Bitfenix nova mesh se is also around $65
#building-and-recc-chat
cyan ravine
jagged ember
in respective order
cyan ravine
analog pulsar
what case fits the aorus gpu
upbeat lake
in respective order
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH
cyan ravine
what case fits the aorus gpu
The whole room
frank stirrup
what case fits the aorus gpu
7000d airflow
upbeat lake
thats a great looking case
jagged ember
analog pulsar
The whole room
bruh'
jagged ember
4000d airflow
wheat coral
love the 4000 series
upbeat lake
OH ive seen that before
upbeat lake
its pretty nice actually
upbeat lake
it fits the same style i want tbh
frank stirrup
love the 4000 series
Floppa have you ever been introduced to the 690 air?
jagged ember
really good airflow
upbeat lake
how much is it gbp?
🇺
frank stirrup
Widely regarded by me as the best case on the market
jagged ember
it's literally equivalent to the janky open air setup i had before i got the case lmao
frank stirrup
Floppa gone
wheat coral
frank stirrup
Who do i tell about the 690 air now
cyan ravine
Been a looong time since I checked uk prices
wheat coral
Floppa have you ever been introduced to the 690 air?
nope
frank stirrup
Oh floppa back
wheat coral
i think this was taken with my XR so it’s a bit bad
analog pulsar
frank stirrup
nope
Its a case with top 360mm rad mount, front 360mm, side 240mm rad mount, top front and side magnetic mesh and also magnetic front panel for easy cleaning all at a retail of like 65$
cyan ravine
<:noJarrod:900108738847985684> 🇺
frank stirrup
Looks nice too
wheat coral
that sounds kinda useless for most people
cyan ravine
I think the sadgest part is that aorus card doesn't have a very dense heatsink so it's almost needlessly big
cyan ravine
I think the sadgest part is that aorus card doesn't have a very dense heatsink s...
It weights a little less than the strix
potent portal
what case fits the aorus gpu
Something like the Torrent would be good for that with direct airflow from the bottom
Assuming you mean aorus 4090
cyan ravine
Torrent like one of two cases that fit it lol
analog pulsar
Something like the Torrent would be good for that with direct airflow from the b...
i remember someone telling me not to buy that case in first place bc its airflow directed and not watercooled
potent portal
Torrent like one of two cases that fit it lol
The Torrent is unique in that you can fit that extra long gpu AND a 360mm rad on the front
cyan ravine
Like, 100D would be my other guess
analog pulsar
The Torrent is unique in that you can fit that extra long gpu AND a 360mm rad on...
420 on front
potent portal
jagged ember
front panel be damned
potent portal
I couldn't get the rad to fit inside the case because of the tubes
analog pulsar
i mean do you "need" front pannel
cyan ravine
Man what that tiny there graphic, card inside there boy
analog pulsar
I couldn't get the rad to fit inside the case because of the tubes
yreally
potent portal
Nope that's why I'm leaving it lol
analog pulsar
wont they fit here
potent portal
Man what that tiny there graphic, card inside there boy
ikr I never thought the 3080 ti fe would look small
cyan ravine
Aorus master would look normal here
potent portal
wont they fit here
I've got the radiator offset lower than the bottom of the case
cyan ravine
Amongst this gargantuan of steel
analog pulsar
Man what that tiny there graphic, card inside there boy
WHOLEY HELL ITS SMALL
cyan ravine
analog pulsar
im buying that case
potent portal
Tubes touching the top of the case mount point
And the bottom of the radiator below the bottom panel
analog pulsar
oh
potent portal
No one really needs a 420mm anyway except enthusiast overclockers
analog pulsar
only $229
analog pulsar
No one really *needs* a 420mm anyway except enthusiast overclockers
i wanna OC my 13900k
potent portal
And? It's cooler than the 12900k from what I've heard
analog pulsar
sus
thats more reason to push it
1 left in stock
@potent portal whats temps on your cpu with 420
potent portal
65C on a 5800X when gaming on cpu heavy titles
I still hit 90C during benchmarks but not nearly as quick as before and it doesn't throttle as much. That's just the processor, not the cooling.
analog pulsar
I still hit 90C during benchmarks but not nearly as quick as before and it doesn...
yea
wicked frigate
Hey guys I need help so my Doreen for got the password to his laptop. So I removed the ssd and put it in my computer because he wants the photos saved in there. So how can I view that
potent portal
If it's encrypted you need the recovery keys but otherwise it'll just come up as a drive you can browse normally
broken lake
Uhhhhhh
I downloaded windows 11 and it looks like this
Does anyone know why?
It also won’t connect to the inter webs
wheat coral
no drivers for gpu is why it looks like that
wicked frigate
If it's encrypted you need the recovery keys but otherwise it'll just come up as...
So I accessed the folder but, if I make that ssd as my boot drive
Will the password still be there?
potent portal
Yes
Imagine the security risks if you could bypass a password that easily. You could access their browser password vault, emails, everything. If you're not logged in that stuff is all encrypted.
wicked frigate
Imagine the security risks if you could bypass a password that easily. You could...
Is there way I can reset it
I mean I got their pictures and all that that they wanted
But I want to boot on that ssd but its asking for password
potent portal
If they're signed into a local only account and not a Microsoft account it's possible but if it's a Microsoft account you need to reset the account password online.
gentle pollen
Can I get some thoughts on this combo? It's for my friend who's looking to get a budget gaming pc. No AMD.
He plays at 1080p on games like Minecraft, Destiny 2, Halo Infinite, Ark Survival Evolved, etc.
mossy venture
Can I get some thoughts on this combo? It's for my friend who's looking to get ...
Terrible for the price
mossy venture
Could switch to mp33 2tb, mp33 pro 2tb, or mp34 2tb if they need 2tb of storage
Otherwise, if wanting to spend more, could get a peerless assassin 120 se and a 5700x
gentle pollen
It's game storage, so switching to 3rd gen may not be the best idea I think.
mossy venture
That's exactly why it doesn't matter
You don't see a difference in games between gen 3 and 4
gentle pollen
Got it.
mossy venture
I dont even see a difference between my sata ssd and my 660p
gentle pollen
Until, I get confirmation from him, I need to stick with non-AMD parts though.
mossy venture
What's his budget?
gentle pollen
Around +/- 1200.
mossy venture
Similar price to the 3060 one https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MCrRRv
And one sec, let me adjust for lower budget
mossy venture
gentle pollen
At that price, can't complain either way, so I am just curious.
mossy venture
Wouldn't the 5600 be a bottleneck in games like Minecraft though?
