building-and-recc-chat

[broken lake]

Oh it’s not on sale for me lol

[broken lake]

Oh ok

Oh it just takes 2 more weeks to ship

[fossil cedar]

150$ and yeah lemme ping you with why so cheap

@elfin flame ^

Maybe

[earnest olive]

it's just a clever rebrand of what was a defective product

[fossil cedar]

Yup

Oh definitely

Great deal

[broken lake]

So is the $150 one different from the $170 one besides shipping?

Need it by the 27th

So that would work

I definitely won’t complain

I usually only order stuff with prime lol

I just steal my dads

I could get student if I wanted to tho

Yea but I get all that stuff with my dads prime also

Does Spotify have a student thing? I need to look into that

[still roost]

Bitch#2793 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[broken lake]

Oop

No no word

Sign me up lol

Me too

Ok wait

How did I not know about that one

I was literally just thinking about ordering food lol

Is that better than door dash?

Everything near me uses door dash

Sad

I usually just get Taco Bell or five guys XD

I don’t like boba and I just use the packets of ramen lol

[fossil cedar]

Yup

[forest briar]

I’m still on my Spotify and Hulu student plan from 6 years ago for $5/month

[fossil cedar]

It's only like 8?/month tbf

[forest briar]

If you have Verizon it’s included in your plan on most plans

[broken lake]

My friends uncle works at Disney so they get it for free and I stole his logins lol

[forest briar]

D+, espn and some others.

[broken lake]

It was only included for a year for me

[forest briar]

Top tier plan it’s the duration of the contract 🙂

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[forest briar]

Special case with me I pay much, much lower for the top tier plan than other carriers

Both my fiancé and I on that plan, and it’s $99/month

That’s nice

Dang

That’s one thing I like about T-Mobile is their in flight WiFi deal

Transferred to Verizon because T-Mobile coverage is subpar at best in my city

Had good experience with them though

[broken lake]

Idk what plan I have lol

[forest briar]

Tons of ultra wide coverage in my part of the city too

Very nice

[broken lake]

I’m going to college in providence so I’m not too worried about coverage there lol

Should be plenty

[forest briar]

lol

With Verizon I said I fell out of a helicopter and walk funny

They said “ok sir $99/m pls”

• signed Mr Veteran Goose

[vague oracle]

Transferred to Verizon from T-mobile because T-Mobile silently downgraded their international plan from 3g to 2G speeds in Europe

[forest briar]

That’s a huge oof

[vague oracle]

…and well I wanted a $300 13 pro max

[forest briar]

Lol

I’m about to get my free upgrade to the 13 I think

[frank locust]

@oblique sage yo are those pudding caps in your build pic

[vague oracle]

They downgraded it 2 years ago

And they only announced it this year lol

Yeah I was in Poland 2 years ago and they forced me to pay an extra $80 to get my normal 3g international speeds for a week instead of the free 2G speeds

[frank stirrup]

I dislike telecom companies dropping 3g from their telephony system or forcing 4g only

bottom tier

[desert gulch]

thats cheap to me lol

im on Fi since it offers incredbile coverage in my area but its $10 a gig, you dont even get a gig free a month

[vague oracle]

…the hell?

[desert gulch]

crazy cheap if you just text/call tho since thats all unlimited and included in the like $10-15 a month lol

mhmm

$10 a gig is just crazy tho

[frank stirrup]

hehe my plan gives me 40gb data free a month

[vague oracle]

Last month I wouldve paid over 1k

[frank stirrup]

and it carries over to like 200gb if I use less than 40gb

[desert gulch]

i think Fi gives it to you free after $100 in data

so its like unlimited after like 10 gigs that you pay $100 total for

but still

[vague oracle]

I have no clue how either spotify and safari use so much data

Doesn’t it just step down to 4g if the 5G signal is bad?

[desert gulch]

what quality is your music in?

[vague oracle]

Low because apparently my phone is permanently in data saver mode

I have some music downloaded but I listen to so much that it would take up way too much storage

[frank stirrup]

amateur

[vague oracle]

Lol I literally have 57gb of music downloaded on my phone rn

[frank stirrup]

put in an sd card bro

:)

[vague oracle]

I really should

Kinda hard to play music through your car from an MP3

[forest briar]

Entertainmart down the road has OG iPods for $15

[frank stirrup]

simply put in an sd card into iphone

o wait

i forgot iphones are garbage

nvm

[vague oracle]

Bluetooth would work lol

My car for some goddamn reason doesn’t have an aux

[forest briar]

Fm radio pirate

Walmart also has single din Bluetooth stereos for like $30

[vague oracle]

Would it make any sense to swap out my car’s radio for something modern?

[desert gulch]

do you have a usb port?

[forest briar]

I’ve done so every car I’ve owned that didn’t have BT

It’s easily done. Would take you 30 minutes even if you’ve never done it before

[desert gulch]

my work truck has no aux but the charging usb-a port actually works as an aux

[broken lake]

yes

I did it a couple weeks ago

[forest briar]

Some double din stereos with touch screens are cheap too

[broken lake]

$200 and maybe an hour of work

[vague oracle]

Already came with one stock

[forest briar]

Looks like a Jeep Liberty dash lol

[broken lake]

I am gonna do new speakers and a sub pretty soon

[forest briar]

Building a nice sub box is pretty easy

Have built several ported and sealed boxes

[vague oracle]

Bit of MDF and you’re good to go

[forest briar]

Zapco class A/B amp and kicker comp r subs make a good pair

@vague oracle I’d go to Walmart and buy a cheap single din radio and some bullet connectors

Whenever I flip cars without radios I out one of these in

[vague oracle]

Are Harmon/Kardon speakers any good? It’s what came stock in my car

[forest briar]

Cheap and works fine

Yes they are

Do you have a Kia?

[vague oracle]

Mercedes

[forest briar]

Ah

[forest briar]

Either way yes they are good.

