Dang
#building-and-recc-chat
frigid night
frigid night
Yeah
limber oyster
I could paint it....
frigid night
Meh.
limber oyster
It'd be white then
frigid night
I could paint mine white lol
frigid night
No thanks and you can't openly try to sell stuff in this server.
torpid scroll
Hey can anyone make me a PC build with the grand total price of 1360$? Maybe abit too much to ask lol
cyan ravine
What's it being used for?
limber oyster
Anyone know how to fix a memory leak for a GPU
limber oyster
Memory leak
obsidian wigeon
What do you mean by that?
I've never seen any game use more vram the longer it's been running
cyan ravine
It sounds like it's application-based if it's happening
obsidian wigeon
@torpid scroll Sure I can help, what's your country?
forest briar
Memory leaks are almost always application based
limber oyster
I get a message saying from borderlands 2 that I ran out of VRAM. I spoke to the support for the game and the common cause for that issue is Memory Leak
obsidian wigeon
Mem leak for vram sounds very unlikely
cyan ravine
I can't imagine not having enough vram for that game
cyan ravine
Sounds like something they need to patch
obsidian wigeon
Probably driver issue
limber oyster
It happened with my 2070S as well
cyan ravine
Is it just borderlands?
limber oyster
Mhmm
cyan ravine
Then it'll be the game
obsidian wigeon
It's either game or driver issue
cyan ravine
If it was happening with other stuff then maayyybbbeee DDU
limber oyster
It happened with my 2070 Super. I used DDU before installing my 3080
cyan ravine
But if it's specific to a game then it's something on their end
Note nvidia driver updates also help address specific issues like these too if you aren't already on the latest driver
limber oyster
So ...three of my borderlands are permanently broken...great
limber oyster
Note nvidia driver updates also help address specific issues like these too if y...
I have it set to auto install the driver updates...
cyan ravine
Ok I am just bringing it up in case it wasn't done is all
limber oyster
I wonder if I could get it via Epic games and then just transfer my save files over....
Except it's not the only borderlands I'm having issues with so...
Oh well
cyan ravine
I did ask if it was just borderlands only
limber oyster
It is
This issue is only borderlands 2
In borderlands 3 the textures don't load
Borderlands 1 has game files missing immediately after download and file verification
cyan ravine
Have you OC'd this system at all?
limber oyster
For B1, I even got a brand new drive from Best Buy and had only that game on it
limber oyster
Have you OC'd this system at all?
CPU is set to OC as needed via BIOS
cyan ravine
As needed what does that mean lol
limber oyster
Its speed varies depending on use, but only maxes at 4.2
My GPU is set to Boost Lock via EVGA Precision
cyan ravine
Oh ok so this sounds like a Zen 2 PBO system
limber oyster
Ryzen 7 3700x
cyan ravine
Bingo
limber oyster
Both are liquid cooled with their own 360mm aio
cyan ravine
So why have you boost locked the gpu?
torpid scroll
<@254958008876924928> Sure I can help, what's your country?
Thanks alot. It's UAE
cyan ravine
Is this an undervolt?
obsidian wigeon
oof, well then i can't help
limber oyster
I'm not sure what it does voltage wise
cyan ravine
Ok
torpid scroll
oof, well then i can't help
No worries you reside in the states?
obsidian wigeon
nah
cyan ravine
So you only really boost lock to keep a card running as hard as possible 24/7
I would turn it off, it won't make the card faster
limber oyster
It's running 2025
cyan ravine
If anything it'll run slower
limber oyster
Which is not the fastest I've got it to hit
It's running I think the stock boost speed
obsidian wigeon
GPUs has dynamic boost
limber oyster
Again, not 100% sure
obsidian wigeon
Locking clock basically renders that boost useless
cyan ravine
2025 probably not stock if I'm remembering the strix vbios numbers
torpid scroll
nah
Ah I see sorry for the assumption lol . Thanks for the attempt honestly country doesn't matter much
cyan ravine
Locking clock basically renders that boost useless
You also get unnecessary heat dumped into the system, gpu runs warmer so it's just running hot all the time basically
VRM's are warmer as well so a bit more unstable
Can you turn the boost lock off and try these things on stock clocks?
limber oyster
I can once my controller is charged
So...at 450mhz but GPU temp is 32-33°C, at 2025 it was 39°C....on idle
cyan ravine
Ya but it's just a heat dump
limber oyster
My fans also aren't at 100% so...
cyan ravine
It doesn't make it quicker
Allowing it to change boost dynamically will definitely help stability as it lets the gpu bring boost down for harder frames
limber oyster
Ahh
cyan ravine
So in one sense, it may explain some of the weirdness
limber oyster
But if that was one of the causes wouldn't I have issues in other games? Not trying to argue, just curious
cyan ravine
Yes and no
GPU stability can be broken by a single game if it's difficult enough
Does this relate to the vram leak? Cannot say, I'm not familiar
But certain games and certain fps tests are used as good indicators for stability but not the whole picture ever
limber oyster
According to Borderlands 2 support, that's my issue
cyan ravine
On the alternative side if this works then you just need to downclock the GPU for borderlands
Silicon limits are silicon limits after all
tardy pecan
Build in progress! But i want input before i get all the rest of the components
Main goal is to play current and older releases at 1080p ultrawide (2560x1080) and potentially new releases for the next few years
mossy venture
Build in progress! But i want input before i get all the rest of the components ...
which parts have you bought?
just the case and psu?
frank stirrup
hm
tardy pecan
no baking for me then
mossy venture
are you only gaming?
mossy venture
thoughts on this case? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FzVmP6/bitfenix-nova-mesh-se-tg-atx-mid-tower-case-bfc-nse-300-wwgkw-rp
tardy pecan
looks like a case XD im not toooooo picky i just bought what looked nice and my buddy has the 101 and his impressions were positive after about two years of use
mossy venture
kk
tardy pecan
He just doesn’t like that it’s a smaller case
mossy venture
inwin cases are pretty much all terrible, most cases with a solid front are not good
and inwin is especially bad because they also use solid tops
tardy pecan
that makes sense
This case has intake in the bottom and exhaust out the side and rear near the mobo
mossy venture
do you plan to use ethernet?
tardy pecan
do you plan to use ethernet?
