#building-and-recc-chat

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frigid night
fossil cedar
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Yes sucking crap is a technical term for gaming on a mac

glacial basin
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Looks sick, what pc do you have ?

cyan ravine
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P12 fangirl like me???

mossy venture
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P12s>

glacial basin
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
glacial basin
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Hahahahah made me laugh that and nice that’s the good thing about PC’s you can upgrade

rich void
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
cyan ravine
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What if snek cartwheeled

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Do it be runnin or be zoomin?

rich void
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
glacial basin
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Do you need a certain motherboard for ddr5 ram

worn wave
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Yes, you need a motherboard that supports DDR5 RAM.

glacial basin
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I see, pretty new to this. Is there a good motherboard that supports all the latest parts ?

frigid night
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Gpu?

glacial basin
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rtx 3080/3090. DDR5 RAM

frigid night
glacial basin
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prob AMD i think

frigid night
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Welp. Then I can be of no further use to you. I know nothing about AMD cpu/mobo

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Sorry 😛

fossil cedar
frigid night
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I like intel

fossil cedar
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Yes

frigid night
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❤️

fossil cedar
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Atm there is 0 amd desktop cpus that support ddr5

glacial basin
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how do you guys keep on top of the pc stuff, seems like its a never-ending money pit having a custom PC which you constantly need/want to upgrade parts?

cyan ravine
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by not upgrading constantly

south cliff
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forza 4 is acting weird with my wheel its like very sensetive but dirt 5 is totally fine

cyan ravine
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forza in general is weird with wheels

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lots of ffb issues I've seen over the years

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it doesn't even properly work with direct drive

south cliff
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yeah but i barley turn the wheel and im going side ways

frigid night
south cliff
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dirt 5 is doing me good tho and im having fun with it

frigid night
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Or.. You just have a lot of money and don't care.

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ORR you didn't do your research before you built your first PC so you end up spending an enormous amount more building the PC you really wanted.

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I'll let you decide which category I fit into XD

frigid night
glacial basin
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hahhahaha

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random question but does favourites on your browser cause it to slow down or does it consume more memory the more you have. Only because i have a lot on my favourites bar in chrome

potent portal
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It'll be negligible

frigid night
modest bone
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I am looking for a computer build with a budget of 700$ roughly but I don't need an SSD or an hard drive because I'm striping my pc for that, I am also in need of 32 gbs of ram because I'm look to stream.

fossil cedar
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Might be able to bring psu case forward etc

modest bone
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what do you mean by cab im not familiar with that word?

fossil cedar
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Typo :)

modest bone
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but my current PC is Radeon RX 580Series I have 16 gbs ram and my CPU is a intel(R) core(TM) i5-7400

fossil cedar
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oh what power supply, case and what speed ram you have?

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might be able to reuse some and save money/get better parts

modest bone
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I am not sure what speed my ram is

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but my power supply is 450

fossil cedar
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you can check the sticker on it or download and run cpu-z or hwinfo64

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okay gonna need a new power supply

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what case?

modest bone
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an acer prebuild one

fossil cedar
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ah okay

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ram is probably slow then

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might be better off selling your current pc and getting a new ssd btw

modest bone
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i also need a new motherboard because that is also from the prebuilt

fossil cedar
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yeah no good cpus or cpus you can buy will fit in that board anyway

modest bone
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yeah

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this was the computer that i was thinking to buy but i didnt have the money

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i dont need the ssd tho

fossil cedar
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yeah but if you sell your current pc as a whole you would get more than enough for an ssd if you get me

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anyway

modest bone
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im not sure i want to do that tho

fossil cedar
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what you going to do with the current pc then if not sell it?

modest bone
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i was going to give my current pc to my brother but im taking the ssd

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or i would sell it after i get the computer

fossil cedar
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ah right, well you will need to buy a new ssd for that build anyway and do a windows reinstall so may as put the new ssd in your pc

modest bone
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i mean if it fits in the budget then sure

fossil cedar
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id do that

modest bone
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i see that you put an intel core i3 does that mean that its not as good as say an i5?

fossil cedar
modest bone
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ok

rich void
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Can also depend on what you're throwing at it

modest bone
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but also my current ssd is better than the one that you put in i would rather spend the money on something else

rich void
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At this point as you go up the product stack you're mostly getting more cores. That doesn't always translate into better performance for every task (or much of a gain if there is one)

modest bone
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I'm guessing its bad to mismatch memory's but could I theoretically do that? with the pc still working

fossil cedar
modest bone
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thats true

rich void
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Yeah newer generations of hardware can offer big gains

fossil cedar
modest bone
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I dont know if this helps but this is what im seeing CT1000MX500SSD4

fossil cedar
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thats a larger ssd, the one i put in the list is faster

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not really anything you can do with another 35$ thats worth it anyway

modest bone
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But i would use that space way faster

fossil cedar
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yeye makes sense just letting you know

modest bone
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I haven't ran into any problems with the SSD that I own and use regularly

fossil cedar
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Yeah perfectly good ssd just remember to reinstall windows

modest bone
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alright my father is good with computers so we should be able to do that

fossil cedar
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I really wouldn't go 32gb ram with a 4 core cpu

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If anything I'd spend that money going to 12400f

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Or the msi board

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Just the asrock ones cheaper

modest bone
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yeah I would just like to have that extra ram for streaming i think i can squeeze out the budget to 750 if you could add a 32 gb instead?

