building-and-recc-chat

[untold beacon]

So u think I should get the 3080 or wait for the 4070

[potent portal]

What do you have right now?

[untold beacon]

I kinda wanna get the 3080 since I’ve been waiting almost 2 years to get that thing

Not a gpu 😂

[potent portal]

Then yeah just grab the 3080

[untold beacon]

Intergrated graphics

Sadly

Very dark

😭

Alright

Well thanks my friend

See ya tomorrow

[potent portal]

Good night

[untold beacon]

Good night 😴

[icy crater]

Good night.

[cyan ravine]

good afternoon

[frigid night]

@grim wraith that's a pretty sick theme man.

Is your cpu block custom or is that a display?

[cyan ravine]

Looks like that uber expensive ryujin 2

[icy crater]

WTF.

I just check that and the price just boggles my mind.

Ohh noctua.

[grim wraith]

It is the Uber expensive Ryujin 2 🤣

[frigid night]

does it come in white?

[grim wraith]

Unfortunately no

I have seen people paint them white and they look sick

[analog pulsar]

@frigid night hey can I dm you

[glossy dragon]

3090ti or 6950xt if im going for top performance in gaming

[mossy venture]

6950xt, only time you should consider a 3090 ti is if it's $950 or under.

Even 6950xt doesn't make much sense

Imo just get 6900xt and put a light oc on it, that's essentially what a 6950xt is anyways

[glossy dragon]

is my 850w enough?

ive gone to like 3 different calculators

and all of them come up with different numbers

from 640-950w needed

my biggest draw to 3090ti is the extra(and faster) memory but does it really not matter

[mossy venture]

Yes it's fine, but not for a 3090 ti

I would either get 6900xt or 3080 12gb

With an oc, either matches or beats the 3090 ti

[potent portal]

4080, 4090, 7800 XT, or 7900 XT when they come out in a few months. They'll blow away the 3090 ti.

[glossy dragon]

i currently run a 770 and just want to play AAA games without it crashing

tbh

i dont entirely want to continually upgrade so i want the headroom of it being enough for awhile

6900xt though

[mossy venture]

The difference between 6900xt and 6950xt/3090 ti is negligible

[fossil cedar]

same for 3080 12gb/6900xt and up especially for the stupid price differences

[fossil cedar]

be nice with your words pls :(

[glossy dragon]

man

[analog hearth]

man

[cyan ravine]

man

[mossy venture]

Woman

[fast plinth]

Man

[unique haven]

Yoooo

My pc works

I figured out the issue

My fan hub didn’t work

And I got a new one now

[leaden mauve]

Your PC didnt post because your fan hub didnt work? Did you connect your cpu fan to it or something lol

good that it's working though

[unique haven]

No

The fan hub was wierd

[untold beacon]

Hello my friends I am back again

[unique haven]

Hi

[untold beacon]

Alright everyone so I got a question who do we think is gonna come out on top for new gen cpus amd or intel

[jagged ember]

This is uh

More general chat content

[untold beacon]

Personally i think amd is gonna take the win

Well

It ain’t really gonna matter

I was gonna talk about my pc anyways and ask if this is good or not

[jagged ember]

Ah ic

[untold beacon]

Just wanted to get something started up that’s all

[jagged ember]

Haven’t kept up with rumors

All I know is I won’t lose either way

[untold beacon]

Yep

Well

Minds well post this since it’s the build chat

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xCCRnt

Y’all think that’s a good build

I already got all the other parts except for the GPU of course

[grim wraith]

Yeah only reason I grabbed my 3090ti was because it was $840

[strong raft]

Well we can do 12600KF for $220 & a 12GB 3080 is maybe $760 (TUF model at newegg)

[little osprey]

Just double checking before I buy, but is anything gonna go down in price intel wise in the next like week or so?

10400F or 12100F?

[little osprey]

Seperate question

[earnest olive]

12100F

[little osprey]

So I think I remember watching something somewhere where the vid said I needed to buy something special for the nzxt z73 when using a i9 12900k what exactly do I have to buy cuz I forgot ?

[earnest olive]

lga1700 kit

also, not required but if you have a 12900K you should consider a thermalright lga1700 contact frame

[little osprey]

Any particular reason it sounded like the board cracked to me when I put my cousins CPU in (same board and cpu btw) or is that just how it sounds when its in? I mean its working perfectly fine but that really unnerved me

[earnest olive]

just happens sometimes

[little osprey]

Legit just bought it and put it together I was like

[earnest olive]

happened to me too on one of my first intel builds

freaked me out

but it's fine

[little osprey]

"Did that just crack?"

If I did intel builds I'd have trauma

xD

That kinda stuff makes me freak out

[earnest olive]

it's rare

but yeah if it's the first time it's scary

[little osprey]

My nephew is known for his badluck

Which is why he had me build it

lmao

Dude was pissed at me over something night before final part arrived I forget what, but I go up to him the next day Im like "you really think you can build it yourself?" He's like "no lmao I'd break it help me"

Any advice for cheap 120mm fans? I need like 3

[potent portal]

Arctic p12

[little osprey]

rip still pricy ig gonna have to buy later

I have 2 120mm's so

[fossil cedar]

8$/fan is pricey?

Or 4.50£/fan if you're in the uk

[little osprey]

For my minimal budget rn

Yes

Also thats only 1 fan

For a bundle of 3 its 50$

Can also get a bundle of 5 for 50-60$

Which I might do that one

Take out my white LEDs

[fossil cedar]

It's like 25? What country are you

[little osprey]

US

[potent portal]

Where are you looking that it's that price

[fossil cedar]

@little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LmCFf7/arctic-p12-pst-563-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-acfan00137a

[little osprey]

That is alot more reasonable 30$

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/68WfrH/arctic-p12-563-cfm-120-mm-fan-acfan00120a

For one fan

[little osprey]

I might be able to get that on the first of month

[empty pollen]

p12s pricey? how dare you?

[empty pollen]

30 bucks for a pack of five

👍

you can even zip tie the last 2 to your cooler

your imagination is the limit

🥳

[broken lake]

Don’t know if this is the right place to ask but if I was looking to sell my Alienware case, motherboard, i9 7980xe, and cooler/fans how much do you think I should ask for either the whole thing or parts of it?

[viral ore]

i would list the case on fb market for like 40

[fossil cedar]

a lot of coolers come with fan brackets so zipties not even a need

[viral ore]

depending on the case ig

[viral ore]

then check ebay for similar cpu mobo combos and what they sold for

if you dont wanna hassle with ebay, fb market it as well for that price, expect people to offer like 100 less than that and take it

hold on to all the case fans for your next build

if the cooler retails for >120, also try to resell it

if its less probably not worth your time trying to resell

but it never hurts to list so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fast pivot]

update: got a new working psu and finished the pc, but the case power button won't work. help?

[stoic island]

tried jumping the pins?

[fast pivot]

wdym?

wait

got it

[fast pivot]

i tried it and nothing happened

[olive cypress]

Is the PSU on?

[fast pivot]

yeah

[stoic island]

If absolutely nothing happens when you jump the pwr switch pins with everything plugged in, blame the mobo

[fast pivot]

k

[stoic island]

Was trying to say plugged into PSU and brain just kinda decided to not work

[fast pivot]

bruh

[viral ore]

bruh

[stoic island]

But if absolutely nothing happens with everything plugged into PSU, something is probably wrong with mobo

[fast pivot]

ok

[stoic island]

If fans spin for a second or anything like that, that matters

[fast pivot]

yeah they do

[stoic island]

Then something happened....