I do
fossil cedar
Personally I'd prefer 1440p but ultrawide is fine
mossy venture
kk, and do you want the case to be white? meant to ask that
mossy venture
i changed the heatsink and gpu model too https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KCRxW4
mech 2x is pretty bad, especially on anything higher than 6600
fossil cedar
Ehhh
tardy pecan
mmmm
mossy venture
could also change fans actually
p12 5 pack pst if you don't mind them being black, or p12 white 3 pack
tardy pecan
gotcha
mossy venture
also ssd is pretty pointless for gaming, gen 4 speeds don't really help much. Could get something like the mp33 and be just fine
tardy pecan
my original thought process was that it was like 20 dollars more than a SATA SSD whilst advertising speeds almost 15x as fast lol
Now i know that in real world applications i wont see speeds that fast, but for large file transfers i feel like it cant hurt
mossy venture
oh the 5700x isn't actually $523, when you click on amazon it shows $250
tardy pecan
MP33 has a good price though
mossy venture
ye. 2tb is $132 i believe
mossy venture
no dram, but dram affects sequential speeds which aren't important for gaming
only really needed if you're doing daily writes to the drive
tardy pecan
I like modding games and sometimes do large file transfers so i think buying a drive with cache would benefit me thanks for the info
it’s not a whole lot more to get one with cache i dont think
mossy venture
and you want 2tb?
tardy pecan
To start yes but i will probably add SATA ssds for stuff like file storage or game library
well games i dont play as often atleast
mossy venture
Then I'd either stick with that p5 or get this one, I don't remember which ones better https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vMFKHx/seagate-firecuda-520-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-zp2000gm3a002
tardy pecan
i think that’s a gen 3?
nope gen 4
the uhhhh 6700 xt should be great for 2560x1080 though right
fossil cedar
@tardy pecan id do this, both monitors are fine, personal I'd go 1440p instead of ultrawide tho so put in a recommendation
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4477yK
tardy pecan
Thanks for the recommendation
i currently use jerryrig ultrawide by changing the resolution of my monitor its just my preference
now im wondering why we call it 21:9 instead of 7:3
fossil cedar
Also dram has very little to do with ssd speed i highly doubt you'll be needing over 3gb/s
tardy pecan
I’d prefer to have the cache
But is the 6750 xt really worth the extra 30-50 dollars? The performance difference doesnt seem like a whole lot and it draws more power from the wall
fossil cedar
But is the 6750 xt really worth the extra 30-50 dollars? The performance differe...
Mp33 doesn't need cache cuz it uses hmb (like 50mb of system ram) really nothing you needa worry about
But yea it's worth the 40$ it's about 10% better
empty pollen
👀
tardy pecan
Mp33 doesn't need cache cuz it uses hmb (like 50mb of system ram) really nothing...
What about the 6750 xt vs the 6700 xt?
It doesn’t seem like enough performance difference that id notice and it draws more power
fossil cedar
But yea it's worth the 40$ it's about 10% better
@tardy pecan ^
tardy pecan
ouhhh i thought you were talking about the MP33 vs the P5 plus my bad
stoic island
p5 plus is not worth that much more than mp33 but yea
6750xt over 6700xt if the prices are similar
fossil cedar
If you really wanted a premium drive 970 evo plus atm at 180 @tardy pecan
mossy venture
yes
little osprey
pretty sure it comes with 3 but i could be wrong
It does, one on the back, two in the front
weary galleon
Mesh front & top plus 6 included fans
"fixed rgb" though
Also a white version for same price rn
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147308
Mesh front & top plus 4 included rgb ring fans
limber oyster
Finally got a vertical mount I like....just needs a bit of modification
broken lake
Ok so I’m helping someone build a pc and I was wondering what is a good build that you can get for $2k usd
They need a monitor and a keyboard also
weary galleon
if they can wait, maybe wait for next gen stuff
olive cypress
Monitor and keyboard included within this budget?
You'd probably go for 3080 + 12700k for that price but if you want prebuilt idk...
vivid copper
Ok so I’m helping someone build a pc and I was wondering what is a good build th...
This would leave about $80 for a keyboard...peripherals are sooo subjective but you can easily find a good mechanical keyboard for that price. 5800x paired with a 6900xt will murder anything at 1440p. if they needed wifi on the board they can either up the board to one with wifi or buy an m.2 wifi adapter that will slot into that mobo. You could go the 12th gen route as well but you'd have to step down the GPU....any modern 8 core will handle just about any game so i'd suggest you get them the stronger GPU. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ygqfDq
empty pollen
this is the intel alternative
no need to step down on the gpu, just on some other parts to make room
formal girder
Better price too ^^
vivid copper
no need to step down on the gpu, just on some other parts to make room
But why tho? The 6900xt is marginally better and personally I'd rather have a 3080 because of RT but no need to go with a worse drive, significantly worse ram and sacrifice expandability with an mATX mobo inside a full ATX case just to use an Intel CPU....just my opinion....