In minecraft, you shouldn't be worried about a bottleneck anyways...
There's no way you'll have issues with frames in such a non demanding game
In games like valorant and csgo, maybe, but a 5600 still gets 200+ fps
There's really no point for more than that
You still gain more from the better gpu
gentle pollen
There's no way you'll have issues with frames in such a non demanding game
.... I wouldn't test that with Modded MC.
Which is what he plays a lot.
mossy venture
I've played some of the heaviest minecraft mods on my 3600
Hell my friends 3400g does all of the same ones fine
(With a gpu)
gentle pollen
Alright. As said, at that price I can't complain.
mossy venture
If a 5600 were to have issues with any type of mod, it'd be a sad day
gentle pollen
And I'll be damned if he complains at that price point.
gentle pollen
If a 5600 were to have issues with any type of mod, it'd be a sad day
😐 5600 is similar to a 10700f right?
mossy venture
Most similar to a 12400f
If he has issues with a 5600 in modded mc, I dont know what to tell you
wicked frigate
If they're signed into a local only account and not a Microsoft account it's pos...
When I say account I mean like when you boot your system up you can choose an account and I don’t think it’s Microsoft
So how would I do it?
weary galleon
.... I wouldn't test that with Modded MC.
modded mc sometimes is just bad perf no matter what because MC is made with Java
only time you really get a hardware bottleneck is on really low end PCs or if running multiple instances
granite delta
For an hx650 psu what power cable could I use for it because I don’t have the original
stoic island
This will probably help
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/psu-cable-compatibility
HX Plat use a bit different cables from HX Gold that uses different cables from HX Bronze/White
granite delta
It’s for the outlet
potent portal
When I say account I mean like when you boot your system up you can choose an ac...
It's impossible to tell for sure if it's a Microsoft account or not. Why don't you ask them? 95% chance it is and they just need to reset their account online
granite delta
I have a spare one but idk if it will work with it
stoic island
It’s for the outlet
the kettle lead? most of them should just work
potent portal
How do I know if it doesnt work just in case
Kettle leads are literally universal
stoic island
kettle lead is standard, unless it's really crappy, it'll be fine
granite delta
Alr ty
potent portal
I've used the same one since 2003
granite delta
Just have fear cause when I was younger I used a different one for my grandma’s old pc and the pc started smoking so yeah
But thanks
analog pulsar
@potent portal when they say up to 4.9 do they mean multicore or single core
stoic island
Remember p core clocks separate from e core clocks
leaden mauve
cinebench ASICs
leaden mauve
overclocking gang
analog pulsar
But boost clock tends to be single core
We were talking about running server and they said single core high clock is good for it
analog pulsar
stoic island
Single core performance depends on both clocks and ipc
analog pulsar
Might just buy an i9 and run server on main pc
analog pulsar
Higher ipc makes a core faster
What's IPC
potent portal
E-cores are still bad for servers
But you could make it work
If you disable the e-cores you still have 16 strong threads to use
obsidian wigeon
at that point i'd just get 12400 kek
potent portal
Or AMD 
stoic island
I mean, should still be the more the merrier
Thread director shouldn't give the server hosting software e cores if it doesn't need e cores
potent portal
For threads? Servers are nothing but background tasks so everything would get relegated to e-cores
stoic island
Game server? I'd assume it should get p cores assigned first
If not you prob have to mess with core affinity
potent portal
It would bounce between p and e which is even worse tbh
stoic island
Wack
potent portal
But yeah affinity works when it works
It assigns higher priority to foreground tasks and anything that's minimized gets lower priority and forced to favor e-cores
analog pulsar
It would bounce between p and e which is even worse tbh
Sounds like a great time tbh
analog pulsar
at that point i'd just get 12400 kek
Well we have to see what I do I have pc rn but I basically wanna change everything about it cough change mobos so I could just keep the i3 or change it to an i5 but minecraft server and other servers gunna have like 2 people on each for now and both games won't be open at same time
potent portal
Your 12100 can handle one at a time just fine, even with mods
It's running both it'll get iffy
analog pulsar
When I built pc I didn't think they would come out with new mobo I thought they would just put 13th gen on z690
potent portal
You still can just put 13th gen on Z690
analog pulsar
It's running both it'll get iffy
Oh yea I was gunna have both running in background but if I'm also using the computer will that work
analog pulsar
You still can just put 13th gen on Z690
Yea
But z790 has faster memory support "maybe"
potent portal
Why do you need faster memory? There's only a few percent difference between 4800 and 6400 anyway
I doubt 7200 will be significant
analog pulsar
I'm on ddr4 rn and if I'm gunna go out and buy ddr5 in gunna buy the fastest available and OC it
10000CL10 👀
potent portal
You'll be dropping about $600 on 32gb of top spec
analog pulsar
I saw like $300 6400
potent portal
Yeah and that's not the fastest by a long shot
analog pulsar
potent portal
7200 is already out and 7600 should be soon
analog pulsar
Fine I'll just keep what I have
Just buy ssd and cpu and gpu then
don't have much money to begin with man I just want best maybe people were righr I should have bought prebuilt 💀
@potent portal can I dm?
potent portal
Sure
On the note of 7200 memory, I've never heard of this brand. Has anyone else? https://www.amazon.com/v-Color-7200MHz-Compatible-7200Mhz-6200MHz/dp/B0BHYX3NJQ
obsidian wigeon
just outdated certificate
obsidian wigeon
On the note of 7200 memory, I've never heard of this brand. Has anyone else? htt...
i have heard here and there, they're fine
potent portal
Interesting. Are they newer to the memory space or did they have DDR4 kits too?
potent portal
Huh. I guess I've just never come across it before.
leaden mauve
hwbot people
cyan ravine
On the note of 7200 memory, I've never heard of this brand. Has anyone else? htt...
