building-and-recc-chat

[pale shore]

I have a good 170 hertz 4k monitor already

I dont rlly need a monitor

[ember lion]

Hi there, im building a new computer quite soon. Using a i5 12600k and need some advice on parts. I want ddr4 and overclocking capibility, preferably as cheap as possible. So far found ASUS PRIME Z690-P D4 and GIGABYTE Z690 GAMING X DDR4

[fossil cedar]

What country?

[cyan ravine]

Best ddr4 oc board is the msi pro z690-a hands down

It's not too expensive either *(usually)

[ember lion]

Sweden

The Msi is very much within my budget. What makes it the best OC board?

[fossil cedar]

It's usually a good value motherboard with good vrms etc

Lemme have a look

Yeah msi z690 a pro would be my choice

[ember lion]

my build so far, i have already orderd a 3070

[fossil cedar]

Maybe z690 pro p but i haven't looked into that much

[fossil cedar]

You going for all black?

[ember lion]

Not really, just happend that way

[fossil cedar]

Okay 1 sec

[ember lion]

The black NH-D15 wasnt that much more expensive so went for it

[fossil cedar]

It's actually very expensive

Do you want to ram oc?

[ember lion]

ah, i am blind... will change the cooler.

Yeah ram would be nice to overclock

[fossil cedar]

I'm putting together a list

[ember lion]

Thx alot

[fossil cedar]

@ember lion i would do this
https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/rTtQcb

Just to preference, the ram has a worse xmp but it overclocks better btw

[ember lion]

Thx. Guessing the AK620 has simillar performance to the NH D15?

Thx for the cooler recommendation. Saves me some money to spend on extra fans

[fossil cedar]

Yes

Arctic p12 for fans

[empty pollen]

yes, it go hand to hand against the nhd15

[ember lion]

Did some digging, some says the AK620 supports lga1700 and some says it dont?

extra mounting bracket needed?

[obsidian wigeon]

No

It does come with brackets

Some places probably had old stock

[ember lion]

Planing to buy everything from the same site (easier with shipping) should probably message and ask them if they ship the "old" or "new" one

[fossil cedar]

Oh well i just picked off of price mainly and it picks the cheapest so there might be some parts poorly priced or not available

Also ak620 is pretty new, i think it always came with lga 1700 bracket

[obsidian wigeon]

Hmn yeah

It's a pretty recent cooler

[ember lion]

Hmm, noticed on the Motherboard support page that it doesent support my intel 660p ssd. Though it supports the 670 ssd?

should this be a concern?

[obsidian wigeon]

No

It's false

Any m.2 nvme/pcie ssds will work

[ember lion]

Thx, just double checking before i actually order anything

[obsidian wigeon]

Don't use official compatibility list, cause it only lists stuff the manufacturer tested on the board

[ember lion]

Got it

[oblique sage]

Hey you online my friend ?

[mossy venture]

sup

[untold vessel]

Hold on guys this setup my be subject to a huge bottleneck

Is it the best idea to pair a 12400f with a 6900XT?

[oblique sage]

That 6900 gtx can I run multiple monitors and game/stream efficiently, or is there a better option for a tad more. Also could raise my budget it needed

[mossy venture]

6900xt?

[untold vessel]

yeah on a 12400f

I'd recommend at least a 12600k/f to get the best out of that card

[mossy venture]

for streaming, id do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TrTPQ6

[mossy venture]

the 12400f is enough for a 3090 ti

and beyond

[mossy venture]

@oblique sage

[oblique sage]

Thanks for the help I’ll probably grab the 3080. As for the gpu could I go with something a little more powerful just to be overkill?

[forest briar]

You can do whatever your heart desires

[mossy venture]

There isn't really anything more powerful, 3080 ti, 3090, and 3090 ti all are very similar to 3080 12gb

You'd just be spending money to spend money at that point

[frigid night]

I just got my 3080 12gb yesterday and I can say that I'm glad I didn't spend the money on a 3080ti +

[stuck juniper]

How big is the difference between 3080 10g and 3080 12g

[oblique sage]

I’m sorry i had a typo i ment cpu not gou

[mossy venture]

About 5%, but thats the best air cooled 30 series model so it's worth it

[mossy venture]

You could put a 12600kf or 12700f on that mobo if you want, would want a better heatsink though

Ak620 would be good

[frigid night]

Techpower says the 12gb is 3% more perf than the 10gb.
also says it's 3% less than a 6900xt

[mossy venture]

Yeah but for streaming I'd go with nvenc

[frigid night]

says it's 9% less than a 3080ti, but the price for a TI isn't worth that 9%

[mossy venture]

More like 5% worse than 3080 ti at most

[fossil cedar]

When just gaming in gpu bound games but it's not balanced at all

[mossy venture]

Ofc not, anyone buying a 3090 ti should easily afford a 12700f

[fossil cedar]

Also ppl multi task

Ye

[frigid night]

12600k is def more than enough for multitasking while gaming for sure

[oblique sage]

Ok thanks again.

[mossy venture]

Np

[empty pollen]

games run mostly on 4 cores, a 12400f is more than enough, more cores have almost no impact in gaming, just on workload applications, it will handle even to the 3090ti just fine

the one thing that matter on them are the pci lanes and all of them have 20 lanes for the gpu+nvme... the 12600 have the same 20 lanes, just more cores

[stuck juniper]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-ventus-3x-plus-12g-oc-lhr/p/N82E16814137712 is this worth buying?

Ofc its a ventus

But its cheaper then 10 gb models

[mossy venture]

You'd be better off getting a $650 3080 10gb off b stock

[fossil cedar]

The ask for help roughly once a day and keep asking the same qs basically btw

[mossy venture]

sounds about right

[ornate solstice]

what do you think about this build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[fossil cedar]

You sent the wrong link, the right one is in the yellow box

[ornate solstice]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xW4BGL

[mossy venture]

do you own any of this yet?

[ornate solstice]

no i do not

[mossy venture]

alr one sec

thats not a great list, most of it is overpriced/not great to buy

[ornate solstice]

aight can you come up with a better one for me?

[mossy venture]

making one rn

do you care about looks?

[ornate solstice]

not really

it’s just for a second pc for when friends come over

[mossy venture]

then do you need the 4tb hdd in it?

[ornate solstice]

oh that was for me 😂 i just put it on there

[mossy venture]

ah lol

and does the mobo have to have wifi?