Maximize the budget...
empty pollen
worse ram? worse drive?
what makes the ripjaws a better ram than the t vulcanz?
also the spatium is 50% expensive than the mp33 for the same storage, and yes, the spatium is gen4, but unless you are into heavy artistic design and moving a lot, and i mean a LOT of big files the speed difference between gen3 and gen4 is almost non existent for the average gamer.
if you want to justify a gen4 drive for the artistic design then the 6900xt is a worse card than a 3080. maximizing the budget means getting the best price to performance for your daily use
about expandability: the msi a-pro have 2 m2 slots and 4 sata connectors, that amount for 6 drives, i dont see the problem on expandability for an average gamer. if you want 8 drives or 10 drives instead you need to spend like 100usd more for a z690, and thats a lot more money. To me on a being on a budget means no overspending on something i will not use.
vivid copper
worse ram? worse drive?
The timings on that ram are 16-20-20-40 which is pretty horrible for 3200 and as someone who daily drives gen 3 and gen 4 drives the difference is very noticeable, of course not when gaming as games aren't programed to take advantage of such speeds yet, but downloads, installs, etc are dramatically different. And even if I was to recommend a gen 3 drive I most certainly wouldn't use one without DRAM as an OS drive with speeds of only 1800/1500 and only 600 TBW. The Spatium is not only 3 times as fast it's longevity is superior at 1600 TBW. And by expandability i mean the physical limits of hardware...cards are getting bigger and bigger and yes maybe most only need one x16 slot and that's it, but its plenty of streamers and casual gamers that still wanna use anything from PCIE wifi cards to video capture devices etc. And just on a cosmetic note a mATX inside a full ATX case looks goofy. Fill out the case...or just get an mATX case....the TD 300 Mesh is a great alternative. Usually people go mATX to save space not to save money.
vivid copper
if you want to justify a gen4 drive for the artistic design then the 6900xt is a...
that's your build philosophy and that's fine but mine it to get the best parts for your money. If someone says they want to spend 2K, let's spend 2K and get the best in each catagory for balance. Not the best CPU and pair it with the worse drive/ram.
empty pollen
no, people go matx to save money, not space... atx offers more expandability, thats why z690s are fusll atx most of the time, when you talked about expandabilioty i thought you talked about the mobo, but now you are talking about case constraints. cards are getting bigger but the all share the same pcie x16 slot as a max size which the matx mobos cover
about the drive, yes the spatium is a better drive we can agree on that, but its 50% expensive, those extra bucks can de diverted into something more meaningful for the build, as you said for gaming is totally not noticeable (also thinks and feel the same). but as you are a user of gen3 and 4 drives then ill say no more, we can go forever on that.
vivid copper
Huh alot of people go to mATX to save space....by that logic people go to iTX to save money which isn't the case.....as someone who has 2 mATX builds with high end hardware it puts me at a disadvantage...i barely can get a capture card in my streaming rig and i can't put anything in my other because of the 3080ti FTW vs the XC3s size. So as i want to expand this system before my next build i have to case swap into a full ATX to accommodate the hardware changes i want to make.....
empty pollen
itx use another logic, you cant compare that one with matx and atx
itx is usually more expensive but you pay for the space reduction on those
you buy matx to save money at the expense of expandability, not to save space
like you said
becasue most cases these days are full atx or itx, and the atx are obviously compatible with matx
vivid copper
smaller is smaller.....it's just if you're going to go mATX just go with a mATX case as generally the case is gonna be cheaper as well...but I always laugh when i see somebody with like a Corsair 5000D which is pretty big and then they have a little mATX board in there....like why it looks crazy....
empty pollen
well i don't think we can find common ground here. both of us have different points of view about maximizing a budget so better to leave it at that, i respect your opinion and your approach, i just cant share it sadly. Still was a refreshing chat 🙂
empty pollen
seems the same
mighty crow
Are you sure
empty pollen
gimme a second im looking for that on pcpp
mighty crow
Alright
mighty crow
Thanks
night cloud
i have some ideas on PC parts, but might need some help deciding whether or not this is good or not necessary. Ill be purchasing most if not all from microcenter
GPU: MSI RTX 3060
CPU: i7 Core 12th Generation (i7-12700K)
Dual Stick RAM: DDR5 32 GB
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A Motherboard
Case: Lian Li Lancool 205 Case
Storage: 980 PRO & 870 QVO
Cooler: Lian Li Galahad
Power Supply: 750 Watt PowerSpec
empty pollen
use https://pcpartpicker.com/ to have a rough idea of your pc 🙂
vivid copper
i have some ideas on PC parts, but might need some help deciding whether or not ...
sounds good, but i'd probably ditch the qvo and just get another nvme or just get a bigger nvme as SSDs/NVMEs are pretty much the same price right now...and QLC memory sucks as the shelf life is worse than TLC mem that's why it is cheap. Also if you're only going with a 3060, might be smarter to get a 12600K or even a 12400F. Unless you have another use case for other than gaming for an 8 core CPU. Be careful what DDR5 you get if you go that route. DDR4 is a safer (and cheaper overall bet) especially if you're just gaming.
mossy venture
i have some ideas on PC parts, but might need some help deciding whether or not ...
budget, country, use case, and do you want a pre built or custom built
hard badge
Nvidia shield Portable lol. Running Morrowind natively with OpenMW.
I need to dust it. I've had this handheld since 2014. It's ollddd
Not a build but it's cool and it's Nvidia so it practically counts
night cloud
budget, country, use case, and do you want a pre built or custom built
custom, within 2000, USA
night cloud
sounds good, but i'd probably ditch the qvo and just get another nvme or just ge...
oh okay thanks
mossy venture
custom, within 2000, USA
should not be looking at a 3060 with a 2k budget
do you care abotu cpu ocing?
stoic island
custom, within 2000, USA
What are you trying to do with it? Do you also need monitor keeb mouse headphones?
mossy venture
if you need monitor included, can drop ssd to 1tb s70 or 2tb mp33 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DZ9zC6
@night cloud
broken lake
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xrLN2m
Thanks
night cloud
What are you trying to do with it? Do you also need monitor keeb mouse headphon...
only other thing atm i need is a monitor, but even then i have an older one
night cloud
What are you trying to do with it? Do you also need monitor keeb mouse headphon...
game, possibly stream, and schoolwork
night cloud
should not be looking at a 3060 with a 2k budget
wym
obsidian wigeon
budget of that caliber easily gets you something like 12900k and 3090ti lol
or what bacca did
i was just over exaggerating, his list is more reasonable
mossy venture
wym
You can do a full 12700f 3080 12gb build for $1750
3060 belongs in sub $850 builds, though a 6650xt would be a much better buy at the price 3060 is normally found
obsidian wigeon
^
night cloud
oh okay
night cloud
that'd be good thanks
mossy venture
if you need monitor included, can drop ssd to 1tb s70 or 2tb mp33 https://pcpart...