Yes
versed sleet
Hey guys! I’m building my first pc today. I need some help! So I got extra arctic p12 pwm pst a-rgb 0db 48.8 cfm 120 mm fans 3-pack” now I have total 8 fans. Each have their own cables, now they are so many cables and I my fan hub don’t have enough.
obsidian wigeon
You can daisy chain them
potent portal
The PST model can be chained, up to about 8 on a single header even since they're low power
obsidian wigeon
^
potent portal
The rgb though, that's a different story
obsidian wigeon
Get another hub kek
versed sleet
Get another hub kek
Any suggestions
zenith cargo
(*not at 1440p or higher in the majority of popular games)
What about 1080p
potent portal
1080p you don't need anything more than a 3060 because every cpu is going to bottleneck
A 3060 can easily handle 1080p max in the vast majority of games
obsidian wigeon
^
strong raft
5600 would however be better minimum framerates at least. G model has 1/2 cache thnx to igpu.
potent portal
Yeah it's functionally equivalent to the 3600
Which is still a strong, modern processor
(for 1440p lol)
rare plover
Yo this the memory?
potent portal
No that's probably the southbridge
Oh PCIe 2.0, it might be old enough that southbridge wasn't a thing yet
In which case it would be a chipset
strong raft
Afaik you're backwards there. South bridge is kinda old, lol. (Unless I'm mis remembering also)
rare plover
What do i connect SATA2 to
strong raft
potent portal
Afaik you're backwards there. South bridge is kinda old, lol. (Unless I'm mis re...
Yeah it got replaced by the PCH a while back (~2008) but I don't remember how long ago southbridge became a thing, and that board is probably from the early 2000s. it has sata at least.
strong raft
Yea South bridge was a thing for a long time & started a way before pcie2 for sure, lol. I had a P4B266. Forget what else I had before the P35-DS3L (P35 chipset obviously). Some nostalgia:
rare plover
Its an Old motherboard it doesn’t have that
strong raft
You mean not as old, lol. Show a full pic. Wonder which gen it is.
limber oyster
Question for y'all...if I use a humidifier in my room, but I have to place it on my desk by my PC, should I be worried about damage to my PC from the humidifier?
potent portal
Nope, don't need to worry any more than someone living in New England by the sea would worry. Or Texas in the summer, 90% humidity 😅
potent portal
PC components say what their rated humidity spec is in guides
I was in San Antonio for about a year so I'm sorry you have to deal with that
limber oyster
Yee
I'm pretty sure I'm sick because of how dry the air is, makes my throat dry...screws everything up
I go outside while it's raining rn and it's not AS bad
potent portal
I literally fried an egg on the blacktop
It was awesome
And then I went back inside to avoid dying
limber oyster
Lol truth
potent portal
Anyway afaik most humidifiers try to aim for 40-50% and PC parts are mostly rated for 90%, some are 80%
weary galleon
^ is the 40-50 what's coming directly out though?
Probably depends on the type but I've seen some humidifiers that practally expel mist
fossil cedar
Yeah I'd say if it was opposite the pc or something it would be fine
potent portal
Chat a bit, your name will turn green once you're level 3
upbeat lake
does the i5 10400f just not have a thermometer?
also how do i set my fan curve
the highest it goes is too loud and the lowest it goes is just a waste cos it does nothing
mossy venture
does the i5 10400f just not have a thermometer?
What
Fan curve can be set in bios as well
upbeat lake
What
i have an i5 10400f and it just doesnt tell me the temp anywhere
okay i know what the response to this is gonna be
how do i open bios
mossy venture
Did you download an app to check the cpu temp?
upbeat lake
Did you download an app to check the cpu temp?
oh
how come task manager tells gpu temp but not cpu?
mossy venture
Turn the computer off, turn it back on and while it's turning on spam delete, f11, f12
Those are the most common buttons anyways
If that doesn't work there's some other keys to try
mossy venture
how come task manager tells gpu temp but not cpu?
Even if it did, task manager isn't accurate
mossy venture
It's fine
Might not be cost efficient though
Well also depends on the cpu
With a 2000 series cpu likely not
But adl/rpl and am4, it should be fine
mossy venture
2x16 is cheaper than 4x8 almost all of the time
Also I'm pretty sure that psu is very good at catching fire
$10 more gets you the much better mp33
And I believe there's an mx331 variant for $53 with no shipping costs
rich mason
lovely
mmm I could just move some of the parts from my pc iam using rn until I can get the gpu from my cart
that significantly lowers the price before tax
I mean I do already have a gpu, 1060 6gb
and 12 gigs of ram stock with the pc, removing the ram from the cart helps as well
upper ore
So I was wondering how often cases go on sale? Because I don't really think I've seen cases go on sale much if at all.
potent portal
So I was wondering how often cases go on sale? Because I don't really think I've...
You're right, they're not on good sales very often any more. Most brands are facing increased material costs and they're forced to raise prices to make up for it.
Cases that were usually about $80-90 on sale are $110 now
fossil cedar
They're also pretty cheap compared to everything else in a pc so the savings aren't as much
upper ore
You're right, they're not on good sales very often any more. Most brands are fac...
Wow that sucks! I've been waiting for the case I want to go on sale but now I'm wondering if I should just buy it now.
fossil cedar
Probably should they rarely go on sale, last good sale was corsair 5000x for 125$
upper ore
The case I'm getting is the phanteks eclipse 500a white.
It's 162 on Amazon but it's 215 on newegg which is so odd that it's that big of a difference.
fossil cedar
Probably 3rd party seller
rich mason
glad I got the price down but I have no source of income and will not have one for ages
crap
summer terrace
glad I got the price down but I have no source of income and will not have one f...
That’s for your pc?
rich mason
A PC that I am looking to build eventually
I cannot save up the money for it to buy it
analog hearth
then get a job lol
pliant swallow
rich mason
then get a job lol
can't
analog hearth
why not?
rich mason
one, not eligible for any of them, two, everything's like hours away from where i am
analog hearth
why wouldn’t you be eligible?
rich mason
My age
rich mason
Well that's gonna be another case with my mom, epileptic here
plus, been slacking on my meds so yeah that's been a mess for me
anyway
fossil cedar
Is that a bad thing?
