#building-and-recc-chat
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Yeah I’m on it
try searching "cpu fan"
yes
should be able to boot up now
install windows, grab hwinfo64, and watch your temps at idle
then run a load like prime95 and see if it gets too hot
if not, you should be good to go
Yeah everything is N/A for me
as long as your cpu isn't overheating right now it means your cooler is at least mostly working
So is that normal? The N/A on the fans
Yeah
looks like only one motherboard fan header is being used
and it's 2250 rpm
sounds like the pump
I plugged all my fans into the fan hub
so you've just plugged the aio pump into CPU OPT instead of CPU FAN or AIO PUMP
not a problem in itself
then yes
the motherboard has no idea what RPM if it's not controlling them
(please don't install icue if you can avoid it)
iDerp
Anywhere you can avoid iCue is seriously a good thing tbh

Ok
It's actually in this pic at the top lol
Should I change anything else in the bios before I boot
if you have to ask, no
Save and exit it is
now it should boot straight to your windows install usb
when your ram is advertised as 3600 18-22-22-42 1.35V
that's
MCLK*2 tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS VDIMM
tRCD is further split into tRCDRD and tRCDWR on AMD systems, but XMP will always set them the same
tRP = "DRAM RAS# PRE Time"
I was boutta say youre psychic or something
i'm just explaining how XMP works
Yeah thanks
I really want to learn more
Windows 10 pro?
I heard that’s the best choice
why not
That’s what I used in my last comp I thing
not much difference
not even sure what pro edition gives you besides access to gpedit
Do I hit the new button or next
next
What’s the new button?
Ok!
you won't benefit from splitting your drive
Under what circumstance do I hit the new button?
build chat bingo has been updated for 2022 by request
enjoy!
@potent portal @desert gulch @cyan ravine @runic spruce @obsidian wigeon knock yourselves out
ehh, if you wanted to install multiple operating systems on the same drive i suppose?
What idiot buys windows for 200 bucks
I have a wifi adapter connected but no network is showing up
No bingo : (
Anyone got a fix?
lol in general it's a good thing if your build doesn't get a bingo
unless it's the lawful good bingo
i did not get a bingo with my personal build
This is what I got, I used to run c die, oc to 3900 mhz cl 19 surprisedly
my last flip build only checks one box lol
mesh case
i got it in a trade, so i didn't get to pick the components
it had a super overkill air cooler but not an aio
32gb ram in an otherwise budget system that didn't need it
Actually I think I check the Corsair fans one
can't really call it a well priced gpu if i didn't buy the gpu
I think my cappelix aio was 190 or 180 I do t remember plus some Corsair fans for those lights
and the psu was overkill 850w plat
i was thinking about taking out the psu for my own build cause it's better than my own psu
but manufacture date 2016 changed my mind
I almost got a bingo, assuming you count my GPU as "well priced" since it was MSRP
show us your board
Can't edit, I'm on mobile
Well my gpu was technically under msrp, it was I had a 10% off coupon basically a no tax discount lol
Mobo is still down
Ratings don’t really matter pass gold iirc
i mean sure but it's still a better psu than mine
hx850 vs. xpg core reactor 850
higher efficiency curve
really matters when running a 3090 lol
Should I leave my front glass panel on?
In front of my 3 fans
Or take it off for better airflow
i mean you're basically guaranteed to get better performance with it off
Run 2 psu jk
the tradeoff is faster dust buildup, less protection for the fans
you can test it out with the glass panel on first
oh yeah i forgot also, glass panel off will be louder
That’s up to u if u care about it
Ahh ok
if it's not overheating with the glass panel on, you might as well leave it
Personally I sometimes run my pc with no class panel on the side, dropped my temps a little bit bc of my front rad
U should prob be fine tho

i run my case almost completely deconstructed
i don't care about dust or noise
just want maximum airflow
What case do u use
o11
Do u take off like all the glass
Figured it out on mobile
front glass is on, side glass is off
top and back panels are off
all dust filters are removed
front glass being on actually helps the airflow in this case
since it prevents the side intake air from just exiting the case through the front
How much does it help tho? Thought o11 fan config was pretty good
i run an aggressive ram overclock and my gpu is too big for my case
i can crash my pc by putting on the side glass panel
lol
Lol
B die?