fossil cedar
modest bone
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what does ram give you then?

mossy venture
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Would drop to like 2 frames per minute whenever a gun fight happened

modest bone
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would ram help with stuttering or is that something else?

mossy venture
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But id still get a 12400f and 16gb over 12100f and 32gb

mossy venture
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Ram oc would help with 1% lows

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But not more ram

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Or save for a bit longer and get 12400f and 32gb

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Or get 16gb and add more later

modest bone
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well i was thinking 12400f and 32gbs of ram

desert gulch
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More ram can help when you have a hungry game and all your streaming crap open sometimes

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I've hit my 16gb limit with just a game before, kek

modest bone
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yeah does the game crash if you hit the 16gb limit?

fossil cedar
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Nah it will just go into page file instead

desert gulch
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Not usually

modest bone
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also just normally with 16 gbs im using 6.5 without games

desert gulch
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It'll just run like crap

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Swap memory starts kicking in at full capacity so you'd probs see a really horrible gaming experience

modest bone
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yeah

desert gulch
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Pagefile and swap memory are both the same, the PC will start to use your drive as a temporary memory

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But since that's not near as quick as ram is, that's where you can see some pretty bad gaming expirience

modest bone
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i see yeah

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cause normally when im streaming my game is lagging and stuttering when it normally doesn't when not streaming

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also just playing warzone without streaming is hard on my computer

mossy venture
modest bone
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ok so thats normal

formal plover
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Troubleshooting rn

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The pc isn't complete so these aren't really for looks

mossy venture
formal plover
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Get it to turn on

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New build for my friend

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Doesn't post

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Only sign of life is the psu light is on

mossy venture
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Checked cpu pins?

formal plover
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Yeah cpu installed fine

mossy venture
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Tried other ram slots?

formal plover
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I can try removing a stick

rich void
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Did you double check the front panel connector?

mossy venture
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Try one in just the third slot

formal plover
desert gulch
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@formal plover what's the connector going into the CPU power say?

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Wanna make sure you didn't plug in pcie/GPU to eps/cpu

subtle halo
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sadly he cant stream at general .. can u see special gaming vc @formal plover

formal plover
modest bone
desert gulch
subtle halo
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ow u can live stream at twitch @formal plover

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we will watch

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xD

desert gulch
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I'd reccomend a b660m (pro a MSI or mortar) typically

formal plover
desert gulch
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Punny man

subtle halo
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make sure you plug it all the way

rich void
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Is it just me or is that gray one plugged in at a weird angle?

formal plover
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I'm showing a cam here

modest bone
desert gulch
formal plover
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Then u can put questions in chat or something

subtle halo
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i have msi before it should atleast have lights when u plug everything fine

but heres the crazy part when i broke my mobo.. the mobo wont light up when i put cpu in xD.. i short my mobo for some reason

formal plover
rich void
subtle halo
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u sitll offline sad delay twitch

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its good now

formal plover
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Wait

desert gulch
formal plover
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It closes the stream when I switch to discord

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Lemme try split screen

subtle halo
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ok everyone just chat on twitch

modest bone
desert gulch
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Ok

formal plover
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username is flite001

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Doesn't let me send invite link

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I'm doing split screen with twitch and discord

mossy venture
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Non modular though

modest bone
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what do you mean non modular?

mossy venture
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All the cables are already part of the psu

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Not ones you plug into the psu

modest bone
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oh i see

desert gulch
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you gonna stream with it?

modest bone
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yeah mostly

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most likely*

desert gulch
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aight

subtle halo
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hes streaming his pc

desert gulch
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do you need wifi @modest bone ?

modest bone
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no i have ethernet

desert gulch
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aight cool

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rip, fitting this all in is gonna be really difficult

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but thats only 6600 so maybe someone else can take a shot at getting a 6600xt in or something

modest bone
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ok

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what does the custom mean?

formal plover
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6600 is an excellent value

modest bone
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isnt the 12400f cheaper than the 12400 without f?

mossy venture
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But aside from that looks about as good as it'll get

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5600 and a cheap b550 might be a bit less

modest bone
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is there any performance differences?

desert gulch
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so not much of a difference

modest bone
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ok

desert gulch
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plus with 12400 you get QSV

desert gulch
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sure but QSV better

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its like $7 over the f to get the non f, its worth imo

modest bone
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ok

fossil cedar
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Means downgrading to 6600 non xt tho too

desert gulch
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its already over budget by like $65

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QSV is quicksync video

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so just easier of saying quicksync

modest bone
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yeah im not sure i can get much more than 750-760 ill ask tho

desert gulch
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yeah i get it

modest bone
fossil cedar
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But useless if gpu has encoder

rich void
modest bone
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so what do you think of the computer i put in chat?

fossil cedar
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Worse gpu for better cpu ehh

modest bone
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isnt the cpu good tho

fossil cedar
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Boards not great eirher

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Cpu is good yes

modest bone
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well th board isnt going to change the computer

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like the performance

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but its a good mid tier computer

analog hearth
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upgrading the CPU doesn’t always mean better performance, but you can for sure upgrade the GPU without worrying as much about bottlenecks

modest bone
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yeah it also mean that i dont have to spend more on motherboards

analog hearth
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ye but don’t sacrifice a good motherboard for a better CPU

modest bone
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also the motherboard doesnt change the performance right?