[vague oracle]

Would it be a pain to swap out the radio in this?

[jagged ember]

probably

[forest briar]

No

[jagged ember]

I've never swapped a radio

[forest briar]

You’ll need to order a spacer bracket to fill in all the empty space and you’ll need a 1.5 din

[vague oracle]

I would want something that would be an upgrade over the current one, probably something like you’d find on modern Mercedes’ cars

[forest briar]

Expect to spend $200+ for anything worthwhile

Sony makes some awesome touch screens

[vague oracle]

Do I need to worry about my speakers or anything when looking for a new one?

[forest briar]

Unless the output is lower than what your speakers need no. And I highly doubt with every ounce of doubt in my mind you would even run into that

Some Mercedes’ have auxiliary batteries connecting to nonessential electronics so make sure you check your manual and ensure you don’t have one

Models going back to early 2000s have had them so.

[vague oracle]

Ok thanks

Would it make any sense to upgrade my speakers/ amp while I do this?

[forest briar]

How old is the car?

[vague oracle]

2012

[forest briar]

Unless you’re wanting to push much more sound through at much higher quality I wouldn’t bother.

To have something that beats your current system you’ll spend more than $1000

[vague oracle]

Hehe this system is better than I thought it seems lol

Decided to touch up the car since I’ll stick with it for the next 1-2 years while in college

[forest briar]

Hardon Karmon makes a nice system

Lots of luxury brands use them if they don’t have Rockford Fosgate

[vague oracle]

Performs well enough for its age and only about 75k miles on it

[desert gulch]

where you goin?

[vague oracle]

Don’t think a 5.1 sec 0-60 is bad

[vague oracle]

Rensselaer Polytechnic

[desert gulch]

nice

[forest briar]

You're about at the point the valve cover gasket, oil pan gaskets and timing chain needing replaced

$$$$$$$ for that stuff

[vague oracle]

How much would that be roughly?

[forest briar]

is your car turbo 8cyl or 6cyl

[vague oracle]

6

No turbo

[forest briar]

Probabyl close to $3000

[desert gulch]

its the 3.5 right?

[vague oracle]

Considering I paid 5k for the car not too bad

[vague oracle]

Yeah

[desert gulch]

figured

meanwhile im waiting for damn car market to calm down before buying next vehicle

[vague oracle]

How would I know if it’s time to replace those parts?

[desert gulch]

looking at those newer tacomas but the market is just crazy

[forest briar]

(it won't affect new car prices much at all)

(just availability)

[desert gulch]

any leaks of oil?

[vague oracle]

Nope none

[desert gulch]

thats a good start atleast

[vague oracle]

Feels slightly less responsive than it used to be tho

[forest briar]

automatic yes

?

[vague oracle]

Yeah

Was a bit jumpy at times leading to a few accidental drifts

[desert gulch]

maybe throttle body issues or something

[vague oracle]

That was only maybe 2 or 3 times, usually feels a lot sluggish than it was maybe a month or two ago

[desert gulch]

could be fuel filter or lines kinda clogged

[forest briar]

TPS or throttle body itself might be going bad

[desert gulch]

when the car is running, open the hood and go towards where throttle body is and listen for clicking

if you hear clicking noise from throttle body, thats an issue

[vague oracle]

Okay

Should I maybe just take it to my mechanic to see if he notices anything?

[desert gulch]

could do that, does it have any codes or a check engine light?

[forest briar]

If you don't know how to work on your own stuff yes

[vague oracle]

Nope

[forest briar]

No poitn in us telling you what to look for if you don't.

Wouldn't touch that car anyways. Too many electronics you can seriously screw up

[vague oracle]

I can work on my own stuff, just not 100% what to look for

[forest briar]

the stuff you'll need done you'll want to take to a shop if you aren't actually skilled and knowledgeable.

[desert gulch]

if you have a code scanner that could be good if it has live data on it

[vague oracle]

I think I’ll just take it to my mechanic

[desert gulch]

ye

[frank stirrup]

This isnt general chat smh

[vague oracle]

The electronics are the only part of the car I actually know well

[desert gulch]

@forest briar you should hear my timing chain lmaoooo

on the hardbody

its metal guides but sometimes when you start it, that thing rattles pretty loud

[forest briar]

good idea

[vague oracle]

Stupid idea, would installing a turbo be even a tiny bit of a good idea

[forest briar]

Not on the 3.5 no

[dusky hearth]

wish dot com turbo charger

[vague oracle]

Out of curiosity why?

[dusky hearth]

yes

[vague oracle]

I’m guessing one part of it is the car is heavy as hell

[forest briar]

3.5 isn't meant to handle the higher compression a turbo pushes through the cylinders

[dusky hearth]

https://youtu.be/NtnEaiSzGOo

[forest briar]

weak camshafts and output shaft, transmission also isn't properly geared for the torque

[desert gulch]

if mercedez couldve turbo that thing from factory, they wouldve

xD

[forest briar]

best you can do is cold air intake, wider throttle body, exhaust headers, fuel rail

get a better tune

turbo is out of the question though

[vague oracle]

And I’m guessing that if I was to do that it would cost too much that it would be better to just buy the Supra I was looking at

[forest briar]

MK3, MK4 or new

[vague oracle]

2022 Supra GR 3.0

[forest briar]

I wouldn't

[vague oracle]

Why?

[forest briar]

Might as well buy a BMW for that price

comes with all the same issues that Toyota doesn't cover under warranty because it comes from bimmer factories

[vague oracle]

I could get it used with 24k miles for 54k

Still too high?

[forest briar]

Better be ready to shill out some phat bucks to maintain.

They are not toyota's most structurally or mechanically sound products in a while

[vague oracle]

Sounds like a hard pass then

I know I asked this many times in the past but what you recommend that performs on par if not better than the Mercedes I have now?

