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#building-and-recc-chat
unborn mesa
broken lake
lemme tell ya, having a pc in your room in the winter is the best thing ever
mossy venture
No monitor signal
unborn mesa
a poop
broken lake
uh oh
unborn mesa
lemme tell ya, having a pc in your room in the winter is the best thing ever
im excited to see how much this expensive space heater works
obsidian wigeon
lol
mossy venture
It says d4002
broken lake
my room is on a regular basis like 10 degrees hotter than the rest of my house
and I absolutely love it
unborn mesa
in the winter?
broken lake
just always
unborn mesa
oh same
broken lake
but it's the best in the winter
unborn mesa
winter its always colder like 10-15 degrees
mossy venture
Got it working
broken lake
nice
unborn mesa
dang i cut myself tryna use this balisong
boreal notch
I wasn't sure if it was my cable or motherboard's transfering speed
unborn mesa
Assuming drivers
update them
frigid night
depends.. my room gets heated up 10 degrees when I play games
boreal notch
But I am assuming it's the ram
mossy venture
Lol, gpu doesn't show up in task manager
broken lake
very large icons
unborn mesa
bro i cant have more than 3 icons on my desktop
obsidian wigeon
that's the no driver experience
mossy venture
update them
Would require me to ddu when I put my 3060 ti back in
unborn mesa
and theyre in the corners of my monitors
obsidian wigeon
800x600
mossy venture
Wait crap
unborn mesa
Would require me to ddu when I put my 3060 ti back in
put in both gpus
mossy venture
If I want to post it in hws I need a ss
obsidian wigeon
yep
mossy venture
Of the gpuz
broken lake
my desktop has a fair few icons on it
frigid night
bro i cant have more than 3 icons on my desktop
I have tons of icons and they are all organized in little groups all over my screen XD
unborn mesa
mossy venture
Oh pog
unborn mesa
3 icons i cant show my background here so little snip of it
broken lake
broken lake
LOL
mossy venture
Welp, time to unplug my 12 cables again
unborn mesa
might mount an aio with tape ngl
mossy venture
Also have to find that screw
unborn mesa
'
broken lake
this one has slightly fewer icons on it
mossy venture
BRUH
frigid night
its only 50c
only? at 8% usage?
unborn mesa
oh i was playing games a bit ago
i didnt close the game i just muted it
i closed it when i took the picture of the background
mossy venture
That screw is gone
unborn mesa
That screw is gone
rip
unborn mesa
bro....
mossy venture
It's gone
frigid night
well.. stop screwing around then
unborn mesa
why on a blanket
frigid night
xD
broken lake
I have literally only ever checked my temps once
frigid night
I have literally only ever checked my temps once
ooof. I monitor my temps 24/7
broken lake
48 degrees at a 3% load
broken lake
frigid night
wont let me see what ur replying too
gotta click the comma
right before the pic icon
unborn mesa
frigid night
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee whiiiiiiittteeee
unborn mesa
gotta click the comma
oh thx
broken lake
120mm aio don't go brrrrr
frigid night
broken lake
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee whiiiiiiittteeee
I open this app maybe once a month shut up
lol
unborn mesa
still
broken lake
too much effort to change it
frigid night
I don't think it's a waste
unborn mesa
i mean its only graphics updated so
broken lake
I already have it from when it first came out
unborn mesa
didnt it release today?
broken lake
not the remastered one I have the original one
idk anything about the remastered one
broken lake
wait if you have the original why would you buy the remastered
that is an awful use of $60
broken lake
thoughts on teardown?
the game?
unborn mesa
ngl might waste the 60 on remastered spiderman
@broken lake
obsidian wigeon
teardown is fuuuunnn
broken lake
fun for like an hour
obsidian wigeon
shame my laptop's cpu can't handle it
broken lake
then it gets boring
obsidian wigeon
i would say it's worth the price tag
mossy venture
So the vega 56 is only partially working
mossy venture
Do I make someone's day and sell for $50 or keep as backup
obsidian wigeon
it's kinda like minecraft
broken lake
for what I paid it was good
unborn mesa
Do I make someone's day and sell for $50 or keep as backup
sell to me
obsidian wigeon
something you play for a bit
unborn mesa
something you play for a bit
ive watched smii7y play it
unborn mesa
but thats mostly making content for money so not reliable for a recommondation of "its fun"
unborn mesa
and then I played it
is it coop or single
mossy venture
I think ima make someone's day
broken lake
single
unborn mesa
oh wack nvm then
broken lake
I think ima make someone's day
make my day and send me a 3090ti XD
unborn mesa
why does "Stray" have cyberpunk as a player tag
unborn mesa
make my day and send me a 3090ti XD
make sure its fe edition
mossy venture
Welp
unborn mesa
my c drive at 400gb used
broken lake
I am wiping my ssd tomorrow to build a new pc with it
unborn mesa
can someone recommend a game
unborn mesa
i think so
frigid night
can someone recommend a game
Final Fantasy 14
frigid night
If mmo isn't your thing.. FF7 remake intergrade
unborn mesa
raft kinda drew my attention
broken lake
raft is fun
unborn mesa
yea im guessing with friends tho
broken lake
I have enjoyed both
unborn mesa
i like to do those type of games with other people
frigid night
RuneScape 3
broken lake
if you have friends you can play with I would def recommend playing it with friends but it is enjoyable either way
frigid night
I has no friends 
unborn mesa
very
broken lake
I has no friends <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>
SAMEEEEEEEEE
unborn mesa
but the world file i been playing on is on my friends pc
unborn mesa
no.
unborn mesa
I'd like to think I am.. does that mean I am? Probs not.
