building-and-recc-chat

[unkempt roost]

Hey, I'm looking for a work/schooling. Laptop and a budget of around 600$ or less, I'm more of into gaming PCs but can't bring one with me on the go 🤣 and I'm not sure if there are differences between a gaming laptop and a work/schooling laptop, and recommended laptops for work/schooling for my budget? Thank you

[wide sparrow]

600

e

[thorny flint]

oh ok

[cyan ravine]

looking a lot better than a 12400F finally
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nWZbGL

(Just a draft list, not suggesting for anyone rn)

[earnest olive]

AC/AX are (abbreviated) names of wifi standards, gigabyte didn't make them up

[cyan ravine]

802.11ac/802.11ax

[earnest olive]

IEEE 802.11ac = WiFi 5

IEEE 802.11ax = WiFi 6

[stoic island]

everyone does the same thing

my MSI board is b450 pro carbon ac

but yea it's just the protocol

especially useful now to differentiate between ac and ax

[analog pulsar]

@potent portal are chipset drivers suppose to mess with applications lol discord died after i installed it

[stoic island]

restart after driver installs

[analog pulsar]

I think I installed the INF or something

Screens went black then came back bur discord died

[potent portal]

If you only installed the inf and not the actual driver files yes that can break things

But yes you should restart the computer after installing

[analog pulsar]

i installed all 4 from website

[potent portal]

Discord has a tendency to blank out like that when video drivers crash/reset

Browsers too
Restart fixes it

[analog pulsar]

ye

🤔

what

[potent portal]

That means one of two things. They bought carbon credits from farms to "offset" their emissions or they're switching to lower power servers.

[analog pulsar]

intel doesnt wanna update

[potent portal]

That error indicates that driver is installed already

[analog pulsar]

oh

how do i make it go away

[potent portal]

Tell it to check for updates again

Otherwise just ignore it

[analog pulsar]

okay

[steady canyon]

hello chat. im trying to figure out how i can find out what brand coolant to refill my aio cooler with cause it doesnt tell me if i should use a specific brand

[frigid night]

In most cases all you really need is distilled water and a little bit of biocide to keep bacteria from building up. Maybe a little ethylene or propylene glycol to keep things lubricated.

[steady canyon]

oh snap. is there like a cheap brand i can order?

[frigid night]

What aio do you have?

[fossil cedar]

You shouldn't need to refill it

[frigid night]

Unless they had one of those defective arctic aio and accidentally spilled more than they provided in their little bottle.

[rich void]

AIOs are generally not designed to be refilled

[late fjord]

My artic 360mm aio acting up again 🙄 bout to just chuck it tbh

[fossil cedar]

Did you check if you got a faulty one? Also 90c at 40w looks like bad mount/plastic still on/not enough paste/ aio pump at a very low level instead of 100%

[late fjord]

I've already been done all that 4 times now. It worked phenomenal for about 5-6 months then started doing this

Reset the bios last week and it was back to normal until this morning

But yeah I'm just gonna use my backup pc for now and when I have some time gonna check my model number and see if I have a faulty one

[cyan ravine]

Oh nvm I wasn't reading

Lmao

[inland steppe]

At least I know I won’t be getting 4090’s from Newegg

[solemn jacinth]

you guys think the 4090 can fit in a hyte y60 without an issues 💀

[mossy venture]

Not in a million years

[cyan ravine]

Good luck

If you waterblocked it yeah, otherwise no, especially not aorus

[solemn jacinth]

lol

[woven rain]

please ping me if you have an answer as I have the server muted
Hey I’m in my first ever build and I got everything thrown together, but have noticed a few issues. One is the power button doesn’t actually turn off the machine, two I don’t think my usb ports on the case are working (even though I have them plugged into the proper spot on the motherboard), and three, when I powered it up I got a no signal call on my monitor even though the graphics card is plugged in right. Anyone able to help me understand what I did wrong?

[paper summit]

Is the 5900x wort the extra 100 over the 5800x

Ik it depends

But 12 core go brrr

[solemn jacinth]

@paper summit depends are you gaming or using it for work if your gaming your not gana use those 12 cores hell your not gana use up 8

[paper summit]

Well yes gaming and photoshop i also wanna try blender

[solemn jacinth]

then 12 it is lol

[paper summit]

Okie

Thx

Photoshop isnt that intensive is it

[solemn jacinth]

cant remember if it use cpu encoding or gpu

[paper summit]

I suppose that depends to

Lol

[paper summit]

Idk either way it will pair nicely with 3080

[obsidian wigeon]

photoshop isn't video work

you don't need a 5900x

[analog pulsar]

What if you rendering a video hmmmmmm

[jagged ember]

You still likely won't see much benefit from a 5900x

Just for Photoshop, normal video work and normal blender

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[viral ore]

mostly cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

blender heavily uses gpu more than cpu

[viral ore]

a few select things use gpu

generally i dont think photoshop is that intensive on the cpu either

[obsidian wigeon]

but photoshop uses cpu, probably not enough to see 5900x being worth $100 extra tbh

[viral ore]

idk how it scales with core count tho

[obsidian wigeon]

I wouldn't be surprised if it uses only one core lol

[viral ore]

yeah lol

[paper summit]

But but but 12core go brrrrrrr

[obsidian wigeon]

na

[viral ore]

5800x3d still king gaming chip

[obsidian wigeon]

for the same money i would get 5800x3d ya

[paper summit]

True another 100 more tho

5900x is on sale for 340

[viral ore]

ahh

still doesnt make it worth it

[paper summit]

Hmmmm ok

Thanks

[viral ore]

as a casual photoshop and blender user, you def dont need that many cpu cores

[weary galleon]

with multiple layers, high res images, and certain tools, it can be

[paper summit]

just cool to say i got 12 cores but still not worth lol

[weary galleon]

Though mostly you just need a lot of ram

[obsidian wigeon]

5800x is plenty for anything you throw at it

[viral ore]

new cpus are like right around the corner too

7000 series out

[paper summit]

No

[viral ore]

13th gen coming up shortly

[obsidian wigeon]

7000 series sadly has expensive mobos

[paper summit]

Im sticking with my mobo

[viral ore]

13600k prolly gonna be a killer chip

oh you already got mobo

i see

[paper summit]

Yepp

[viral ore]

so what are you upgrading from?

3600?

[paper summit]

No i was getting a 5800x but decided to wait

Its new build

[viral ore]

oh

so you just have a new motherboard

[paper summit]

Well everything but cpu pretty much

[viral ore]

the best thing you can put in that board would be a 5800x3d

[paper summit]

Was gonna be budget with 5600g until i got my gpu but decided no im going overkill

[viral ore]

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-ryzen-7-5000-series/p/N82E16819113734

this on sale too

for sure worth it for 60 more over the 5900x

[obsidian wigeon]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-b650-motherboards-are-now-available-pricing-starts-at-159 gigabyte ds3h is 159, yikes

not even wifi included

[dim forge]

Overpricedddddd

[stoic island]

I hate how b650m-a is 200$ when b660m-a is ~100$

[analog hearth]

then get the 660

[stoic island]

B660 is lga1700, b650 is am5

[analog hearth]

ah

AM5 L

[fossil cedar]

It sucks

[leaden mauve]

Bigger number better

[earnest olive]

1700 is 340 times as large as 5

therefore, lga1700 is 340 times as performant as am5

[leaden mauve]

lga2011 is better than both platforms

[flat lily]

lga3647 tho

[worn wave]

LGA 4189

[leaden mauve]

Lga2011 BETTER

[stoic island]

but bigger number better

[strong raft]

Not in weight.

