200 (PC5 41600)

5.Seagate BarraCuda ST2000DM008 2TB 7200 RPM 256MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive Bare Drive - OEM

6.NZXT Kraken Z Series Z73 - Liquid Cooler with LCD Display

7.ASUS Prime Z690-P LGA 1700 (Intel® 12th&13th Gen) ATX motherboard (PCIe 5.0, DDR5,14+1 Power Stages,3x M.2,2.5Gb LAN,

8.Western Digital WD_BLACK SN770 M.2 2280 1TB PCIe Gen4 16GT/s, up to 4 Lanes Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

9.ASUS TUF Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 OC Edition Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 12GB GDDR6X, LHR, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Dual Ball Fan Bearings,

any comments ?

10.Logitech GPRO Wireless Gaming Mouse

[stoic island]

try using this, makes things easier to look at
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

hard to comment on things without a price

[jagged rivet]

yup ur right

but can't find corsair vengenance ram 32 gb with ddr5

the only i see is ddr4

[stoic island]

Check what motherboard you chose

Motherboards are either ddr4 or ddr5, not both

[sand forum]

is this a good build at all? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/skellamator/saved/#view=j7CTMp

[mossy venture]

it's private

[sand forum]

oh my fault

try now

[mossy venture]

no it's pretty bad for the price

one sec

[sand forum]

this is my friends build im just here to see if its good because we both have no clue on anything

[mossy venture]

this is much cheaper and a lot better https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8ZZcPX

and windows is free to use

[jagged rivet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WPnpJM

[mossy venture]

that's pretty overpriced

[jagged rivet]

yup

[mossy venture]

i keep hitting enter instead of '

[sand forum]

no cpu cooler?

[mossy venture]

stock cooler

[sand forum]

ahh

[jagged rivet]

i will checkout the electronic markets and online markets like amazon or ebay

[mossy venture]

i'd get g360a

mobo is super overpriced for what you get

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bqmCv3

[woven horizon]

That cooler is 59.99 on ebay b stock

without the RGB fans

[jagged rivet]

you meant me ?

[mossy venture]

check that list

[jagged rivet]

sure

[jagged rivet]

i will check it out

[woven horizon]

Ill get the link 1 sec

[woven horizon]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/354106545275

[limber oyster]

What do y'all think of this as a portable m-itx build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nvjnFg

[jagged rivet]

i could use the case and the psu you mentioned it would save my money and the psu have a good performance

but about the rams and motherboard i would prefer mine especially DDR5 for my intel core i7 13th gen

[mossy venture]

ddr5 isn't really worth it, and a $300 mobo is just excessive

[woven horizon]

too much psu

[jagged rivet]

and the alo you guys mentioned is good but i prefer nzxt because of how it looks cool and hot lol

[mossy venture]

can do much better

[mossy venture]

nzxt products are almost always overpriced and mediocre

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b2rMKp

[woven horizon]

Mucho Gusto!

[jagged rivet]

i agree with you at this point that its overpriced but im soo excited for it about gifs and how it looks

[limber oyster]

I need 6 cores and for it to be easily carryable...that case doesn't look easily carryable

[jagged rivet]

there is another alo CORSAIR iCUE H150i

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2PzPLs

[woven horizon]

Cant argue with that

[mossy venture]

same as nzxt answer

can add a lil lcd display in the pc easily and much cheaper

[woven horizon]

Can also buy some used parts and save more

[jagged rivet]

yup uhhhhh

the scary thing i dont trust online shopping i dont want to take risk because of the sellers , idk if the seller is trusted or not

did anyone faced troubles with shipping ?

[woven horizon]

I buy almost everything from ebay. If it doesnt work send it back and get a refund. I buy mostly for parts machines. 90% of them have been all good.

Bought this. It was a scam return to the seller. All it needed was a bios update and I had to reflow the GPU.

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7tQdwc

How about this?

[woven horizon]

PSU is overpriced, use the stock cooler, Do you need 32GB of ram in your carry on pc?

[limber oyster]

I'd rather have 32 and not need it than to have 16 and need more

[woven horizon]

Also a good pack of fans I buy those b stock on ebay

[limber oyster]

I play lots of modded games like Minecraft, Skyrim, etc as well as Forza horizon 4 and 5

[woven horizon]

I say B stock and they are no longer available

[limber oyster]

I'm just trying to make a small, semi-easily portable m-itx build that I can take with me to work when I have absolutely nothing to do or I need to stay over for a few days due to weather

[woven horizon]

You also might need 1 more fan splitter with that mobo

[limber oyster]

That's fine

I could always get a 10 fan splitter

[woven horizon]

Gross fan hubs always break

[limber oyster]

Not mine

I've had it for 5 years

[woven horizon]

I just havent had the best of luck then 😦

[limber oyster]

People also say Corsair RAM sucks, but I've ran multi kits across multiple systems w/o failure

[woven horizon]

I bought my kit 3 months ago and xmp has already become unstable.

[limber oyster]

I have a kit that's 3 or so years old and still going strong

[woven horizon]

LPX i havent had issues with but the rgb pro I cant seem to get a good kit.