I meant on newegg, it's usually fine although they're usually the ones with wack pricing if you see it
jovial tangle
So you guys help with getting parts for a pc?
upper ore
Oh yeah they are really helpful.
jovial tangle
that sounds trollish
mossy venture
yes
jovial tangle
newegg said they don't help anymore
mossy venture
newegg support is useless
fossil cedar
We don't work for newegg
mossy venture
we'll help you
jovial tangle
Well, I have a kid that wants a new pc for Christmas
upper ore
But they are all pretty smart cookies lol
fossil cedar
Well you'll want to look closer to the time
mossy venture
Well, I have a kid that wants a new pc for Christmas
do you plan to build it yourself?
jovial tangle
The last time I tried to get my own stuff the people stopped me because I had mismatched items.
I have a guy
mossy venture
alright, are you planning on buying now or in a bit?
fossil cedar
Hmm?
jovial tangle
He charges but you get me
mossy venture
ye
jovial tangle
I think I should buy now. I could wait till black friday but I am not sure it will matter
mossy venture
alright, what's your budget and country?
fossil cedar
Oh right well probs best to look at both prebuilt and custom then
How much they charge?
mossy venture
I'd guess under $200
jovial tangle
$50
fossil cedar
That's fine ye
jovial tangle
I live in Texas
mossy venture
you know he's trustworthy?
fossil cedar
I'd guess under $200
200 would be yuck
jovial tangle
and that guy works out of his run down shed
fossil cedar
That doesn't inspire confidence
fossil cedar
I hope it's a renovated "shed" lol
jovial tangle
Omg if I showed y'all a picture
mossy venture
anyways, what's your budget?
jovial tangle
somewhere around 1k, they play LoL, overwatch, roblox
jovial tangle
just tower
mossy venture
and do they care about looks?
fossil cedar
That looks quite cheap ngl
jovial tangle
and some how I ordered an extra https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-masterair-g100m-mam-g1cn-924pc-r1/p/1B4-0011-00030?Item=9SIAGGGHNW7326
fossil cedar
Ahh reosewill makes sense
mossy venture
i would not use that heatsink
jovial tangle
lol
fossil cedar
Omg that cooler is worse than stock
upper ore
How much are 1070's now? That might be a good gpu.
fossil cedar
Return it if you can
jovial tangle
well that is what newegg told me to get
jovial tangle
right
fossil cedar
Also i hope you didn't pay 60$ for that
jovial tangle
maybe that is why the pc guy made me get another one from our local store
fossil cedar
Lol yeah
jovial tangle
I will try
fossil cedar
Do they want rgb and stuff?
jovial tangle
what is a rgb
fossil cedar
How much are 1070's now? That might be a good gpu.
Uhh check ebay and stuff
mossy venture
fossil cedar
what is a rgb
Like the pretty colours
jovial tangle
sure but he understands that it isn't important
Bacca I just use that tower I showed you
fossil cedar
Imma mod baccas list a bit
jovial tangle
So what do you guys really do
mossy venture
wdym
jovial tangle
just hang out on this discord helping people
fossil cedar
I'm 4th year student studying comp sci and electronic engineering
But just really like tech
jovial tangle
Nice, I wish I knew how to do the tech thing. I am in a masters program and I had to make a website. I thought I was going to pull my hair out trying to get a comment box to work.
So did you mod the list Pato?
Also what case do I put it in
mossy venture
i thought you had the case
jovial tangle
Is it that one I showed you
jovial tangle
got it
fossil cedar
Nice, I wish I knew how to do the tech thing. I am in a masters program and I ha...
To be fair websites are a pain lol I'd also hate it
Html is gross
upper ore
I learned how to build pc's from Linustechtips. Honestly anyone can learn to build one with alittle effort.
jovial tangle
physically build one
fossil cedar
Build as in put the parts together
jovial tangle
I did that back in 98...I am old, yes
had like 250 mb of storage
after all the programs were put on
upper ore
But that's different then what these guys can do and know
This was supposed to go qith my message before
upper ore
The worst thing in my opinion is the wiring now that sucks! Lol
jovial tangle
Nah the pins
that is the worse imo
It is why I won't make my own anymore. I don't want to mess that up.
upper ore
The problem with me is that I have really bad old and so if it's not perfect I go crazy lol
jovial tangle
I want to learn how to code, maybe never do hardware, but I started working on coding with code academy. I teach, so I would like to make interactive software for my kids that deals with Astronomy.
well guys, I am gonna bounce. Good luck in school and don't forget to look at usajobs.gov for some nice remote it jobs and after 10 years you can get your loans forgiven.
zenith cargo
Is a 3080 worth for 1080p 240hz Gaming
mossy venture
Is a 3080 worth for 1080p 240hz Gaming
5800x3d 3070
zenith cargo
What about with a r5 5600g 💀💀
mossy venture
no
earnest olive
5600g is a very poor choice for 1080p high refresh
mossy venture
esp when 5600 is normally same price or cheaper
broken lake
no drivers for gpu is why it looks like that
I had drivers on the drive also do I need to do something different for that?
oh nvm
it wiped the drive when I put the windows install media on it
lol
wheat coral
5600g is a very poor choice for 1080p high refresh
this, it’s ipc is garbage, it’s useless to buy them unless you specifically want the apu for light gaming i guess, id rather go intel though
wheat coral
I had drivers on the drive also do I need to do something different for that?
you just need internet and it’ll install what drivers you need to get everything properly goin
broken lake
Needed the Wi-Fi drivers lol
leaden mauve
this, it’s ipc is garbage, it’s useless to buy them unless you specifically want...
lol?
also,
wheat coral
https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588
💀
yeah its ipc is garbage
fixed
cyan ravine
It does have zen 2 type perf tho doesn't it?
wheat coral
it does indeed
stoic island
its because of halved l3 cache
cyan ravine
I wouldn't call that bad but it's not the same parity
wheat coral
stoic island
technically not ipc
wheat coral
still, its slower than a 5600/x
cyan ravine
technically not ipc
Isn't cache counted for ipc?
