building-and-recc-chat

[heavy atlas]

thank y’all thank y’all

[untold beacon]

That’s good

No problem

[empty pollen]

np pal

[analog hearth]

ah

i’m too late

[untold beacon]

It’s alright pal nothing to be ashamed of

[heavy atlas]

so that build will run good?

[untold beacon]

Let me take a look

[analog hearth]

where’s the GPU?

[mossy venture]

can get b550 pro vdh wifi if you're not using ethernet

[heavy atlas]

what’s dat ?

[mossy venture]

a motherboard

[untold beacon]

It’s a 6800xt he’s gonna put on there

[mossy venture]

one sec, ima just make a few slight changes

[untold beacon]

Good job Gorf

[mossy venture]

I'd do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8ZD49r

[heavy atlas]

thank you guys sm for helping me out

[untold beacon]

No problem

[mossy venture]

just a few minor changes, mobo includes wifi while also being a bit cheaper

5600 bit cheaper and near identical perf to 5600x

[heavy atlas]

i already own the motherboard ram and cou on my list

cpu*

[untold beacon]

Well

Should have said that before

[mossy venture]

ah

[heavy atlas]

i did

[untold beacon]

But it doesn’t really matter

[mossy venture]

then the first list is fine

no huge differences, still a good build

[untold beacon]

Yeah no biggie

[heavy atlas]

^

[untold beacon]

Wooos

Wooops

[heavy atlas]

u good

[untold beacon]

Guess I didn’t see that

[heavy atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NsBDmr

so this is a good build?

[untold beacon]

Yeah it’s good

Not bad

At all I would just buy the case and power supply at the same time to make sure everything goes good 👍

[heavy atlas]

so i should buy the psu and case?

[untold beacon]

Crap

I forgot u don’t have the ssd yet don’t u

[heavy atlas]

nope

[untold beacon]

Well

Just get all those parts at once then

[heavy atlas]

the storage psu and case?

the ssd is storage right?

[untold beacon]

Yeah it would be better if u could get the gpu at the same time as well but this current market is all over the place

[mossy venture]

yes

[untold beacon]

Yes

[heavy atlas]

i can’t find a gpu cheaper can i?

that’s just as good

[mossy venture]

i mean, cheaper yes

same perf while cheaper, no

[untold beacon]

Yeah that’s the current market

😭

[heavy atlas]

i might buy the gpu last just in case it might get cheaper

[untold beacon]

I mean u could get a 3070 for the actual retail price or lower on eBay sometimes

Yeah

I’ve been thinking about that to but I’m probably just gonna get one off eBay

Or just see how the market does

[empty pollen]

if you are in us

you can go for the waifu card as well

just saying

[untold beacon]

Haha 😂

[empty pollen]

jokes aside

[untold beacon]

I’ve seen that one

[empty pollen]

is pretty cheap rn

[heavy atlas]

so i can find the 6800 xt for cheaper on ebay?

[untold beacon]

Yeah but just trying to get one that goes with the build

Well yes and no

It might be used or it’s still sealed

Or someone sealed it and put a fake card in there

[empty pollen]

probably, but you need to know how to search there to get the best bang ofr your buck

[untold beacon]

That’s why u always ask for proof and evidence that they actually have the card

Yeah

[empty pollen]

ebay cards are not for everyone

[untold beacon]

I search for hours on eBay

Found a few 3080’s for $600 $650

[empty pollen]

same thing applies for fb marketplace

[untold beacon]

So it’s better then the retail price

Yep

Look on there to

I found eBay to be the best for graphics cards

[mossy venture]

r/hardwareswap good too

[untold beacon]

So just ask for proof if ur really going to get one on eBay

[untold beacon]

That as well

[heavy atlas]

i might js get one off of new egg or amazon

[empty pollen]

safer

[untold beacon]

Expensive big bucks for that thing right there

True it is safer

[heavy atlas]

yea i’m going to buy the gpu last just in case it drops in price yk

[untold beacon]

Yeah I’ve got all my other parts just the gpu is the pain in the butt

[heavy atlas]

mbn😹

what build you going for v

?*

[untold beacon]

Like I am going to get the MSI 3080 gaming x trio

[heavy atlas]

list?

[untold beacon]

It matches my build and I’ve always liked nvidia

Gotcha

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xCCRnt

[heavy atlas]

jeeze

[untold beacon]

Might get the 10GB or 12GB one still haven’t decided

Yeah it’s expensive but a good build indeed

[heavy atlas]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uWgPp1dpn6I

check that out

[untold beacon]

Oh boy

[heavy atlas]

they’re giving that away

[untold beacon]

Jesus

That is a strange pc indeed

[heavy atlas]

it’s god tier tho every time you take damage on mc it reacts to it

[untold beacon]

Pretty cool though

Yeah that’s what makes it cool cooler scheme

[heavy atlas]

ofc i entered it if i win that thing ima scream so loud

[untold beacon]

It would be nice to win that thing indeed

But I’m not gonna enter in it

No point if I already got pc

[heavy atlas]

i mean it’s worth a shot

[untold beacon]

True

The odds are very much against anyone

Really

[heavy atlas]

yea i’m probably not gonna win that

still worth a. shot

[untold beacon]

Yep wish u the best of luck

[heavy atlas]

🙏

[untold beacon]

That’s my pc

[heavy atlas]

wow

[untold beacon]

Yes

Expensive

🥲

[heavy atlas]

like how much expensive?

[untold beacon]

Well with out the gpu it was $1200 when I bought all the parts

But now with those parts it’s like $900 or $1000

[heavy atlas]

so around 2k?

[untold beacon]

With the gpu it would be $2000 after taxes

Yeah

[heavy atlas]

tryna donate?

😹

[untold beacon]

Nah fam

Gotta get that gpu

[heavy atlas]

understandable

[untold beacon]

Already got someone who pays me to play video games 😂

[heavy atlas]

i’m 2 young to get a job so it is very very difficult to get my parts

[untold beacon]

Yeah for young people it always is a pain in the but

Butt

[heavy atlas]

tryna hook me up?

[untold beacon]

Nah that guy only pays me my guy sorry

[heavy atlas]

for what games?

