building-and-recc-chat

[undone saddle]

Btw my gpu is 2x8 pins guess it cant beat 3x8 versions

[cyan ravine]

It likely won't no but I still think it's missing something

GT1 frequency is still fluctuating

Side panel of the case off might* fix that

But not by a lot

[undone saddle]

Someone said not enough power...first 2 tests in time spy series its not full gpu usage

[cyan ravine]

Oh wait

Is gsync on?

[undone saddle]

Off

[cyan ravine]

Hm not sure then

It's def weird that usage drops like that

[undone saddle]

U get 99% the entire run?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

When in doubt ddu

!ddu

[still roost]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[cyan ravine]

Try it then reinstall latest drivers

[undone saddle]

Wil do with next driver they release

[cyan ravine]

Kk

Oh wait

@undone saddle is the demo on?

[undone saddle]

No

[cyan ravine]

Does it run a demo before the graphics test 1 and 2

[undone saddle]

I dont think so

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it's on that's why I'm seeing the fluctuating

3 sections of the graph not 2

[jagged ember]

demo is good to have on

[cyan ravine]

When you go to run the test you can click on 'time spy' or the picture instead of 'run' and there's an option that says 'include demo'

[jagged ember]

warms up gpu a bit

[cyan ravine]

Turn the demo off

Lol this will be worth a fair few points

[undone saddle]

I might have been running it with demo just checked its on lol

[cyan ravine]

That explains it

[undone saddle]

Ok now started with 99% usage

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it warms the gpu up before the test lol

[undone saddle]

Unlike earlier

[cyan ravine]

I guess I was too tired last night to notice the demo was on

[undone saddle]

[cyan ravine]

That really explains a lot lol

[undone saddle]

Atleast explains the not fully utilizing gpu first few seconds

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[undone saddle]

Crashed 130.. 750 while in time spy

Well screw it enough ocing today

[frigid night]

is your cards bios set to oc mode?

[undone saddle]

[undone saddle]

Whats that exactly

[potent portal]

Typically that only affects the fan curve

[frigid night]

hm. I had to turn my tuf gpu to oc mode to get a higher oc

[cyan ravine]

Go back to 105 750

Likely the heatsoak stopped it from boosting higher before

From the demo running lol

[undone saddle]

U can turn gpu to oc in bios?

[undone saddle]

Yeah that would work for sure

[frigid night]

there is a switch on your gpu to the left of your pins

[undone saddle]

Oh yeah noticed that

[potent portal]

There's some exceptions depending on the model but the exceptions only give you like 30MHz over the base, it doesn't affect actual headroom which should be silicon based. Unless they were 2 different vbios versions.

[undone saddle]

Didnt touch it

[cyan ravine]

Changing vbios is just a fan curve and a slight clock speed change that you can still use afterburner to do

It won't do anything

[frigid night]

I see. Hm. The 2070S I had would not OC stable at any OC until I flipped the switch /shrug

[potent portal]

They probably had different versions on each bios

[cyan ravine]

On tuf fal'cie really has it dialed in it's a 30MHz change and a different stock fan profile lol

Like 1830 vs 1860

Iirc

[earnest olive]

more likely the "oc mode" bios has a higher PL

iirc my strix has 480W in "P mode" and 390W in "Q mode"

[potent portal]

That's another possibility but not common to my knowledge

[frigid night]

this is what I was thinking with the 2070s

[earnest olive]

well, my card is that way

i flashed it so now 480W is "Q mode" and 1000W is "P mode" lol

[potent portal]

Well I guess 480W would be quiet compared to 1000W

[cyan ravine]

Sips I think I figured out why that 3080Ti was scoring a bit low

I forgot about the demo before the run lol

Running on barely any sleep I got a project due today

[potent portal]

What's your GPU score now?

[cyan ravine]

I think he stopped

But that demo before the run is a solid bit of heatsoak

[frigid night]

I didn't know you could turn that off

[earnest olive]

you have to have the full version

[frigid night]

didn't stop me from getting 1st with 1650s and 12600k though 😛

[frigid night]

I haz

[earnest olive]

i wonder how fierce the competition is for i3-12100 + 3090

very common combination i'm sure

[cyan ravine]

Take to it with LN2

[drowsy zodiac]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TZ7n9r someone wanna tweak my parts see if they can make it cheaper lol

[frigid night]

I feel like that's prob about cheap as it's gonna be.. maybe different mobo

[drowsy zodiac]

lol that’s what i was thinking but i’m not to sure what mobo

and i don’t think i could downgrade the gpu to anything

that will still be decent

maybe ram ?

[cyan ravine]

Would go used 2060 if you're going 2060

[drowsy zodiac]

i cant find any unfortunately near me

[cyan ravine]

Also again, just wait two weeks lol

We made a solid list it'll be worth it

[drowsy zodiac]

could you find new ram?

[fossil cedar]

Well do you really need rgb ram? And I'm guessing you need wifi?

[drowsy zodiac]

i do need wifi yes i could get rid of the rgb ram

[cyan ravine]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/sn38TW/pny-xlr8-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-md16gk2d4320016axr

[drowsy zodiac]

so what’s the difference with ram anyway like obz prices are different but why wouldn’t i want the 16gb 3200 corsair ram over that one? like is there any differences?

[cyan ravine]

Mainly price but also corsair ram is dodgy especially on the basic kits

If you buy known good kits it's ok but the regular stuff they mix chips with so no complete guarantee xmp runs

[frigid night]

Corsair makes some good stuff.. and then they make some horrible stuff

[cyan ravine]

Moment

[frigid night]

like... Asus' TUF model 😄

[drowsy zodiac]

hm yeah i’ll stick to the same build i got and just slowly order in parts lol

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[drowsy zodiac]

seems what’s best honestly

[cyan ravine]

I feel you tho, i feel that 'build pc nao' energy lol

[drowsy zodiac]

i may need to find a new gpu though because i don’t wanna order off isanek there shipping is ridiculous

[drowsy zodiac]

what is build pc nao lol

i just wanna get all the parts and get to doing it honestly

i have a case and cpu cooler coming and i have the psu

i just need the rest lol

[cyan ravine]

Build pc now, energy?