[ornate solstice]

preferably unless you find an adapter cause the room it’s going in doesn’t have ethernet

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VPFKKp here then

could get a 6700xt for a bit cheaper, if youre fine with an amd gpu

only $20 less though, not a huge diff

[ornate solstice]

what’s the difference between the 6700xt and the 3060 ti

[mossy venture]

theyre pretty similar, 6700xt has slightly better raw perf, 3060 ti has a better encoder for streaming/recording, has slightly better rtx (rtx is a gimmick, my 3060 ti drops like 70fps with rtx on low in most games, not really worth), as well as a few other small things

some people just prefer nvidia cards for some reason

[ornate solstice]

hm i’ll get the 6700xt then

[mossy venture]

here then https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MkJmmr

[mossy venture]

oh also, do you have a microcenter anywhere near you?

[ornate solstice]

no i do not

i wish i did

[mossy venture]

kk

yeah same lol, was going to suggest this if you did https://www.microcenter.com/product/646269/asus-bb-amd-value-2-barebones-pc

[ornate solstice]

that’s a nice pc i love the case

i’ve been thinking about upgrading my pc

i want to upgrade my pc but don’t know what to add these are my parts

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nqdrRv

[topaz kestrel]

Why not just use This as a main pc and then have the other one for your friends?

@ornate solstice ^

[mossy venture]

good point

[ornate solstice]

that’s smart

i didn’t think of that

[topaz kestrel]

Not sure why the other pc that I assume you don’t use as much has to be more powerful than your main system xd

[mossy venture]

i would probably leave the p2 in that pc though, the p2 isnt a great ssd

mp33 is a good bit better, id keep that for yourself

could carry the hdd over though

[ornate solstice]

a lot of my low end games are on my hdd so yeah i’ll transfer that over

thank you for the help

[topaz kestrel]

I’d just wipe the p2 and put windows on it, it should have enough storage for a few games for your friends

[mossy venture]

could throw in a diff hdd anyways]

[topaz kestrel]

Yeah

Especially with the prices nowadays

@ornate solstice if you wanted to spend a bit more you could also get the 12600 instead of the 12400 but it isn’t really needed

[mossy venture]

12600k* to be exact

12600 isnt worth it

[topaz kestrel]

Yeah

[mossy venture]

12600k/kf has 4 extra e cores to handle background tasks and suck

12600 doesnt

[ornate solstice]

hmm well if i build the other ima want it to be able to support streaming

[drifting cypress]

What is the best PCIe 4.0 Riser cable that is compatible with the asus ROG 3080 white edition and the ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR VIII EXTREME. Asus makes a beautiful cable, but it's only 3.0. Any Ideas or successes?

[earnest olive]

wrong channel for this

also no need to send the same image three times, thanks

[earnest olive]

https://www.amazon.com/LINKUP-RX6900XT-High-Speed-Gen4┃Dual-Connectors/dp/B092JSV8Z4/

[topaz kestrel]

It will do just fine

[tacit lantern]

Didn't send the same image 3 times mate, they were all different, what channel should they have gone in?

[earnest olive]

general

it's the same image

lmao

all you did was scroll down the comparison list

[frigid night]

weird though because I saw 3 different images.

[tacit lantern]

Yeah it was three different images all 3 had different stat's which was why there were 3 different images. But oh well I'll post to general next time as to not get them removed

[earnest olive]

same cb score with the default comparison list scrolled down is basically all the same image

this channel is for help with pc builds

you didn't build your laptop

[tacit lantern]

Like I did say I understand mate, I will post in general like you said earlier, you don't have to keep going on about it.

[earnest olive]

@olive cypress you built that backplate yourself? got any progress pics?

looks really nice, good work

[topaz kestrel]

there is a few without the rgb strip but not in pieces i dont think

i agree tho its very cool

[earnest olive]

figured homemade meant a custom laser cut or something

[soft bison]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GCmNxs

Updated parts list, hoping to buy parts this weekened, any thoughts or changes that you guys would suggest?

[frigid night]

are you planning on overclocking or making use of the ecores on that cpu?

[soft bison]

I'm hoping to, I still need to do more research though, I would like to have the option to do so

[frigid night]

I don't believe that mobo supports overclocking

[soft bison]

oh fr?

[frigid night]

you'll want to look at a z690 mobo

otherwise I'd suggest a 12400

[soft bison]

gotcha

any z690 board you would suggest?

I hear good things about asus prime but idk much

[frigid night]

I'm a Mag z690 Tomahawk shill... so I'm prob not the best person to ask for a z690

[frigid night]

it's a real solid board, but there is cheaper out there. I just don't know what atm.

[soft bison]

Yeah I get that, I'll look more into z690 mobos for overclocking and such, thanks for the input

Other than that are the other parts looking good?

[desert gulch]

id opt on a different cpu cooler

and just going for a 2tb nvme ssd if you need more than 1tb of storage

[soft bison]

do you think the kraken wouldn't be able to handle the OCing?

[desert gulch]

its just insanely expensive for performance comparable to a $60 air cooler

[frigid night]

I think it's expensive compared to others of comparable coolers

[desert gulch]

you wont be oc'ing anyways on that b660

[soft bison]

Im swapping the b660

[frigid night]

If you plan on ocing I'd suggest a good 360 liquid cooler

[desert gulch]

at that point youd be better off going 12700f and b660

[frigid night]

It's what I have and I'm glad I got a 360 and nothing less.

[desert gulch]

compared to 12600k and spendy cooler and z690

[soft bison]

i gotcha

what about keeping the 12600kf, swapping for asus prime z690, and then this for cooler: https://www.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-360EX-Addressable-Technology-Motherboard/dp/B07S34WNTF?crid=38P7KA6HFD3Q5&keywords=DEEPCOOL+CASTLE+360+RGB&qid=1645617299&refresh=1&sprefix=deepcool+castle+360+rgb+,aps,128&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&smid=A1TG24VCRPTZ06&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRTVNTUYwVVRNSkdVJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODM0MDIwMUNEUEg0RjFZNEcxWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzY4ODYyNlBWWDJLQlEyMThMJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ%3D%3D&linkCode=sl1&tag=geeka21-20&linkId=8dfc2561ab4453e614c67d11621a6cf0&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

thats the other one I was looking at

[frigid night]

holy link

[desert gulch]

value just wouldnt work

[soft bison]

??

[desert gulch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CbVQPX

this is a quick cpu/cooler/mobo list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yBXQDq

[frigid night]

will that deepcool cool that cpu though?

[desert gulch]

heres with 12600kf

[desert gulch]

a 12700f?

[soft bison]

i was hoping to OC the 12600kf

[frigid night]

yeah.. my 12600k hits 50c while gaming with a 360 AFII

[desert gulch]

as you can see, even with same cooler on both, 12600kf is only like $20 cheaper which doesnt make sense when it gets smoked by 12700f in most stuff

[soft bison]

i thought 12600kf > 12600f

[desert gulch]

thats pretty low

[frigid night]

he's saying to get an i7

[desert gulch]

sure, but this is 12700f

[frigid night]

50c feels so high to me.