timid dragon
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Hey anybody ever had trouble connecting their controller to their pc?

tropic laurel
desert gulch
# tropic laurel trying to help a friend, his Corsair iCUE H170i ELITE is plugged in, Icue detect...
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heres some stuff to try straight from corsair themselves

stone warren
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im very tempted to go back to an AIO cpu pump and get rid of my loop

modest bone
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changing motherboards only affect how much ram slots and stuff not game performance right?

stone warren
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some motherboards handle heavy load differently, temps, cooling, fan slots, m.2 support, etc

jagged ember
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if you're overclocking

stone warren
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^

jagged ember
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if you're just using it for gaming and stuff

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yes

modest bone
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ok thanks

tropic laurel
stone warren
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finally had a min to sit down and take apart my water loop and fully clean it out. that distro plate was a ginormous pain in my butt

stone warren
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thanks 😄

sudden orchid
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are graphics card brackets worth buying?

frigid night
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But they are worth having either way.

fossil cedar
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You can literally use anything like even lego

potent portal
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Have you seen the Lego PC case?

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I bet all those bricks cost more than a regular case by far lol

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But it'll be very structurally sound at least

frigid night
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I have so many legos it's ridiculous.

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I haven't played with them in years.

potent portal
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You'll probably need a 3D printer or some scrap mounting parts from an old case to do it

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Things like the PSU mount are very precisely measured, but a removable mount could be repurposed easily.

frigid night
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Hm. My friend has a company that has "use it or lose it" funding for peoples bills and they are about to lose it so I'm gonna use it.. maybe I'll look into getting a 3d printer with the saved money.

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Any recommendations? I see them on sale all the time on newegg, but I know nothing about 3d printers to be able to discern if they are even that good.

potent portal
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I've never touched a 3D printer so I'm of no help there

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I think LTT had a bunch of them and reviewed some?

frigid night
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I don't need some top of the line super expensive 3d printer. But quality:price is preferred.

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So otherwise.. not really.

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Hm. Is there one that does both?

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I'm sure I could make use of both.

frigid night
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I apologize for late reply. I will have some questions here in a bit. I ended up getting busy and still got a little bit to do. Didn't want you to think I was ignoring you.

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So if I were to want to print box mods for vaping.. which one would I be wanting to go for? I will also want to be making stands for the vapes and various other items. How would I go about adding threads into the 3d printed item for things like atty stands where the 510 pin could screw into. I would also like to be able to have detail as in my own logo or any logo/decal in the printed item as well if possible..

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The resin printer you mentioned miniatures.. inassume the resin is a smaller filament that can be more precise with where it's placed by the printer?

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Is there not an all in one printer that I can just swap out little bits of hardware here and there to convert it when I need it to be one or the other?

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Without sacrificing performance/quality of either one?

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Oh ok

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Looks like I'm gonna need to be doing some research then.

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Ah I see. Hm. I do not have the room atm I think to be messy and have to cure stuff.

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Yeah I kinda figured that would be the better way.

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Alright. I'll start looking into the ones you suggested. As far as the fookoos Odin 5.. what kind of tinkering and upgrading would I be looking at? Would that make the cost go above something else of comparable performance that doesn't require tinkering or upgrading?

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This is what I'm looking at right?

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What kind of tinkering and upgrading would I need to be doing for it?

fossil cedar
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I saw kraken and almost got triggered thought you where talking about the aio kek

frigid night
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Autolevel bedmesh? I kinda understand what raspberry pi is, but couldn't whatever is on that be used on my PC? And I take it garolite is the plate that the print starts on?

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As far as the kraken heatbreak.. that would be compatible with this printer?

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Ok. Do you have a link?

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I'm unsure of what I'm looking at. I will get all this at once if I decide to get a printer. Fookoos seems like it might be exactly what I'd need.

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I'll just have to learn it as I have it.

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This was done with that fookoos. Looks like good enough detail for me.

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@pliant swallow you def opened a can of questions. XD

frigid night
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@pliant swallow whats up with the Ender 3? It seems like thats a highly rated beginner one?

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I guess I'm wondering how it compares to the fookoos?

trim lynx
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hello i see a laptop lenovo idea pad 3 650$ i510300h 8 ram gtx1650 ti is it good 120 hz fresh rate

fossil cedar
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Should be able to get a 1660 or 3050 laptop for that price

cyan ravine
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But that fresh rate is good

obsidian wigeon
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but 1650ti sucks

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so badly

cyan ravine
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But fresh rate

jagged ember
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But 1650ti

cyan ravine
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But it's too fresh

olive cypress
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1650ti mobile = 1650 desktop ≈ rx6400 = bad

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3050mobile is slightly better but not by much. So yes, 3050 laptop you should aim for that

mossy venture
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Would DCS world run on a 1660 decently?

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Friends asking for a $500 build, I've got a spare 1660 I could give him if it'll work well

fossil cedar
frigid night
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That's what I expected. The vendor delivery guy at my work is swearing it up and down as he is also telling me about all the issues he has encountered.

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I'm really thinking of going with the Fokoos Odin 5 because I think it's small enough for me, however I still need to do some research before I make a decision. I was at work last night so that is why I kept asking all those questions. I'm home now though so once I'm done with my class, I will be looking into it much deeper.

mossy venture
fossil cedar
olive cypress
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Distributed control system? weggUh

modest bone
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just the last step to get this one

frigid night
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To me it looks like you would have to try and find cheaper "possibly" RAM or go with a cheaper MOBO, which then again for a price cut you would be sacrificing more performance than the amount you are saving.