[drowsy zodiac]

yes lol

literally

that’s how it is

[frigid night]

That is was got me

that's why I've ended up spending so much

[drowsy zodiac]

i just keep in my head to wait it out and find good deals lol

[cyan ravine]

Ah sadge the eagle is oos on memory express

Yes keep waiting

More good deals to come

[drowsy zodiac]

memory express shipping is stupid too

amazon and newegg have the best options

shipping wise

[cyan ravine]

I think the first thing you try and get is the gpu

That ram deal is good too

[drowsy zodiac]

that’s what i’m focused on

the gpu

[fossil cedar]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vLHKsL

[drowsy zodiac]

yeah that would work

i’m gonna keep waiting though see what gpu deals come up

is the gigabyte board better then the msi?

[fossil cedar]

Yup

[drowsy zodiac]

comes with wifi?

[cyan ravine]

AX in the name = wifi

Gigabyte naming scheme

[drowsy zodiac]

ohhh okok

[fossil cedar]

Yup

Well

[cyan ravine]

Scheme? Convention

[drowsy zodiac]

i never knew that

[fossil cedar]

Ax is a type of wifi

[cyan ravine]

Welcome I am 7am felix

[fossil cedar]

All good

[cyan ravine]

AX200

[fossil cedar]

Oui

[drowsy zodiac]

i need to find a new job mines stupid at this point i’m not even getting paid the correct amount lol

small local business 👍🏻

and they always make up excuses why they can’t give it and then will say i will get it the next payment

[cyan ravine]

Not correct, you mean it's a lot less than expected?

[drowsy zodiac]

no it’s incorrect

i’m supposed to get 650$ every two weeks

[cyan ravine]

Is that after taxes?

[drowsy zodiac]

they just gave me 323

and he’s

yes

not he’s lol

after taxes 650$

i got 323 this pay

[cyan ravine]

Idk how canadian law works but over here incorrect payment is incredibly illegal

[drowsy zodiac]

it is lol and i’ve told them but they don’t care

[cyan ravine]

Like, drop everything else you're working on and fix it immediately kind of bad

[drowsy zodiac]

so i think i’m going to just get a new job and report them

[cyan ravine]

How old are you again? If you don't mind me asking

[drowsy zodiac]

17

[grizzled quest]

I had this pc for two years and was wondering what I should upgrade about it?
My pc build parts:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600
Motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4
Memory: ADATA XPG Z1 16 GB (2 x 8 GB)
Storage: Silicon Power A55 512 GB SSD
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6
Case: Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart 500 W 80+

[fossil cedar]

Well what's your budget

[potent portal]

Can't go much higher on GPU without a CPU upgrade so if you've got the budget I'd do both of those

[fossil cedar]

And power supply

[frigid night]

I was gonna say something about psu

[potent portal]

Oh yeah definitely

[frigid night]

that's the explody one right

?

[potent portal]

Don't want to take the L with the TT W

Pretty sure that was the white label one so yes explodey

[cyan ravine]

little bit of a pop in it's step

[untold vessel]

What would the best AIO with a screen be?

[desert gulch]

Nucleus (if that ever came out, damn ek), or probs the ryujin if you needed the actual screen imo

The ryujin ii ofc

[vague oracle]

Sounds like lawsuit time

[drowsy zodiac]

ong lol

[vague oracle]

How much pay are you missing?

[drowsy zodiac]

supposed to get 650 every two weeks just got 320

[cyan ravine]

Idk if it ever did EDIT: it finally did I guess , but they refunded my preorder and gave me an ek elite 360 as well as an apology for the delay so I walked away pretty good from that

[fossil cedar]

Rip instead they selling gold wb's xD

[cyan ravine]

Oh it did come out

[fossil cedar]

It did?

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it's in stock at my local store

That'll be the best one

[fossil cedar]

Dam I should have pre-ordered it :(

[cyan ravine]

@untold vessel ek nucleus 360

It'll use the bones of the ek aio which is stonks

It's not insanely expensive either for an lcd aio

[analog pulsar]

Nah sips is doing a i3/3090 so I'm sure they can upgrade gpu hahah

[upbeat lake]

can we all agree, if the 2060 super is on the build list, and the budget is 1k, they probably got the budgeting right

[mossy venture]

The 12100 has very similar single core performance to the 12400

Not how that works

[potent portal]

Normally yes but the ryzen 1600 is comparable to the i5 6600

[analog pulsar]

Lol

[potent portal]

I bottlenecked a 2070 with a r7 2700, and that's only one tier above what they have

[mossy venture]

I bottlenecked a 1030 with a 3470. Totally irrelevant to this conversation, just wanted to feel cool

[upbeat forum]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374107?quicklink=true

Good ram for the price?

[potent portal]

Pretty good yeah

[analog pulsar]

haha

i had a i7 3770 with 3080

but i was 1440p

[potent portal]

I like g.skill over Team, and it's only a couple bucks more than comparable team memory

[analog pulsar]

@potent portal what are parked cpu cores

[potent portal]

I seem to recall you having issues with that too

[little osprey]

How do I underclock my voltage?

[analog pulsar]

maybe

[little osprey]

Also I guess the 5600 is single channel

[potent portal]

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=cpu+parked+cores

[analog pulsar]

let me refrase\

are parked cpu cores bad for performace

[potent portal]

No it just saves power

[analog pulsar]

well im plugged into battery

[potent portal]

It shouldn't be

That would be motherboard dependent but I don't think there's any AM4 boards that aren't dual channel

[potent portal]

If anything parking inactive cores is better for performance since they're not heating up other cores for no reason

[analog pulsar]

okay

[little osprey]

It only works single channel ramjso

How do I undervolt my CPU

So that it doesnt jump above my voltage

[upbeat forum]

I have team now and I haven't had any issues with them but when I was looking at timings the G-Skill was better and $5 less than Team

[little osprey]

What does it mean when there is a beta 2.90 and 2.91

For BIOS

The single digit dif

[upbeat forum]

usually some slight revision to something

[little osprey]

But what would require so bad to new version

[upbeat forum]

if it's beta that means both versions are still being tested

[potent portal]

Then one of 2 things has happened, one of the memory controllers is dead or you've overtightened your cooler

Oh or a pin is bent, 3 things

[analog pulsar]

https://i.imgur.com/9qGoVZJ.png @potent portal is this okay to buy also i heard ddr5 ram isnt single or dual

so you can have 1 stick on pc

[little osprey]

So I changed a few things in BIOS, mainly just updated the BIOS and then had to re set all my settings and now its saying set up pin again despite not letting me set it up on login for windows, any way can fix without reinstall windows?