The heat doesn’t matter
it does
Rev e can be set on fire and still work fine
tRFC is temp sensitive regardless of die
It does just not as much as b-die
with 290ns tRFC i consistently get errors from exceeding 52C
during winter i can run 280ns tRFC stable
Dang 290
laughs in 140ns
I run 580
the b-die is gonna be delidded already, so let's see what kind of temps i can get
580ns or 580T?
cause 580ns is a disaster lol
580 in the bios I meant for trfc
4k
if you're on rev. e, no it's not
Well I’m able to run 580 daily at 1.4v
Yea
tRFC doesn't scale with higher voltage
if anything, tRFC scales negatively with higher voltage
Both is good
due to being temp sensitive
Ok
U can test ns in aida right?
if you can daily 290ns stable on rev. e you're already in a good spot
Do you know where I could look at all the drivers I need to get?
DUUUUDDEE
I made a smiley
lmao

I remember seeing that thing a long time ago lol
please tell me they're unis and not corsair fans
Prob last yr
ImGine not running Corsair
Now p12's
With their light up lights
Makes a great lamp
smiley face probably cooler than a bingo
You just need network and chipset from the motherboard support page, and the GPU driver from Nvidia/AMD
however, i move in less than 2 months
and i've had builds take more than 2 months to sell
If you can get a next gen build done late September it'll sell quick I'm sure
not sure how much pc building i can do in my dorm
Pc is basically expensive Lego set
ive seen some lego sets more expensive than most pcs
Invest in an ac unit

ac isn't the problem
I only want intel
I'm riding that hype train til the wheels fall off
i never use ac at home unless it's >110 out lol
I downloaded the chipset drivers. Do I open the asus setup file or the chipset software?
Hype train dead
it's hard for me to get hyped over amd product
That’s a bit extreme
i got usb dropout 3 times today
Me with Zen 4 rn
Says who? 7600X engineering sample popped up and it looks niiiiice
maybe when amd proves they know how to drive usb ports i'll consider buying a new ryzen platform
Lol fair
Is better then that 13700 tho
Should i update bios on new build?
Is there a reason the chipset setup is 32 instead of 64?
Different tier, it's not comparable
all that performance doesn't matter to me if i'm getting pissed off in the middle of a competitive game because my audio fully dropped and i have to remove my hands from my keyboard/mouse to fix it
32 bit runs on 64 bit just fine
been thinking about swapping my 5800x for an i3 unironically
Oh, single core tho?
I mean I can see workings of a good Zen 4, but I've seen a lot less from AMD's camp and it's closer
grab i3-12100 + z690 and wait for 13700K lol
nice
I'm gonna go the 13th gen route too
The benchmarks leaked don't compare either
i guess asus bios is just running the cpu hot for some reason then
30 idle temp is good
run prime95 to test it out
Just watch intel drop a new chipset lol
They confirmed z690 works
They prob won’t do it tho
they will
but z690 is compatible
They are, Z790
@willow quest https://www.mersenne.org/ftp_root/gimps/p95v308b15.win64.zip use this to test your cooler mount
Should hopefully support faster memory
Ok I’ll do that after all my drivers are installed
no reason to run it for more than like 2 minutes
Anything else I should do as a new boot upper
New hynix + upgraded imc should make for interesting new gains
Should i update bios on new build? Z690
my 5800x hits full heat saturation in like 15 seconds lol
I give it 10 to saturate the liquid cooler personally
@willow quest monitor settings and gpu drivers
i'm planning to stick to ddr4 so don't care abut ddr5 gains for now
And maybe a little gpu oc and fancurve
Yea those are on my list!
Besides that your good
my demon 5800x doesn't even care if my aio has 2 fans or 3
performance is identical with 2 fans or 3 fans
tested this when one of my aio fans failed lol
seems like the bottleneck exists entirely at the cores or ihs
instantly shoots up to 87c and then climbs to 90c within 30 seconds
did a remount, same deal
My cpu tops out around 90c in cinebench r23, tho it’s only on core 4, it’s weird gets hotter by like 5-9c compared to the other ones
that's normal
Mine too but I watch where the clocks settle in, so that's why I go longer
The guy looks like Greg heffleys dad on crack
I’m at like 220w 1.35v 5ghz
On a 360 aio
I got the VGA drivers from my mobo website and it’s the adrenaline software. However it’s an older version compared to the driver from the Radeon website. Should I just run the asus setup one or get the one from the Radeon website?