I decided to swap to balistix rgb

[jagged rivet]

i will try my luck with some parts if i didn't found it in electronic shops that is in my city

[tiny tusk]

Not sure if this is the right chat but my mobo is showing as my cpu not being detected i reseated the cpu and switched cables for the cpu power no luck its a intel i9-13900k

[jagged rivet]

thanks guys for your info

[woven horizon]

I know its hard to trust online. I once was like that. If I paid money I wanted it right then.

[woven horizon]

What motherboard

[tiny tusk]

Msi pro z690-a

[woven horizon]

Did you update the BIOS?

[jagged rivet]

yup but i will try to see the seller and the reviews and ratings

[tiny tusk]

I did not ill try that out thanks @woven horizon

[woven horizon]

13th gen does not work on 600 boards out of the box. Youll need to use flashback or a 12th gen CPU

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KdGJ2m

I actually like this case more

[woven horizon]

Making me want to build a mini pc.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vbVFyK

[limber oyster]

Lol

This is for when I have to stay over for days on end at work so...

I actually like the phanteks Evo shift...

Looks interesting

[unborn mesa]

Cant someone recommend a decent looking m-atx case?

[earnest olive]

is it really a scam return if the gpu needed a reflow

[woven horizon]

The motherboard was swapped, fans swapped, ssd removed, 5600xt was not the original one, psu cable extensions removed.

[earnest olive]

oh

yikes...

yeah, stories like this are why i never ship anything expensive

[woven horizon]

It was a disaster. Thankfully I was able to salvage it and turn a great profit.

Eh if they scam return take pictures and do a partial refund.

[earnest olive]

the only time i've shipped a pc for sale was to a friend

[woven horizon]

If they ask why you didn’t refund everything tell them that it was missing the original parts and once they are returned they will receive the entire amount minus shipping.

[earnest olive]

i don't want them to have the option to return at all lol

[woven horizon]

I do returns minus shipping both ways. It discourages them from doing returns when they lose 60 getting it to them and 70-80 sending it back.

They have to ask themselves is it really worth losing $140 to return this?

I don’t charge restock but some sellers charge up to 30% their return rate is likely a non zero number but it’s low.

[earnest olive]

my return rate is exactly 0%

[potent portal]

This is why I take videos every time I open a box containing expensive things. So if I do get a rock in my GPU box I have more than receipts.

Yeah me too, anything I'm selling worth more than $100 gets a handwritten paper with my username. It adds to buyer confidence.

I also have "warranty seals" for my refurbs with unique numbers

Because I do warranty them

[warm cave]

Hi builders. I don't know if this is the right place, but I'm looking to improve my 3D modeling rig with some beefier components, and while I have an okay knowledge on how to build. I thought I'd try to get some help with this one.

[frigid night]

What do you currently have? It helps to put a part list together in https://pcpartpicker.com/ and link the build here.

[warm cave]

Let me do a quick build to further explain

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W7BT3y

so this is my current build. I'm looking to up to a beefier CPU with 32 threads or approx. And at the same time, get a more updated MOBO(If needed). My current MOBO has very few fan headers, and even a splitter doesn't give me the optimal use of fans I want.
Also my 3080 eats up most of the space it has to offer, and I'm afraid that all my parts aren't being used optimally for it.

I'm also afraid doing these upgrades will make me have to start my PC from scratch, and will erase most of my work stuff I have currently on it.

But like I said. I have some pretty basic knowledge

I also don't have my OS loaded onto my SSD, for kind of the same fear of losing everything, the SSD was a more recent upgrade for the software I'm using.

[frigid night]

Do you have enough room on your 4tb to back up everything to it? Or is that your boot drive?

[warm cave]

It's kind-of just extra storage. My 1tb HDD is my boot drive

[frigid night]

alright. Back up everything you have stored on your 1tb HDD and 1tb SSD to your 4TB HDD. You can then use the SSD as your boot drive which would be miles better. Also, you would only need to upgrade cpu/mobo. Everything else is fine. Going the upgrade route of a new mobo you could also get you a NVME SSD which I would suggest.. a cheap 512gb for boot would be fine ($30 give or take). Also, what case do you have?

[warm cave]

I'm honestly not sure. It was originally a cheaper cyberware pre-built I bought years back and gutted most of the components out of (Besides the Mobo and a few fans).

And I'd like to get an NVME as well.

[frigid night]

ah, that explains why not much upgradeability for your fan space.

Alright. I'd also suggest grabbing a new case.

[warm cave]

There's literally 2 fan headers haha.

[frigid night]

Since your GPU is fine that def saves a good chunk.

[warm cave]

I was thnking of going with a ryzen 9 5900x.

[frigid night]

How do you feel about intel?

[warm cave]

I've actually never used Intel

[frigid night]

alright. I think a 13700k/kf would be good for you. Unless you want to spend the extra for a 13900k, but I'm not sure you need that.

[warm cave]

Whats the main difference?

[frigid night]

You would want a z690 board with bios flashback so you can flash a bios that supports 13th gen

[frigid night]

the i9 has 32 threads which is closer to what you were looking for.

[warm cave]

yeah, I'd probably shell out for the i9. Just for the threads.

[frigid night]

Alright.

[warm cave]

Is there a case you'd recommend as well?

[frigid night]

Do you need igpu?