ik im not i couldnt graduate so im down below that
leaden mauve
making a post to hws now
gl
leaden mauve
can i see it
mossy venture
posted it for $60 local, hoping to make someones day
unborn mesa
unborn mesa
posted it for $60 local, hoping to make someones day
how much to ship
mossy venture
if someone feels like they want it shipped, did $125
unborn mesa
if someone feels like they want it shipped, did $125
hmm
unborn mesa
lmk
mossy venture
which is why it's twice as expensive to ship it
stoic island
boutta drive my childhood drawings
Kinda sounds like beamng drive ripoff lol
hollow warren
just wondering if anyone can help me with this problem. Computer getting slow when opening premier pro or any other adobe aps. Wondering if it is the gpu or the cpu. Have a 3700x with a 5700xt Right now
broken lake
Ups finally stopped being annoying
My case got out of the severe weather and is coming Tuesday
broken lake
God damn it all my parts are at my house now but I have work for 6 more hours
jagged ember
patience
south cliff
I bought a steering wheel to play forza and some other games and I was wondering if it was any good for a starter got it for 80 it is a Ferrari t80 488 gtb
Brand new
lyric onyx
Hello I need help with a build and getting the same performance or better for cheaper :>
fossil cedar
Hello I need help with a build and getting the same performance or better for ch...
can you return the 11900k and z590?
lyric onyx
No
:(
I bought the 11900k which was dumb but it was on sale for around 270
@fossil cedar
I can't return the 11900k and z590
fossil cedar
shame 1 sec
fossil cedar
I bought the 11900k which was dumb but it was on sale for around 270
would do this, 6700 is only like 5% less gpu for 50$ less https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8T9rpH
lyric onyx
I was always gonna get the gpu 😅 not atm tho rn im using a zotac GeForce 1060 6gb mini
mossy venture
would do this, 6700 is only like 5% less gpu for 50$ less https://pcpartpicker.c...
Thought it was like 11% worse
fossil cedar
1 sec
lyric onyx
Wait tho
mossy venture
Mm?
lyric onyx
Will you be able to do it off a 1060
mossy venture
Nothing would change, just carry over the 1060 till you can buy a new gpu
lyric onyx
Yeah that was the plan
mossy venture
Then legit only difference is 1060 instead of 6700
lyric onyx
So I can use those same part just with the 1060 ?
mossy venture
Also an argument could be made to get the p6 850, if you want to go for a 4070 or similar
Though it'd need an adapter
Wait pato
fossil cedar
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q8wcBj actually yeah id do this
lyric onyx
Well I was planning on upgrading to a 6700xt or a 3080
mossy venture
I've seen a lot saying 40 series will be atx 3.0, but nothing about 7000 series
fossil cedar
Well I was planning on upgrading to a 6700xt or a 3080
just wait for next gen gpu
mossy venture
I've seen a lot saying 40 series will be atx 3.0, but nothing about 7000 series
Any input pato?
fossil cedar
id do this tghen https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bMd9nt
mossy venture
Also what's the price on the p6?
fossil cedar
I've seen a lot saying 40 series will be atx 3.0, but nothing about 7000 series
afaik it should be but will probably be shipped with adapters
mossy venture
Yeah probably
Another question that you probably won't know the answer to: will adapters be universal between psus?
fossil cedar
Also what's the price on the p6?
p6 850w?
mossy venture
Yeah
fossil cedar
12-
mossy venture
Another question that you probably won't know the answer to: will adapters be un...
I'd assume not because pinouts
Ah ok
fossil cedar
120
mossy venture
Was like 95 earlier
fossil cedar
Another question that you probably won't know the answer to: will adapters be un...
yes because theyll be like extensions
mossy venture
Oh cool
lyric onyx
id do this tghen https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bMd9nt
So should I just go for this build
mossy venture
So should I just go for this build
Yes
fossil cedar
So should I just go for this build
yeah i would then use 1060 til next gen gpus
lyric onyx
Alr fs
I'm trying to just be able to play most games with mid graphics and still run 60 fps
I was so restricted with my old build I could barely play minecraft since it was so old
fossil cedar
thats a nice build minecraft will do great on it even with a 1060
lyric onyx
You think I can run something like gta?
cyan ravine
P-perhaps 
lyric onyx
Alr
fiery sable
I got this in the mail today
broken lake
Is it possible to install windows without a flash drive or do I need one?
stoic island
Need either flash drive or cd disk + disk player
broken lake
Ok so I need to make a pit stop to Walmart on my way home
broken lake
Need either flash drive or cd disk + disk player
How big does the drive have to be?
stoic island
For the flash drive for installing windows, 8gb+ is enough
broken lake
Ok thanks
unborn mesa
Is just a Phillips head good for building a pc?
youll be fine with a phillips head
just make sure its not too fine of a tip
broken lake
Cool
weary galleon
Magnetic tip can be really nice
weary galleon
Is just a Phillips head good for building a pc?
Most stuff will be thumb screws or a normal sized Phillips head, nvme drives will need a smaller head
broken lake
Ok that’s good to know
unborn mesa
Most stuff will be thumb screws or a normal sized Phillips head, nvme drives wil...
a finer tip works too
desert gulch
a finer tip works too
TMI
unborn mesa
🤨
broken lake
what is the easiest way to wipe an ssd
obsidian wigeon
dban is a software to completely write a drive
it's pretty effective
but hammer is indeed easiest 
all you have to do is a couple whams
jagged ember
I never used it
obsidian wigeon
but
easiest is to just format it
no need for dban
dban is only for when you're selling the drive
it takes a long time too
analog pulsar
Questions with what I'm doing now and stuff is 4000 series really worth it for someone who can't even see past 60hz
Like they just add performance into new gpus but we just have 1440 screen isn't last gen okay too
Bc I was looking at either 6800xt/6900xt or 3080/3090 gpus
strong raft
Either get a 6900XT for $700ish or wait for 4070 or w/e is $600-700, but I don't see any point spending $700+ for anything currently out unless perhaps a 3090 on some weird sale.
analog pulsar
Okay I'm gunna be straight with you I wanted a gpu with an AIO with what I found online
6900xt is $999
6950xt is $1299
3090 is $1299
3090 Ti is $1500 ik evga has some sales but I missed out
boreal notch
I'm just gonna ask here so: I already have a guess but I want confirmation. I have upgraded my pc recently to a rx 6900 xt, i7 12700f, 32gb ram and I still lag while playing VR. my best guess is my cable or motherboard transfer speed is too slow. any ideas?