Try to clear cmos

[fast pivot]

k

brb

[hybrid briar]

so my fans in my pc are speeding up and slowing down. it just came in today and this is my first pc.

not really sure what to do, don’t wanna screw anything up

no just sitting idle on my home screen with no apps running

yep

[brittle tinsel]

will graphics drivers mess up if I have a nvidia card and AMD card installed?

I currently have a 1060 3gb, but when I record/stream using the gpu encoder on obs, it works fine, until I disable streamlabs performance mode. then there are frame drops. up to 20 in an hour period.
so would I be able to use the amd gpu entirely of its own for streamlabs or could I maybe swap around and game on the rx 570 and stream/record from the 1060 3gb?

[empty pollen]

you can ziptie 2 more p12s... more the better 😄 you cant go wrong with moar p12s :3

[hybrid briar]

so can anyone help me with this 😭

[grim wraith]

Can you send a video of this what exactly is going on?

[hybrid briar]

if i can catch it doing it. it surges and slows down in less than 3 seconds

[grim wraith]

So it doesn’t continuously do it?

[hybrid briar]

no

[grim wraith]

When exactly does it do it? And how often?

[hybrid briar]

everyone couple of minutes maybe? it hasn’t done it for a bit

it’s now just running a tad loud in general

[grim wraith]

Dm me

[hybrid briar]

4 pin

[cyan ravine]

Methinks the fans speeding up and slowing down as the cpu utilisation ramps up and down

[grim wraith]

Currently working on that with him

[dense stirrup]

Um I want to know what a good mouse is for around $60ish dollars

My friend recommended the xtrfy m42 for $60 but I want to hear other suggestions

[mossy venture]

depends on how big your hand is and what grip you use

[dense stirrup]

Idk my hand's measurements but I think I use something called "palm-claw"

Something along those lines

[mossy venture]

check out orochi v2

[dense stirrup]

kk, thank you

[potent portal]

I'm a similar grip to that, I like the Logitech G502 hero. It's a bit bigger and heavier.

[dense stirrup]

Yeah I've seen that one. Seems too bulky for me. I want to try a simplistic design

[untold beacon]

So our Corsair case fans good like the $50 dollar ones

https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwj3ptmaiub5AhWRzbMKHVzqD1YYABABGgJxbg&sig=AOD64_19_gt4mAJA_g1FWDO9zObB6Su3cw&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwiE7sWaiub5AhV8kokEHeXAB5MQww8IuBM&adurl=

These ones since I don’t know anything about fans

[obsidian wigeon]

no

[mossy venture]

not for the price, p12s match them

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[mossy venture]

while being much cheaper

[obsidian wigeon]

p12 has argb version too

[untold beacon]

Ah I see

I was just wondering because I heard those fans are pretty good

[potent portal]

There's a fan recommendations list pinned in #old-cooling

[untold beacon]

Alright

Thanks my dude

[wintry lodge]

What you guys think about this as for beginners?

[gentle pollen]

Depends, what is it for?

[wintry lodge]

gaming

[gentle pollen]

What kind of game?

[wintry lodge]

for cod gta Val

[gentle pollen]

I never played GTA except for 1 and 2, so I can't say for those.

But at 1080P 60Hz, it should be fine for COD, might be a little rough for Val.

[wintry lodge]

got it

[gentle pollen]

Honestly, at that price you can find a laptop with better specs.

But if you are the hardware collector or down the line upgradable type I'd recommend looking around more for the same specs but cheaper.

The way I would do it at least.

[fossil cedar]

4xp12s on single tower cooler?

[cyan ravine]

2 each side yo

Push push pull pull new meta les gooooo

[icy crater]

Any good white microatx cases that offer good airflow and looks good?

Oh also fits this chunky power supply?

[still roost]

AndyLi#9766 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[icy crater]

Omg..

Not again.

[fossil cedar]

That's a regular sized psu, anything that needs a 850w i would not go matx, just gives less room for gpu to breath tbh

Would prefer itx usually

[icy crater]

Gotchaa, would a 3080 be fine in matx or itx?

[fossil cedar]

I'd prefer it in itx, and tbh matx is barely smaller than atx if you want small itx deffo way to go

Although actually the fractal pop air mini might be okay if it's a 2/2.5 slot gpu

But i just don't see the use for matx

[icy crater]

Wait so matx cases are usually called mid towers right?

Also how do I find out how big a gpu is like slotwise?

[fossil cedar]

Nope

Mid tower is atx

[fossil cedar]

Google it

Matx is micro atx

[analog hearth]

not the phat GPU and then the stock Intel CPU cooler
#build-pics message

@unique haven

lol

[little osprey]

surely someone helps out here with a build list 🙏

m-atx
mobo to have wifi n bluetooth (as well as usb c)
silent, no rgb
modular psu
1tb minimum NVME ssd
2000 aud n under

[fossil cedar]

We already helped you

[little osprey]

with an itx build

[formal girder]

You say itx when you stated earlier clearly m-atx

[obsidian wigeon]

m-atx isn't itx

itx is smaller lol

[unique haven]

I have a aio but it doesn’t fit and the stock works very well

Stock just doesn’t look nice

[empty pollen]

stock should work fine, downside is that it cannot hold boost clock for long

plus looks ugly

[unique haven]

It’ll be fine for now

If anything I just swap it out in the future

[empty pollen]

true

[mossy venture]

Terrible for the price

[violet pebble]

I want to send a build that I’m planning to buy on Black Friday

[stoic island]

Do remember it'll change by the time Black Friday rolls around

[mossy venture]

New parts will have come out by then

As well as prices will have changed a lot

[stoic island]

But send the pcpp list if you want

We could offer general advice

[shut rampart]

hola, I know I asked you guys an upgrade 1 month ago but just to make sure is these part good? I can wait a few months if needed to get the right specs, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DQRpmr ( upgraded parts ) / https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qhCH27 ( my parts)

buget: $1000 in upgrades

[empty pollen]

this one is still ok https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DQRpmr

[mossy venture]

Are you in the us?

[shut rampart]

yes

[empty pollen]

you can even downgrade to a 5600 if you struggle with your wallet

[shut rampart]

its fine, if there any other product that is coming soon I dont mind waiting

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4cbKNc

But am5 releases soon, which means 5000 series prices will likely fall

[shut rampart]

so wait for am5?

[mossy venture]

Possibly next week even

Sept 22nd at the latest

[shut rampart]

I can wait

[mossy venture]

I'd check back in when you're about to buy

Prices change daily

[shut rampart]

whats the differnace between EVGA SuperNOVA GT 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply & EVGA G5 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

[mossy venture]

G5 has slightly worse transient control, but for a 6700xt it's more than fine

[stoic island]

Different platform different parts

[mossy venture]

At $90 gt 650 is overpriced

That's the price of an A tier 850 right now

Gf1 850

Could also get nzxt c 750 for less

Better than the gt too

[empty pollen]

true, as gorf said, better to check a list when you are about to buy, prices change constantly and some parts on a good deal today could be overpriced tomorrow

[stoic island]

A-gf 750w was around that price too

[empty pollen]

and same, some parts overpriced today could be on a sale tomorrow

[stoic island]

Although iirc G5 has better voltreg than gt

[empty pollen]

with how volatile the market is, prices constantly changes by the hour

plus new gen around the corner

[shut rampart]

I will prob wait until am5 release and then prob start working on buying

[mossy venture]

I'd buy everything together

[fossil cedar]

Ehh hasn't been good price for a while and that bad power ok signal puts me off if better ones available for price

[mossy venture]

Oh wait

Nvm

You're upgrading not building a new pc

[shut rampart]

yha

[mossy venture]

So can buy separately

[fossil cedar]

I would go 13th gen or ryzen 7000 if you're upgrading

[shut rampart]

alright I can do that which one

[empty pollen]

even if you are buying old gen, waiting is your best bet, hopefully prices on older gens will plummet when am5 and rpl are out

[shut rampart]

once it comes out but dont I need a new motherboard?