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IMO just go mow a lawn or something and get that $15.

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Clean out an old ladies ( @frank stirrup 's mom) garage for $20 or something.

frigid night
modest bone
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do you think buying a use one is viable?

frigid night
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I spent $200 on my cooler.

modest bone
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wow

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i guess thats true ill have to haggle

fossil cedar
modest bone
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wdym?

frigid night
# modest bone wdym?

He helped you reduce the price of your previous list further by swapping out the gpu you had for a better/cheaper GPU that you have in your list currently.

modest bone
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ohh thanks that really saved my life

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i think i could get it but it maybe hard, but i believe ill find a way

frigid night
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Where there is a will.. there is a way.

modest bone
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thank you guys for all the help

modest bone
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@fossil cedar what was that half a TB SSD name, I might need to add it

fossil cedar
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Team mp33

modest bone
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thanks

willow quest
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Which fan speed option on bios do I ignore so I don’t get the “cpu fan error” in boot

modest bone
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im not sure?

jagged ember
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did you plug in your CPU fan into the right header

modest bone
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i dont have the computer yet

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if thats what your asking

jagged ember
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referring to pyro lol

jagged ember
modest bone
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yeah

broken lake
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Ok so my new aio finally came in

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What is the best way to clean off my cpu?

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Microfiber and rubbing alcohol?

rich void
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Yeah, I usually try to get the CPU warmed up a bit with a benchmark to loosen things up. You want high proof rubbing alcohol, I go with 99% but you can go a bit lower as well

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Just be gentle

broken lake
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Ok

frigid night
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I just wipe excess off first with a paper towel. Then I use 70% alchohol wipes to get the remainder (IHS will be nice and shiny) then I wipe down with microfiber just to make sure.. then I give it a blast of canned air.

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As far as gentle.. Just don't be like pushing down on the CPU super hard. I mean the bracket pretty well is doing a good job holding it down tight.

broken lake
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I think I got it good enough

frigid night
still roostBOT
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Vanya#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

frigid night
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give me a sec*

broken lake
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Ok

olive cypress
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But it's ok

broken lake
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lol

frigid night
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try to move your bracket to where those are even

olive cypress
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Unless you want .1C less and put it exactly in the center

broken lake
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Ok I’ll do that

frigid night
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may as well since you are already right there

empty pollen
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looks beautiful tho

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nice cleaning

rich void
rugged charm
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Hey! What's everyone running for a case and 360mm aio? Last items I need beside a gpu. Rocking a b550 taichi. Decent airglow and possibly with rgb. Can always buy fans if the case is cheaper and/or comes without.

broken lake
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This better??

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I am procrastinating starting this build so hard

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I’m so nervous that I’m gonna break something

empty pollen
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was the same for all of us

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just take your time, no rush

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and ask if in doubt 🙂

broken lake
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👍

spring pine
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is newegg a good place to buy gpus from

empty pollen
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never had a problem buying from egg

broken lake
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Bruhhhhh

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I think I need to buy more stuff

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This aio needs a separate mounting thing that apparently doesn’t come with it

drowsy zodiac
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probably the lga1700 i’d assume lol

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you could email the place you got it from and they should send it free, my air cooler didn’t come with the mounting bracket and they mailed me it free of charge

broken lake
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I could do that but I want it today

drowsy zodiac
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gotcha

broken lake
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Are the lga 1700 brackets specific to coolers or could I just go to micro center and grab one

drowsy zodiac
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yeah i’m not sure then tbh i’d leave it up to someone else to tell you what to do

broken lake
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Like does this only work with the msi mag coreliquid or will it work with mine?

drowsy zodiac
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where’s felix lol he would know

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@cyan ravine

broken lake
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Felix save meeeee XD

drowsy zodiac
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fr lol

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i’m pretty sure there for specific coolers but don’t take that whole heart because i’m not 100% sure lol

cyan ravine
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Matters by the threading of the screws rather than the fitment of the bracket

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Also that bracket looks plastic which is kinda meh

drowsy zodiac
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mine just arrived today and it’s plastic but oh well

cyan ravine
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Yours is a 12400f dun matter lol

broken lake
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The one that came with it is also plastic

drowsy zodiac
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lol

cyan ravine
broken lake
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I have a cooler master

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That’s why I was asking if it only worked with a mag core

cyan ravine
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Oh right

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My b it's 5am

broken lake
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lol all good

cyan ravine
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Does your board also have lga 1200 compatibility holes at all?

broken lake
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No

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Just the 4 holes

cyan ravine
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Does cm make one?

broken lake
earnest olive
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you may get poor mounting pressure

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or worst case break a standoff or something

cyan ravine
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Or just won't mount at all sometimes

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Ok @broken lake they can send you one

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Only available on the cooler master store apparently

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This one? I think

little osprey
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If the black part rises slightly on one side

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Is that bad?

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For cpu

cyan ravine
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Wha

broken lake
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Damn another like week to ship

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Damn

cyan ravine
little osprey
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The black part under cpu

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On bottom left

cyan ravine
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You mean the pga socket?

little osprey
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Yes

cyan ravine
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Wha-

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How did you get that lifted?

