building-and-recc-chat

[high yew]

do it?

oh i’ll do it

[stoic island]

Over the 3070 yes

[high yew]

kk sweet i’ll go for that

hopefully it stays that price for the next couple weeks. gotta return my 6800xt still

[obsidian wigeon]

the x in gddr6x is xtra hot

kek

[icy crater]

Wow that's so expensive still.

And here I thought prices has been dropping.

[high yew]

canada 😌

[icy crater]

😔

[little osprey]

Hey guys I may need some help

I'm trying to test audio on my pc and have no sounds. I checked and I do have an HD audio driver installed

It does show this message when I open sound settings

[potent portal]

How exactly are you connected to speakers?

[little osprey]

I...knew I forgot to get something...lmao. I'm not used to having speakers, having been a laptop peasant for so long

OK new question, a good affordable brand for speakers 😭

[potent portal]

If your monitor has speakers built in you want to use the hdmi audio for that

[little osprey]

Hmmm I'm not sure if it does or not

I'll look into it

It did obviously use an HDMI and that is plugged in, but idk if it has speakers or not.

[barren void]

What is 3×4+2×2

Lol

[cyan ravine]

16

Why u askin

[barren void]

Because of the quiz for tickets to win a PC

[little osprey]

16

Pemdas

[empty pollen]

lol

[barren void]

I had school today I didn’t want to do it

[little osprey]

Lol you're good

I just discovered my monitor didn't have audio so don't even stress

[barren void]

Lol

[cyan ravine]

If you win send me 10% of every pc part

Specifically 10%, if I get 12% I stg

[barren void]

I’m too poor lol

That’s why I join the raffle

[empty pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/stopbeingpoor-poor-broke-gif-21552270

[frigid night]

I second this.

[fossil cedar]

I'm too poor so i gamble

https://tenor.com/view/confused-unga-bunga-loading-uga-gif-23786525

[barren void]

Lol

😭😭😭

[empty pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/bankrupt-wheel-of-fortune-broke-no-money-poor-gif-16292019

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-rubinoff-sportsnet-tim-and-friends-gambling-gambling-addiction-gif-25209205

[high yew]

can just get logitech speakers for now. edifier makes good ones and they’re like a hundred bucks ish if you can afford it

[rugged wharf]

My gpu is a Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 TI and my cpu is a AMD Ryzen 5 5600 I am thinking of having 2 ram sticks but 4 would be cool for future upgrades. I would like to be able to have a m.2 slot which can fit a Samsung 970 EVO plus.

before i bury myself in google id like to ask if someone has a recommendation i am thinking of getting a mATX size mobo with wifi

[mossy venture]

2 is better for uphradability

I would get the b550 pro vdh wifi

Ram, 32gb 3200c16 silicon power would be fine, or if you want rgb there's a 32gb teamgroup kit with rgb

Ssd, p31 or s70 imo

Similar price to 970 Evo plus while both are betger

[rugged wharf]

i was thinking 16gb ram for this system

using 2 out of 4 slots

and if i notice that i need more ram id get more basically

i am usually good at keeping my ram usage low

[fossil cedar]

You don't already have a motherboard? Also ram is pretty cheap nowadays I would just get 2x16gb ram instead

[fossil cedar]

Adding ram is iffy tbh

[rugged wharf]

Oh your mistaken me i have not gotten the other stuff yet

i might have worded the thing a bit weird

[fossil cedar]

You haven't bought anything yet?

[rugged wharf]

Due to the ram would be different ages right?

[rugged wharf]

No but they are in stock and could be at my door in a week or two

[empty pollen]

good

[fossil cedar]

Different ram dies

[rugged wharf]

Ah

[empty pollen]

time to set up a build pato 😛

[rugged wharf]

whats that?

[fossil cedar]

@rugged wharf whats your budget?

And have you bought anything

[rugged wharf]

i currently am here sitting with no computer parts other than a mouse and headphones

[empty pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-okay-alright-gif-9319693

[rugged wharf]

I have this very old thinkpad that is basically dying i wanna get something before it explodes

[empty pollen]

help pato with your budget, so he can tailor you the best bang for your buck

glad you didnt have anything yet

[rugged wharf]

I am quite flexible with my budget around 1700 Euros. I live in finland is a good thing to add

[jagged ember]

Nice place to live

[rugged wharf]

I can't send a screenshot of my spreadsheet

[jagged ember]

But yeah Pato has you covered

[rugged wharf]

is there a way to let me send something?

[jagged ember]

You can dm someone

And have ‘em send it here

[rugged wharf]

do you work?

[jagged ember]

I think mine are open

[empty pollen]

also... you care about wifi and/or rgb?

[fossil cedar]

You can't send links and pics til your name turns green

[rugged wharf]

i understand the caution

@jagged ember i sent a friend request

you can unadd me after this is if bothers you.

[jagged ember]

Try sending a dm directly

[rugged wharf]

did not work

[jagged ember]

I wanna know if it works

Oh wtf

Mine are turned on tho

Send it now anyway

[rugged wharf]

The yellow means i am unsure
the green means i am quite sure
and the uncolored i have not even really started looking at yet

[jagged ember]

Relayed

[fossil cedar]

@rugged wharf what sites can you get parts in finland?

[rugged wharf]

https://www.verkkokauppa.com/

[fossil cedar]

all I can see on pc part picker is Jimms but i am sure theres more lol

[rugged wharf]

Jimms is good too

but i prefer verkkokauppa cause i can buy stuff in store

plus in store stuff would be cheaper due to no shipping needed right?

[empty pollen]

depends on the store, some stores have free shipping

[rugged wharf]

that is indeed true

[empty pollen]

every time pato make a list feels like magic in the making

https://tenor.com/view/heart-love-dog-gif-14582354

[rugged wharf]

ayo? yall making him sound like a mythical creature

them*

[fossil cedar]

lol

[cursive lantern]

Anybody here ever fix laptop keyboards?

[obsidian wigeon]

just replace the whole thing

it's not worth fixing the keeb

[cursive lantern]

Really? I just need 1 stabilizer,

[obsidian wigeon]

those little parts are pretty hard to find

[cursive lantern]

Ohhh

[rugged wharf]

ill brb gotta do some irl stuff

[cursive lantern]

What about a screen

[rugged wharf]

will take a bit of time

[obsidian wigeon]

screens are only to be replaced when they die

[fossil cedar]

yo chrome isnt translating the verkokka site can you send a direct link to the components section of the site?