[desert gulch]

its a 12600kf basically with 2 extra performance cores

[soft bison]

ohhh i misread that sorry

i see what you mean

[frigid night]

I'm trippin if I get it to 55c lol

[desert gulch]

so 12700f is 12c 20t

compared to a 10c 16t 12600(k)

and then intel has to be dumb and only put ecores on the k and kf versions of 12600

which is dumb

[soft bison]

lmao facts

so you're saying switch to i7-12700f, ditch overclocking, and stick with b660?

and go aircooling?

[frigid night]

I'm starting to feel attacked

[frigid night]

I personally would go with liquid.

[desert gulch]

basically yeah

kinda depends on what youre doing tbh

[soft bison]

well i was only going liquid bc of OC

[desert gulch]

if just gaming and stuff, 12400f is a hard value to beat too

[soft bison]

yeah

I'm going to be doing a lot of gaming and a whole lot of programming

[frigid night]

12400f would be the way to go if you are just gaming

[soft bison]

got it, thanks guys

[rotund quest]

Has anyone had any experience with the new SL infinity fans from lian li and razer synapse?

I have the older models and they work flawlessly with synapse but for some reason the new infinity models just spaz out and have what feels like multiple lighting profiles going at once.

[sour sage]

btw when i try to build a pc for the first time am i risking damaging the part

[stoic island]

As long as you use common sense and don't use more force than you need to, no

If something feels like it's not going in, pause and check and not force it in

[cyan ravine]

Especially with the screwdriver

[olive cypress]

AutoCAD project first

Laser cut

Glued + painted with transparent part

Final result with LEDs added

Can't see logo because of chonk cooler

[olive cypress]

Didn't take many pics but the whole process was pretty long after all

[earnest olive]

very nice work @olive cypress thanks for sharing

[olive cypress]

:)

[fossil cedar]

Are gee bee

[heavy hemlock]

hi

👍

[mossy venture]

Did you need help with something?

[analog hearth]

lmaoo

hi

👍

[rotund quest]

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-manjit-minhas-dragons-den-give-me-five-good-job-gif-24001938

[tardy ravine]

How is it this motherboard?

Check this out on @Newegg: GIGABYTE Z690 AORUS ELITE AX LGA 1700 Intel Z690 ATX Motherboard with DDR5, Quad M.2, PCIe 5.0, USB 3.2 Gen 2X2 Type-C, WiFi 6, 2.5GbE LAN
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-z690-aorus-elite-ax/p/N82E16813145366?Item=N82E16813145366&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-145-366-_-07232022

[frigid night]

if you want to 4k game effectively, you'll want a 3080ti or 3090

possibly a 3080 12gb

[frigid night]

wonder why guy deleted his message.

[mossy venture]

Ddr5 is not worth it, I would get a ddr4 motherboard

[little osprey]

hey, I am looking for someone to build a spec list for a top of the line pc. It'll be used for gaming/streaming/coding. I don't have a budget or anything.

[fossil cedar]

what country? and you want a list for the pc or whole setup?

[empty pollen]

if you don't have a budget we don't know how high you will aim 😛

[fossil cedar]

Well no budget is just high end i guess

[empty pollen]

seems like a job for a ks hehehe

[little osprey]

@fossil cedar us

[fossil cedar]

whole setup: monitor mouse keyboard etc or just pc?

[fossil cedar]

okay well assuming you need monitor n stuff, if not just ignore them https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v7bVmr

[empty pollen]

was about to say "kinda cheap" but then gpu and aio with no price 😛

i was like "wth" a 3080 and a 900k below 2k? holy... i want two! extra fries as well

[ornate condor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ccqgQ6 my build

[stoic island]

What's with the drives lol

[ornate condor]

I will add 3x 2tb sn850 soon lmao

[stoic island]

It goes like okay drive bad drive okay drive okay drive good drive

Just get more s70 blades :p

[ornate condor]

actually it was good to bad but idk why list made it reverse then lol

[stoic island]

S70 blade better than sn850, and bx500 bad

[ornate condor]

S70 is my boot now . I will replace it with p41 later . I'm too lazy to change it lol

couse I have to clone it and stuff

Sn850s for main apps and library , 970 evo plus for personal files , bx500 for some backup

got monitors very expensive

700$ for gundam and 500$ for white strix monitor

[stoic island]

Smh

[little osprey]

What is THE BEST option for me

I need a laptop mainly for school, so i want to prioritize
battery life (8-10hours) while using regular school programs (but ill obviously
have it plugged in while gaming). BUT ALSO GOOD FOR GAMING, For example TUF, but idk if that is the best option. I also don't like the
typical "gaming laptop" look, but i can stand some
design as long as its not too much. My budget is
around $1000 USD.

[mossy venture]

Something to keep in mind, gaming laptops don't have great battery life

[little osprey]

Tuf does

[mossy venture]

I'm now selling my 3050 ti laptop to buy a laptop that has better battery life

[mossy venture]

I doubt that, are you getting that from their specs or actual reviews

[onyx saddle]

https://newegg.io/b18fc96 my possible pc build, i checked most of the part. i believe that they should all work. idk if anyone else wants to look haha

[mossy venture]

For the same price, you can make a 12400f 3060 ti build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zwtNxs

[little osprey]

Reviews, i dont know about specs

[mossy venture]

Hm, then maybe

[little osprey]

ill resend my copy paste so other people can help

What is THE BEST option for me

I need a laptop mainly for school, so i want to prioritize
battery life (8-10hours) while using regular school programs (but ill obviously
have it plugged in while gaming). BUT ALSO GOOD FOR GAMING, For example TUF, but idk if that is the best option. I also don't like the
typical "gaming laptop" look, but i can stand some
design as long as its not too much. My budget is
around $1000 USD.

[onyx saddle]

im more of a amd guy tbh, and isnt my graphics chosen not much worse then what you sent @mossy venture

[analog pulsar]

hmm it does look nice but its missing cooling

[mossy venture]

6600 is far behind the 6700xt

[analog pulsar]

[mossy venture]

It's like a 35% difference

Also I used a 6700xt in that list

[empty pollen]

you need to see gamer nexus video about that one... you ll be surprised

[analog pulsar]

i saw it

[onyx saddle]

hmmm but in terms of like being able to use 2k on high and 4k mid? dont want 4k really btw

[mossy venture]

4k gaming is a meme, I wouldn't recommend it even on a 6900xt

2k is fine on a 6700xt

[onyx saddle]

im kinda going for a low teir build just like 120 fps on most games

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt run it on a 6600 though

Also 12400f beats the 5600x and is cheaper

B450s are old and tend to not be worth it

If you really wanted amd, then I guess go 5600 and b550 pro vdh wifi

But 12400f is better to get if you're buying new

[onyx saddle]

5600 over the 5600X doesnt the X have more clock speed?