I use a quest 2 with the official link cable and my motherboard has 10gbs transfer speed
I know this might not be the best place to ask this kind of question but I have gotten good help for stuff like this in the past
broken lake
Ahhh my ram isnt going in and I don’t wanna force it
boreal notch
Ahhh my ram isnt going in and I don’t wanna force it
I had the same thing earlier today with my new ram and I shoved it in and hoped for the best
ended up fine
broken lake
That’s what I just did
Also probably a stupid question but I was told I could build my pc without a case and it would be better for testing and stuff but how would I turn it on?
obsidian wigeon
Short the power pins
If it doesn't have power button
The power pins of the mobo of course
Put like a spoon on them
Anything metallic
broken lake
Ok
boreal notch
I'm just using the panel from my old case
rich void
Ahhh my ram isnt going in and I don’t wanna force it
Are the locks open?
broken lake
Yea
rich void
You lined up the notch?
broken lake
How do I tell if I have LGA 1200 or LGA1700?
strong raft
How do I tell if I have LGA 1200 or LGA1700?
Not to say newegg is totally right always, but their listings sometimes say. (basically 600 series is lga1700, 500/400 is lga 1200, z690/b660/h670 vs z590/b560/h570 w/e)
broken lake
I am lost again
My aio instructions say to plug the aio into CPU_OPT but the plug doesn’t fit into that
earnest olive
3 pin plug can go on 4 pin header
broken lake
But it has something around it and it doesn’t fit into that
earnest olive
try the other 3 pins
broken lake
It tells me to plug this into this
Unless I’m just an idiot
Can someone help me figure this out
rich void
It tells me to plug this into this
I'm guessing you're trying to plug it in upside down if that helps
potent portal
That is a weird looking header but yeah you might have it backwards or on the wrong set of pins
broken lake
I just connected it to a splitter with my fans
potent portal
That works.
Is there maybe another cable or an adapter that came with the board that would fit that header?
broken lake
Don’t think so
earnest olive
those are some wack looking fan headers
potent portal
I like the idea behind that board, adding a daughterboard to compensate for ITX limits
broken lake
Is that the smaller board on top?
potent portal
Yeah
The one they call BTB
It's kinda genius using that to add headers and M.2 slots
broken lake
Is there something that would show me what I have to plug into my psu?
Not sure exactly what needs to be plugged in
solid dust
https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/M4dbyK I built this list for a friend, hes in NZ and has a budget of around 3000-4000. Lmk if you would make any changes
potent portal
The motherboard has the big 24 pin connector, the CPU has the 8 pins top left, and then the GPU. That's typically all you need for power, unless you have extras like SATA drives or a fan hub.
broken lake
Ok cool
potent portal
OH @broken lake top left by the CPU plug is the standard fan header
pale shore
https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/M4dbyK I built this list for a friend, hes in N...
if he has a budget of 4000 u can put a 4090 ti
broken lake
Yea I was using that for the fans on the aio so I put a splitter on it and I am now using it for both
broken lake
Ok
solid dust
if he has a budget of 4000 u can put a 4090 ti
Exlusively treaming SOT at 1440p might as well save some
4000 NZ, not usd too
pale shore
o
solid dust
Like 2500 usd
pale shore
alr
broken lake
Ok I think I’m ready to turn this thing on
But idk how to short out the power connector or whatever I was told to do
@potent portal do you know how to do that?
broken lake
Short the power pins
Where are the power pins?
potent portal
Where are the power pins?
They're on the f_panel, and usually it's printed on the board
broken lake
I found it
potent portal
best high end am4 boards?
What are you going to use it for? What's your budget? Will you be using multiple high end M.2 drives? How much overclocking will you be doing?
potent portal
Yeah they're dead quiet to me too, even at full speed
pale shore
What are you going to use it for? What's your budget? Will you be using multiple...
3.7k
im using a ryzen 9 5950x
for gaming and editing
and some school work
but i was just asking
i returned my intel chip
cyan ravine
Should still be fine on a b550, like aorus pro if you plan to oc
pale shore
and graphics card
broken lake
Does anyone know why I’m still getting Alienware stuff after I built my new pc?
Could that be built into the gpu?
Or would it more likely be the ssd
cyan ravine
Some things might trigger alienware to pop up if it's built-in
e.g the alienware monitor I used to have would auto install that alienfx display software every time it was plugged in, even if I didn't want it to
broken lake
Oh so it’s probably my monitor?
cyan ravine
Yeah if you've got one it would be that
broken lake
Ah
potent portal
for gaming and editing
One of these three would be great, pick your favorite. https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/BYBhP6,7HjNnQ,pnqBD3/
fossil cedar
This at 130 is also nice
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nHxbt6/gigabyte-x570-aorus-elite-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-aorus-elite
safe mason
what do you guys think of this? need some input. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tcT4Zw
mossy venture
what do you guys think of this? need some input. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t...
That most of it is a waste of money
safe mason
That most of it is a waste of money
oh rly? pls educate me. first time building a pc, so idk what it should be.
mossy venture
Ddr5 is a waste of money, that mobo is super overpriced, if you're not overclocking cpu no point to a k cpu or a z690, ssd is overpriced, aio is meh, liquid freezer ii 360 argb is cheaper and better, psu is super overpriced
cyan ravine
what do you guys think of this? need some input. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t...