stoic island
shouldn't
cyan ravine
Intel did that with their 13th announcement iirc
leaden mauve
where's your point? the 5600g is literally faster
cyan ravine
Yeah I wouldn't call that bad, per se
stoic island
where even is the 13th gen announcement
stoic island
really haven't looked at it
wheat coral
its cache is halved, that really doesnt help in games or anything that uses the cpu 💀
its only upside is the fact that it has an igp that can kinda be used for gaming
cyan ravine
where even is the 13th gen announcement
Sorry, zen 4
Tho you are right L3 is like the x3d
That didn't give IPC
Not really sure where I land on that actually
stoic island
it's wack
wheat coral
indeed
stoic island
I guess l2 cache might allow for more instructions per clock
but l3 more as kind of storage
meh
wheat coral
essnetially the 5600G is kinda useless as of now, at least that its price is like 150-200$
cyan ravine
Well it's just different levels of cache, RAM could be considered L4/L5 if you think about it
stoic island
Yes, but it's sorted
cyan ravine
Mm
stoic island
Instructions considered for ipc should be more l1/l2
stoic island
dunno
leaden mauve
intel betar
cyan ravine
Sure if you got a guy
wheat coral
lo
cyan ravine
I still wouldn't call that bad
wheat coral
in comparison to the rest of the 5000 series lineup i do
leaden mauve
its nowhere near "garbage"
wheat coral
relatively it is imo
leaden mauve
if you wanna call something bad ipc relative to current gen, look at zen+ lol
wheat coral
its usable but its pointless for its price
cyan ravine
Sure, but not the worst
wheat coral
unless you specifically need a semi-powerful apu
leaden mauve
you're looking at hardware waaaay too black and white. this is why i dont like it when people just look at charts from youtubers and see that one is higher than the other.
strong raft
Cherrypicking a couple benchmarks that make 5600G look decent perhaps isn't the best, but sure it's overall not terrible.
frigid night
Monitor and Monitor arms came in.... Time to get to work!
I may have called in tonight... First time in 2 years.
analog pulsar
is this a sus ssd
potent portal
TLC flash and unknown controller. It probably barely fills the SATA bus.
zenith flicker
I need a ethernet cable that works on this motherboard
flint sapphire
Looks like the grounding is just in the way of the connector
potent portal
I need a ethernet cable that works on this motherboard
Your backplate is bent and the spacer metal is blocking the port
flint sapphire
Easiest and jankiest way to fix it is just take some pliers and go to town 
zenith flicker
Your backplate is bent and the spacer metal is blocking the port
What do I use the pliers on?
flint sapphire
Oh god alright you see the port you circled in red? The little square peice of metal hanging in front of it you can bend outward or just remove
flint sapphire
Be careful not to damage the port
potent portal
Or do it the right way and take out the motherboard
flint sapphire
Or that
potent portal
But that's asking a bit much lol
analog pulsar
TLC flash and unknown controller. It probably barely fills the SATA bus.
wym SATA bus
worn wave
The bandwidth of SATA
The word bus is used to refer to a connection or protocol in electronics.
analog pulsar
oh
little osprey
What is this bs IRQL not less or equal error and why is it happening. I literally had this happen before and shipped my ram back to Kingston for new sticks and it still happens so ik for a fact it isnt faulty ram
I just want to use my damn pc
I upgraded from 16 gigs to 32 gigs
Is this a power supply issue? Thats really the only thing i can think of since i have a 650W
obsidian wigeon
Try running with one stick or xmp off
little osprey
Isnt xmp required for windows 11 or is that something else
obsidian wigeon
xmp is just memory oc profile
disabling it runs the ram at mobo's base jedec spec
sometimes xmp can be unstable on some kits paired with certain mobo
potent portal
What speed is the memory rated for?
zenith cargo
is 700 watts enough for a 3080 for 1080p 240hz?
obsidian wigeon
depends on the psu
but honestly a 3080 isn't needed for 1080p
it'll cause cpu bottleneck
tall jacinth
/imagine
cyan ravine
imagine
zenith cargo
it'll cause cpu bottleneck
how about on warzone
obsidian wigeon
how about on warzone
if you wanna max out, then it won't be a problem
zenith cargo
alr bet
little osprey
can i ask about a pc list here? I don't really know what to buy i wanted to keep the budget under 1,600 AUD (I don't have a gpu picked rn and the monitor is one of the only ones that'll fit.)
cyan ravine
What monitor?
little osprey
i can send the list link
cyan ravine
Yea sure
frank stirrup
I'm still saving the money i just want to be prepared.
Come back when you have the money
Parts prices change too much to plan ahead
cyan ravine
He's right tbh, as a fellow aussie I can tell you right now prices are gonna fluctuate like crazy soon
New gpu's already changing the prices big time rn
little osprey
He's right tbh, as a fellow aussie I can tell you right now prices are gonna flu...
Alright
i'll keep the same monitor
cyan ravine
For that monitor you won't need a 1600 rig tho
That's like, *GTX 1660, RTX 3050 territory
At best
little osprey
ok
cyan ravine
If you're that limited btw a laptop is probably a better idea
1080p 60hz not really a premium experience lol
cyan ravine
Wait
Minimum or maximum???
if it's minimum I can definitely show you a better screen
little osprey
i think 23.5in is absolute maximum
mossy venture
May I ask why it can't be bigger?
little osprey
i don't know
mossy venture
Measure what?
cyan ravine
6600XT at most
mossy venture
The screen can be wider than the base it sirs on, if that's the issue
little osprey
Measure what?
the space
mossy venture
this would be a 1080p build for sure
6700xt is fine for 1080p
mossy venture
the space
Is it just rhe base that it'll sit on, or is it going in a cubby of sorts?
little osprey
Is it just rhe base that it'll sit on, or is it going in a cubby of sorts?
well, it's going in a box of an area (A set of shelves i guess)
mossy venture
Ah OK
That makes sense
Autocorrect making ok capitals annoys me
Is that the wrong form of capital
I cant tell
little osprey
What speed is the memory rated for?