[limber oyster]

I made the upgrade to windows 11

[analog hearth]

congratulations

[analog pulsar]

[analog pulsar]

Well then you know that answer INTEL IS BETTER

[thorny flint]

Is the wifi for the gigabyte b550m d3sh ac good in terms of wifi? Or should I get a Ethernet power line adapter

[toxic wraith]

On Amazon a 5600x costs 165 should I get that over a 12400f?

[potent portal]

That does make the total platform cost $25 cheaper for AMD but that's also essentially a dead end platform. Intel has the option to upgrade to a 13700 or something. Your choice. Performance is similar between them.

[fossil cedar]

Should be fine

Also 5600 non x for 130$ is a way better choice, assuming you're a normal consumer and probably won't upgrade for many years you'll need to buy a new motherboard and ram anyway so I'd get the 5600

[feral bobcat]

guyz

are you there

[mossy venture]

What's up

[feral bobcat]

good

thanks

guyz

what do you prefer

ibuypower or origin pc

[mossy venture]

Neither

Theyre both absolutely terrible

I would get ABS on newegg, or if it's noticeably cheaper cyberpowerpc

[late fjord]

Isn't ibuypower the ones who were using superglue

[mossy venture]

Not sure if they still do, but they definitely have

Origin is just super overpriced and terrible build quality

Ibuypower is terrible build quality but can have ok prices

[late fjord]

I've upgraded two friends cyberpowers who had the cpu cooler hot glued to the motherboard

[feral bobcat]

thanks

maingear?

[mossy venture]

I stand by the two companies I suggested above

Theyre the only ones that are consistently decent

[mossy venture]

Sure it wasn't ibuypower?

I know they use super glue

Never heard of cyberpower doing it

[feral bobcat]

https://www.newegg.com/ABS/BrandStore/ID-8484

?

[mossy venture]

Yes

[feral bobcat]

if i get it right correctly cyberpower is ok?

[late fjord]

the cooler mount had the screws but hot glue around the edges

[mossy venture]

Cyberpower is fine

Not as good as abs, but sometimes they have good sales

[late fjord]

These were older builds though. Ryzen 1000 series

[mossy venture]

The other day they had a 12600kf 3080 build for 1300 something

[late fjord]

Actually sorry yeah it was ibuypower my bad

[mossy venture]

Ah ye that makes more sense

Ibuypower is one of the bottom of the barrel companies

Skytech still worse though

[late fjord]

I get them mixed up

[mossy venture]

Yeah I used to a ton

Too similar names lol

Like aresgame and gamesmax

[late fjord]

Lol

[feral bobcat]

thanks guys

and what about hp and dell pre-B

[gritty glade]

hp is ok, dell is worse; i would't go for dell. With all pre-builts, you might have to add a better cpu cooler or a fan

[late fjord]

@mossy venture I finally replaced my GT 1030 in that one build

10105f/ 6600xt 😅

My backup pc until I get my aio thing figured out

[velvet yoke]

There's no arguing with that. I just replaced my parents Dell desktop with a custom built because that computer had a laptop CPU cooler that couldn't keep up with the normal demands. 🤣

[mossy venture]

Nice

How much was the 6500?

[late fjord]

It was my brother's he paid $550 for it in January 💀

[mossy venture]

WHAT

Even on launch day that gpu wasnt worth $200

[late fjord]

The 6600xt?

[mossy venture]

I read that as 6500xt

[late fjord]

Oh lol all good

[young fox]

what would be a good cpu for gaming and work that would be under 150 dollars?

[obsidian wigeon]

something like 10400f or 11400f

otherwise 12100f

under 150 doesn't get you much

[mossy venture]

5600 is $130

[mossy venture]

@young fox

[young fox]

thanks

iirc 5600g is 151 so yea

[wooden halo]

Any one ever do a psu swap on a dell optiplex 3020? Looking for suggestions mainly haveing mount compatibility worries

[fossil cedar]

5600 non g non x is 130 atm and better

[paper summit]

Yep just no igpu

[potent portal]

Looks like a modified 12VO design power supply. You can only use officially compatible units because of that design. Dell likes to pull proprietary stunts like that.

[wooden halo]

@potent portal my first build was in this case but moved it to a temeped glass case but for some reasons the on the aftermarket PSU that was added that moved over to the new case doesnt have stickers or stamping otherwise id just buy the same PSU

But work gave me a 3010 and the 3020 had a better cpu so i moved HDD and psu hopeing to add a gpu but no pcie connectors with dells 290w

[potent portal]

You can Frankenstein a build so it works. If you jump the right pins you can run a second power supply for the GPU.

[rigid oracle]

my friend has a gaming rig and i’m wondering, is a gtx 1660 super and gtx 1070 too much for a 450W PSU? and if not, would he need to upgrade the PSU if I gave him my RTX 3060 to replace the 1070?

he has 2 GPUs lol

[mossy venture]

Itd be fine

Oh 2 gpus

What's he do with the pc?

For just gaming, no point for two gpus

[rigid oracle]

rendering

so RTX 3060 + GTX 1660 Super is fine for the PSU? alr

[mossy venture]

Uhh

Not sure

Itd be cutting it close imo

[rigid oracle]

oh lol

my pc has an rtx 3060 with a 650W PSU

[mossy venture]

I've ran a 3060 ti on a 500w

[rigid oracle]

what’s a good PSU wattage for the 3060 combo thing

[mossy venture]

What model is the psu?

[rigid oracle]

i have no idea

he has an alienware pc

Aurora R7 he told me

[mossy venture]

Ah

[rigid oracle]

i don’t even know for sure it’s 450W, i haven’t seen it so i don’t know. That’s just what google says though

[mossy venture]

Dell makes decent psus

I'd double check the wattage then

[rigid oracle]

yeah

i’m not selling him my GPU until i get a 4060 so that might be a while lol

no integrated graphics lol

450W would be enough to run both cards though?

assuming that’s the wattage of his psu

[mossy venture]

I doubt it tbh

I mean 1660s takes what, 150w?

3060 180?

[rigid oracle]

yeah

there about

[mossy venture]

Well actually

It might make it

[rigid oracle]

maybe

[mossy venture]

I'd wait for someone else's input

Maybe sips or patos

[rigid oracle]

he might be better off with a 650W PSU though

[mossy venture]

Or fal, theyre active rn

[potent portal]

One sec while I catch up

[stoic island]

I'd just upgrade mobo and psu lol

I don't trust dell

[rigid oracle]

he wants the 4090 which obviously won’t support the 450W PSU

[mossy venture]

Mobo would require new case

[rigid oracle]

oem bloatware in the bios?

[stoic island]

it's the proprietary hardware I hate more

[rigid oracle]

ah

[stoic island]

forgot their cases aren't standard either

case, mobo, psu

[rigid oracle]

oof

i was wondering how easy it would be to upgrade an alienware computer

doesnt look like it’ll be easy without replacing pretty much the whole thing

[mossy venture]

Ye, they suck for upgradability

[potent portal]

1. 450W is probably too small for dual GPU, even if it miraculously has enough PCIe power connectors
2. Dell makes upgraded PSU models that are larger capacity, and it's one of the things they make that don't totally suck

[mossy venture]

At that point you'd pretty much keep cpu, maybe ram, ssd, and gpu

[rigid oracle]

he’s already running 2 GPUs

[potent portal]

Right but upgrading to the 3060 is where that becomes problematic

[rigid oracle]

yeah

hmm

can the 3060 even fit in there?