.
empty pollen
12400f-b660m
mossy venture
Or 5600 and b550 pro vdh wifi
little osprey
12400f-b660m
Why not 12400F?
empty pollen
yeah my bad, i was looking 250 budget
little osprey
Or 5600 and b550 pro vdh wifi
Mmm... debateable, Im still a lil upset with amd rn when I tried 5600 with b450
mossy venture
?
empty pollen
little osprey
Well my board messed up trying to remove cpu before putting in a 5600
I thought was cpu
So I sent back
little osprey
The cpu socket yes
mossy venture
Ah
obsidian wigeon
oof
mossy venture
How is that an amd issue?
obsidian wigeon
So you didn't pull it out correctly or what
little osprey
Because AM4
obsidian wigeon
Did it just come out with the heatsink?
mossy venture
Thats.... not how that works
obsidian wigeon
If so you were supposed to let cpu run warm first to make paste goopy
Then you have to twist the cooler and pull up
little osprey
So you didn't pull it out correctly or what
I tried taking it out after it crashed to replace thermal paste so I tried taking it out and it plopped off
little osprey
And then the cpu socket was damaged
I assumed new cpu would work
So I got 5600 and nope
obsidian wigeon
You also gotta twist the cooler after unscrewing it
To make sure paste gets broken off and not taking cpu up
empty pollen
socket included 😛
obsidian wigeon
Do it gently tho, don't wanna do it so hard lol
Just as soon as it begins to easily turn
That's when you can then pull up
little osprey
Thats.... not how that works
Does the board you listed have the bios update button?
obsidian wigeon
mossy venture
It might but not needed, will come with right bios
obsidian wigeon
this is the official guide from amd
empty pollen
Do it gently tho, don't wanna do it so hard lol
obsidian wigeon
on how to remove cooler on pga socket cpu
obsidian wigeon
https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-she-said-what-she-said-dirty-joke-joke-laugh-g...
oh get outta here
empty pollen
little osprey
It might but not needed, will come with right bios
For certain?
empty pollen
sees myself out
mossy venture
You'd have to get an 8 month old stock
empty pollen
x570 are older than b550s
empty pollen
that's why their bios are pretty up to date
obsidian wigeon
whichever cheapest
obsidian wigeon
but if you really want atx it's really not a lot more
obsidian wigeon
it's up to your preference, but imo matx
little osprey
But kinda wanna know what atx like
empty pollen
still 12th gen is a tad better if you are buying both cpu and mobo combo
obsidian wigeon
and no pga shenanigans to worry about
little osprey
5600 or 5600x?
little osprey
still 12th gen is a tad better if you are buying both cpu and mobo combo
Wym?
empty pollen
yeah dont mind me, they are almost the same performance and the am4 is cheaper
little osprey
5600 saves me 30$ish on budget but 5600x does 10ish$ so ig 5600 would be better
strong raft
Yea they're only 200Mhz apart really.
toxic wraith
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VZw2Bj how to improve and what operating systemn should i get
empty pollen
budget and country?
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VZw2Bj how to improve and what operating systemn s...
^
toxic wraith
budget and country?
USA and I don’t wanna go much higher than what it’s already at
still roostBOT
Pheeny#3166 has been warned
toxic wraith
I just want good value
mossy venture
I just want good value
You fine with amd gpus?
gritty ferry
mossy venture
empty pollen
man gotta love these build challenges
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k6Dgqm
You've a $250 1080p monitor in there
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cGPBxs
@toxic wraith if you don't want an amd gpu, I would do this
cyan ravine
why not a 5600/12400 and up the ram and drive?
Cos I'm at work and tryna be quick
Back I go
empty pollen
hahahaha
ill return to my coffin instead, time to sleep some more... want to be young forever 🧛
cy later buds 
empty pollen
toxic wraith
I’m insanely sleep deprived so I sleep easily
toxic wraith
Does the b550m work for the 5600 or 5800x
mossy venture
Only way I can is with weed, but can't take it often
Yes, but I wouldn't pair a 5800x with a 3060 for gaming
mossy venture
Cpu is overkill
mossy venture
The 5600 is fine to pair with even a 3090 for gaming
So I'd spend less on the cpu to get a better gpu
toxic wraith
The only reason why I did that exact thing I did
Cuz this offer on new egg is basically a free monitor
With the 3060
mossy venture
Ah, 3060 and g24f?
still roostBOT
Pheeny#3166 has been warned
mossy venture
Np
toxic wraith
But if I do that will it be compatible
toxic wraith
Ok so my current build but with the 5600 and 3070
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cGPBxs
This one?
toxic wraith
I got my case a long time ago
mossy venture
Ah
toxic wraith
Not a long time
mossy venture
P400a still good
toxic wraith
But like
mossy venture
I'd do the rest of my list though, psu and ssd are better, heatsink a bit cheaper for same quality
cyan ravine
mossy venture
You're fine
mossy venture
With that bundle, it's fine
strong raft
Pro tip, you can edit msgs. This isn't snapchap or tik tok 
toxic wraith
What’s the difference between 5600 and 5600x
strong raft
200Mhz, this guy called Google told me. They're basically the same in reality.
cyan ravine
A letter in the name
stuck juniper
What happened to evga
mossy venture
This is good?