[frigid night]

I'm gonna put together a list

[warm cave]

I actually have no idea what that is 😮

[frigid night]

well.. modify your list

[frigid night]

the cpu gpu

not the regular gpu

I'll take that as a no then

[warm cave]

Oh. I don't think so

[frigid night]

@warm cave I personally like the board I chose in this. It has bios flashback, wifi, looks good, and performs well. You could go with the MSI Pro for a tad cheaper, but I don't think it performs as well as the Tomahawk. I threw a 512gb NVME on the list as well. If you wanted something a little bigger for your boot drive, could opt for the 1tb of the same one. The case would be good for you to keep the stuff cool as well. Why pcpp is claiming it'll draw 800w, I'm not sure, but you should be fine with 850w psu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zdQG6r

@warm cave There are cheaper mobos/cases, but I figured reliability here is a must since it seems like your work is important.

[warm cave]

AWesome! I took a look. I great appreciate your time. And yeah, my work is really important. I'm just trying to get my rig faster, more cappable. Then it would just be finding the time to complete the build while making sure my data stays uncomprimised.

You mentioned backing eveyrything up on the 4tb.

How do you back up all that data and relocate it?

Also, would I have to get a new OS key?

I certainly don't have the one the computer came with haha

[weary galleon]

btw an SSD is gonna be more safe/reliable than an HDD

plus way faster

[frigid night]

If they are files that you can normally move around on your PC then you can just transfer them to your HDD.

[warm cave]

Ah okay!

[frigid night]

@warm cave This. I would suggest converting to NVME/Sata SSD for the future as your budget allows. In the long run (and even short run) you'll be thankful you did.

I would prioritize NVME though

[warm cave]

Yeah I wouldn't mind having an NVME solely dedicated to my boot. while using my
SSD for my work software.

[weary galleon]

1TB NVME will easily fit OS and most commonly used software

[warm cave]

Those go for an arm and a leg right? I think I've actually seen em for about $100?

[weary galleon]

100/tb is pretty typical for SSDs at this point

some are cheaper some are more expensive

[warm cave]

OH! Ontop of all that. How do I optimize my cooling?

[frigid night]

the Arctic AIO I put in there will be the main source of cooling for the CPU. It's liquid cooling. You'll want to put that in the front of the case with the fans as intake. You'll want 3 fans on top for exhaust and 1 fan in the rear as exhaust.

I suggest grabbing arctic p12s since they are good performers.

[warm cave]

Thank you 🙂

[weary galleon]

2 intake 4 exhaust?

[frigid night]

3 intake 4 exhaust

it's how I ran my 4000D with no problems

[weary galleon]

oh 360mm rad

[empty pollen]

why using a z690? why not a z790?

[weary galleon]

still negative pressure though

[frigid night]

ddr4 read up a bit

[frigid night]

he already has a build

[empty pollen]

there are z790s with ddr4

oh

[frigid night]

I didn't know that

[empty pollen]

sadly you are losing a lot of potential goin dd4 on the 13th gen 😦

[frigid night]

he already has ddr4

trying to get him an upgrade cheapest way possible.

he needs something with as many threads as he can for his 3d work

The only thing new in that list I gave is cpu/mobo/case/aio/nvme

If you wanna revise it to something better that'd be cool.

[frigid night]

without sacrificing reliability.

[earnest olive]

100/tb is premium at this point

mp33 is a fantastic nvme that's frquently 60-70/tb

in usd anyways

[weary galleon]

I'd say if you averaged out some of the best options it would be around $100

But yes there are cheaper ones that work well

[weary galleon]

A lot of the upper mid range to high range ones are $100-130

[earnest olive]

no reason to buy any gen 3 drive besides mp33, so the other options would be gen4 drives

unless other gen3 drives are on heavy sales

like mp34 gets close to mp33 sometimes

[frigid night]

I may have ran with only 2 up top. I can't remember now.

[fleet bolt]

hi does anyone have a good build for 500-600 dollars

[mossy venture]

usd?

are you in the us?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KCfhxs

[fleet bolt]

yes

ty

[fossil cedar]

thats like 700

hmm i think we can bring this down a good bit

[fleet bolt]

o

would you mind giving me a build?

[earnest olive]

delete case problem solved

[fleet bolt]

😭

[earnest olive]

case is an optional component

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/23fhxs

[earnest olive]

the serious answer is to drop the gpu yeah

[fossil cedar]

and change to better cheaper psu

[earnest olive]

ree mech

remove pato techie

[fossil cedar]

perfectly fine for a 6600 bonk

also cheapest

[earnest olive]

you're perfectly fine

[fossil cedar]

😳

[earnest olive]

😳

[fossil cedar]

its not even a tuesday my guy 👉 👈

[earnest olive]

every day is homie appreciation day

[fossil cedar]

thanks homie

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-rule-740-gif-25127296

[fleet bolt]

will there be good deals on parts near black friday time?

[fossil cedar]

probably not?

[cyan ravine]

Maybe maybe not

We could flip a coin?

[frigid night]

I call heads

[cyan ravine]

Ok you get ehads

[frigid night]

https://tenor.com/view/despierta-ya-gif-24011402

[cyan ravine]

I'll take heads, pato tails

[viscid perch]

Anyone know where on the b560 motherboard i connect the coolant with the fans and additional fans?