[empty pollen]

6600 is a lot worse than 6700xt

[empty pollen]

just 200mhz more, but its a lot cheaper

everything else they are identical

[analog pulsar]

they have R14, R13, R10 versions lol

[mossy venture]

Yes, but it games maybe 2% better

It isn't worth the extra $

Were going to keep talking here

[empty pollen]

problem with dell computers is that they tend to use propietary parts everywhere to cut corners... its sad to see... good laptops, but on desktops.....

[little osprey]

lmk when you stop

[mossy venture]

Try asking again tmrw, a lot of the people who usually help are asleep

I dont know laptops well enough to recc one properly

[analog pulsar]

just keep buying prebuilt haha

[onyx saddle]

shows same price on newegg, its on sale rn

[empty pollen]

yeah i bet hahaha

[mossy venture]

Then sure

[onyx saddle]

i switched mother boards

[mossy venture]

I'd do the rest of my list though, cheaper and better quality overall

[onyx saddle]

hmm now back to the graphics card, not trynna do 400$ trynna stick to that 300$ any other options better than that one

[mossy venture]

Though case is a bit ugly

[mossy venture]

But you're saving $200 from other parts

[empty pollen]

yo bacca, he needs an h510

trust me

[mossy venture]

No

[empty pollen]

😦

[mossy venture]

No no no

[onyx saddle]

hmm illl peep the other stuff rn

[analog pulsar]

[mossy venture]

Also you don't have to buy windows

Especially if you already have a windows device

[frigid night]

@earnest olive What fans are these?

[cyan ravine]

Wow the margin on that option would be insane

[onyx saddle]

i dont have a pc of my own rn. just my work stuff haha or i would just move lisence

[empty pollen]

1 grand for 128gigs? holy eff batman

[analog pulsar]

thats dells specialty

[cyan ravine]

That would be over 16gb btw

[mossy venture]

Still free to use, or you can buy a cheap sub $10 key elsewhere

[empty pollen]

3200c22 i bet

[mossy venture]

One sec, I'll dm it to you

[stoic island]

Prob idcooling fans considering bleach

[ornate condor]

yes tuf laptops have better battery life couse their gpus are low tdp

[analog pulsar]

okay you guys right dell bad

[frigid night]

Are they any good? I'm not so worried about efficiency as I'll have 10 of them, but what I'm more worried about is if the white leds will turn yellow.

[stoic island]

Ask bleach about long term reliability then

Afaik they're just cheap meh fans

[frigid night]

alright. I was looking at some coolermaster ones, but idk anything beyond arctic p12s and they don't come in white argb

afaik

ok nvm, I guess there are white argb p12s

[empty pollen]

yes they have white argbs ones

p12s are very versatile, all colors and flavors

[frigid night]

I'll be grabbing them then

looks like they only have 3 packs atm though

[empty pollen]

well you are a degenerate anyway... you are not building a pc, thats a hovercraft xD

[frigid night]

LOL

[empty pollen]

jk btw 😛

[frigid night]

I'm actually not even going to be putting my rad as push/pull this time

[little osprey]

Guys is the color accuracy in the 144hz version of the TUF f15 bad

[frigid night]

$177 for fans.

Luckily I already have hubs lol

[empty pollen]

dang bro

im still deciding on some thermaltake psu extensions 😛

[frigid night]

I was thinking of grabbing some extension as well as another gpu bracket

the bracket I have.. the white led turned yellow.

[empty pollen]

leggo bricks ma friend

the other day i saw the rog herculz while surfing newegg

kinda tempted xD

[frigid night]

If only it was white lol

[empty pollen]

have it on my cart as well, who knows

[earnest olive]

the ones that came with the bitfenix nova mesh se

[frigid night]

16ga is good for extensions?

[empty pollen]

its kinda rigid but is very good

the g6 as an example use 16ga

18 is kinda... thin

[frigid night]

gotcha. I was thinkin 16 was always mentioned to be good.

[empty pollen]

one of the tier A requirments was to have 16ga on the main cables

or was a requiremnt to be gold tier A cant remember

[frigid night]

oh I see. I believe mine has 16ga

[stoic island]

Requirement for gold

Normal seasonic focus uses 18ga iirc

Still tier a

[frigid night]

I wonder if there is anything else I should add while I'm at it

[empty pollen]

i was looking at the lian li rgb etensions and those are 18ga... and i was like, my psu cables are 16ga...

hmmmm

[empty pollen]

you were saying something about a new gpu bracket as well

just saying 😛

[frigid night]

yeah.. mine is already white, I'll just not use the lighting.

I can't find one that would look good that I'd trust tbh

[empty pollen]

just go to your local toy store for some leggo kits

there are some gorgeous builds on google using leggo

[empty pollen]

with bulldozers, shiips, even a crane as gpu bracket xD

[frigid night]

ugh, gotta clean the class I guess

the lights look white in a pic, but they are yellow in person

[empty pollen]

they seem yellow

like an old newspaper

[frigid night]

yeah thats what they look like

I've watched all my fan lights turn yellow the last 2 weeks

almost like they aren't gettting enough power, but they are being powered through sata so I know it isn't that.

[unique rapids]

I just downloaded some drivers that are available in the ASUS Armoury Crate. So does this mean theres no more need to install the AMD adrenaline driver software for the cpu?

[frigid night]

alright order is placed

[mossy venture]

@sullen spoke

[forest briar]

@grim wraith

[grim wraith]

What’s up?

[forest briar]

Your wife’s build looks pretty close to Mine lol

[grim wraith]

Yeah she used to have the 850 psu

[oblique sage]

anyone have any promo codes?

[jagged ember]

#rules

no ebegging

[potent portal]

The only ones we have are publicly available or from the mailing list. There's no exclusive discord code or anything like that.

[runic spruce]

@cyan ravine what card is that and how are the temps?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/574740748801540107/1000615357276495962/20220723_2242532.JPG

And is the reservoir built into the gpu?

Looks like a nice loop

[cyan ravine]

They're alphacool aio's they link to each other, no room for a reservoir but the temps never go past 65

It's an eagle 3080 and 5900X

[runic spruce]

Nice

Was wondering what were the fittings for a second

[wide sparrow]

[potent portal]

No reservoir sounds really hard to fill. Did you do a split valve to keep it from leaking while filling or are you going for the "soak up the leaked water with a towel" method?

