building-and-recc-chat

[real nimbus]

480w

i believe

@earnest olive

[earnest olive]

ah

same as my oced power limit without xoc bios

what model is that?

[real nimbus]

ftw3

[earnest olive]

yeah makes sense that you're getting a score like that without oc

premium model

I was using 3090ti fe stock scores

[real nimbus]

ahh

[obtuse relic]

/prompt i3 liquid cool pc

[modest bone]

Hey im having trouble with a motherboard im trying to find one that fits with a "Intel Core i7 9th Gen - Core i7-9700F Coffee Lake 8-Core 3.0 GHz." I'm trying to have it put with a 3060 if that makes a difference? BTW this is suppose to be a gaming computer

[cyan ravine]

Have you already bought the 9700f and for how much

[frigid night]

and is it within the return period? 😛

[modest bone]

I havent order it yet but im trying for a motherboard $100 or less its budget.

[frigid night]

how much is the cpu?

there is likely something better for the same price

and only have to spend a tad more on a mobo

for overall better performance.

[modest bone]

the cpu costs $234.47

[cyan ravine]

Meh

[frigid night]

USD?

[modest bone]

indeed USD

[cyan ravine]

Can you return it?

[frigid night]

he hasn't bought it yet

[cyan ravine]

Oh

Then don't

12400f beats it in every way

Price too

[frigid night]

he doesn't want to spend more than $100 on a mobo.

[cyan ravine]

Yeah but the 12400f is like 175 or 150

[frigid night]

but if he saves money on the cpu, then he can put that towards a mobo

[cyan ravine]

Yea exactly

And then there's something a lot better

[frigid night]

so essentially he has a budget of $340

for cpu/mobo combo

[modest bone]

about that yeah

[cyan ravine]

This should be nice for anything
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HVtHW4

Could even fit a cooler in with that budget lol

[frigid night]

bam look at that. even save $35 with a cooler added on at that

[modest bone]

can i ask what is the difference between an i5 and an i7?

[cyan ravine]

Don't look at it as i5 and i7

Look at it as 12th gen vs 9th gen

[modest bone]

because rn i have an i5

oh ok thanks

[cyan ravine]

I5's of this year are much better than i7's of a few years ago

[frigid night]

Felix, Do you got a recommendation for a little bit better board or cooler that you can squeeze the last bit of his budget in?

[modest bone]

i have a 7th gen i5

[cyan ravine]

Uhh maybe

One sec

[frigid night]

the 12th gen i5 is gonna rock your world.

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FxgBrD

I wouldn't go higher than this cos of shipping

[frigid night]

ah, I was assuming his budget was without shipping cost.

but good on ya

[cyan ravine]

Ye, I also really wouldn't do more than the msi one tbh

[frigid night]

I'm on my first 3 day weekend in a very long time so my brain says "I aint thinkin for no reason"

[cyan ravine]

12400f doesn't need much

OMG MY LAPTOP

[frigid night]

true.

[cyan ravine]

It's bios updating

[frigid night]

uh.

[cyan ravine]

[frigid night]

like self updating?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[frigid night]

uh

[cyan ravine]

[frigid night]

Why would it do that?

[cyan ravine]

I was updating windows

I restart and well bios update

[frigid night]

and it forced a bios update?

sketchyyyyy

[cyan ravine]

Skeriiiii

I'm not opposed to an update but also that was unsolicited

[modest bone]

ok so this is what i have so far but there is better deal on newegg that it isnt showing that im getting https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

im also taking some parts from my current PC

[frigid night]

I see nothing on this list

[cyan ravine]

It's a promo code, you gotta put the code in to make it work

Oh wait

[frigid night]

you didn't post full link

[drowsy zodiac]

i can see it

[modest bone]

do you need an account

[cyan ravine]

No

[frigid night]

there should be some numbers/letters after list/

[cyan ravine]

There's a link on the webpage

[modest bone]

how might i get thoughs letter or numbers?

[drowsy zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jpR9fP

that’s his build

[modest bone]

got it https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bXw88r

[drowsy zodiac]

apparently not

[obsidian wigeon]

you don't copy from your browser

it's list link

[frigid night]

the link he sent shows you whatever you were looking at last I think

[obsidian wigeon]

that build is meh

[drowsy zodiac]

i never looked at that

[obsidian wigeon]

psu is overkill

[frigid night]

odd. showed up with nothing for me.

[obsidian wigeon]

and gpu can be cheaper if you go with 6600xt

[frigid night]

I think he already had some of the stuff

[modest bone]

im not sure i understand

[obsidian wigeon]

it's too expensive for the build

[frigid night]

Do you have any of these parts?

[obsidian wigeon]

no need to get a power supply with that high wattage

[modest bone]

i do not the one in there

[frigid night]

what parts do you have?

[modest bone]

im new to this pc building thing so thanks

im trying to make it as cheap as possible

[frigid night]

you've come to the right place then

[modest bone]

i just graduated so my parent were going to get me a gift and they said get what ever you want if its under 1k from my understanding

what ever they dont get ill be paying

[obsidian wigeon]

650w is plenty for 3060

i would get something like evga g5 or something

[modest bone]

do you have a link for it

what about this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/34bcgb

[cyan ravine]

Do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QKrtLs

Ah dammit wait the psu was the wrong one

NO ONE SAY ANYTHING

So embarrassing

Fixed it

[modest bone]

just one thing. im trying to get a NVidia

[cyan ravine]

Do that one

[cyan ravine]

Why tho. 6700XT stomps on a 3060 in gaming by a mile

It's an eagle too, 3 fan cooler. Very quiet card

[frigid night]

I love when my GPU sounds like it's about to take off to london in a rush

[modest bone]

ive have a really hard time with AMD

[frigid night]

understandable

[modest bone]

and all the games that support NVidia

[cyan ravine]

You're gonna give up a lot of performance going with a 3060

[potent portal]

There's tons of games sponsored by AMD that run better on their GPUs

[cyan ravine]

This will be slightly slower but nvidia
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G96yH2

[potent portal]

Assassin's Creed and Forza are the first to come to mind, I think rdr2 also

[modest bone]

most of the games that i play currently support NVidia

[cyan ravine]

@frigid night it's going to vbios update my lappy

[frigid night]

omg. What is your laptop?