[untold beacon]

Any game he wants me to get him stuff in

Like right now he’s paying me $165 for just to get a battleship in wows

[heavy atlas]

brooooo

mbn

[untold beacon]

Yeah he has payed me like $550 bucks so far

Used the $550 already

[empty pollen]

you are a booster in other words

easy money indeed

[heavy atlas]

yea later tonight ima find a way to make money at home

[empty pollen]

made some bucks back in the day

boosting arena rating on wow

[untold beacon]

Well u could mow peoples lawns

[heavy atlas]

i do that

[untold beacon]

Nice

[heavy atlas]

but that gas expensive

[untold beacon]

Alright that’s a start

I mean just charge a certain fee

For mowing other peoples lawn

[heavy atlas]

i charge 30 a yard😹

[untold beacon]

Ok and how much for gas u paying

[heavy atlas]

20

[untold beacon]

So then u make a $10 profit every time

[heavy atlas]

ikr

[untold beacon]

Raise it to $35 a yard

Make $15 profit

Think smart not hard kids

[strong raft]

$20 in fuel each yard is pretty crap profit tbh.

[untold beacon]

Yeah

[heavy atlas]

it’s like per 5 yards

[untold beacon]

So just raise the amount of money a bit at a time for mowing lawns

[heavy atlas]

actually like 3

[untold beacon]

Well

May I wish u the best of luck on making money 👍☝️

Wait

[heavy atlas]

yea im starting to sell on gameflip

[untold beacon]

How old our u anyways

[heavy atlas]

14

[untold beacon]

Ok

What state u live in

I got a idea for u

[heavy atlas]

va

virginia

[untold beacon]

Alright

In Virginia, every teenager 14 or 15 years of age must have an employment certificate (work permit) to work at a job.

So find jobs that our willing to hire u

Do that next summer because I know u have school

Soon or ur in it

Idk even know anymore man

[empty pollen]

just remember that school is way waaay more important than a pc or some bucks

[untold beacon]

True rhat

That

[empty pollen]

you have a lot of time ahead of you

[untold beacon]

Yep

So just get summer time jobs and not during school

[heavy atlas]

yea my mom wouldn’t let me do that anyways😹

[untold beacon]

Yeah my mom was like that to

But I’m smart so I got a job anyways 😂

[strong raft]

I would have done part time if it wasn't for all the bs homework.

[heavy atlas]

at my school we don’t have a lot of homework

we have some but not a lot

[untold beacon]

Yea I got a lot of homework but I just do it in different hours 😂

[heavy atlas]

you still i. school?

in

[untold beacon]

Yep

[heavy atlas]

what grade you in?

[untold beacon]

Going into 11th

[heavy atlas]

oh

i’m going to 8th

[untold beacon]

Nice

Things will start to get harder eventually but u should do alright as long as u study and work hard

But then u will be able to live out ur life and do whatever u want after school

12th grade is supposed to be where it gets the somewhat easy is what some people say

[heavy atlas]

is your pfp of your dog?

[untold beacon]

Yep

He’s a good boy

So u want that 6800xt correct

[heavy atlas]

yes

[untold beacon]

So what monitor do u have

I’d like to know the Hz and resultion if that’s alright with u

[heavy atlas]

https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwjWor3treP5AhU5wsIEHSw6Bg8YABAOGgJwdg&ae=2&sig=AOD64_1akY4QDGITClX1kINyZim3dKwL2Q&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwjmra_treP5AhVOEEQIHXn4AlUQwg8oAHoECAEQCw&adurl=

i’m planning on getting a new 1

[untold beacon]

Which one for the new one

[heavy atlas]

wym

[untold beacon]

I’d like to know that to because I don’t want u getting a overkill gpu for a monitor that is only 1080p and 120fps

So if u could send me the new monitor ur gonna

Like which monitor ur gonna get

[heavy atlas]

ohh u wanna know what monitor i’m getting?

[untold beacon]

Yes

[heavy atlas]

i’m not sure

[untold beacon]

Send me a few then that u thinking about getting

[heavy atlas]

https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiw97bYruP5AhXRPK0GHc5XB4QYABBKGgJwdg&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAASJORoGwnzA-QKQVxVic6ahb6EjR8MHH6wGz2BDpLjWaOpYh2H6w&sig=AOD64_1B1vSmQl043CBgDg5B3x1Av9aItw&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwiW1avYruP5AhV4LEQIHVZuBpgQwg8oAHoFCAEQjAI&adurl=

maybe that 1

[untold beacon]

Samsung 24-in Odyssey CRG5 FHD (1920x1080) 144Hz Curved Gaming Monitor LC24RG50FZNXZA

https://www.gamestop.com/pc-gaming/monitors/pc/products/samsung-24-in-odyssey-crg5-fhd-1920x1080-144hz-curved-gaming-monitor-lc24rg50fznxza/317355.html

Should get that instead

It’s better for the price

But obviously from a different website

But if ur gonna stay at 1080p

I’d say for u to go down to a 6700xt or a 6800 if u wanna save money

Instead of getting a gpu that is meant for 4k gaming

For some games

[heavy atlas]

mhm

so you are saying that i should downgrade mostly bc of the monitor

[untold beacon]

Well yes and no

It’s not just because of the monitor

It’s because of the gpu

That gpu it’s supposed to be gamed at 1440p high or 4k

And yes I can still go to 1080p

For frame s

Frames

But there is just no point in buying a 6800xt if ur gonna have a monitor that can only go 120hz max

[heavy atlas]

i can get a new 1

[untold beacon]

But if u get a monitor that has 165hz and above that is what would be good

So aim for 165hz or 240hz

And then get a 6800xt

[heavy atlas]

can you just send me a monitor tht will be good for the gpu i’m getting?

[untold beacon]

Give me a minute I’ll look for a few

[heavy atlas]

ok ty

[untold beacon]

I was just suggesting the slightly lower tier gpus because for u to save money to get the same performance as the other gpus at 1080p

Because the 6800 and 6800xt aren’t so different in performance wise

Just trying to save u a few bucks

[strong raft]

Really I might not suggest a 6800XT at all when next gen is not too far. What tay said.

