#building-and-recc-chat

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broken lake
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yea that one

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lol

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is this the right one?

obsidian wigeon
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bad aio

broken lake
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Why

obsidian wigeon
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well it performs meh for the price

broken lake
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Yea but it fits in my case

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Can’t be too picky when I’m working with something this small

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how much did 3080s retail for?

empty pollen
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between 700-850 depending on the brand

broken lake
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so is buying one for $800 now unreasonable?

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or do you think it will go lower when 40 series releases

rich void
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Good chance 3080 prices drop further when 40 series comes out

broken lake
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is there a release date for that yet?

empty pollen
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no

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gpus are getting cheaper every week

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you can get a 3080 gaming z trio at 770 rn

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or you can wait for the prices to go even lower, but thats a guess

broken lake
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I wonder how much more a 4080 will be

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or if I would even be able to get one if I tried

empty pollen
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yeah ill be worried about the second

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according to the latest leaks 4070 will perform at the same level as the 3090ti... that will be the one for me

broken lake
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wow

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that's crazy

empty pollen
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but then again, those are just rumors

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we dont have any official statements about 40 series

frigid night
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Idk, if the price is to high on the 40 series, I don't think it'll be an issue with getting one, plus mining is really not that good atm so they aren't going to get bought up by big mining companies.

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And I don't think we have to worry about scalpers

empty pollen
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yeah, i mean, pricing is not the issue anymore... availability on the other hand....

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not about scalpers, but maybe artificial scarcity

frigid night
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I think availability will be just fine.

broken lake
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no matter what I buy it will be a massive upgrade whether I go with a 30 series or a 40 series

frigid night
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Maybe not right off the bat (first month or so) but I believe we'll see restocks often

empty pollen
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im running a 750ti, so... yeah

broken lake
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how much power do you guys think a 4080 or 4080ti would take?

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I am currently running 2 1080tis in sli

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which is dead

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but I will stop using one in the next week or two

empty pollen
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rumors point to anything between 400-450w

broken lake
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so an 850w psu will be fine?

empty pollen
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we dont know

mossy venture
empty pollen
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we dont know how the transients will be handled on the 40 series

mossy venture
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Maybe 12%

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Main diff will be cheaper

empty pollen
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hopefully

mossy venture
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Also lower wattage

empty pollen
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thats the main appeal to me

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lower wattage and possible transients

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300w, with transients on 450-500 is ok for me

potent portal
broken lake
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what is transients?

empty pollen
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power spikes in less than a millisecond

mossy venture
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Power spikes

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^

empty pollen
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powerful enough to shut down the pc

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if your psu cant handle

obsidian wigeon
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if psu isn't good enough

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ye

broken lake
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oh that's kinda spooky

obsidian wigeon
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or it pops like some crap psus

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possibly taking down other parts

potent portal
# broken lake what is transients?

You've got your average power draw, but the GPU can use a lot more than that for a short time. Long enough to drain the capacitors in the PSU and shut it down.

empty pollen
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3080+ like to trip those pretty often

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a 350w gpu that can easily go above 600w foir a millisecond

obsidian wigeon
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gigabyte p-gm likes to blow up after protection trips

broken lake
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right now my pc has a 1500w psu in it so I haven't dealt with that lol

obsidian wigeon
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like the protection worked fine

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but as soon as you turn it back on

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it just pops

potent portal
broken lake
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I am downgrading to an 850w as soon as all my parts show up to my house

empty pollen
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i have an 850w and im not risking a 4080 xD\

potent portal
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600W tdp, accounting for double spikes, 1200W of absolute terror

empty pollen
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but 1500 might handle a 4080 if the rumors are true

broken lake
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so you don't think an 850 will handle a 4080?

empty pollen
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if the 4080 is rumored to draw 450+... then no

potent portal
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The good news is ATX 3.0 should take care of the transient problem

empty pollen
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like 3x transients i read

broken lake
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what is atx 3.0?

empty pollen
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a new psu standard

potent portal
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The updated spec requires the PSU to handle triple spikes on the GPU and double from the rest of the system

empty pollen
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there is only one so far

obsidian wigeon
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all to make sure stability remains intact

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hey more will come before the gpus come out anyway

empty pollen
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true, true

obsidian wigeon
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delays go brr

potent portal
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AMD is still launching in October

obsidian wigeon
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30 series tanking in price

empty pollen
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the 7000 series?

obsidian wigeon
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spooky month, spooky launch

potent portal
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Nvidia is the only one delayed until they sell more of the overstock 30 cards

broken lake
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I think once the 40 series cards release I might just buy a 4080 and go from there lol

empty pollen
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good luck with that

obsidian wigeon
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7000 series makes me think of cpu and gpu from amd

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god

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imagine having matching cpu and gpu

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r5 7600+rx 7600

empty pollen
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those news about IF at 3000mhz are disturbing

potent portal
obsidian wigeon
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yes