WHY?

[cyan ravine]

Tuf gaming a15 6800h 3060 140w

It's brand new

But also why not already updated now it's brand new

[modest bone]

I mean if you think that the AMD eagle one stomps on the 3060 then that might be it

[potent portal]

Because it probably rolled off the line 6 months ago

[cyan ravine]

It will

[modest bone]

alright then ill go for that one

[cyan ravine]

My eagle 6600 competes with 3060's

6700XT will stomp it

[modest bone]

also i have a one tb ssd but if there is a way to squish in another 1tb that would do perfectly

[cyan ravine]

Sure

[modest bone]

another thing is while im playing a game can i stream it all at the same time?

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KkN26r

[potent portal]

Yeah, AMD's encoder isn't quite as strong as Nvidia but it still works perfectly fine for streaming

[modest bone]

my pc isnt great but it can hand streaming and playing Apex legends so i think it should be fine but just incase

[modest bone]

Thanks for the head up

[modest bone]

so i have 16 GB of memory already

[cyan ravine]

Ah shoot I forgot, streaming you want 32gb

[little osprey]

At least

[cyan ravine]

Yeah you could stick the other 2 sticks in there. Mixing isn't great but it'll run

[modest bone]

ok thanks

[cyan ravine]

Gimme a sec I try to fit 32 in tho

[modest bone]

ok thank you so much

[little osprey]

I am not a fan of Cougar and their cases, but other than that I like that setup, nice

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qLZGhk

@modest bone

Ignore the compatibility issue it's a false positive

[desert gulch]

its basically like a 1% chance type of thing

almost certainly wont happen to you... if by some insane odds it does, dont buy a lottery ticket. lol

[cyan ravine]

Like they sell you a super super old 12400f which is basically guaranteed not to happen cos newegg regularly does sales of this cpu

[desert gulch]

youd need a specific 12400f AND a super old motherboard

[modest bone]

is there any way to make it any cheaper Sorry if im asking for a lot

also this is the case i was thinking of idk if it will be compatible https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811853102?Item=N82E16811853102

[desert gulch]

isnt c0 still somewhat easy to get?

thought it was, esp with 12400f

[cyan ravine]

That would be surprising to me but maybe they don't rotate the stock properly?

This newegg's listing

[desert gulch]

what about it?

[cyan ravine]

Not a great case. You want one with a mesh front

[modest bone]

what do you mean by "mesh"?

[cyan ravine]

How much cheaper do you need it to be?

Mesh like this on the front

It means the fans can actually pull air so the inside of the pc gets good airflow

[modest bone]

ik its kind of a lot of money but... 900?

[cyan ravine]

Ok can do

[modest bone]

i see now thanks

[cyan ravine]

Did you need wifi?

[modest bone]

no i have ethernet

[cyan ravine]

Ok good start then

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V7trqm

I tried exploring a few options but 6700XT doesn't really seem feasible at 900usd

[obsidian wigeon]

for the cpu

[cyan ravine]

I wouldn't do 12100f for 6700xt

[obsidian wigeon]

you can even go with b660m-g

to save even more money tbh

[cyan ravine]

I did think about that but still too high

[frigid night]

I thought even a 12100 could handle a 3080?

[obsidian wigeon]

only at higher res

like 1440p and above

12100f will have some problems with 6600xt and at 1080p

[cyan ravine]

Ye

And I'm guessing this will be a 1080p build anyway

@modest bone can you stretch to 950? Also what monitor do you have/want to get?

[frigid night]

I do not think I could ever go back to 1080p

[cyan ravine]

I did, on my laptop

[frigid night]

not willingly anyways

[obsidian wigeon]

I don't mind 1080p on laptop

It's already so dense on 13-17 inches

[frigid night]

my 27" monitor that once looked soooo big, now looks small. My 32" that looked even bigger.. now looks small lol

[cyan ravine]

Everything looks small compared to 43"

[frigid night]

I'm falling into the trap of getting bigger screens lol

[modest bone]

i have a ViewSonic Vx2768-PC-mhd

[upbeat forum]

I'm still happy with 27"

If anything I want higher pixel density

[cyan ravine]

Planning on upgrading monitor soon to 1440p?

[modest bone]

wasnt planning on it but maybe

[cyan ravine]

Ok can you stretch to 950 on the budget?

If not, I have to make sacrifices to the build

[modest bone]

yeah i could but is the ASRock radeon rx 6600 XT better or the same as a 3060?

[cyan ravine]

It's a little better in games

If you oc it, decently better

[modest bone]

alright bet

[cyan ravine]

But it's a 1080p card imo, so don't change monitor if you go with that one

If you can stretch to 950, 6700XT eagle comes back

And 1440p monitor would be wise

[modest bone]

sure yeah

[bitter mason]

running 5333c20-30-30-50 on 2x8gb DJR Kingston Fury Renegades (XMP 5000c19-28-28-48). The problem is I need crazy high System Agent & IO2 voltage to run it. It's definitely not a daily overclock.

I do but still not up & running cuz I'm working on a stupid final that's due at 4pm tomorrow

[modest bone]

how would i tell if i have a 1440p monitor just for future reference

[modest bone]

good luck

[bitter mason]

if you're looking for some 5000 DDR4, offer this dude like $70. I got same kit from same seller on ebay for $65 & a friend of mine got it for $75 https://www.ebay.com/p/15048485293?iid=304556679485 I konw it seems counterintuitive since they're asking $165 ($132 deal now apparently?) but they took it before

[bitter mason]

thank you

[modest bone]

no problem

[cyan ravine]

I looked urs up it's 1080p

Also my b, it's 965 to fit a 6700xt

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QJhGhk

Note this monitor, if you can consider the monitor too then definitely do this

[modest bone]

that alright

can you take the monitor out so i can see the original price thanks

[cyan ravine]

965.91

[modest bone]

i was asking so i could show the link to my father

[cyan ravine]

Oh i c

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9QmQKp

[modest bone]

Thank you! So very much!

i do have one question is the issues or incompatibilities fine?