[cursive lantern]

Even if the liquid is smiling all over the place?

[obsidian wigeon]

but you can easily spot one by looking up the part number

[fossil cedar]

@rugged wharf before you go ^

[cursive lantern]

I have no clue how to do that, is that under the serial number of the laptop?

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

you have to take the panel out

[cursive lantern]

I have no clue how to do that

[obsidian wigeon]

then look at part number behind it

[cursive lantern]

PH fudge

[fossil cedar]

nbm i found all good

[obsidian wigeon]

they're usually 50-60 bucks tho

for a replacement screen

[cursive lantern]

Hmm, I need to look it up then, I never done it before, I really don't want to pay $400, to fix a screen and $200 to fix a keyboard

[obsidian wigeon]

that sounds like a scam to me

what laptop is this?

[cursive lantern]

Regardless they didn't have the parts anaywas

Acer Predator Helios 300

[obsidian wigeon]

hmn

[cursive lantern]

I'm going to take the time to fix it myself rather than pay them that kind of money

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah nah, that's a huge scam for the price they ask

replacing screens aren't too hard

but the keyboard is the hard part

[fossil cedar]

weiirid idk why

[obsidian wigeon]

you have to take everything apart to even get to the keeb

like bottom cover, motherboard

[cursive lantern]

Let me show you what I mean to replace, I get your point thougg, in order to be able to I have to take apart everything since it's all integrated

[obsidian wigeon]

you can probably order a new palmrest and keyboard combo

they go for 30-60 i think

the parts mostly come from china on aliexpress

[cursive lantern]

The stabilizer on the right

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

that's gonna be a huge pain to fix just the stab

[cursive lantern]

You know what I'm talking about right the, plastic piece mis shaped somehow and won't fall back into palce

Place*

To take a apart the screen turn off the laptop and remove it then,..

All right let me look it up and do that

[obsidian wigeon]

you really only have to unscrew a few screws on the bezel

then pry out the bezel cover

[cursive lantern]

I have no clue what the bezel is,

I can't say I have dome thus before.

[obsidian wigeon]

bezel is the part that surrounds the screen

[cursive lantern]

Okay, give me a moment to shutdown and unplug my laptop

[obsidian wigeon]

i suggest you looking for guides tho

i can't help much cause i don't have the laptop

[cursive lantern]

Okay

I saw an acer predator hellos 300 the model is slightly different from mine as far as the keyboard and speaker placements but nothing is where the screen on the laptop is

@obsidian wigeon hey now what

I removed the bezel

Found it

[rugged wharf]

https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/782980/MSI-B550M-PRO-VDH-WIFI-mATX-emolevy-AM4-kannalla AH sorry

here is a link

to a mobo

oh nvm

[cursive lantern]

Can I look up a screen replacement by looking up the laptop model?

[little osprey]

potentially

Some websites will have info on the screen model

[cursive lantern]

It's from Amazon it gave me the same model name as my laptop

[fossil cedar]

id do this https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/vkPHnt

[rugged wharf]

i am not really that sure about intel

but everything else looks fine

also do you know if it would make a lot of sound?

[forest briar]

whats wrong with intel

[rugged wharf]

no i have just had bad experiences with them that's all

[fossil cedar]

12600k is far and a way better than the 5600x

[stoic island]

fans there shouldn't be loud

[cursive lantern]

Question, it says it's 40 pins instead of 30 pins are all lcd screens have a 30pin or 40 pin version?

[cursive lantern]

It's some company in China and I'm scared to buy 😆 🤣

[earnest olive]

you should definitely try to find something that explicitly lists compatibility with your exact laptop model

doubt that those pins are standardized

[cursive lantern]

Okay, I will try then

What prince range should I go for?

Also nice nexxon muskie pic

Mushie

[bold iron]

Guys is this a solid setup? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/squirrelpowered/saved/#view=2J3npg there’s also a motherboard included it’s a b450 motherboard with updated bios it’s free I’m getting it from a friend

[native mauve]

Hey I’m looking to upgrade my pc I recently bought a 3080ti but my power supply doesn’t support does anyone have and recommendations

The card is 3 8pin while the one power supply I currently have is 2 6pin with one of them being +2

[pure summit]

what is the best cpu and gpu combo?

[empty pollen]

depends on what are you planning to do with the pc

[pure summit]

gamung

gaming

[empty pollen]

6 cores is more than enough for gaming, you could use a 12400f or a 5600 as your cpu... and for gpu that depends on the resolution you wanna play: 1080p, 1440p or 4k

no matter the gpu any of those 2 cpus will pair it nicely

[pure summit]

1440p or 1080p

oh ok ty

[empty pollen]

6600 or 3050/3060 are good cards for 1080p, 6600xt/3070/6700xt are good cards for 1440p and 6800xt/3080 are the cards you want for 4k

any of those gpus will pair well with either a 12400f or a 5600

[pure summit]

is a 3060 ti good for 1440p too?

[empty pollen]

it is, just badly priced

better to jump to 3070 instead

or a 6600xt

[pure summit]

ah ok ty

[empty pollen]

amd cards rn hold the best price/performance over nvidia, the only reason to go nvidia over amd is if you need the cuda cores for cad applications, everything else is fairly tied (dlss/fsr/rsr/rt and the coders/encoders)

[pure summit]

tyytyt

[jagged ember]

Not sure about the ray tracing

Nvidia still has way more experience in utilizing their tensor cores for that

[empty pollen]

ray tracing is a gimmick this gen anyway

[jagged ember]

Not that it’s really relevant though

Yeah

RT is pretty gimmicky on most games

[empty pollen]

and fsr/rsr is almost at the same level as dlss at this point in the cycle

[jagged ember]

Mm

I can’t say if fsr is wonky on fh5

But it always overexposes my game

So I can’t see anything under the sunlight lol

But yeah they’re pretty similar

[empty pollen]

yeah it varies from game to game. even dlss is kinda weird on some titles

[jagged ember]

True

Dlss1.0 on control is super weird with the fans in the sewer section

But they’re also now on dlss 2.3

[bold iron]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/squirrelpowered/saved/#view=2J3npg

Guys is this a solid setup? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/squirrelpowered/saved/#view=2J3npg there’s also a motherboard included it’s a b450 motherboard with updated bios it’s free I’m getting it from a friend

[earnest olive]

oh the irony

at launch people were saying never get the 3070 over the 3060ti

[earnest olive]

6950xt struggles to tie with 3070 in most rt games

but again, rt is whatever

even as a 3090 owner I find it difficult to care about rt

[empty pollen]

yeah, 60ti was the best price/performer for 1440p on those dark days

[empty pollen]

its a solid build, you can swap that cooler for an ak400, the case for an mx330 and the memory for a corsair vengeance 3200c16 kit

save like 100 cad in the process

ill do something like these, not entirely sure about the psu tho https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KT7ByK

maybe there is a cheaper and more capable psu for that build

[hybrid gorge]

/imagine prompt cat

[jagged ember]

?