[forest briar]

Nissan 350/370z would be a better buy

[vague oracle]

Aren’t Nissans unreliable tho?

[forest briar]

Not necessarily. Newer ones are completely fine.

sub 2014 yes

[vague oracle]

Also why are almost all sports cars RWD?

[forest briar]

Front wheel drive has poor vectoring for power::weight, AWD isn't designed to be functional on a tracked environment and is prone to slipping and poor differential control, RWD ensures all torque is pushed aft of the center of gravity for most launch control, steering envelope, and reaction of input.

RWD gives the widest envelope of operability in a tracked environment, including drag racing.

[vague oracle]

How would I get RWD to work better on snow?

I’m guessing winter tires are my only choice really?

[forest briar]

You won't lol

RWD is almost completely useless in snow.

[vague oracle]

That’s why we bought the BMW X5

[dusky hearth]

[vague oracle]

Guess that answers my question, new car once I leave college lol

Way too much snow by my college

Maybe those BMW M4s will be better in 5 years

[forest briar]

Will never be caught owning another BMW ever again

[vague oracle]

What did a BMW do to you?

[forest briar]

THey are unreliable junk lol

absurd prices, horrible maintenance practices

warranties don't cover most stuff that tnds to go wrong (because BMW knows this and won't shell out the money to engineer better hardware).

Only BMW I ever owned was a 1983 BMW E30 M3.

[vague oracle]

Yeah the maintenance is why I’m passing on the M4 currently

Dream car but I want something at least somewhat reliable

[dusky hearth]

?????

[still roost]

lunatic#2495 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lunatic#2495 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[dusky hearth]

no matter how many times i watch this, i still have no clue how they managed to turn into there

bmw driver moment

[vague oracle]

99% drunk

[forest briar]

BMW drivers sign away half their usable braincells when they leave with their POS from the dealer.

[vague oracle]

How are the Mercedes AMG C63s compared to the M4s?

Same pile of garbage?

[forest briar]

same thing different badge

unless you're war pig then mercedes is gods gift to earth

[vague oracle]

Does where the car was manufactured affect reliability?

[forest briar]

sometimes

hasn't really been a factor since th e90s

[vague oracle]

When I was in Poland I had the chance of test driving a Chinese and German C63 and the quality difference was massive

Was wondering if maybe that’s why my Mercedes has lasted so long without major issues

[broken lake]

@fossil cedar what's the difference between the 12600k and the 12600kf?

[desert gulch]

one has integrated graphics and one doesnt

the "f" means it wont have integrated graphics, so youd basically need a graphics card to get anything to show up on your monitor

[broken lake]

so is there a reason to buy the k and not the kf?

cause the kf is $20 cheaper and I have a graphics card

[dusky hearth]

easier debugging to see if gpu has problems i guess

$20 cheaper isnt that much of a money save tbh

[broken lake]

so is it worth spending the extra $20?

[fossil cedar]

Eh it's up to you, i was just going off cheapest prices possible and it was only 10$ more for the k instead of kf up to you tho

[broken lake]

so like performance wise it is the same?

[desert gulch]

yes

if you encode/decode (like streaming), the non f would be nice to have

QSV poggers

[broken lake]

so the kf or something else?

[fossil cedar]

12600kf is good yeah

[broken lake]

ok so before I spend this much money I just wanna double check one more time

is this all the right stuff?

[dusky hearth]

isnt nvenc better

[broken lake]

you guys are speaking a foreign language to me XD

I have no idea what QSV or nvenc is

[dusky hearth]

hardware encoders for video

[broken lake]

how much more is something like that?

[dusky hearth]

amd uses vce, intel uses qsv, and nvidia uses nvenc; all are different but do the same thing, which is video encode using a dedicated portion of the ic

it make video recording speed

[broken lake]

so that's gpu not cpu?

[dusky hearth]

both cpu and gpu can have it

[broken lake]

cuz I do stream sometimes

is it worth getting something like that?

sorry for asking so many questions btw I am new to building and buying pcs

[dusky hearth]

which gpu do you have

[broken lake]

right now I have a 1080ti but I will be purchasing a 3080 or better when the 40 series drops

[dusky hearth]

damn rommy typed it before i could

[broken lake]

I've only ever built one pc and I didn't buy the components for that one so that's all the experience I have

[dusky hearth]

but yeah, it only gets annoying if people ask the same question over and over again; just learning different things and asking different questions is perfectly fine

[broken lake]

my pc that I have now is a prebuilt

yea for sure lol

[dusky hearth]

there will always be a first time building a pc

better to ask more questions now than to mess up and have to figure out what's wrong afterwards

[broken lake]

so how do I tell if my gpu has that streaming thing?

[dusky hearth]

well, all current nvidia consumer gpus should have nvenc

and nvenc afaik has the best quality, so you should just need to use that encoder

[broken lake]

and then does the 12600k have it too?

[dusky hearth]

i know that some server cards don't have nvenc, but that's not something the typical consumer would have

[dusky hearth]

that would have QSV because it's intel

[broken lake]

having both wouldn't mess anything up would it?

[dusky hearth]

it won't

[broken lake]

ok

ok well I think it is time to purchase everything

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-sus-mad-sus-acting-sus-watching-gif-25962258

[fossil cedar]

You're missing the psu in that screenshot but yes

[broken lake]

yea cause I am not paying the $50 extra to make it white lol

[fossil cedar]

Getting elsewhere ?

[broken lake]

yea

[fossil cedar]

They have 1080 ti anyway

[broken lake]

oh my bank account and my dad are both gonna kill me later XD

[fossil cedar]

Lol

Some parts

[broken lake]

without the psu I am already spending $715 lol

[fossil cedar]

Next gen afail

[broken lake]

probably when 40 series drops

currently just trying to down size and upgrade at the same time for portability and space in my dorm

60 pound pc and dorm isn't a great mix

lol

[dusky hearth]

i bought a laptop for that purpose lmao

[broken lake]

I got some extra money for graduation so I am putting it to use before I spend it all on pokemon cards LOL

[oblique sage]

Pudding caps?