[mossy venture]

Yeah, for 13th gen you'd need a new mobo but could keep ram

Am5 would need new ram and mobo

Imo I'd look for a used 5000 series cpu so you can keep mobo once am5/13th gen launch

[fossil cedar]

You will need a new motherboard

Honestly i would wait on cpu and gpu upgrade and just upgrade power supply ssd and case atm

[shut rampart]

ok

and im getting the g5 one right?

[empty pollen]

if you are not upgrading your gpu anytime soon then yes

[shut rampart]

well im getting the 6700xt I guess

or waiting for am5

[fossil cedar]

Would either get g5 for 60$ or this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dJmFf7/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-1

[fossil cedar]

I'd wait for rx 7000 or rtx 40 series

[shut rampart]

ok

[mossy venture]

Nzxt c same price

2022

[shut rampart]

I will just go for the 750w one

[fossil cedar]

C 2022 is speculative tho

[violet pebble]

Can’t cuz not high enough lvl

[mossy venture]

So is gf1

I trust nzxt psus more than Thermaltake

They have a better history with them

Cough cough Thermaltake smart

[fossil cedar]

Oh right

[mossy venture]

I also think warranty is longer, though that's not as important since they're both unlikely to catch fire

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[stoic island]

Pcpp should be whitelisted

[echo wyvern]

Been building systems for years and hit a snag today that has me curious. I always get the graphics CPU, regardless if I use video cards, for emergency purposes. Because the sale limits the CPU to one, in order to build my two kids new gaming systems this Xmas, ended up ordering 1 LGA1700KF and 1 LGA1700K CPU. Already have RTX 2060 12gb cards. Will it matter with the Aorus Master LGA1700 mother board if the CPU is K or KF?

[desert gulch]

What cpus are they?

Lga1700 is just the physical socket size

[echo wyvern]

I7

[desert gulch]

Alright

[fossil cedar]

12700? You'll be fine ye

[desert gulch]

Z690 I'm guessing?

[echo wyvern]

Yes. Z690

[desert gulch]

Yeah you're fully good

No compatibility problems there

[fossil cedar]

And since you will have one f and one non f you can always swap if you need to troubleshoot

[desert gulch]

Yup

[echo wyvern]

I own the first model Z390, and was first time I switched from using only ASUS. The model I have now, has had the annoying issue of blue screening when installing off a eifi thumb drive or NVME, windows 10. Used macrium Reflect to put the os image on for the older model, but see the newest one I'm getting, doesn't have that problem anymore.

[empty pollen]

never use only one brand, brands can have good models and bad models, luckily the bois around here can help you with that 😄

[echo wyvern]

Only reason I broke 20 years of ASUS only motherboards, was the grief I went through with their Nexus tablets. I was so raging that day, that when I was ordering for my wife's and my new builds in 2021, saw the motherboard. Which reminds me. Does the Z690 have better bios settings that allow a WiFi card and NVME to share the same bus? The z390 didn't have a setting so had to change to different pciexpress slot for the Wi-Fi card, in order for it to work. Sort of reminded me of the old MSDOS days of IRQ conflicts when adding a sound blaster pro awe6400 and Rolandmt32 interface card.

[jagged ember]

As far as I understand no, you’ll still need to use a different PCIE slot

I’d look through the manual of the exact motherboard model to be sure though

[echo wyvern]

When I rebuilt the two systems last year, I got my pro licenses to transfer by starting up the new system with the old GPU, hard drives same order, and wifi card. When it transfered, then I put the new RTX and NVME in. My god, ever since I got used to the Sabrent rocket, then Kingston fury NVME, I just can't use my spindle drives for my game servers. Think I might shell out for new pro licenses for my kids systems. More worried of trying same thing this year, it failing, then new licenses not working due to Microsoft recording all the new parts. Except for my family's laptops, every desktop we have, been running off free upgrades I got from my old technet subscription. So sad that was ended. Was quite handy.

[echo wyvern]

One thing I notice about Gigabyte and their motherboards, they don't update their Manuel's once printed. When I got the Z390, their DDR4 ram list was obsolete, as the brands and models they showed, were already discontinued. Ram I just ordered for the Z690, is new, and only reason Im risking it, Newegg is giving a free 2TB NVME with 5000mbps read, and 4000mbps write speeds when you get the 32gb rgb memory kit

Brb

Actually, before I run for a few minutes, had a question about this discords rules about no links. Is posting a Newegg Link at least allowed when you want to show something?

[desert gulch]

Oh for sure yeah

[echo wyvern]

Thanks. I type a lot, but my god if I was forced to type the stats of every part I had a question for, my fingers would fall off 😂

[desert gulch]

Lol

Yeah, Amazon links, Newegg links, links actually half relevant to PC part stuff always allowed

Youll be limited to only a few websites you can post links here until you level up to lvl3 (basically just talking in here like normal for a bit)

[echo wyvern]

I tend to only stick with a company's own links. It would just feel wierd posting another's, unless it was one of neweggs vendors. Sort of like running an Ultima Online developer chat to 2000+ people, and accidentally posting a link to Final Fantasy online, which once happened in 2002. Just glad it wasn't me who did it lol.

[desert gulch]

Lol

[white wharf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ztrrwc - thoughts?

[stoic island]

god damn 212 is 110$ now?

[desert gulch]

i guess im selling mine for $100 used then

[stoic island]

ick pcpp is being weird with z690-a

pointing towards a bios version that doesn't exist

[stoic island]

would rather do something like
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y7bKNc

Dunno why pcpp is yelling at z690-a to get a bios that doesn't even exist

[white wharf]

thank you! question on the choice of ram? this is my first time building so i dont know the differene or what to look for there

[stoic island]

Double the ram, 30$ more

[white wharf]

oooooh didnt notice that!

[stoic island]

It's just a better deal for the same specs

[white wharf]

sweet 🙂

and can you educate me on the difference between the motherboards?

[stoic island]

I chose p41 for the drive for fun, you can get away with like a mp33 and save 50$, or go with like a sn770 at 100$ if you want

[stoic island]

Basically, both boards are great, tomahawk is just a bit more overkill, and I don't think that's worth the extra price.

[echo wyvern]

It may be a driver it needs or a setting that's off. I was going nuts why my z390 kept losing it's PTT setting, causing windows 11 to fail loading, to find out there was another button cell under my RTX. The NVME cover and card hid the 2032 from view.

[white wharf]

i see, thanks a bunch!

[stoic island]

dead cmos battery?

[stoic island]

You're welcome

[echo wyvern]

Don't jump on anything unless the price is a big drop. Ever since the Cryptocurrency crash two weeks ago, many new miners jumped ship to sell off their rigs to recoup their losses, which flooded eBay with equipment I'd never risk buying, unless a very new model. I'd be worried that a 24gb RTX was on its last legs. Prices dropped a lot, and still falling. Fact Newegg is giving a decent 2tb NVME away with ram order, clearly shows it's going to be a good year to get some great deals. I just spent $1600 for two full builds. two months ago it would cost me $3400+

[stoic island]

???

[echo wyvern]

Lol, just realized your sad face is in your name.

[stoic island]

Yes.?

[echo wyvern]

Oh, I thought I was replying to Chris. Sorry about that.

[stoic island]

It's always if you can wait a few months, wait a few months and see, but if you want to build something now, it's not a bad time, decent prices.