10700K?
Yea
Keep the ones from the AMD site
Armory crate is good enough for drivers
On the mobo
you can fight my old flip build 10700K
didn't put that much effort into it
he didn't pay me for ram oc
only cpu oc
Doubt I could tbh, auto voltage sorta fried the bin
If you don't mind rootkits sure
Wait what?
It has rootkits
meme valid
Yea I ain’t beating that
During testing for our Intel Core i9-9900K review we found out that new ASUS Z390 motherboards automatically install software and drivers to your Windows 10 System, without the need for network access, and without any user knowledge or confirmation. This process happens in complete network-isolation...
here just have all my 10700K results lol
used a cheap coolermaster 360 aio
z490-a pro
some boring xmp ram
Is like a virus tho?
Like a bad one
I only do r23 lol
Did r20 like last ye
But I don’t remember the score
No, it'll just dig into your os and frequently remind you to install things.
Things you might not want like Norton
R9?
i7-11800H
Damm
Well I’ll prob upgrade on Christmas or something
thermal throttling to like 4.35 in r23 though
My gpu might be a tad bit bottlenecked from everything lol
Pcie 3 cpu and gaming monitor
Should I get the rog CPUz software
Are those all monitoring software?
Yea except msi
Asus setup
Speaking of, I'm glad next gen AMD will all have iGPU built in
I don’t have any SATA stuff so I don’t need to get the raid drive right?
Kinda meh imo
Will just raise prices
Unless they make an f model like intel
Better than Intel's and mostly just for troubleshooting
Correct, you don't need the raid driver usually anyway unless you're running drives in raid
Raid is where it takes multiple identical drives and puts them together into one
There's a very deep rabbit hole to fall into with that
Lol nvm
But not anything 99% of people will ever touch
Raid is useless tho for the average pc gamer
Basically a stat boost depending on which raid lol
I wouldn't say that, it has its purpose
So on afterburner, can I just turn my fan speeds up all the way? I did that in my last pc
Raid 1 if you're working with sensitive stuff, that'll save you from catastrophe
Yea
That'll wear out your fans faster
Set a fan curve
If your temps when gaming are fine, just leave it at default tbh
I mean raid 0 is double or nothing
Yes and that's what my game drive is on 
All fun n games till save files get lost
I personally set fans to 25% when idle, 50% for light gaming, 75% for full load gaming and 100% if its getting to hot for my liking.
Nah it's all backed up to my home server
I do a step curve though. Not linear.
Idk why but the fe fan curve on my 3090 on default is so strange ig, my bad didn’t mean to reply with this
Runs 30 till gifs around 60-70
Then actually starts ramping up
But the cooler is so big it doesn’t really matter ig
I set a curve tho and dropped like 10c
You're using precision x1 to control the RGB on that right
Lots of people don't know that you can
On the 3090 fe?
Yes
Nice
I use icue
time to have some fun
beating the crap out of my friend's laptop before I give it back to her
What’s the best fan curve?
Oh did they finally get a plugin for the FE cards? Took long enough
Varies. You gotta find whats best for your card and you
Now that’s what true friends do
Depends on your card
Gotta burn in that paste
I just ran y-cruncher + mining together for a week straight
I think it's been burned in
How come?
forcing so much cold air into this laptop rn
I found and set up a nice used laptop deal for her for no profit
least I can do is mine a few bucks and then hwbot sub it before I send it off
So you just gonna tear it up before giving it to her? Lol
I mean it's just 3dmark lol I was joking about beating the crap out of it
Lol ok
it's getting an insane amount of cold air forced into it right now
laptop fans forced to max speed and a max speed desk fan behind it in front of a door open to outside
if anything it's probably quite happy right now
yeah just got a way better score than last time I ran it before repasting and without forcing cold air in
It might just take off with all that airflow
old best:
6217 graphics 5798 cpu
just got 6408 graphics 7372 cpu
quite a difference
Is that the laptop that beat my i7?