[cyan ravine]

^

[modest bone]

Thanks

so how does the purchasing work do you buy them all at once and pcpartpicker builds them then sends them to you. Also do you need to build it yourself?

[cyan ravine]

You buy them from all the places it lists the cheapest prices from

Then you build it

[frigid night]

pcpartpicker shows you the best vendor to go through for cheapest price. Each part listed as amazon you can buy in 1 order. Same with the other vendors. Your list looks like 3 different vendors so you could get it in 3 different orders. You'll have to build yourself, but we can help with that once you get all your parts.

[cyan ravine]

It's much better value btw to build yourself than to buy pre-built

[modest bone]

Thank you guy I couldn't do this on my own. Literally

[upbeat forum]

Building is easy too. Take your time with it and watch some vids on YouTube to get more comfortable with it

[analog pulsar]

Proceeds to spill soda on the build 💀

[brittle tinsel]

been about 2 years since I wired up a pc from scratch and I am walking some over seas friends through it over the phone.
they have plugged in the 8 pin cpu cable, the 24 pin mobo cable, the pcie to the gpu and sata to all the drives. am I missing anything here?

[upbeat forum]

the front IO to the mobo

[brittle tinsel]

the IO?

[upbeat forum]

the usb and power switch to the case

[brittle tinsel]

all the mobo cables are in, the PSU is what they needed help with

[upbeat forum]

ok, they should be good

[brittle tinsel]

my bad, not a good choice of words

I know with mine, I had to use either a molex or sata power for the fan hub but they dont have a hub.

[upbeat forum]

I was about to ask about the fans

that's hard to work on without know what type of fans/connectors they have

[brittle tinsel]

they said the fans are daisy chained into the mobo

[brittle tinsel]

its ok to use 2 seperate pcie cables for a 1080ti right?>

or does it have to be the 2 linked on 1 pcie cable

[cyan ravine]

Better that it's two

[brittle tinsel]

maybe not in this case, Im not seeing an additional 12v rail

this is the psu
https://www.antec.com/documents/product/EA750G_PRO_Manual_EN_20171025.pdf

[brittle tinsel]

@frigid night sorry for the ping, figured I would let you know he received the new psu and everything works fine, guess the psu really was just bad. once again, thank you sooo sooo much for all the help. glad they are able to grind tarkov with me again. first raid back and he wipes a 3 man before we get to him. mans vibing.

[lilac ember]

I have a question ram with DDR5 on CORSAIR ram
corsair icue software

[forest briar]

https://tenor.com/view/well-waiting-caddyshack-gif-5385414

[cyan ravine]

[frigid night]

I am glad that fixed the issue without having to spend any more money on other parts! Awesome job man. You were the biggest help in him getting it up and running because you sought us out and relayed all the info to help him. Give yourself a giant pat on the back!

[dense zephyr]

Can someone help me my fans that come with the case aren’t working and idk how to do them I’ve looked up YouTube videos but none of them help. All of the wires are plugged in except a in vdg and a sata power cable can some one help.

[desert gulch]

Probs plugged into a hub and the SATA power cable powers it

[frigid night]

what is vdq? I haven't heard that one for fans before

[echo goblet]

It says the MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard supports the Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor with BIOS version 7D43v11. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.

incompatibility issue?

[jagged ember]

nothing to be worried about

b660 motherboards all come with bios that supports the 12th gen

unless it's like pretty old stock

[echo goblet]

ok cool thanks

[bitter mason]

eh Houston

we have a problem

I don't think this is gonna fit

[fossil cedar]

You should be able to get adapters if no fit

[bitter mason]

https://www.amazon.com/SYBECHATF-Sleeved-Extension-Connector-Adapter/dp/B0B68KW3X2/ref=rvi_sccl_2/144-9454463-0175005?

might do these

clip is up top on kingpin

so they'd bend inwards

then I guess I'd run them up top or something not sure

[frigid night]

there is an A style and B style?

on those cables you linked.

so you could get the ones that have the clip on the other side

[bitter mason]

I didn't even notice that's what that meant haha

[frigid night]

nub ❤️

[bitter mason]

I don't liek those preinstalled combs tho

[frigid night]

they look removable and adjustable.

[bitter mason]

damn I can find 90 degree attachment for 24 pin easy

but 4+4 CPU like doesn't exist

[frigid night]

so.. find an 8pin one?

[bitter mason]

they're all for GPUs that I've seen so far

[frigid night]

uhm.. the one you linked says it has 2 90 degree 8pin eps?..

[bitter mason]

my bad I mean just the adapter

not the whole cable extension

[frigid night]

oh

what do you need the adapter for?

[bitter mason]

way cheaper than getting extensions

[obsidian wigeon]

for mobo

[bitter mason]

yes

[frigid night]

well I know for mobo. loll

[bitter mason]

too tight

[frigid night]

I was meaning why he needed adapters when the cables were already 90 degree

but I get it now

he wants to JUST get the adapters

[bitter mason]

no the radiator is loose there

it'll be pressing really hard when it's reattached

[obsidian wigeon]

it can't fit with the case

so he needs the connector to point up

like normal mobos does

[bitter mason]

lol yes pay extra to get back to square 1. heck

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

such is the cost of being different

[bitter mason]

damn I think maybe I could connect the CPU tho

there's more space

I could get away with just doing the 24-pin 90ed

hmm

I'm just gonna get the 24pinb 90 & see what happens

no way I'm dropping like $85 on this

[mossy venture]

I could get a 3070 fe for msrp right now

No point anymore tho

[fossil cedar]

Bb drop?