[untold beacon]

Yeah u have a point there to

But for me I’m just gonna get a 3080 because the next gen is supposed to be power hungry and I don’t really wanna upgrade my psu

Until the time comes

[heavy atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

so can you put that gpu into my build please?

[untold beacon]

I mean the 6800 just stick it in there ur self

[heavy atlas]

so i just type in 6800?

[untold beacon]

Yep

Into pcpartpicker of course

[heavy atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hx32zf

so that?

[untold beacon]

No it’s just 6800

Not 6800xt

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nLfGnt

Like that

It’s cheaper and still basically the same performance so get that gpu if u really want to

@strong raft how u doing

It’s been a while

[potent portal]

3080 prices are supposed to keep going down, at least until 40 series launches

[untold beacon]

Yeah that’s the good thing

[potent portal]

AMD is already below MSRP on most models

[untold beacon]

It’s been awhile since I’ve seen u Fal as wel

Well

Yeah like the 6800 is just at msrp

[potent portal]

I'm here frequently, sometimes lurking and reading conversations and other times participating in them

[untold beacon]

😂

The watcher

Of all

[potent portal]

I'm always in offline mode though because I get flooded with pings when I go to check a different server for 5 minutes

[untold beacon]

Yeah that’s how it be when ur one of the top members

@heavy atlas so u figure I put yet

Out yet

[heavy atlas]

yes

[untold beacon]

Alright u got it on the list

[heavy atlas]

yes

[untold beacon]

Alright let me see the list real quick

[heavy atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2zD49r

[untold beacon]

Many thanks

[heavy atlas]

so it’s good?

[untold beacon]

Yep

Just didn’t want u getting a gpu that is over kill if ur just gonna have a 1080p monitor

This one is just like that one but just the performance difference

It’s cheaper and just about as good as the 6800xt

[heavy atlas]

ok so once i get all them parts and i build my pc will it run good?

[untold beacon]

Yes

[heavy atlas]

will it run at good fps?

[untold beacon]

Yes my friend u are fine don’t worry

Ur not gonna run 30fps on a 6800

[heavy atlas]

so like 60?

[untold beacon]

No dude

[potent portal]

Try 240-400 depending on the game at 1080p

[untold beacon]

Yes thank u

My friend

[strong raft]

Long ways from the past, for example when we just had 960 970 980 & the spread between each was moderate. Great times to buy gpu these days.

[untold beacon]

So as I said don’t worry

[heavy atlas]

so it will run at 240-400 fps?

[potent portal]

In most games yes

[untold beacon]

All the games u play at 1080p will have good frame rate

Just depends on the games

[heavy atlas]

wow

that is wayyyy bettter than my ps4 that runs on 30 fps 😹

[untold beacon]

That’s why I said try and get a 165hz monitor

Yes it’s way better

Then a console

[potent portal]

There's exceptions like GTAV that's going to run terrible no matter what you do

[untold beacon]

Yeah GTA 5 is just like that

[strong raft]

Just for instance Apex medium & I easily do 150fps w/ my 1080 & 3770 holding it back.

[empty pollen]

trying to get a 165hz for 1080p is a waste to me... better to upgrade to 144hz 1440p

but, thats just my opinion

[heavy atlas]

wb cod?

[untold beacon]

He doesn’t have all the money dude

[mossy venture]

i used to run gta on a 1030 at medium settings 60fps

[empty pollen]

not much of a difference

between a 165hz 1080p and a 1440p

[potent portal]

It'll be good in CoD, easy 200 fps

[heavy atlas]

wow

[untold beacon]

Yes I know that but prices for certain monitors are what is gonna get at him

He’s just trying to play games on his pc and I’m just giving him my personal opinion on things so he can play the games he wants and doesn’t have to spend a fortune to play them

[strong raft]

78% more pixels on 1440p is not "a small difference".

[untold beacon]

So a 1080 monitor with 165hz or 240hz is just fine for him

[empty pollen]

if you want to save more go 144hz 1080p instead

[empty pollen]

i mean on price 😛

[strong raft]

Deals vary often so we also can't just say 165hz is a waste of money. My 1080p asus was $206* but the 1440p HP was $175 of course.

[empty pollen]

thts the fun part of it

the deals

[untold beacon]

Yep because that’s how money goes and comes around

Them deals

[heavy atlas]

i’m ready to play mc on that pc

[potent portal]

Get whatever texture pack you like and run ray tracing, you'll still get fps above your monitor's refresh rate

[heavy atlas]

what is ray tracing?

[untold beacon]

He’s getting a 6800

[empty pollen]

yes

that can do rt as well

[untold beacon]

Which is alright for ray tracing

[untold beacon]

Yep that’s it for sure

[little osprey]

Hey all! Stopping in again from last night!

[untold beacon]

I know it can

[mossy venture]

hey dude

you have the link to the list from last night?

[untold beacon]

Description
Ray tracing is a method of graphics rendering that simulates the physical behavior of light. Thought to be decades away from reality, NVIDIA has made real-time ray tracing possible with NVIDIA RTX™ the first-ever real-time ray-tracing GPU and has continued to pioneer the technology since.

And same with amd but nvidas ray tracing is better

[little osprey]

I do, here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b4mVfv#compatibility_notes

[untold beacon]

Supposedly

[little osprey]

Hope yall are having a good night!

[empty pollen]

it is

still a gimmick on most games

[untold beacon]

Yes to the fax

[potent portal]

It's still not a totally mature technology so it's not something that gets pushed very often. RT has potential to totally change games.

[untold beacon]

But amd could catch up

[empty pollen]

mc is one of the few that can do rt on an acceptable level

[earnest olive]

me seeing 45 fps on 3090:

[mossy venture]

still looks good, i'd say youre good to buy

[untold beacon]

True u have a point

[potent portal]

That's a CPU bottleneck tho

[empty pollen]

yeah amd is catching up with the rt tech, still nvidia is way ahead

[earnest olive]

that was with the 5800x

[empty pollen]

we will see on next gen how those 2 will behave

[earnest olive]

and i could hit over 4000 fps with potato settings

i just went too ham on the shaders lol

[potent portal]

You borked something then because I saw a 6600 running RT at 100 fps

[untold beacon]

Man everyone is coming to the party 😂

[empty pollen]

everyone is around lurking in the shadows

[untold beacon]

Yep

As usual

[earnest olive]

just the offical rt implementation was running at >200 fps

at 1440p

[untold beacon]

Nice

[earnest olive]

but shaders make gpu go boom

[heavy atlas]

nb

[little osprey]

Someone was talking to me and telling me Nvidia is a bit uncooperative is I were to ever try to upgrade or change the motherboard. Is that true?