This instead for nearly half
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qhh9nt
You're within 5% of the performance for nearly half the price
mossy venture
In most cases that'll even perform better, because the gpu is the 3080 12gb instead of 10gb
Gaming cases anyways, unless for whatever god forsaken reason you're playing at 1080p
cyan ravine
12900K and DDR5 is an immediate money sink, and Z690 strix isn't even on the map for most early adopters
O11 air mini is a better value spend, comes with fans, CLC 280 is also a perfect fit for it, Power supply is a better quality. P12's are also dead quiet and infinitely better than LL120's (They also have an rgb version)
980 pro is buying into marketing, good drive yes but unless you're doing like 4k video scrubbing or large data management daily you will barely notice any difference over an MP33
P41 also beats it
cyan ravine
Yup, those are more effective choices over a 980
Wait I put p12's not P14's oops
Kek
safe mason
thank you friends @cyan ravine and @mossy venture
cyan ravine
Np 
fossil cedar
what do you guys think of this? need some input. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t...
Assuming you really want o11 (if not swap for p500a or 5000d airflow) and really want top of the line (and a lot of rgb)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D8ph2m
But otherwise I'd just do this, like 5% worse for hundreds less
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HFR4PX
valid ginkgo
I have an external device with both USB A and a USB C port, the USB C was sheared of the mother board, can I still charge the device with a double male USB A cable or is it trash?
potent portal
That depends on the device in question, some will be wired to only charge from a specific port.
valid ginkgo
Is there a way I can look that up or trace the circuit board?
potent portal
What's the model number? It'll often say in the manual
valid ginkgo
It’s a JYX-66BT external speaker
It looks like the USB A port is only for connecting to externals and not for charging unfortunately
potent portal
Yep it's labeled as 5V input in the manual, separate from the USB. Bad luck, sorry.
valid ginkgo
Yah, thanks for the info though, much appreciated!
broken lake
@fossil cedar appreciate all the help with parts and everything
It works great
Case is coming in tomorrow
fossil cedar
<@191276897227898880> appreciate all the help with parts and everything
No glad to help
broken lake
Yep
jagged ember
nice
broken lake
Ok I might be stupid but why is my computer not letting me connect to wifi?
No
Does it come with antennas?
This thing?
Yep this is the antenna
Next thing on my list is probably new antennas because this is obnoxious
Does it matter which connector goes to each connection?
fossil cedar
Ok I might be stupid but why is my computer not letting me connect to wifi?
If windows didn't auto detect drivers you might need to download them on a different pc then put them on a usb or something
Antennas just improve signal, should work weaker without
broken lake
Ok well the antenna is connected so we about to find out
Also what is this?
Ok so how do I do the drivers thing?
frank stirrup
This thing?
Asus board momen?
fossil cedar
Gigabyte board has app center too
broken lake
Aorus board
fossil cedar
Ok so how do I do the drivers thing?
Go to a different pc, google your board by name, go to the site, then support then choose OS then download driver
Then put on usb stick into new pc
south snow
Hey can someone help me out? The CPU light on my mobo is red but my pc is running at good temp and everything seems fine?
broken lake
Is a 16 gb usb big enough for that?
fossil cedar
Hey can someone help me out? The CPU light on my mobo is red but my pc is runnin...
If everything is working fine prolly just a false positive
south snow
If everything is working fine prolly just a false positive
Is there a way to reset the light or smth like a check engine light?
broken lake
Which one do I do?
fossil cedar
Is there a way to reset the light or smth like a check engine light?
I don't think so
fossil cedar
Which one do I do?
Scroll down
south snow
ok ty
fossil cedar
Which one do I do?
Also change to windows 11, i assume you're going windows 11, what cpu did you get again 12600k?
Should be called like wifi or something along those lines
broken lake
12600k
fossil cedar
If you're going 12600k or up you wanna use windows 11 to take proper use of the e cores
Windows 10 doesn't have the scheduler yet :/
broken lake
I’ve had issues in the past not being able to play some games on windows 11
Also many options here
fossil cedar
Probably want top and bottom
broken lake
So I just plug the usb in and it works or do I have to do something else?
fossil cedar
So I just plug the usb in and it works or do I have to do something else?
You have to run the drivers install
jagged ember
good
river seal
Hey, i have a short question and i am not the pc specialist:
https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3060-rog-strix-rtx3060-o12g-v2-gaming/p/N82E16814126522?Description=3060&cm_re=3060-_-14-126-522-_-Product
i like to buy this card and like to know if this one fit into my PC:
HP Z240 Tower Workstation
at the moment i have the nvidia K620in> Thank you for your help
weary galleon
weary galleon
Hey, i have a short question and i am not the pc specialist:
https://www.newegg...
cant say for sure if it will fit in the workstation but if you opened the side panel and took a pic I could get a better guess
3 fan probably won't, 2 fan might
river seal
I would get this instead https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-gv-...
is the same or better ? and thanks for the recomidation
weary galleon
3060ti is around 20-25% better than 3060
river seal
3 fan probably won't, 2 fan might
i will make the picture tomorrow and get back to you
weary galleon
is yours the larger of the two cases
river seal
3060ti is around 20-25% better than 3060
great than i switch over to the 3060i
weary galleon
river seal
is yours the larger of the two cases
the right one the white one not the slim
river seal
yes this is my one
weary galleon
yeah you should probably be able to fit a gpu in there
airflow won't be good though
mossy venture
Psu likely is not enough
river seal
hm how i can fix the air problem ?
mossy venture
Would require a whole new case, which would likely require a new motherboard and power supply
But if you need a new power supply you'd need a new case anyways
river seal
ok than i have to switch over and ask what card fit in the pc that i have with the option to get 4 monitors on it
river seal
no
modern edge
What’s the best site to go to when trying to buy a pc??????
mossy venture
Then no reason to be looking at a 3060 ti
river seal
i make 70% office work
mossy venture
What’s the best site to go to when trying to buy a pc??????