[broken lake]

I bought a laptop but not a gaming one because I don't like gaming laptops

I just bought a cheap 2 in 1 for my classes

[desert gulch]

It ain't 2015 smh

[broken lake]

it's an addiction lol

which I think is finally ending because I realized that with how much I have spent on pokemon cards the past couple months I probably could've bought a new pc

[desert gulch]

Lol

[broken lake]

I do have some pretty valuable ones to sell tho

I have a couple $50+ cards and a $250+ card also

[undone saddle]

Sell them and buy a pc

[broken lake]

I will probably sell them soon

I need to part out my current pc and sell that too once all my new parts come

[frank locust]

The key caps

[broken lake]

RIP my bank account

[frank locust]

Is that a 12th gen

[fossil cedar]

Sheesh

Hot

[undone saddle]

Hidden pc

[fossil cedar]

Lian li a4 h20 or something

Bit expensive but they said they wanted it

[dusky hearth]

i could of bought an even better pc if i hadnt spent most of my money on steam lmao

[broken lake]

lian li a4-h2o

so now all I need to order is the psu and I will get new ram and a new gpu at a later date

[broken lake]

just about $160 so not cheap but not terrible either

[forest briar]

spent about the same for my Phanteks

[fossil cedar]

I meannn when nr200 is like 90 it do be kinda pricey

[broken lake]

yea but this one looks cooler lol

also all the nr200 I saw were like $115

inflation is the fakest thing ever

time for my bank account to hate me even more when I buy a psu

ok maybe not fake

but it is very exagerated

thanks!

everything should be here by the 21st

is B&H a reliable site to order from?

ok never ordered from them so just wanted to make sure

[potent portal]

Remember when a little Ceasar's pizza or a footlong sandwich were $5?
They're $9 now here

[broken lake]

god damn

ok power supply has been orderred

you are lucky if you can get a 6 inch for $5

[forest briar]

I got a footlong for $5

https://tenor.com/view/eyebrow-raise-shrek-serious-gif-14262407

JM is very good

I'm a Jimmy John's shill though

[potent portal]

I used to work at subway back in college. Most of the whole "fresh made" image is a facade. We really did chop up vegetables and bake bread and cookies all day, but often you got day old stuff. Whatever is left over at closing is used the next day and usually runs out around lunch rush.

[broken lake]

I eat at local sub shops lol

[forest briar]

I will say

The Steak and Egg on flatbread with jalapenos, southwest chipotle, lettuce and olives is a banger

Publix subs are also god tier

[potent portal]

Not to mention one the whole "my footlong isn't a foot long" lawsuit workers were instructed to just overproof the bread and let it hang off the side of the baking pan, which of course means you're not actually getting any more food it's just spread out more.

[forest briar]

I miss publix

[broken lake]

I don't have publix

never been

[forest briar]

Overly expensive grocery store but outstanding deli and hot meal section

[broken lake]

oh so kind like whole foods or wegmans?

[forest briar]

Can honestly say I've never shopped at whole foods

[potent portal]

I'll diss them until the day one opens in my area

[forest briar]

we have a different place called Sprouts that is leaps and bounds better

[potent portal]

100% sprouts is better

[forest briar]

I agree

Actual ethically sourced produced and products.

Whole Foods is just a walmart brand for the """organic as an aesthetic""" crowd.

Based on what I see online hell yes it is

Sprouts is expensive but it's a locally sourced, ethical product.

[broken lake]

there are no wegmans near me

[forest briar]

And I'm 100% about that life.

[potent portal]

The only reason I ever go into whole foods is for the specific brand of matcha my wife likes. Otherwise it's sprouts any day for healthy/specialty foods

[broken lake]

but I have been

it is great

indeed

the one I went to had like a whole restaurant in it lol

bjs is better than costco change my mind

[forest briar]

Costco is so dank

if not for the pizza, hotdogs, and entire food counter

it is amazing

yes

by far

Costco membership pays for itself over several times in gas savings alone

The one by my apartment isn't too too busy ever either, so gas line is reasonable.

[potent portal]

Costco is too far for me. I don't want to drive 25 minutes to get to a store when WinCo is 5 minutes away

[forest briar]

East Coast has BJ's which is also nice.l

They also have ShopRite

[broken lake]

I go to bjs

[potent portal]

We have a BJ's restaurant, is that what you're talking about?

[forest briar]

BJ's Brewhouse?

The place I'm talking about is another wholesale store like Costco/Sams

[broken lake]

no it's like the same as costco

but on the east coast

[vague oracle]

…Costco is also on the east coast

[formal girder]

went to bj's in arizona pretty decent imo

[fossil cedar]

Poor name choice...

[potent portal]

Only if your mind is in the gutter

[jagged ember]

Ben and Jerry's

BJ

[analog hearth]

Texas

(how to piss people off 101)

[dusky hearth]

flo rida

[analog hearth]

Blue Bell

that’s the joke

idiot

motor

[dusky hearth]

i don't speak american

[unique haven]

When I try to download windows it doesn’t show any drivers

I’m so confused

[cyan ravine]

For your new pc?

[unique haven]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

You need to go to the mobos support section

And download them there separately

Install after installing windows

Which mobo is it?

[unique haven]

Asus

[cyan ravine]

Asus...?

[unique haven]

Oh

B560

[cyan ravine]

B560 but which one lol

Need the whole name

[unique haven]

B560 & H570 series prime

[cyan ravine]

Is it h570 or b560 o.O

[cyan ravine]

Perfect

https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-B560-PLUS/HelpDesk_Download/

Select which windows you're installing then look for drivers under chipset

Mainly this one

[unique haven]

But how am I supposed to do that if I can’t even go to google on the pc?

[cyan ravine]

You download it on another pc

[desert gulch]

wait what?