[potent portal]

A dual fan model might

[rigid oracle]

since the case is different

i’ve got one with 2 fans anyways lol

which i’m gonna sell to him when i get a 4060 or smthn

evga is the brand

[potent portal]

The XC I'm guessing then

[rigid oracle]

think so

yeah that one

[potent portal]

That model is 202mm long measured from the slot cover

[rigid oracle]

might actually require less power but i’m not sure

how much space is in the case?

[potent portal]

It should fit

[rigid oracle]

nice

[potent portal]

Looks like the highest capacity PSU they make that's compatible is 850W

You could go for that for "future proofing" or a smaller one

[rigid oracle]

850 is fine for the 3060 and 1660 super i think

my 3060 alone runs on a 650W PSU

[potent portal]

850 would be enough for a 3090 lol

[rigid oracle]

lol

650W could prolly support both cards too

[potent portal]

Definitely

[rigid oracle]

honestly if i were him id just sell it and either build it by hand or buy a good prebuilt

sounds like such a pain to work around this proprietary hardware

[potent portal]

That would make it easier to upgrade later down the line too

It comes down to what's more important to him, the cheapest solution that'll work or ease of use

[rigid oracle]

he could probably sell his alienware for the price it costs to build the same pc (with off the shelf components) i’m pretty sure

it’s funny how alienware makes the worst computers and markers them as “elite” and “superior”

and also raises the price a bunch

[potent portal]

The R7 is going for $500 on ebay used

[rigid oracle]

oh

like $100-$200 more to build the pc i think

which isn’t much tbh

$3,000 msrp for the aurora r7????

no way

what a scam

[potent portal]

Yep, that's Alienware for you

[rigid oracle]

i knew they were overpriced but i didn’t think they priced it that high

[potent portal]

They give you horrible parts and inadequate cooling and call it premium

[rigid oracle]

yes

that pc is worth like

$800

at most

from its specs

[potent portal]

Oh but you also get the light up alien logo, that adds 2k to the value

[rigid oracle]

made with premium metals

i can’t believe they do that, it’s so scummy

[potent portal]

It's been like that forever, since before Dell bought them and they were actually good

[rigid oracle]

and people who are just trying to get into the gaming market can see it and go, “expensive but good for gamin” without actually knowing the value

[rigid oracle]

typical

the big companies always ruining good things

i hope he didn’t buy it for $3,000 though

he said he got it a while ago so it’s possible

[potent portal]

Yeah that would be a slap in the face, 83% depreciation in 4 years lol

4 years being based off it having an 8th gen processor and we're just getting into 13th

[rigid oracle]

he paid 3,000 for it

i looked up the MSRP of each part and it would’ve been worth around $1,300

idk it’s a rough estimate

[potent portal]

Sounds about right for mid-high end brand new

[rigid oracle]

the most expensive part would literally be the case then

made of solid gold lol

i still can’t believe that though, that’s worse than apple lol

[upper ore]

Guys so im looking to get a Strix 3080 OC and im looking for a good cpu to pair with it so that i dont get a bad bottle neck. So far im looking between the Ryzen 9 5900x and the Ryzen 5950x. Which one would be better?

[potent portal]

You wouldn't get a bottleneck even using a 3000 series cpu lol

A 5600X is more than powerful enough

5950X is actually worse for gaming than the 5900X in a lot of cases

Personally I use a 5800X and it's been perfect

But if you REALLY want the best you want the 5800X3D

[upper ore]

At first i thought the 5900x was the best then i found someone saying that it would bottle neck the 3080. Then they said that the 5950x would be better. Which felt alittle off to me so i came here for some more advice.

[potent portal]

Sure it'll bottleneck the 3080... at 1080p low settings

1440p or higher and the GPU is the bind

[upper ore]

I will be playing on a 1440p monitor

Well damn

[potent portal]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-review/5

That's currently the same price as the 5900X

[upper ore]

How much would the strix 3080 bind the cpu? Would it be anything to noticeable?

[potent portal]

When you're gaming you want to aim for close to 100% usage on the GPU anyway, that way you have better frame rate stability

Having a gpu bind isn't a bad thing unless it's because of a massively underpowered gpu compared to the cpu

[upper ore]

I noticed the link you sent the clocks are with windows 11. Has windows 11 actually gotten better now?

[potent portal]

It's comparable to 10 in almost every game on nearly every system

But you still don't need to upgrade until 2025

Unless there's new features you want

[upper ore]

Yeah i almost want to stick to 10

[potent portal]

The urge to upgrade because "higher number better" is strong

[upper ore]

Okay so i need a refresher on the cpu cores and thread count thing. If we base performance off of that would the Ryzen 9 5900x be better then the Ryzen 7 5800X3D? Since the 5800x has less of both cores and threads? Whats making the FPS so much better?

[leaden mauve]

Meanwhile I still have a 1070 lol

[jagged ember]

Architecture

[potent portal]

Core count does not matter at all for gaming. No game currently uses more than 4c/8t and the 5600 is 6c/12t.

[jagged ember]

The cache on the CPU is stacked instead being spread across the chip

Also yes

[upper ore]

My current build contains a Strix 1070 and a Ryzen 7 200x and im i need and upgrade lol

[jagged ember]

Core count isn't really an indicator of gaming performance

[leaden mauve]

Same, I'm dailying x99

[potent portal]

You could use a 64 core threadripper and it'll get destroyed by the 5600X in games

[jagged ember]

But 128 core epyc

[potent portal]

The vcache epyc might stand a chance

If you overclock it

[upper ore]

Whats even the most taxing game out rn?

[potent portal]

Maybe MS flight sim?

[stoic island]

I mean there's taxing and there's unoptimized

[potent portal]

Oh wait no they improved that

[jagged ember]

Maybe ms flight sim indeed

[stoic island]

Like star citizen is just horribly optimized

[jagged ember]

Rip

[upper ore]

My current pc struggles bad with high graphics Black desert Online lol

[potent portal]

Online games are just badly optimized

I can barely get 100 fps in ESO at 1080p medium

(in raids)

[upper ore]

I just want to build myself a pc that could kick some ass on higher graphics and be able to have it be able to stand its ground against newer games.

[karmic mirage]

I have a problem can i ppst it here or nah

[potent portal]

Here's fine but if it's related to something more specific it can be helpful to use the related category

[karmic mirage]

Idk what is the problem

[upper ore]

The reason why im doing the strix 3080 OC is because its on sale and it looks like the best deal ill get for awhile

[karmic mirage]

So my pc boots up in Windows loads then shuts off i one time got it too load and almost was in windows desktop but then it shurs off

[karmic mirage]

I meant what causes it

[potent portal]

Sounds like an overheat to me

Is this a new build?

[karmic mirage]

Hmm ill check tomorrow

[jagged ember]

Did you take off the plastic protector on the cooler?

[karmic mirage]

Itnisnt new

[potent portal]

Liquid cooler or air?

[karmic mirage]

Air the old intel one and its second hand

[potent portal]

Ah the stock cooler, yeah that's not ideal

[karmic mirage]

I7 2600

[jagged ember]

Shouldn't be shutting down before boot though

[karmic mirage]

It posts and almosts gers into windows

[jagged ember]

You tried booting into bios yet?

[karmic mirage]

Tried but then it was like nope go boot up

[jagged ember]

Are you spamming the right button for bios?

[upper ore]

Whats the best Asus motherboard to pair with this guy if i get it?

[jagged ember]

Don't lock yourself to a specific brand

Never do that, actually

[karmic mirage]

Yes

[potent portal]

What features do you need? Wifi? USB C?