[flint sapphire]

Sexy pc 👀

[cyan ravine]

Quick disconnects come with it

Again, aio's

[potent portal]

Interesting. So it's more of a pseudo closed loop?

[cyan ravine]

Yea it's like a waterloop without the pain of waterlooping

[potent portal]

You'll still need to flush that out once in a while because the clear parts let light in but it might not be as frequently as normal

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeah for sure

It's already got some build-up after 6 months

But fill level seems fine even now

If I had any complaints it's that the coldplate is very flat so on a 12th gen the cooling is kinda meh

Today I'm trying the contact frame mod to see if it's any better there, more p12s too

[upper oriole]

im looking to building a new system. im thinking about putting a ryzen 5800x with a 3080 ti and rune a panel 1440. is this a good idea or should i change something? tag or dm me with info thank you

[runic spruce]

I’d get a 12700k

280 on Newegg

And maybe get a 3080 instead, a 3080 ti isn’t that much better

[strong raft]

We sure like that $800 12GB 3080 nearly making the Ti obsolete.

[tardy ravine]

How can I know the BIOS is not good before I buying motherboard?

[obsidian wigeon]

Did you mean not updated for the cpu you're about to pair it with?

[frigid night]

Where are you seeing a 12700k for 280??

[runic spruce]

I meant Amazon

Mixed them up

[frigid night]

you got a link?

[runic spruce]

https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwik77my7JD5AhULFtQBHY5fClgYABABGgJvYQ&sig=AOD64_1p3sL-mOptb78y7MoSrZ5JZCLFjw&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwjZw7Sy7JD5AhV9mmoFHeOEDc0Qww8IjhM&adurl=

[frigid night]

because I don't see it on amazon either

[runic spruce]

Nvm

[frigid night]

that's 11700k...

[runic spruce]

I’m dumb

Thought that said 12700k

[frigid night]

Lol

I was about to be droppin some duckets on another pc part lol

[runic spruce]

Well a 12700f is 312

[frigid night]

ew

K model or bust

[obsidian wigeon]

12700f is good tho

unless you wanna oc

[frigid night]

imo if you aren't going to OC then get something less.

[obsidian wigeon]

can't go with something less when that something less is 12400f

there's no non k 12600k/12600kf that has the e cores

[runic spruce]

Yea prebuilt with k chips r weird

Bc most of time people don’t even know what an oc is

[fossil cedar]

Xx600 non k is just dumb but 12600 non k is extra dumb

[little osprey]

How come I can’t post in build pics??

[strong raft]

Keep asking a question once in a while and you'll level up to "green" soon enough

[stuck juniper]

Trident z rgb or corsair veangence rgb pro 16x2 3200mhz cl16

[cyan ravine]

Definitely trident z if you're choosing between those two

Or go silicon power rgb/ripjaws/oloys

For nice and cheap

[fossil cedar]

Stop 👏 asking 👏 if 👏 you 👏 don't 👏 listen 👏

[frigid night]

I hope I don't annoy you to the point you do this to me

[fossil cedar]

Nah you actually listen and ask about alternatives that's fine

They just ask and ignore

[frigid night]

we oughta not go forth with this lol

[empty pollen]

i know i will enrage pato with questions when raptor lake launchs, for now im just waiting to be tuesday to order my 12700f and the 690 steel legends

[frigid night]

ew steel legend

[empty pollen]

fit my budget

[frigid night]

so ugly lol

yeah makes sense

[empty pollen]

is for my sis pc, so she doesnt care

[frigid night]

ah I see

[empty pollen]

im waiting for raptor launch for mine

[frigid night]

I will probably pick up the strix with raptor lake and build a new pc with current mobo/cpu

or maybe just sell them

[empty pollen]

im thinking on the carbon for the 13th

but wil lsee

[fossil cedar]

I like the look of it

[empty pollen]

you got me on the function over form, and she will probably love the white tint... she will have a 5000x white so.....

[fossil cedar]

Matching nice

[frigid night]

hear me out... function AND form

[empty pollen]

not on that budget, and it isnt my moeny anyway XD

[frigid night]

😛

[empty pollen]

i will try to grab some 250-350 mobo when the time comes

funnction+form

thats why im thinking in something like the 690 carbon

[frigid night]

just curious.. do you use the 750ti because that's all you can get?

[empty pollen]

ofc on the 700 plattform

no, because im waiting on 40 series

[frigid night]

or are you planning on uograding?

I see

[empty pollen]

i have the coin to buy a 3080 strix but i wont

[fossil cedar]

Hear me out function over form

And save money

[fossil cedar]

The temptation

[frigid night]

but I do save money 🙂

[empty pollen]

on my swearing jar i have 1.7 already saved for mobo+cpu+mem+gpu only

but, im waiting

[fossil cedar]

Oh btw ravell b&h seem to ship worldwide

[empty pollen]

but most of the time newegg beats them in prices

😦

[cyan ravine]

They do. Can confirm

[empty pollen]

yeah i check b&h from time to time

[frigid night]

I'm thinking if sapphire releases a 7000 series card that look slike the one I bought, I'll upgrade

[fossil cedar]

Ah just mentioning cuz like strix 3080 12gb on b&h

[empty pollen]

yeah, i saw it already

[fossil cedar]

I was tempted but import from us too much

[empty pollen]

and everyday i restrain myself

[frigid night]

how much is import?

[empty pollen]

to my country is 6usd per pound, plus a 6% custom tax

[fossil cedar]

Um like 30% maybe i can't remember off top of my head

[empty pollen]

tha 800 strix could end as a 920 in my hands

still reasonable

but i have a good feeling about 4080s

or 4070s

if not, well at least im goin to get a 3080 heavy discounted at 40 series launch, in any case im not playing that much lately, so...im ok

however, i noticed some artifacting on a youtube video this morning... maybe those are the drivers used on the 3060ti

i should ddu today, i was so lazu that i unplugged the 60ti and plugged the 750

😛

same drivers xD

for reference, i sold my 60ti+psu to my sis at 500, yeah at a lose, but, family is forever

https://tenor.com/view/family-toretto-dominic-gif-23895685

[strong raft]

lol wrong app.

[empty pollen]

i dumped the 750ga for a 850g6, so it was a win for me, and the 750ga will serve her well in the new pc with the 3060ti

[little osprey]

@fossil cedar thank you, I'll be buying this all shortly

[fossil cedar]

Np

[fossil cedar]

Vin diesel army?

[quasi flume]

How can I improve my cable management

Seems gross

[cyan ravine]

Common cable routes, zip ties and patience

Is that a h210?