That is significant indeed
Should I install windows on my old laptop and bench it? Almost no one has a turion ii p520 since you couldn't get it factory installed
lol go for it, get some easy 
The issue is the GPU doesn't like windows, it's always blue screening lol
Radeon hd 4250 be like
🟦
So I’m tryna change my lights on the fans
Is the icue software really that bad
From what I heard here
All depends on who you ask. There is a whole server dedicated to loving icue
Can you not use openrgb?
Yea icue is good imo
It may not be compatible with icue.
What fan hub do you have?
Icue moment
LOL
Might be a bug
Sometimes things just decide not to show up
Hm should show up then since its corsair. That's a reason people don't like icue.
It will prob try to detect it in a bit
Download a older version of icue
Might fix it
Is it plugged into a rgb header on the mobo?
U plugged in the usb cable on the fan hub to the mobo eight
right
Open and close icue if it doesn’t work install an older version of icue
The hub has usb?
im able to control the lights on my fan
fans
all of them
but they just dont show up on the software
Send a picture
of the software or comp?
Software
I haven't seen one with usb before. Just rgb cables that connect to header
Need to restart to get some things to show up in icue when it doesn't
Like restart the whole pc
When I started up the software it gave me a message telling me to update the commander pro
and I did
Everything looks fine
but it still doesnt show up on the software
What’s the issue again?
And that’s where u control the fans
You cpu is at 72c?
dog i really dont think so
With like no load?
Yea icue readouts can be a little off
A little?
Package is often high on ryzen when you are doing things
@willow quest set pump to extreme and fans on balance
wait why is it at 70
It doesn't mean core is high
it was 30 before I got the software
Package temp
Package records highest core temp
Check HWiNFO
It’s normal
ahh ok
the fans are all balanced
It's reporting package lol
@willow quest btw have the aio fans on the water coolant temp
but I dont see an option to change the pump
Thats crazy. At least on intel my package is never much higher than my cores.
oh
Yea cos intel. My intel chips are like that too
I was going to the lighting options LOL
can I change the color to black?
is that a thing
I don’t think so
Black rgb is off
A light that is black doesn’t make sense lol
how bout white
Yea
U can mess around with it n stuff and stack lighting effects on top of each other
I like to stack marquee on top of two solid light leds
Venom Poison Spiderman
I’d rock veanage ram but idc bout rgb that much lol
Not bad
im hyped for the spiderman pc ports
cant wait to play it on this build
the problem is the pc port caps at 60
@willow quest making another profile and make everything a bright red marquee except the Corsair logo on the pump make that white
It’s gonna look nice
With Spider-Man
That’s what I’m currently doing for my rgb
Which one is that?
miles morales
Ah
U can use msi lighting control for the gpu rgb
does that come with afterburner?
No
Sorta but with all the fans red
I can show u my build a bit later
With the lights n stuff
Yea
This is more of what I meant
The newer icue versions got rid of the bright red color preset iirc, it should still be in the color spectrum tho
U should use rain on the ram looks nice
U do u tho lol
I know you didn't quite ask a question, but this still applies.
!ask
Okay fair
Well anyway, so yk how stock cpu coolers have pre applied thermal paste, I bought all my stuff about a month and a half ago, my cpu came first, is it possible for thermal paste to essentially dry up?
Like my motherboard comes today and my case comes on thursday/friday
Yes it could dry up.. if left exposed to air for an extended period of time. However I doubt the paste is dried up. Those parts sit on shelves for months before they even get to you. They don't open the package and apply the paste and reseal the package just before they send it to you.
You're golden my man.
guys im building a pc and i want to sell it. how much i should sell it for?
socket 1155
i7 2700k
8 gb ram
gtx 750 1 gb
1 tb ssd
500W psu
Models of RAM/GPU/SSD/PSU/MOBO might help someone determine value.
Excuse me
OH nvm
I thought that said 12700k
And was very offended that someone bought a 12700k to put 8gb ram and a 750 with it
I'd guess maybe 175 at most?