[potent portal]

Which B560 and which cooler

[viscid perch]

Asus b560 and kraken z73

I think it’s the one called cpu_opt

[potent portal]

CPU_OPT is for extra fans that need to run the same speed as the main CPU fan

[potent portal]

https://youtu.be/3bzSBKgUghs?t=1185

Timestamped to start at cabling

[viscid perch]

My board doesn’t have pump fan1 option

[potent portal]

Which model is it?

The header you use varies by model

[languid nimbus]

Alright lads I’m needing some help also please. When I built this pc, my buddy swore he knew how, but didn’t at all, lmao. So I’m going through trying to rewire it now. First question: where does the power sw & reset sw go?

Prime Z390-A btw

[viscid perch]

It’s from a prebuilt Check this out on @Newegg: ABS Master Gaming PC - Intel i5 10400F - GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559/p/N82E16883360189?Item=N82E16883360189&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-189-_-11062022

[potent portal]

RST = Reset
PWR = Power
GND = Ground
NC = Not Connected

The good thing about switches is positive and negative don't technically matter

[languid nimbus]

Okay, gotcha. Is there a difference in either of the PLED ones then? Can I use the one on top or on bottom?

[potent portal]

PLED is for the light that shows it's on, HDD LED is the one that shows activity on a hdd/ssd

Those ones polarity matters, + to + and all

[languid nimbus]

Ahhh okay. Thanks so much!

[potent portal]

Unfortunately that doesn't narrow it down, but the model is printed on the board itself

[viscid perch]

Any good motherboard combos out there

I have an i5 right now

[potent portal]

If you're near a microcenter there's a deal on AMD, you get a free kit of DDR5 and $50 off a motherboard with a 7000 series CPU

[languid nimbus]

Another question: I have this cable that splits into two of the same 8-pin ends. Is it okay to use both of these for my 3080 with two 8pin connections, or do I need to use separate cables?

[viscid perch]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006113/intel-core-i7-11700k,-asus-z590-plus-tuf-gaming-wifi,-cpu-motherboard-combo

Any opinions on this one

[potent portal]

Definitely separate ones

[languid nimbus]

Awesome ty

[paper summit]

Thats actually incredible

[wheat coral]

without oc youre fine to use 1 cable

i think sep cables looks better though

[languid nimbus]

Yeah they’re just kinda weird because they separate and I’m trying to have a clean build so i dunno

[potent portal]

I wouldn't be spending that much on a 2 year old dead platform, and especially not that CPU which somehow managed to be worse than the 10700

[wheat coral]

11700k is faster than the 10700 in every case though no?

thats what i saw on gns vid

[viscid perch]

Didn’t find the link to the combo you mentioned

[potent portal]

Cut the unused ends off

[potent portal]

It's in store only

That's why I said if you're close to one

[languid nimbus]

Can I actually do that or is that satire lol

[potent portal]

No really you can cut them

[wheat coral]

tape them off

ye

[potent portal]

Yep

[wheat coral]

yo uactually can 💀

tape off the ends individually though

obvi

[potent portal]

Just don't let the metal inside short

[wheat coral]

ye

[languid nimbus]

Gotcha, yeah I may do that, idk

[wheat coral]

or get cable extnesions and hide the uglies

[potent portal]

Yeah, and you can get sleeves to hide the electrical tape too

[languid nimbus]

Does either end specifically have to go into the psu?

[potent portal]

Yes

[languid nimbus]

Damnit

Lmao

[wheat coral]

https://www.amazon.com/Antec-Cables-Sleeved-Extension-Connector，White/dp/B09ZLK9YB3/

[potent portal]

You can make magic smoke if you do the wrong end

[wheat coral]

(if you get cable extensions make sure tis got the right stuff)

i relinekd better ones

[languid nimbus]

Yeah mine only has 2 8-pin as opposed to the ones with 3

[wheat coral]

yeah saves you on upgrade though

[languid nimbus]

True

[wheat coral]

theres my ugly cable management

[potent portal]

On a 3080 triple 8 isn't critical unless you plan to OC a lot

[wheat coral]

^

[languid nimbus]

hmmm

[wheat coral]

just the other kit i linked only had 1x8 and 1x6

so i edited it to a bettert onme

[languid nimbus]

Don’t think you wanna see where I’m at currently 💀

[wheat coral]

35$ seems worth for some good looking cables though

[languid nimbus]

It’s ruf

[languid nimbus]

Yeah for sure, the bad thing is that this case is smaller on the back side and the cables for my psu are THICC

[potent portal]

I doubt it's worse than mine, if it wasn't glass it would be bowing out from how tight it is

[wheat coral]

lol

4000 series from corsair is so easy to build in

[languid nimbus]

Yeah this 220t is

Tight

Currently lmao

[wheat coral]

oomf

[languid nimbus]

Yee

[wheat coral]

yeah i hate that evga sleeves their cables like that

(assuming evga)

[potent portal]

So is my Torrent but I've just got so much stuff inside of it including several sata drives which adds to the disaster a lot

[wheat coral]

yeah ive got 2 sata drives and the hdd im considering to remove

i literally dont use it

[potent portal]

I use my HDD still, even with my server handling most of my long term storage now

Currently I have more than 2TB of data on my system

[wheat coral]

lol

[potent portal]

And that's after cleaning up games I don't play any more

[languid nimbus]

I have a 2tb hdd and 1tb nvme but I wanna upgrade my nvme

[wheat coral]

"game"

i like to think its one game thats 1.4tb

[potent portal]

I have my desktop, documents, and downloads redirected to E

[potent portal]

That's actually 2 1TB sata drives in RAID 0 so I only put replaceable data on it lol

[languid nimbus]

I think this board has 2 nvme slots?