Looks it
mossy venture
What happened to evga
Theyre no longer making gpu aibs
olive cypress
Gone forever...
cyan ravine
Probably not forever
little socket
@toxic wraith
If your spending that much you might save just a bit longer and get an x570 motherboard because its less likely to need a bios update but if your not worried about it then make sure the case dimensions fit your card and it "should" be fine
toxic wraith
<@761777212725788711>
If your spending that much you might save just a bit long...
How do I check that
Sorry I’m a bit new to this
I just have a basic understanding
mossy venture
<@761777212725788711>
If your spending that much you might save just a bit long...
That's not how that works
little socket
Look up the case you want the interior dimensions and look up the card you want for the same add thickness of motherboard and from there its a "dose this fit" numbers game
mossy venture
X570s are both worse than b550s and older
stoic island
<@761777212725788711>
If your spending that much you might save just a bit long...
It's actually theoretically more likely on x570
Since x570 as a chipset came earlier, there's a higher chance you get earlier stock
mossy venture
Not to mention pcpartpicker checks for compatibility
Only two reasons to buy an x570 are if you're using 3+ nvme drives or need raid
stoic island
anyways don't need to care about drive bays if you're just using a m.2 drive
mossy venture
Mhm
cyan ravine
B550 is the stonks
little socket
Wait i thought it was the newer... sorry i forgot when thing come out sometimes
cyan ravine
Just like b650e is looking to be the good sku for am5
mossy venture
No worries, I'd just make sure before giving advice to someone next time
cyan ravine
X570S is 2021 but no one buys that
Pointless buy as someone who owns one
B550 does everything the layman person needs and often performs as the better chipset
tacit hollow
stupid question but whats a good psu for a 3090ti
cyan ravine
A local power station
little socket
Big...lol
cyan ravine
What's your other specs?
mossy venture
Any evga p_ 1000+, phanteks amp 1000 are normally the ok prices ones
Rm 1000 and g6 sometimes
little socket
No stupid questions... sometimes stupid answers
mossy venture
Fair enough, p2 1200 I think is cheap rn
tacit hollow
11th gen i9
4x8 corsair vengence pros
3 980 pros for storage
mossy venture
That's a lot of 980 pros
tacit hollow
its only 4 tb
stoic island
b stock?
mossy venture
What country are you in?
tacit hollow
US
stoic island
ah yea b stock p2 1200
cyan ravine
You could probably do an 850W that's tier a with that cpu+gpu
tacit hollow
i saw that mining is dead now and the prices are just 👀 to me now
mossy venture
I'm on mobile, how's the g7 mr?
cyan ravine
G7 great
stoic island
will need confirmation but so far A tier material
cyan ravine
Loud but smol and tier a
mossy venture
stoic island
ocp and opp are set as high as g3 but this time it has otp
tacit hollow
i was looking at a corsair rm1000x but im just so unsure around this stuff
stoic island
everything else looks fine for the g7
stoic island
older stock is old but g2 good
mossy venture
Def complete overkill though https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8LMFf7/evga-power-supply-120g21300xr
tacit hollow
future proof maybe
tacit hollow
idk 40 series doesnt hit it for me i think those are too large for my case
mossy venture
idk 40 series doesnt hit it for me i think those are too large for my case
A 4070 will be smaller than a 3090
stoic island
idk 40 series doesnt hit it for me i think those are too large for my case
size doesn't keep going up
mossy venture
Well, model to model comparisons anyways
stoic island
typically sizes stay similar
tacit hollow
oh
mossy venture
I really wouldn't buy a 3090 rn
stoic island
but anyways
mossy venture
4090 is announced in 3 days
tacit hollow
oh guess ill wait
i shouldnt even be upgrading in the first place
70ti is fine
any ideas on what the 4090 watt would be
i dont think my 850 could take it
little socket
All you talking about 30 and 40 series and ti's... im sitting here rocking a 1660 bace model
tacit hollow
All you talking about 30 and 40 series and ti's... im sitting here rocking a 166...
my first gpu was a 1660s
stoic island
tbh we will have to see for 40 series
tacit hollow
i keep it in a box i love that thing
stoic island
we still don't know for sure how they'll work with new ATX standard
tacit hollow
carried me for a while
little socket
It gets the job done still and beats the hell out of the entire system i was "allowed" to use before...
I was using an hp system that had an i3 4th gen and integrated graphics my games "ran" at 1 to 7 fps on low graphics
tacit hollow
my old pc was a hand me down that i handed back to my parents
little socket
Lol
tacit hollow
intel 4k i5
8gb ram
4000 hd graphics
1tb storage though
windows 8
shudder
it wasnt that bad actually i miss windows 8 sometimes
little socket
I was tanking in world of warcraft at less than 1 fps
I refuse to "upgrade" (gross) to windows 11
Also i cant in good conscience recomend cyberpower clx line ive had no end of trouble with all the simple mistakes everywhere...
fossil cedar
It'll be the same perf wise unless you're on a 12600k or above
frigid night
Yeah win11 is bae
jagged ember
no issues with win 11
analog hearth
I have issues with Win11’s performance but I actually just have to update my BIOS (running with AMD)
analog hearth
bruh just send the link
analog hearth
what kind of 120GB SSD is worth $89 lol (I know that’s not the question but it’s making me scratch my head lmao)
obsidian wigeon
same
it has high end mobo but eh
6700k is o l d
it should be worth $300 tops, and that's with gpu
if no gpu, that would be bumped lower
little osprey
thank you
im just gonna build another myself
i have built before but then i sold, tryna get back into it
weary galleon
no issues with win 11
I've had one persistent issue with win11 that hasn't gone away over the course of multiple updates
fossil cedar
Maybe even 500 with gpu tbh actually
fossil cedar
I've had one persistent issue with win11 that hasn't gone away over the course o...