[mossy venture]

You still want two sticks

While it's "technichally" dual channel, two sticks are still much better for performance

[analog pulsar]

hm

https://i.imgur.com/tRxsTTp.png

haha UK https://i.imgur.com/Aq6MOOM.png

also 64GB kit is UK as well haha

[upbeat forum]

Let's go

[analog pulsar]

how are zotac cards ???

[sand falcon]

Mid, buy if cheap

[frank stirrup]

what voltage is it jumping to?

[frank stirrup]

dual

[obsidian wigeon]

not really tbh, at least i have seen on laptops

but two stick is recommended ofc

but if you're forced with one stick from factory

it ain't a big loss

[frank stirrup]

kinda yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

https://youtu.be/-ghfKqKAeh8

doesn't seem too big to me

diff looks to be 15% at best

this is with gaming load that is

but i would say it's worth it to have two sticks

gotta wait until ddr5 prices becomes more reasonable tho

[upbeat forum]

I'd figure that'll be when DDR5 can solidly outperform decent DDR4

[frank stirrup]

I expect things to get better with zen 4 launch

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

for now ddr5 is still dummy expensive

too much for me to say get a ddr5 laptop and upgrade ram right away

it's good to know that running one stick isn't very bad

unlike older ddr standards

[analog pulsar]

im not soldered

[jagged ember]

I hope you arent

[obsidian wigeon]

doesn't change anything tho

[analog pulsar]

HAHA

[jagged ember]

not sure how you could solder yourself

[obsidian wigeon]

but it's good that it isn't

[analog pulsar]

hm

[sand falcon]

I soldered myself once

It wasn't pleasant

[upbeat forum]

I accidently touched a soldering gun once

does that count?

[analog pulsar]

https://i.imgur.com/aTrHkwB.png quad-channel brrrrrrrr

[jagged ember]

I think you have to attach yourself to something to count as soldering yourself

[subtle halo]

is going 3600 to 5700x worth it?

[desert gulch]

Depends on what you do

If you just game on more gpu dependent games at higher settings? Probably not

If you do workloads or play more CPU dependent games and aren't happy with current performance? Sure

[frank stirrup]

use soldering iron

[tough beacon]

Hey am I doing this right? I'm installing these antec fans by daisy chaining.

[frank stirrup]

pic too blurry

[tough beacon]

Lemme get a better pic

I plugged in my 3 fans into the splitters.

One had 4 and other 2 has 3 pins

[frank stirrup]

and the splitter is plugged into mobo?

[tough beacon]

Yes

[frank stirrup]

then u have done it right

[tough beacon]

Alright cool, it just looks a bit goofy thouh 😂

[frank stirrup]

cable manage it

[tough beacon]

Alright lemme try.

[frank stirrup]

send a pic of entire pc ill give tips

[vague oracle]

Done it way too many times, the feeling never gets old

[analog pulsar]

If 3070 is 575 or 666 would you spend like 200 more for 3080 12GB that's 881

[fossil cedar]

3080 12gbs are 800, and good models too, gaming z trio and aorus master atm

But it if you where going 3070 route I'd go rx 6700 for like 380$ instead

[weary galleon]

3070 and 3060ti prices are pretty bad rn

6600xt, 6700, and 3080 seem to be better

[upbeat forum]

price to performance the 3080 and 6800xt are actually pretty good right now

not saying they're cheap but it's much better than it's been

[fossil cedar]

3080 10gb hasn't been making much sense at around 730 where 6800xt is sitting at 670 and 6900xts dipping to 750 ish

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[hollow peak]

really? i can get an fe on best buy as of yesterday or i can get one used on r/hardwareswap for like 350 probablu

[weary galleon]

Huh. I hadn't really checked off of Newegg lol

[hollow peak]

yep 3060ti and 3070 fe are both on bestbuy rn

[fossil cedar]

3070 for 500 is mediocre tbh

Especially now

[undone saddle]

Not worth it

[hollow peak]

yeah thats a good point

[undone saddle]

Either wait 2 months

[fossil cedar]

Especially an FE

Cuz FE is only 1x8 pin iirc and no bios flashing cuz only 12 pin connector to card

[hollow peak]

im not buying anything now bc i have a 6700xt and ill wait a couple years or so

[earnest olive]

this doesn't matter for most people

most people aren't buying their card to squeeze out benchmark numbers

gotta remember people like us are in the extreme minority lol

[fossil cedar]

True

[fossil cedar]

But still aftermarket quiter 6750xts for under 500 or rx 6700 for like 370

Or 6700xts for like 400 ish

[undone saddle]

Enough rgb for this guy?

[earnest olive]

3070 at 500 isn't that bad of a price compared to 6700xt at 400

[earnest olive]

absolutely not

[undone saddle]

[earnest olive]

need some of those phanteks neons around the motherboard

huge dead zone

smh

[undone saddle]

Mobo reflecting the fans pretty cool tho

[fossil cedar]

FE fans are loud man

[undone saddle]

FE is ugly

[fossil cedar]

No rgb on the cpu wb smh

[earnest olive]

ugly is subjective

i don't really like the fe cards but a lot of people do

[fossil cedar]

I think they're fine

But my god their fans are loud as hell

[undone saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/huang-jensen-nvidia-ceo-gif-19751265

[frigid night]

shiny

[fossil cedar]

100% 2 fe fans are louder than than my old gigabyte gaming oc 3 smaller fans somehow same rpm

[undone saddle]

Blinding gpu

[upbeat forum]

I don't even hear my FE

[fossil cedar]

Oh i do

[strong raft]

which is that? Looks like a copy of a 9800 GTX or such.