[mossy venture]

Yeah

No wait list anymore

Just pay

If this were like 5 months ago I'd get it

[summer tusk]

I built my computer and have Windows 10 installed, but still need a key. Where is the best place to get one?

[summer tusk]

Alright. Thanks. I’m using an unactivated version which I don’t really mind. Wallpaper Engine makes it pretty unnecessary, so I’m not in any rush

[frigid night]

yes.. yes there are.

I love you rommy

[forest briar]

Rommy committed scrum

[little osprey]

Help

My PC boots to life then a little after shuts off and restarts

[bitter mason]

recheck connections

24-pin & CPU 4+4 connections good?

are you using GPU?

[little osprey]

Yes

[drowsy zodiac]

your ram is pushed in tight and good?

[bitter mason]

slots A2/B2?

GPU in all the way with all power connections?

[little osprey]

Yes

Just reconnected them to ensure

Any reason power to the USBs be cut off?

[bitter mason]

do any of the LEDs on the board lit up?

[drowsy zodiac]

quick question so my case comes with a fan and rgb hub could i connect the argb part of my cpu cooler to the hub and then plug the cpu fan part to the cpu fan header?

[little osprey]

Yes

All of them

But GPU fan doesnt turn on

🤔

[drowsy zodiac]

that’s normal i’m pretty sure

don’t quote that lol

[bitter mason]

ya they usually don't turn on until it's hot enough

[drowsy zodiac]

that’s what i thought

[bitter mason]

does it try to POST at all or just instant off?

when it doubt, reseat CPU

[little osprey]

Yes

[bitter mason]

you could try clear CMOS & stuff like that

[little osprey]

It posts for time to boot up but nothing shows up

On screen

How to clear CMOS again?

[bitter mason]

there should be a header

that you short with something metal

[little osprey]

Which one?

[bitter mason]

which motherboard?

[little osprey]

No

Header

[bitter mason]

I can't tell you for sure without knowing which motherboard tbh

[little osprey]

Check this out on @Newegg: ASRock B450M/AC AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b450m-ac/p/N82E16813157880?Item=N82E16813157880&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-157-880-_-08052022

Take out cmos while its off, yes?

[bitter mason]

you don't need to pull the battery but you can if you'd prefer

[little osprey]

Uhhh

While its powered or no?

[bitter mason]

off

power off for sure

hold the power button for like 20 seconds to discharge capacitors

you sure the front panel connections are correct? that could prevent it from booting

[little osprey]

I think it reset?

Which panel?

[bitter mason]

the case connections

[little osprey]

I dont have all the case connections just power button

All I needed before

[bitter mason]

& you're sure they're in the right places I guess

[little osprey]

Yes

Top right pins

I havent touched PC since lost cpu

[topaz kestrel]

Lost cpu!

?*

[little osprey]

It broke

[topaz kestrel]

Did you reinstall windows after putting the new cpu in?

[frigid night]

that was weird. Muffin.. Your name was gone and it only showed the date/time you sent your message lol

[topaz kestrel]

Yeah I added a nickname so people don’t get confused

@frigid night see I can remove it

[frigid night]

ah nice

[topaz kestrel]

@little osprey

[little osprey]

No

Trying to

[topaz kestrel]

Remove all your storage drives and try and reboot into bios

[little osprey]

Ok

[drowsy zodiac]

.

[topaz kestrel]

Yeah

[little osprey]

Still wont open up logo

[topaz kestrel]

As long as it’s the same pin puts it shouldn’t explode

[topaz kestrel]

Did you clear bios like there other person said?

[little osprey]

Yes

[topaz kestrel]

Did you short the cmos pins? Because all I saw was you said you took the battery out

[little osprey]

I was asking if take battery out

I didnt tho

I shorted pins

[topaz kestrel]

https://youtu.be/fGpf_hfOKgI

Also may I ask what cpu is going in that motherboard?

And also have you tried booting with only 1 stick of ram in 1 slot at a time just to rule out dead dimm slots

[little osprey]

I just realized

My screwdriver is magnetic

That bad?

[topaz kestrel]

Shouldn’t be anything wrong with it, mind answering my 2 questions?

[little osprey]

5600

Ok

[cyan ravine]

Did you update the bios before putting the cpu in

[topaz kestrel]

I assume not since they said there cpu died

And I’m pretty sure their board doesn’t have qflash or whatever it’s called

[little osprey]

Was a dead DIBM

DIMM

[topaz kestrel]

Your pc booted swapping out the ram sticks?

[little osprey]

Removing 1

Yes

[topaz kestrel]

That doesn’t 100% mean it’s dead, remove all the others and put in the one that you believe to be broken, if it boots it isn’t, if it doesn’t it is

You could also try reseating your cpu since not all memory slots will work if it’s incorrectly seated

[little osprey]

Yeah its a dead stick

Wait hold on

Didnt seatbelt it

Nvm not dead stick

So my b2 is busted?

A1&2 wor b1&2 doesnt work

Where is platform key at in BIOS?

Trying to make w11 compatable

O

[modest bone]

I have one question with this new PC build that im getting (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9QmQKp) do i have the ability to put in another ssd and a hard drive with the current ssd?

[frigid night]

so it didn't work in A2 and B2?

like both stick in with 1 stick in each of those?

[little osprey]

No

It didnt

Both #1&2 of B dont work

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[potent portal]

It's possibly a dead memory channel but reseat the CPU and try not to overtighten the cooler when you put it back on

[near tangle]

Built my first pc! (13 years old) I watched YouTube tutorials before building but I didn’t use and while building. Cable management isn’t the best but is good for now.

I know it’s a single stick of ram

[mossy venture]

That looks like a sick build, great job!

Just to check, front fans are intake, other three are exhaust?

[little osprey]

My PC keeps shutting down after like 30m

Of being on

[forest briar]

What are you doing when it does?