[echo wyvern]

If your looking for a new build, don't go cheap, unless it's a good part. I like building my systems compared to the all in ones for expandability, plus I try to go with latest, or close to latest model parts so the system can last years, and not get outdated fast. A serious game player shouldn't get a all in one system, mainly because they tend to only have 1 or 2 if your lucky, expansion slots.

[stoic island]

tis not an aio

list is above

[echo wyvern]

I wouldn't wait till next year to build a new system, as the market right now clearly shows the huge price drops. With Xmas around the corner, those prices could go up

[white wharf]

what do you mean by all in one?

[stoic island]

PC built into monitor, usually like dell stuff

[white wharf]

ahhh right

[echo wyvern]

Ever go to Best Buy or a computer store and see a mid tower like Acer or HP that has built in RTX for $800+, a mid tower?

[white wharf]

when i was searching for pre-builts at first i seen something similar i think?

[echo wyvern]

When I say all in one, I keep forgetting about the ones with moniter. Basically, all the hardware is built into the motherboard so only thing you need to buy is a moniter

[stoic island]

...?

Prebuilts don't have parts soldered on, it's just normal hardware...?

Or are you talking about NUCs?

[empty pollen]

👀

all in ones that i know are usually imacs

pretty but i prefer the flexibility of diy systems

[white wharf]

nucs are those super small pcs similar to a mac mini?

[empty pollen]

nucs are like the size of a shoe box

a cube-like thing

[echo wyvern]

If you want a good gaming system, it's better to choose a good motherboard, CPU, Ram, and an NVME, and move your spindles from old system. You can even possibly trick the system sometimes into transferring your old windows license, to new system . Sadly, the pre built systems with their own version of windows like HP, Acer, Dell, that trick won't work for

[stoic island]

Yea

[white wharf]

ah i see

[empty pollen]

prebuilts aint that bad, just need a bit of research to get a good one at a good price 😛

[stoic island]

other than dell and hp, most use conventional hardware

screw dell and hp

[white wharf]

i second that

[empty pollen]

diy on the other hand offers you the thrill of the assembly part

[stoic island]

Their consumer PCs are just kinda bad, their server stuff are good

[empty pollen]

my pc is an hp 😦 prodesk 400g1

heavily modded ofc 😛

[desert gulch]

"kinda bad", thats a compliment

[white wharf]

yes, this would be my first time 😄

[stoic island]

I dislike them more than nzxt, how about that

[empty pollen]

thats a compliment

[white wharf]

trying to move away from my current hp and build one for gaming and developing

[stoic island]

you know how much I hate nzxt

[empty pollen]

deep in the membrane i know

[white wharf]

gonna be so nice when i have one piece of equipment rather than a gaming console, light use pc AND workstation 😭

[stoic island]

Gonna be fun

game while in a zoom meeting :D

[echo wyvern]

The only thing I use a prebuilt for, is emergency restore or virus checking my drives from other computers. You can't really upgrade a prebuilt system. Let's say a new graphics card comes out following year. You have a much better chance of the new card working on the system you built, then it working on a prebuilt system .

[stoic island]

depends

[white wharf]

lol its a big step for me...playstation all my life xD

just doesnt make sense to have a (now ps5) anymore

https://www.cdw.com/product/corsair-4000d-airflow-tower-atx/6379984?cm_ven=acquirgy&cm_cat=google&cm_pla=NA-NA-Corsair_CE&cm_ite=6379984&ef_id=CjwKCAjwgaeYBhBAEiwAvMgp2r1oY_QgPV8J7PYrYO8KosSIc3bt9s1dYdR1OiFV0Ohx9FYbLztjZxoC_XcQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!4223!3!350641042702!!!g!338775811111!!1939286355!74343659927&gclid=CjwKCAjwgaeYBhBAEiwAvMgp2r1oY_QgPV8J7PYrYO8KosSIc3bt9s1dYdR1OiFV0Ohx9FYbLztjZxoC_XcQAvD_BwE

what do yall think of this case

[desert gulch]

fine enough case but not great value

[echo wyvern]

I have the original play station, game shark, and Lunar I and II. Lunar series for both Sega CD and PSX are my favorite console game. For computer, my favorite RPG was the Ultima series, not to be confused with Ultima Online. Final Fantasy actually built their rpg using Richard Garriotts pre defined graphics system, and enhanced it over the years. I used to love both Ultima and Final Fantasy, till both companies made it look like Doom.

[white wharf]

im mostly looking at the colors...i'm thinking of throwing some green/blue in there and that popped up lol

[violet pebble]

Sorry, wdym by that

[echo wyvern]

Chris, if your PS5 has an NVME, you can always put it in your new PC build.

[white wharf]

i like the case you swapped out, but wondering if its possible to edit the colors or are they preset?

[white wharf]

probably gonna sell it for higher than retail while its still outta stock xD

[hexed stump]

so i rn i have an elienware auroa ryzen 10 pc and im looking for an upgrade, i still wanna use some of the part like the gpu and cpu but want to try to get new ram and storage and stuff. is it possible to reuse the cpu and gpu if i put them in a new build?

[desert gulch]

this case?

[white wharf]

yes

[desert gulch]

yeah you can control the colors and set them at whatever you want

[white wharf]

oooooh

sweet!

[echo wyvern]

The RGB? If the case says addressable, they can be changed with the motherboard, otherwise it's a remote.

When I shop cases, I myself look for ones that can support an internal CD ROM since I own over 12,000 cds and DVDs combined. Trying to find a glass case that also supports an internal CD ROM is hard as heck.

[white wharf]

gonna look sick matched up to my keyboard and mouse

[violet pebble]

Bro my build price is going up and up

[stoic island]

you should be able to send pcpartpicker.com links

[echo wyvern]

Chris, I just bought parts to build my kids new computers for Xmas. Are you looking to build a new computer with all new parts, or do you already own NVME, RTX, DDR 4 or DDR 5 ram?

[violet pebble]

Ohhh

[echo wyvern]

OMG, I turned green with envy 😦

[white wharf]

all new

[violet pebble]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bPTJNc

It’s so expensive

[empty pollen]

awful as well

[violet pebble]

But I’ll be trying to get deals on them on Black Friday

[violet pebble]

Rly? What’s wrong with it?

[empty pollen]

why ddr5? you can get 32gig fo superior ddr4 for the same price

if you are gaming only you can get away with a 12400f and a 660 mobo instead

no need to go for a k version unless ocing

[echo wyvern]

Best gaming system, would be Motherboard, CPU 10 cores plus, 32 gb ram, and 2TB NVME. I'd get only one 8tb spindle drive and keep it offline, for games that don't run well with NVME. I find keeping a spindle online when not is use, tends to drag my computers speeds down.

[empty pollen]

you can save money on those parts for a better gpu

[empty pollen]

10 cores is overkill for a gaming system

most games run on 4 cores, the more demanding on 6

more than 6 are for application usage, like video editing or cad

cpu is the more easy part to overspend money on a gaming system

[echo wyvern]

Ravel, I run ServeUO, rAythena, and Starbound 24/7 on my server, with no lag, unless I get a hoarder with 50+ chests with 400 slots each.

If anything at least 8 cores.

[empty pollen]

you are talking about a server now

and running multiple games at the same time

thats an entirely different scenario

running 3 games at the same time is not a normal gaming scenario

[echo wyvern]

I do serious gaming where I like to control the rules, and not deal with GMs with attitudes. I just hate getting stuck behind a pay wall. That's why I run my own servers. Kept my kids safe from predators too.

[empty pollen]

and that i understand, but saying that 8 cores is the minimum for the best gaming system is not true

as i said, 4 cores is enough for most games and the more demanding can reach 6... unless one of those games is star citizen e_e

[echo wyvern]

Look me up on Steam lol. Nothing I do is normal.