Its 3600MHZ but it runs at 2400 or something it says on my BIOs
cyan ravine
yes one side is lower
here's a draft for later, you can bring this back when you've saved up enough:
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/dvjsW4
prices will be different later but this is about a ballpark of where you'll be
little osprey
here's a draft for later, you can bring this back when you've saved up enough:
h...
kinda wanted an intel, nvidia system but alright!
cyan ravine
oops had to change the ram
that was one stick not two
yea the 5600 is decent here rn cos the motherboard to go with it is very cheap
little osprey
kinda wanted an intel, nvidia system but alright!
Pick it yourself with research. What people give you isn’t always what you have to get
Trust me.
little osprey
Pick it yourself with research. What people give you isn’t always what you have...
yeah but im really inexperienced
cyan ravine
I gave him a researched list lol
cyan ravine
lol.
mossy venture
Pick it yourself with research. What people give you isn’t always what you have...
5800x paired with a 3060 is exactly why you should listen to other people lol
cyan ravine
also, can i have bigger storage then that?
Sorry I missed this, you can:
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7LcVH2
mossy venture
Are there not any cheaper decent psus?
cyan ravine
I went through all the way to 750w and this seems like the best bang for the buck tbh
mossy venture
Just checked, not really
cyan ravine
yeah
mossy venture
Only other option would be $85 mwe bronze v2 550
cyan ravine
ye or the 650W one for 95
mossy venture
Which $15 extra for the 200w for future upgrades is worth it
cyan ravine
it's not the greatest time for psu's here ig
cyan ravine
I haven't been looking cos I have plenty of power at my disposal
and the ai1300p is 600AUD
like WTH
that's like Thor II money
costs more than my 1650W did
little osprey
Sorry I missed this, you can:
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7LcVH2
ok
600 aud damn
cyan ravine
that'll be the peak of what you could do really
you could minmax the cpu and gpu and get a slightly better gpu but at this resolution this is pretty much as high as I would go tbh
maybe a 3060 instead if you really wanted to, not better in games but you can do other stuff more capably with it
little osprey
5800x paired with a 3060 is exactly why you should listen to other people lol
I got it myself. Its what I could afford sorry im not rich. I worked my as$ off all summer so I could by this stuff. Let me be happy please
Im asking for help with my RAM not to have my setup judged
mossy venture
I got it myself. Its what I could afford sorry im not rich. I worked my as$ of...
That's not what I was pointing out my dude
Cheaper cpu and better gpu is a much better pairing, don't tell people we don't know what we're talking about when you yourself don't
And at that time you weren't even asking for help
You said we don't know what we're talking about
Idc what you can afford, for all I care you could have a 10100f and 1030 and I wouldn't say anything
mossy venture
Its 3600MHZ but it runs at 2400 or something it says on my BIOs
Have you enabled xmp
little osprey
You said we don't know what we're talking about
Never said that. I just told him that it isn’t what he had to get. Obviously he had problems with it so with research he could get what he wanted. Thats what i did with what people suggested. Used it as a template
little osprey
Have you enabled xmp
Someone else said that as well I will try it when I get home
I apologize for being a little snappy. I shouldn’t have said it like that.
hallow glen
this decent?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PLk7d9 updated with cooler
oh wait cpu cooler
mossy venture
Do you need the case matx?
If not I'd get an mx33_ variant for pretty much the same price
hallow glen
Do you need the case matx?
it would be nice
mossy venture
It's fine then
Could go 5600 and pro vdh wifi to save some money
Aside from that looks good
hallow glen
Could go 5600 and pro vdh wifi to save some money
doesn't matter right? The MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor with BIOS version 7C95v2A. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.
hallow glen
right thanks
fossil cedar
this decent?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PLk7d9 updated with cooler
Would do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VwhTDq
hallow glen
Would do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VwhTDq
Matx is preferable
hallow glen
Would do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VwhTDq
is this good with a matx case? and is this case good? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MjZHQ6
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pgPQzy/silverstone-fara-h1m-microatx-mini-tower-case-sst-fah1mb-g this is ok I believe
hallow glen
ok
gilded furnace
I had a question about my PC build I was hoping someone could help me out
I got everything all hooked up and good to go when I turn the PC on my GPU turns on but my HDMI isn’t getting a signal it tries for just a moment and it lost the signal
So I’m a little lost on what could be wrong with it
hallow glen
did you plug the hdm cable into the right place?
gilded furnace
Yes
Also when I took out the RAM and tried starting it that way my PC didn’t even beep so I’m really lost. Could i have wired up something wrong? Or am I missing a step
hallow glen
in the gpu right?
hallow glen
Also when I took out the RAM and tried starting it that way my PC didn’t even be...
well its not gonna start without ram.
gilded furnace
Well here’s the thing like
My fans wouldn’t spin but my GPU turned on
It’s like the only thing that would boot up was my gpu
My buddy thinks it could be the CPU needs to be updated
hallow glen
the motherboard might not have the right bios
gilded furnace
What are the bios? Sorry this is my first time building a PC my friend is the one that helped me throw it together but he is also confused
hallow glen
Can you send a parts list?
gilded furnace
Yes give me a moment
Eclipse G360A, Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB, Intel Core i5-12600KF Desktop Processor 10, ASUS Prime B660-PLUS D4 LGA 1700, TEAMGROUP MP34 1TB, PowerColor Red Devil AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT, Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 750W
fossil cedar
is this good with a matx case? and is this case good? https://pcpartpicker.com/l...
Ehh there's not really any good matx cases they're all just like ehh that's an okay cheapish case i guess kinda case, also I don't see the point since it's literally like 5-10?cm less tall and the rest of the dimensions are basically the same imo just go atx and itx
fossil cedar
Eclipse G360A, Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB, Intel Core i5-12600KF...
They should all be fine, I'd check that your cables and parts are all in correctly
gilded furnace
Alright
It’s just bugging me out cause the GPU turns on and I can see the HDMI trying to put out a signal and it fails
fossil cedar
It’s just bugging me out cause the GPU turns on and I can see the HDMI trying to...
You tried a different hmdi port on the gpu/cable?
hallow glen
Ehh there's not really any good matx cases they're all just like ehh that's an o...
hm ok thx
gilded furnace
You tried a different hmdi port on the gpu/cable?