Gaming? General use?

[little osprey]

Game

[forest briar]

Probably overheating.

[mossy venture]

Or psu

[forest briar]

Download hwinfo64

Run it and select option to run a log

[mossy venture]

That, and what psu do you have

[forest briar]

Next time it shuts down you’ll have a lot more valuable info.

[mossy venture]

As well as cpu and gpu

[little osprey]

I mean

The CPU fan didnt come with much thermal paste

[mossy venture]

What cpu and gpu do you have

And what power supply

[little osprey]

Just a circle around it

5600 just bought

And 700w

[mossy venture]

What 700w

[little osprey]

Corsair

[mossy venture]

Model name

[little osprey]

Uhhhh

[mossy venture]

Rm, hx, axi, cxf, cxm, cx, cv

[little osprey]

Thermaltake my b

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/6339087.p?skuId=6339087

[mossy venture]

The link isn't working, is it Thermaltake smart?

If so, there's your issue

[little osprey]

Yes

Why?

[mossy venture]

That psu is a literal bomb

Like

Catch fire

[forest briar]

Yeah no kidding. It isn’t a good psu

[little osprey]

Cap?

[forest briar]

You can use real worlds

Words

[mossy venture]

Don't turn your pc back on, order a new one. The gt 650 is $60 right now

[forest briar]

It’s a bad psu is what it comes down to

[mossy venture]

I would not risk turning the pc back on, let alone gaming on yhe pc

[little osprey]

Ive had it for a few months working

[mossy venture]

I had the same psu

Same issue

Please trust us

[little osprey]

Like a actual bomb?

🤔

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/49VG3C/evga-supernova-gt-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-gt-0650-y1

[little osprey]

Theres not a slight chance it'll be fine?

[forest briar]

It can go up in flames

Or damage your PC

[mossy venture]

Yes, the smart is a literal bomb

[forest briar]

Just buy a new pc and don’t risk it

Psu

Not pc lol

[little osprey]

I dont have the $

I just spent all my $ buying a new cpu

Cause old one broke

😔

Why would they still sell it?

😔

[mossy venture]

Yes, it is a literal bomb

Because they like making money and dgaf what happens to the buyers

[little osprey]

Should be illegal

[frigid night]

Either way.. figure out how to get a new PSU. That one is a hazard waiting to happen. You might think it's fine because it's been working fine.. and it will be fine.. until it isn't.. and you could very well lose everything you own.

[potent portal]

Saw G5 650 for $50 earlier

Ah it's $60 now too

[mossy venture]

Isn't g5 a bit worse?

[little osprey]

Its definately the CPU rn

Its running at nearly 100C

Anything I can substitute for now?

[potent portal]

Yeesh, check your cooler mount

[little osprey]

Its the paste

[potent portal]

Toothpaste can work for a couple days

[little osprey]

Legit?

[potent portal]

Yeah

It dries out fast so don't use it more than that

https://youtu.be/v08FWIvrYGU

[frigid night]

just replace the toothpaste every day 😄

[potent portal]

That would work but besides being a pain, it's not ideal paste

[ornate marsh]

yuck

[drowsy zodiac]

got me worried about my psu i bought lol

talking about hers

what if mine blows up lol or some like that or catches fire

[frigid night]

what PSU you got?

[drowsy zodiac]

oh lord moment of truth lol

corsair CX650F

[potent portal]

That's a B tier, it's fine for anything except the highest end stuff

[drowsy zodiac]

what’s that mean after the b tier part

[potent portal]

3070 ti/6750 XT or lower you're good

[drowsy zodiac]

yeah i’m going to get the 2060 or 6600

so it’s not going to catch fire or anything lol

[potent portal]

No issues then

[drowsy zodiac]

perfect

[potent portal]

B tier don't explode when you overload them anyway, they safely shut off

[drowsy zodiac]

good to know

it’s not garbage

do i have to connect the rgb on the psu or no because honestly you’re not even going to be able to see it lol

[frigid night]

some cases let you see it, but if you can't then no reason to I guess

[drowsy zodiac]

yeah lol fr you won’t be able to see it

i just got this one because it was a good deal

normally 130$ i got it 92$ after tax

(cad)

[frigid night]

nice. I got my A-tier PSU on sale for $120. it was marked down from $200

[desert gulch]

mustve been a 1000w or something xD

[frigid night]

yeah lol

[empty pollen]

got my 850 g6 at 95

😄

was short of 40 bucks for the 1000w

😦

[little osprey]

I double checked and the coolers bottom two screws werent fully in or in at all cause was being difficult to get in now its fine

[small tinsel]

So a kid I know is wanting to get into streaming and wants to get his first PC. Roughly 1k budget for the PC itself (can go a few hundred over)
Any recommendations?

[obsidian wigeon]

Is he in the US?

[small tinsel]

@obsidian wigeon yesss

[obsidian wigeon]

Okie

Imma get a list up

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BkvYRv

If you use obs with a radeon plugin, this will work

[obsidian wigeon]

Damn

[cyan ravine]

Otherwise you should look at a 3060

[obsidian wigeon]

Faster than me smh

[cyan ravine]

:p

[obsidian wigeon]

But I think mobo is overkill

Can definitely save money going cheaper

[cyan ravine]

It is yeah but I picked a decent one with wifi

Can change if not needed, will drop below 1K

[obsidian wigeon]

b660m-a is cheaper rn

it's the wifi variant

[cyan ravine]

Didn't see it in the list

Ds3h ax is the only other one I can see

Nvm it's there

Ok that's what 3 hours sleep does

[small tinsel]

😂

So I am not an AMD graphic card person. Is the RX6600 just as good at the 3060?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Well, not quite

[potent portal]

6600 is almost as good as the 3060 but much cheaper

[cyan ravine]

But if you pick the right one and oc? Definitely

[potent portal]

6600 XT is between the 3060 and 3060 ti

[cyan ravine]

Thing is tho you save 100-ish going amd

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b6Mrqm

[small tinsel]

Kid is young so won't be overclocking xD

[obsidian wigeon]

With less ram I can get 3060ti lol

[cyan ravine]

Nah you need 32gb for streaming

[obsidian wigeon]

32 gigs isn't an absolute need for that

But if budget can go over a bit

Sure, only for 40 more you can get 32

[small tinsel]

Yeah like I said I can go over the budget a bit.