[potent portal]

I have another 6TB stored on my server not including my storage spaces backup 💀

[wheat coral]

my new board has 4, current has 2

[languid nimbus]

Geeeeeezus

Get all 4tb nvme

[wheat coral]

nah, likely just a 2tb pcie4 drive

[languid nimbus]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/crucial-p3-4tb-internal-ssd-pcie-gen-3-0-nvme/6509716.p? EZ

They’ve actually come down in price pretty significantly

That same drive like a year ago I stg was $500+

[wheat coral]

that’s 120$ more than my 11700k 💀

cod damn

i dorgot pcie4 drives are crazy

i just want direct storage lol

[tawny fiber]

Gen 3 drives can do that

[analog pulsar]

@languid nimbus since you rewiring can you do mine

[languid nimbus]

I can ASSURE you that you don’t want me to hahaha

[potent portal]

I'll just leave this here
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-MP600-PCIe-Gen4-NVMe/dp/B0BJL1FRRC

[languid nimbus]

Whatever you’re watching on tv looks a lil frisky

[languid nimbus]

Dang, OOS, I was ab to order it

[potent portal]

Right? It's only a little over a grand

Anyone can drop that

[analog pulsar]

what to do with all this storage

[potent portal]

Moar gamez

[analog pulsar]

i installed like my almost my whole steam lib

[languid nimbus]

I just need to win the lottery first

[potent portal]

You could probably fit another 4 installs of CoD games before you run out of space

[languid nimbus]

Damn I’m torn on whether to run the pcie over the top of the gpu or under it

[analog pulsar]

I might TRY to fix it when i get 13600k

[languid nimbus]

It’s lots and lots of fun 👍👍

[potent portal]

Is it gen 3? And does it have a heatsink?

[languid nimbus]

Yeah gen 3

[analog pulsar]

how is everyone so nice

my mobo cable feels extra long for no reason

[languid nimbus]

Here’s the front so far, ignore the cpu I’m replacing the cooler 💀

[potent portal]

Under the GPU will keep it cooler but the top slot will be slightly better latency

[analog pulsar]

wow you have bottom hole

[analog pulsar]

4090 comes into chat

[potent portal]

Same thing

[analog pulsar]

nothing will stay cool

[languid nimbus]

Dang

[potent portal]

Any amount of extra airflow over a device with no heatsink will keep it cooler, even if it's warm air

[analog pulsar]

my top slot had heatsink on both side ssd but my other 3 slots are only heat sink on top

[potent portal]

The top slot would be best in your case then

[languid nimbus]

Yeah I’ll probably go top. Gotta figure out where to run the 8pins, through the side or the bottom

[analog pulsar]

sadly i broke a screw in the ssd slot plus my ssd is 3.4 gen so i putg it in 3 gen

but really ikts running 3.2

@potent portal i mean can you put ssd in slot without screw if theres heatsink on it

[potent portal]

If the heatsink is secured sure

[analog pulsar]

my SSD is 40C

where its at rn

[potent portal]

Especially if there's an adhesive pad to hold the SSD to the heatsink

[analog pulsar]

its starting to melt

[potent portal]

The adhesive?

[analog pulsar]

the black stuff to keep ssd cool

not melt

just weak?

like i went to take ssd out and ssd stock to it but when i ripped sdd off the black stff came with it

little bit

its just become unsticky

[analog pulsar]

hmmmmmm

ahhhhhhhhhh

[wheat coral]

wym

[analog pulsar]

i hate my brain

I meant how is EVERYTHING so nice

[wheat coral]

like how are all the cables managed so well

yeah i got tht i just didnt understand

youre fine

spent like an hour on just cable management when i first got it

[potent portal]

Sure but that's easier with a sata drive, a gen 4 nvme for $135 per TB is actually not a bad deal for the latest thing

[mossy venture]

I'm doing my first actual custom build by myself hopefully next weekend

[wheat coral]

yaaaaay

[mossy venture]

Gonna look like ass but idrc

[analog pulsar]

oh

[wheat coral]

just take time on your cables

do it slow, i dont assume youre really in a rush

[mossy venture]

Ima try my best but I'm not gonna lose my mind over it, I'm not too worried about looks

[wheat coral]

fair

just dont get lazy 😒

[potent portal]

The side panel closes? It's fine for me

[mossy venture]

Clc 280 comes with lga 1700 bracket, right?