[forest briar]

He’s trying to use midjourney

[potent portal]

That was when it was supposed to be $400, which it still isn't to this day

[earnest olive]

even then, i never understood why people say the performance difference is so small

was the 3060ti better price/performance? usually
was the 3070 a significant performance boost? yes

[bold iron]

Is your change better other than the price than the other build?

[potent lily]

Anyone on that can look at my build before i but it? New to this btw

CPU cooler- Noctua NH-D15

MB- Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite

Cpu- AMD Ryzen 7 5800x

Graphic Card- EVGA Geforce $1150
RTX 3070 TI Ultra Gaming

Memory- silicon Power 32GB

Storage- Silicon Power A60 1TB

Powerbox- EVGA SuperNOVA
G6 750w

Mouse- Glorious Model O

Monitor- Dell S2721DGF 27”
165hz 1ms 1440res (2560x1440) IPS

Keyboard- k70 RGB PRO

Headset- Corsair HS80

Wifi/Router-????

[leaden mauve]

giant wall of text

[stoic island]

pcpartpicker is a lot nicer to look at

and straight away, corsair peripherals aren't great

D15 isn't usually the best option nowadays

bruh d15 isn't that bad

:P

I also own one

3800x

I ran 3800x at 1.45v

[mossy venture]

Budget and country

[stoic island]

kinda looks like cad by gpu pricing

but dunno

[mossy venture]

Probably

Could be aud

[stoic island]

or aud

or sgd

[mossy venture]

Could be usd with a terribly priced gpu selected

[stoic island]

ye

[mossy venture]

Also d15 is basically just a more expensive ak620

Still a good heatsink, just overpriced

Though I'd get a pa120 at $35 over either of them any day

[stoic island]

I still prefer d15

over ak620 ignoring price

[mossy venture]

It's like 2c better

I got my clc 280 for $60

I've bought two ssds in the last three days

Both for laptops, one for me one for my brother

Ye, I bought the clc before I knew about arctic b stock

Honestly depending on how hot my next cpu is, I might just buy a pa120 and sell the clc

[dim forge]

hemloooooo

Sorry to bother

[mossy venture]

Hi

[dim forge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fk2LbK

is this setup ok for a first setup?

I can't get a dedicated graphic rn bc of inflation + shipping taxes

[mossy venture]

What country are you in?

[dim forge]

Colombia

[mossy venture]

Check this out, if you can afford it https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NQpnNc

Though jt is a decent bit more expensive

[dim forge]

no, but I can get that xpg case in my country for 70usd

in black obv

[mossy venture]

I'd get that then, since shipping on a case will suck

Any way you could buy a cheapish gpu locally?

Ex 1050 ti or similar

[dim forge]

1650 super and that 6500xt don't have ship taxes

but anything better than that

has taxes

6600 is 250 usd in amazon + taxes it goes up to 320-330

😦

[earnest olive]

1650s/6500xt are both going to be worlds better than igpu

[mossy venture]

What about this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rswnNc

Will be a good bit better for gaming than just a 5600g

[dim forge]

also, is a 4core processor good enough? or should I just save a bit more for a i5

[analog pulsar]

what a good 1080p monitor

[mossy venture]

It's fine, especially paired with a 6500xt

The gpu will be the limiting factor in that build

[mossy venture]

G241

[rich void]

It's more about the specific processor than how many cores it has

[mossy venture]

That too, the 10100f is fine to pair with a 6500xt

Alr I'm out

I've gotta be up at 6

[analog pulsar]

how this one its also sell money on amazon let me check newegg

[mossy venture]

Look at rtings reviews

[analog pulsar]

$179 for the G241 on amazon and newegg

well since its gunna be main monitor its just gunna be straight not much movment

my laptop screen is 1440p on a 3060 mobile so FPS is meh plus screen small so i wanna pair it with a 1080p monitor

screen came with 1440p most modern systems now adays have 1440p built in

it sucks

bc thats what screen came with it i thought it was 1080p given the gpu inside of it but asus made laptop not me

[mossy venture]

Rommy it's worse than you think too

[earnest olive]

didn't i tell you to avoid all 1440p+ laptops like the plague

[analog pulsar]

boi all 2022 laptops are freaking 1440p so dont give me this crap

[earnest olive]

yeah that's just not true

[analog pulsar]

legion is 1600p

legion and asus are good brands

[mossy venture]

Weren't you looking at 4k monitors earlier

[mossy venture]

[analog pulsar]

i was just asking around

I dont care

[mossy venture]

Then don't make a blanket statement when it's false

Like

What you said is objectively just not true

Asus as a whole is kinda meh, when you consider their pricing

Legion has... terrible pre builts. Their laptops, some of them are good

[analog pulsar]

thats why they have like tuf and zeph im guessing

[mossy venture]

Audible sigh

[analog pulsar]

wym some laptops good there legion series 5 and 7 are good

[mossy venture]

Obviously their 1600p 3060 laptop isn't good

Because 1600p with a 3060 on a gaming marketed laptop is just plain stupid

Mhm

Now 4k on a tablet or phone

That's just pointless but arguably less stupid

Since you're not actively losing performance

[analog pulsar]

and like i said laptops really domt come with 1080p for some reason new laptops with ryzen 6000 series and intel 12th gen i looked around maybe gigabyte or msi have some but then you get into worst battery life or lower gpu wattage

[mossy venture]

K

[obsidian wigeon]

bruh

[analog pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/c/JarrodsTech/videos

i looked into gigabyte laptops and such with performance/battery life asus and legion have good settings that allow you to disable gpu to be able to save battery if needed

[mossy venture]

To clarify, are you gaming on the go

Or is the laptop used for purely non gaming outside of your home

[analog pulsar]

no i just said disable the gpu

[mossy venture]

So...