[earnest olive]

...what

[little osprey]

Or not Nvidia wtf?

I'm tired

Hang on

[empty pollen]

wut?

[little osprey]

INTEL

Intel is uncooperative. No nvidia

[earnest olive]

well

[untold beacon]

What

[empty pollen]

still... wut?

[earnest olive]

intel changes sockets more often than amd if that's what they mean

[untold beacon]

Yes that is a known fact

[little osprey]

Eh I'm not too qorried about that part then

[earnest olive]

do you plan on upgrading cpu/mobo within 4 years?

[empty pollen]

usually by the time you need an upgrade on your cpu then its a complete overhaul anyway

so not an issue

[little osprey]

If it works better than ryzen products and isn't hard to find replacements or swap out, I'm OK with it honestly

[empty pollen]

neither amd nor intel are hard to upgrade

is about budget at the end, both of them are competitive... intel is ahead rn but that could change on the next gen

[earnest olive]

current gen ryzen is on the last generation for this socket, so in-socket upgradability at the moment is a moot point

[little osprey]

I suppose it's also not difficult to change a motherboard either along with the CPU

[earnest olive]

intel has one more gen on current socket

[potent portal]

Lots of people are getting Intel 12100 and planning to upgrade to 13600/13700

[little osprey]

Oh really?

[empty pollen]

yes am5 is about to launch

prolly next month

[earnest olive]

you'd have to wait for AM5 to get the "long lifespan motherboard"

[empty pollen]

we dont know about that as well

[earnest olive]

buying into first gen of anything from AMD is a terrifying idea to me though at this point

[empty pollen]

maybe, maybe dont

[potent portal]

It's all but confirmed at this point, review kits have been sent out

[earnest olive]

remember ryzen 1000/x370

[little osprey]

If I planned on doing VR or higher-intensity games, maybe that's be a better leap, but the highers difficulty game I think I'll want to run is modded minecraft 😅

[strong raft]

For sure, plus the moderate switchover from pga to lga.

[earnest olive]

[empty pollen]

i mean even the mobos on gamescom, still we need the official announcemnt next monday

[potent portal]

I could say the same about Intel and the e-cores disaster

[empty pollen]

first gen of anything is a bug-fiesta

[earnest olive]

tbh i think the cooler situation was a much bigger disaster than e-cores

e-cores pretty easy to just disable

and manufacturers came out with that game switch thing pretty easily

[empty pollen]

expect the same level of bugs on the new gen gpus as well

both amd and nvdia

[potent portal]

It's rather frustrating having to disable cores you paid extra for though

[empty pollen]

will be a fun first week of drivers updates

[little osprey]

Hmmm well a last question is, does 6 cores provide more than enough for all your guys' gaming needs? Or should I get some help finding an 8 core instead?

[earnest olive]

sure, but better than not being able to use the pc at all because you can't mount your cooler

[empty pollen]

6 is more then enough

most games use 4, some 6

[earnest olive]

intel really should have worked with cooler manufacturers to put lga1700 kits in new coolers like a year before adl launch

and made sure they were more widely available for older coolers

[potent portal]

Fair point, at least AM5 uses the same bracket as AM4

[little osprey]

Gotcha. Idk which games that would even use more than 6

[strong raft]

Bolt thru superior though still.

[earnest olive]

star citizen can load up 64 cores 🙂

[empty pollen]

heck civilization is a common benchmarks for cpus

[earnest olive]

threadripper for gaming

[potent portal]

Yeah the turn time test, totally slams a single core

5800X3D kills that test

[little osprey]

........why would anyone do that to themselves? 🤣

[empty pollen]

smoked that one in fact

[little osprey]

OH? I never even knew. It looked like such a basic game!

[empty pollen]

man 1st to second quarter 2023 for 7000x3d cpus.... sad pepe

[potent portal]

All the AI turn processing can take forever in slower CPUs

[earnest olive]

true, why waste a 64 core on that when you could be using it on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh8MiNzKkiA&t=138s

[empty pollen]

the real torture test!

[little osprey]

Shsgsgshs lmao that's not any better 🤣

[potent portal]

I would love to see task manager play snake

[earnest olive]

i don't know what you're talking about

this is the optimal use case for a computer

[empty pollen]

cant argue against that

should be the magnus opus of every pc user

[earnest olive]

no filter evading

[empty pollen]

hahahahahahaha

[little osprey]

Hey I can't judge! My steam library is a mess

Oh oops I'm sorry actually

I forget sometimes, my bad

[earnest olive]

sad

quad core moment

can't play videos on my cpu

[empty pollen]

real chads use i7s

[earnest olive]

😔

sorry i am poor

[empty pollen]

i forgive you

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/stopbeingpoor-poor-broke-gif-21552270

[earnest olive]

brb going to my money tree to pick some money

[little osprey]

Lmao

Hmm well since y'all do agree that my current list is as good as it can be for budget, I'm gonna go with this and order the parts. Thanks again for the help!

[empty pollen]

👍

[little osprey]

Oh shoot actually, one more thing. I need a good place to get a window's 10 operating system for cheap. I don't wanna pay $200 for something I know exists elsewhere cheaper

[empty pollen]

i dont think anyone here will advise you on the "cheaper" options about that. Those options are on your own risk

just saying 😛

[potent portal]

We can't really link those cheap keys because they're technically grey market

[strong raft]

Just check all legit places and see which is decent (price), gonna be around $100 or so generally. Could use your old Windows 7 key btw.