[wheat coral]

no clue, i got mine before 1700 was out

likely yes, its in their updated manual

[mossy venture]

If I get round to building and don't have the bracket I'd be upset lol

Aside from that I don't think I've anything else to worry about, unless mobo is dead from amazon warehouse

[wheat coral]

https://www.evga.com/support/manuals/files/EVGA_CLC_Kit_Manual_2021.pdf

if you get a mid-late 2021 clc 280 at minimum you should be good

[mossy venture]

Cool

Yeah I got it from antonline though, so chance older stock

[wheat coral]

if not, email evga for a bracket, i dont think theyll just say no

[mossy venture]

I should check lol

[wheat coral]

should be fine, i doubt you got over a year old stock

[mossy venture]

Yeah fair

Question is do I just reuse my rmx 650, or just use the gt 850 I bought pre emptively

13600k+ 3060 ti either one would be fine

[cyan ravine]

I'd use the gt 850

[wheat coral]

i say gt850, save the 650 for a spare build or resell it

[cyan ravine]

Makes changes later easier

[mossy venture]

That's what I'm thinking, also easier bc rmx is in my current build

[wheat coral]

850 is a better unit too iiirc

[mossy venture]

Other nice thing is I have a spare 1660, so I can sell the pc as a whole without ram, and throw a spare ssd in

[wheat coral]

or buy a 40$ kit of ddr4 and sell it as a complete system for quite a bit

[mossy venture]

Gt is high pri B, best evga g_ unit that's a b tier

[mossy venture]

Yeah true

Rmx is one of the better A tiers, but either way it'll be the same experience with the 850 possibly being able to support gpu upgrade in a few years

[wheat coral]

def

[mossy venture]

Funny part is I got the 850 for less than the 650

[wheat coral]

i paid 30$ for my 650 g2, i dont regret it, ill definitely need to upgrade for a high end gpu in the future thouhg

[mossy venture]

650 was I think $60 on amazon, 850 was $50 off b stock

[wheat coral]

lol

[mossy venture]

Just throw a 4090 on that g2

Should make it suffer well enough

[wheat coral]

i mean with my 7700k that'd be fine, considering its a 450w card at stock tdp

my 1080 on this unit has drawn 500w consistent before and it didnt care

[mossy venture]

I mean maybe, and g2 should be ae to handle the transients which I think are up to 600w

[wheat coral]

should be fine

but with 11700k id actually be pushing it

considering with oc it can draw like 200w

[mossy venture]

Depends on scenario, 1440p or 4k gaming would probably not go well

And if anyone buys that thing for 1080p, burn

[wheat coral]

lol

i need to get a 1440p monitor, just too expensive right now

[mossy venture]

I snagged an x27q for $170 after tax on prime day

I've been spending way too much money lately lol

$80 earbuds, $120 mobo, $170 monitor and soon to be $300 cpu

Just waiting for Friday

[wheat coral]

not bad

i paid 30$ for my 11700k lol

[mossy venture]

Nice thing about the monitor is it also gave my brother a huge upgrade

From 1050p60hz TN to 1440p 75hz ips

[wheat coral]

that is a huge upgrade

80% upgrade in resolution

[mossy venture]

I would've given him my old main one but he draws a lot, so better panel quality is important for him

[wheat coral]

yeah

[mossy venture]

That one was $120 used, which imo I overpaid for but I was super hype about 1440p and stupid and didn't know a thing about refresh rates lol

[wheat coral]

lol

[mossy venture]

Was a very nice side monitor though

[wheat coral]

i paid 120 for my 144hz 1080p

fine deal considering its quality

[mossy venture]

Mine was 140 iirc

New

[wheat coral]

ahh mine was used

[mossy venture]

Yeah it's decent, but I also don't have another similar specced monitor to compare it to

The 1440p ips one looked a lot better, but idk if it was because of resolution or panel type

[potent portal]

Linus did it on a 550W https://youtu.be/yU4CFhtS95Q?t=541

[wheat coral]

the 4090 is not a super high power draw card for what it is

roman reported ou can cut power by 33% if you drag the power slider down to 60%

and you lose 7% perf total by doing that

[mossy venture]

Yeah fair, and it doesn't spike anywhere near as badly as high 30 series if I remember hearing right

[wheat coral]

330w or so

[potent portal]

It did trip OCP after about 650W lol

Needed a 70% power target to not trip lol

[mossy venture]

I still care more about to 7900xtx

[wheat coral]

amd has always been awful for me

[mossy venture]

I can understand that, but personally idc about nvidia vs amd

[wheat coral]

i just care about my user experience

[mossy venture]

Before launch I was expecting 40 series to do a good bit better than it is

[wheat coral]

nv cont panel may be ugly as balls, but at least it doesnt crash any time i open it

[mossy venture]

I didn't have any big issues when I had my 6800xt, which is the main reason I'm not concerned

[analog pulsar]

Amd has been good this year

[mossy venture]

Aside from am5

That was laughable

Be back in a min or two

[potent portal]

That was mostly pricing that was laughable, and I kept saying it was just early adopter fees. Lo and behold, it's cheaper already.

I still say wait for Zen4 3D

It's about 3 months away by now

[mossy venture]

Doesn't the 13600k contend with the 7700x at $100 less?

With cheaper mobo and ram options?