Abs on newegg
river seal
and 30 is photoshop
mossy venture
Depends on your budget
river seal
Picture size and areas lighter maybe 4 layers. That’s it
mossy venture
I dont know much about photoshop, but it sounds like a 1650 would be enough
And would also be fine on that psu
mossy venture
Gtx 1650
river seal
I find it only with 3 monitors
mossy venture
Yeah, your best bet will be buying used
river seal
great. I will tomorrow to find it.
mossy venture
Most I'd pay for it is $150
river seal
Newegg have it for 319
mossy venture
Yeah... I'd suggest buying used
river seal
You know a good place to buy it ?
mossy venture
This also has 4 display outs https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wdvdnQ/xfx-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-speedster-swft-210-video-card-rx-66xl8lfdq
Ebay would be a decent place
river seal
Is 6 or 8ggb better
mossy venture
Vram doesn't really matter for your use case
river seal
Thank you for all your help
broken lake
Recommendations?
It was working fine
Then I went to install the Nvidia drivers and it restarted and now I’m getting this
broken lake
ok now it is working again but it is showing the complete wrong date and time
potent portal
ok now it is working again but it is showing the complete wrong date and time
Clear your CMOS and sync the time from inside Windows. If the time still resets itself after you leave it unplugged for a few minutes after that then you've either got a bad battery or a bad motherboard. Start with the battery in that case.
boreal notch
Should I be worried about my gpu sagging a little or is it fine?
desert gulch
Yeah, if you want, you can build a little sag bracket out of Legos or buy a sag bracket
Doesn't look too extreme altho it is a thick boi card
I wouldn't be too worried about it tho
broken lake
is 66 degrees normal for a gpu?
potent portal
100%
broken lake
cool
what is a good way to test a new computer?
like is there a common bench mark that people usually use?
obsidian wigeon
3dmark time spy
it's free on steam as demo version
you can skip the movie before the actual bench with alt+f4
potent portal
For testing a computer the demo is still good because it warms everything up first
obsidian wigeon
ye
analog pulsar
I like WD ssds
nice UI
why stuff have to be sold oput
whats diffrence from 4x4 and 3x4
I need ssd to download mu big games
desert gulch
4x4 is pcie gen 4
3x4 is pcie gen 3
The first number is the gen and the second one is the lanes
analog pulsar
so they both have same lanes
desert gulch
Yes but the perf between those two drives is quite big in some cases
potent portal
*rare cases
potent portal
Not much to a gamer
broken lake
Ok so I plugged in my old computer to see if it still works and whenever I turn it on it does this
Any ideas on why or how to stop it?
analog pulsar
desert gulch
It's not just a gen thing but also the drives are quite different
potent portal
Maybe a half second difference in load times
analog pulsar
The cs2130 and sn770/850
https://i.imgur.com/PmtvrZz.png well they have this
analog pulsar
I had this drive fore but 1TB i liked the UI for it
potent portal
Any ideas on why or how to stop it?
Uninstall all the Alienware bloat
broken lake
And after it finishes it says this
desert gulch
Like a mp33 pro or something (or upgrade to s70 [blade])
analog pulsar
You can get a good 2tb nvme for like $150
should i just get 2x2TB ssds and sell my 1TB
desert gulch
How much more space do you need
analog pulsar
i would like 4TB in my laptop
potent portal
And after it finishes it says this
Delete all the partitions and reinstall windows
broken lake
What does that mean?
analog pulsar
so either i can do 2x2TB ssds or buy 1x4TB ssd
desert gulch
What laptop is it?
potent portal
What does that mean?
It's saying it can't find the OS and it looks like a recovery image is loaded
desert gulch
Could be worth looking at a p31/p41 for 2tb of storage upgrade
Very efficient drives
analog pulsar
now do I go 3x4 or 4x4 would be nice to go 4x4 bc laptops supports the fast speeds windows go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr
desert gulch
Kinda depends what you plan to store on it and all that
analog pulsar
Kinda depends what you plan to store on it and all that
everything
desert gulch
Also not sure if the secondary slot supports gen 4
analog pulsar
brb
desert gulch
Falcie could probs help look around, I'm on mobile currently so can't really look around
broken lake
Whenever I turn this pc on it doesn’t even let me into bios
analog pulsar
nice but i didnt get speed info brb again
https://i.imgur.com/dOshOHo.png give me a moment this info doesnt look right
let me talk to legion peeps
https://i.imgur.com/Y0gocJY.png my gpu isnt listed HAAAAAAAAAAAAA
potent portal
Falcie could probs help look around, I'm on mobile currently so can't really loo...
I'm stuck on mobile too until my RMA is done on my motherboard. It's been 3 weeks...
analog pulsar
I'm stuck on mobile too until my RMA is done on my motherboard. It's been 3 week...
I can look around
desert gulch
Asus board?
broken lake
I'm stuck on mobile too until my RMA is done on my motherboard. It's been 3 week...
What’s rma
rich void
What’s rma
Returning a faulty part and having it replaced
rich void
All good
analog pulsar
https://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/Legion/Legion_5_Pro_16IAH7H?M=82RF006XUS @potent portal @desert gulch
found it
boreal notch
why wont my graphics card show up on my color changing software? I have a MSI Radeon RX 6900 xt gaming trio. I am trying to use AMD Radeon RX 6000 Series RGB LED software
obsidian wigeon
you probably need to use msi software
analog pulsar
https://i.imgur.com/97QZH6M.png i think this is ssd inside my pc
@obsidian wigeon do you think you could help me whats difference from WD 770 vs 850
obsidian wigeon
770 is lower end
analog pulsar
https://i.imgur.com/sVJxmYw.png would you save on the $30
analog pulsar
The s70 is better than the sn850
yea but its gen 3 im looking at gen 4
mossy venture
S70 is not gen 3
analog pulsar
well on best buy site
mossy venture
Why
analog pulsar
idk if i can shop other places
mossy venture
S70 is $240 on best buy
analog pulsar
https://i.imgur.com/GIPQtAM.png
https://i.imgur.com/y5dNWJq.png well we have these i looking at
mossy venture
Which is overpriced
analog pulsar
whats S70
mossy venture
An ssd?
analog pulsar
https://i.imgur.com/FBBOp2o.png oh this
mossy venture
Why are you limited to best buy?