[little osprey]

That's true. I didn't know if there was a well-known budget site that had windows 10 downloads available for a brand new PC

[empty pollen]

win10 can be downloaded on the microsoft webpage... the key is another story

[little osprey]

Pepe perfect for that statement you just made. I'll go back to 2012 to game 🎮

[little osprey]

Ah I see

[strong raft]

Perhaps you mis understood. You can literally use "your" Win7 key to isntall Win10. I did/

[empty pollen]

yup, my old pc have the win7 key sticker on the chassis... i reused on my win 10

worked flawlessly

thats one redeemable feature of windows... one key to rule them all

[strong raft]

For now, btw this is 1 of the legit ways: (best buy for example). At a glance I didn't see a windows 10 usb, but easy enough to DL win10 and make a bootable usb obviously

[potent portal]

I did the same. Windows 7 keys from stickers are beautiful because they have never been used. They're unique to the PC, and they used an OEM key from the factory.

[empty pollen]

holy efff... free shipping and it arrives on saturday?

give me 2 plz

[potent portal]

It'll be outdated, that's my biggest issue

Good if you don't have any USB

[little osprey]

Wait I'm sorry WHAT?

That's a funny loophole 🤣

[strong raft]

It's not really even a loophole, it's more a feature (from MS) so you can "upgrade" your OS on 1 PC w/o rebuying windows. Edit: I better put Win10 on my E8400 PC before something might eventual change.

[potent portal]

They use the same activation server. Microsoft technically ended the free upgrade program but keys still work fine.

[little osprey]

Ooooh ok ok. Interesting

[strong raft]

Yep, and if Win11 was the plan:

[little osprey]

Eh, windows 11 is butt anyway

[empty pollen]

sadly a need on 12th gen e-cores

[little osprey]

Unless window's 12 is better than 10, I'm gonna stick with this operating system

[potent portal]

10 is fully supported until October 2025

[empty pollen]

thats why im goin win11 on raptor lake

for now, win 10 baby

[obsidian wigeon]

win 11 isn't bad

but it's worse than 10 in ui aspect

[empty pollen]

indeed

[obsidian wigeon]

more complicated lol

[potent portal]

Yeah 11 has improved a lot, but there's still privacy issues

[empty pollen]

the ui is horrible and there is no normal way to mimic 10 ui

[obsidian wigeon]

there actually is

[empty pollen]

and im not download any third party programs to emulate win 10 ui

[obsidian wigeon]

but at that point

just use win 10

[empty pollen]

yeah

who had the brilliant idea to put the start button in the middle of the task bar?

that guy should be fired

luckily that thing can be easy fixed

[mossy venture]

It looks like it was made by Apple

[potent portal]

You can change that with 3 clicks

[obsidian wigeon]

it was a thing on win 10x too

which 11 is inspired by ui wise

[empty pollen]

4 if you count open the browser first

had to search for that

😛

[potent portal]

I thought it was MacOS inspired

[obsidian wigeon]

it looks like it but

the right word is 10x was the actual macos inspired os

[potent portal]

Oh I missed the X, I just call it OSX

[little osprey]

Ah damn...can't find the red switch keyboard I saved...

🤣

[stoic island]

Keychron?

Womier?

[empty pollen]

[leaden mauve]

keychron 💪

[twilit pollen]

Hi guys, I'm kinda new to PC set ups, I was wondering if you guys can give me some advise to my current list of parts...

CPU: 12700K Intel
Motherboard: ASUS TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4 LGA 1700
GPU: MSI 3070Ti/3070 (I do not play those high-quality games, mainly league of legends, overwatch, PUBG. Sometimes play GTA5)
Water Cooling: MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler
RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600
SSD: Samsung 980 ITB
Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic Black
Fans: I am not sure how many fans I should have… maybe 5?
Monitor: MSI Optix AG321CQR 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz
Power Supply: EVGA Gold 850W, I chose this because it is 80 dollars discount..lol

Thank you guys

[potent portal]

You'll want a different cooler. 12700k is very difficult to cool and needs one of the best. I'd go with liquid freezer II, Galahad, or ek-aio.
Which model power supply exactly? EVGA makes dozens.

[twilit pollen]

It was EVGA 1000GQ 210-GQ-1000-V1 GQ 80 Plus Gold, 1000W ECO Mode Semi Modular Power Supply

Thank you

[untold beacon]

Not bad at all hun pretty good build

I mean EVGA is still a good power supply brand but I’d go with a Corsair powers supply but it’s up to u so it isn’t really gonna matter

[twilit pollen]

Thank you bro, how about the compatibility, do the parts going to function pretty well together?

[untold beacon]

As long as u aren’t getting a off brand power supply 😂

[twilit pollen]

Oh Ok, thank you

[untold beacon]

If u can send me the pcpartpicker list it should be alright as I am looking at the list u said in chat

Or do u not use pcpartpicker

It’s cool if u don’t

[twilit pollen]

Yeah I dont use that, is it a tool for test compatibility?

[untold beacon]

Yes

So just type in pcpartpicker into ur search bar and boom put in all ur parts and should be good

True but if it’s something they wanna get I just let them be

Unless if it’s unnecessary

Ah

I didn’t read that part all I saw was the parts and I read that 😂

[twilit pollen]

Thank yall for the recommendation

[untold beacon]

Yes but I’d just stick with the cooler Fal said

It’s a good and solid cpu cooler for the i7 12700k

Oh

Wooos

🙃

Yeah

[strong raft]

mm I wouldn't have picked the GQ psu for sure. Could drop down to 850w then get a better tier model.

[untold beacon]

I thought he said the Corsair cpu cooler my brain forgets things real fast when I’m tired 😂

True

Nice

[empty pollen]

ak620 or bust baby

😎

[twilit pollen]

thank you thank you

[empty pollen]

my 620 was 35.... almost there

[untold beacon]

Nice

[twilit pollen]

what is a better tier model for EVGA?

[empty pollen]

g6

hands down

[untold beacon]

Corsair as well

But the G6

Equal best

[empty pollen]

rm series is expensive compared to g6, even more against b stock

[twilit pollen]

Thank you all

[untold beacon]

True

Good thing I got my hands on one before they went up in price haha

[empty pollen]

yup yup

or a gt for like 40

equally good

[twilit pollen]

oh shoot okok

[empty pollen]

it is, but is equally good as g6

why is b tier is beyond me

[twilit pollen]

do you think 750W works?