[karmic mirage]

Its tab for this one

[potent portal]

@upper ore

[upper ore]

A friend of mine told me that buying similar brands work best

[potent portal]

Maybe for rgb but that's about it

[upper ore]

Dont need wifi

[jagged ember]

Im using an MSI Mobo with an Asus gpu

Same brand of components isn't a guarantee for compatibility

[potent portal]

I had a MSI mobo and GPU and it wouldn't post at all lol

[jagged ember]

Or stability

[upper ore]

And i dont need USB C but if it has it im cool with it

[potent portal]

Micro or full ATX

[karmic mirage]

Actually it could be a huge chance that its overheating since there is dust in the cooler

[mossy venture]

I dont think any component in my computer is the same brand as another

[karmic mirage]

Ill check it out tomorrow

[upper ore]

Full i plan on vertically mounting my 3080

[mossy venture]

Asrock mobo, gigabyte gpu, cooler master case, arctic fans, corsair psu, id cooling heatsink, crucial ram, pny ssd, intel ssd, Seagate hdd

[jagged ember]

But I want an only noctua build

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TR848d/asus-prime-b550-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-b550-plus

[upper ore]

Struck between these 2 cases so far https://www.newegg.com/white-corsair-icue-5000x-rgb-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139165 and one of the Phantex Eclipse cases

[stoic island]

P500a?

[potent portal]

5000X is ok if you get the airflow panel but yeah P500a is great

[upper ore]

Yeah

[stoic island]

P500a is nicer for airflow

And the screw box

Screw box is nice

[upper ore]

https://www.newegg.com/matte-white-phanteks-eclipse-p500a-atx-mid-tower/p/11-854-115 havent decided on the color yet

[stoic island]

I like the look of black p500a better

[potent portal]

Actually this one has better VRMs https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BYBhP6/asrock-b550-steel-legend-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-steel-legend

[upper ore]

Yeah so im just getting my Gpu rn since Amazon is running an amazing deal on it. And then ill just hold out until like black friday and new years for deals on the other stuff

[potent portal]

I said it earlier so I'll quote myself:
"Black Friday is a bad time to buy tech in general. They mark things up so they can look marked down and some companies go so far as to make stripped down models especially for sale that week."

[mossy venture]

Depending on price, 5000d airflow might be a better option

[upper ore]

What about the newegg new years deals?

[potent portal]

Those are more normal deals

[upper ore]

So for example this strix 3080 Oc is on sale on amazon for $849. If i look at every other site i looks like a good deal but is it really?

[potent portal]

It's ok but you can find 3080s for about $500 used

[upper ore]

Im pretty sure its new because it doesnt say used or refurbished

[potent portal]

Yeah $800 new is normal right now

But if you don't mind a gpu that was used for less than a year used isn't bad

[upper ore]

But when i look everywhere else its like 1k

[potent portal]

That's called the strix tax

[strong raft]

3070 is $530 btw. Another $300ish for 3080 is far from a deal. $150 strix tax VS FE for example.

[potent portal]

There's other models available for $720

https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-3080-zt-a30820d-10plhr/p/N82E16814500525

[strong raft]

[upper ore]

Alright sorry im back my dinner just got here

[upper ore]

Is that actually a real thing? lol

[mossy venture]

Ah that sucks, I was planning on getting a 13600k on bf

[mossy venture]

Yes, very much so

[upper ore]

Ik its probably an inside joke but cant help it i love the strix cards

[mossy venture]

I honestly hate the look of them

[potent portal]

NEW tech is another story, because it isn't discounted at all lol

[upper ore]

And Asus is probably my favorite company for pc parts for some things and not all.

[strong raft]

Oddly 12600K was only $230 back in May. I should've got it tbh. We know 13600K is gonna be $300ish and the lower stuff is supposedly still ADL sadly. Although nowadays we have sporadic sales of 12600K(F) at $220.

[upper ore]

Quick question is the even that noticeable of a difference between the 3080 and 3090? Like is a 3090 even needed for most games currently out?

[strong raft]

Well not the 12GB 3080.

[upper ore]

The one im looking at getting is the 10gb

[potent portal]

No one needs the 3090, it's maybe 5% more fps for double the price

[upper ore]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Graphics-DisplayPort-Axial-tech-2-9-Slot/dp/B09DDJTSPZ/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1K6YUMKQ8NHQQ&keywords=asus+strix+3080+12gb&qid=1665609980&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjg4IiwicXNhIjoiMS41MSIsInFzcCI6IjEuNTkifQ%3D%3D&s=electronics&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sprefix=asus+strix+3080%2Celectronics%2C91&sr=1-4 Idk if you guys can see it but this is the one im getting.

[potent portal]

What's funny is my 3080 ti gets better fps than the 3090 I had

[strong raft]

Just know that strix has been $800 a month or so ago.

[potent portal]

The 12gb one even

[upper ore]

Yeah but they sell out so fast especially on newegg. Like it shows that newegg has the cheapest but they are always out of stock

[upper ore]

What?

[analog pulsar]

That can be it sometimes just bc it's higher on list doesn't make it better like if you do the aorus 3080 ti vs the evga XC3 3090 ofc the 3080 Ti is gunna come out ahead it can pull more power and boost longer

[upper ore]

I was mainly comparing Strix vs Strix

[analog pulsar]

@potent portal also look what they have ahhhhhh I WANT IT

[analog pulsar]

Well if 3080 ti better then 3090 and both are a strix I think we have a problem

[upper ore]

I mean i didnt say it in chat but its all that ive been taling about recently lol

[mossy venture]

Fair enougu

[analog pulsar]

Lol I just got here

[mossy venture]

I'm waiting for it to release to see if it's as sad as leaks say

With it being 2% better than 12600k in single core

[upper ore]

Ik i was just saying that for the others that have been here lol

[strong raft]

I saw the LC Suprim for $1600 yesterday once. i don't care what current price is, but the 3080 should be $800 max even if strix.

[analog pulsar]

[upper ore]

Im so stuck is the 10gb Strix RTX 3080 not worth it when the 12gb is right there?

[analog pulsar]

Get 12GB

[upper ore]

So the thing is that the 10gb is on sale for $849 and the 12 is not on sale and its $987.38

Thats $138.38 difference without tax of course

[analog pulsar]

Well 12GB is like a 3080 Ti but cheaper and which a 3080 ti is like a 3090 sooo hypothetical a 3080 12GB is kinda like a 3090 giver take a few less fps

[upper ore]

So that extra 138 is worth it for the extra 2gb?

[mossy venture]

No it is not

[strong raft]

Not to me, but I also wouldn't* buy until the 12GB model goes under $850, especially seeing it for $800 & the TuF at $750.

[mossy venture]

Considering an XLR 12gb is $740

https://nzxt.com/product/exclusive-4090-h710i-pc?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=101222_PD2_4090_Announcement&utm_content=broadcast&_kx=XLBHw_5CL5qKR-ae7KgMf2DN-oyI4vTd6lqnfarS3R4%3D.M8RPxA LOL

That 4090 is going to thermal throttle like there is no tommorow

[upper ore]

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Graphics-IceStorm-Advanced-ZT-A30900J-10P/dp/B08ZL6XD9H?ref_=Oct_DLandingS_D_4cb74dba_65&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER How the heck is this guy so cheap?

Well for the Prime sale that makes it 869.99

[mossy venture]

I've seen better 3090s cheaper

Ftw3 on amazon was $825 a week or two ago

3090 ti xlr8 was low 800s yesterday

Wait no

It was $730 lmao

Oos now though

[upper ore]

Are you talking USD? Because thats insane and almost not true

[strong raft]

Realize most 30 series are almost 2 yrs old at this point and were mainly vastly overpriced for quite a while.