What's that?
weary galleon
When I mouse over the search button on the taskbar, this little mini-menu with 3 of my recent applications pops up and often prevents me from actually clicking the search button
fossil cedar
Oof
weary galleon
It used to also leave a "ghost" outline that would appear over any application but I think that's been fixed cause I haven't seen it in a while
little osprey
Hey anyone know a possible reason/fix for a friends pc that completely shuts off every time we get a win in warzone? He’s checked his stats, temps aren’t high etc. etc.
little osprey
Yes, it only ever happens whenever we win a game
weary galleon
I honestly have no clue but that's kinda funny
little osprey
We have been playing for about 1.5 hours, of the 10 or so games we have played we’ve won 5, and each time his pc completely shut off as soon we the “win” banner 😂😂
weary galleon
If the game was crashing that would be easier to diagnose but the whole PC shutting of is really odd
weary galleon
My only guess would be a ram issue cause I know from experience that warzone is a ram hog
mossy venture
More so sounds like psu
little osprey
If the game was crashing that would be easier to diagnose but the whole PC shutt...
I know it’s super strange, he keeps checking bios, has updated drivers etc etc nothing is out of place
little osprey
Could it be he needs to update windows?
mossy venture
Not likely
If its not psu issue, I would run command prompt as administrator and run an sfc/scannow and a chkdsk, as well as scan game files in the battle net app
little osprey
mossy venture
It's the psu
1000%
That psu is known for failure and is prone to quite literally catching fire
little osprey
But why would only winning cause the shutdown? Shouldn’t it be happening more frequently if it’s a psu issue?
He just said this: Tell them I get Event 41 task 63 codes in event viewer
weary galleon
Winning might be taking off a bunch of cpu load and making the gpu spike?
Whereas when you die you either are spectating and still using cpu or get sent back to lobby
mossy venture
Even if this specific issue isn't the power supply, I would highly recommend replacing it. It is known for catching fire
I'd get either this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cm92FT/evga-supernova-g7-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g7-0750-x1
Or this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CtZ9TW/evga-supernova-g7-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g7-0650-x1
weary galleon
@little osprey have him limit his fps to 60 and see if it happens
mossy venture
Same exact thing ones just lower wattage
weary galleon
He can play most of the game at higher fps but turn on the limiter at the end
little osprey
I think he’s going to join the discord and explain the problem himself lol😂
weary galleon
Or if he doesn't have it limited at all try limiting to 144
crimson crest
Hey guys, it's my build he's talking about
This issue started happening frequently in the last week
The system shutdown literally only happens when we win a game. As soon as the game is over, it shuts off.
runic flare
PC monitors randomly black screen and say "no signal" with PC still running and all peripherals working, I can still hear sound through headphones and interact with keyboard. The moment it happens there is also a disconnecting sound that comes thro. Sometimes flash black then show a frozen picture and I can't do anything. When either happens, I have to force restart by holding power button. Gpu isn't the problem. Can someone help please?
crimson crest
My only guess would be a ram issue cause I know from experience that warzone is ...
My original thought was ram because WZ took up all of the ram I had before. I just upgraded to 32 gig ram when this all started
mossy venture
My original thought was ram because WZ took up all of the ram I had before. I ju...
Ram limit it would not cause shutdown
If its a full on shutdown, not a blue screen, it is almost 100% sure the psu
Even if it isn't the root if this issue, I would highly recommend you replace it
As it is prone to catching fire. And you do not want the rest of your system connected to a fire hazard
runic flare
PC monitors randomly black screen and say "no signal" with PC still running and ...
Someone help 🙏
mossy venture
PC monitors randomly black screen and say "no signal" with PC still running and ...
Update gpu drivers
Reseat ram
Run an sfc/scannow
runic flare
Update gpu drivers
Have tested many versions
runic flare
Run an sfc/scannow
On custom windows
runic flare
Reseat ram
Take out and put back in or switch positions?
fringe iris
Is this good?
fringe iris
How is the M6000?
fringe iris
Alright thanks just wanted to know
empty pollen
an rtx m6000? damn
obsidian wigeon
lol
crimson crest
Or if he doesn't have it limited at all try limiting to 144
tried this and it worked after one win. The next game I had another crash
weary galleon
yeah idk. Like Bacca said, there's a decent change the PSU isnt working correctly
crimson crest
yeah idk. Like Bacca said, there's a decent change the PSU isnt working correctl...
Getting a new one coming
empty pollen
with that thin heatsink i suspect a 3070
icy crater
Apparently the cpu is a r5 3600.
olive cypress
3070 MSI ventus 2x could be this one
It's not easy to tell bit MSI offers only 2 main models for 2 fan GPUs
(To me it looks like dual fan)
icy crater
Do you know the psu?
olive cypress
Nope
stoic island
looks like a gq 1000w
olive cypress
^ Yep, just checked
stoic island
icy crater
Ohh shoot is that A tier?
icy crater
He said he wants 225$ for psu motherboard, cpu (r5 3600)
Oh and 257 ssd?
Idk if I should take him up on that.
olive cypress
MSI RTX 3070 gaming X trio probably, but to mee it looks a bit too short to b 3fans
olive cypress
MSI RTX 3070 gaming X trio probably, but to mee it looks a bit too short to b 3f...
It's probably this one because of these reasons:
Vertical heatsink metal fins.
Similar backplate
Same side MSI logo (RGB turned off)
Same side RGB strip (the white one)
Same 2 8pin connector
- it's a pretty tall card, just like the gaming X trio
stoic island
lol
olive cypress
Sadly...