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or if tr ever comes

empty pollen
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thinking about raptor lake ddr4 again

broken lake
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you guys are literally speaking a foreign language to me rn

obsidian wigeon
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7970WX and 7970XT (if it exists)

broken lake
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I have no idea what you guys are saying

potent portal
empty pollen
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youll get used to it with enough time

obsidian wigeon
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yeah

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5000 tr took a while

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a whole year after

empty pollen
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guys are talking about amd cpus

potent portal
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And Intel still has no answer to it so no pressure

obsidian wigeon
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well then

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imma guess 2025

slim thistle
obsidian wigeon
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kek

broken lake
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I think my cpu is intel

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I kinda just bought what I was recommended XD

obsidian wigeon
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very bad

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no wonder it's running so hot

empty pollen
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if the guys around here recommended you a system then its probably very good

potent portal
empty pollen
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best bang for your buck

broken lake
obsidian wigeon
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changing paste won't help

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only fix is to buy a better cooler

broken lake
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everything I bought was recommended by pato

empty pollen
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pato sensei is a master of the craft

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cant go wrong on that

obsidian wigeon
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se-214xt should do fine on the cheap for 9600kf

slim thistle
broken lake
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yes

obsidian wigeon
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you don't need an aio on 9600kf

slim thistle
empty pollen
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depends

slim thistle
empty pollen
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there are some very good air coolers and very bad aios

obsidian wigeon
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yes, but

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good aios costs quite a bit more than an air cooler

broken lake
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bruh I am watching someone build a custom water cooled loop in an itx case

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how do people manage this

obsidian wigeon
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that's why im saying to get air

potent portal
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Get at least 240mm if you insist on AIO, 120mm are literally worse than air coolers by a lot

slim thistle
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Ok ty

empty pollen
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ofc, just stating that you cant compare apples to apples on rad vs air coolers

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you know

broken lake
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my 7980xe is running off a 120 aio XD

empty pollen
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😛

obsidian wigeon
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i cringe at prebuilts with 120mm aio

empty pollen
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man

obsidian wigeon
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loud and bad

broken lake
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I HAVE THAT

empty pollen
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yeah those are cringe

slim thistle
potent portal
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🔥

obsidian wigeon
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i see it so often here

empty pollen
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behold

obsidian wigeon
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oof

empty pollen
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i was... omg

obsidian wigeon
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well

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it's itx

potent portal
obsidian wigeon
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understandable

empty pollen
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yeah some guy on other discord was very proud of that... i was just... ok

obsidian wigeon
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also evga clc is good

empty pollen
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if it works, it works

obsidian wigeon
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but please set fan curve to max out at 80%

broken lake
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I be running an alienware pre built with 2 1080tis and a 7980xe using 1 120 aio and 2 fans

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it be hot

slim thistle
obsidian wigeon
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the clc's stock fans will scream

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
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if you max em out

broken lake
potent portal
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9600k will never get hot enough for fan curve to matter

slim thistle
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I just leave mine at stock anyway

fossil cedar
# obsidian wigeon bad aio

Not bad just not the best it's fine non asetek and doesn't have tubes coming straight out of pump which is important for itx

vague oracle
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…I don’t think I ever touched my 5900x’s fan curve

potent portal
obsidian wigeon
obsidian wigeon
vague oracle
broken lake
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oh no

slim thistle
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Well k then just gonna do air thank you everyone that helped

obsidian wigeon
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evga clc can be very cheap at evga

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on b stock

empty pollen
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im in love with my ak620

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dont need an aio 😛

obsidian wigeon
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ak620 chonky

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but good

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that's the only downside of air tbh

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needs huge heatsinks

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so you better have a case that fits it

vague oracle
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You ever put a Peerless assassin 2 on an 11400f kekw

empty pollen
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but they are extremely reliable and a long life 😛

obsidian wigeon
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pure hunk of copper and fans

slim thistle
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Ty

empty pollen
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10+ years until the fan dies

obsidian wigeon
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yeah

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or if the fan dies you can always cheaply add fans later lol

empty pollen
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if they die ofc

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yeah

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like a pair of p12 strapped with zip ties

obsidian wigeon
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by the time they die is probably when they become hella outdated

broken lake
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I ordered p12s to go with my new pc

obsidian wigeon
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like the hyper 212

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that thing is still being sold

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and bought by so many people

empty pollen
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me 2 😄

broken lake
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idk what that is but it sounds cool

empty pollen
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its a big big boi

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a tr4 cooler

broken lake
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oh wow

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it is chunky

obsidian wigeon
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sounds like bad news

empty pollen
obsidian wigeon
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only being able to run 6000

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at max

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without losing perf

empty pollen
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and "sweet spot" is a lie anyway

obsidian wigeon
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sounds pretty bad for ddr5

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where we can see 7000+ MT/s

empty pollen
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like zen 3 sweet spot was 4000

broken lake
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ok you guys lost me again XD

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I should really learn more about pcs

empty pollen
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memory speed where the system is stable

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6000 is way too low

obsidian wigeon
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yeah

broken lake
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ah

obsidian wigeon
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if it's true then i'll be disappointed

empty pollen
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and that "sweet spot" is the marketing spot

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real spot should be around 5600

obsidian wigeon
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which is

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like almost slowest

empty pollen
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yup

obsidian wigeon
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slowest ddr5 can go is 4800

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afaik

empty pollen
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when i read those news i thought "back to ddr4 rpl"

obsidian wigeon
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ddr5 still has some plus