[upper ore]

Then when and how would i get my hands on a new card that is the price that everyone is saying they have seen? lol

[strong raft]

Worst case scenario is waiting until after 4080/4070 drops and 30 series then really needs some discounts possibly.

[upper ore]

Yeah thats gonna be what another 2 or 3 years lmfao

[mossy venture]

Look at #tech-deals

I posted it yesterday

[upper ore]

Nasty dude thats PNY lol

Im good

[vague oracle]

Such a weird lineup, 11700KF and 4090

[brittle tinsel]

I desperately need help. I have never had this happen and don’t know what to do.

This dash in the top left is all I see on the monitor and it won’t boot.

It booted before but I had to restart for a software update

After 15 minutes I got this far by just waiting

[mossy venture]

Pny is one of the best gpu makers for nvidia

What are you smoking

[brittle tinsel]

Well I got in, but my boot time is 20 minutes over 1 minute or less. Caused by a razer update???

[mossy venture]

Run command prompt as admin, run an sfc/scannow and chkdsk

[brittle tinsel]

My friends both had computer issues after updating razer synapse today

"Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files and successfully repaired them.
For online repairs, details are included in the CBS log file located at
windir\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For example C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For offline
repairs, details are included in the log file provided by the /OFFLOGFILE flag."

Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
No further action is required.

hopefully that fixes that man

[potent portal]

Razer is a common problem I've found. I had one person that couldn't boot unless they unplugged their mouse, and another person that got electrocuted by his mouse. idfk how

[mossy venture]

Is razer software required to use razer mice?

Bc if not I'm uninstalling the software when I get home

[potent portal]

Nah just for button mapping, sensitivity settings, and rgb mostly

[mossy venture]

Yeah im def uninstalling it then

[weary galleon]

got electrocuted by his mouse

👀

I feel like that might be user error idk

Can confirm that Synapse isn't the best though

[potent portal]

Nah it was a short circuit inside the mouse

Because other things plugged into the same port were fine

[strong raft]

Gotta touch more 9v batteries to get up tolerance.

[potent portal]

It was only a USB 2.0 port so 5V 1A max

[analog hearth]

weak 5W lol

[potent portal]

It's not the voltage but the amperage that'll kill you though

You can take 100kV at 0.001A and be "fine", but 0.1A is possibly lethal

[vague oracle]

Since when? I remember they were great for quadro but I always remember them being pretty bad for GeForce

[potent portal]

They're not exactly the best but most of them are definitely not the worst

[random sapphire]

Is all of TeamGroup T-Force XTREEM ARGB DDR4 RAM 3600 Samsung B-die are what, how do determined that if so?

[toxic wraith]

Hi

[analog pulsar]

And there's more cores and faster bandwidth but like bacca said there's cheaper 3080 12GB and PYN I heard is very nice

[strong raft]

A bit of a fable. Btw I know usb 2 isnt 9v. Just take the joke that isn't funny.

[analog pulsar]

Gpu prices have dropped Severely over the year like 3090 ti supposed to be 2k you can get it for 1k or even cheaper like that one game stop deal for $730 it's wild how prices just plummet

[toxic wraith]

The United Kingdom of Northern Ireland and Great Britain

[analog pulsar]

But if you thunk about it there's no more shortage which means the gpus arnt rare anymore which means there's just a lot which will make prices drop

[wide tiger]

2 parts down

Im probably gonna wait till november sales to buy my other parts

[jagged ember]

Don't

If you pass your rma period and something is doa

You're screwed

Buy everything together as closely as possible in time

Don't buy one thing per month or something

[wide tiger]

Nono

Wait whats rma mean

Im new to like

[jagged ember]

Return if it's broken

[wide tiger]

Everything

[jagged ember]

Buy all your pc components at the same time basically

[wide tiger]

Oooooh

[analog pulsar]

@jagged ember one time I bought a new mobo bc I thought after a part dies its gone forever didn't know warranty was a thing before hahaha

[jagged ember]

So when you put it together and something is dead

You can return it

If you space it all out you can't

[wide tiger]

Oh nono not too spaced out

Im getting the rest of it next month for my bday so not too long a wait

[jagged ember]

Kenzie moment #5618

A month is really stretching it

Id prefer if it's less but

[wide tiger]

😭im not paying for it sadly

[jagged ember]

Tragic

[wide tiger]

So i dont have the choice

🥹

[jagged ember]

Put everything together as soon as you can

Not in the case, just put in enough to see if the PC boots

[wide tiger]

Yeah im having my friend help me the moment i get everything together

[potent portal]

If you have a friend with compatible parts you can test things with that would be ideal

[jagged ember]

If the PC doesn't boot

If it does you're usually in the clear

[wide tiger]

luckily i do

[potent portal]

And yes you don't need a case, or storage for that matter, to test boot

[granite delta]

Hello, I was trying to figure out why one of the ram of slots on my mobo wasn’t working and I tried resetting cmos to see if that would work but not my pc won’t post any ideas?

[potent portal]

How old is the pc?

[granite delta]

Can’t tell you for sure maybe 2+

The motherboard says it supports ddr4 2100/2400 mhz but the ram is ddr4 2666 but it worked fine before

[potent portal]

It's possible for a single slot or channel to die.
Are the sticks in slots 2 and 4, counting from the cpu?

[granite delta]

There’s only 2 slots it’s a h110 pro btc +

[potent portal]

Ah ok then

Is it booting with only one slot or the other populated?

[granite delta]

Well before it was booting with one slot but now after the cmos reset none

[potent portal]

You might need a new cmos battery

Usually they need to be replaced every few years

[granite delta]

You think?

The pc still turns on

And the fans are running and everything

[potent portal]

Yeah all the battery would affect is configuration settings, and if they're corrupt it won't post

[granite delta]

Can it be any cmos battery and where do I buy one?

[potent portal]

They're super common coin cells. You can get them anywhere that sells batteries. 2032

The 2032 is used in a lot of electronics, mostly small remotes, thermometers, garage door openers...

[jagged ember]

Isn't it weird we haven't made those rechargeable

[potent portal]

https://www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-Batteries-Lithium-Button-CR2032/dp/B07RYS4PTJ

😜

[granite delta]

Thanks

If that doesn’t work what do you recommend?

[potent portal]

Just some from your local drug store or walmart, doesn't matter what brand

[granite delta]

I was thinking buying a pair of ddr3 ram sticks

And trying that

[potent portal]

If the board is DDR4 then DDR3 won't fit

[granite delta]

These are fine?

[potent portal]

Yep. Duracell is always a good brand for longevity.

[granite delta]

I just like duracell cause that’s the brand I’ve always used my whole life 😂

Thanks I appreciate it

[potent portal]

They're the more premium brand that costs more but lasts a bit longer so you don't need to change batteries as often

Fingers crossed it helps. Do a full power drain after putting the new one in.

[granite delta]

I just hope it works cause I have someone buying the pc on Saturday 😭

[granite delta]

How do I do that

[potent portal]

Unplug it and hold the power button for 10 seconds, release for 10 seconds, press for 10 seconds again, then wait for 15 minutes. That drains all the capacitors.

After that you plug in again

[granite delta]

Could I maybe try that now?

[potent portal]

Nothing's stopping you

It won't hurt it

[dense reef]

Where is the best place to scan my pc and giving me pretty much all of my hardware details... cause honestly I forgot what it is

[potent portal]

Hwinfo will tell you

[paper summit]

Demon how u building these pcs for so cheap lol

[vague oracle]

It’s demon, don’t ask questions

[leaden mauve]

@austere condor would you happen to have a 7980 or 9980xe

[austere condor]

Nope

Haven't had one for a long time

[weary galleon]

Used parts probably?