Because https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qCqPxr/adata-xpg-gammix-s70-blade-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-agammixs70b-2t-cs
Or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yGTp99/sk-hynix-platinum-p41-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-shpp41-2000gm-2
analog pulsar
Because https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qCqPxr/adata-xpg-gammix-s70-blade-2-tb-...
the SK is $259
the XPG is $209
mossy venture
Yes, it's the best gen 4 drive
analog pulsar
SN850 is also good
analog pulsar
gets 7000MB/s just like the SK hynix
mossy venture
More to ssds than speeds
analog pulsar
with 176-Layer NAND Flash whats this
mossy venture
Can I ask why you're limited to bb?
analog pulsar
More to ssds than speeds
like what bc im sure SN850 is good all around i had 750 didnt fail on me once
mossy venture
I'm half sure I understand what you were trying to say
The sn850 is not a bad ssd by any measure
It's just overpriced
mossy venture
Mhm
analog pulsar
cause i say this i saw 2TB i think gen 3 ssds like $200
we have XPG 2TB at $209
SN850 at $239
SK hynix Platinum P41 at $259
mossy venture
2tb mp33 pro is $147
2tb p31, which in gaming loads is better than s70 and sn850, is $200
Making a generalization of gen 3 ssds as a whole isn't very fair, because there's ssds like p31 and then ssds like the p2
analog pulsar
I like WD UI tho for there ssds
analog pulsar
Making a generalization of gen 3 ssds as a whole isn't very fair, because there'...
i just meant the good ones
mossy venture
I like WD UI tho for there ssds
Sigh
analog pulsar
i got a list from luke once
analog pulsar
970 Evo plus is $190
I like Samsung UI too
analog pulsar
970 Evo plus is $190
gen 3
analog pulsar
i was talking about price
mossy venture
....and so was i?
mossy venture
P41 is the single best gen 4 drive
When considering spending $240 on an sn850, id just go for the p41 instead
Though if you're gaming and such you likely will not notice a difference between the p41 and mp33
analog pulsar
little expensive i wanted to get 2x2TB gen 4 ssds thats why i went after SN850 bc i could get 2 of them
mossy venture
Aside from install speeds and boot time
mossy venture
little expensive i wanted to get 2x2TB gen 4 ssds thats why i went after SN850 ...
2xs70
analog pulsar
is NAND flash good for anything
mossy venture
Not a clue
analog pulsar
@bitter mason didnt you have a SK hynix Platinum P41
i remeber seeeing pic
https://i.imgur.com/e4yI2iF.png @mossy venture BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
looks pretty
stoic island
little expensive i wanted to get 2x2TB gen 4 ssds thats why i went after SN850 ...
S70 blade
Nand flash is storage
176l micron nand tasty
analog pulsar
huh
i'll just get purple drive and fill it up or something if i need more space ill buy more later
okay its bought
analog pulsar
https://i.imgur.com/WuTTjyE.png sad not in stock 
ik you said this 2 days ago but we continue looking at ssds
analog pulsar
question
can 3.0 ssd run in 4.0 slot
does game storage neeed dram
@earnest olive i'll ping you bc i need answer before bed so i can send it
ugh its 1am i need sleep
earnest olive
3.0 ssd can run in 4.0 slot
analog pulsar
well are all SSDs backwards compatible
mossy venture
does game storage neeed dram
Dram affects sequential speeds mainly, which are near irrelevant for gaming
Which is why mp33 is a great choice for builds, dramless and cheap but still great for games
stoic island
Dram affects sequential speeds mainly, which are near irrelevant for gaming
Dram doesn't really affect seq speeds directly, dramless drives usually doing lower rated seq is mainly the controller's fault
fossil cedar
<@191276897227898880> do 1030s have 4 display outs?
Depends on the 1030
stoic island
Once again I want the 4 HDMI gt710 to come back lol
sudden orchid
s it convenient to have 2 512gb ssd or just one and another hdd but 5tb?
stoic island
I like 1tb SSD as boot drive and adding whatever more storage you need afterwards
A mp33 1tb is like 69$, it's really not that expensive
sudden orchid
Can you send the link where you saw the price?
frigid night
I like 1tb SSD as boot drive and adding whatever more storage you need afterward...
What else do you keep on the boot drive besides the OS?
fossil cedar
Iirc they're not in the us so prices will differ
stoic island
What else do you keep on the boot drive besides the OS?
Games
fossil cedar
But definitely only 1 1tb or 1 500gb ssd
stoic island
Can you send the link where you saw the price?
sudden orchid
ty bro
bitter mason
<@808772530017665024> didnt you have a SK hynix Platinum P41
I do but 12900k build is still a bit of a mess
south cliff
i got my steering wheel today and its not connecting
i have tried reinstalling drivers
potent portal
USB?
south cliff
ye
potent portal
Try other ports, preferably 2.0
south cliff
Try other ports, preferably 2.0
maybe the game isnt compatible?
i was playing forza 5
potent portal
Possibly, what input method is it using?
If you don't know what model so I can look it up
potent portal
This one?
Thrustmaster T80 Ferrari 488 GTB (PS5,PS4,PC) https://a.co/d/eBJ1RdI
south cliff
yup
potent portal
Seems like you're not the only one having issues with that wheel paired with that game
south cliff
am i doing something wrong
potent portal
Forza 4 works but 5 only half the functions work
south cliff
i downloaded dirt 5
potent portal
potent portal
4 seems to work ok
south cliff
ok im downloding it
potent portal
south cliff
alr thanks i thought it was broken
south cliff
Didnt work
Im gonna hopfully get a reply from the staff and see if thye can help me out
broken lake
@fossil cedar I have found the first issue
The aio is way too tall XD
Doesn’t quite fit
Is this any good?
Enermax Liqmax III 240 RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler - 240mm Radiator, 120mm RGB PWM Fan, for Intel/AMD, 5 Year Warranty (w/ LGA1700 Bracket) https://a.co/d/iQew0QI
cyan ravine
@broken lake which aio is that in the pic?