Let me ask my buddy
He said we tried multiple
“pc turns on, dram led shows on motherboard. gpu turns on also but the monitor doesn’t detect anything. it’s a asus prime b660 d4 and a 6700xt red devil. the ram is a kit of 3000mhz 16gb (2x8gb) teamgroup”
wide sparrow
gilded furnace
Hmm okay we haven’t tried that yet
My buddy asked if it would need a new one if we removed it
fossil cedar
No you can put the same battery back in
gilded furnace
Ohhh okay
Thank you guys for the help
We were working on this for like 5 hours yesterday and we finally got it all together now there is a new problem
How would you remove the cmos?
mossy venture
Oh mine didn't have one
stoic island
wat
mossy venture
Idk, either assrock or previous owner broke it somehow
gilded furnace
You guys are awesome thank you
stoic island
Idk, either assrock or previous owner broke it somehow
what board was it?
fossil cedar
B450 itx iirc
stoic island
I don't even know where the battery is on the board lmao
sturdy kiln
Hello everyone, I'm in the market on building my first gaming PC. My main question is does a mini case matter or should I go for a Mid tower case?
fossil cedar
Hello everyone, I'm in the market on building my first gaming PC. My main questi...
By mini if you mean mini itx, well itx is harder to work with compared to atx (mid tower), atx also best value for money and gets better temps
sturdy kiln
By mini if you mean mini itx, well itx is harder to work with compared to atx (m...
Yes, Oh so the itx would be more ideal in regards to temps. Gotcha. I appreciate it
earnest olive
Yes, Oh so the itx would be more ideal in regards to temps. Gotcha. I appreciate...
other way around
vague oracle
12900k and 3050 make me sad 
junior crescent
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/yysvY9 Would this be good for Game development (Unity, Unreal) and Gaming 1440p (Squad, Arma 3, MSFS 20)
mossy venture
Pretty sure game dev is more cpu focused, but no time to make a list rn
analog pulsar
12900k and 3050 make me sad <:ssadge:827702421279080468>
Well on 1 hand you can still game but say you need a lot of cores for projects
potent portal
Unity and Unreal like video power, especially memory when you start getting bigger
zenith cargo
im about to buy a a new gpu (3080) but I noticed the cable only has a 2 connectors, 8+8 and the 3080 has 8+8+8
idk how to word it but yeah
strong raft
cyan ravine
im about to buy a a new gpu (3080) but I noticed the cable only has a 2 connecto...
Need another 8 cable my guy, might mean you need a bigger psu
zenith cargo
Need another 8 cable my guy, might mean you need a bigger psu
I have a 700 watt psu
Still not enough?
cyan ravine
What's your cpu and what's the psu model?
zenith cargo
ryzen 5 5600g 💀
marsh kiln
My astro computer I just bought has a 20 pin psu cable and not a 24 should I be worried a bit?
Mainly do I need the extra 4 pins?
cyan ravine
ryzen 5 5600g 💀
Psu model?
zenith cargo
how do I check
mossy venture
It says it on the side
strong raft
If it doesn't have at least 2 cables or 3+ "total" connectors, I wouldn't consider it adequate. Look again at the pic I posted.
cyan ravine
I think that's a Tier C, I might be misinterpreting
strong raft
Medusa, is that you?
mossy venture
Thermaltake 700w 80 plus gold smart series
Please get rid of that
Danger to your system, especially with a 3080
mossy venture
Thermaltake smart = bad
Gf1 850 is $105 rn, might be some cheaper decent psus right now not sure
zenith cargo
so then no 3080 unless I buy a new psu
cyan ravine
What's your budget
zenith cargo
$600
strong raft
If 1440p or below, perhaps just do 3070(ti) then $100ish for psu. Bam, done.
cyan ravine
What gpu rn?
cyan ravine
1080p low or high
zenith cargo
low
mossy venture
5600g would be your limiting factor with anything higher than a 3060 ti for 1080p
Especially at low settings 240hz
cyan ravine
Hmmm
zenith cargo
I was also gonna upgrade my cpu in a few months
cyan ravine
Can you give us a screenshot with rivatuner running
zenith cargo
R7 5800x
cyan ravine
Do 5700X if you want 5800X
zenith cargo
I dont have a gpu rn cuz its in repair
zenith cargo
yea
zenith cargo
fan stopped spinning 😔
zenith cargo
cyan ravine
Think if you really wanted to do this, a radeon might do better for you
Radeon does a lot better at 1080p vs. nvidia at 4k
zenith cargo
the 6800xt?
cyan ravine
Non xt I think at most
The problem is tho
Like Bacca said
You have to deal with cpu bottlenecks at 1080
And it's very easy to do that
Lemme pitch a quick breakdown
The GPU throws frames up to your screen yeah?