[olive cypress]

For some reason my desktop doesn't want to left click, solutions? Everything works except the left click on desktop, right click is ok and other apps work fine
Solved

The problem looks like to be the overall desktop, doesn't even work with keyboard (using tab or typing a app/shortcut/folder name)

[toxic wraith]

Bruh ion know anymore is the 12600k worth i heard that if u tweak the memory well it can be as good as the 12900k

[cyan ravine]

Pretty much

Tho "as good as 12900K" your mileage will vary

[olive cypress]

You still won't have as many cores btw

But in game performance yes.. that'll improve a lot

[cyan ravine]

Yeah I meant that in a game context my b

[bronze salmon]

ohh, do you guys have tips on what I should do

I'll be assembling the parts rn 😳, like common things I should remember, and how to make an ssd a boot drive (I only have 1 ssd rn, not sure if I should make it both my boot and storage if it's alright)

both excited and scared 😆

[fossil cedar]

read the manuals if you have questions, to make the drive your boot drive you just install the OS on it and yes only having ssd for os is very wasteful imo

[analog hearth]

manual > google > asking a person.
like Pato said, install the OS on your SSD, instead of your hard drive (if you got one). pro tip for that: keep only the boot drive (or the drive you want to boot from) plug in while every other drive is unplugged. it’ll make identifying the drive to boot from a lot easier

[fossil cedar]

Not only that but windows will sometimes put the boatload on a different drive if you have all drives plugged in

[rigid oracle]

i don’t understand, why don’t people just install linux instead of getting a windows 10 license when building a computer? linux is free and you could use the money you save on better hardware

gaming on linux has been looking very promising too with the steam deck

my rig runs linux and i only had issues with drivers at first, but once that was settled, i basically forgot i was on linux at all lol

i get the same performance on linux as i did on windows, sometimes even better because of less background junk

[mossy venture]

Windows is free to use too

Linux is also less tech illiterate friendly a lot of the time

[fossil cedar]

Windows is free, since windows 8 you could use windows perfectly with a tiny watermark if unactivated

Also a lot of things on linux just straight wont work

[empty pollen]

and most games are windows friendly

thats why some of us call it "wintendo"

[fossil cedar]

Some steam games are getting more compatibility yeah but try play an epic or battle net games

[fossil cedar]

Rommy

[brittle tinsel]

Just tried turning it on after running those yesterday. Same issues.

Would vga debug really not allow a boot?

[rigid oracle]

what i do to combat this is i add those launchers as a non steam game, however, some games have an anti cheat that absolutely hates wine/proton

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[wanton cedar]

Had a question about side mounted fans and bottom mounted fans and the way they should be oriented.

Oh wait can’t post photos here one sec

Have to Imgur

[earnest olive]

the three games I spend 99.9% of my gaming time playing have 0 compatibility with Linux whatsoever

let's not pretend linux is all the way there for gaming

it's making progress

@wanton cedar dm them to me I'll post for you

[still roost]

Brandon#7007 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wanton cedar]

Oh can’t swear lol

https://imgur.com/a/bGzIpdC

Try to move past the bad cable management

Been moving around parts all day and will clean it up once I have everything situated. I wanted to know what is wrong with the fan orientation there

Or is it okay?

[earnest olive]

jesus you weren't kidding

flip the bottom fan, the rest is fine

[wanton cedar]

Gotcha okay. Now the way the bottom fan is facing, that is exhaust or intake?

Currently facing*

Because I thought with GPU fans being intake I should have the bottom fan as well be an intake fan

[potent portal]

The side with the plastic frame is the side the fan blows towards

So the front ones are set to intake in that pic and the rear exhaust

[wanton cedar]

Gotcha okay

[wanton cedar]

“Your front, bottom fans are intaking. Your top and back should be out taking but your back is intaking”. Is what someone also suggested I do

To maximize air flow

Is there any validity to that?

[wanton cedar]

Someone also suggested
#1 take out the side fans
#2 put all 3 fans if possible to the bottom under the gpu and make sure they are all intaking air.
#3 turn the fans at the back around so they are exhausting air

[frigid night]

#1/#2: Could do that to maximize the airflow directly to your GPU. Could also just get 2 more fans to put there as well as what you already have installed.

#3: Your rear fans are already exhausting so you are good there.

[wanton cedar]

Gotcha okay!

Yeah it’s just a lot to take in. You folks say the back fans are exhausting while others say they are intaking

Just lots to learn is all

Anyways going to def do #1 and #2

[frigid night]

yeah.. I'd stop listening to whoever is telling you the rear fans are intaking lol.

[wanton cedar]

Appreciate the patience and advice btw! Believe me it helps

[wanton cedar]

@frigid night @potent portal alrighty so this is what I’m working with now! In the Imgur in order it’s bottom mounted fans, then the top mounted AIO, rear case fans, and then the front fans https://imgur.com/a/0OGJPZH

https://imgur.com/a/0OGJPZH

Oops forgot to include the link there we go lol

HAF 700 EVO is fun to build in but a pain to move around lol

[analog pulsar]

I need this emoji

[granite delta]

@potent portal I tried a new battery and it didn’t work

[blazing granite]

any recommendation on AIO for AMD 7950X?

[granite delta]

You think I should try different ram?

[upper ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qVNLqm Whats everyone's thoughts on my new build?

[empty pollen]

too expensive monitor

and psu

and case

[mossy venture]

And os

[empty pollen]

you can slash at least 400usd on those 4 things

[mossy venture]

Yeah, g360a would save $57

Gf1 850 just as good and would save $85

M27q-p $140 or so

Os, $130, as windows is free to use

[granite delta]

Can anyone help I reset my cmos cause my mobo was only reading one ram stick and now it turns on but it’s just a black screen

I replaced the battery but it still doesn’t work

[upper ore]

I already own it

I got it when it was on sale

[dim forge]

how much is a windows 10 key tho?

like 20usd?

[empty pollen]

we dont talk about that here 😛

thing is, windows is free to use

[dim forge]

oh I didn't know srry

[empty pollen]

you dont need a license right away to run your system

you can spend that money on better parts

and worry about the license later

[dim forge]

what are the "benefits" of a license tho?

[empty pollen]

some security updates mostly

but the watermark on the right lower corner is the main issue

its kinda annoying

[weary galleon]

Why even is that a rule anyways?

It's not illegal

Or well not always illegal

[potent portal]

It's hard to tell where those grey market keys come from, some of them might be from stolen credit cards etc. and people are using it to launder money for example.

[weary galleon]

Fair I guess. Though there are places that sell legit OEM keys for $20

(OEM keys are legal to resell, at least in the US)

[potent portal]

Indeed but even those are marketplaces with unknown origin of the keys. I think there was exactly one site that was transparent on where the keys originate and I don't remember the name.

Exactly this. If it's posted on this discord someone is going to think it's being endorsed by newegg.

[toxic wraith]

Hi https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VT2F3y

[weary galleon]

At that price point you might want to consider a slightly better SSD than mp33

[vivid copper]

what's your total budget? and probably want to up your PSU that 6900XT wants at least a 900W supply, and like dude said that mp33 is bottom of the barrel unless you just want space on the cheap

[stoic island]

not necessary to upgrade psu

[toxic wraith]

Hi

[stoic island]

it's doable with 750

nice to get 850w but 750w is doable

[toxic wraith]

I found a leadex flower gold thingy for 105

i dont remember the exact name

850w

[stoic island]

leadex iii is good

[toxic wraith]

yeah that

[vivid copper]

its doable buy why cheap out on a 1.5K build....a 850W is $10-$15 more at max

[toxic wraith]

Like?