[analog pulsar]

🤔

[mossy venture]

I do think zen 4 3d will be good, based on gains from 5800x vs 5800x3d

[potent portal]

You can get a 7700X from microcenter and get free memory and $50 off a board

[mossy venture]

I wonder if they'll also be releasing other am4 3d chips, since they said am4 isn't dead yet

Or if it's just 6000 series apus

[potent portal]

This is only speculation but I think only lower end stuff will be on AM4 due to platform limits, maybe a new gen APU

7800X3D and 7950X3D are the only confirmed so far

[mossy venture]

Which sucks, would be nice to have a 7600x3d

Imo makes more sense than a 7800x3d

[wheat coral]

7600x isnt fast enough cpu wise to make an x3d variant tbh

13600k slaps it up and down for the same price

[potent portal]

That would be technically difficult also since the disabled/cut cores means they need to cut the cache too

[wheat coral]

hell, the 12600k beats it

[leaden mauve]

yall talking about these zen 4's and your ddr five's meanwhile im good with the best platform ever

[analog pulsar]

Sure how much FPS you getting in games hmmm

[potent portal]

Honestly it's probably fine for all but the latest stuff

[leaden mauve]

plenty

https://tenor.com/view/watch-yo-tone-watch-your-tone-gif-24192648

[analog pulsar]

Okay play cyberpunk in 4k

[leaden mauve]

sorry i dont play scuffed games

[potent portal]

*1080p

[wheat coral]

how many is plenty

far you play roblox

[leaden mauve]

not really but ok

[analog pulsar]

[hallow glen]

Fart

[leaden mauve]

why must i always be bullied

unacceptable.

[hallow glen]

😃😁

[zenith cargo]

whats a normal cpu idle temp?

mines jumps from 55-80

[potent portal]

Idle doesn't matter at all

[zenith cargo]

maybe cuz I add enough thermal paste?

[potent portal]

Max load temp matters

[leaden mauve]

i idle at 99

[potent portal]

You don't count

[leaden mauve]

[zenith cargo]

copped the 5800x for $199 yk 🦾

[leaden mauve]

sometimes i idle at -196

[zenith cargo]

[potent portal]

LN2

[leaden mauve]

other times -78.5

[potent portal]

But yeah what's your temps under full load @zenith cargo

[wheat coral]

not the worst

[leaden mauve]

dont make me roast you

[potent portal]

Cinebench multi core is a good test

[hallow glen]

Fart

[wheat coral]

L

[leaden mauve]

i hate you

[wheat coral]

240w

nice efficiency

[leaden mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/електрошок-воскреситьмашину-electric-shock-resurrect-the-car-ouch-gif-15257685

[wheat coral]

single thread of a c2d

[leaden mauve]

alright fight me nerdge

[idle veldt]

hello

[zenith cargo]

idk, ill check

[idle veldt]

very new here

[wheat coral]

you dont say

[leaden mauve]

@idle veldt buying a laptop perhaps?

[idle veldt]

might have to ask some questions in the future

planning on building a gaming pc

[hallow glen]

||shush far||

[leaden mauve]

there's an actual reason why i asked lol

[idle veldt]

Valorant, csgo, overwatch, cod, pretty much all the most common ones

[analog pulsar]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-600-series-boards-for-raptor-lake

[idle veldt]

sorry for ignoring not buying a pc

[leaden mauve]

lol dont worry about it

[idle veldt]

lol

[stoic island]

When are you planning to build

[idle veldt]

but yeah man i’ll shoot some questions when i need to!

[idle veldt]

probably in the next month

[stoic island]

7900xt and co might be available by that point

[potent portal]

We'll be here when you're ready

[leaden mauve]

wow, what a friendly and welcoming mod. surely this individual is never mean to anyone for what platform they like

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-gif-24395495

true nature exposed

[analog pulsar]

I have question the mobos in your name what ram can they run

[potent portal]

DDR3, DDR3/4, and DDR4 in order

[analog pulsar]

That's pretty good

[leaden mauve]

x99 slow ddr4

x79 ddr3 faster than x99 ddr4 🗿

[analog pulsar]

Ddr4 still relivent

[potent portal]

Yeah very early DDR4 boards but still

It runs

[leaden mauve]

poorly

[analog pulsar]

If it runs its good

[leaden mauve]

only works right with A0 ddr4

[potent portal]

The question was "what can it run" not "what can it run well" lol

[leaden mauve]

yea well it barely even runs ddr4 sometimes

they shoulda just done ddr3 🗿

[wheat coral]

ordered my first thing off newegg!!

[potent portal]

You never did before? Banned

[wheat coral]

lol

[leaden mauve]

i rarely order off newegg

[wheat coral]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232242?Item=N82E16820232242

this stuff

[leaden mauve]

trash

[wheat coral]

it has the potential to be bdie

my kit of it is

[leaden mauve]

lemme show you what you shouldve gotten

[wheat coral]

is it 41$

brand new

[leaden mauve]

much better.

[wheat coral]

is it 41$

is it brand new

[leaden mauve]

fight me

[potent portal]

Literally everything has the "potential" to be b-die

[leaden mauve]

^

[wheat coral]

i mean i own it, and my kit is bdie, so im just hoping this is unbinned bdie as well

[leaden mauve]

you wouldnt want to buy low-bin bdie either. because thats just rejects lol

[wheat coral]

my kit of it does 3200 1t shrug

[potent portal]

Eh reject b-die still better than some average dies

[leaden mauve]

my a0 bdie does 4000C12 1.8V i think

i havent run it on a new enough platform yet to actually confirm it though...

[potent portal]

I haven't tested the max mine can do, I'm happy with 3800 14-13-13-30 1.48v

[wheat coral]

my rev.e hates anything past 3200

[leaden mauve]

yea i bought the 4 dimms from brutus

Id bin my own memory but ddr4 too expensive

just decided to go for pre-binned

[analog pulsar]

Newegg is trash

Copying Amazon cough

[desert nebula]

Is a gtx1050ti good for 60?