[quasi flume]

Ye

[stuck juniper]

@fossil cedar bought the msi 3070

[cyan ravine]

Def zip ties for itx. Zip ties are great because it's easy to squeeze cables together with so you can get some nice looking runs by only spending like a dollar or two for 100+ ties

[fossil cedar]

Well done?

[fossil cedar]

I would try taking out all or most of the wiring and stop them from crossing over as much as possible if you want it clean

[stuck juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sir-dog-nodding-head-gif-24754457

[quasi flume]

Thanks guys I’ll go buy more cables then 😦

Zip ties* >.<

Sooner or later I’ll reassemble this brick

[bold iron]

Hey boys the graphics card I was going to buy is sold out any good ones y’all know of?

[long rock]

God thats a broad question

What are you looking for? Do you have a budget? What are you gonna play/create?

[mossy venture]

What's your budget and country

[meager dew]

arc alchemist cards look like they might be good but not released yet

its also speculated that they might be cheaper

so it could be a release worth waiting for

[empty pollen]

they are not that "good" in a sense, but if they are budget friendly, they will be very competitive on the low-mid range

like very friendly entry level cards

is a nice aproach from intel, like they are not trying to start very high, but to wrestle the low-mid market first

nvidia now have a new reason in the low-mid range to not delay the 40 series that much, while amd will try to wrestle the high end

[earnest olive]

when did you sell it?

cause like at the moment that's actually above market price

unless you were pairing your 3060ti with something insane like a 1600 T2

[empty pollen]

like a month ago

[earnest olive]

which psu?

[empty pollen]

nono, it was a 3060ti+750ga at 500 to my sister

[earnest olive]

ah

a little bit above market price

not too much of an overcharge

[empty pollen]

for today's market yes

[earnest olive]

prices are actually a little higher now than they were last month i think

[empty pollen]

at that time the same card was at 550 so so

[earnest olive]

coincidentally eth is going back up

[empty pollen]

an xc3 ftw

[earnest olive]

550 where? retail?

[empty pollen]

egg

[earnest olive]

ah

i'm comparing to used price

used 3060tis can be had for 350 now

[empty pollen]

that way i bought my 850 g6 and im holding the extra 400 for 40 series

[earnest olive]

psu is probably worth 70-80 used

[empty pollen]

even less, but im noit going to buy used for my sis rig, she got the gpu+psu used by me, at least she have the safety that they were lightly used, very lightly

3 months of use

well, almost 4

[earnest olive]

that's fair

[empty pollen]

the other option she had was the 2 fan xc black but it was 429 at egg... so 400 for the 60ti xc3 was a better deal for her

the xc black was a 3060

[bold iron]

Between 500-600$ but whatever works

[earnest olive]

buying a used mining gpu is usually fine cause it won't degrade the gpu when done correctly, but some people are stupid and mine at stock so there can be degradation, or fans can fail earlier

[empty pollen]

yeah, when you buy a miner gpu its a gamble

could be an excellent user, undervolted and proper maintenance every once in while or a complete idiot

[mossy venture]

Can get a 3070 off b stock or new

Or 6800

[bold iron]

How much does the 3070 cost new?

[empty pollen]

prices on my local fb market... they are insane locally xD

thats why importing new from egg its a way better deal here

[cyan ravine]

Oh boy I feel like I went back to January looking at that screenshot

[empty pollen]

yup, is sad

[fossil cedar]

Assuming you're in the us 560
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qQM48d/msi-geforce-rtx-3070-lhr-8-gb-gaming-z-trio-video-card-geforce-rtx-3070-gaming-z-trio-8g-lhr

[cyan ravine]

On a random side note anyone else agree that the eagle shroud just looks lowkey nice on the lower end cards?

[bold iron]

That’s perfect thanks bro

[fossil cedar]

Np

[fossil cedar]

It's decent ye

Although will only be recommending gigglebyte gpus in countries that they actually rma in

3070 fhr gigglebyte gaming oc

[cyan ravine]

Ofc I'm just having a simp moment

Lol

[fossil cedar]

I assume you've heard the sad story of my gpu?

[cyan ravine]

I haven't? Unless this was the one with like several RMA's

[fossil cedar]

Nope

[cyan ravine]

👀

[fossil cedar]

So I bought 3060 ti fe to sell to rawr because india prices are dummy, i go to mine with 3060 ti and 3070 in pc because needed to wait for him to come EU, i put 3060 ti on top cuz 3070 2.5 slot card and i have matx board, as soon as i slot 3070 in, capacitor rolls out of the card onto the floor and it won't boot, i contact gigabyte for rma -> you'll have to go to retailer, goes to retailer (currys 🤮 but i was able to get it for €720 in like march 2021) they explain they don't send to gigabyte for repair, i assume they basically send back for scraps? And that offered me a replacement or cash but replacement would have been lhr and i didn't know if currys would be like since we don't have this exact model you'll have to pay price diff( Currys where selling 3070s for 1.4k at this point)

So i got got cash back instead

Rip

Luckily had 3060 ti for while to keep me going

[empty pollen]

[cyan ravine]

Damn that's painful

I must call myself a bit lucky gpu's have been good to me

Everything else I've had some weird rma incident or another

[frigid night]

So far 2/3 have been good to me

[fossil cedar]

Managed to get a 6750xt for rawr instead cuz i wanted to keep mining and rtx voice is quite important to me cuz my keyboard is annoying af on discord

[cyan ravine]

Which keeb?

[frigid night]

How is your keeb annoying in discord?

[cyan ravine]

I remember the 6750XT, the reference cards look nice

[cyan ravine]

Noise usually

[fossil cedar]

Clicky clacky

Razer uh blackwidow?

[frigid night]

I was thinking about grabbing some Kaihl Bronze Speed switches

[cyan ravine]

While we're on the topic of gigglebit, I had a gen 4 ssd fail me within a week. I was still a bit novice to the pc world but I at least had a bearing on benchmarks. I slowly watched the speeds of the ssd slow down every day until the speeds were slower than the wd hdd in my system and then I sent an rma

[frigid night]

for that clicky clicky

[fossil cedar]

Granted my bad experience has just been gpu, I've had their b450 ds3h for 3? Years now and it's done me well apart from being a low end b450 lol

[earnest olive]

yiiiiiikes

[cyan ravine]

Yea my swapped giggleboi ssd is actually kinda ridiculous

[earnest olive]

my experiences with gigabyte are mostly positive

but i had a gigabyte b550m that was DOA and it was so dead it killed a known good cpu and nvme

and then the replacement was also DOA

but it didn't kill anything with it

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[earnest olive]

RIP ryzen 5 3600x and 1tb team mp34

gone from this world too soon

[cyan ravine]

Oof

I'm a mobo and two monitors up with no dead pixels

[earnest olive]

amazon replaced them both for me though

yeah i love my gigabyte g27qc

[frigid night]

I love my g32qc

[fossil cedar]

Oof

Curved smh

[earnest olive]

i like curved

[frigid night]

I like curved too

[cyan ravine]

I like curves

[fossil cedar]

Flish moment

[frigid night]

I can't wait to post a pic of my first setup compared to a pic of what it's evolved into.