Computer and a $250 laptop

I literally just got a $70 8th gen i3 laptop for school

Better battery life than any gaming laptop

And skips the issue of all of whatever the f that is^^

[analog pulsar]

yea but with ddr4 you have to get laptop with with non soldered ram so that you dont get single channel ram

[mossy venture]

Did

[analog pulsar]

yea but when i wanna game I wont be able to

[mossy venture]

Kenzie

Ram cannot be soldered if there is nothing in that slot

It is physically impossible to have soldered single channel non upgradable ram

[analog pulsar]

but some laptops come with soldered ram

[dim forge]

does the 6500xt model matters?

[mossy venture]

No

Just get rhe cheapest one

[dim forge]

oke

[analog pulsar]

wym no yes they do

[mossy venture]

If there is nothing in the second slot

What is soldered into that slot kenzie

[analog pulsar]

im not talking about second slot

[mossy venture]

Kenzie

[analog pulsar]

im talking about soldered ram on laptop

[mossy venture]

YES

KENZIE YOU ARE SO CLOSE

Soldered single channel is upgradable

Because there is a second slot

[analog pulsar]

if you mix 8GB and 16Gb kit on ddr4 the ram stays into single chanel

[mossy venture]

MMMMMM

Physical pain

[analog pulsar]

thats not what @visual notch said

[mossy venture]

Well escanor was wrong, and even if so

Literally just put a second 8gb stick

But it's not right, 16gb will run in dual channel

[analog pulsar]

yea but i need more then just 16GB ram

[mossy venture]

And when you go above 16gb ram usage it'll run in single channel

[dim forge]

do all laptops run dual channel?

[mossy venture]

No

[dim forge]

oh

[mossy venture]

And why didn't you keep a gaming pc and get a dirt cheap laptop?

[analog pulsar]

bc i never had a gaming pc to begin with

[mossy venture]

Excuse me what

[dim forge]

I had 8gb extra ram installed in my laptop and I don't feel anything different, apart from being able to use chrome with games

[mossy venture]

12100f 3050 to 12100f 3080, the 6700xt, 3080 ti at some point

How much did the laptop cost btw?

[dim forge]

bacca

[mossy venture]

Hi

[analog pulsar]

the 12100f/6600xt pc isnt for me i told you i build it for friend

[dim forge]

I can get the i3 w 6500xt setup for 745 usd, that's like 60-70usd more than the one i sent you before with the igpu

but it's way better right

[mossy venture]

This one?

And can sub in the case you can get locally?

[dim forge]

yeah but with the 12100F

[visual notch]

Whoa now, I explained, via Floppa's little insight actually, that it runs in dual channel up to the maximum supported storage capacity of the smallest module x2

[mossy venture]

12100f is a lot better than 10100f, but that one also doesn't come with wifi

[visual notch]

Let's not put words in my mouth.

[mossy venture]

Would have to get ds3h ax b660 for $125 to get wifi included

[dim forge]

why does wifi matters

[mossy venture]

If you're using ethernet, it doesn't

[jagged ember]

not everyone has ethernet

[dim forge]

I don't

[mossy venture]

Then you need wifi

[jagged ember]

then you'll need it

[analog pulsar]

i asked you if you have soldered ram on a laptop DDR4 and you put 16GB stick in second slot it turns ram into single channel

[dim forge]

I'd have to buy an extra router

to connect ethernet to the pc

[viral ore]

you never had alphabet soup??

[dim forge]

😦

[jagged ember]

yeah

[mossy venture]

Then I'd just get a mobo with wifi included

[jagged ember]

then you need wifi lol

[mossy venture]

If going 12100f, ds3h ax

For 10100f, the mobo I had included

[visual notch]

Sigh, no I stated that it does dual channel up to 16GB in the case of 8GB soldered, and beyond that, it runs single channel.

[jagged ember]

escanor knows what he's saying

i think you're just confused, kenzie

[earnest olive]

solder more ram chips onto the laptop mobo

[visual notch]

lol

[earnest olive]

i actually watched a video where someone did that

[dim forge]

that adds up to a total of 780 😭

[earnest olive]

if you can afford the 12100f it's worth it

[visual notch]

^

[analog pulsar]

yes but like i said if you have 8GB soldered ram you can only add other 8GB stick to keep dual channel but if you add high ram it turns it into single then

[earnest olive]

the difference between 10100f and 12100f is huge especially with a 6500xt

[dim forge]

I might wait a bit till raptor lake is out

maybe maybe the prices will drop a bit

[earnest olive]

raptor lake i3s won't exist apparently

[visual notch]

Well, yes and no. It runs dual channel for the first 16GB, and then single channel ONLY AFTER that.

[analog pulsar]

hm

[earnest olive]

heard that it'll be similar to the i3-10105

where it's just a refresh with +100mhz but on the old arch

[jagged ember]

yeah

[earnest olive]

i3-12105 i guess

[dim forge]

I don't mean to buy a raptor lake

[earnest olive]

ah

[jagged ember]

what he said was immediately what i understood

[analog pulsar]

well thats not confusing at all

[jagged ember]

it's not

[dim forge]

just saying maybe prices will go down a bit since they'll use the same chipset

[jagged ember]

you're just confusing it lol

[earnest olive]

i wouldn't expect price drops on i3s to be so significant that they're worth waiting for tbh

i'd just buy now

[jagged ember]

I didn't even have any context

[analog pulsar]

so then if you have 16GB soldered and add 16GB stick it will be dual\

[dim forge]

I meant on boards

[jagged ember]

it's always dual

[visual notch]

Kenzie, it's easy. If you have 8GB soldered, add a 32GB stick, you will have 16GB of dual channel memory, and the remaining 24GB would be single channel.

[mossy venture]

Then 10100f

[obsidian wigeon]

flex mode be like

[jagged ember]

until you use 2* the amount of ram of the smallest stick

[visual notch]

^

[jagged ember]

then it's single channel past that amount

[obsidian wigeon]

but on ddr5 it doesn't matter much

perf difference between one or two stick is minimal enough

cause one stick runs in "dual channel"

[visual notch]

DDR5 is odd, 4 sticks actually degrades performance.