[violet pebble]

Yea I won’t have 3 games open

It will be for streaming tho

So yea

[echo wyvern]

As I said earlier, it's not good to just buy cheap. Just because you don't need 8 cores now, doesn't mean you won't need it lator. It's Important when investing money into a new build, to buy expanded, so your not outdated a year lator.

I'd rather spend an extra $200 for 12 cores now, then buy a 4 core system, and find out following year I can't play my favorite game because it requires 6.

If you get married an buy a home, you going to buy a one bedroom home or buy a two or three in case you decide you want kids later? Building a new PC, it's good to get better, even if you don't need it now.

[gentle pollen]

Finally someone who gets it.

[empty pollen]

you are us? how much is your budget?

[violet pebble]

$1000

Keep in mind

[echo wyvern]

Electronic Arts Earth and Beyond failed, because they didn't think ahead on the upcoming standards, and no one could run the game.

[violet pebble]

That I’m getting it on Black Friday and Cyber Monday

[empty pollen]

monitor included?

[violet pebble]

Yep everything

Speaking about the sales, which items don’t go on sale

If any

[echo wyvern]

I wouldn't say that. I purchased the 1TB Rocket NVME last year for $499. Wanted to cry when I saw it at $130 yesterday.

[violet pebble]

That’s why I’m waiting for Black Friday and Cyber Monday

Also

Which will likely get a sale on BF and which on CM

[echo wyvern]

I don't feel to bad since I got a few Kingston 2TB fury NVME at $218 each last week. 7300mbps read, and 7100mbps write.

Nerdray, you getting prebuilt, or buying the parts to build your own?

[violet pebble]

Buying parts

Because prebuilts are more expensive, right?

[echo wyvern]

No, they aren't too upgradable.

Two things to avoid, don't buy used graphic cards or used drives which tend to have the label Renewed. I'd suggest if you see a price drop, like a 2tb NVME with 5000+Mbps read/write speeds at $99 new, get the part.

[gentle pollen]

Depends on when and where you shop it from.

[echo wyvern]

As I mentioned earlier, Newegg has it right now, if you buy certain DDR5 32gb ram today, you get a free 2TB NVME free.

Brb, getting link.

[potent portal]

Used GPUs are fine in my experience, you just need to weed out the scams

[earnest olive]

ask for part lists at that time then

recommending parts now is useless

[potent portal]

It's going to be another "cyber week" this year I'm sure

[earnest olive]

either way, IME black friday/cyber monday don't do much for PC component prices

[echo wyvern]

Used GPUs scare me, because you never know if a owner has lowered it's life mining.

[earnest olive]

it's more for prebuilts/laptops

[empty pollen]

hard to fit a monitor in a 1k build

[earnest olive]

no?

[empty pollen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6GKpVw an early sketch

you guys are free to make corrections there

D:

[echo wyvern]

Check this out on @royal pelican: Team T-Force Delta RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 5600 (PC5 44800) Intel XMP 3.0 Desktop Memory Model FF3D532G5600HC36BDC01 https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb/p/N82E16820331836?Item=N82E16820331836&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-331-836-_-08272022

[earnest olive]

that's quite a bit over budget

either way

like i said

it's completely pointless to make a list now

13th gen will be out by the time he's buying parts lol

[empty pollen]

oh

well i was trying to fit a monitor into that 1k budget, didnt saw the rest of the chat

😛

oh i see it now

[earnest olive]

just do i3 + h610

swap gpu to nvidia for streaming

[empty pollen]

yeah prices are a bit cuckoo these days, one deal today can be overpriced tomorrow

even worse in a month

same thing applies the other way, things expensive today could be on sale tomorrow

[empty pollen]

yeah that more like it to fit a monitor in a 1k build

something like a 3060 and an i3+610

[echo wyvern]

Everything gets outdated in months. That's why I always say to get higher end when your buying, even if you don't need it now, so your not stuck later when you then don't have the funds to buy the upgrade. I'd rather have to spend $$ two years from now on a new graphics card, then have to spend $1000+ on a complete new build, because saving $200 on getting a 4 core now, resulted in me needing to get an 8 core later.

At least CPUs aren't $1200+ like they were 20 years ago.

[empty pollen]

not everyone have a budget to overspend, thats why the rule is to spend in what you need at the present and not with a "future proofing" in mind, ofc buying parts with room for upgrade

[echo wyvern]

This new (8+4) CPU confuses me lol.

[mossy venture]

Only comment is overkill psu, but I'm sure you know that

[empty pollen]

yes, i was thinking on a 6750 first

then i saw the overbudget

[mossy venture]

6750 fine on 650

[empty pollen]

forgot to swap to a cheaper psu

[mossy venture]

I ran an oced 6800xt on a 650 without issue

[empty pollen]

oh

[echo wyvern]

What ever happened to that 30 core CPU AMD bragged about 2 years ago.

[empty pollen]

i was thinking in 6700 good on 650 and everything higher on 750

nice to know, noted

[empty pollen]

they do exists, in the form of threadripper units

[echo wyvern]

I saw the $6,000 price tag when it was announced, and couldn't think of anything, even 10 years lator that would benefit using such a CPU. That's overkill. Even for a big company. My opinion anyways heh.

[mossy venture]

Have you heard of the 3995wx

[empty pollen]

im also not familiar with those server cpus 😛 maybe they really need such amount of cores 🤨

[mossy venture]

There's use cases for such cpus

Saw someone the other day who needed to run over 60vms daily

[empty pollen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh8MiNzKkiA

chad use

i need those cores... badly!

[icy crater]

Wtf.

[earnest olive]

"yes mom it's for CS class"

[potent portal]

128c/256t epyc processor time

[celest horizon]

Lol, he did that on a custom program meant to look like task manager, you can tell a few things are off, still very cool though.

I rendered bad apple using theo's face a while ago

[empty pollen]

omg those 2 last pics broke my fragile heart D:

computer on the floor 😢

[desert gulch]

screw your feelings

:dab:

[empty pollen]

to add insult to the injury... on the carpet

D:

poor pc feelings D':

[desert gulch]

its not a big deal, just get over it

[empty pollen]

Happy pc on a smol desk

looking forward to an L desk next month

want to rebuild this pc on its old case to have both (this one and my future rpl/am5 build) on the desk :# along with my 2 monitors

[desert gulch]

The back of that case looks like a Nzxt mobo

[empty pollen]

i wish... thats an 4770 mobo, a proliant 400g1 pc in fact

just in a 5000x case

weird i know

but it was on sale locally and i bought it in preparation for the rpl/am5 build

[desert gulch]

Atleast you won't need to upgrade case for a long time

Yeah exactly

[empty pollen]

Ye ol case

[desert gulch]

And then, after you sell your kidney and liver for a new PC, you'll still only use it for discord, lol

[empty pollen]

exactly

[desert gulch]

I mean, what else do you do after taking out a loan for a nice PC?

I'm on discord like 50% with mine lmao

Probs game 20%

[empty pollen]

yeah like that, only use it for classes and the casual steam games with friends

at least is not a loan

1.8k saved on the swear jar

probably 2 grand by November when i expect availability for the new gen will be at reach

im guessing rpl and am5 will be scalped the first month at least

[desert gulch]

Maybe

Ez life hack, just buy my scalped am4 stuff

I'll "give" it to your for 500% msrp

Huge deal here

Not against the rules either since rules only say no selling, not that I can't literally scam the hell out of you

[empty pollen]

sounds intriguing

still i will try to get my hands on the last gen stuff, to avoid updating the pc for the next 7 years at least

😛

on am4 its like 4 years already dead xD

probably i will end up buying a similar pc as bacca, he is on the same boat as me anyway... waiting the new gen to build his pc

stealing his idea hehehe

[solemn rampart]

imagine running a 1060 and a 6500 in the same pc at the same time, couldn't be me

[violet pebble]

Some of the CPUs that I found

[mossy venture]

You in the US?