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which i hope ryzen 7000 utilizes

broken lake
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how much better is ddr5 than ddr4

obsidian wigeon
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right now, nah

empty pollen
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depends on the workload

fossil cedar
potent portal
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4400 exists

obsidian wigeon
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4400

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ooof

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hella low lol

potent portal
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Yep lmao

empty pollen
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they need to go up to 7000 to be competitive

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6000 hell naw

potent portal
obsidian wigeon
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ouch

empty pollen
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🤢

obsidian wigeon
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of course it's c*rsair

fossil cedar
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Corsair seems to make some actually good d5 kits tbh

obsidian wigeon
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just some

empty pollen
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but not that one

obsidian wigeon
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anything else is just crap

fossil cedar
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Idk how the pcbs are but they have a 6200 kit iirc

obsidian wigeon
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yes

earnest olive
desert gulch
potent portal
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You could get most Zen 3 chips to 1900 or so with some tweaking and an updated agesa

desert gulch
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Oh yeah ofc just amd wouldnt guarantee it

potent portal
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3600 is just the easiest for normies while still good

desert gulch
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Which is funny

empty pollen
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yeah those "sweet spots" are more like "marketing spots"

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that 6000 sweet spot is more like 5200 real spot xD

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and 6000 the very lucky bins

frigid night
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@haughty void What is that on the gpu that is telling you the power draw?

broken lake
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Is this ram good?

IMG_4649.jpg IMG_4650.jpg
haughty void
frigid night
mossy venture
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You'd probably want 32gb 3200c16, 3600c18, or 3600c16

broken lake
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I have 4 of these

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But I’ll definitely look into that

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Thanks

mossy venture
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Might be worth keeping then

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Depends on the timings imo

broken lake
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Wdym by the timings?

mossy venture
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The cl

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2933c16 would be fine, but if it's a jedec 2933c19 kit it's pretty bad

broken lake
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Idk what any of that means XD

empty pollen
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thats the model

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cant see it very well to look for the specs

fossil cedar
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Mainly depends on what timings it's using

fossil cedar
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Woops wrong ping

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@broken lake ^

empty pollen
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there is almost no documentation about that memory 😛

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an oem memory module for an aurora r7

fossil cedar
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Most likely jedec

muted carbon
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  • Your budget/location/time of purchase? 14 thosand reais and brasil
  • Which local retailers are available? pichau terabyte shop
  • What is the PC for? 1080p 144FPS shooters, streaming, vidio edit
  • Any aesthetic preferences? white and black
  • Interest in overclocking? CPU/GPU/RAM yes for good fps
  • Extras/peripherals required? no
    -Existing parts to reuse? mouse keyboard headset
frozen axle
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Hey quick question anyone know the right amount of thermal paste cant really visualize pea size or rice grain

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its a 5800x

stoic island
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simple, effective

frozen axle
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alright

frozen axle
stoic island
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eh, good enough

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would've preferred more but you can apply the cooler and see how it spreads

rich void
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Yeah, personally I use the spread method but that should do

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Yeah can add more too

frozen axle
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oh i thought it was bad to like take it off and see cause of air bubbles or soemthing

stoic island
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with adequate mounting pressure there should be no air bubbles at all

frozen axle
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alright

drowsy zodiac
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boys my cpu cooler came without the lga1700 mounting bracket lol i told you i had bad luck

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i emailed the company though going to wait for a response

jagged ember
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they'll send you one

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dw

broken lake
drowsy zodiac
broken lake
empty pollen
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2900c19 :S

broken lake
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Is that good?

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Also fans came in

IMG_4652.jpg
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W

empty pollen
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they are pretty good

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p12 are awesome

runic spruce
cyan ravine
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Best fan global elite top 0.1%

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P12's for life I'm a massive simp rn

jagged ember
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p12s for life baby

broken lake
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I have never bought fans before but I trust you guys

jagged ember
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10 year warranty

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so

final widget
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what monitor should i get to pair with a 3070?

empty pollen
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1440p and above

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144hz at least

pale shore
obsidian wigeon
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no

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They're terrible for the price tag

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All looks, no go

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it's in avoid list

cyan ravine
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If you must have unifans, AL120's. But those are also kinda meh for the price, T30's are better or ST120's. Sickleflows are also nice

drowsy zodiac
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are my fans good they came with the bitfenix case

cyan ravine
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Considering they came with the case it's fine

drowsy zodiac
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okok

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yo felix my cpu cooler came in

cyan ravine
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These fan lists are for people who need more

drowsy zodiac
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you wouldn’t believe what happen lol

obsidian wigeon
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any unifans sucks for their very high price tag

cyan ravine
still roostBOT
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FlexibleFelix#0713 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cyan ravine
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EHH

drowsy zodiac
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wanna know what happen lol

cyan ravine
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Ye

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I forgot that emoji has a cuss in it

drowsy zodiac
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they didn’t send the lga1700 bracket

cyan ravine
drowsy zodiac
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i told you my luck was bad

cyan ravine
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Oh no

obsidian wigeon
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people just buys the unifans for looks

drowsy zodiac
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i emailed them and everything