[fossil cedar]

Rest of pc is p12s

[undone saddle]

I dont hear any of my fans

Quiet mode

[earnest olive]

my pc is loud but my air purifier is louder

[strong raft]

duct tape works good. oh wait, wrong fans

[fossil cedar]

Turn up to 70% fans and you will hear

[frigid night]

my AC drowns out any noise 😛

[undone saddle]

True

[fossil cedar]

100% is screeching

[undone saddle]

Never tried 100% on case fans

[frigid night]

IME the only time I needed 100% fans was when my room was 38c

[undone saddle]

Damn why room 38c

[upbeat forum]

I have my fan profile set to performance on my case so they're running at like 70% already

[earnest olive]

only time i use 100% fans is for benchmarks lol

[undone saddle]

Why would u do that

[frigid night]

AC decided it didn't like that is was 111f out

so it said nah not working today

[undone saddle]

Bench i do 70%

[frigid night]

more like a week

[undone saddle]

And temps 50 to 55c

[upbeat forum]

because Las Vegas is hot, yo

[undone saddle]

Damn

[undone saddle]

Not as hot as here

[earnest olive]

my gpu thermal throttles with 100% fans 😦

[undone saddle]

113f on a normal day

[undone saddle]

With aio?

[earnest olive]

air cooling + 600 watts

[undone saddle]

Holy 600

U oc to the roof lol

[earnest olive]

it has 1000w power limit but it can only handle 600 on air

sad

[frigid night]

that was weird. seems like my whole power went out for a split second

[undone saddle]

My 12900k under load was like 200w if i remember correct

[frigid night]

I keep meaning to get a UPS

totally just shut down my pc.

[upbeat forum]

I got 180w out of my 12600k

[earnest olive]

my cute little i3 peaks at 67 watts

[analog pulsar]

well friend wants to buy local so if gpu breaks or something they dont need to send it out country for support also friend needs nvidia fopr the processing power amd is slow they said

[undone saddle]

I should try to oc my cpu next week

With u guys help

[obsidian wigeon]

bro just google

[upbeat forum]

I OC good

[frigid night]

What UPS should I get for my pc? I have a 1kw psu

[undone saddle]

I trust group more

[analog pulsar]

nah while google when we got sips\

[fossil cedar]

Talking about the gpu fana

[obsidian wigeon]

buildzoid has good guides

[upbeat forum]

I just use Intel Extreme Tuner 🤣

click button, done

[fossil cedar]

Huh? What country they in and what work will they be doing

[obsidian wigeon]

it's not as simple as that even if you use xtu

[empty pollen]

well, the bigger the better

[obsidian wigeon]

it just provides more convenience

[empty pollen]

as much as you wallet allow 😄

[frigid night]

yeah, but idk brand/model and all taht

[empty pollen]

you got me there 😛

[undone saddle]

Gwt 5k ups like linus

[fossil cedar]

Image needing to worry about ups

[obsidian wigeon]

i have no ups

[frigid night]

this is the first time this has happened. now it's got me trippin lol

[obsidian wigeon]

my mining rig turns off often

[analog pulsar]

i would like to not disclose the country part but they working with AI stuff with nvidia cuda cores rendering much faster

[obsidian wigeon]

cause power dropouts happen often in a month here

[undone saddle]

Philippines?

[fossil cedar]

Country is needed to recommend and countries have millions of ppl in them it's not doxing

[obsidian wigeon]

i don't see any need for it

[analog pulsar]

is it okay if i dm

[obsidian wigeon]

no, thailand

[fossil cedar]

Sure

[undone saddle]

Oh

[frigid night]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-sus-the-rock-the-rock-meme-the-rock-fortnite-sussy-rock-gif-24909395

[undone saddle]

[empty pollen]

not like we hate countries in this discord

pretty unnecessary to hide the country

unless you feel that his/her country could be mocked... which is a no no on this discord anyway

[analog pulsar]

[frigid night]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-a-devil-lady-will-ferrell-saturday-night-live-devil-lady-monster-gif-17210008

[jagged ember]

lol if you tell someone your country they'll know exactly where you live

[austere condor]

i live in the USA

just doxxed myself

[jagged ember]

now I can raid your house for your cheap PC parts

thank you

[fossil cedar]

Now i know youre 1 in 330 million

[frigid night]

with some deductive reasoning.. you could easily find him

[jagged ember]

okay, he uses discord

[analog pulsar]

Lol

Oh 2 pcs for sale

[edgy jasper]

anyone mind helping me i have a question about a pc i bought on newegg

[fossil cedar]

What's your question

[empty pollen]

!ask

[still roost]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[glossy dragon]

didnt handle with care

although i did make progress on my build purchase wise.

so far ive got artic 120mm fans installed in my h510 flow from nzxt top and back exhaust and front intake asrock riptide X570S PG mobo with 32gb of trident z neo at 4200mhz

[fossil cedar]

Ooof

Rip glass

[glossy dragon]

next check ill be getting a x5900, nh-d15, 500gb + 1tb m.2s, and an 850w power supply

whats the best option for m.2 and power supply

[fossil cedar]

Your ram won't run stable at 4200mhz on amd unless you desync infinity cache but you're better off just doing 3600mhz/3800mhz synced

[fossil cedar]

Country?

[glossy dragon]

i wasnt planning on running it that high but it has the capability too

US

[fossil cedar]

Consider sending back the ram and just getting a 3600c16 kit then

[glossy dragon]

it did say designed for amd so im wondering why it wouldn't be stable

[fossil cedar]

I'd go with this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Gs7G3C/team-mp33-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpd002t0c101
And this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7pmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-1

[fossil cedar]

That's just a marketing badge

Ram is ram

Although yeah poor choice

Technically you can run 4200mhz but it will be way worse cuz it has to be unsynchronized infinity fabric

[glossy dragon]

i did a little reading and thought 4000 was the wall and 5000 was a gimmick from mobo manufacturers

also for m.2 i was looking at gen 4 is there any advantage in that

[fossil cedar]

4000 on amd is if you're really lucky, most have a 3800mhz max some lower

[fossil cedar]

Only in download speeds if you're connection is like very high speeds and if you're moving files from one place to another not really especially for the price atm

Team mp33 has better random iops than a lot of gen 4 ssds anyway

Random is real world performance opening things etc

[glossy dragon]

okay

whats the matter with sabrent? if any

[fossil cedar]

Sabrent is okay usually terrible price to performance

[glossy dragon]

samsung 980s?

additionally how much do i lose by going sata for deep storage because $/gb is so low for a 2.5" ssd

[fossil cedar]

Depends, the really cheap ssds are usually barely slower than a hard drive

Samsung 980 non pro is meh, pro is terrible value

If you want a gen 4 ssd, s70 blade would be your choice although for 60$ more on 2tb imo it's not worth

[analog pulsar]

https://i.imgur.com/ykWeVOM.png 6500xt sad

[desert gulch]

i really hope thats a b550 or x570

[cyan ravine]

Lookin like a b450 tomahawk

[civic tusk]

I think it's a b350 tomahawk actually

Nah its b450 actually looking at the vrm heatsinks. Just don't ever remember it being that grey in colour

[cyan ravine]

Neither but the heatsinks are a def match

Maybe it faded

Actually it'd be the camera flash probably

[runic spruce]

Aio prob cost near the same as the cpu xd

[analog pulsar]

why

[desert gulch]

6500xt on pcie gen 3 tanks on performance

[obsidian wigeon]

^

if it's on gen 3 then big oof

1650 perf

[broken lake]

Anyone know any good deals on 3080ti right about now?