[empty pollen]

it has curves?

[frigid night]

is this website loading for you guys?

https://www.sapphiretech.com/en

[cyan ravine]

fan curves

[frigid night]

lame. it's not loading anything

well pics anyways

[empty pollen]

same

the pics are not loading

[frigid night]

was working yesterday

they must be having tissues

[wide sparrow]

*issues

[frigid night]

yeah I said tissues on purpose

[wide sparrow]

Well I'll be

[frigid night]

tissue for your issue

it's my bed time. I just pulled a 24 hour stint to complete the last expansion of ff14.

[wide sparrow]

The website works for me

[frigid night]

and that was with skipping all cutscenes and clicking through all dialoge without reading

[frigid night]

pics or didn't happen

[frigid night]

oh you are on phone

[wide sparrow]

Yep

[frigid night]

hm yeah loads up fine on my phone too

[wide sparrow]

Local internet provider could be your problem

[frigid night]

lol

same internet that my phone is going through

like.. the internet from my phone is what my pc uses

[wide sparrow]

The heck

[frigid night]

It was working fine on my pc yesterday and Ravell is having issues seeing it on his pc as well

[frigid night]

120mbps DL and 40 mbps UL for $60 a month VS 50mbps DL and 15 mbps UL for $150 through a ISP.

[fossil cedar]

Flat monitors

[frigid night]

it's ok to be wrong.

[fossil cedar]

[sand falcon]

Flat monitors are the best

[olive cypress]

^ kinda of yes

Yes.

[half iron]

best economic headset+mic for gaming?

[potent portal]

Define "economic" because that could mean $50 or $500 depending

[cyan ravine]

Could even mean a $10 headset from the supermarket lol

[old siren]

Pc part picker is saying i would need to update the bios on my mobo to properly support my cpu

Agony

[potent portal]

It's unlikely you would actually need to at this point. Even X570 boards should be updated enough to support 5000 series unless it's one of the ones that came out a few months ago.
If it's Intel don't even worry about it.

[desert gulch]

12400f and some b660 had some issues with bios early on but the chances of having that issue now are quite low

Ofc not just the f sku but yeah

Tfw earlyish in 12th gen release I had to use my 12400f to update a friend's b660m-a pro so it would support his 12400f 💀

Only Intel is capable of pulling something like that off

[smoky schooner]

Hey guys, what do you guys suggest in power supply? Is ROG a good one? I see rog Thor 1200 wat is less expensive than rog Thor 1000w p2 anyone knows the difference between them?

[mossy venture]

What gpu and cpu are you running

[smoky schooner]

I have Intel i9 129000k and 3080 ti tuf oc

[topaz kestrel]

If I’m not wrong the p2 is the newer version

[smoky schooner]

Yes it is but what’s so special about it?

[cyan ravine]

I would run those two off a cheaper 1000W than the Thor ones

Can also go lower but good for peace of mind

Supernova G6 is always the first one that comes to mind

[smoky schooner]

I am trying to find a quality power supply that can support the whole built

[topaz kestrel]

[cyan ravine]

Thor is good quality iirc but it's also priced more than it needs to be

Like a lot more

[topaz kestrel]

Yeah the p2 is like $300

[smoky schooner]

Yes very over priced haha

[smoky schooner]

Price increased it was 287$

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bRXJ7P/msi-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a1000g
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QX3gXL/phanteks-amp-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p1000g
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QdFbt6/evga-supernova-g6-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g6-1000-x1

[topaz kestrel]

As said above the supernova g6 is good

[cyan ravine]

3 examples

G6 would be cheapest

[smoky schooner]

Supported by lga1700

[cyan ravine]

Ofc it is

[desert gulch]

Ofc

[cyan ravine]

As an owner of a 12900K I can personally vouch there's no special psu type needed

[smoky schooner]

As long it does the job without issue I don’t care about names lol

[desert gulch]

I'd def pick the G6 if it were me, it's a stellar unit all around

[cyan ravine]

also the cheapest of the 3

[desert gulch]

Mhmm

Agf nice but meh hold up/power ok and not the best fan

[smoky schooner]

Nice pick thanks for the recommendation guys

[desert gulch]

Oh that isn't even a agf lol, that's just an ag

[cyan ravine]

It's stil agf based iirc

[desert gulch]

But yeah G6 rocks, and it's a solid value too

[smoky schooner]

What’s your built guys?

[desert gulch]

@mossy venture did you glitch?

xD

[mossy venture]

My brains glitching atm

[desert gulch]

Same here

[smoky schooner]

🤣🤣🤣

[desert gulch]

Maybe try and see if there's a update or maybe try a restart?

[cyan ravine]

Power cycle brain

[smoky schooner]

As far as the windows 11 any special editions needed?

[cyan ravine]

Not really no

[mossy venture]

Well the issue is I havent taken anything in the last two days but I feel high

[desert gulch]

For most people home works fine

[mossy venture]

And im at work

[smoky schooner]

Gotcha thanks guys

[desert gulch]

I had a seizure reading this because it didn't make sense lmfao

[mossy venture]

I meant haven't

[desert gulch]

Ye ik

[cyan ravine]

Wth you can mount more than 10 sata drives in the Lancool 3

[desert gulch]

I reread that like 5x thinking i was an idiot lmao

[mossy venture]

I also have to drive home in 2 hours

While feeling like this

So uhh

Yeah

[desert gulch]

Better than walking ig

[mossy venture]

My brain feels foggy and my reaction time is slow

[desert gulch]

What cl is your brain?

[mossy venture]

Right now, 60

[desert gulch]

Like cl22 type of stuff?

Damn

You almost in ddr6 range

[mossy venture]

Earlier I was

It's been getting a bit better

[smoky schooner]

Last question lol about storage, what hard drive ssd do you guys recommend for best performance and price gaming model!

[mossy venture]

Or I'm just adjusting idfk

[desert gulch]

USA?

[smoky schooner]

Yes

[mossy venture]

Ssd? P31 if you're gaming, s70 blade if you're not

[desert gulch]

What would you be using the drive for?

[mossy venture]

Hdd, x300 or most Seagate/wd drives

[smoky schooner]

Gaming computer and work

[cyan ravine]

Or mx500 if you want 2.5" sata

Generally not worth over nvme these days tho

[desert gulch]

Does your work involve writing and reading a ton of files?