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XKHsVw

[cyan ravine]

Wifi?

[obsidian wigeon]

Ye

I picked wifi

[small tinsel]

Yeah will probably need wifi. Not sure if he has ethernet

[cyan ravine]

@small tinsel Monitor?

[obsidian wigeon]

Well, I tend to skip on monitor and count it as extra cost

[cyan ravine]

Dammit too slow lol

[small tinsel]

Yeah na just need PC itself. We have everything else ordered :D

[cyan ravine]

Foxy's would be better then

[obsidian wigeon]

That's good then

[cyan ravine]

You get nvenc and 3060ti is overkill for a kid

[obsidian wigeon]

Well

Streaming kek

[small tinsel]

^

[cyan ravine]

He can also use rt for minecraft if that's his thing

[obsidian wigeon]

Ventus 2X is a lil cheaper btw

But idk if it's enough for 3060ti

[small tinsel]

Streaming and video editing. Apparently he is really into that creative side to

[obsidian wigeon]

So I went with 3X

[cyan ravine]

🇧 entus

[obsidian wigeon]

3X is at least fine

[small tinsel]

So where would the bottleneck be in this?

[obsidian wigeon]

None honestly

[cyan ravine]

Not there

Maybe monitor if anything

[obsidian wigeon]

The cpu maybe, if the editing program is cpu heavy

[cyan ravine]

3060ti is robust

[obsidian wigeon]

But that would just stretch the budget even more

Like around 100-200

[potent portal]

Gets a bit too warm for me at around 75C during time spy

[obsidian wigeon]

hm okay

[potent portal]

But technically fine

[obsidian wigeon]

3X it is

[small tinsel]

Ah okay. Perfect then. What's a site you recommend ordering from to build it? I am not local to him and his mom won't know how to build it.

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

[cyan ravine]

Build it then send it?

[obsidian wigeon]

Well this is a combination of every sites

Of cheapest deals

[cyan ravine]

Cheaper to build from scratch and draw best prices from everywhere

[small tinsel]

Hmm. I guess maybe a local service?

[obsidian wigeon]

Local service should be available anywhere

Like any good pc shop

[potent portal]

A local shop will probably do it, do not use best buy geek squad

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[small tinsel]

Okee. So order the parts and take them to a local service. Got it!

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

That's the best way

[small tinsel]

Yeah geek squad is bleh

[obsidian wigeon]

Ordering from one site doesn't give you good deals

and labor from those sites are ya know, kinda expensive

[small tinsel]

^

[obsidian wigeon]

It's just putting a pc together

Labor shouldn't be 100

[potent portal]

It probably will be though lol

[drowsy zodiac]

currently playing roblox

[small tinsel]

Granted. Took me like 5 hours to cable manage the back of my PC. So many rgb cables.

[drowsy zodiac]

just thought you guys should know

[obsidian wigeon]

I guess it's fair to some cases

If we take like min wage per hour and the building does take hours

[small tinsel]

Yeah for sure. That was just the cable management 🤣 doesn't include the building itself. Granted it was only my second build so they are probably faster

[obsidian wigeon]

mhm

[stoic yew]

Is the Rosewill SPECTRA C101 a good mATX case?

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

[modest bone]

Thank you sorry just saw it

[stoic yew]

Its not? How come?

It looks great to me.

[obsidian wigeon]

oh wait it has mesh

should be okay enough

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

price is way overpriced tho

[drowsy zodiac]

hey bestfriend @obsidian wigeon

[stoic yew]

98.98 seems pretty good to me.

[obsidian wigeon]

p360a is cheaper

and looks similar

[stoic yew]

P360A is a ATX case.

[drowsy zodiac]

i just paid 86 for my case

ATX

and i’m using a matx board

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

matx only, okay

[stoic yew]

Taxes and shipping be a pain. lol

[potent portal]

You can use matx in atx

[drowsy zodiac]

yeah mine after tax was like 94

[drowsy zodiac]

ik

[stoic yew]

True, but I wanna make a small Pc.

oh wait nvm. NewEgg wants to charge me 90 dollars for shipping. forget it.

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

it's actually not much bigger than the rosewill

the p360a

just like an inch bigger in every dimensions

[little osprey]

Which is better?

[obsidian wigeon]

don't get those

way too expensive

[little osprey]

Its my only locals

[obsidian wigeon]

hm okay

[little osprey]

I'll get dif later

[obsidian wigeon]

then the cheapest one

[little osprey]

Ok

The higher price is mostly cause bigger tube

I think

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[little osprey]

Are those thermal paste bad?

Im just trying to get good enough to play warzone on my 5600

[stoic yew]

[obsidian wigeon]

what cooler are you getting?

oof, rip taxes

but if you insist on that case, im not against it tbh

[stoic yew]

Its the shipping that kills it. I dunno why the heck newegg charges so much for shipping.

[obsidian wigeon]

fractal pop air mini is probably gonna end up costing the same

it's 79 with 15 shipping

[stoic yew]

129.99 here.

[obsidian wigeon]

jeez

yeah that's sad

[potent portal]

It's about a 4 degree difference between that and mx4 which shouldn't matter much on a low power CPU like the 5600

[obsidian wigeon]

^

But if you're getting a cooler with paste included or running stock

There's no need to get paste tbh

[cyan ravine]

MX-4, NT-H1, NT-H2 would be my suggestions over corsair tm

[frigid night]

I use MX-4. I swear by it.