If that's the galahad I believe you can just take the top off
cyan ravine
Ah ok
broken lake
Can you guys help me find a good aio that fits in this pc that doesn’t cost a million dollars
potent portal
EVGA CLC
potent portal
Weird
rich void
Enermax Liqmax III 240 RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler - 240mm Radiator, 120mm RGB PWM...
Enermax has had some issues with AIOs failing in the recent past iirc.
I wouldn't trust them
potent portal
It wasn't an all caps message btw that's actually how the brand and model are capitalized
cyan ravine
Rare sight of an angry fal'cie demmit
rich void
It’s an sff pc
Still that AIO is tall because???
stoic island
It’s an sff pc
What case
broken lake
Lian li a4 h2o
cyan ravine
ML240L V2 would be cheap-ish
potent portal
Indeed. I have the V1 with the old fans that died, the V2 fixed that.
Should be like $75
cyan ravine
I still use a V2. On it's 3rd year no problems
It saturates a comfortable 202W on a 10th gen lol
potent portal
I originally got mine for a 2700 but it's fine for even my 5800X when gaming
cyan ravine
360 version?
potent portal
240
leaden mauve
are we talking about V1 and V2 xeons perhaps 🧐
potent portal
I did swap the fans for P12 ofc
cyan ravine
@broken lake CM ML240L V2 if you can find it
potent portal
Wegg usually has it cheap
Yep they got it for $75 on marketplace, called it
It's the 4 pin RGB model, not a-rgb
broken lake
This the right one?
mossy venture
Kinda mid for that price ngl
broken lake
Well it needs to fit in my case
cyan ravine
Yeah that's it, try the newegg link above
broken lake
It doesn’t fit
cyan ravine
He tried it, dun fit
broken lake
mossy venture
Ah
broken lake
Too tall
cyan ravine
FYI
https://www.reddit.com/r/lianli/comments/sp1hr5/a4h2o_compatible_aio_list/
We're referring to this list
What cpu btw?
I can't remember
broken lake
I’m thinking I’ll probably order off of Amazon because 2 day shipping
Plus I can just use the refund for this one to get that one
broken lake
What cpu btw?
12600k
cyan ravine
Ah it'll be alright, you can manage maybe a mild OC with a 240
Better off undervolting it if you want any extra performance
potent portal
Yep that's how I've got my temps under control with it
broken lake
Ok I ordered the shorter one
I’m gonna put it together using this one for now
And just not put the side panel on
analog pulsar
I do but 12900k build is still a bit of a mess
Oh so you never tried the speeds
@potent portal question what difference from getting fast speed ssd or putting cache into ssd tomie put ram into cache and it made ssd go brrrrrrrrr
I'm ofc with my small 16GB ram I could only cache 4GB sadly but if I get 32GB I can use more ram 😛
stoic island
<@396513761550270464> question what difference from getting fast speed ssd or pu...
Ram is ram for a reason, it's not storage, once you turn off the PC, whatever was on the ram is going to be gone, writing onto the ram might be fast, but you still have to write it onto storage to store it, which goes at the speed of the drive
analog pulsar
Ram is ram for a reason, it's not storage, once you turn off the PC, whatever wa...
https://i.imgur.com/UnLPS3Z.png @stoic island this is what tomie downloaded
bitter mason
Oh so you never tried the speeds
not yet sorry lol
analog pulsar
not yet sorry lol
oh
stoic island
Ye I know what primocache is
potent portal
<@396513761550270464> question what difference from getting fast speed ssd or pu...
RAM cache can be fun to play with but it's risky to use since if you suddenly lose power or blue screen all that data is lost
analog pulsar
RAM cache can be fun to play with but it's risky to use since if you suddenly lo...
Yea they said power lose can be bad so getting UPS work ?
potent portal
That's better than not having one but still doesn't protect you from sudden shutdowns or blue screens
wintry lodge
Hi guys, I’m a rookie at pc builds and finally planning to get one after years of pushing to the side, can someone help me try to build one? All I know is I want a 3000 series gpu
potent portal
How soon are you looking to build? Next gen is due in 2 months or so
And what's your budget?
potent portal
That budget gets you a pretty high end build right now, probably a 12600k and 3080 12gb
wintry lodge
Unless someone here is selling a used pc that I can buy w the 3000 gpu
potent portal
No buying it selling in this discord, sorry
wintry lodge
no problem got it
potent portal
I'll put a list together though
wintry lodge
Thank you I also need help with finding a monitor that works well with it
potent portal
Colorful lights you can set the color, pattern, and brightness on
wintry lodge
thanks @potent portal for your help!
potent portal
Oh and this is USD right?
wintry lodge
yeah usd
potent portal
Cool, give me a couple minutes
wintry lodge
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tRxTFg
swoosh <:terish:674799624250458150>
Thank you, I’ll look into it!
cyan ravine
wait for Fal'cie tho, always good to cross-check in case someone else finds something better
wintry lodge
will do!
potent portal
You could always upgrade to the 12700f like Felix suggested but personally I don't think it's worth it
I'm glad we agree that's the best GPU option right now though
@wintry lodge Sales change frequently so I'd consider these lists good for the next week at most
cyan ravine
the swordfish 
wintry lodge
got it! Thanks guys!!!
potent portal
Yup, the one that's the same tier as mp33
potent portal
Exactly, it doesn't need the heatsink but it's better to have it and not need it, especially at that price
wintry lodge
So I should get the 12600k?
potent portal
Personally I would but you can go for the 12700f also if you want. It doesn't make more than a couple percent difference when gaming.
wintry lodge
will it make a difference if I pick the evga 280 cpu cooler than the arctic 360 cooler?
potent portal
The Arctic one is one of the top liquid coolers. The CLC isn't far behind, but it is louder.
wintry lodge
I’ll stick to the attic
Arctic
I’m trying to buy everything from Newegg so I’m looking up the specific parts, for the motherboard they have the MSI PRO Z690-A DDR5 LGA 1700 atx intel, what’s ur thoughts on that compared to the b660 ddr4
cyan ravine
if you're going 12600K the z board will give you the OC options to make it actually worth it
z690 in that case
wintry lodge
I’m goin with the 12600k so I should go for the z690?