mossy venture
Its be a 50/50 on psu with a 6800/xt
zenith cargo
how do I retract a bid on ebay its about to end 
mossy venture
If you're fine with a mail in rebate https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08M9M6DB9?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
cyan ravine
A gpu bottleneck is where the gpu can't keep up with the cpu's abilities and runs at full tilt
But a cpu bottleneck is the reverse
Where in some way a cpu will be running as best it can but can't keep up
Note this ≠ full usage always
zenith cargo
ik I was reading about cpu and gpu bottleneck
cyan ravine
It is usually due to the way the game runs that depends with the core usage
zenith cargo
😂
zenith cargo
ight then
cyan ravine
So my roundabout point is
You will throw all this down on a gpu, but will you be cpu bottlenecked before you hit 240fps? Quite possible
mossy venture
1080p 240hz I'd recc 5800x3d if you're playing competitively
mossy venture
If casually, wouldn't even bother trying for 240fps
zenith cargo
but the price difference is huge from a reg 5800x
cyan ravine
You get actual fps gains like a gpu upgrade with it
mossy venture
but the price difference is huge from a reg 5800x
And very worth it, especially if you find one cheap used
It's the best gaming cpu currently
cyan ravine
but the price difference is huge from a reg 5800x
Ya cos it's really good
mossy venture
13600k might dethrone it, but you'd need a new mobo
cyan ravine
Might need a new mobo now tbh
cyan ravine
5800X/X3D are powerful chips, depends on your mobo if it could handle that extra power
Also note on regular AM4 you do experience lower 0.1% and 1% lows
zenith cargo
I have a Asus Prime B550-A AC
cyan ravine
It might run too hot with an X3D
So yeah I'd stay with 5700X unless you change mobo tbh
You could maybe pick better RAM then tune it hard
And then like still, a 6800 at most
Like a 3080 would work but in all likeliness Warzone would probably be one of a handful of cases where you could possibly use it fully at 1080p
RDNA 2 likes 1080p more
zenith cargo
yeah thats pretty much all I play, cod
cyan ravine
It's really hard to recommend higher lol
Cos we don't know when you hit the cpu bottleneck until you try it lol
zenith cargo
So then for a 3080 just get a new psu with higher W
cyan ravine
Yeah but then there's a really good chance your current cpu will hold it back
Think of it this way - the cpu could kneecap it to perform much less than a 3080
5600G isn't the strongest
zenith cargo
mhm
cyan ravine
Very similar fps from this game as to warzone
So you would be basically using a 3080 but it's very likely kneecapped to perform like a 3070
zenith cargo
Yeah I see your point
cyan ravine
But looking into benchmarks now you could probably go higher than a 3070/6800 if you had an X3D, hell 5700X might do it if you tune it properly
cyan ravine
I really think X3D would make sense tbh
It can run in your board but very hot
You'd want a fan over the vrm
Would need a new cooler too
Or maybe a heatsink over the rest of the vrm
Have a read of this
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asus-prime-b550m-a-wi-fi
cyan ravine
You should learn a bit about your mobo
cyan ravine
Should I get a 3070 ti then
I think a 6800 would run faster for you
3070's can also be overclocked to run like 3070 Ti's so yeah I wouldn't
zenith cargo
oo
cyan ravine
Ok ima put a rough estimate on this
If you did 5700X, new psu and 6800
I reckon you'd be looking at maybe 180-ish fps
X3D, new board, psu, 6800XT or better, 200 fps definitely
Haha the 6800XT is 80% util max on 5800X
Le oof, would be the same with 3080
Yeah you definitely need X3D to get higher fps with a card like that
Thankfully there's plenty of benchmarks to refer to lol
zenith cargo
alr thx man
mossy venture
3070's can also be overclocked to run like 3070 Ti's so yeah I wouldn't
Far better*
3070 ti is 2% better than 3070
And is hotter and uses much more power
zenith cargo
Would I still need a new psu for a 6800xt
zenith cargo
I think this vid just convinced me to buy a 6800xt
plus its cheaper than a 3080 and uses less power
cyan ravine
plus its cheaper than a 3080 and uses less power
You will still want a new psu btw
zenith cargo
I just don't want to go through the hassle of cable managing and putting everything together
potent portal
Power supplies are the one component you really shouldn't cheap out on. If it's insufficient it'll just shut down when gaming, and some are downright fire hazards when they're pushed hard.
obsidian wigeon
^
drowsy zodiac
can someone send a pc parts picker list 600$(CAD) mobo,gpu,storage,cpu(intel)
analog hearth
just build one
potent portal
can someone send a pc parts picker list 600$(CAD) mobo,gpu,storage,cpu(intel)
Are you okay with used parts? Because that's your best option
potent portal
And is that 600 cad only for those parts or a full build?
potent portal
can someone send a pc parts picker list 600$(CAD) mobo,gpu,storage,cpu(intel)
If that's a full build https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Cs7ghk
Click the gpu for the ebay link
drowsy zodiac
And is that 600 cad only for those parts or a full build?
600 for the parts not a full build
i’m willing to go 800 just prefer the lower
that’s all i need left for the build really
guess i should mention i’m looking at getting the i5 12400f
cyan ravine
potent portal
Getting a stronger GPU instead of a stronger cpu is usually best practice
cyan ravine
Not a board I'd normally suggest but this is a tight budget lol
potent portal
Ew assrock
potent portal
Yeah it's fine with a low end part but anything higher than a 12400 it'll struggle
cyan ravine
Even a 12400 might be a bit sketch
potent portal
Yep
cyan ravine
Definitely no upgrade path with this but a 6600 is worth getting
In the meantime come join me in this masterpiece
https://youtu.be/OWJMNYpRikE
potent portal
Could toss in this drive for extra storage, most games don't need nvme speed. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/gHNxFT/western-digital-wd-blue-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd20ezbx
potent portal
Storage is nice though since you can add more at any time in the future
512GB is probably enough for the OS and several games on its own and when you fill that up you can add more later
zenith cargo
Will the 5800x3d be really hot on my mobo?
cyan ravine
Yes
potent portal
You could leave out the last 3 words and it's still a yes
cyan ravine
Yeah it's a hot boi in general
potent portal
You can put a 420mm LFII on it and it'll still hit 90C in heavy tasks
cyan ravine
But if you have a fan over the vrm it probably would work on the board
potent portal
You can put a 420mm LFII on it and it'll still hit 90C in heavy tasks
Hell the regular 5800X does that
cyan ravine
It's not grossly high temp but it is very high the vrm*
potent portal
What model board was it? I'll find it on the VRM tier list
cyan ravine
But it can realistically give you some 20% of the fps you wanted with the 3080/6800XT that can't deliver cos of the bottleneck
zenith cargo
Prime B550m-A AC
cyan ravine
It's probably similar to the 450 version Fal
potent portal
Tier E board
Can run the CPU at stock (no overclocking, I recommend undervolting too) as long as there's good airflow
cyan ravine
Ye, 5800X3D with airflow over the vrm will probably work
LFII 360 is the most budget choice for that
Since it has a vrm fan
potent portal
Yes, and you can get that on b-stock for cheap
zenith cargo
boi I barely have enough for a gpu 😂
cyan ravine
Honestly 5800X3D will be a big chunk of fps
Maybe not with a 3060 but if you want this 240hz experience
potent portal
I have the seller saved for fast finding lol https://www.ebay.com/itm/354077186811
They've been this cheap for a while so no rush on the sale
zenith cargo
👍