[cyan ravine]

I've never used it myself but I would be insane not to recommend it when I know so many that do

[potent portal]

It's excellent for the price. You can usually find a 2g tube for $5-6 that should do a couple CPU and GPU applications. The best stuff is only about 2-3 degrees better and easily triple the price if not more.

[little osprey]

stock

[little osprey]

only have those 2 in nearby

[little osprey]

my stock came with like no thermal paste

it was significantly less than when I had a 3500x and got stock

[obsidian wigeon]

it's preapplied on the cooler

should be fine

[little osprey]

yes

it still reboots if I try warzone cause gets too hot

[obsidian wigeon]

hm okay

definitely use paste then

[frank stirrup]

Sounds like a stock cooler is eh issue more than a paste issue

Get a better cooler

Something like the gammax 400 v2 is cheap and a ton better than the stock cooler

[little osprey]

I used stock with the 3500x with no problems

[cyan ravine]

Would also try something like amazon to deliver to the door with the other options imo. Corsair paste is really meh EDIT: Not sure about xtm50 but TM30 I definitely remember is very mid

[frank stirrup]

Ok but ur obv having problems now?

[little osprey]

yea

[frank stirrup]

What cpu u got now?

[little osprey]

5600

[frank stirrup]

Yeah no get a better cooler

Like the gammax 400v2

Stock isnt great on zen3

[jagged ember]

lol yeah stock for 5600 is not enough tbh

iunno why they still classify it as "65W"

[potent portal]

Tbf it really is only using 65W

[drowsy zodiac]

odd odd question but my wifi has been running very slowly lately and we have a wifi 5 router is there a major difference with wifi 6? my provider has a new plan for 1gig download speed and a new wifi 6 router

maybe one of you guys would know lol

[earnest olive]

@frank stirrup did you see my windows install survived

[cyan ravine]

Yes. As someone who just changed recently, albeit my speeds aren't better, my coverage and connection have been infinitely better and more reliable, less dropouts and restarts

My speeds aren't better tho cos internet in my country is terrible

[frank stirrup]

Sheesh

[upbeat forum]

Does ram speed have any real meaningful impact on game performance? I'm going to be buying a kit for my son's build but I could also give him my current kit and I could upgrade to a 32GB kit

but would spending extra to get 4000 have any real impact if I'm using 3200 right now?

[potent portal]

For what processor?

[upbeat forum]

12600K

[potent portal]

Typically memory has the biggest impact of frame time stability and 1% lows

You might not get more average fps but it will feel much smoother

[cyan ravine]

Z690?

[potent portal]

The 12600k should do very well with a 3600 c16 kit, or 4000 c18 will probably run well

[frigid night]

@upbeat forum do you play ff14? I know random Q.

[frigid night]

That's because the Emu's won the war.

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/i-will-send-you-to-jesus-angry-angry-asian-gif-24474133

[upbeat forum]

that's all I needed to know

thanks, guys

[upbeat forum]

I have but not for some time

[cyan ravine]

@upbeat forum z690? If it's b660, keep to like, 3600 C18 kits or similar

[upbeat forum]

H670

[cyan ravine]

Oh wait no 12600K has unlocked SA

You'll be fine

Don't mind me

[frigid night]

Alright. I just went through a dungeon with someone named The Hollow. Was making sure it wasn't you :P

[cyan ravine]

I forgot it was a cpu feature not a board feature my bad

[upbeat forum]

I've used that name too

maybe someone stole my account

[frigid night]

Doubtful, but do you remember what world/data center you were on?

[upbeat forum]

Not at all

[frigid night]

:P

[upbeat forum]

it's been like 4 years

I love FF14 but it's hard finding time for it now

[frigid night]

Ah. I started playing again 4 months ago after 6 year break

[upbeat forum]

I think Heavensward had just launched last time I played

[mossy venture]

The funniest thing is this is 100% true. The Australians lost a war against angry murder birds

[frigid night]

That would have been lot longer than 6 years. 6 years is when stormblood launched.

[upbeat forum]

I don't remember. Don't mind me

I'm going senile

[cyan ravine]

[upbeat forum]

https://c.tenor.com/h9PU8C60PxoAAAAC/japan-suit.gif

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[icy crater]

Is building a small form factor pc hard?

[obsidian wigeon]

it is more difficult, yes

because of less space for your hands and tools

[near tangle]

Yes

[forest briar]

If you have small hands it’s not a worry

[frank stirrup]

there are better ways of putting this

like saying if you have small hands

[forest briar]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-future-drake-life-is-good-high-off-life-gif-18160700

[frigid night]

I mean. He is right. That was kinda derogatory the way you worded that.

[forest briar]

I didn’t mean it that way my b

[frigid night]

we still love you.

[forest briar]

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-sus-mad-sus-acting-sus-watching-gif-25962258

Not even a Tuesday

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-i-love-you-ily-love-wade-wilson-gif-11696862

[jagged ember]

200 dollar windows key pain

[fossil cedar]

I feel offended

[fossil cedar]

You have sn550 not blue sata bonk

[frank stirrup]

read whats written on the drive

n3rd

[fossil cedar]

250 of fans cough cough

[frank stirrup]

nvm

i read whats on the box

im

stupid

detechie me

[fossil cedar]

Wd blue not wd blue sata bonk

[frigid night]

oo who you editting?

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-250gb/p/N82E16820250090?Item=N82E16820250090&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-fxoGheaizncN7ZWghjpAsA

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-doge-gif-24837098

[frigid night]

Hi mom

[fossil cedar]

Untekie rawr

[frigid night]

Shh

[frigid night]

but not corsair fans

[fossil cedar]

I thought you where getting lian lis?

[frigid night]

I did

those aren't corsair

[fossil cedar]

It says or unifans

[frigid night]

HAHA

I didn't waste money on unifans

[fossil cedar]

Hmmm

[frigid night]

I got dem ST120s

Who would pay $30+ a fan?

not me

yet

[fossil cedar]

No bingo for me :(

[maiden crater]

I need help packing a pc guys 😭

What should I do 😭😭😭

Add more padding maybe?