[rich void]

Do you need a card right now?

[broken lake]

Not particularly

[rich void]

Cause if you can wait it's likely worth waiting for 40 series.
Otherwise this looks good to me: https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=12G-P5-3955-KR

Ok, in your case I'd wait

[mossy venture]

The 3080 12gb games within 3% of it

[rich void]

You can wait either for prices to drop further or to get a 40 series gpu

[mossy venture]

And the gaming z trio is $770

[rich void]

Is that an 80-12 or a 80 Ti?

The EVGA one I just linked is only $29 more

[mossy venture]

12

Wait

I meant 770

[rich void]

Yeah so I'd personally grab the evga for 899 and use an assoc. code

Oh, okay

[mossy venture]

Mb

Typo

[broken lake]

How do I tell if certain cards will work with my current build?

[mossy venture]

Ask us

[broken lake]

what parts might not be compatible with a 3080ti

[mossy venture]

A bad power supply

A too small case

[drowsy zodiac]

for a friend: he wants to build a pc his budget is pretty low and he wants to know 1660 or 6500xt he’s getting the i3 12100

[mossy venture]

1660

Still beats 6500xt on pcie 4.0

Extra 2gb vram helps it in a lot of games too

[drowsy zodiac]

i feel bad for him so i might help him get the 1660 super even though i probably should focus on my own build lol

[mossy venture]

What's your current build

[broken lake]

2 of those graphics cards

[mossy venture]

What country is he in

[drowsy zodiac]

same as me

canada

[mossy venture]

What power supply

[drowsy zodiac]

he’s with me rn lol

[mossy venture]

What's rhe budget for the build?

[broken lake]

how do I check my power supply?

[drowsy zodiac]

900

[mossy venture]

That's plenty for more rhan a 1660

One minute, I'll make a list

[mossy venture]

Physically

[drowsy zodiac]

but i think he’s going to take it slow and piece it together

but i’ll show him what you make!

[cyan ravine]

alienware?

[broken lake]

yea

[mossy venture]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NyV9wc is what I got, could buy a used 2060 or smthn similar for cheaper

[mossy venture]

Honestly I might just recommend replacing the whole build. 7980xe isn't exactly the best anymore, and you could part out that build and get a good bit of a new build paid for

1080 tis still go for a good bit

[broken lake]

that's the goal eventually

I wanna go piece by piece tho

[mossy venture]

I doubt the psu in that thing could run a 3080

And that case is not good

[cyan ravine]

hmmm

[mossy venture]

The 3080 will be gasping for air, as I'm sure your current parts are

[drowsy zodiac]

he asked if that case comes with fans

[mossy venture]

Only one

If he can find a diff case with fans, just make sure it has a mesh front

[broken lake]

this case sucks

[drowsy zodiac]

okok i got that

[mossy venture]

Can add p12s for like $10 a piece iirc

[cyan ravine]

@broken lake this?
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/a5ed13da-10a5-48a9-a13f-e910cc6673bc_1.1159aa3bc60d9d6d57aded64cdf445a4.jpeg?odnHeight=612&odnWidth=612&odnBg=FFFFFF

[mossy venture]

Forget Canadian pricing on them

[broken lake]

yea

[drowsy zodiac]

what does “iirc” mean

[mossy venture]

Holy crap that's ass

[broken lake]

if I remember correctly

[mossy venture]

If I remember correctly

[drowsy zodiac]

looks futuristic

[mossy venture]

Looks like an oven

[drowsy zodiac]

oh lol

that too

put my toast in there

[rich void]

That's going to be hard considering the PSU and motherboard will have to be replaced together most likely (Dell loves to use proprietary PSU connectors and motherboard form factors)

[mossy venture]

It would not surprise me at all if that cpu thermal throttles

Very much

That's not correct English

[drowsy zodiac]

cooking my eggs on the grill lol

[mossy venture]

But words

[cyan ravine]

hmmm

[mossy venture]

I'm too tired to form coherent sentences

Ima go back to anime

Yall got this

[broken lake]

let me check my psu real quick

[mossy venture]

I'd assume it's 650w max

[cyan ravine]

@broken lake take one of the 1080 ti's out

then sell the rest

[mossy venture]

While dell makes good psus, 650 is not enough for a 3080

[mossy venture]

Can keep storage

[cyan ravine]

then build a new system with the other 1080ti

sell that (sell it after using it even)

then build a whole new system

[mossy venture]

Why not just build the new system, and then replace the 1080 ti later on

[cyan ravine]

i would say salvage that 18 core cpu but x299 is expensive

[cyan ravine]

could

[broken lake]

it says max power 1500 w

[cyan ravine]

the psu, given how old the system is, probably would be some degree ok. the system itself tho, very blegh

sli is dead but that can be a good thing here if you sell the alienware with only 1 1080 ti in it

i feel like you'd make more back selling the pc with only 1 gpu not 2

[cyan ravine]

I have no idea what psu oem that'd be

[broken lake]

what's oem

[cyan ravine]

a company that actually makes the thing for the main brand to sell to a customer

[rich void]

Dell psus can be good quality. Biggest issue is proprietary connectors

[cyan ravine]

there's enough pcie connectors for a 2x8 pin 3080 ti but I wouldn't run it in that

[broken lake]

so is this psu good enough or nah?