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it’s all good

cyan ravine
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Oh ok awesome

obsidian wigeon
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it feels like a scam to get 92mm of fan in the size of 120

cyan ravine
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People who buy unifans or LL120's don't know good airflow

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And I say that as someone who's got both so I definitely learned my lesson

obsidian wigeon
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they just go "but it works"

cyan ravine
obsidian wigeon
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kek

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works sure, but your fans are basically 90mm

cyan ravine
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Ye

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They have to work hard to try match a 120

obsidian wigeon
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so many people are like this with tech

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especially with cpu coolers

cyan ravine
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If you get those fans cheap tho it's fine

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Lemme just footnote that

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But still, p12's

obsidian wigeon
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"but my cpu isn't running hot, why would i take your advice"

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which is good for them to have wasted their money on something

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i guess

drowsy zodiac
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gigabyte b660m aorus pro ax VS msi pro b660m-a

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what’s better

cyan ravine
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Msi

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If same price, aorus

obsidian wigeon
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^

drowsy zodiac
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yes same price

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ok msi vs asus

obsidian wigeon
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which asus

drowsy zodiac
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uh hold on

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asus prime b660ma

cyan ravine
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Aorus>msi>asus

obsidian wigeon
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then i would do msi

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the prime-a kinda sucks

frigid night
obsidian wigeon
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for asus

drowsy zodiac
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so msi over all

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lol

cyan ravine
frigid night
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😄

cyan ravine
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zurastandby <<< This but another spelling

drowsy zodiac
pale shore
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Are cooler master sf120 good

obsidian wigeon
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nah

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wait

cyan ravine
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Yes

obsidian wigeon
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did you mean sickleflow?

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yep

cyan ravine
obsidian wigeon
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since it's same price

drowsy zodiac
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okok fs

obsidian wigeon
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just go aorus

cyan ravine
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So aorus

drowsy zodiac
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yes yes

cyan ravine
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Lol

drowsy zodiac
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it’s actually 1 whole dollar cheaper

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lollll

cyan ravine
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Lolol

frigid night
drowsy zodiac
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crazy deal right tell me about it

obsidian wigeon
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a whopping dollar lower

drowsy zodiac
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tell me about it

obsidian wigeon
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come and get it before it runs out

drowsy zodiac
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unbelievable

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but real talk it’s 198$

obsidian wigeon
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out of those, yep

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aorus

cyan ravine
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Not too bad

obsidian wigeon
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still gigabyte route kek

drowsy zodiac
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okay for sure

cyan ravine
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How much is asus?

drowsy zodiac
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i’m going to get that next since i’m legit broke lol and i’m getting a new job

drowsy zodiac
cyan ravine
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Nah

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Aorus lol

drowsy zodiac
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alright bet

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actually no the msi is 199 lemme find the asus rq

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it’s 195$

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the asus

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msi 199

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Aorus is 198

cyan ravine
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Aorus

drowsy zodiac
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that’s what i was thinking

cyan ravine
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Just had to check, it's worth the $3 for better vrm

drowsy zodiac
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i like the way it looks even though i probably won’t see it to much

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so ima order the board next

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cuz that’s what i have money for atm

frigid night
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I like MSI

pale shore
frigid night
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I will be getting ROG soon though

obsidian wigeon
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aorus better :v

frigid night
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white ROG z690 is chefkiss

little osprey
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Heyo

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i have 300$ CAD to mess around with anything i should get for my setup?

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this is my current build

frigid night
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and ditch the ram you have

little osprey
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any specific reason?

frigid night
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  1. it's 32gb 4 sticks.
  2. it's mismatched
little osprey
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hm

frigid night
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like severely mismatched

little osprey
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ok

frigid night
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you are hurting your performance.

little osprey
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i'll probably have like

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80$ left

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what then

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dual channel too right?

frigid night
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I'd get like..
THIS
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/kXbkcf/gskill-memory-f43200c16d32gvk

OR THIS

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (F4-3200C...

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (F4-3200C16D-32GVK)

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (F4-3600C...

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (F4-3600C16D-32GVKC)

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someone may have better recommendations

little osprey
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i do kind of like the viper ram?

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is there something bad about it?

jolly jungle
pale shore
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Can u put separate rgb fans on this

image.png
potent portal
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I bet you can't even turn on xmp

little osprey
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anything wrong with this?

frigid night
little osprey
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ok

frigid night
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the one you linked is 3600c18, the one I linked is 3600c16

little osprey
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i'll look into gskill

frigid night
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this one is 3200c16 like the other gskill I linked.

little osprey
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anything wrong with this?

pale shore
potent portal
obsidian wigeon
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but tbh the kraken sucks for value

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can get cheaper aio and slap rgb fans on

potent portal
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Yeah if you were going the fan change route get CLC

frigid night
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actually the trident might be pretty alright

pale shore
little osprey
pale shore
little osprey
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i'm getting that then

frigid night
little osprey
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anything else i should get

obsidian wigeon
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you can just

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swap fans on an evga clc

pale shore
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Do I worry about these

image.png
obsidian wigeon
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mobo warning is a false positive