[violet pebble]

Yep

[mossy venture]

Out of those, 12600kf all the way

You making a new build or just upgrading?

[violet pebble]

New build

[ornate condor]

12600kf is best value there I think

[mossy venture]

What's your budget?

[high yew]

didn’t know news and interests takes up 16gb of memory

oh sorry, 18gb

[violet pebble]

$1000

[ornate condor]

16gb useles anymore

[mossy venture]

12600kf a bit too expensive for that budget, one second

[violet pebble]

But I’m getting the items of BF and CM

@mossy venture

[high yew]

i have 32😎still taking up 100% capacity tho lmao

[ornate condor]

same

[dusk ginkgo]

im packing heat with my gt 430 🥶 🥶 🥶 💀

[ornate condor]

cant upgrade to 64gb couse 4x32gb ddr5 sux

[mossy venture]

Then prices right now don't matter

[dusk ginkgo]

jk i know its ass, its my back up card

[mossy venture]

New parts will be out by then

[violet pebble]

What new parts are going to be out

[mossy venture]

Cpus, possibly some gpus

[violet pebble]

Alr

So just wait

What about Motherboards

[mossy venture]

Same thing

[potent portal]

You must have a lot of interests

[high yew]

don't ever open it or anything, just sits there. was never a problem until today

[mossy venture]

Happened to my friend the other day

[potent portal]

But fr it's well documented with that memory leak. I uninstall all the apps I don't use.

[mossy venture]

Valorant was getting like 6 fps because news and interests was hogging ram

[high yew]

yeah im gonna go through all the apps right away and uninstall all of em that i dont use. can news and interests be uninstalled via store or do i gotta do that through the registry?

[potent portal]

You can do it from the programs list

[long rock]

Is it too busy in here too?

Guess everyone went to bed 🤣

[empty pollen]

when one of us go to bed another wakes up

in any case there is enough people around at any given time to lend a helping hand with any question 🙂

ofc if they do it in a respectfully way

[long rock]

Well, im trying to set my new ARGB controller up and noticed my molex cable lol, apparently there should be a place on my power supply to plug it in, but i dont see one

[empty pollen]

what psu do you own?

[long rock]

The EVGA 600BQ

Nice unit, I still have Perf 1 and Sata open, is there an adapter cable i could buy perhaps?

[empty pollen]

you should have a perif 1 cable with molex terminals

one like this

[long rock]

Lemme hunt around some more

[empty pollen]

when you find it, then plug it in the perif 1 socket of your psu

[long rock]

Ive seen those before i think, cant remember what i did with them

Grrrr

What happened to those damn things

[empty pollen]

take your time, worst case scenario is to contact evga for a replacement cable for your unit or getting a sata-to-molex adapter

dont try to fit a cable meant for another psu, you can run into a hazardous situation mixing psu cables

[long rock]

Ighty

Yeah im not rushed

[empty pollen]

If for some reason you cant find it, then you can get away buying an adapter like this

male sata to female molex

should be like 5 bucks or so

that way you can use a free sata connector from your psu cables to power up your led strip

[mossy venture]

ooh, 6800xt build for under $1200 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BCGP78

[obsidian wigeon]

pog

tho imo i would wait for 13500 or 13400

[empty pollen]

and its a very powerful one i might add

i will use it as a template to help others hehehe 😎

[limpid charm]

my pc wont turn on

☠️

[dusk ginkgo]

I have chills down my spine having to remember mainstream stuff using molex

[jagged hill]

what did you forgor

[frank stirrup]

molex to sata lose all your data

[empty pollen]

he needs it to power a molex argb strip

he dont have the perif1 cable from his psu

[frank stirrup]

molex to sata lose all ur rgbs

[empty pollen]

really? noted

[leaden mauve]

yea those are the bad ones.

lemme find you the good adapters

https://www.ebay.com/itm/195022478599

you see the difference in how it connects to the sata connector?

[frank stirrup]

yep i just personally would never convery molex to sata

[empty pollen]

well time to warn him

[empty pollen]

do not use the molex adapter, i was informed of the rgb loss on your strip if you use this

just look for your perif1 cable or ask evga for a replacement cable 🙂

[frank stirrup]

molex itself was decent, but manus cheaped out too much and made it problematic

[empty pollen]

sad to hear that, adapters are always handy

[leaden mauve]

@empty pollen Those molex adapters I linked are fine for non-professional use.

@long rock https://www.ebay.com/itm/195022478599

[jagged ember]

ew molex

[leaden mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-naoki-urasawa-heinrich-lunge-anime-gif-22231212

[frank stirrup]

Molex was actually a really really good connector, its just that the manufacturers cheaped out on it wayyyy too much to make it cheaper to make, which gave it all its issues

connector itself is pretty good

[celest horizon]

Molex is a terrible connector

[frank stirrup]

I disagree

[celest horizon]

They should've used a mini fit jr plug lol

[empty pollen]

so whos connecting who anyway?

👀

[frank stirrup]

I mean true but molex was good for when it came out

[celest horizon]

So was tetraethyl lead

And yet both cause cancer

[frank stirrup]

molex was more due to manus cheaping out then well being actually cancerous

[limpid charm]

i forgor cpu ☠️

[frank stirrup]

💀

[limpid charm]

chill it my first pc

[frank stirrup]

well ok but how do you just leave the entire top middle part of the motherboard empty without realising

[leaden mauve]

💀

[limpid charm]

i put the cooler thing

its from nzxt

[frank stirrup]

how did u put on the entire cooler without realising there was nothing under it...

[limpid charm]

omg💀

i forgot the power supple thing

i thought u were supposed to connect to motherboard

[frank stirrup]

ohhhhhhhhhh

i thought u forgor the entire cpu

btw u did take off the platic from the cooler right?

[strong raft]

btw X79X99.... this no worky.

[leaden mauve]

What's your point?

[strong raft]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-jerry-seinfeld-im-leaving-good-bye-got-to-go-gif-4515153

[leaden mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-naoki-urasawa-heinrich-lunge-anime-gif-22231212

[strong raft]

Can't hurt what isn't there. btw the point what was the point of linking some crap that doesn't work for GM2Ton

[dim forge]

how bad/good is this board

[leaden mauve]

it does though...

it's not a sata to molex adapter, it's a molex to sata adapter lol

[strong raft]

w/e. @long rock if you really need to, could get something like this: (specific to your psu) https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=W001-00-000137

[echo wyvern]

Can't say I have, why?

Btw, how does one get their name in Lavender, instead of green?

[strong raft]

Click on someones name and see their roles. Nitro role overrides the color of other roles for non-mods.

[little osprey]

bruh just read one message up, I was asking for help with an m-atx build n got sent an itx list

[hexed stump]

does anyone know if its possible to add more storage to an alienware pc

[analog hearth]

Probably. What's the Alienware model?

[hexed stump]

alienware aurora ryzen

10 i think

[analog hearth]

I wouldn't know how to open it. But, if you can get it open, it should be simple enough to get a new and bigger drive and plop it in

[obsidian wigeon]

it probably has no extra storage slot for anything

[glacial basin]

so i want to get into the PC world, thinking of getting a desktop from around £1000-£1800 which will be future proof and upgradeable. Would like it to be fairly modern with 32-64GB RAM aswell as maybe a 3080? The problem is i dont have a clue how to build custom PC's but been thinking of getting one for a while.