[cyan ravine]

it's likely fine but you'll have other issues because of the case

[obsidian wigeon]

it can handle anything tbh

1500w unit

[cyan ravine]

ignoring the 7980xe sitting on what looks like, as dell is famous for, a 120 rad

[broken lake]

truuuuuu

[obsidian wigeon]

it's a delta too

so it's super good

[broken lake]

it do be having a 120 rad

[obsidian wigeon]

looks kinda like atx

[broken lake]

I am gonna get a new case first I think

[obsidian wigeon]

can probably transfer to new case

[cyan ravine]

I'm more worried about the case, the airflow, the layout

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

it'll need new case

[cyan ravine]

dell uses proprietary stuff so the board might not even have the right mounting holes for a standard case

[obsidian wigeon]

mhm

[cyan ravine]

i wouldn't be sure but I believe they've done that before

it just seems like, too much effort imo lol

[obsidian wigeon]

at that rate i would bring out a saw and get some wood

kek

[rich void]

Yeah, my point about the PSU is that it likely can't carry over to a new motherboard, and the motherboard quite likely can't carry over to a new case

[cyan ravine]

yeah I'm thinking the same thing

[broken lake]

that's what I am worried about

[rich void]

So personally I'd do it all at once and wait for 40 series and the next gen cpus

So right now you could save for that new build

[cyan ravine]

yea and sell what you've got now but sell the pc with only 1 1080 ti

[broken lake]

bad idea to build everything but leave my current gpus?

[obsidian wigeon]

this definitely isn't atx

it's a server psu

too big

[cyan ravine]

going back to the proprietary dell thing

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

it'll erm need so many things

[broken lake]

yea it's massive lol

[cyan ravine]

it's just too much work lmao

sell the current pc with 1 1080ti then use/sell the other 1080 ti

make a whole new pc in the process

[broken lake]

how much do you think I could get for everything I have now?

[cyan ravine]

it's so unique I'm not sure

[obsidian wigeon]

i would say 600 cause of hedt

maybe 500

cause it's got proprietary stuff

[cyan ravine]

2 years ago it was considered a fair price at 800

[obsidian wigeon]

x299 is cool

[cyan ravine]

500 sounds right imo

[obsidian wigeon]

but it's alienware

[cyan ravine]

the other 1080ti on it's own would be like, 300 maybe?

actually maybe less

[obsidian wigeon]

250 sounds doable

evga has 2060 for 209 rn

new too, not even b stock

tho that one's single fan

[cyan ravine]

if ur gonna buy a 2060 then using the 1080ti is fine

but using just one of them until a full pc build later would be good

those things are still relevant

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

[cyan ravine]

very relevant cards

[icy crater]

Hey y'all I'm still trying to diagnose and fix my pc. So what happened was when I try to turn it on the whole pc lights up for a second and then everything powers off. If I try to press the power button it's like it has no effect. This all started when a small outage happened at my house when I had my pc plugged in without a ups or surge protector. Oh also idk if this is relevant but also for my AC power supply cable I am using an amazon bought tripp lite one because I lost the original one that came with my power supply while moving.

The only way I eventually somehow turn it on is I turn off the power supply and hold the power button for like 10 seconds then turn back on the power supply and press the on button. (Sometimes works sometimes need to repeat.)

This issue has been happening so often now and I'm worried something in my pc might be damaged. What should I do?

[obsidian wigeon]

Looks like the cable you got is the problem

[icy crater]

I have considered but I was hoping to somehow find a way to test whether it was the issue or not.

[rich void]

The usual way to test is to swap parts with a known good part

So trying a different cable, trying a different PSU, etc

[icy crater]

I don't have another cable or PSU so I guess I really have to get another one.

Wait so for AC cables you can't just buy another one if you lose the one that came with your PS?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

it has to match specs of og one

otherwise issues will arise

[desert gulch]

I've never heard of that tbh

[icy crater]

Agh bestbuy employees told me any cable that looked like an AC cable would work.

[desert gulch]

It's just a little extension cord basically

Unless I'm missing something here

I doubt you could get the PC to turn on with that method if the cable was at fault

[obsidian wigeon]

it is a new cable

not extension

[desert gulch]

Like this?

[icy crater]

Yeah it's weird it turns on for like a sec and powers off but sometimes when I'm lucky my pc fully turns on.

Yeah.

[desert gulch]

I mean it's basically just an extension cord

Have you tried kinda flexing the cable when the PC won't turn on and see if that works?

Specifically up near the plug ends

[icy crater]

Flexing the cable?

[desert gulch]

Like kinda pushing on it a bit

[icy crater]

I don't have another cable tho.

[desert gulch]

Basically if one of the wires slipped out of it's terminal

Which I doubt with how you're able to get pc to turn on

But still

[icy crater]

I was considering taking it to a pc repair guy too.

It's like $30 fee to see it.

[unique haven]

I think I’m going to buy a new fan hub so that might make my fans work

[desert gulch]

It's most likely that PSU imo

Having issues where draining all power out of the capacitors then being able to turn back on is suspicious

[icy crater]

So it's probably the outage that fried the psu?

[desert gulch]

Mhmm

Could always paperclip test the PSU aswell

[icy crater]

Yeah it's actually so weird it's like a game of chance sometimes it works but sometimes it doesn't.

[desert gulch]

Not a 100% accurate test but a good place to start

[icy crater]

Like flipping a coin.

[desert gulch]

https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025085372-How-to-Test-a-power-supply-unit

[icy crater]

I'm very scared of shocking myself the paperclip won't hold electricity right?

[worn wave]

No

[icy crater]

Alright I'll try that first, then cord, then new power supply.

[worn wave]

Any voltages on the 24 pin ATX connector won't shock you anyway.

[icy crater]

Hopefully not. I'm like very prone to static electricity. During winter everytime I touch a doorknob I get shocked.

Anyways thank you guys for helping.

[desert gulch]

Unless you lick the paperclip while testing, you won't get shocked

Np

[broken lake]

ok so question

if I were to buy a whole pc build good enough for a 3080ti without actually buying a 3080ti

how much would I be looking at spending?

[desert gulch]

Idk, depends on what you plan with the PC and what country you live in

Also 3080ti typically bad value compared to 3080 10/12gb

[broken lake]

I won't be buying it until the 40 series comes out

and streaming

usa

and for the whole build including gpu maybe staying under 2k if possible

[broken lake]

is that a good budget or not?

too low too high?