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and same for psu

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it's just making sure you don't make any mistakes with psu

potent portal
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The only GPU that should be using the 16 pin connector is the 3090 ti and no one should be buying that right now

obsidian wigeon
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^

pale shore
frigid night
potent portal
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Yes the 4080 or 7800 XT will easily beat the 3090 ti

frigid night
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you're mobo supports nvme, but you only have sata ssd and hdd

potent portal
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At a cheaper price

frigid night
#

unless you have your OS on one of the hard drives, but I don't see why you would do that.

pale shore
#

I bought a 3080 but returned it last month

potent portal
#

AMD is launching in October for sure, you won't have to wait long

frigid night
pale shore
obsidian wigeon
#

nvidia will launch later than that

little osprey
#

MOBO doesn't support it

obsidian wigeon
#

so amd will have a headstart

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um your mobo has m.2 slot

frigid night
little osprey
#

my mobo says otherwise

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i got the 1 not the two

obsidian wigeon
#

well then it still has one slot

little osprey
#

i checked

obsidian wigeon
#

that mobo actually has two m.2 slots

little osprey
#

it dont'

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i swear to god

frigid night
#

bro

obsidian wigeon
#

i can literally see the spots for screws

little osprey
frigid night
#

you can even see the NVME slot on your mobo

obsidian wigeon
#

i won't believe it until you actually take pics of your mobo

little osprey
frigid night
#

unless you've linked the wrong mobo in pcpp that mobo def does support nvme

frigid night
obsidian wigeon
#

two infact

little osprey
#

what

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i've been lied too

frigid night
#

Who told you otherwise?

little osprey
#

the guy who sold me the thing

frigid night
#

then he didn't know what he was talking about

obsidian wigeon
#

^

broken lake
#

is the 980 pro worth buying?

obsidian wigeon
#

nah

#

overkill for 99% of use cases

#

and it's very expensive too

broken lake
#

but it makes ark load faster lol

obsidian wigeon
#

only by a second or two

#

over a slower but still good ssd

broken lake
#

no it makes ark load faster by like 2 minutes when loading 30 mods everytime I join lol

obsidian wigeon
#

huh

little osprey
#

ok something else

obsidian wigeon
#

if you really insist

little osprey
#

i'll get M.2 later

obsidian wigeon
#

s70 blade is faster

broken lake
#

modded ark servers are stupid lol

frigid night
frigid night
#

otherwise everything else looks pretty solid.

#

since you got the $ now. That is what I would do. Seems the most logical to me.

empty pollen
little osprey
#

peripherals

frigid night
#

what good are your peripherals if you can't enjoy them to the fullest because your performance is hurting?

obsidian wigeon
#

^

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tho i would say mech keeb is something worth investing into

#

the upgrade is so substantial

empty pollen
#

differences between gen3 and gen4 drives are remotely noticeable on loading times, like 1 or even half a second difference.... only scenario where it matters is where you move lots of data like in video editing, and i mean LOTS of data constantly

obsidian wigeon
#

compared to rubber dome membrane

#

those really suck

potent portal
#

Membrane4lyfe

obsidian wigeon
#

i can't go back to membrane anymore

frigid night
#

aye, a mech is amazing, but I'd rather get my performance boosted before a keeb

potent portal
#

I can't be bugging the rest of the people in the house with clickies

obsidian wigeon
#

keeb can be pretty cheap at the starters

frigid night
little osprey
empty pollen
#

i love to annoy my family with my clicky huntsman 😄

obsidian wigeon
#

i like tactile switches, but not clicky ones tho

frigid night
obsidian wigeon
#

too much force for me to push down

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and too much noise

frigid night
#

that's a lot of $ to just let there be poor performance.

#

may as well have just bought a cheaper pc.

little osprey
#

guess i'll get good stuff then

empty pollen
#

well, thats the point of earning money.... to spend on valuable things

#

not cheap ones

little osprey
#

won it on a scratch ticket

#

hence why i'm throwing it away

potent portal
#

Better memory alone will help with any stuttering and frame rate drops you might have, way smoother when playing

frigid night
little osprey
#

uhm,

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yeah i'm screwing with you

frigid night
#

I've given my advice. I don't think there is anything else to be said. Good luck with whatever choice you make 🙂

little osprey
#

ima get m.2 and ram

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because i think it looks good

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and i think it fits in my budget

#

does m.2 help with performance

frigid night
little osprey
#

in what

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way

frigid night
#

in every way

#

your pc will load/run things faster. It has faster read/write speeds than sata

little osprey
#

hm

#

ok

#

well anything you'd recommend?

frigid night
#

that MP33

frigid night
little osprey
#

any way to make it look better or no?

frigid night
#

Use Macrium Reflect to clone whatever drive you have your OS on to that NVME

little osprey
#

ok

frigid night
stoic island
#

wdym make it look better

little osprey
stoic island
#

most of the time the first m.2 slot is under the GPU anyways

#

you want to make the gpu look better?

frigid night
#

I don't think his GPU will cover it to much

stoic island
#

meh, GPU is probably going to overshadow it

little osprey
#

eh

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i guess

frigid night
stoic island
#

most air coolers would also cover much of it

#

m.2 drive is just too tiny to care about the appearance of imo, and just in the middle of everything and covered by things most of the time

obsidian wigeon
#

the second slot low down will leave the ssd on display

#

but yeah

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idc about ssd's looks myself

little osprey
#

this is a good ram set right?