[cyan ravine]

Stick it on a usb

[desert gulch]

if you have windows, it has basic enough of drivers to get goign

[cyan ravine]

Also this

[unique haven]

This is what it shows

[desert gulch]

oh you meant drives not drivers

totally diff things

[unique haven]

Oops

Sorry

[desert gulch]

see if the drives even show up in bios

[unique haven]

Where so I check?

[desert gulch]

bios

[unique haven]

Where should it show?

[cyan ravine]

What ssd did you put in

[desert gulch]

hm so no drives showing up

[cyan ravine]

Is this a sata ssd?

[unique haven]

970 evo plus

Yes

[cyan ravine]

Evo plus

M.2 pcie not sata

[desert gulch]

10th gen intel?

[unique haven]

Oh sorry

[cyan ravine]

Youre good

[unique haven]

Yes

[desert gulch]

put it in the bottom m.2 slot

top one doesnt work on b560 + 10th gen

so just turn it off and unplug then move the drive down

[unique haven]

Omg Tyson

[desert gulch]

np

[unique haven]

Tysm

[unique haven]

It worked!!

Do you think changing my fan hub would fix my case fans?

[forest briar]

What’s wrong with your fans?

[unique haven]

They won’t spin

[final widget]

https://lytetechnology.com/product/lyte-ember-pc/

is this a good prebuilt for the price?

[zinc mirage]

yo is this the cheeky help chat 👀

[cyan ravine]

No. You can beat it by building from scratch for 2/3 the price

[cyan ravine]

It do be a little bit cheeky

[zinc mirage]

welll what if i told you my brand new prix pro i5 isnt sending a signal to my monitor

its pretty dog

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WdWqrD
Example

[cyan ravine]

Prix pro i5?

[zinc mirage]

oops brix

[cyan ravine]

Brix?

[zinc mirage]

the gigabyte barebones mini pcs

[cyan ravine]

Oh

[desert gulch]

no bios flash with newest 5600 sku tho

[zinc mirage]

comes with all the goodies aside from ram and storage

[cyan ravine]

Ye would need to do that

Take it to a place to flash

[cyan ravine]

Try a different display cable?

[zinc mirage]

ive tried a few

usb c several hdmi cords

several displays

[cyan ravine]

Can you see a post sequence inside?

[final widget]

can someone give me a $1300 build with rgb, a nvidia card,. a AIO/liquid cooled cpu cooler and at least 1tb of storage for gaming and editing

[muted carbon]

i accidentally brought a 3000mhz ram instead ofa 3200mhz would there me any major different

[cyan ravine]

No

Maybe, maybe 1 fps

So small you'll never notice it

[zinc mirage]

i dont see any post sequence

they kinda put the parts you need to install right side up

and everything else under

hard to take it all apart

weird little cables about

[cyan ravine]

Maybe reseat the ram

[zinc mirage]

yep did that

and swapped it for 1 and 2 and top and bottom

etc

[cyan ravine]

Does it absolutely have to have an aio? Cos the best build for this budget only needs a small air cooler at most

[cyan ravine]

Yeah would try reseating as many cables you see then

[final widget]

it doesn’t have too but i just dislike how air cpu coolers look but if it benefits the build more to not have one then it’s ok

[cyan ravine]

It really would yeah

Lots more rgb

Without

[final widget]

alr

i’m fine with it then

[cyan ravine]

Actually

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/szTcgb

If you could stretch a little more on the budget (1360-ish) I could fit an aio and a better cpu in and make it worthwhile

Would look like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HbPBzf

[mossy venture]

Gf1 850 same price :p

[cyan ravine]

Gf1 good?

Oh i c

I fix

[mossy venture]

Not a huge difference either way, considering a 650 would be fine

[cyan ravine]

Still, I learned thermaltake exists today

Probably the second time ever it's been on my radar

@final widget take a look at those two options and see what you think

[final widget]

thanks

[cyan ravine]

Actually another $5 I can put the g360a back in the 12600kf one

Both cases would work for either one

[broken lake]

@elfin flame you were right. The mobo is coming the 16th even tho I ordered the one that was supposed to come the 21st

I’m so impatient now

Can’t wait until the 16th lol

I think I need to buy a couple more fans at some point too

let me check how many fans I need lol

oh this case only uses the 2 fans on the aio lol

[desert gulch]

huh?

[desert gulch]

oh talking about just the top yeah

[broken lake]

I think it only uses 2 fans

[desert gulch]

the whole case?

[broken lake]

yea I think so

https://lian-li.com/product/a4h2o/

[desert gulch]

nah

oh sfx

[broken lake]

yea

is buying different fans worth it or should I just leave the stock fans on the cooler

[mossy venture]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/wjqbet/usaca_hgpus_nvdia_rtx_3090_wcash_or_paypal/ what is this

excuse me

that is a HUGE mining farm

[vague oracle]

@analog pulsar I think you might like the EVGA ones

[analog pulsar]

[rich void]

"recently purchased"

[obsidian wigeon]

definitely not mining rig

the price is ntb

but lower would be better imo

[desert gulch]

OP himself said it

[obsidian wigeon]

nice

good that he's being honest

[desert gulch]

hes also selling a miner on that post

[undone saddle]

I wouldnt buy used tech unless from friend

[obsidian wigeon]

i have bought quite a few used tech

it's fairly safe

especially when the previous owner has taken care of the stuff

[undone saddle]

With my luck they would be dead tech

[potent portal]

Just cover your ass and get proof things are working, like a gpu-z screenshot. If there's something weird about the screenshot like 0 memory, it's bad.

[obsidian wigeon]

^

Or go in person if possible

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[obsidian wigeon]

I got my laptop in person, was pretty good experience with the seller

He even bothered to walk out to the parking lot cause I can't find any in the shopping center the shop was in

[cyan ravine]

A very public spot is always a good idea

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[lethal tapir]

Don't forget your anti-static wrist bracelet

And gun

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[twilit quarry]

what do u recommend https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y3dcgb

[obsidian wigeon]

do you plan to oc cpu?