[toxic wraith]

it was just a placeholder sorry i rushed through it

I can do leadex iii gold flower 850w

[stoic island]

850w is nice to have, but if necessary, 750w is doable for whatever reasons

either way, don't need 900w

[vivid copper]

should always go with the manufacturers suggestions....saving that 20 bux isn't worth the stability of your system

[stoic island]

could save 15$ and not have to suffer with Corsair

[stoic island]

manufacturers overestimate power for various reasons

They don't know what you're pairing it with

[paper summit]

This^

[vivid copper]

point still stands...and a PSU is a longer term investment....i'm not saying overspec and buy a 1300W supply but if you're buying a top end card treat it properly....plus if he gets a 12700 or 12900 in the future he'd have to buy another supply when he can just spend an extra 20 and be cool

[stoic island]

don't need to

[vivid copper]

not running a 12700K and a 6900XT on a 750W...you'd be a fool to...not saying you can't but why just to prove what point?

[toxic wraith]

its fine i can jsut get an 850w

[stoic island]

You still can, especially without overclocking

These chips are very good about sticking to power limits if you don't remove pl

[vague oracle]

Lol I’ve been running a 5900x and a 3080 12gb off a 750w decently OCed and still works wonders

[stoic island]

pl1 at 125w performs 99% as well as if you maxed it to 241w

Even then you'd still have enough overhead

anyways

doesn't matter

[broken lake]

Crazy question

[stoic island]

750w will work

[broken lake]

If I cut the rgb wires off of fans will that break anything?

[stoic island]

if you already have a 750w unit or can only get a 750w unit for some reason, don't let that discourage you

[broken lake]

They are getting in the way and being annoying

[paper summit]

Gonna explode my 650 lol i need a new psu

[stoic island]

uh, which part

[broken lake]

I have fans that have a power cable and an rgb cable

And I’m only using the power cable

[weary galleon]

Samsung 980, P41, crucial p5

[stoic island]

Definitely would not recommend, but theoretically you can cut them off and put electrical tape on the ends

[weary galleon]

Idk exactly what's best

[stoic island]

for future reference p41 is way better than 980 and p5

[broken lake]

I think I just need to make my friend buy more arctic fans

W fans fr

[stoic island]

It's like
mp33 tier (e13t/sm2263xt drives)
mp34 tier (e12/sm2262en drives)

[toxic wraith]

uh

so whats practical

[toxic wraith]

im getting p12 i think they're good idk

[paper summit]

Still looking at that 2080ti with the 1 broken fan

Idkkkk

I might do it

[stoic island]

And then Rocket 4 tier (e16 drives or equivalent)
and Rocket 4 plus tier (e18 drives or equivalent)

[broken lake]

Like the best of the best honestly

Much air flow

Cheap

Very quiet

[stoic island]

arctic p12 is nice

[broken lake]

Value fan

Like noctua but a 1/4 of the price and looks 100x better

[stoic island]

man pcpp is lying about sn850x price, I was getting excited

[broken lake]

What is sn850x

[stoic island]

XS70 still good
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09T2WNKNZ

[stoic island]

wd ssd, it has fun bics5

[broken lake]

Finally got around to building my friends pc and now we are just trying to get wires out of the way of the fans

Fun stuff

[leaden mauve]

post a picture @broken lake

👀

[runic spruce]

Shoving wires in the shroud is the best form of cable management

[broken lake]

Gimme like 10 minutes

I’ll take a pic after all the wires are not being annoying

[broken lake]

Tru

[leaden mauve]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[broken lake]

Impatient? lol

[leaden mauve]

nah

its probably not an x79/x99/x299 system so im not that excited :)

[broken lake]

Idk what those are so I’m gonna say probably not

It’s 1080ti 12600k 32gb ram 850w psu

Gpu gonna get upgraded soon ish

[leaden mauve]

😔

[toxic wraith]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dPVnC6 Hi

[cyan ravine]

RAM
Cooler meh, can do better
PSU too expensive

Case you could also do cheaper but if you like it that's a decent one

[stoic island]

XPG Core Reactor 850w is 110$

g360a is a nice case

freezer ii 240 is fine tbh but if you grab g360a you can top mount 360mm rad

[cyan ravine]

It's that price tho

You can do b stock for a lot less

Like, sub 60? Iirc

[toxic wraith]

psu is usually 115 or so

im just using that because thats the actual item

[toxic wraith]

Im the stupid person who bought the p400a a while ago 😔

[cyan ravine]

GF1 PE is 89

So cheaper still

That ram is a total no tho imo, just, I wouldn't even look

Too many XMP issues with vengeance DDR4

You could consider ripjaws, they have something like a 4000MT/s kit near that price

Might need to play with it to get it to train gear 1 (or downclock it a bit to stay in gear 1)

[toxic wraith]

gf1 was my second option

[cyan ravine]

GF1 would be better value if you get it for that price

Still an A tier

[toxic wraith]

ye

i want rgb on my ram tho

i might do teamgroup if vengeance has xmp issues

[cyan ravine]

Team group would be better yeah

[toxic wraith]

u think a 280mm rad for an aio would fit on the top

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Use arctic ebay b stock

[toxic wraith]

whats b stock

[cyan ravine]

Same cooler just way cheaper

[toxic wraith]

i asked earlier but no one ever answers me

[cyan ravine]

It's refurbished or slightly blemished stock (Often it's not tho - good as new)

[toxic wraith]

oh

[cyan ravine]

Often returned and then resold as fully functional and a full package again

The discounts are worth it, the 360 LF2 is $68

[toxic wraith]

so its basically used

[stoic island]

would change case to g360a and grab 360mm though

[toxic wraith]

But functional

[stoic island]

It's refurbished

[cyan ravine]

Used but with a warranty

[toxic wraith]

i see

[cyan ravine]

Considering it's more than half price on some sku's it's 100% worth it

[toxic wraith]

i bought the p400a like an entire year ago i would switch if it was returnable

woah why is my ebay link so long

[cyan ravine]

Everything after "?" Delete

[toxic wraith]

ok

[stoic island]

wack

[toxic wraith]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/354042518760?

[cyan ravine]

Close enough lol

And yeah that's better

Much better

[toxic wraith]

ok thanks

[cyan ravine]

Np

[toxic wraith]

Wait a minute

i gotta attach the radiator to the front

if i want an aio

[cyan ravine]

What about 360

[toxic wraith]

yea

360 front

then i can attack the p12

on the rear and top

attach

[cyan ravine]

Le oof, no top rad support?