#

before i buy it

obsidian wigeon
#

yep

little osprey
#

cool cool

#

guess im going to have to sell my current ram set

#

how should i sell them

#

as a 3 pair or separately

desert gulch
#

3 pair?

little osprey
#

yeah

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i'm weird and have 3x8gb sticks

#

for some reason that's not common

empty pollen
#

thats not a "pair"

little osprey
#

well

#

it is to me

empty pollen
#

damn bro, your math skills are mad

little osprey
#

ikr

empty pollen
#

thats a trio or a tri pack

little osprey
#

almost worth the degree

empty pollen
#

word

desert gulch
#

🥶🥶🥶🥶 bros running tri channel, throwback to x58 days

little osprey
#

could it be a old pin from my old cpu might be in there where I cant see it? cause I tried straightening the cpu with the latch method after getting straight enough when tried fixing

potent portal
#

Possibly, but you would be able to see it blocking the hole if you shine a light and look closely at the socket

little osprey
#

would it come out easy or no?

potent portal
#

That would also cause a pin on your new CPU to bend

#

If there's a pin stuck in there it should come right out if you flip the board upside down

little osprey
#

I'll give it a shot cause there is no other reason I can think of that I havent checked, its running same wattage as my other cpu did

little osprey
#

can someone send me proper thermal paste and thermal paste cleaning supplies? to easily remove thermal compounds, links to them I mean

#

also can too much thermal paste raise temps?

#

my average rn with a fun apps running is actually 20 degrees lower

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few*

#

I put alot less than I have been

potent portal
#

You can just use isopropyl alcohol off your local store shelf and a lint free cloth or shop towel

little osprey
#

I only remember the mx-4 recommendation for thermal paste

potent portal
hybrid briar
#

i drink that stuff

potent portal
#

Cheap and effective

little osprey
little osprey
potent portal
#

You can spread a thin layer, just enough to cover the CPU, using an old credit card or something

#

It doesn't take much, that 4g tube is probably enough for 6 applications

ornate monolith
#

On my smaller dies I just put a small pea sized dot in the middle and the tensioner does the rest

potent portal
#

Or do an X pattern

little osprey
potent portal
#

There could be physical damage, external or internal, to the memory traces

little osprey
#

says memory channel 2

potent portal
#

I don't think there's a single Ryzen CPU that's not at least dual channel

runic spruce
#

@grim wraith I’d move the gpu sag hook on the other side of the gpu, it’ll work better that way instead of that corner

little osprey
#

could it be a board problem?

runic spruce
#

Or maybe not use it if u don’t see any sag

potent portal
#

It's more likely a board problem over a CPU problem

little osprey
#

dunno why it would start after new cpu though

potent portal
#

Hmm the other channel was working before?

little osprey
#

my pc collected dust for like 3months though waiting for it

#

yes

runic spruce
potent portal
#

Then barring any damage that may have occurred it sounds like a rare case of a bad CPU

runic spruce
#

Kryonaut the same price rn as mx4

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Big L mx4

little osprey
#

kryonaut better?

runic spruce
#

By like a degree or two lol

little osprey
#

oh

runic spruce
#

Doesn’t really matter

#

and I heard the longevity on mx4 is better then kyronaut

cyan ravine
#

I am back

potent portal
runic spruce
#

Oh

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Well personally I would go with kryonaut then

cyan ravine
#

Or be a total chad and get alphacool subzero lol

runic spruce
#

And be a sigma and use thermal pads jk

potent portal
#

Get a roboclocker and daily LN2

cyan ravine
#

Carbonaut pads for maximum life lel

potent portal
#

I should get one for my xeon

little osprey
#

Is hydrogen peroxide and isopro the same thing or no?

cyan ravine
#

Pretty sure they aren't

little osprey
#

If not dont think I have any isopro at house

cyan ravine
#

Ones considered toxic one's a strong alcohol

little osprey
#

🤔

#

Arent they both toxic?

cyan ravine
#

Well, yes but a different kind

#

Peroxide is toxic by fumes iirc

little osprey
#

What else is isopro used for so might be able to find in house?

#

I live with family btw

#

lol

frigid night
potent portal
little osprey
#

So... medical?

potent portal
#

Cleans wounds and such yeah

cyan ravine
potent portal
#

For computers you'll want high % like 93+

cyan ravine
#

The point of it is it's fast evaporating because pure alcohol

little osprey
cyan ravine
#

And not really conductive iirc

#

Isopro won't make it much easier to get the stuff on the sides imo

little osprey
#

I already accidently got a tiny bit on a couple pins

#

Still work but ye

frigid night
cyan ravine
#

You can try using a needle to carefully get some of that off (power definitely off ofc and extremely careful) but if it still works then don't worry too much if it's still there and *working fine

potent portal
#

Yeah if you use lower % you'll want to wipe it after

cyan ravine
#

Ye I use microfiber

frigid night
cyan ravine
#

But like, even paper towels can be fine, isopropyl isn't totally necessary

potent portal
cyan ravine
potent portal
#

Water + computer = bad

cyan ravine
#

Yes, also not as great paste contact with water

#

If you can get away with it

frigid night
#

I mean, I wiped up the residue and streaking

#

But ill make sure in the future to remember to wipe it anyways

#

You're weird blobhuglove

#

Did you just really call me a hoe?

frank stirrup
frigid night
frank stirrup
#

Minecraft hoe

frigid night
#

Why would she call me a hoe?