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

it's plenty

[broken lake]

lol

yea

and a small form factor case preferably

I am ngl I do not know what mATX is

I am new to building pcs lol

can you explain that to me a little?

ah

https://lian-li.com/product/a4h2o/

I was kinda lookin at somethin like this

so itx I think it said

is mATX better or just different?

https://lian-li.com/product/o11-air-mini/

this one looks like it fits any mobo

would something like this be better than the first one I sent?

SFF?

sorry lol I am new to this stuff

oh yea that is pretty big still

do you have any recommendations for sff cases?

I am just going to college and want something that won't break or be too big while moving it back and forth

[eager rampart]

i wanna rank up

[obsidian wigeon]

chat more

but no spamming

[broken lake]

just simply join in on peoples convos in general

[eager rampart]

im tryin

to join more convos

[cyan ravine]

That latest build pic tho

[eager rampart]

u alr kno

[empty pollen]

you will eventually rank up, no need to rush things

geting more rank just gives you another color, nothing more

[fossil cedar]

Why's guy in build pics lying or cooking their 9900ks

[frank stirrup]

huh?

[fossil cedar]

#build-pics message

Has look

[frank stirrup]

i dont see it

oh link broke

[flint sapphire]

They are probably just cooking

[frank stirrup]

yeah

not gon be fun

build looks meh too

[uncut mango]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Harbor225/saved/#view=sc6dbv

can i get some opinions on this build? any better picks i should do, making a new build for gaming. dont wanna spend a whole lot more than i currently am

[fossil cedar]

Yeah you could definitely do a lot better for the price 1 sec

[fossil cedar]

This is a lot better and cheaper, or you can save more money and do just as good as your list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mzmZXy

[uncut mango]

thanks i really appreciate it

[fossil cedar]

Np

[frank stirrup]

;l

[analog pulsar]

You talking about ryzen 5900x I think it was and 2080 ti person

Bc I don't see pic anymore

[analog pulsar]

Ah 9900ks

Yea I saw that build

Does 9900ks get hot

[fossil cedar]

15$ cooler on 600$ cpu

Yes very much

[analog pulsar]

I mean

[cyan ravine]

Ignoring the Tier E psu in there

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i just saw that

Really not sure of there's actually just a 9400f in there and they lying or just hate their cpu tho

[cyan ravine]

I mean the jumble of parts makes me believe 9400f more too but here we are

Lol

[frigid night]

It really looks like it was pieced together with a pc junkyard as the main supplier.

A little bit of this. A little bit of that.

[analog pulsar]

I had a N1 run a 3600 and 5700xt

[cyan ravine]

Not saying it's impossible to run it's just

[frigid night]

That doesn't mean it wasn't ok lol

[analog pulsar]

No it wasn't my computer started to turn itself off while gaming

Power spikes go brrrrrrrr

But like mining and benchmarking was fine tho

[frigid night]

I had my power go out for a few seconds today. I thought my PSU took a crap on me.

[cyan ravine]

But back on that build, it's discussions like these that make me think that these hyper 212's save computers

Like

The cpu can't turbo high with it yeah?

[frigid night]

Hyper 212?

[analog pulsar]

https://cleantechnica.com/2022/08/02/putting-the-ecoflow-delta-pro-to-a-hard-test/

This is nice

[cyan ravine]

So therefore almost no risk

[analog pulsar]

Yea so it's safe

[cyan ravine]

Hyper 212 the piece that keeps the danger at bay

Lmfao

[frank stirrup]

I had the power go out for 2 hours earlier today

[unborn mesa]

Who wants to see a keyboard full of switches with pen springs

[runic spruce]

Does is sound like blue switches lol

[unborn mesa]

No clue

Ordered parts

Just need a keyboard to do it

Not tryna take apart my main keeb

[analog pulsar]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/wd-black-sn850x-pcie-40-ps5-ssd-hits-retail-4tb-for-dollar820

[lethal tapir]

Built my first PC this weekend thanks to NewEgg

Thankie

[obsidian wigeon]

Grats

[broken lake]

Anyone have any recommendations for good sff cases?

[mossy venture]

P200a is also decent

[fossil cedar]

Ssupd meshilicious

[earnest olive]

in gaming it probably can

but in a load like p95 a properly cooled 9900KS will do like 300 watts

and the hyper 212 will not like that

[mossy venture]

makes sense

[fossil cedar]

Pain

[obsidian wigeon]

bruh

[fossil cedar]

Ppl of reddit are dumb

[obsidian wigeon]

they always are

"corsair makes good psus" or smth

buying ak600 for 5800x3d tho

pain

[mossy venture]

not even 600

400

[obsidian wigeon]

ak400

💀

[fossil cedar]

Ak400 is too expensive tbh

[obsidian wigeon]

imagine paying a lot for cpu

only to cheap out so hard on cooling

and cheap out on psu

this is too stupid

i hate it

[mossy venture]

i made a new reddit acc to use hws again

im regretting it

[earnest olive]

lol my account history is like 100% hws now

[broken lake]

What’s hws?

Ah

[earnest olive]

only one thing here isn't hws

someone was asking why his 12600K was throttling with stock cooler

lol

[fossil cedar]

12600k doesn't come with stock cooler tho

So they paid for one 💀

[earnest olive]

I assumed they upgraded from 12100

[fossil cedar]

Ah right but still

Yikes

[broken lake]

Can someone explain to me the downsides to an itx motherboard?

[earnest olive]

less expansion

higher price

looks silly if you don't put it in an itx case

[broken lake]

What exactly does less expansion mean? Like less USB ports and stuff like that?

[earnest olive]

less pcie

usually less m.2

[fossil cedar]

Less sata sometimes too

[earnest olive]

less ram slots (although if you do ram oc this is actually a good thing)

[broken lake]

So assuming I only use 1 m.2 and 1 gpu is there anything I should be worried about?

[earnest olive]

not really, itx boards are viable for a reason

just have to know your use case

are you putting it in an itx case?

cause if not then you should just buy matx

[broken lake]

I am trying to make a small portable build for going back and forth to college

Also yea I’m looking at the lian li a4h20

[earnest olive]

then sounds like you have the use case to go itx board

go for it

[broken lake]

How much more do you think I would be spending on an itx build compared to a normal atx build?

The only different thing is the mobo right?