[potent portal]

You'll need to be a bit more specific than that

I assume you mean 60 fps, 1080p? In what game? With what CPU?

[desert nebula]

I mean 60$

[potent portal]

Oh, USD?

Or CAD?

[desert nebula]

Usd

[potent portal]

Yeah that's not a bad price

[analog pulsar]

lol

[desert nebula]

Is it good for Mc, wz, and mw?

What are the fps

[potent portal]

Minecraft yes CoD no

[desert nebula]

Any gpu that get atleasg 60 fps

[potent portal]

Warzone requires a 1650 minimum for 30 fps in 1080p

[desert nebula]

I found a 1660 ti for 110 and a ryzen 5 1400 for 50

[earnest olive]

1660ti for $110 is a good deal

grab that over the 1050ti

ryzen 5 1400 is pretty bad even for $50, avoid

get an i3-12100f if it's within your budget

[potent portal]

3600 minimum I'd say, my 2700 barely kept up with my 1060 in some games and those are all CPU heavy games

12100 is another good one yeah

[earnest olive]

12100f smacks 3600 in gaming

prob more than twice as good as the r5 1400

[potent portal]

Easily

[earnest olive]

gigachad 12100 almost kept up with my 3090

[potent portal]

1440p tho right?

[desert nebula]

1080p

[potent portal]

Yeah I meant mushroom and the 3090

[desert nebula]

So I should buy the 1660ti and search for a different cpu?

[earnest olive]

960p

yes, you can just buy an i3-12100 new tbh

[desert nebula]

Can u direct me to budget amd cpu?

[earnest olive]

i can't

they don't exist LOL

amd abandoned the budget market since 3000 series

just buy an i3-12100, brand loyalty is bad

[potent portal]

Are you asking because you already have an AMD board for the CPU?

[earnest olive]

if he was looking at a zen 1 cpu, doubtful

[desert nebula]

Yeah

[earnest olive]

welp

buy a used 3600 then

or step it up to a 5600 if you can afford it

[potent portal]

Used 3600 or a 5500

[earnest olive]

5500 🤢

[desert nebula]

How much should a used 3600 cost?

[potent portal]

Basically the same chip lol

[earnest olive]

USA?

[desert nebula]

Yeh

[earnest olive]

90 max

[desert nebula]

Ima go buy the 1660ti then the cpu

What about ram

[cyan ravine]

5600

[potent portal]

I have bad news...

[earnest olive]

was talking about i3/r3 market segment

[potent portal]

$100 is the lowest on ebay lol

[earnest olive]

well your first mistake was looking on ebay

[desert nebula]

Fb, or offer up

[earnest olive]

a 3600 just sold for 90 including shipping on hws 25 minutes ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/yo9qz3/usanj_h_ryzen_5_3600_cpu_wraith_stealth_cooler_w/ here's another one for $90 shipped

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/yo911i/usatx_h_ryzen_5_3600_w_local_cash_or_paypal/ 85 shipped

[potent portal]

Might as well get the 5500 for $100 new, then it has a cooler and warranty

[earnest olive]

cpu warranty is pretty whatever

[desert nebula]

Is this good? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16

[earnest olive]

5500 loses to 3600 in general

and some of these listings include stock cooler

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5 get this instead

[cyan ravine]

12100F + board vs 5600 + board they're within spitting distance of each other, doesn't matter if R3 or not

Like, $25 difference

[earnest olive]

$25 is pretty significant at this budget level

it's $28 right now assuming you pick the cheapest board that isn't complete ewaste

[potent portal]

Idk where you're seeing this but from what I see it compares pretty well

[desert nebula]

I picked a b450 ds3h v2

[earnest olive]

ok about the same then

still paying an extra $10-15 + tax for cpu warranty

[brittle tinsel]

hey, my buddy has a really old pc and is looking to build his own, but he is under the impression, building one is 2k plus.
I explained I built mine with a 3900x for $1500 and that you dont need 2 grand plus.
He plays VR games and is looking for a modern system. is there a good gaming build for around 1k or less?

[earnest olive]

not really worth it imo

that'll work out to $20-25 extra

for the same performance

just for a warranty on a part that pretty much never fails within 30 years

[brittle tinsel]

would someone be able to build him a list? I am not knowledgeable enough to help him out

[potent portal]

USA?

[brittle tinsel]

yessir

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nhpzsL done

[brittle tinsel]

wow, thanks!

[potent portal]

I should keep lists with parametric filters for these things...

I already made one for power supplies

[earnest olive]

lol i made one in like 2020 but it's outdated by now

i just did that from scratch

[brittle tinsel]

what would be a nvidia equivalent to the 6750?

[earnest olive]

3070

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6G4Ytn close enough ig

if he's willing to go used, 3070s go for like 350 used

can save a lot

could get a 3080 at this budget if used

[potent portal]

Yeah nvidia GPUs are dirt cheap used

Seen 3090s for like $600

[brittle tinsel]

wonder why they drop value so much?

[potent portal]

Mining died out

[earnest olive]

supply much larger than demand

[potent portal]

Farms sold off to reclaim investments