#

There. That better?

fossil cedar
frigid night
fossil cedar
frigid night
fossil cedar
still roostBOT
#
Vanya#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

frigid night
#

Oh no way

#

Wasn't even a bad word

frigid night
fossil cedar
#

Mwhaha

fossil cedar
frigid night
#

Ohh

#

Rip

mossy venture
#

Just found a guy selling a 1060 build on marketplace

#

Says he's been running games at 4k

#

Priced at $2000

#

Checks out

flint sapphire
#

4k gaming squad WICKED

cyan ravine
#

4k 15fps hype LES GOOO

flint sapphire
frigid night
steady canyon
#

Hello fellow pc builders my question today is..... if i have a nvme ssd M.2 2280 1tb hard drive and i want to add another one thats 4 or 8 tb in the next slot should that one be the same exact brand or manufacturer or can i just throw any nvme in this?

fossil cedar
steady canyon
#

oh thnk u

fossil cedar
#

Hard drive and ssd are mutually exclusive

#

But you can mix n match brands as they are seperate

steady canyon
#

so is it sata drive, harddrive, ssd ?

#

these are the only types of drive?

fossil cedar
#

So sata and nvme are the protocols

#

3.5"/2.5" and m.2 are the form factors

#

Hard drive is the ones with the spinning disks

#

Ssds are just silicon nand and a controller

#

Ssds can be nvme m.2, sata m.2(although you wanna avoid them) and sata 2.5"

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Hard drives can be sata 3.5" and sometimes (usually laptop or external hdds) 2.5"

frigid night
#

Do they make above 2tb m.2 nvme ssd hdd ram vram chips?

#

Fr though do they make nvme ssd above 2tb?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
steady canyon
#

And anyone of these on this list would work when I installed it

#

The 4tb looks nice

#

Ok now I’m curious is there a 8tb m.2 nvme? And is there a top brand nvme? So I can have a best to worst comparison.

#

Oh I see the 8gb

fossil cedar
#

From that list for 8tb I'd go inland platinum

#

But 4tbs are way more versatile

grim wraith
#

Thing is actually extremely sturdy no sag at all

obsidian wigeon
#

sag doesn't exist on cases with good bracket mount

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
#

huh

#

in that pic there's none i can see

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
#

ah

dusky hearth
fossil cedar
#

Shun

dusky hearth
#

i've never met anyone that actually has a SSHD in their system

#

all i know is that they exist lmao

grim wraith
broken lake
fossil cedar
broken lake
#

Ok I’ll probably do that when I get a new card

#

Thank you

fossil cedar
#

No probs

boreal notch
#

Darn I really love the look of open air but I already have my case in transit

#

I wish there was a case that showed of the pc sideways

#

or I guess from the bottom

broken lake
#

Does anyone know why I’m getting an email from ups that my new egg package is shipping tomorrow when I didn’t order anything from newegg

fossil cedar
#

Probably a scam email?

broken lake
#

Oh I figured it out

#

I ordered my case from Amazon

#

But it’s shipping from new egg

obsidian wigeon
#

probably sold by newegg on amazon

#

lol

sacred gale
#

My computer boots only to the bios but if I manually click on the m.2 it boots .-.

#

I hate this

#

Is there something I'm missing here or?

obsidian wigeon
#

that's very odd

sacred gale
#

Boot option 1 and boot override are the same ssd but it only boots automatically to the bios

#

But if I click on it manually it boots perfectly fine.

zealous edge
#

@sacred gale You can try to disable fast boot within the BIOS. Then try booting up again.

#

Still keep that m.2 drive as the #1 boot option.

sacred gale
#

Tried it, brought me back to the bios

mossy venture
#

It looks pretty similar

fossil cedar
final widget
fossil cedar
final widget
#

what’s the downside of getting a 650w instead? anything i should be worried about or reasons not to?

fossil cedar
final widget
#

yeah ig i’ll just get 750w for future upgrades

fossil cedar
#

Sorry wrong first link originally

final widget
#

are intergraded graphics in a cpu worth it

#

considering i’m gonna be using after effects and stuff like that

fossil cedar
#

Oh possibly I'm not sure if it helps in after effects tho

#

Yeah would probably do the 3070 list then, maybe 12600k non f

final widget
#

what does it help in?

queen jungle
#

Hi, I’m trying to switch from console to pc should I buy a pre-built pc or build my own?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
final widget
fossil cedar
#

Np

olive cypress
#

As Pato said

fossil cedar
#

Woah woah

#

There are good prebuilts

#

Especially in the us and Canada

olive cypress
#

Yeah but sometimes motherboard and ram are not specified, you may need to change/upgrade some parts