[twilit quarry]

yes

[obsidian wigeon]

okay then i don't see any problems

[twilit quarry]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

other than ssd

tho it's not really a problem

[twilit quarry]

what do u recommend for that

[obsidian wigeon]

it's just that there's s70 blade that's faster

if you really want the fastest ssd

[twilit quarry]

i was thinking just get the 980pro as my main ssd and once that gets almost full then prolly get another for just games

by another i mean like a 970 evo plus

[obsidian wigeon]

for secondary even an mp33 is just fine

970 evo plus is overpriced

[twilit quarry]

alright well i wont be getting the secondary for a little while so i can figure that out then

but also for undervolting the gpu ill prolly do that to help with temps but how does it affect the performance

[obsidian wigeon]

likely makes it better

cause it can run cooler and boost better

[twilit quarry]

alright cool so ill most likely do that

[obsidian wigeon]

but i would spend a bit more for gaming z trio tbh

[twilit quarry]

i already got the gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

it's good from factory

hm okay, i forgot about that

[twilit quarry]

yea

i could return it

but

idk

[obsidian wigeon]

if you don't mind waiting more, i would say return it

[twilit quarry]

yeah i was thinking abt it but idk i dont really wanna

[obsidian wigeon]

it's not really the end of the world if you do stick with ventus

[twilit quarry]

as long as once i undervolt it it will be good temps and good performance then im good

cuz i want this system to last 4+ years

preferably like 6 or somethign

but at least 4

so what do u think the temps will be once i undervolt it

bcuz as long as they good then everything else will be good

[obsidian wigeon]

i think it'll be just fine

[twilit quarry]

ok hopefully

[obsidian wigeon]

if it isn't then return is the route

[twilit quarry]

either way after i get the rest of the parts if the gpu does suck then hopefully i can still return it

yea exactly

[obsidian wigeon]

ventus is just known to be you know, pretty mediocre

it's msi's bottom end

[twilit quarry]

yea

damn

well

its still a 3080

a 1650 to a 3080

so either way this will still be a great upgrade

[obsidian wigeon]

that's still a pretty big upgrade

[twilit quarry]

but yea hopefully it will be good otherwise hopefully i will still be able to return it

so just to clarify if it really isint good and im still able to return it then get this? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qFytt6/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-12gb-lhr-12-gb-gaming-z-trio-video-card-geforce-rtx-3080-gaming-z-trio-12g-lhr

[obsidian wigeon]

depends on the return window

it's usually 7 days

if the other parts of the build comes before that you'll have time to test

[twilit quarry]

i havent even ordered the other parts and prolly wont be able to for like another week or so

when i go to return it on newegg it says i have 20 days left to return

[cyan ravine]

I would if you could imo unless you'd be net like $100 less

Cos shipping costs

Gaming z will be easily better but not worth breaking the bank over

[twilit quarry]

it would only be like 40$ more than what i paid for ventus 3x

[potent portal]

They'll still be taking a restock fee out if you return it probably

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah then go for it tbh

restock fee shouldn't be too steep

i hope

[cyan ravine]

If there's this, imo not worth

10, 15, 20%

Sometimes can be nasty

[obsidian wigeon]

ouch

[potent portal]

I've seen 15% restock fees before, which on a $600 GPU adds up to $90

[cyan ravine]

My local pc shop recently hiked to 20% from 10%

[broken lake]

sorry to interupt your conversation but is it worth buying 2 new fans over the stock aio fans if those are the only 2 fans in my case?

[cyan ravine]

Which aio

[broken lake]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TYMB1MG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[cyan ravine]

Eh why that one, have you bought it yet

[broken lake]

yea I bought it but I can cancel the order

[desert gulch]

Pretty sure with wegg that's only if you open the box

[cyan ravine]

Evga clc is half that

[broken lake]

someone recomended it to me earlier

[twilit quarry]

on newegg it says the est refund is exactly what i paid

[broken lake]

is that one good?

[cyan ravine]

Evga clc + p12 is two thirds that deepcool and better easily

[desert gulch]

Iirc with wegg stuff you just have to pay return shipping unless you open the box but I'd check the terms just to double check

[cyan ravine]

One sec I get a link

[broken lake]

ok

[twilit quarry]

i did open the box and look at it just havent taken it out

[desert gulch]

Oh

[pale dust]

wait the castle 360 is 99

thats pretty good

[pale dust]

and also looks way worse

[twilit quarry]

of the packing

that the gpu itself is in

[cyan ravine]

Castle 360 for 99 sounds better

Castle 240 for 112 is no good

[twilit quarry]

idk i dont really wanna have to return it and stuff so u think it will still be really good after i undervolt it

[broken lake]

the 240 was only $80

[desert gulch]

I haven't personally had hands-on time with it so I can't really give too much info on it

[broken lake]

plus my case only supports a 240

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/evga/krZ2FT

[broken lake]

is this better or just cheaper?

[pale dust]

compared to the deep cool?

[broken lake]

yea

[cyan ravine]

Maybe my amazon breaking again but I looked at all the options there and didn't find an 80 so my bad if I'm not seeing it (it's happened before)

[broken lake]

well I got that one for $80

[cyan ravine]

But clc is definitely better performing

But if you want rgb

[pale dust]

might be comparable idk

[cyan ravine]

They've got that new ls720 on the way

Or 520 I guess is the smaller one

That one shows promise

[pale dust]

interesting

i still kinda like the look of this pump head better though

[cyan ravine]

Pcpp not showing a decent price for ls520 yet tho

[desert gulch]

https://www.amazon.com/DeepCool-High-Performance-Radiator-Auto-RGB-Customizable/dp/B09Y1LVCYH

poggggggggggggg

[cyan ravine]

Ye it's looking good

[desert gulch]

for the best 360mm aio? hell yeah

[broken lake]

rgb is not at all an issue for me

I cannot see into my case

[cyan ravine]

Comparable to the sapphire aio which is really good

Oh then get clc

If you want quiet fans, get p12s

[broken lake]

is that the one you sent?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[cyan ravine]

.