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Is the cpu ok??

little osprey
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Pulling out the old cpu

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Before

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The new I got

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Wondering if maybe thats why B1&2 doesnt work

cyan ravine
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That's likely a good indication

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If you can show a pic please that would help

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Would be good to see if any cpu pins are bent

little osprey
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Ooop

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It broke off

broken lake
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Uh oh

little osprey
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Its fairly intact

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Any way I can glue it back

cyan ravine
broken lake
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I feel like that’s not something you can just glue back

cyan ravine
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Like

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Don't do anything else

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Just pic of the socket

little osprey
cyan ravine
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Ok well I see why your ram sticks are half working now

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Paste in the socket

empty pollen
broken lake
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Is this the right one?

empty pollen
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the brackets are different depending on the model

little osprey
#

Above the socket*

empty pollen
#

the aio pal

cyan ravine
little osprey
#

It didnt get in

empty pollen
#

which one did you have

cyan ravine
#

I'm gonna show you lol

broken lake
little osprey
#

Cpu goes in fine

cyan ravine
little osprey
#

Ik

#

Its above

cyan ravine
#

That interferes with the pin contact

empty pollen
# broken lake

603005870-GP/603006060-GP- this is the socket that you need

little osprey
#

There is no MoBo that supports 5000 series on delivery

empty pollen
#

so yes, it works

little osprey
empty pollen
#

is the 603005870

cyan ravine
empty pollen
little osprey
#

So isopro used on it fix it?

empty pollen
#

even the 603006060 can work

broken lake
#

Ok because this one has 1 say shipping instead of the 5-6 day shipping on their website

cyan ravine
#

You gotta get the paste out which is extremely difficult

#

Tbh I wouldn't touch it now that it's damaged

little osprey
#

Isopro would melt it, no?

cyan ravine
#

No

#

Isopro would clean it but probably not the way you'd hope for

earnest olive
# little osprey

exhibit 583927272 on why I'm glad amd is moving to a real socket next gen

empty pollen
earnest olive
#

so this doesn't happen anymore

earnest olive
#

dude when I was switching from my 5800x to my 12100 I was lowkey scared to unmount the cooler from the 5800x

empty pollen
#

we are humans after all

little osprey
#

Cleaned thermal paste off top and missed a lil on edges and placing in it got in

broken lake
#

I’m just confused on how much paste you have to put on in order to get paste under the cpu XD

earnest olive
#

filter evade mushstare

#

getting thermal paste in the socket is pretty common

#

thermal paste gets everywhere

little osprey
#

Accurate

empty pollen
#

hate the profanity buzzer

#

😄

broken lake
#

It got my name XD

earnest olive
#

you're not supposed to dodge it

little osprey
#

Any intel board/cpu bundle around 200?

earnest olive
#

you know you can change your own nickname right

broken lake
#

Yea I know

#

This is funny tho

earnest olive
rich void
little osprey
rich void
#

Unless a company is shipping motherboards with truly ancient bios they should all work

little osprey
#

X570 doesnt without update

cyan ravine
#

A 12100f + b660m ds3h gets close to 200 @little osprey

earnest olive
#

are X570S guaranteed to support zen 3?

empty pollen
#

that depends on how much time was your mobo on the shelf actually

#

maybe you are unlucky

earnest olive
#

I think X570S are the only boards that are guaranteed

rich void
#

X570 can come with the right bios. 5000 series has been out a while

earnest olive
#

otherwise there's a small chance you get a board without zen 3 support

cyan ravine
#

Would get a b550 with bios flash button

little osprey
#

So a new b450 would work too?

#

Potentially

empty pollen
#

yup, am4 mobo must have a flash bios support somewhere

#

to avoid any bad luck on the shelf

little osprey
#

I cant afford the extra 50 for b550

empty pollen
#

maybe you wont need it after all, but better safe than sorry

cyan ravine
#

You have a 200 budget lol

rich void
#

Huh?

earnest olive
cyan ravine
#

What you mean you can't

rich void
#

X570 is usually more costly than b550

earnest olive
#

but no reason to buy new b450

broken lake
#

Ok bracket has been ordered

cyan ravine
earnest olive
#

used b450 is so cheap now

broken lake
#

Amazon prime one day is saving me

little osprey
earnest olive
#

what cpu is it

cyan ravine
#

Refund which cpu??

little osprey
#

5600

cyan ravine
earnest olive
#

yeah I wouldn't go from 5600 to 12100

#

says the guy who went from 5800x to 12100

cyan ravine
#

So how much can you spend?

earnest olive
#

speaking of that

#

I found out something huge yesterday

little osprey
#

100ish

cyan ravine
#

Was it a tower

earnest olive
#

I thought my board had no bclk control

cyan ravine
earnest olive
#

but it just has no bclk control on locked cpus

#

so once I upgrade I will no longer be stuck at 99.76mhz

#

no more ddr4-3590 lmao

little osprey
#

Preferably under 100

cyan ravine
#

Cheapest with bios flash and wifi

earnest olive
#

check used market

#

b450 is ancient tech

#

I've seen decent b450s that could run 5950x for $30ish

cyan ravine
#

Used you could get the seller to update bios for a few bucks

#

Then get a much cheaper board

earnest olive
#

lol ok just checked hws and some clown is asking $200 for a midrange x470

little osprey
#

Hws?

earnest olive
#

my guy what year do you think we're living in

#

r/hardwareswap

little osprey
#

Oh

earnest olive
#

ebay is also decent for motherboards

#

I got an insane deal for my mobo on ebay

#

$100 shipped for msi z690-a pro ddr4

#

perfect functional and cosmetic condition

#

not even a single thermal paste stain in sight

little osprey
#

I mostly see "for parts" on ebay

#

Couldnt I just replace the socket?

earnest olive
#

you can filter them out

little osprey
#

It seemed to be seperate anyways

earnest olive
#

replacing socket is a bit harder than you think lol

little osprey
#

The thin plastic piece?

earnest olive
#

how are your micro soldering skills?