It's also not a really bad card
But just wanted to let you know the model
toxic wraith
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n6Tkzf Is this ok
fossil cedar
Ehhh
toxic wraith
what can i do better
fossil cedar
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n6Tkzf Is this ok
This is like 40$ more but way better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3tVvNc
empty pollen
👀
runic flare
PC monitors randomly black screen and say "no signal" with PC still running and ...
Someone help
forest briar
Update your drivers, ddu them if necessary and do a fresh install, maybe bad HDMI/Display port
I think someone already gave you these suggestions earlier
mossy venture
Mhm
frigid night
Someone help
Please goes a long way. ;)
potent portal
Sounds like the motherboard, update bios maybe
dim forge
Guys, I'm building my pc this month, so idk what's best
- get a 12400 and use intel graphics until I can save enough to buy a 6600 next month
or
- get a 12400f but with a 1650
willow quest
anyone know how to increase disk reading speed?
cyan ravine
1. get a 12400 and use intel graphics until I can save enough to buy a 6600 next...
This
6600 is literally nearly 3x faster than a 1650, don't get a 1650 in 2022
It'll be worth waiting for
mossy venture
1. get a 12400 and use intel graphics until I can save enough to buy a 6600 next...
6600
toxic wraith
6600
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27DRC6 so this is good? tysm for ur help btw
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27DRC6 so this is good? tysm for ur help btw
Not really, can do much better
Pato made you a list
mossy venture
This is like 40$ more but way better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3tVvNc
Right here
toxic wraith
is the rx 6800 xt that good
fossil cedar
is the rx 6800 xt that good
Equivalent to a 3080
toxic wraith
o
toxic wraith
can i still use the p400a
potent portal
Sure
fossil cedar
can i still use the p400a
Sure but it's a bad price, get the g360a instead it comes with an extra fan and offers radiator mounting on top
toxic wraith
Sure but it's a bad price, get the g360a instead it comes with an extra fan and ...
i ordered it a long time ago sooo thats why im asking :😅
i got it for like 80
fossil cedar
Ahh yeah that's fine then
toxic wraith
ok ty ty
fossil cedar
Might want to grab an extra arctic p12 or something but all good apart from that
empty pollen
not too late to start learning, tech world is pretty amazing and with the magic of the internet is even easier
potent portal
Modern AMD stuff is not much different than Nvidia, just install drivers and go. Gone are the days of the 5700XT and having to manually tweak every game.
toxic wraith
yeah technology is starting to take over tbh
empty pollen
oh those days of the driver issues every day xD
toxic wraith
6800 xt is around the same performance as a 3080 for the price of a 3070 is nice
fossil cedar
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c6ggqm
Would get the 27" 1440p gigabyte g27q for not much more very worth it
toxic wraith
i might hold back on a monitor for now since i already have two
fossil cedar
Oh grand
potent portal
Sometimes you need to update the bios version so the motherboard can support a certain CPU, and the 5600 is pretty recent so it might be required
empty pollen
yo guys, can you recommend me some good pcie extensions for vertical gpu mounting? so i can start my research from there, thx in advance 😄
potent portal
3.0 or 4.0?
empty pollen
4.0
i can use it as a reference to compare it with others and look for the right one for me 🙂
weary galleon
felix saw "vertical" and immediately started shilling
empty pollen
hahahaha still at work on saturday?
cyan ravine
Just woke up
cyan ravine
Ac into human when
analog pulsar
Omg
analog pulsar
Nah blood has to be 97F or 98F
potent portal
Yes and no
cyan ravine
subzero human overclocking when
empty pollen
well those linkup pcie riser seems nice, too bad they dont pack the whole frame D:
potent portal
The antennas?
analog pulsar
Yea
cyan ravine
Well if you are looking at risers yes I wouldn't recommend any others cos you can literally fold them
empty pollen
I thought you meant pcie power cables
the thing to put a gpu on vertical position
cyan ravine
A bracket?
empty pollen
not sure how its called
potent portal
It works fine without, just not as good transmit signal integrity
cyan ravine
lol a bracket
empty pollen
cyan ravine
Depends on the case
analog pulsar
It works fine without, just not as good transmit signal integrity
Oh
empty pollen
5000x, what can you get me for that one? 😛
cyan ravine
do you have a case with pcie slots fully open or with strips of metal between?
empty pollen
ehhh lemme see
empty pollen
dont mind the dust nor the pci card there, nor the 750ti 😄 those will go away once the new build is done
empty pollen
damn bro, you outdid yourself, thx buddy. ill take that as reference when the time comes
if, the time comes
empty pollen
ill have to look at the size constraints to see if its viable on the case
when i decided for the gpu
analog pulsar
@potent portal is this normal ? Gpu wattage jumps around
Just bc my 3000 series never did this
cyan ravine
have to be careful though, if you have anything in the bottom slot of your mobo it often conflicts with vertical
empty pollen
<@396513761550270464> is this normal ? Gpu wattage jumps around
seems normal
analog pulsar
seems normal
Well when I would run furmark on 3000 series they would use the max TPG and not go up and down like this hard
empty pollen
have to be careful though, if you have anything in the bottom slot of your mobo ...
ik, that card that you see is a nvme pci adapter card, it will go away
analog pulsar
I'm just making sure it's normal
empty pollen
holding a wd550
analog pulsar
"Anomaly detected"
analog pulsar
gpu usually dance with the power usage
Yea ik but this is furmark
It's supposed to be power hungry
jagged ember
I'll run furmark on my 3080 soon and see
analog pulsar
I'll run furmark on my 3080 soon and see
Yea when I ran it in my 3090, 3080, 3070, 3060 it was all max wattage and never went up or down
@visual notch I just realized I had all the 3000 series cards 
analog pulsar
How were you never happy <:KekW:740566363613167678>
I'm depressed
cyan ravine
cyan ravine
ya
I could tilt mine rn
the pads on the feet are a bit pepega tho but otherwise I like it
the other two would be more sturdy
empty pollen
yeah the last 2 links seems like the same product but the first one is cheaper o.O
why?