cyan ravine
imo yes
cos you can OC the cpu that way
which is what you pay a bit for with the intel K chips
potent portal
Yeah it's nice to have the option to overclock later
But not the ddr5 version, make sure it's ddr4
cyan ravine
potent portal
Current DDR5 is barely equal to midrange DDR4 while being much more expensive
wintry lodge
I’m totally understanding everything 😂
cyan ravine
ddr4 = basically the same here but cheaper
potent portal
Higher number does not always equal better is the gist of it lol
wintry lodge
got it
cyan ravine
but you need a ddr4 board to work with ddr4 sticks
stoic island
slowly but surely we'll switch to ddr5, it just doesn't make sense for most people price wise atm
potent portal
Yeah next next gen will see better ddr5 options I think
wintry lodge
the gpu it’s 3080 12 gb but does it have to be specific brand?
cyan ravine
Z4 looking cope
cyan ravine
the gpu it’s 3080 12 gb but does it have to be specific brand?
specifically the one we picked
potent portal
the gpu it’s 3080 12 gb but does it have to be specific brand?
The one we recommended is one of the best models you can get
cyan ravine
they come with warranties
unless you have an astonishing record of clumsiness I wouldn't
wintry lodge
so I don’t need to add the protection plan that it’s asking when I add to the cart
cyan ravine
nah
wintry lodge
Nah imma take care of this bad boy
stoic island
do keep in mind 3080 12gb is different from 3080 10gb
but aib partner doesn't really matter, just try not to get ventus
wintry lodge
do keep in mind 3080 12gb is different from 3080 10gb
I figured it is so I just got the one they told me to get
cyan ravine
this one
model doesn't really matter no but performance can vary a little bit between each, this one is basically like the best price to performance model of the stack
stoic island
this for 770 after promo without mir is good too
~~https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-10g-p5-3897-kl/p/N82E16814487541~~
I don't like mir
cyan ravine
wintry lodge
I got the list
Corsair 4000d airflow case
Msi pro z690a ddr4 lga 1700 motherboard
MSI gaming GeForce rtx 3080 12gb gaming z trio
Phanteks amp 1000 w 80+ power supply
Intel i5-12600k
G skill 32gb ddr4 3600
Swordfish nvme pci 3.0 x4 ssd 2tb
Arctic liquid freezer 360 cpu cooler
Do the Newegg make it or send it by parts? Where I have to build it?
wintry lodge
So I have to get the parts through their pc builder instead of their regular website? In order for it to be built?
potent portal
Yes, if you want then to build it. That way they can finish it faster since all the parts are pretty much in the same place.
frigid night
I got the list
Corsair 4000d airflow case
Msi pro z690a ddr4 lga 1700 motherboar...
Gigabyte Aorus 3080 12gb is bae <3
I'm gonna shill it. Sorry not sorry lol
wintry lodge
Is there another alternative for the arctic liquid freezer cooler? That is not loud
Bc the pc builder doesn’t show it available
potent portal
Bc the pc builder doesn’t show it available
I looked into it and it looks like the build service was recently discontinued
wintry lodge
What so they can’t build it?
potent portal
Looks like it's discontinued as of June 30th
So yeah they won't be able to build it for you
potent portal
It's not hard to do yourself, just like a big Lego set
Any local shop should do it if you prefer that, call for quotes
wintry lodge
got it
frigid night
I’m just gonna have to find someone that can build somewhere in LA
With a couple youtube vids and the people in this discord.. we could get ya well on your way to building your own pc. It's quite fun and the feeling you get when you finish and press that power button and it boots up is amazing.
I get the same feeling every day when I press that button.
wintry lodge
Thanks for all the support guys!
fossil cedar
<@191276897227898880> I have found the first issue
Ahh crap sorry about that, looks like the others got you sorted with one that does
glacial basin
what is your budget and country
Under about 2-3k if possible then I can just upgrade parts over time etc. and UK
mossy venture
Under about 2-3k if possible then I can just upgrade parts over time etc. and UK
Are you going to use ethernet, or need wifi
glacial basin
Are you going to use ethernet, or need wifi
I think wifi because my wifi box is downstairs so Ethernet cable would have to go all the way up
mossy venture
I think wifi because my wifi box is downstairs so Ethernet cable would have to g...
If you dont plan to oc the cpu, here
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LjMy8r
glacial basin
Thanks for your help. I’m stuck between custom pc and mac studio because I don’t have a clue how to build etc
fossil cedar
I think wifi because my wifi box is downstairs so Ethernet cable would have to g...
I'd do this, 3080 12gb is like 5% better but it's not worth £150 more also psu is better and cheaper, ram is just same but chewper
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BDgCC6
Actually that Amazon seller looks sketch, only 1 rating
mossy venture
Ooh nice txm price
fossil cedar
Thanks for your help. I’m stuck between custom pc and mac studio because I don’t...
Would do this
Same thing, 3080 12gb is a bit better but not 100£ better
fossil cedar
Ooh nice txm price
Yeah txm is goated here
glacial basin
I'd do this, 3080 12gb is like 5% better but it's not worth £150 more also psu i...
Appreciate your help. Do@you prefer pc over mac
32GB RAM would be nice to have
fossil cedar
That 3080 is showing up as 900£ for me 1 sec
fossil cedar
Appreciate your help. Do@you prefer pc over mac
Pc , gaming sucks crap on mac
obsidian wigeon
pretty crap
fossil cedar
I also just prefer windows ui
Would probably go for this personally
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DWqwDq @glacial basin
frigid night
Pc , gaming sucks crap on mac
And what does sucking crap look like?
cyan ravine
- grabs vacuum *
fossil cedar
And what does sucking crap look like?
Trying to game on a mac
cyan ravine
- chucks gaming mac into the vacuum *