[untold beacon]

All good choices from us

Yes for a 3070 or 3070ti and all ur other parts should be fine

What

[empty pollen]

yeah 750 will do good as long you dont overload a 12900

[untold beacon]

That’s crazy

[empty pollen]

not at all

[untold beacon]

On a a 3090

[empty pollen]

there is almost no scenario where you go 100% load on both cpu and gpu, so 850 is totally fine

[twilit pollen]

Ok Thank you

[untold beacon]

Well actually

Yeah I guess I just think that is crazy dude

That a 850w can handle a 3090

[empty pollen]

great psu

those caps are champs on their own

[untold beacon]

Yeah must be

[twilit pollen]

Thank you!

You guys are really nice lol

[untold beacon]

That’s very good indeed

No problem hun glad to help

[twilit pollen]

😊

[empty pollen]

im goin to rock a 13700 and prolly an 80ti/4070 on a 850 g6

ill be fine

[untold beacon]

I mean I heard the 4070 and 4080ti are supposed to be power hungry

[empty pollen]

yeah rumored.... all rumors for now.... but even at 350w it will be enough to handle a 4070

which i doubt it will be 350w

[untold beacon]

True

Might be 300w at best

[empty pollen]

kinda... hoping

[untold beacon]

But if it’s more that will be a little co ko

[empty pollen]

still nothing a lil undervolt cant fix

[untold beacon]

Yep

[twilit pollen]

one last question, do you think I really need 360mm water cooling? or 240 is fine

[empty pollen]

240 is fine

[twilit pollen]

OKOK

[empty pollen]

however keep in mind prices, if you can snatch a deal for a lower priced 360, then by all mean, go ahead

[untold beacon]

Yea what they said

Yep

[twilit pollen]

Got it thank you

[untold beacon]

Is that a good cooler or naw

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gC4Ycf/msi-mag-coreliquid-c-7873-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-mag-coreliquid-c240

[empty pollen]

i read a lot of reviews about clogging on msi units

ill stay on artic frezzer

or EK

[untold beacon]

Yea I mean mine is fine right now

[empty pollen]

good for you 🙂 i will cool my raptor lake with ma trusty 620

no tubes, no fuzz

[dim forge]

which are good cheap cases?

[untold beacon]

Nice

[dim forge]

I can't find the mx330g-air in amazon

[empty pollen]

yeah it was g360 😛

those phanteks cases are very good

[dim forge]

thanks 🙂

[compact dawn]

Hello

[empty pollen]

hey

[dim forge]

amazon has free shipping 😦

anyway ain't buying yet, I'll wait for series 7000 and raptor lake to come out

👉 👈

[compact dawn]

I wan't to get my first pc, but still can't decide between getting a pre-built or building one myself. What should I do?

[empty pollen]

september for 7000 and october for rpl... probably

man, what a year... we are almost at xmas... time flies when you live only on rumors and leaks 😛

[untold beacon]

I got a question mates

[empty pollen]

shoot

[compact dawn]

I can follow instructions very easily if thaught well

[untold beacon]

Why does everyone dis on the i9 11900k I mean yeah it’s only got what 8 cores 16 threads but what makes it so bad

[empty pollen]

11th gen on general was stagnation compared to 10th gen

[potent portal]

It's beaten by the 10900k in most tasks

[untold beacon]

I see

So RIP me

[coarse coral]

[dim forge]

wasnt gen 12 the big jump?

[empty pollen]

yes

[untold beacon]

Yeah

I would say a bad word but u already know what’s gonna happen if I do

[dim forge]

why are nvidia gpus so overpriceeeeed, like why is a 1660 ti 320$ usd when a 6600 is like 250-ish

[potent portal]

It was Intel's biggest jump in about a decade, but it only let them catch up and barely squeak by AMD

[empty pollen]

yeah, for the average joe 11th gen is ok

[dim forge]

😔

[empty pollen]

however we dont advice 11th gen thse days ofc

[untold beacon]

Gpu shortage

I guess I’m the average joe 😂

[empty pollen]

the gpu winter is long gone

[dim forge]

I'm excited to see how well zen4 and 5nm lithography will run

[untold beacon]

Yeah true

But for nvida

It’s a different story

[empty pollen]

im half excited/half worried

the prices... oh man

[untold beacon]

Amd caught up for the most part nvida

Is

Not really caught up at all

[dim forge]

if only new cpus didn't come with stupidly overpiced boards

[empty pollen]

well, the overpriced boards are the ones at launch

[potent portal]

Look more towards Zen 4 3D, should be out by March. They'll completely crush everything in gaming.

[empty pollen]

affordable ones will come at the end of the year

[untold beacon]

Yeah would be nice but better cpu better board means more money

[empty pollen]

650s and 760s

[untold beacon]

And there are cheap ones

[dim forge]

I feel like this is not the right time to build a pc, is it?

[compact dawn]

This chat is making me wan't a pc so badly now💀

[empty pollen]

i guess he meant for the newer ones, 13th gen and ma5

[untold beacon]

I mean

[dim forge]

[untold beacon]

Yes and no

Depends on all the parts that u get really

[potent portal]

It's about a month until next gen launches so no, not great timing

[untold beacon]

Yeah same

[empty pollen]

depends on your budget and your actual rig

if you have a rig like mine, yes... wait

[untold beacon]

Waiting to see what that 4070 can do

[potent portal]

4070 won't be out until next year

[empty pollen]

we are almost at the finish line, dont give up brothers

[dim forge]

nasa rendering

[untold beacon]

probably

[compact dawn]

About how long?

[empty pollen]

i have 1.8k stashed on hold for mobo+cpu+memory+gpu for the next gen

[compact dawn]

1 year?

Oh ok

[untold beacon]

Worst decision I made was buying the i9 11900k

[potent portal]

GPUs are due in October, by then CPUs will be out too

[untold beacon]

But I got it for $250 so

Can’t say anything bad about it

[empty pollen]

what kind of monstrosity could be built on a 1.8k budget for mobo+cpu+mem+gpu if i were to build rn?

hmnmmmm

[untold beacon]

I mean

Amd everything 😂

[potent portal]

12900ks, ddr5, 3090, the works

[compact dawn]

With a budget of around 2.1k what would be reccomended?