cant see the difference
cyan ravine
first two links are for ones that go straight into the pcie slots
vertical only
the last one is an all angle tilt
last one sits independently of the pcie slots
cyan ravine
for reference
#build-pics message
empty pollen
if the 4080 ends below 1k in price then i will have some leftover money for things like this one 🙂
and fancy extension cables
jagged ember
here's to hoping it is
empty pollen
potent portal
It's entirely possible, since the MCM configuration means it's cheaper to produce the GPU itself
potent portal
Derp I knew that, that's what I get for multitasking
potent portal
But yeah 7800XT is looking nice
And should have better stock since no market manipulation from the likes of Jensen
potent portal
Algae produces more oxygen per pound than trees
empty pollen
the more you know
i have a cheap but functional build and an absurd but flashy rgb one ready, and i can fit the pci vertical mount on both of them yay 
i just need the effin raptor lake already
analog pulsar
we have only one planet
Let it die let it die let it die
icy crater
How often do you need to clean a water loop? I'm curious I kinda wanna build a custom hard tubing build in the future but worried it will be a huge chore to maintenance.
obsidian wigeon
It's usually a few weeks I think
mossy venture
It's usually a few weeks I think
What about aios?
mossy venture
Ok cool because I really don't feel like doing that
mossy venture
Just regular cleaning of the rad
As in canned air and such, right?
mossy venture
Kk cool
Still thinking about just getting an ak620 and not bothering with the aio, maybe just sell the clc 280 I bought. Not planing to cpu oc anyways
obsidian wigeon
AIOs are not meant to be serviced
Or need to
It's either it works or it doesn't
mossy venture
Ye
dim forge
Not good for a 12400
may I know why
mossy venture
Vrms are lackluster
earnest olive
if you don't see heatsinks on it, it's generally not a good board
empty pollen
Still thinking about just getting an ak620 and not bothering with the aio, maybe...
welcome to the dark side 👍
dim forge
if you don't see heatsinks on it, it's generally not a good board
any cheap boards for a 12400?
empty pollen
msi pro b660m-a
earnest olive
if all you do is game, you don't need a good board
12400 will run great on random h610 boards as long as your use case isn't like, uncapped power limits 24/7 rendering
obsidian wigeon
^
earnest olive
you don't want to go above ddr4-3200 with a non-K cpu anyways, so h610 isn't a meaningful limitation as long as the board has enough i/o for you
empty pollen
but but... what about xmp? D:
earnest olive
h610 does support xmp
obsidian wigeon
it still has xmp
empty pollen
😮
obsidian wigeon
just limited to 3200
earnest olive
you can run 3200c16 on h610 no problem
earnest olive
as long as it has enough i/o for you
obsidian wigeon
yep
obsidian wigeon
like sips said
empty pollen
this h610 board has more usb ports than a lot of z690s
asrock wants to have a talk with you
dim forge
as long as it has enough i/o for you
what's io
earnest olive
it dosn't even have any m.2 slots
earnest olive
asrock wants to have a talk with you
this is asrock
empty pollen
holy mother of...
earnest olive
even if I might want to do some casual streaming
do you have an nvidia gpu planned?
mossy venture
Nah, 6600. They're shipping out of the country from the us
It's already over budget
dim forge
do you have an nvidia gpu planned?
6600
mossy venture
Though I think they're getting a 12400 non f for a month or so, so they can then use qsv for streaming
earnest olive
6600
hmm I'm not sure how amd encoder is nowadays
might want to invest in a better board in case you end up using cpu encode
i will say that if you are planning to use the stock cooler, the downdraft airflow helps the bad boards a decent amount
by cooling their vrms
empty pollen
this is a weird question
where is the cmos battery on that board?
im looking at the the pictures and i cant see it
nvm found it
odd place to have the battery tho
dim forge
if you don't see heatsinks on it, it's generally not a good board
do b660 boards have heatsink?
worn wave
Most B660 motherboards have a heatsink on the VRMs.
There may be a couple very low end boards that do not.
earnest olive
b660 is just a chipset and doesn't indicate much about the board
generally higher end chipsets are correlated with higher quality
empty pollen
yeah most b660s mobos have heatsinks
only the very low end ones dont have heatsinks
empty pollen
guess the most expensive one is the proart
or the tomahawk
but at that price you should go z690 anyway
earnest olive
these are vrm heatsinks
these are vrms without heatsinks
spot the difference
runic flare
PC monitors randomly black screen and say "no signal" with PC still running and all peripherals working, I can still hear sound through headphones and interact with keyboard. The moment it happens there is also a disconnecting sound that comes thro. Sometimes flash black then show a frozen picture and I can't do anything. When either happens, I have to force restart by holding power button. Gpu isn't the problem. Can someone help please?
dim forge
so, that black chunk is the heatsink?
empty pollen
so, that black chunk is the heatsink?
yes
dim forge
ok so if I got it right = big chunks alongside the cpu socket are heatsinks
earnest olive
yes
dim forge
tyvm
earnest olive
PC monitors randomly black screen and say "no signal" with PC still running and ...
how do you know gpu is not the problem? that sounds like a gpu driver crash to me
earnest olive
ok so if I got it right = big chunks alongside the cpu socket are heatsinks
also, be careful - although you can assume a board with no heatsinks is not good, you cannot assume a board with heatsinks is good
runic flare
how do you know gpu is not the problem? that sounds like a gpu driver crash to m...
I've sent it back to where I purchased it to get it checked and they reported that nothing is wrong
earnest olive
okay
so they tested it on their setup
have you tried reinstalling the gpu drivers on your end?
runic flare
have you tried reinstalling the gpu drivers on your end?
Yes and factory reset too
earnest olive
full specs?