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah lol

[mossy venture]

Well, right now it does

[visual notch]

Yeah for now

[earnest olive]

4 sticks can degrade performance on ddr4 as well

[obsidian wigeon]

just run 2 and you're good

[visual notch]

Future, probably not

[mossy venture]

With new imcs it might be fine

[visual notch]

Yeah, but much more niche case.

[analog pulsar]

didnt pato said 4 sticks of ddr4 does same thing

[earnest olive]

it's just much more situational and much less extreme than ddr5

[visual notch]

To a lesser degree.

DDR5 takes a nosedive with current IMCs

aka Alderlake

[analog pulsar]

screw this pcs hard im getting a tablet

[visual notch]

lol

[jagged ember]

lmao

[dim forge]

😆

[mossy venture]

Yeah, for ddr4 on recent cpus it might be the difference between 3600 and 3200. For ddr5, it's the difference between 6000 and 4400

[jagged ember]

have fun using an ipad

[earnest olive]

time for kenzie to daily an overclocked raspberry pi

[jagged ember]

because it's the only choice for a good tablet

but if you slot in a 16gb dimm...

[earnest olive]

raspberry pi ready for xoc

[obsidian wigeon]

talking about soldered ram, adding another stick of same size will make it dual

[jagged ember]

gah damn

that actually looks sick

[obsidian wigeon]

soldered ram is still ram

[visual notch]

My dream laptop: 7900HS processor (12 core), 4080 mobile, 32GB DDR5-6000

[obsidian wigeon]

it's just that it'll soldered onto the board

[earnest olive]

mmm, rgb cooler for raspberry pi

[obsidian wigeon]

instead of being a stick

[visual notch]

Thanks, bye now.

[mossy venture]

My dream laptop is a 7600hs with no dgpu

[jagged ember]

mine is whatever zephyrus laptop you're using right now

for that price you got it at

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[visual notch]

LOL

[jagged ember]

I WANT THAT

[obsidian wigeon]

it's old tho

9750h :v

[visual notch]

8750h actually

Buh

[obsidian wigeon]

damn

[analog pulsar]

sigh....i really dont wanna say bc i could have built a 6900xt system for the amount but i got impatient i wanna build a desktop with 4000 series but i wanted something RN so i could play games i got bored of staring at my 4 walls after the internet borked itself now i cant watch tv needs internet bc we dont have cable

[jagged ember]

shee

[mossy venture]

Nah, 6750h

[visual notch]

the CPU is long in the tooth

the 2070 MaxQ holds up well

[mossy venture]

I'm not going to say what I want to say to this

[jagged ember]

what

[analog pulsar]

[mossy venture]

But just to clarify, OVER 1450?

[analog pulsar]

no

[earnest olive]

my dream laptop: 13600HK, 2x16gb overclockable ddr5, 4080M, no battery, 4 usb-a, 1 usb-c, hdmi, full size DP

[visual notch]

Well, Amazon screwed up on their end when I bought my Zephyrus. So I got it for $500. lol

So it was a super win

[analog pulsar]

im inpatient

[stoic island]

so not a laptop?

[earnest olive]

oh yeah, factory liquid metal as well

[obsidian wigeon]

desktop, literally

[stoic island]

hehe

[obsidian wigeon]

[earnest olive]

a portable desktop yes

[analog pulsar]

1,421.99

[stoic island]

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

just build an itx and get portable monitor

jk

[visual notch]

Zephyrus series has LM by default on both CPU and GPU

[earnest olive]

i will fight you

[visual notch]

with nickel plating over the copper

[obsidian wigeon]

haha

[analog pulsar]

i have a zeph

[obsidian wigeon]

i want strix quite a lot tho

[earnest olive]

factory LM isn't a big enough draw to be a defining factor, but it's a nice-to-have

[visual notch]

Oh, you got one finally?

[earnest olive]

i'm comfortable enough doing LM on my own

[obsidian wigeon]

it has lm on just cpu

nickel plated for cpu side

gpu is paste and copper

[visual notch]

Very nice Kenzie. NOW KEEP IT

[obsidian wigeon]

that's enough for me

im too scared to mess with lm anyway lol

[earnest olive]

top 3 most important features for me

1. 1080p high refresh screen
2. overclockable ram
3. high TGP

[jagged ember]

are you planning on returning it again?

[obsidian wigeon]

i just want a laptop with nice screen, high tgp and good cooling

[analog pulsar]

maybe by how you people talking

[visual notch]

O.M.G. It's like one of the best screens on any laptop, lol

HAHAHAH

Kenzie, you're hopeless

[jagged ember]

look you can't blame us when you've literally returned almost everything you bought lol

[mossy venture]

1440p on a laptop is not good for gaming

[earnest olive]

1440p is the problem here

[analog pulsar]

I need peoples approval

[jagged ember]

1440p is fine on a laptop

[visual notch]

1440p gaming on a laptop is fine with a 3060 or better.

[mossy venture]

It tanks fps while not really benefiting from the bigger screen size that normally comes with 1440p

[obsidian wigeon]

this isn't a 1650 tho

[visual notch]

Just use DLSS or FSR

[obsidian wigeon]

it's 3060 with 130w tgp

[analog pulsar]

my games dont have it

[earnest olive]

okay but what is the benefit from 1440p

[visual notch]

You're covered.

[obsidian wigeon]

1440p is fine

[visual notch]

Either?!

[earnest olive]

do you sit 1 inch away from your screen?

[jagged ember]

look sharp

[obsidian wigeon]

i don't say i want it

[jagged ember]

very sharp

[analog pulsar]

laptop is 3060 100W 1440p

[obsidian wigeon]

100+30

[earnest olive]

have you ever used a high res laptop screen

[visual notch]

You ever seen a Zephyrus 1440p screen IRL? It's incredible.

[obsidian wigeon]

not just 100

[jagged ember]

no, and no to nvidia man

[mossy venture]

My 1080p laptop looked SO crisp

[earnest olive]

i couldn't tell even 0.01% of difference between 1080p and 4K on my 15" laptop

[obsidian wigeon]

1440p is fine if laptop has higher end gpu and tgp

[mossy venture]

I see no point to over that

[analog pulsar]

plus 20 but no my cpu HAS to be 15W for dynamic boost inabled i already tried it all

[visual notch]

Hang on.....