[untold beacon]

Only people who can keep there stuff in stock no shortages

True

I mean

[empty pollen]

dont fall for it rommy

hold a lil more

we are almost there

[untold beacon]

Y’all think the 4070 is gonna be better than the 3080

[empty pollen]

should be

[untold beacon]

I hope it is

[potent portal]

It's supposed to match the 3090

[empty pollen]

3070 was better than 2080

[untold beacon]

Really

Wow

[empty pollen]

so 4070 should be better than 3080

by default

[untold beacon]

Thought it was supposed to match the 3080 ti

[empty pollen]

that... we dont know

[untold beacon]

Apparently

[empty pollen]

rumors are 4070 on equal foot as the 3090

[untold beacon]

But anything could change anytime

[potent portal]

That's within 2 percent of a 3090 anyway

[empty pollen]

and 4080 on par with 90ti

yup

like the extreme score

pure speculations at this point

[untold beacon]

I mean as long as they are awesome performance specs I’m all good

[empty pollen]

they will be

the real point will be the price

thats everyone guess

[compact dawn]

Well time to save some more

[untold beacon]

I heard a rumor that the 7000’s is gonna have 2 gpus in them

[potent portal]

4070 is supposed to be 300W too, so matching the 3090 while using 50W less

[empty pollen]

wut?

[untold beacon]

Yes

[compact dawn]

Fr?

[untold beacon]

But it’s probably fake

Knowing people these days

[potent portal]

It's called a multi chip module, it's two dies

[untold beacon]

Ahh

Fascinating

[empty pollen]

most rumors are from reputable leakers anyway... so fake is such a strong word to be used

[potent portal]

It's kinda similar to how the IO die and cores are separate in the CPUs

[untold beacon]

Maybe

Just saying it’s a possibility

[empty pollen]

rumors and specualtion is better

[compact dawn]

aight gentlemens thanks

[untold beacon]

Np

[empty pollen]

u r welcome

[untold beacon]

Have a good night

Alright see ya

[empty pollen]

gamers nexus for u too rommy

[potent portal]

Night rommy

[empty pollen]

[potent portal]

I will if I'm not too busy managing lol

[untold beacon]

So

U guys think I should get a MSI 3080 gaming x trio or wait for the 4070

[potent portal]

Do you think you could wait as long as February?

[empty pollen]

if you are comfortable with your actual gpu then wait

4070 prolly next year

[untold beacon]

I mean

I’ve already been waiting for a year and a half for a gpu and I’ve just been waiting for these prices to go back to normal

[empty pollen]

up to you bro

[untold beacon]

Wait

February

[empty pollen]

if you cant wait that long then go ahead and buy now, either way you will enjoy your 3080 all these 6 months

[potent portal]

Yes, January best case, February is possible

[untold beacon]

I thought they said it was supposed to release in December

[empty pollen]

dont think so

[potent portal]

Nope that's the 4080

[untold beacon]

They changed it huh

Uhhhhh

[empty pollen]

if the rumors are true and 40 series is announced at the end of september then probably 4090 in october

[potent portal]

The 4090 is getting rushed to October so they have something to compete

[empty pollen]

and 4080 in december

[untold beacon]

Cause before they were saying October for 4090 November for 4080 and 4070 for December

Man

[empty pollen]

4070, january/february and 60 like april

[untold beacon]

They changing everything

[empty pollen]

they ahve 30 series still overstock

[potent portal]

Nvidia has too much overstock of 30 series they need to sell

[empty pollen]

they can delay all they want

good thing tho, 30 series will keep going down in price

[potent portal]

That's why high end Nvidia prices are getting slashed also

[empty pollen]

maybe in 2 months you could snatch an 80ti below 700

maaaaybe

truckload of salt

[untold beacon]

Yes maybe

Time will tell

[empty pollen]

at the end is your call

me? im prolly wait, and thats coming from a guy with a 750ti

figures

[potent portal]

Keep in mind, Nvidia is delaying but AMD is NOT

[empty pollen]

still

we dont know how many skus will be release from amd

7900s for sure

[potent portal]

Lemme dig up that leak

There was at least 4 AMD cards launching this year

[empty pollen]

our best scenario is a 7700 release as well, so nvidia will be hard pressed to release 4070 this year to compete

oh, an amd leak, plz 😄

[untold beacon]

Did they get leaked or nah

No specs on them

I mean do u guys think the 3080 is worth it

[empty pollen]

it is

its a beast of a card

the price tho.....

still overpriced, 6800xt is a better deal

[untold beacon]

True

But I’ve heard the ray tracing is better for nvida

[empty pollen]

on raster performance amd wins at a lower price

rt is a gimmick this gen

[untold beacon]

I see

[empty pollen]

maybe on next gen that could be a factor to compete

[untold beacon]

Yes indeed

[potent portal]

Damn AMD leaks are tight as usual

[strong raft]

4070 is supposedly around 285w TDP btw, and perhaps 8% better efficiency VS a 3080. Good news is should quite a bit lower than the $700+ a 3080 usually is.

[empty pollen]

hope so

availability will be something strange

[potent portal]

I wouldn't say "quite a bit" but it'll be lower than pandemic pricing at least lol

[empty pollen]

yeah, worst case scenario will be an artificial scarcity to raise prices

hope we will not reach that point

[potent portal]

Price creep per tier is happening, so take the MSRP of each tier for 30 series and add $50

[empty pollen]

ill be happy on a 750usd 4070

even more if i can snatch a strix one

https://tenor.com/view/cocaine-strix-gang-strix-3090-rtx-white-gif-22429477

[potent portal]

Yeah that's still half the MSRP of the 3090

[empty pollen]

hell, if i get that desperate i will buy a 4080 by xmas at 900usd no problem

[untold beacon]

What

Did I come back to

[potent portal]

40 series pricing rumors

[untold beacon]

Big gpu update on my brain

[empty pollen]

and lay back on a b660+13700f

[potent portal]

No B760 for better memory traces?