[stoic island]

Should be fun

[fossil cedar]

i would not go 64gb for gaming, can actively hurt performance

its also kinda hard to future proof especially now since next gen cpus and gpus will be out in like a month or so

[empty pollen]

what you think about this one pato https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/GNMFY9

btw morning guys 🙂

[fossil cedar]

mmmmm

i would change a few things

[empty pollen]

feel free to do it, was a rough sketch

[stoic island]

I did smth quick for fun
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/R2dqwc

[fossil cedar]

but tbh i would wait for next gen (1-2 months) if you wanna future proof although if you dont wanna wait

[empty pollen]

yeah thought on the vengeance as well but... c*rsair

[fossil cedar]

corsair ram is good when its literally the cheapest

[empty pollen]

like no rgb

[desert gulch]

wait till you find out that JG usually runs corsair and has never had an issue with it

[stoic island]

he works for corsair ofc he'd say that

[desert gulch]

xD hes an open book

[stoic island]

not when hes being paid

[desert gulch]

xD

also, my power just went out and windows started doing updates i had put off when i turned pc back on

[fossil cedar]

id do this https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/9hfpVw

[calm ocean]

Hey guys! im building a pc and im wondering what to do when im done building it, when everythings done do i just turn it on and go about my day or is there anything i have to do specificlly in bios

[potent portal]

Default values are fine for most people in bios. You can install a couple free benchmarks to see if everything is running as expected, like time spy demo and cinebench. Then you can see how hot it can get too.

[earnest olive]

would recommend turning on xmp

[cyan ravine]

Turning your aio pump speed to max in the fan settings also completely worth doing (if you have one)

[little osprey]

Hey guys quick question: my friend has me all freaked out now about building my pc on Tuesday without a static discharge mat. I'd be off the ground on a small desk, but do you guys think I should get one?

I wouldn't be working on the floor and I haven't had static shock encounters in my carpeted bedroom before, but I'm all paranoid about burning out an expensive PC part

[mossy venture]

ive done stuff to my pc with it sitting on my bed

you're fine

that came out wrong

[little osprey]

Lmao

OK thank you. I was honestly just going to sit on my bed and build the whole thing anyway

[mossy venture]

i mean, i wouldn't rest parts on your bed

not directly anyways

[little osprey]

I wouldn't. I'd keep everything in a box until needed

[empty pollen]

i just bury my hands on my garden before goin to work on my pc 😄

[little osprey]

Lmao

[empty pollen]

discharged everything, even if is not there

yeah, its weird

[little osprey]

Yeah it's tough to adhere to any strict building rules with this tiny space. I also really don't want to buy a static mat just to use like once

[empty pollen]

no need to

[little osprey]

Theyre like $40+

[empty pollen]

just ground yourself once like touching one of the walls in your house and thats all

and dont work on a carpet just for safety

[little osprey]

Ah easy enough. Yeah I'll be playing the floor is lava once I start on my pc

Still have to muster the attention to watch one of those long building tutorials

[empty pollen]

most of the time building a pc is as simple as reading the manuals

people tend to ignore them while they are extremely useful

they have all the figures and all the procedures step by step down to the screws

[little osprey]

Noted. I've never assembled pc parts before so I'm nervous, but I assume it'll be easy as long as I don't lose any screws.

[empty pollen]

on today's world is even easier.... if in doubt you can always check youtube or ask here for instructions, and most if not all diy parts are standarized and they fit in only one way on the proper connector, you cant mess up a cable unless you really try hard

[empty pollen]

easy as long you use the manual

[cyan ravine]

[strong raft]

There's also many various vids (pov or not) to show exactly 100% of the process. My 1st pc was before I even had internet & was fine. It's like legos w/ bigger pieces and some wires. Psu itself is labeled especially well. Plus there's various pics to help... (I have a good collection from a few servers)

[little osprey]

Oh I plan to.

[empty pollen]

a particular mistake i read a lot lately here is the wrong direction of the 4+4 eps and 6+2 pcie cables from the psu

have that in mind

4+4 and 6+2 are meant for the pc, not for the psu

[mossy venture]

just be careful, follow a tutorial

don't plug any positives into any negatives

saw that on reddit earlier

someone fried their mobo by doing that

[little osprey]

Ooooh this helps a lot! Doesn't seem too difficult. I assume motherboard is always first to be put together and go in, then SSD, the CPU, RAM, etc.

[mossy venture]

robeytech does multiple builds a day, he does them pretty slow (like, one stream is a few hours long)

[empty pollen]

yup, is a common mistake for not reading the manuals, still psu manufacturers should update their psu connectors to avoid that eventuality

[mossy venture]

but if you want to take it slow, could use one of his stream vods

[little osprey]

Noted. I'll go slow to a tutorial as well

[mossy venture]

was case power actually

[empty pollen]

for your first pc you ideally schedule a whole day to make it as slow and safe as possible

[empty pollen]

so he plugged the 2 on/off pins on another header?

or he messed up the 24 pin?

[mossy venture]

smthn like that

[empty pollen]

auch

[mossy venture]

i didn't even know what happened, a diff commentor said it and a few others agreed with him

mobo was smoking

whats worse is he tried to turn it on multiple times after that

[little osprey]

How long does it usually take? I will have all of Tuesday off, but I'm curious

[strong raft]

A day, max. Pwr button bridges 2 pins so probably shorted something bad, yea.-- here's another applicable pic. Edit: forgot this wasn't my cropped pic, oh well.

[little osprey]

Oh no...

[stoic island]

actually building, prob an hour max, but troubleshooting, you'll want a few hours just in case

[mossy venture]

few hours, if you're going super slow

[empty pollen]

im on the few hours as well

at least for first timers

[mossy venture]

I'd recommend taking it as slow as possible to make sure you do everything right

[empty pollen]

experienced ones usually make it in an hour

[little osprey]

Eh that's not bad. I'll definitely go slow.

[stoic island]

I mean, streamers and such usually go for cable management and all

[mossy venture]

better to do it slow and correct, than either break something or spend 3 hours trying to find something you messed up

[stoic island]

don't really need to do that

[mossy venture]

true

[stoic island]

But I think closer to 1hr should be reasonable

[mossy venture]

I'm doing my first build myself in month or so

[empty pollen]

the usb 3.1 front header has the nasty habit to break easily

[mossy venture]

I'll definitely be taking my time

[stoic island]

24pin is a piece of crap

other than that most things are simple

[mossy venture]

I'm terrified of the cables aspect, that's what scared me into paying for someone else to build for me the first time

[stoic island]

why

don't be

[mossy venture]

but I know a ton more about pcs now than i used to

[empty pollen]

that will be my second as well, my sister pc was my first build.... took me like2 to 3 hours by taking it slowly + 2 more hours for cable management and software installation

[strong raft]

Behold, chumps. (Not mine)

[empty pollen]

basically my sis pc was my initiation, to see if all i learned was useful, and oh boy, it was

[stoic island]

btw it takes quite unrealistic amounts of static electricity to kill parts
https://youtu.be/nXkgbmr3dRA

[mossy venture]

lol. my dad was super into pcs years and years ago

I touched a motherboard with my bare hands and he thought i fried it

[empty pollen]

still i hesitate a lot on the cpu socket, checking like 5 times the witness mark before putting the cpu

[strong raft]

Same, my dad is a pc tech & basically got me into pcs and I started a sub to maximumpc (old good magazine)@mossy venture

[empty pollen]

thinking "if i mess this up bye bye pins"