Oh well, won't really make a difference either way

[toxic wraith]

welp

[cyan ravine]

Never really looked at that before

[toxic wraith]

hopefully it will still look good

[cyan ravine]

It'll look fine lol

[toxic wraith]

3 intake on the front and top and rear are exhaust right

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[toxic wraith]

something is up with me

i should be getting more sleep

[cyan ravine]

Oh uh

[toxic wraith]

do you think this is a good deal https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Odyssey-FreeSync-Futuristic-LS27AG550ENXZA/dp/B09TS2DLVN?ref_=Oct_DLandingS_D_eb88252e_65&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

[cyan ravine]

M27Q-P is better iirc

Not a bad price tho

If you mean the prime price

[toxic wraith]

yes

[cyan ravine]

Look up M27Q-P

[toxic wraith]

what about this one

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-M27Q-PRO-Monitor-Response/dp/B0927BQT33/ref=sr_1_1?crid=QL72ICGUMZEN&keywords=M27Q-P&qid=1665729867&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjYxIiwicXNhIjoiMS4wNiIsInFzcCI6IjAuOTkifQ%3D%3D&s=electronics&sprefix=%2Celectronics%2C506&sr=1-1&th=1

[cyan ravine]

Not seeing the price there

My amazon whack sometimes you'd have to tell me

[toxic wraith]

230

[cyan ravine]

Ye that's not bad, if you can afford the step up of 50 or so M27Q/Q-P is better

[toxic wraith]

All I want is a curved monitor so i don’t put a strain on my eyes 1440p and atleast 144hz for a decent price

Now that I think about it

I’m asking for a lot

[steady canyon]

Hello sorry it took me so long to respond. My aio is a Gaming T750 240 LC cooler,AVC and it makes this bubbling sound and ive tried tipping it at different angles and shaking it a little but nothing works if i do need to replace it would there be one u recommend

Honestly i have this prebuilt lenovo pc im looking to upgrade the storage and replace the aio. Heres my pcs specs. Processor
1x 10th Generation Intel® Core™ i9-10900K Processor(Core i9-10900K)

Memory
2x 16GB DDR4 3200

Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64(EN:English)

Hard Drive
1x 1TB 7200rpm
1x 1TB PCIe TLC
1x Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX201 2x2 AX & Bluetooth® 5.0 with vPro®

Ports
1x 4 High Speed USB 3.0 (back); 2 High Speed USB 2.0 (back); Headphone (front); 1 Microphone(front); 2 Internal High Speed USB 2.0; 2 High Speed USB 3.0 (front); AC-IN; Audio Port; Ethernet

Graphics
1x GeForce RTX 3080 10GB

power supply
100-240Vac,850W pickup PSU

can anyone recommend anything for upgrades it would help a lot I'm clueless?

[obsidian wigeon]

It doesn't seem to need much upgrades

Other than maybe some case fans if it doesn't have one already

Ram can definitely be changed tho

Since OEM 3200mhz ram always runs at jedec spec with cl22 or cl20

[white osprey]

Not really sure where else to put this but I’ve been wondering if I can get some help with an issue I’m having on my pc. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/657753562247462922/1029541809510154311/B7F2C1B3-9476-44D4-8E8E-70266FF2EE83.jpg

This pops up when I start my computer

The first time I started it, it worked for about a minute then it just kept restarting over and over again

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/657753562247462922/1029895149372850208/A80E0156-1782-429E-954C-750507E148FE.jpg

This is my boot sequence if that matters

I have 1 ssd and 1 hdd

[gentle pollen]

Is there a way to install a infinity mirror inside a Fractal torrent?

Or is double sided tape the only way.

[fossil cedar]

Depends how much you care about ruining your case

[gentle pollen]

Why, is option B drilling holes?

[empty pollen]

drill holes on the infinity mirror? o.O

[vague oracle]

The motherboard doesn’t support XMP, he’d need a new one

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

[vague oracle]

That’s the only downside to the Lenovo legion prebuilts imo

[mossy venture]

Well that and cooling

Don't most of them only have a single place for a fan at the back for an exhaust?

[obsidian wigeon]

Mhm

[late fjord]

Let's see if this $35 cooler can handle my 5800x 😏

[mossy venture]

It can

[late fjord]

Omg it fits though. By like a paper thin amount

Claims to be 135mm but with mounting bracket I was nervous it wouldn't

[empty pollen]

clearance measurement take everything into account from the base of the mobo including brackets

[late fjord]

I winged it and was successful 😅

Hopefully it will do a good enough job until I get my aio figured out

[paper summit]

Another good 3080 deal

I dont have quite enough yet tho

[obsidian wigeon]

ventus not good tho

[mossy venture]

I mean, it'll run hot but it shouldn't throttle, atleast without ocing

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[paper summit]

I mean its a 3 fan

Its prob fine

[static crown]

Hi there, Newegg sent me here...I was wondering if I could get some help with a motherboard selection please?

Slovskii in another chat said try here

[little osprey]

So you're building a new PC I'm assuming correct?

[mossy venture]

It's arguably the worst model

The number of fans doesn't really mean anything

[static crown]

Technically, yes. I built a decent machine about 5 years ago with a 3700x. I just bought a 5950x. Looking at rebuilding in new case basically and I want to make sure I get great audio as well. I do design work for a living so that's important. Considering Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite WIFI

[mossy venture]

There's dual fan 3070s that are better than ventus 3x 3070

[little osprey]

Lemmie double check what socket that is RQ

Alright, AM4

I'm stupid

Do you need any wifi or anything?

[stoic island]

What's your budget? If you really care about audio, you should get a separate audio interface and/or dac/amp

[little osprey]

Yeah, @stoic island would be a better person to help you 😅

[stoic island]

For the jump in price between boards that have like a alc892 to alc1200, you could just get an apple 3.5mm to usb-c dongle for 10$ that's a better dac than both

[static crown]

Or, is it even important to worry about the motherboard and just go with a soundcard?

[stoic island]

Internal sound cards are relatively obscure now, external interfaces are common

The motherboard can still matter for other reasons for a 5950x, general io and VRMs mainly

[stoic island]

Anyways, right now, what's your budget, how much are you willing to spend on a motherboard?

[static crown]

For once in my life I can say I have a good budget, I'm more concerned about overall performance I suppose, just don't want to be stupid

[stoic island]

So could I assume 200$?

[static crown]

For sure

[stoic island]

For your design work, do you care about having extra USB slots for any reason, any big storage concerns, and any extra pcie add in cards you want to use?

[little osprey]

@stoic island is typing an essay

[static crown]

No need for extra USB slots I don't believe. My 500GB hard drive is certainly not enough. I don't think I need anything crazy as far as storage is concerned. I use an external drive pretty regular for backup.

[stoic island]

Do you need wifi or are you using ethernet

[static crown]

Actually no need to WIFI. Using 1G fiber with ethernet run direct.

[stoic island]

Any aesthetic preferences?

[static crown]

I kinda want to do some RGB this time, but not a huge deal. If it's a tradeoff, function over aesthetics.

[static crown]

Not sure if I want to get into the headache of custom water cooling but it looks fun...lol. I do like a challenge 😆

[mossy venture]

Custom loop isn't worth it for 99.9% of people

[static crown]

Thank you so much for responding!

[mossy venture]

You're looking at minimum 1k for the components to put a custom loop together

Plus the headache of making sure it all works, and the added risk to the system if something is done wrong

Also changing the liquid every so often I believe

[static crown]

Yeah, seems like a nightmare honestly

[little osprey]

Do they even make RGB water cooling?

[stoic island]

You can put dye in and use backlighting

[stoic island]

Can't really find nice boards with just straight up rgb, here's just a decent nice board, you can just get more rgb stuff on top
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-pro-v2/p/N82E16813145271

[cold turtle]

hello everyone, I am trying to pick a laptop within the price range of 550-700. As this is the first time I will buy a laptop, it is very challenging for me to choose the one that will suit my needs the best. I almost never do gaming (when I do, I avoid graphics heavy game and play something like raft, minecraft and others like it, always on low settings) , I watch movies, series and study, hence read a lot. For those purposes, I try to prioritise screen quality over anything else. My studies will begin in less than a week and I have to buy a laptop,therefore need advice. My top picks are:

1- https://www.alternate.de/html/product/1868203

2-https://www.alternate.de/ASUS/Vivobook-14X-OLED-(M3401QA-KM137W)-Notebook/html/product/1821600

[wide sparrow]

[little osprey]

Quick question, Euros or USD?