[broken lake]

I was thinking I might just 2 noctua fans

[cyan ravine]

Arctic p12s as a fan swap for quiet fans

[desert gulch]

bad value

[cyan ravine]

Nah arctics are just as good

But more importantly

Only $7 a fan or something

Versus like 30 per noctua

[broken lake]

so noctua bad or just not worth the price

[desert gulch]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/QE4nOQI9lgBeC-Kiy1rKgaRnfFks9ziafrGJryh3ZX0/%3Ft%3D1659592232.4408815/https/gitlab.com/pcmasterrace/discord/pcmr-discord-bot-commands/-/raw/master/command_images/Fan_Guide_New.png?width=1205&height=671

[jagged ember]

not worth the price

[cyan ravine]

Just not worth the price

[jagged ember]

good, though

[desert gulch]

this is a great chart to look at

[jagged ember]

i'd rather get P12s

than noctuas

[cyan ravine]

I feel like I've said it before but this needs pinning

[desert gulch]

yeah

[cyan ravine]

We barely scratch the surface here of good fan recommendations

[desert gulch]

i may get luke to post it here then get it pinned since he deserves credit for it kinda since its cultists

[cyan ravine]

That would be good

[desert gulch]

yea

[broken lake]

can you send an amazon link to the p12s?

[potent portal]

Put it in #old-cooling and I'll pin it

[desert gulch]

ig yeah

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/68WfrH/arctic-p12-563-cfm-120-mm-fan-acfan00120a

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LmCFf7/arctic-p12-pst-563-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-acfan00137a

[obsidian wigeon]

unifans sucks

[broken lake]

how does the rebate work for that cooler?

[obsidian wigeon]

but people keeps buying em

[broken lake]

unifans?

[obsidian wigeon]

lian li

[broken lake]

oh they look cool lol

but $35 for one fan is insane

[cyan ravine]

SL120's are up there for all looks and no airflow

Like, near the top

[obsidian wigeon]

ye lol

[cyan ravine]

To quote luke, "90mm fans in 120mm cages" lol

[obsidian wigeon]

all show no go

[broken lake]

does the rebate go back to my card for the evga aio?

[obsidian wigeon]

no

it's like a gift card or something

that you can use on any products on the shop

or anywhere

depending on policy

[broken lake]

oh so I am not actually saving money by buying it

[desert gulch]

its like a prepaid visa typically

[obsidian wigeon]

you do

[desert gulch]

its kinda like a little loan

[obsidian wigeon]

but it's not direct savings

[cyan ravine]

Oh a prepaid visa is your money back

[desert gulch]

its not instant but you totally save money

[obsidian wigeon]

^

you can use it

for anything else

[broken lake]

oh wait

it is instant savings

sick

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

you might have to wait

but it's still money saved

[broken lake]

no like my card is only being charged $60

[cyan ravine]

And you get evga customer service with their stuff

[broken lake]

and apparently since it was through pc parts picker I saved an extra $6 so it came out to $54

[potent portal]

If it's direct from EVGA they do tend to have instant rebates

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[potent portal]

Nice, love those affiliate codes

[obsidian wigeon]

that's p nice

more saving

[cyan ravine]

$54 huh

Felix will remember that

[broken lake]

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

hp victus is even cheaper

heck

i need it

[cyan ravine]

Victus laptop $50??

[obsidian wigeon]

no

but it below 900

like 870 rn lol

[cyan ravine]

You said cheaper than 54

[obsidian wigeon]

na

[cyan ravine]

[obsidian wigeon]

it's something else

and it's in color i want too

blue

[cyan ravine]

870 pretty nice, this a 3060 model?

[obsidian wigeon]

wait it's actually 839

yes

with 5800h

[cyan ravine]

Me am forget, too many laptops lately

[obsidian wigeon]

i only aim for 3060

[cyan ravine]

839 is nice for any 3060 lappy

[potent portal]

What power though

[obsidian wigeon]

anything lower sucks

95w

[cyan ravine]

So mid tier

[potent portal]

Meh

[cyan ravine]

Upper 3060q

[obsidian wigeon]

it's only a few percent behind 130w one tho

[potent portal]

Good for the price still

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[obsidian wigeon]

which is a decent compromise

for the very cheap price tag

[cyan ravine]

Cheap 3060 lappy's still slappy

[broken lake]

ok ordered the aio

another $20 saved

[obsidian wigeon]

ram is thankfully 2x8

dual channel

[cyan ravine]

Oh foxy I ordered more ram for mine

[broken lake]

brings my total spent down to $845 but the fans will bring it back to $865 lol

[obsidian wigeon]

how much more?

[cyan ravine]

Mine is single stick so I added another 16gb

I need it anyway for my work

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

ddr5 moment

[cyan ravine]

I've committed an atrocity in the process though

[potent portal]

My laptop has 5gb of ram

[obsidian wigeon]

tbh im not even mad of asus giving one stick of 16 gigs lol

it's dual channel

perf loss isn't even bad

compared to two sticks running in quad

[cyan ravine]

The only sticks available here are vengememes

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

c*rsair

[cyan ravine]

[potent portal]

"Dual channel" but not really. At least there's no real lost performance.

[obsidian wigeon]

hey at least it's just jedec

but yes

that's what i like about ddr5

single stick is still fine

[cyan ravine]

Ye it's fine. Should be fine mixing the sticks for that reason

[broken lake]

so how bad are the stock fans compared to the p12s?

[obsidian wigeon]

what case?