[fossil cedar]

It depends on the target perf/budget although not much more mostly coming from the sff psu

[earnest olive]

sfx psu, itx cooler, itx mobo, itx case are the main differences

[broken lake]

I think under 2k is my rough budget

Not exactly set in stone

[earnest olive]

you also have to worry about gpu dimensions

some sff enthusiasts are willing to pay top dollar for blower 3090s and stuff

[broken lake]

This case says it fits a 240 aio and a triple slot gpu

Aren’t those just normal parts?

[earnest olive]

some gpus are more than triple slot now

also, what's the max gpu length?

[broken lake]

322 mm

[earnest olive]

decent, some gpus will exceed that though

just need to pay attention to it

[broken lake]

Also is sfx or sfx L psus

Are those different?

[fossil cedar]

Personally for 2k I'd do something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vvgfxs

Only thing to note is that board only has gen 3 pcie slot iirc

[sand falcon]

It's an itx, I wouldn't be surprised

[earnest olive]

interesting review

smart way for them to get rid of that inventory i guess

pcie 3.0 isn't a big problem

and they don't hide it anyways

[broken lake]

Ok so assuming I don’t buy a gpu right now would the rest of that build work with a 1080ti until I get a card at a later date?

[dusky hearth]

good morning u s a

i got a feeling that it's gonna be a wonderful day

the sun in the sky has a smile on his face

[broken lake]

Sun in the sky

[dusky hearth]

and he's shining a salute to the american race

[broken lake]

You typed too fast smh

[dusky hearth]

oh boy it's swell to say

lmao

good morning u s a

[broken lake]

Would this work with a 1080 ti until I get a new gpu at a later date?

[fossil cedar]

Yes ofc

[broken lake]

Ok cool

[fossil cedar]

Not common, the non lite version was released and it was giving whea errors at gen 4 for some reason sometimes

[broken lake]

Ok so assuming I wanna start by purchasing as little as possible what should I buy first with already having all this stuff

Obviously I would need the case, the mobo, and the psu

What else would I definitely need to get in order for this to work for now

Could I re use the ram and the cpu for now?

[potent portal]

You can run it without the case

[fossil cedar]

How about you put a list of what you have now

But buying an old itx mobo is gonna basically be impossible for a decent price

[broken lake]

Right here

So of those parts what would work with what you sent?

[fossil cedar]

Well assuming you want to move to the itx form factor rn you can carry over the gpu, ram, well half of it and ssd

[broken lake]

Is this ram good or is it still worth buying new stuff later?

[dusky hearth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/iiiiiiitttttttttttt/comments/wjb2xj/a_friend_who_can_fix_one_is_worth_24/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[fossil cedar]

It doesn't say what speed it is, I'm gonna guess it's kinda slow tho

But it can do for now

[broken lake]

Ok so I think I’ll probably be purchasing a new pc in the next couple days

Or at least most of one lol

[frigid night]

When you say most of one.. How long will it be before you buy the rest of it?

[broken lake]

Probably wait until 40 series cards come out and then 30 series cards drop prices

[frigid night]

So the part you would be waiting for is just the GPU?

[broken lake]

The only thing I would need besides that is new ram which I would probably buy in the next week or two

[frigid night]

What I'm getting at is, if you are going to have to wait on getting the rest of your PC, you may as well wait until you can get all of your PC because by then prices on those parts may fall even further, or better sales on better parts.

[broken lake]

Well I’m going to college in 2 weeks and don’t wanna bring my current pc with me because it weighs 60 pounds and is massive and awkward

[vague oracle]

…how does your PC weigh 60lbs

[broken lake]

Wanna see it?

[frigid night]

Good luck on even getting all yours parts before you leave for college unless you pay the premium for overnight shipping from each vendor.

[vague oracle]

Of course it’s an Alienware

[broken lake]

Yea

I got it for 200 bucks tho

So I can’t really complain

[olive cypress]

Remember a person finding one with 3*980tis

For 200 bucks

But it was water damaged

[analog pulsar]

Alienware best

[broken lake]

This one has 2 1080ti lol not damaged at all

[fossil cedar]

They already have a 1080 ti which will work just fine

[vague oracle]

Maybe I’ll find one with 2 3090

[broken lake]

That’s the dream

[fossil cedar]

Do you really want a dell 3090

[broken lake]

a 3090 is a 3090 lol

[vague oracle]

Ehhh not always

[broken lake]

it would still sell for more than 200 tho lol

[vague oracle]

Could have a 3090 that acts like a 3060

[analog pulsar]

Gamer nexus said 3090 good

Just there case not bx it suffocated it

https://youtu.be/_8k5PCmFm7c

[frigid night]

I see. I was just making sure he knew that waiting until the last possible minute to order parts was better than holding onto parts.

in regards to building a full pc

[fossil cedar]

Ah yeah but they'll have a working pc

They already got an ssd gpu and ram they can use so that cuts it just down to psu case mobo cpu cooler

[desert gulch]

Not good just "better than dell"

[frigid night]

don't yell at me!

😛

[broken lake]

I think this is all the right stuff that was on pc parts picker

[fossil cedar]

Wrong motherboard

That's the ddr5 version

[broken lake]

that's why I asked lol

[fossil cedar]

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Z690I-AORUS-LITE-Motherboard/dp/B0B29JCSGN

That one

[broken lake]

just to make sure I had everything right

why is the ddr4 more expensive than the ddr5 lol

[fossil cedar]

Also wrong psu

[broken lake]

yea those were the 2 things that pc part picker didn't add to the cart

[fossil cedar]

The psu aint on Amazon 1 sec

For Amazon you're over paying cuz only white version

Either go for different seller
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q36qqs/cooler-master-v-sfx-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-mpy-8501-sfhagv-us
Or
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vJPQzy/cooler-master-v-sfx-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-mpy-8501-sfhagv-wu

[broken lake]

is there one that is similar to this one that I could get on amazon?

[fossil cedar]

The white one

You can get lower wattages

But if you wanna go 4070 or up you'll want an 850w

[broken lake]

ok

[desert gulch]

if looking to go 4070 or something, may as well just wait till they release then buy after that

[fossil cedar]

They have 1080 ti now and wanna go sfx for college so not really

[desert gulch]

ah ok then

[broken lake]

Ok this is probably a really stupid question and the answer is probably no but could I sell this old Alienware case for anything?

Is that the same as the one above?

Can you send me the link to that one?