Not really sure
Wait is my build like goodI payed 750~ and got, 2tb 7200rpm hdd, b460 torpedo,
2060 super either 6gb or 8gb I cant remember
I5 10400f
Hx 850w psu
16gb ram (cant remember specific stats just that its 16gb)
Oh and a h510 flow for the case
And 500gb m.2
Probably closer to £800 tbh but between 750 and 800 so
Some parts r second hand/refurbished btw
But they all deffo work
That depends when you bought, but seems mediocre
I bought it all like a month and a half back
Then no
PC Builder - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6600, Cougar MX330-G Air ATX Mid Tower
Hold my beer, plus all new, extra 500gb ssd, better cpu and gpu
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/WV9JpH
PC Builder - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6600, Cougar MX410 MESH-G RGB ATX Mid Tower
Theyre almost identical aside from mobo, I just had the extra 2tb hdd
Case is a bit better too
Oh yeah forgot the hdd but meant over 10400f 2060
Ah
anyone
My motherboard came with a disc that says drivers on it, would that be an installation tutorial or would it be the actual drivers themself?
ok
drivers themselves
cds usually out of date tho, so just get em from other places
like motherboard website
Whats a cd?
Are you for real
is it compatible good
It's a thing you put in your microwave for 30 sec and watch the pretty pattern appear.
lmao
thoughts?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NjnRFg Thoughts? Budget: $700. Buying in November (Maybe Black Friday). Location: USA, near a Microcenter.
ask in november
no point in anyone looking at it rn
k
First glance looks okay, would wait till November for specifics though
Yeah wait til way closer to the time
Prices change
And part availablity
yeah. however.. I made a list 2 months before I bought mine and updated it every time I came across something on sale.
(plz take p-gm off the parametric selection for PSU though, just in case)
ok
My graphics card is almost here
What would be a good upgrade from a 3060?
guys should l get ryzen combo which is 336 usd
Real expensive, and are you sure the board is updated with newer bios?
or intel combo which is 342 usd
what is bios
here prices are overpriced so dont get slick
I would do the intel combo tbh
8 usd more
Gaming x is budget but good enough for 12400f
8 usd for something that is definitely faster
gaming x here is like 130 r more
It's still a budget board
142 usd
Basic vrms with pretty heatsinks to look nice
plus its ez to do the cooler on i5 not on ryzen

And yes might as well do Intel combo
I think they're about the same for ease of install* bar the bios update
so the MOBO is good
so final answer what will yall go with type ⚽️ for ryzen combo and for intel 🏀
intel
Intel
u could of typed basketball
Lol
i also could have not
🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀
Btw it's could've or could have, not could of
yea ok soviet thanks
ight then intel combo it is
Depends on the budget
That hurt my brain until I realized you missed a comma
Kek I'm bad at grammar too
I just don't like seeing could of because it kind of throws me off
could of

l jus downloaded a windows 10 on usb from laptop
and when am redy am gonna plug in pc
Good
GOOD
It doesn't look wrong when you glance at it but it just feels like something is wrong
yea its kinda sus ngl
all of us need this
kinda fresh
Touch grass moment
yall think l should get this case the brand is sus but it looks cool good air flow
Phanteks makes ones very similar and are a much more reputable brand
more reputable wym
name is more known
Very well known and widely used brand because of a great product.
Good warranties, customer service etc
many people say that they dont know them
who?
Many people being who lol
some people
Phanteks is one of the most well known manufacturers in gaming
yeah lol
phanteks
yes
that isnt the name of case
It’s a brand.
send him one
the brand is modecom
yes we know we are saying there’s a brand called phanteks that’s popular and good
There saying don't go for the no rep brand modecom and look at phanteks instead
This is a Phanteks case. P500a specifically.
oh ok
looks nice
do you speak another language?
yea
what language
macedonian
English only here btw.
he understands it kinda
yeah l now
lol
Check out Coolermaster, antec and Phanteks brand cases.
these ones people know
l can try search if they in my country
yeah try that
that’s yours?
Yea
i can tell lol
what cpu
i need a decent gpu
i’m trying to get the 2060 or 6600 once there’s a good deal on them lol
30 series are having pretty good price reductions lately :p
is the 2060 better then the 3050
?
very very odd question but where’s your desk from im looking for a similar desk
yes
Reason: Bad word usage
i thought so
ok l checked everything but there bad
checked what?
wow
yo @mossy venture help this guy find a case lol
It’s from Amazon
you had patience with me
But not available anymore
lollll
mx330-g air if youre fine with it being ugly
otherwise g360a is great for a good looking and quality/airflow case
i’m still looking at the bitfenix one
yea us and canada have things here europe is kinda rough
if you swipe up the ones he wants are up there^
.