#

if it was easy nobody would sell bent pin boards as is

little osprey
#

The thin plastic piece is where its messed up

cyan ravine
#

Not easy

earnest olive
#

that thin plastic piece is there to protect very tiny and very breakable pins

cyan ravine
#

That plastic piece can come out tho but at this point that board is pretty butchered

#

You're already running single channel

#

Single channel on ryzen at that

earnest olive
#

current board might be fixable enough to get back into dual channel

cyan ravine
#

Maybe

earnest olive
#

is single channel on intel really any better

earnest olive
#

board

#

wtf was that

little osprey
#

A double S

earnest olive
#

I don't think I have german keyboard on my phone LOL

little osprey
#

Looked greek tho

#

🤔

earnest olive
#

yeah I dunno

#

damn it felix

#

now you making me want to pop out one of my dimms and bench some 16gb single channel b-die

#

on an i3

#

with a 3090

#

CPU bottleneck let's gooo

cyan ravine
mossy venture
#

Not as bad as 10100 and 3090

earnest olive
#

I am almost certain that dual channel 10100 beats single channel 12100

cyan ravine
#

Do single channel but them RAM OC it as tight as it goes

earnest olive
#

it's already running really good ram for a 12100

cyan ravine
#

3733 CL11 sandalthrow

earnest olive
#

I got a lucky sample

#

can do 3600 gear 1 dual rank

mossy venture
#

Missed that part

earnest olive
#

this kit runs 3733c12 at 2 volts

#

so how much does it need for c11

#

lmao

mossy venture
#

2 volts

#

Wat

#

How hot does that run

earnest olive
#

maybe 3733c11 at 2.2v

cyan ravine
#

2.2 and cold probably LUL

mossy venture
earnest olive
#

so I dunno

#

probably not that bad

cyan ravine
#

Never hot enough probably

earnest olive
#

my b-die hit 48.5c while gaming yesterday

#

oof

cyan ravine
#

For benching anyway

earnest olive
#

it was a bit of a worst case scenario

little osprey
#

Can someone find me a board cpu combo under 200?

earnest olive
#

but luckily my game didn't crash

#

I've had mem errors pop up as low as 47c

little osprey
#

6core preferably

mossy venture
earnest olive
#

just keep the 5600

#

you won't beat the 5600 if you need a board+cpu for 200

little osprey
#

🤔

#

I cant afford a new board though without saving up

cyan ravine
#

Get an updated bios 2nd hand board or get the pro-vdm wifi

mossy venture
#

And you won't consider used?

earnest olive
#

I mean it won't kill you to use your current board as is

little osprey
#

Yea

earnest olive
#

you should try to clean it

mossy venture
#

What's the current board?

earnest olive
#

and see if you can get the second channel back

little osprey
#

How to clean it tho

earnest olive
little osprey
#

The thermal*

cyan ravine
mossy venture
#

Ah

earnest olive
#

isopropyl alcohol

mossy venture
#

Dayum

little osprey
#

B450

mossy venture
#

I thought my breaking the pcie lock was bad

cyan ravine
#

I thought popping out my socket was bad kek

earnest olive
#

I thought breaking my 3090 was bad

#

oh wait it still is

cyan ravine
#

Ok mr. Flex

earnest olive
#

you don't want to know how many 3090s seby broke if you think that's a flex

cyan ravine
#

You don't need to tell me for me to believe it

little osprey
#

Why is it failing to send pic

earnest olive
#

vrm explosion moment

little osprey
#

"Bad network request"

#

Trying to send pic of under plastic where broke off if any bent

#

I only see what I believe to be sockets tho

#

Anyone there?

stoic island
#

Discord might think it's explicit for some reason

little osprey
#

How

cyan ravine
#

Try another pic

mossy venture
#

Dm me it

#

I'll try posting it

stoic island
#

It told me my hand with a Swiss army knife was explicit and didn't let me send

#

Editing the picture to be smaller let it post

#

If you got something in the socket and need to clean it out, isopropyl alcohol and maybe use a needle or toothpick

mossy venture
little osprey
#

Weird

earnest olive
#

that is definitely explicit

#

it's making me feel something not good

little osprey
#

XD

cyan ravine
#

3 pins on the corner?

little osprey
#

Thats a blank spot

#

Look at other sides

cyan ravine
#

Ah

#

Oh yeah it is lol

#

Other pins seem fine orientation wise

little osprey
#

I believe those are holes

#

Not pins

cyan ravine
#

Well yes from what I can see

#

Usually on pga you check the cpu pins not the socket pins

little osprey
#

Yea

cyan ravine
#

There's also

little osprey
#

So if I put cpu in with it like that it be fine?