[mossy venture]

my dads pc knowledge is very outdated

[empty pollen]

check and double check and triple check

[mossy venture]

like, when igpus were built into motherboards

i think the last pc he built was early 2000s

I'm the resident pc nerd of our house

[empty pollen]

yeah in way, that raptor lake we are goin to build should be our "magnus opus"

at least it will be for me

i will take it as slow as possible... super sloooow

[mossy venture]

mhm

i also hope my aio is fine after sitting in a corner for like 5 months

[empty pollen]

if it worked the frist time then it should be fine 😄

stress point is the pump and it was inactive all this time

[mossy venture]

well if im being honest

i was lazy and didn't test it, but it has a warranty with evga anyways

if it is broken, I can just rma it

[empty pollen]

true

[mossy venture]

tbh I'd rather just buy a pa120 than use an aio

[empty pollen]

however you can save time by testing it before the rest of the parrts arrive

[mossy venture]

simpler

[empty pollen]

is just a simple header, no need to check fans

[mossy venture]

depending on cpu I buy, might just use the 224xt in my current build

[empty pollen]

if it spins, good enough

224xt at least, i have a stock 4th gen intel cooler 😛

[strong raft]

I'm tempting to temporarily slap my FS140 onto 3770, but it's the nonK xeon cousin so pointless.

[empty pollen]

its basically a toy

yeah no point,

they barely make any heat, stock fans are good enough, my 4770 is ok on the stock cooler as well

good ol and trusty haswell, strong and steady thru all these years... which take me into other question

cpus die of old age?

i mean, you can kill it with abuse and terrible choices, but what about a normal and non abusive use over the years?

[viral ore]

nope

[empty pollen]

when the time comes i will reuse the 4770 as a nas for the rest of the house (and its life)

will be a cozy retirement for it

with the 750ti

that one, a warrior as well

[lime condor]

can someone help me make a pc under hkd 8000 and also a screen keyboard and mouse for under 2000 hkd

[little osprey]

Noted, thank you! I'm saving this video for sure

[little osprey]

Beautiful

[versed sleet]

Hey guys I’m looking for a pc for gaming and studying. Should build one or buy a pre build one? Any suggestions

[mossy venture]

If you're comfortable building one, it would be better

[gentle pollen]

[gentle pollen]

Lmao, I remember this video. Watched it like a week ago and damn I was impressed by how sturdy ram sticks, mobos, etc are.

Stilll better safe then sorry though.

[potent portal]

ESD used to be a much bigger issue way back when

These days I work on my PC with socks on carpet and no wrist strap 😂

[obsidian wigeon]

esd is a non issue nowadays

you can even just wipe a mobo down with a rag and it'll be fine

or use a soft bristle brush

[potent portal]

If it's not powered on and you dry it off immediately sure

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

i make sure to always unplug psu from power source

and press power button on the case a few times

[white wharf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/infrach/saved/wvR9CJ - so close to finishing my first build...only thing thats left is the cooler. not sure what do get thats compatible?

[mossy venture]

Liquid freezer ii 280-360, ek aio, lian li galahad

[white wharf]

https://www.amazon.com/EK-EK-Vardar-High-Performance-Cooling-Computer/dp/B08WCQBG4Y/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2FIAOY67SXUO2&keywords=ek+aio+1700&qid=1661742212&sprefix=ek+aio+1700%2Caps%2C84&sr=8-1-spons&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyQkNaVENRUk5VUE82JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDAxMzM0MlY4M0Q2WFhOOVk2QiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDMyNTA0MTVJTElYQkk4OE00JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== - like this?

wait i dont see 1700

[mossy venture]

Mhm

Thanks autocorrect

[white wharf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/infrach/saved/wvR9CJ

thanks! that was the final part i needed. 🙂

[mossy venture]

I'd get the p41 2tb instead if that ssd

It's the best gen 4 and the same price rn

Only other thing is phanteks amp 1000w is cheaper rn and same quality

Other than that looks pretty good

[white wharf]

sweet, let me try and swap em

[mossy venture]

Assuming you plan to cpu oc anyways

If not 12700f and b660 would perform the same

[white wharf]

yeah, i wanna OC haha

[mossy venture]

Cool cool, looks good then

If you want to ram tune might be better to get a diff 3600c18 kit, corsair ram kinda meh

[white wharf]

what do you recommend?

[mossy venture]

There's a teamgroup 3600c18 kit for $90 rn

Oh wait

Might not be teamvroup, one sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PJ6qqs/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-z-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tlzgd432g3600hc18jdc01

Or if you want rgb there is a diff teamgroup same spec kit for $110

[white wharf]

fan of blacked out, but i might throw in lightstrips to light up the edges since its tempered glass

gonna swap the ram

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/infrach/saved/wvR9CJ - done!

thanks a bunch

[formal girder]

Man that is a glory rig

[marsh adder]

Hey, I'm building a PC with a friend and the GPU fans are not spinning.

I'm suspecting it's an issue with compatibility between the 5900X and the Gigabyte B450M mobo. Does it need a BIOS update to run the CPU?

We tried booting it without the GPU installed, but there's no video out of the motherboard's HDMI port.

[mossy venture]

Gpu fans don't spin until needed

But yes, a b450 will need a bios update

There's really not many b450s I'd even run a 5900x on

[fossil cedar]

Could be a b450 aorus master or something

[mossy venture]

Imagine ds3h

[fossil cedar]

Oh god

[fossil cedar]

Wanna guess what pbo 3600 for 1hr p95 vrm temps are on that

In like 18-22c ambient

[mossy venture]

Hmm

I'll guess 92

[frank stirrup]

im gonna say 92

[cyan ravine]

Fan or no fan on vrm

Me say 98

Good year

[marsh adder]

It's a ds3h v2...

From Gigabyte.

Will it run if we update the BIOS using an older CPU?

[frank stirrup]

nothing wrong with gigabyte

[marsh adder]

My friend says she wants to cry lol

[frank stirrup]

why?

[marsh adder]

We're building it for university and it starts soon :/

[frank stirrup]

building what

what cpu and board

[marsh adder]

.

[frank stirrup]

bro

the board

[marsh adder]

Gigabyte B450M

[frank stirrup]

will die itself

on a 5900x

[marsh adder]

What color??

[frank stirrup]

no

it will die

[cyan ravine]

[frank stirrup]

unalive

[marsh adder]

Oh no not unaliving that sounds bad.

[cyan ravine]

Where's that gif

[frank stirrup]

alive'nt

[marsh adder]

How come?

Can I make it aliven'tn't?

[frank stirrup]

Its a bottom tier last gen board

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

[frank stirrup]

ur trying to run top end current gen cpu on bottom tier last gen board

[marsh adder]

We chose it for the amount of USB ports and because PCPP said there were no issues...

[frank stirrup]

Well no compatability issue

itll boot

but thats about it

[marsh adder]

What else does it need to do? Booting sounds pretty good.

[frank stirrup]

run apps

and games

[marsh adder]

That seems important.

[frank stirrup]

yes

it is

[marsh adder]

Why can't it run apps and games?

[cyan ravine]

The VRM's are barely built to handle 65W CPU's let alone the brutr force of a 105W/150W/230W one

[frank stirrup]

yep

[marsh adder]

oh I see... peck

[cyan ravine]

It'll burn up and die quiet

[marsh adder]

What should we buy instead? Currently on the metro to a PC parts store.

[cyan ravine]

Depends

Swap the cpu for a 5600 non-X

Or get a decent b550 mobi

[frank stirrup]

ur somewhere in europe right?

[marsh adder]

North of France yes.

Hi, friend here I am literally this close to crying 🤏

[cyan ravine]

Hi friend

[frank stirrup]

b550 aorus elite v2 pretty good price