What's a worthwhile upgrade is it worth upgrading to a 3090 or should I get a 3080? Like what card is it worth upgrading to?
yea gorf we dont have them cases
Not really any of them imo, especially with next-gen getting so close
do you have anything with a mesh front panel?
mesh for good airflow
this
Yeah i just worked a lot this summer and could afford a 3090 if I really wanted. Also is there a date on next gen yet?
Sama is an ok brand
irs cheaper
That looks like a lancool ii knockoff
yea no
Within the next 6 months is likely
Yes? I know what I'm looking at
Maybe I could convince my parents to split the cost for Christmas...
better
deepcool
Good case. Comes with 4 molex fans iirc
😱😱
Lol molex
kinda looks goofy but
It works tho and it's cheap
What is the performance increase supposed to be?
Rn? It's rumoured to be between 1.4-1.8x increase going by apparent 3dmark numbers
Hmm
RDNA3 is rumoured to be even more but so was 40 series
l found a better looking one and its antec
so anyone
Meh but still mesh
cheapest i can find
So decent
its not better than deepcool one
that cards pushing my budget a little lol
I don't think so
comes to 428 after tax
there same price with deepcool
i’m looking for like tops 410$ after tax
It's a good one. 3 fan 6600 it will never run loud
what fps you get?
mine will be Asus dual rx 6600
120W max tdp with like a 250W cooler lol
huh
I've only done some 3dmark benching which got to about 8900 graphics score, but in war thunder it gets over 360 fps (The person using it pkays competitive)
Averaging about 300
@mossy venture gorf this or deepcool one there same price
see but i don’t even think i need something like that
Not now maybe but price to performance it's pretty good
i’m gonna be playing like Minecraft,fortnite,coldwar,forza
And long term it'll be good
For cold war and forza it'll be pretty solid
Would estimate some 150-ish fps at 1080p on forza
incase worsts comes to worst i can’t find a good deal this next pay cheque is the 1660 super any good?
New? Not really
hm
For a small bit more you get a lot more performance going to 6600
so best option is probably 6600 or 2060
Yeah imo
hm okay
You can also go used gpu
It's just like for that little bit more you're gonna get a LOT more life out of the system
i understand
Especially if and definitely when you get into new games
mine
wrong one lol
hold on
PC Builder - Intel Core i5-12400F, Radeon RX 6600, BitFenix Nova Mesh SE ATX Mid Tower
there we go
plus windows 10 key
not worried about that rn
@cyan ravine what do you think about that?
Do this instead
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KDGqrD
PC Builder - Intel Core i5-12400F, Radeon RX 6600, BitFenix Nova Mesh SE ATX Mid Tower
Or a different case if I find a better one with fans one sec
i wanna stick with that case and the rgb ram tho
especially the case
i could stand the ram part
but i really like the case i have
and with that mobo i’m worried about the bios thing
We haven't had a single person come back to us about that mobo
Ok I can keep the case one sec
Wait
We picked the same case lol

Well anyway i put the one with rgb fans in
perfect
made it cheaper
wow
thank you
Just do that, there will be no compatibility issues
okok bet
i’m sure the graphics card price will change so i’ll be back to ask for help again lol
When are you building this?
@cyan ravine what do you suggest the deepcool or antec there same price
Deepcool imo
that deepcool
ordering most the parts when i get paid on Wednesday
just trying to figure out a good card
Sure



hahaha seems like deja vu at this point 
I bought an antec nx410 once to try
ended up returning it for false advertising
said the fans were argb
were actually molex powered with no control
My experience with Antec other than my a tier psu have not been pleasant
This is Antec's Customer Service...
This is the picture in question lol
Clearly says Radeon, lol. 6950XT. I hate that single lil 6pin making the 2pin dangle off, but oh well.
Cut it
Tuck it in
Those things have a habit of popping back out lol, I say cut it because even if you did need it to be an 8 pin again later it's like $5 for a cable
I also have 3 other cables not daisy and 3 others that are daisy lol
but my extensions came in today so I can just hide the little 2 pin 🙂
I may not have gotten Lian extensions, but I got some white asiahorse extensions that'll look pog
won't be so messy soon.
plus all new fans come in tomorrow
Yeah any white would look cool too
and they are white this time
I didnt get any custom cables