[obsidian wigeon]

otherwise 1080p

[earnest olive]

exactly, zero actual benefit of 1440p, only downsides

i don't care how "fine" it is

[analog pulsar]

like ill load up game really quick

[earnest olive]

it's pure downside with no upside

[visual notch]

I have actual pictures of a G15 with a 1440p screen, and it's evident from the pics how sharp it is.

[earnest olive]

why compromise

[jagged ember]

i've tried using something similar to 2k on a 14" screen though

[rich void]

Entirely depends on the game. And I don't think that's true a lot of the time

[jagged ember]

stuff looks real sharp

[earnest olive]

1080p 15" is higher pixel density than 4k 32" already

[jagged ember]

this 1080p on a 17" screen looks way less sharp

[earnest olive]

again, are you 1 inch away from your screen?

[jagged ember]

okay, fair enough it was a surface pro

but look surfaces are ass anyways

noo you've summoned SB3 man

[obsidian wigeon]

im fine with 1440p, but the added cost is unacceptable for me for the perf compromise

[earnest olive]

lol added cost

1440p option would have to be at least 50% cheaper for me to even consider it

[obsidian wigeon]

1080p models of same laptop costs considerably less

compared to that of 1440p counterpart

[earnest olive]

i know, and it boggles my mind that people are actually willing to pay more for a worse product

just because bigger number

[obsidian wigeon]

well, sometimes they simply force you by making high color gamut and brightness 1440p only

it's evident on so many laptops

[earnest olive]

yeah, my 1080p screen has excellent color/image quality

[obsidian wigeon]

it's the problem i hate

[visual notch]

That's a 1440p G15

[obsidian wigeon]

300 nits 1080p with bleh color gamut

[earnest olive]

brightness concerns are completely overblown to me

300 nits is insane

[obsidian wigeon]

while 1440p has 400+ nits

and better color gamut

[earnest olive]

300 nits is listed as a con on my laptop

[obsidian wigeon]

and contrast

[visual notch]

It's just the focus on my camera, it was SOOO crisp

[earnest olive]

but i have to use it at 25% brightness or it hurts the hell out of my eyes

[visual notch]

compared to my 1080p zephy

[obsidian wigeon]

just adjust brightness lol

[earnest olive]

i don't know what kind of human beings actually want 1000 nits screens

[visual notch]

I run at 100% brightness, but I have LR lights on too, so.....

[earnest olive]

they must be trying to go blind by age 25

[obsidian wigeon]

hdr tho

[obsidian wigeon]

no one actually runs 1000 nits

[visual notch]

LISTEN I HAD TO DIG THROUGH 1000 PICTURES TO FIND THAT. lol

[obsidian wigeon]

cause it would destroy your eyes

[earnest olive]

300 nits is already unbelievably overkill for me

are yall gaming in the sun while intentionally trying to point your laptop screen directly at the sun or what

idk

[obsidian wigeon]

hdr with 1000 nits screens aren't bad for the eyes at all

they just bring out more detail

[elfin flame]

1080p >>>>>> on laptops.
Hands down.

[analog pulsar]

I'm sorry 😞

[earnest olive]

id prefer 720p over 1440p on a laptop lol

[visual notch]

The 2022 Zephyrus laptops actually have 16:10 screen ratio, which I appreciate.

[obsidian wigeon]

720p

now i can't accept that, heck nah

i already hate my 768p lol

[obsidian wigeon]

i can kinda see the pixels from my sitting distance

with 15.6"

[visual notch]

4K I can accept. 1440p? Questionable. It's like HD on a phone vs non-HD kinda difference, yes, but it is noticeable.

[earnest olive]

a lot of people run 125% app scaling at 1080p, which makes your working space effectively 864p

720p obviously isn't good, but i think it's less bad than 1440p

[obsidian wigeon]

it looks much worse

[analog pulsar]

1080p on laptop is 125% and 1440p is 150% zoomed haha

[obsidian wigeon]

you sure get a lot more perf but

1080p is already good

[earnest olive]

yeah, it doesn't make any sense to buy a 1440p screen just to scale up everything

[obsidian wigeon]

it sits between sharpness and perf

just right

[analog pulsar]

I might just return laptop and get 1080p laptop

[earnest olive]

1080p on a 15" screen is already perfect sharpness idk who needs more

[analog pulsar]

Now I gotta drive another 63 miles to return it

[earnest olive]

do you want 4k 24" desktop monitor?

1080p 15" is better pixel density than standard 4k desktop monitors

[analog pulsar]

I drove to another state to go to a best buy that had this laptop I'm very inpatient

[earnest olive]

i still don't see any reason for phone screens above 720p tbh

i ran my old phone at 720p on its 1440p screen

couldn't notice any difference in looks

but i noticed the 4 day long battery life

[jagged ember]

Phone screens are fair game

[earnest olive]

my new phone is 1080p so i can't really downsize that to 720p without looking bad

[jagged ember]

1080p is already enough indeed

[earnest olive]

and 540p is getting sus

[jagged ember]

540p kek

Now that’s too small

[earnest olive]

my new phone has no resolution control, only refresh rate

[analog pulsar]

What's difference from 5900HX vs 6900HS

[earnest olive]

it's 120hz but i never use the 120hz, it's always at 60hz

[jagged ember]

But the genshin

[earnest olive]

lol

genshin is locked at 60 fps on android

[obsidian wigeon]

6900hs is faster

[earnest olive]

and i don't play genshin on phone anyways

[obsidian wigeon]

but i wouldn't say it's worth it

[earnest olive]

dude

[jagged ember]

Actually? That’s dumb

[obsidian wigeon]

unless that laptop with newer cpu has mux switch

[earnest olive]

if i play genshin on my phone it runs 1080p60 ultra no problem

for 10 minutes

and then i get a temperature warning

and then it starts stuttering

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

phone cooling go brr

gaming laptop overheating memes are so dead now

let's make gaming phone memes

[jagged ember]

Now it’s phone gaming overheat time

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

[jagged ember]

Where’s my rog phone

[analog pulsar]

It does have much switch

[jagged ember]

With the phat fan

[earnest olive]

just carry this around, downside is that you'll have to fight off all the women while you game which is very distracting

? you telling me anyone will be able to resist this

my ex had to come with me to fight off all the women in the starbucks when i brought my test bench to run benchmarks on a 5700xt in the middle of the starbucks

[bitter mason]

Surfacebook3. Imagine a macbook with windows but it has an actual GPU & terrible thermals

[bitter mason]

shoebox one?