cyan ravine
#

So much paste

little osprey
#

Im not good with sticky stuff

#

😔

cyan ravine
drowsy zodiac
#

bruh

little osprey
#

XD

drowsy zodiac
#

what did i just read smh

cyan ravine
#

Either way you need to wash the sticky stuff off the socket

little osprey
#

You didnt see it

cyan ravine
#

Not literally wash but clean

little osprey
#

That makes 10x better

cyan ravine
little osprey
#

XD

drowsy zodiac
#

bruh

#

i read it

little osprey
#

Yes you

#

Not him

mossy venture
#

Z690a ddr5 is $145

#

Mmmm

little osprey
#

Honestly dont care if its a downgrade from 5600 aslong as not worse than a 3600 if replace board and cpu

#

For 200

#

I was running a 3500x before the 5600

#

For a b550m steel legend

earnest olive
#

yeah i wouldn't buy it

#

if it was a1 or b1 maybe worth

#

if you already have a dac

#

or bt headphones

mossy venture
#

Not much better

little osprey
#

Tbh I think Im just gonna buy a ps5

#

Save up

#

By the time I save up should be in stock

analog pulsar
#

what kinda speeds would i get from an external hard drive

mossy venture
analog pulsar
#

would that be okay for games

mossy venture
#

Sure

analog pulsar
#

hm

#

okay another question what 4TB ssds are there thats 4.0 and are "okay" priced

mossy venture
#

Not a single one that I know of

#

Closest to those parameters would be sn770 I believe

little osprey
#

Talking*

analog pulsar
#

Nvme

mossy venture
#

Or maybe it was 750 that was 4tb, but that thing is a joke of a gen 4 drive

mossy venture
#

That would likely cost over $700

analog pulsar
#

lol

#

i mean i saw 4TB ssd for $479

mossy venture
#

That ssd is not the singular best gen 4 drive

#

Which is more expensive than an 8tb 870 qvo

#

Almost twice the price of 2 2tb s70s

mossy venture
#

Nice drive

#

One of the best iirc, bit worse than s70?

analog pulsar
mossy venture
#

Could be wrong on that

mossy venture
#

There is no 4tb version

analog pulsar
#

hm

mossy venture
#

What are you doing to need a 4tb gen 4 anyways

analog pulsar
#

I wanna download my games and other stuff

empty gyro
#

so I'm trying to build a pc mainly focusing at 1440p but I'm trying to decide what cpu+gpu combo is best for me, I am on budget of $1500 max for an entire pc. The current combos I have in mind are Ryzen 7 5800x + rx6700xt and i5 12400f + rx6800, could someone help me decide which i should get or any other suggestions you may have.

mossy venture
#

And that requires a gen 4 drive for why?

empty gyro
mossy venture
#

Gen 4 for games is the same as buying a 3090 for minecraft

mossy venture
analog pulsar
#

well my computer comes with 4.0 slot i wanna fill it with 4.0

mossy venture
#

Can even get a 12600kf and pa120

#

Didn't ignore anything

mossy venture
mossy venture
little osprey
#

anyone know a decent Prebuilt around 5-700$ that comes in white

mossy venture
#

And upgrade ram and add a 2tb hdd

#

Case is ass but best you'll do

#

Ye

empty gyro
mossy venture
#

But no, the 12400f is enough for a 3090 ti

#

And you can get a 12600kf with a peerless assassin 120 for the cooler if you'd like, would still fit in budget

#

And there's a $720 3080 12gb as well, if you'd prefer nvidia

little osprey
mossy venture
#

It's a single ram stick being clicked in and two cables

#

If they can't do that then idk what to tell them

#

Like, put the pc on its side and push on a rectangle

#

Plug two cables into a hard drive and plug one into the motherboard,

little osprey
#

what about for 1k? same deal?

mossy venture
#

No, one second

little osprey
#

I think 850 is the budget, or like near it, probably about 1k, but they need a whole setup, so 💀

mossy venture
#

That budget is very difficult for pre builts

#

Nothing would be better than that Walmart build, and as I said it is extremely easy to do the two upgrades it would need, and it also leaves plenty of room for peripherals and monitor

little osprey
#

the person isn't computer savvy at all

#

they on even know what the parts are prolly called or nothing like that

#

If anything they'd bring it to me or someone else to do it which I think was already off the table cause I already suggested doing a whole build for them and they said nah 🤷‍♀️

mossy venture
#

Idk what to tell you

#

It's either completely compromise on performance, spend more, or watch two YouTube videos and deal with it

#

Could also do that build and use an external hard drive...