[cyan ravine]

I could've bought the same ram again tho, it was south korean hynix oem sticks inside

[obsidian wigeon]

that's good

[potent portal]

On the CLC? Or your case fans?

[cyan ravine]

I'd say similar performing on the clc, but the p12s are by far quieter

[obsidian wigeon]

if on the clc

i would suggest make the fan curve max out at 80%

cause 100% is loud

[potent portal]

Yeah those fans will scream

[broken lake]

my case only has the aio so would it be worth upgrading the 2 fans?

[cyan ravine]

Put simply you'll hear pretty much every other sound the pc makes before you truly hear p12's

[obsidian wigeon]

i would just use extra fans for case

[broken lake]

don't have case fans

[obsidian wigeon]

well if you're buying them that is

[potent portal]

I can hear my power supply over my p14 fans, and it's a quiet Corsair one

[cyan ravine]

Exactly

[potent portal]

Plus behind a shroud

[frigid night]

is the rm750 (non x) a good psu?

[potent portal]

A tier

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[frigid night]

alright. found a icue 220T with that psu and 6 corsair sp120 rgb fans fro $100

[potent portal]

The X is just slightly better fan and filtering iirc

[broken lake]

so from what I am hearing I should buy these fans and just take the other 2 out completely

[frigid night]

I hope this is a good deal?

[cyan ravine]

You can use the clc fans for airflow into the case @broken lake run them at low rpm

Like really low

[broken lake]

no like there is no spot in my case for any other fans

it literally only has the aio

[cyan ravine]

Oh

Then ye take the clc's out if you want peace and quiet

[broken lake]

https://lian-li.com/product/a4h2o/

small case moment

[cyan ravine]

Owo

A4 h2o is nice for sff

If you're spending on sff then yes I would call the extras on two p12's worth it

[broken lake]

yea I have decided that I am going to college and I would like to downsize from my 60 pound alienware pre built lol

so I said screw it and spent almost $900 today

[potent portal]

It's a good thing you didn't get the liquid freezer AIO, it's got a thicker radiator that can have issues installing in tight spaces.

[dense scroll]

does anyone know if a high wattage PSU will work for a weaker system, I found a good deal on a 1200W PSU but my system won't need nearly as much, will I damage anything with the extra power?

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[jagged ember]

will only draw as much as the system needs

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[mossy venture]

What model?

[broken lake]

my pc currently has a 1500w in it XD

[obsidian wigeon]

getting that high wattage is simply overkill imo

cause it's usually not cheap

[mossy venture]

There's a lot of high wattage psus that are ass and could catch fire

[obsidian wigeon]

at all

[jagged ember]

true

[obsidian wigeon]

unless the system needs it

[jagged ember]

model is the most important

[obsidian wigeon]

and ^

[mossy venture]

Mm

[broken lake]

what is the difference between the p12 and the p12 pwm?

[obsidian wigeon]

p12 is 3 pin, dc

pwm is well 4 pin

[mossy venture]

I'd rather have an A tier 750 with a 3080 than a random no name 1200

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[mossy venture]

Mfw Thermaltake smart

[jagged ember]

PWM basically means speed controlled

[broken lake]

so how do I tell which fans work with what I have?

[obsidian wigeon]

any will work

but pwm is always good

[broken lake]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

so just go for it

better control of speed

[broken lake]

it's only like a dollar more anyway

[potent portal]

PWM is theoretically more power efficient since the voltage is constant and nominal

[broken lake]

just wanted to make sure it would work

[obsidian wigeon]

dc is just literally

sending voltage to tell how fast the fan should spin

[cyan ravine]

How old is this psu you found. New?

[broken lake]

ok got the cheaper aio and the p12s

my aio is gonna be the last thing to come

it is gonna be so hard to not put the rest of the pc together first lol

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[frigid night]

Aye, like front mount in a 4000D

[cyan ravine]

Idk what building in the dan a4 is like but usually in sff you're making room for everything so missing a part you might end up getting the cable management wrong or needing to take the whole board out to reassemble with the clc mounted for example

Really gotta wait imo

[mossy venture]

I love it when people ask a question and don't respond

[broken lake]

yea def gonna wait

[mossy venture]

Like, it's an active channel. People are actively talking here

[broken lake]

it's just 2-3 days extra

[mossy venture]

Stick around for literally 10 seconds

[dense scroll]

yo my bad I was in the middle of something

[mossy venture]

More so a general statement

People do it a lot

[dense scroll]

it's an EVGA platinum which is why I'm tempted

[mossy venture]

P2?

[cyan ravine]

Ooo

P2?

[dense scroll]

brand new for 150

[cyan ravine]

P6?

[mossy venture]

What's the model name

[dense scroll]

p3

[mossy venture]

Nice

Pretty sure that's one of the good ones

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[dense scroll]

it's actually on Newegg

[obsidian wigeon]

a tier

afaik

[dense scroll]

thanks for the help everyone

[mossy venture]

I say go for it, if you'll utilize it eventually

[cyan ravine]

Speculative tier b

[mossy venture]

Wait really?

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

[cyan ravine]

I just checked

[mossy venture]

Isn't that one of the seasonic oems?

[cyan ravine]

But idk why b

[obsidian wigeon]

well it's still 1200w

[cyan ravine]

It'll still be fine

[obsidian wigeon]

4090 probably does fine with it

that is if someone ever plans to pair it with that

kek

[mossy venture]

Is it multi rail?

[broken lake]

any idea how much I could get for a 1080 ti these days?

[mossy venture]

Don't you already have two?

[broken lake]

thinking more for selling one

[mossy venture]

Oh

Misread

[broken lake]

could've worded that differently

[mossy venture]

Nah I just misread it

I'm tired lol

[broken lake]

lol np

[mossy venture]

I'd say 300 or so, depending on where you sell

[obsidian wigeon]

250-300

[broken lake]

I have a friend interested in buying it and just trying to figure out how much I should do it for