#

Basically don't go for "unknown components" prebuilts

fossil cedar
#

Yes sometimes

olive cypress
#

I still have trauma from when a long time ago I was looking for a pc, asked a local store to build one based on the main use of the pc and the cost was 1.2k€ for 3600+1660
💀

jagged ember
#

just know what you're getting with the prebuilt yeah

mossy venture
#

Marketplace is hilarious

#

3600x 3060 ti build, for "4k", listed at $2400

#

Has 4400mhz ram... on a 3600x

potent portal
#

Nothing says you can't run 4k on that. Does it specify 4k gaming? If not they can get away with saying 4k video playback. Yay loopholes and marketing.

mossy venture
#

What're the odds he runs it at jedec

#

Yeah he said 4k gaming

cyan ravine
#

yo 4k 30fps les go

potent portal
#

Hmm well you can still do 4k30 so it counts

cyan ravine
#

I play at that movie format yo

potent portal
#

21:9?

cyan ravine
#

sure

potent portal
#

Or was it 18.9:9 for 4k video... Idr

cyan ravine
#

lol

#

a critical detail like that is something I would see in an article like that

potent portal
#

Ok looked it up and it's recorded in 17:9 and cropped to native 21:9 so I guess I was right the first time

cyan ravine
#

omg the b660 strixes are so expensive

#

wth

earnest olive
#

of course

#

it's strix

cyan ravine
#

I know strix tax but also it's b660

earnest olive
#

just the brand name strix increases price by about 100%

cyan ravine
#

I should sell mugs that have strix stickers on them

earnest olive
#

I have 3 monitors and 2 are plugged into my igpu

#

only main monitor plugged into dgpu

#

I can also run apps like wallpaper engine, discord, firefox on the igpu

#

it's plenty useful

#

you kinda just have to decide how much price difference is worth it

#

for me it's worth $20

#

settings > display > graphics (scroll to the bottom of display)

cyan ravine
#

4 MonkaS

#

oh wait 1 is in the case

#

I rescind

earnest olive
#

but yeah I can run my internal monitor with wallpaper engine without any performance penalty

#

because the internal monitor is connected to igpu and the app is set to render from the igpu

#

so it never touches the dgpu

#

nvidia process monitor doesn't list it

earnest olive
#

yeah

#

some things you gotta dig for

upbeat lake
#

my gpu has a plastic cover on the top of it similar to the one on the bottom, am i meant to take it off?

#

its not like the thin plastic sheets btw

#

its like

#

the casing ig idk how to explain it

empty pollen
#

the back plate?

upbeat lake
#

i think so

#

idk

empty pollen
#

no

#

those are to provide rigidity to the card

upbeat lake
#

ah okay

empty pollen
#

the only thing to take off the card are the thin transparent plastic covers

upbeat lake
#

yep ofc

#

i got it second hand anyway so it wasnt on there

#

sadly

#

missed the best part

empty pollen
#

then its basically plug and play

upbeat lake
#

yep

#

ive had it built for a few days now

#

i just looked inside it and was like wait was i supposed to take that off

#

also i agree with you the 750ti is clearly the most powerful card on the market rn

rich void
mossy venture
empty pollen
#

no, 750ti or bust\

rich void
#

Yeah, GT 710 is op

empty pollen
upbeat lake
#

750 better

#

cope

rich void
#

My 710 doesn't have or need a fan

#

So checkmate

upbeat lake
#

personally im all about that nvidia potato 1000 ti

unknown.png
#

see it has a ram slot on the gpu its genius

#

truly the most innovative gpu to date

cyan ravine
#
  • laughs in 256 *
upbeat lake
#

cope

opal surge
#

hey guys, so im thinking of upgrading my cpu Ryzen 3 3200 to a ryzen 7 or 9 5800x on on my b450m vdh pro max with a corsair 750x psu. will i need to upgrade to a higher psu wattage?

hexed stirrup
#

Hey guys I need help I just finished building my PC but it won't post with sata connected it's a msi z690 edge

#

What can I do? This apparently is a problem with msi boards ?

#

With sata disconnected it posts and everything works

mossy venture
#

Make sure you update bios

hexed stirrup
#

I've already done a flash back and a update

#

It loaded on Linux with a USB drive

opal surge
little osprey
#

How much does dual channel ram increase fps?

#

Or just performance as a whole

desert gulch
#

Too vague of a question for us to answer

broken lake
#

ok so

#

probably a really stupid question

#

but

#

I found a 3080 on facebook marketplace for $500

#

worth the risk?

little osprey
desert gulch
#

Harder on the CPU to run and if you get the 4 sticks all in one kit it's dual rank

#

Kinda depends on what the CPU and motherboard all support

strong raft
hybrid briar
#

i got around a 2000 dollar budget but tbh not sure about pcs.

#

i want atleast 16gb of ram and a 3070 perhaps

#

i could stretch my budget to 2.5k

cyan ravine
#

With monitor? Wifi? Gaming or more?

hybrid briar
#

already got a monitor. just need to get a pc in order

#

a solid gaming rig. can just about run anything realistically with good quality

cyan ravine
#

Bad ping soz, wifi? @hybrid briar

hybrid briar
#

do i want wifi? I’m confused by the question

cyan ravine
#

Ye do you need it or nah