#

For ram would need to add in the extra stick though

#

Not much of an alternative choice for that part

viral ore
#

yeah idk, seems like laziness to me

#

i was doing stuff like that at 8 years old

#

was probably just as clueless too

mossy venture
#

I pulled my first build apart with literally no knowledge of pcs

#

Though to be fair I did then take the backplate off my gpu thinking it was part of the case lmao

cyan ravine
#

I took my first one apart too

#

Nearly ripped the gpu out of the pcie slot lmfao

#

(I didn't but I almost did)

#

I did however fry an rgb strip

#

I stuck a 4 pin corsair rgb fan into a 4 pin 12v rgb plug thinking "oh it's just a different rgb plug" and killed it kek

mossy venture
#

I broke my pcie lock because I didn't undo it all the way

#

That was just a few months ago lol

cyan ravine
#

I did that just the other day

#

Went back in tho

high yew
#

how much y'all think i could get for a Gigabyte 3060 ti OC that i paid $850 for 3 months ago?

cyan ravine
#

So we good fam

#

400-ish?

mossy venture
cyan ravine
#

Maybe less

mossy venture
#

350-400, just check ebay sold listings

high yew
#

canada

cyan ravine
#

Oh

mossy venture
#

Ah

cyan ravine
#

600-ish?

mossy venture
#

500+, again check ebay sold listings

high yew
#

bet will do

#

3080 12 or 10?

cyan ravine
#

Better do it soon cos the nvidia price drops are coming

high yew
#

is that extra 2gb of vram worth the extra $200? lol

cyan ravine
#

More drops

#

No not 200

mossy venture
cyan ravine
#

50? Yes

mossy venture
#

Though there is a bit more of a difference between the two than just the vram

cyan ravine
#

100? Meh, yeah?

mossy venture
#

Nah

#

I'd say 75 hard limit

cyan ravine
#

Yea about 75 is where I stop smiling lol

mossy venture
#

Even that's pushing it

#

Oh Felix

#

Slime rancher 2 is dropping on the 22nd

cyan ravine
#

Ooo

#

I played the 1st one

#

Might have time for it next week, will see

high yew
mossy venture
#

Didn't share the right link

high yew
#

ffs

mossy venture
#

Also what's his budget

high yew
mossy venture
#

Can do cheaper on psu and case, also vuugo is a troll site

#

Insane shipping costs

high yew
#

nothing on there has vuugo?

high yew
mossy venture
#

Bq is fine enough under 750w

#

Wait the bq is vuugo

#

Ffs

#

@j.#6910

#

Tf

#

Discord you suck

#

@high yew

#

Actually prolly worth dropping back down to 6600xt to get a 1tb ssd

#

Whatever the cheapest is between mp33, sn550, and sn570 pretty much

broken lake
#

Is having my cpu just exposed to air a bad thing?

frank stirrup
broken lake
#

Waiting for a part for my aio to come in and in the mean time it’s just there

#

Is that an issue?

frank stirrup
#

nah

potent portal
#

No? The clamshell case they come in isn't even airtight.

frank stirrup
#

just dont switch it on

#

its only a problem if you use your computer like that

broken lake
#

Ok just making sure

#

My computer isn’t together at all right now so there is no chance of me turning it on

#

Because with how my case is my aio has to be installed first

potent portal
#

Air isn't an issue for CPUs, the IHS is nickel plated so it doesn't rust or corrode

broken lake
#

Deepcool castle I wanna say

#

Now I have a cooler master master liquid

#

And this is coming at some point in the next 21 hours

unique haven
#

kachow

formal plover
rich void
twin sedge
fossil cedar
twin sedge
#

Wdym by better psu, its A tier

fossil cedar
twin sedge
#

Can you give me a better one?

fossil cedar
#

Also consider the phanteks g360a

#

Yeah 1 sec

twin sedge
#

Whats the diff between the g360a and 4000d?

#

Bc the 360a is more expensive

fossil cedar
#

And you can also top mount 360mm radiators

twin sedge
#

What abt this memory instead its $113

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
twin sedge
#

Looks good

#

Thx

fossil cedar
#

Np

twin sedge
#

Im thinking of getting like a foot long led strip and attaching it to the bottom of my case to give it a nice under glow effect

#

Do you think i could just attach it via usb to the mobo?

jagged ember
#

yeah probably could

#

the logistics of how to do that though I can't think of

twin sedge
#

I mean you just stick it to the bottom and have the wire run up the back to one of the mobo usb ports

fossil cedar
#

Assuming it's a usb led strip sure

twin sedge
#

The mobo has just enough usb ports for everything

#

Perfect

fossil cedar
#

If you need more io

twin sedge
#

@fossil cedar what abt this case

fossil cedar
broken lake
#

Ok I got my bracket

#

We are trying this once again

earnest olive
#

not

#

buy

#

3600mt/s

#

ram

#

with

#

locked

#

12th

#

gen

earnest olive
fossil cedar
#

Oh yeah get the 3200c16 version of it for a few $ less

broken lake
#

Wonderful news

#

My case closes now

fossil cedar
#

Pog

stoic island
#

@earnest olive what's the problem w it on locked 12th gen?

#

I assumed smth like 3600c16 is fine although you might not be able to do 4000

earnest olive
#

the chance of running it in gear 1 is very low

stoic island
#

Really?

earnest olive
#

3200c22 will almost always outperform 3600c16

stoic island
#

I thought the imc was supposed to be good

earnest olive
#

in fact some samples cannot even do 3200g1

stoic island
#

What

#

How

earnest olive
#

but that's rare enough that we can still recommend 3200 over 3000

#

the IMC is good

#

the problem is that intel has artificially limited it this gen

stoic island
#

???

earnest olive
#

if you have non-k cpu your VCCSA is capped at less than 1 volt

#

even if you have z690

stoic island
#

What

#

Does it let you do 1v?

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

that works

stoic island
#

K sku should be fine

earnest olive
#

you cannot change it from auto at all

stoic island
#

Bruh

earnest olive
#

board will auto set 0.89-0.98

#

mine sets 0.946

fossil cedar
#

It's wack