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[maiden crater]

There’s to much space

[fossil cedar]

Um put motherboard box in there too?

[maiden crater]

And I can’t find a box smaller to were it fits all three boxes

Oh yeah that too

[earnest olive]

I was pinging the people that were in the conversation at the time

^

[fossil cedar]

:(

[earnest olive]

also why rawr not techie anymore

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/into-the-spiderverse-spider-man-sad-shower-crying-in-the-corner-gif-17438802

[fossil cedar]

^

I'm pato and i agree with this message @earnest olive

👉👈

😳

[earnest olive]

why tuesday

why not now

[fossil cedar]

Because gay tuesdays

[earnest olive]

I kiss now

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that's sus

[frigid night]

I shall see you ALL DAY on tuesday my love. All the kisses you could ever want.

[fossil cedar]

If you do on tuesdays is not sus

[earnest olive]

I'll be sus for pato

[fossil cedar]

[frigid night]

https://tenor.com/view/whoa-saturday-night-live-weekend-update-hey-now-hold-up-gif-25069049

[earnest olive]

rommy sus

I'm starting to want new mobo

cannot disable spread spectrum on pro z690-a :(

stinky 99.8mhz bclk

[frigid night]

shoulda went with tomahawk

Rommy is in a moood

[earnest olive]

but the price was too good

[frigid night]

Heh

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/flokibonk-bonking-cryptocurrency-bonk-gif-24188885

That type

[frigid night]

yeah this is a sus mod chat.

[obsidian wigeon]

admin mood

aka banning mood

sorry, mod mood

[frigid night]

@fossil cedar That's a cute little setup

[fossil cedar]

Ty :)

I want longer desk tbh

[olive cypress]

Smol

[obsidian wigeon]

oh

that's about as wide as my "desk"

[fossil cedar]

It looks smaller cuz ultrawide cam

But that's a 27" and 24" on it

[obsidian wigeon]

Then mine is a lot smaller

[fossil cedar]

Main isn't bang in the middle tho so i needa fix that it's just a pita

[obsidian wigeon]

I can only place one 19 inch monitor

[fossil cedar]

Mines like ~3 ft wide

What's wrong with it lol

[frigid night]

Let's see yours mom

[fossil cedar]

Sorry let me pull out my 2nd mouse and mousepad

[frigid night]

I feel attacked..

Yes, I use them both lol

noice noice

[fossil cedar]

Lol

Smh where 2nd mouse, pc and mic and 2rd vert monitor no symmetry 😤

[jagged ember]

wait are we doing setup pics

[fossil cedar]

Indood

[jagged ember]

well I'm not sharing mine since I'm outside

[mossy venture]

I'd share mine but my desk has a bunch of random crap on it

Including like 7 empty Pepsi cans

[fossil cedar]

Pepsi max >>>> coke

Nou

[frigid night]

Orange-Vanilla Coke is bae

[fossil cedar]

You're disgusting

[frigid night]

You love me

[fossil cedar]

Orange vanilla coke is actually the worst fizzy drink I've tried

[sand falcon]

Orange vanilla flavor is good, but putting it in motor oil ruins it

[mossy venture]

Spicy mountain dew exists

It's worse

[fossil cedar]

Maybe orange vanilla tastes better in NA but it's gross here

[fossil cedar]

Why

[mossy venture]

It doesnt

Because people are weird

[frigid night]

Flamin Hot MTN Dew is nasty AF

[sand falcon]

How do they make something with that much sugar spicy

[fossil cedar]

Magic

[obsidian wigeon]

by adding lots of capsaicin

[frigid night]

it's spicy on the throat. not taste buds

[sand falcon]

Ew

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-gun-fire-murica-flag-america-gif-12183553

[fossil cedar]

That's the worst kind

[frigid night]

I hate alchohol

please do

[fossil cedar]

Completely? Never had a good cocktail then 😛

[frigid night]

just not a fan of any alchohol. doesn't agree with my stomach

[fossil cedar]

Ah fair enough

Captain Morgan and cola

[frigid night]

I used to drink.. Black Kraken + Vanilla Coke all day everyday

sun up to sun down

[fossil cedar]

Oof

[frigid night]

hated my life for almost 2 months. Now I can't even stomach the thought of alchohol. That is why

[fossil cedar]

Ah that's fair

I can have 5 drinks and just feel a small bit tipsy

Actually not stonks

[frigid night]

I love Asians. They are to cute.

[fossil cedar]

Probably more to do with I'm 6'1 male and you're a 4'10? Female

[sand falcon]

Small people get tipsy fast

[fossil cedar]

Yeah height and weight difference probably a bigger factor lol

[jagged ember]

bmi

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that would apply to them lol

[fossil cedar]

Bmis a load of bull lol

Uwu

[frigid night]

@undone saddle Solid first build man. The Lian Li logo bein crooked is worthy. Might I ask why you ran the gpu cables up and attached them to the usb3 cable?

IMO would look much cleaner if you ran them down to the bottom of the right hand grommet

just looks really funky to me lol

[undone saddle]

Thanks man. had someone build it for me but yeah he shouldnt have tied them with the usb cable doesnt look great

[frigid night]

oh. How come you didn't build?

[undone saddle]

Ganna buy lian cables later they look much cleaner maybe when I change the gpu

[undone saddle]

Didnt wanna mess something up lol

[frigid night]

pfft

[undone saddle]

[frigid night]

shoulda done it yourself

[cyan ravine]

Oh a O11

Maybe try later with the side panel off if you do more runs

[twilit quarry]

hi guys so im building my new pc and my last question is if i need a splitter or something for the fans and stuff and if so where you would recommend getting one. this my build btw https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rPM4Zw

[cyan ravine]

Prolly not 500 points worthy but o11 is a looks case not a performance case

[undone saddle]

I tried 125 and 700 but not much increase in result