[obsidian wigeon]

then i would just get the newer one, if price isn't too steep

[earnest olive]

not quite a shoebox but yeah

[analog pulsar]

@obsidian wigeon well there also this which is cheaper has 140W 3060 with cpu being 35-45W as well and 1080p screen which being cheaper over all......I think I made a mistake

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

[earnest olive]

that's better but still not good

[obsidian wigeon]

that's a miles ahead laptop imo

than the zeph you got

legion 5 has mux

[earnest olive]

you can get 3070 for that price easily if you just go for previous gen cpu that doesn't bottleneck the 3070 anyways

[analog pulsar]

Hm

[obsidian wigeon]

but lack of mux tho, that can hurt it

[earnest olive]

no point overpaying for ryzen 6000 and ddr5 with ampere

[analog pulsar]

no mux on old gen too

[obsidian wigeon]

perf boost is on average 20% with mux switch

switched on to dgpu

[analog pulsar]

you mean this

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834725184

or just get this gigabyte

3070 for 1199

with 11800h

[analog pulsar]

yea but battery life

[jagged ember]

E

[analog pulsar]

the battery is 48.9whr or something

[obsidian wigeon]

what do you even need batt life for

i honestly don't see the need since you're gonna be using it at home constantly

[jagged ember]

okay look when you've got the sun in your eyes because your window doesn't have shades

[analog pulsar]

I wanted a laptop that will survive on battery so I don't need to habe it plugged in Constantly

[analog pulsar]

Let me try into what I wanna say one moment

[obsidian wigeon]

you can just put the 11800h to 15w

or less even, and it'll run fine

[jagged ember]

m

power saving mode

my dell lasts like 4 hours on power saving mode

[analog pulsar]

Yea but gigabyte lacks that kind of

[jagged ember]

the windows one bro

[obsidian wigeon]

the gigabyte actually has 99wh

as far as i can see

[jagged ember]

I have 56wh

4 hours on power saving on a 5600H and a 3050

[dim forge]

does the b660m ds3h ax allows to run the 6500xt on pcie 4.0?

[obsidian wigeon]

yep, the gigabyte has 99wh

so just get it

[analog pulsar]

Oh cool

[dim forge]

also, I read online 6500xt is not good for streaming, why?

[obsidian wigeon]

don't consider that card

[jagged ember]

oh no

[obsidian wigeon]

it lacks any form of hardware encoder

so it sucks on that too

[jagged ember]

you aren't serious about the 6500xt are you?

[obsidian wigeon]

just get a used gpu tbh, much better than way

[dim forge]

I can only buy that or the 1650 super 😦

[obsidian wigeon]

6500xt is slower than 5500xt

[jagged ember]

used cards my friend

6500xt is literally just an igpu

but worse

[obsidian wigeon]

used 1060 will do

[jagged ember]

because it doesn't have hardware encoding

[dim forge]

I don't know where to buy an used gpu in my country, but thanks for the feedback

[obsidian wigeon]

it's laptop gpu, hence no hw encoder

[dim forge]

what's that

and why is it important

[obsidian wigeon]

amd planned to make igpu on the apu handle encoding

[jagged ember]

important for video

[obsidian wigeon]

it is important for video and streaming

[jagged ember]

literally any video you watch needs decoding

[obsidian wigeon]

software encoding is very slow

[jagged ember]

and encoding is for streaming yeah

[dim forge]

ohhh

[jagged ember]

hardware side is much less resource intensive

software encoding or decoding uses more of your resources

funny as it sounds

[dim forge]

hmm I'll look for used gpus

[obsidian wigeon]

rx580 8gb or 1060 6gb would be optimal goal

[jagged ember]

floppa running rtx voice on his 580 lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

assuming $150 price range

he has no 580 no more tho

[dim forge]

also, that aoc monitor

[obsidian wigeon]

1080 now

[jagged ember]

tru

[dim forge]

G2490VX

has only freesync

will an amd gpu be better?

[analog pulsar]

@obsidian wigeon But what I wanted to tie in is I wanted to get a laptop That can play legal light games so I was talking to computer and He said a 3050 or like 3060 would be better than an IGPU system So I was looking around for like 3050 Laptops and stuff and I came across like came across like this 1 30 70 laptop but it was kind of near the price of a 3060 laptop top I did buy a 3060 laptop for about $1000 I returned it because the GPU wattage was too low....... What I wanted to get was a laptop that can still pretty much gain but it's also good on battery when you need it too.... I want to have a desktop that's mainly for gaming and then a laptop for the other work I needed to do But say I want to go to lake the beach when it turns nighttime or whatever I can game game a little bit before going to bed or whatever only or whatever only a 3060 laptop instead of like carrying the desktop everywhere

I used voice to text sorry if some stuff doesn't add up

[jagged ember]

basically fully compatible with Nvidia gpus

not a concern

but there might be some slight little differences I don't understand

Mother Superior will be able to assist if needed

if you wanted a portable gaming device

steam deck

[obsidian wigeon]

for the price/perf ratio

i would bite the bullet

[jagged ember]

if it's just light games

[obsidian wigeon]

and go 3070

[analog pulsar]

Yea but I don't like small screen

[jagged ember]

you can use the dock you have now smh

it has an HDMI port

[obsidian wigeon]

the gigabyte is only 1199 rn

but if you want less i can try and find

[analog pulsar]

Yea that is cheaper then any of the other ones but how much performance boost in there from 3060 140W vs 3070 130W

[obsidian wigeon]

a lot

[analog pulsar]

Hm

[obsidian wigeon]

it's not 80w 3070 vs 140w 3060

[jagged ember]

I'd also consider getting mother Superior opinion on this

[obsidian wigeon]

that has same perf

[jagged ember]

he's the nvidia expert lol

I feel like the higher power 3060 mobile would be better but I don't know where I'm getting this idea from

[obsidian wigeon]

no

not at all

at only 10w diff the 3070 can still stretch its legs

if it's 80w however, it gets neutered basically

[analog pulsar]

Mostly I was just looking for a laptop that can do light gaming so 3050 should be fine ig but the prices near 3060 laptops I did see 3050 laptop for $569 but its out of stock mostly I would like desktop to me main gaming machine and then laptop can be secondary if needed

[obsidian wigeon]