[empty pollen]

deppends on the money xD, thats the worst case scenario where i buy a 4080

if i go 4070 then yes, 760

[untold beacon]

True

4070 I will buy for sure as long as it’s not above $750

[potent portal]

Keep in mind that's only MSRP and the founder's edition will probably be the only one at that price

[empty pollen]

yup

[potent portal]

I wonder if Best buy will be the exclusive seller of FE cards again?

[empty pollen]

add 50-100 more for an aib version

ill try to get an ftw, trio or strix anyway

[untold beacon]

I mean I get coupons all the time from Best Buy anywhere from $10 to $800

[empty pollen]

it all depends on pricing

[untold beacon]

Highest one I got was $800

When I bought two freezers

[potent portal]

Oh appliance coupons lol

[untold beacon]

Took 7 months for both to finally be here together 😂

[potent portal]

I was about to say...

[untold beacon]

Yep that’s the market

[empty pollen]

maybe i fall back to 13600k as bacca

[potent portal]

I rent so appliances aren't on my radar at all

[empty pollen]

to save more money for the gpu

[untold beacon]

Ah

[potent portal]

13500 will have e-cores too

[untold beacon]

Not bad to rent in this time

[empty pollen]

yeah but ill try to stay at k versions for the better binned silicon

[potent portal]

And better memory overclocking, I saw something about non-K being limited to 1V SA

[untold beacon]

Same

[empty pollen]

yeah the SA thing limit most mem to 3200 thse days

[untold beacon]

I heard k is better then the nons and well

[potent portal]

Yes, if you want gear 1 1T

[empty pollen]

easily 4000c18 on gear 1 on a k chip

well, not that easy but doable

[potent portal]

That's xmp for my memory lol

[empty pollen]

should be easier to get that on raptor lake

i hope

[untold beacon]

So the big talk

Which do we think is gonna be better

4090

[potent portal]

I'd be targeting ddr5 on rpl

[untold beacon]

Or 7900xt

[empty pollen]

we dont know

[untold beacon]

Guess

[strong raft]

For 13th gen K sku sort of changes back to just meaning OC. 13500 is the interesting one, being a downclocked 13600. 13400 is probably gonna be super popular. Hopefully under $200 like the 12400 usually is.

[potent portal]

7970 XT

[untold beacon]

It’s a guessing game

Alright

We got one for amd

[empty pollen]

still between the 7970 and titan.... thats another game

[untold beacon]

True but the big two I’m going at

[potent portal]

That's not a typo, 7900 XT is not the highest chip

[untold beacon]

Amd and nvida

The Titian’s of graphics card

I mean I think the 4090 might win this one

But amd might have a chance indeed

If they do that whatever 2 gpu thing

Fal said the name early for it

[empty pollen]

well we know next to nothing about both cards, not without any meaningful benchmarks

[potent portal]

MCM

[untold beacon]

True

[empty pollen]

multidie

[untold beacon]

YES

that

[empty pollen]

maybe amd will win this one

[untold beacon]

Maybe

Time will tell

Time will tell

[empty pollen]

for now, ill keep saving dollar after dollar for the big launches

maybe ill gather 2k for xmas

:3

[potent portal]

The thing is, AMD cards should be cheaper as well. Having multiple dies like that means they don't have as much wasted silicon wafers and they don't need to be as precise cutting them, unlike Nvidia and their massive single die.

[empty pollen]

and massive power hungry gpus

[untold beacon]

True but they got to make there money some how

[empty pollen]

amd for sure will be more power firendly

[untold beacon]

Yep

[potent portal]

Yes there's no doubt AMD will be more efficient watts per frame

[untold beacon]

Because they cool like that

[empty pollen]

amd is doing better than nvidia

they provide gpus for consoles

[untold beacon]

Yep for watts anyways and a few other things

Yep

[empty pollen]

unlike nvidia and the overstock of 30 series cards

thats why they can afford better priced and more power friendly gpus

[potent portal]

That's why they're not being hit as hard with the overstock issue, they can just reallocate more to consoles. They're still flying off shelves.

[untold beacon]

Like the Xbox Series X really impressed with that thing 4k 120fps solid for $500 that’s crazy

Amd created a beast

[empty pollen]

yeah nvidia lose the bet on miners, amd is chillin... thats why we have that many leaks on nvidia cards

[untold beacon]

Of a gpu for that thing

[empty pollen]

they purposely give those leaks to build hype

[potent portal]

They take a loss on console cost and make it back with games purchased from the store

[empty pollen]

amd dont need to do that, they are ok just the way they are

[untold beacon]

Did u guys hear about Sony

[empty pollen]

yeah, they build tvs right?

[untold beacon]

Well that to

But

That they are getting sued for 5 billion dollars

Or 5 million it was one of the two

[potent portal]

What is it this time? Class action suit from developers again?

[empty pollen]

5.9 billion god d**n

[potent portal]

Yep https://www.ign.com/articles/sony-being-sued-for-5-billion-over-playstation-store-prices

[untold beacon]

Because a certain guy who proved that they are actually charging the users more money for what the game actually costs retail price so the ps store can sell a game at whatever they want and this guy and a few others are suing them

Yep

What I was saying

[empty pollen]

well sony being sony... as always

[untold beacon]

Yep

[potent portal]

That's literally their business model, take a loss on consoles and overcharge for games

[untold beacon]

Yep

[empty pollen]

well thats all for me folks, have a good nite lads

👋

[potent portal]

G'night

[untold beacon]

Well Xbox has been trying to make Xbox live free because they think that it defeats the whole purpose of buying a game to play online and then having to pay for a subscription online

Alright good night dude

See ya

[potent portal]

Aren't they the ones that started that crap though LMFAO

[untold beacon]

Yeah

They are trying to make Online play free basically

But obviously gotta pay for the games

Microsoft has been working on this for like 3 years now

[potent portal]

Sony only started charging because people were using the argument "Xbox live is better because you have to pay for it"

[untold beacon]

Yeah true

But Microsoft has been trying to change that for years

Because they realized that why pay for a subscription online when u gotta pay for the game to play online

[still roost]

Taybeast#1077 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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Crap

Make a crap ton of money still

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Just think of it like another microtransaction

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Yeah

Well