3050 is fine too

[jagged ember]

3050 is fine

runs fh5 on high

[analog pulsar]

I got zeph bc it's looks cool and Escanor said it was good

[jagged ember]

pretty well

zeph is good overall

that is true

but do you really need all that compute power

that's the only thing

if it's just medium gaming the 3050 would work too

obviously need to turn down some settings for the 4gb vram

but imo not like I'm playing halo infinite at ultra anyways

[jagged ember]

seems a bit much for light gaming

[obsidian wigeon]

at current prices

[obsidian wigeon]

3060 seems best

oh the advantage is nice too

[jagged ember]

oh nice price

[obsidian wigeon]

6800m go brr

[analog pulsar]

1.5k is what i can do

[jagged ember]

no nvidia broadcast support though

[obsidian wigeon]

i would just get gigabyte imo

[analog pulsar]

but im sure 6800M is faster then 3060

[obsidian wigeon]

if you're going so expensive

6800m is much faster

but like yknow 3070 is still very good

or 3060

[analog pulsar]

gpu nice wattage

battery is nice

[analog pulsar]

well since i spent 1.5k on this laptop when i could get 6800M with same price just on older model

[obsidian wigeon]

but in my opinion

i'd rather save money and get gigabyte 15

[analog pulsar]

oh its 1440p

[obsidian wigeon]

ye it is

advantage edition

one of requirements are 1440p lol

[analog pulsar]

yea but i do like asus software and be able to control everything

[obsidian wigeon]

gigabyte lets you do that too

[analog pulsar]

well the guy in video had 1080p 300HZ

[jagged ember]

jesus

[obsidian wigeon]

there's two versions of the laptop

1080p or 1440p

but still

just save your money and grab aorus on newegg

11800h won't be too hungry if you need it to be efficient

99wh can still take you at least 8 hours

[analog pulsar]

this is cost

oh screen is 1080p thats nice

ports selection is nice too

[jagged ember]

Oh thunderbolt eh

[analog pulsar]

@obsidian wigeon only sad thing is i have to drive to best buy tommorow to return this laptop then and paypal wont give money back until like tuesday i hope sale stays

[jagged ember]

That usb c hub isn’t gonna work on that

[analog pulsar]

oh it does lol

[obsidian wigeon]

i hope that deal stays then

[analog pulsar]

i had thunderbolt on my last 3070 lapto[

[obsidian wigeon]

but the aorus 15 is regularly on sale anyway

it's been like this since last year

[jagged ember]

Thunderbolt isn’t the same as usb c standard though

[analog pulsar]

oh

[jagged ember]

Hm

[analog pulsar]

wait brb

[obsidian wigeon]

it's like a new msrp at this point

i would totally get it if i had the money

and lived in the us lol

[analog pulsar]

i was looking idk but all ports work and even HDMI works

[jagged ember]

Wild

[analog pulsar]

only thing i didnt test is charging

i dont have 100W charger

[analog pulsar]

oh

[jagged ember]

Maybe it’s just charging that doesn’t work

Cause thunderbolt doesn’t have charging capability as far as I know

[obsidian wigeon]

i would legit get it if i have money rn too

just gotta get a forwarder service

[jagged ember]

Well I’m a forwarding service for our sponsor, glasswire

[analog pulsar]

no i dont have a cable or wall adapter that is 100W

[jagged ember]

Yeah I know you can’t test it

[analog pulsar]

my laptop once said " I WONT CHARGE BC YOUR CABLE WEAK"

[jagged ember]

But I suspect charging is the only thing it won’t support

Don’t take my word for it though lol I have no real basis for this

[obsidian wigeon]

tb doesn't have charging support

you have to have usb with pd

[jagged ember]

That’s what I remembered

But I wasn’t sure

[analog pulsar]

hm i thought it did

[jagged ember]

Too lazy to google

Tb can give power but not for usb c pd

[analog pulsar]

[jagged ember]

Lol it didn’t even answer the question

[analog pulsar]

haha

[jagged ember]

Hey can this charge?

Yeah you can plug it in

[analog pulsar]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/resources/upgrade-gaming-accessories-thunderbolt-4.html

[obsidian wigeon]

tb4 is included with usb4

[jagged ember]

Wha

[obsidian wigeon]

but anything else, no

unless it's something special

like usb pd wirh tb3

or something

[analog pulsar]

hm

[jagged ember]

Hmmm

[obsidian wigeon]

it just depends on the laptop

you gotta check one by one

[jagged ember]

Seems fair

And sounds about right

companies not following specific standards

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

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@obsidian wigeon there is one issue with my current laptop tho

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

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It's muffled but my legion laptop NEVER sounded like this

Ewwwwww

[obsidian wigeon]

that's a defect

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I did get open box

[obsidian wigeon]

i would just return it

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ew my cable in way of mouse ewwwwwwwwwwww

thats ew

ethernet port on right side

im right handed

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You try getting the latest audio drivers from asus yet

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i think so

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Better make sure lol

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says up-to-date

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well returning it anyway so

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Ohyeah

I forgot

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@obsidian wigeon what other info can you get on laptop like how is dynamic boost enabled can the cpu also keep high wattage bc my asus laptop cpu has to be 15W for 3060 to use 120W

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that's kinda the deal for all laptops

they have to balance power based on what needs it more

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no legion can have cpu stay at like 35-45W with gpu full load

brb

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that means it has a higher overall power budget then

it's still limited by the manufacturer

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ASUS

Legion

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true but thats all all lapops

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that's my point

oh I see what you were asking now

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yea but asus sad

i mean i think there strix is more better

strix little better

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little is an understatement

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well... Unify-X just POSTed 4700 on 10900K

all these years I blamed IMC

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@obsidian wigeon sorry for ping again but what about 17 inch is there any laptop thats 17inch and is like good deal

well theres this but i cant do amazon sad

bruh the gpu is 105W

we cant have anything nice in this WORLD ahhhhhhhhh

[obsidian wigeon]

tbh

17 inches is needlessly big

and yeah, aorus 15 and 17 has 105w

but does it even matter? no

it's still faster than 3060

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Ye but good for 1080p screen

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No 15 is 130W on gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

the price difference is too steep

huh, damn

that's odd

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Or on laptop you showed

Someone said to get this

I think it has same gpu wattage

[obsidian wigeon]

nah nah nah

1440p

heck no