[mossy venture]

Actually p41/s70 blade for not gaming

[smoky schooner]

Yes

[mossy venture]

P41 is best gen 4 ssd, p31 best gen 3

Imo just get p31

[desert gulch]

Then yeah a nice P41 or s70 blade would be nice

Lemme see what else is nice in that range

[smoky schooner]

Sure haha

[mossy venture]

Actually ye s70 blade would fit both needs

[desert gulch]

What capacity of drive are you looking for?

[smoky schooner]

2tb

[desert gulch]

Aight I'll check

[mossy venture]

S70 is $200 rn

[smoky schooner]

I don’t know if my motherboard can support 2 hard drives

[mossy venture]

Does it have an m.2 slot?

[smoky schooner]

I might get a good one for gaming and cheaper one for storage

[mossy venture]

Or do you need a sata drive

[mossy venture]

Then I'd get an ssd and a hard drive

[cyan ravine]

On a 12900K board? I would riot if it didn't

[smoky schooner]

I got hero z690

[mossy venture]

4tb hdd for storage would be good, x300 or a seagate/wed

[mossy venture]

Didn't see the build from earlier

[cyan ravine]

Yes something like 4 or 5 on a hero

Iirc

[desert gulch]

Lmao imagine if it was h610

[mossy venture]

Could also get an s70 blade, and then an mp33

If you need it all fast storage

[cyan ravine]

You're good lol. Wasn't directed like that

[mossy venture]

Specifically that one h610 without an nvme slot from assrock

[desert gulch]

Hdv?

[smoky schooner]

Indeed

Is it better than Samsung 980 pro right?

[cyan ravine]

For value yes

P41 is outright better if you want best of the best

[mossy venture]

980 pro overpriced

[smoky schooner]

I see wow

[mossy venture]

P41 is genuinely one of the best, if not the best gen 4 ssd

[smoky schooner]

We are paying for brand more lol

[mossy venture]

S70 blade is definitely up there too

[cyan ravine]

Samsung made a name for itself and now it can flex that price

Marketing at it's finest

[smoky schooner]

Hahaha

No thanks I will stick with nonames

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[smoky schooner]

Thanks guys you’re the best

[cyan ravine]

Np

[half iron]

best economic headset+mic for gaming? below 50

[cyan ravine]

^ we already replied

[cyan ravine]

.

You need to be more specific

[half iron]

that is why i defined

mb i did not answer earlier i was doing something

[cyan ravine]

Trying to be as cheap as possible? Or max $50?

[half iron]

max 50

or even 10$more

so lets say Max 60$

[cyan ravine]

$10 more I know HyperX Cloud II's are decent but this isn't my strong suit

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tZL7YJ/hp-hyperx-cloud-ii-71-channel-headset-khx-hscp-rd

#peripherals-and-displays normally has more veterans of this field lurking

[half iron]

ok i will keep this one in mind thank you

will be asking around

[little osprey]

Hi everyone, I bought a gaming chair last year but it's giving me a back pain and it's not comfortable, does anyone know a great chair for a good price?

Also I would like to know the best ddr 5 ram I can get in the market 32gb. is 64gb needed for gaming and multi tasking or 32gb is enough?

[cyan ravine]

32gb still more than enough, have you already bought a ddr5 board?

[little osprey]

yes

[cyan ravine]

Also good chairs are usually not gaming chairs

Another question for the #peripherals-and-displays channel but office chairs are great

[little osprey]

Sure, I will ask about that there

[cyan ravine]

The best of the best isn't available rn, but if you were to pick now it'd be anything with hynix pretty much

But a lot of wasted value if you want cream of the crop stuff that's available today*

To me the best value/performance are HyperX Fury 2x16GB 6000 sticks

You get almost guaranteed hynix but it's also not stupid expensive

[little osprey]

my friend recommended corsair dominator platinum, I was looking for something better in price and value

[cyan ravine]

Ye dominator ddr5 is premium on premium like trident z5 lol

[cyan ravine]

These are on the cheaper side of ddr5 iirc

[little osprey]

I see, haha

[cyan ravine]

You get the best chips but not overspend for them

(overspend in context of ddr5)

I would also consider taking the board back if it's still possible and getting a good ddr4 board

Ddr4 is still faster in games unless you do good ram OC

[little osprey]

ow I haven't started the build yet

where can I find the best gaming computer for a 3080 graphic card?

[cyan ravine]

You can run a 3080 with a 12400

There's a fair bit of misconception in the pc market about what's needed, I'll make a list rq of what would be a decent 3080 build all round

[little osprey]

ow thank you very appreciated

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/38zjBj

Or alternatively this since it's purely for gaming (this is faster)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jRC92m

[little osprey]

Ow thank you very much a lot cheaper than I expected haha

[cyan ravine]

Yeah

I would suggest 1440p for this

Or 4K if you have a big screen

[desert gulch]

imo if you went 3080 12gb this is def worth the higher cost https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qFytt6/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-12gb-lhr-12-gb-gaming-z-trio-video-card-geforce-rtx-3080-gaming-z-trio-12g-lhr

[cyan ravine]

That's the one in the list no?

[desert gulch]

ventus is in list

z trio $40 more but imo worth

[little osprey]

I'll update it

[desert gulch]

oh wait nvrmind

[cyan ravine]

Are you sure?

Lol

[desert gulch]

i thought it said ventus lol

yeah its a trio

[cyan ravine]

[desert gulch]

i have like 20 pcpp lists open and clicked on the wrong one lmao

[little osprey]

[cyan ravine]

So yea, if you take the ddr5 board back, you'll def work out a lot cheaper overall

Even long-term since ddr5 is still going to get cheaper

And faster

[little osprey]

definitely

@cyan ravine is ASRock Radeon RX 6900 XT 16 GB OC Formula Video Card better than asus tuf 3080 ti oc 12gb ? in gaming?

[cyan ravine]

no value in a 3080 ti when 3080 12gb exists and comes within a couple % of it

and yes, in games, an OC Formula* has very few equals

[little osprey]

I see, the winner is radeon rx 6900 then

[frigid night]

@runic spruce dude photobombed himself. Lol

[runic spruce]

Nah it’s one of those fancy aios and it has a gif of his face on it

[frigid night]

Oh ok lol

[fair pewter]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bWNZ9r

suggestion please?

[stoic island]

What's your budget and use case?

Do you own any of it already?

[mossy venture]

theres a lot i would change

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dptRY9

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R4tKHx/powercolor-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16-gb-red-dragon-oc-video-card-axrx-6800xt-16gbd6-3dhroc could also get this, if youre fine with an amd gpu

[muted carbon]

is theres any specific tool i need to assemble a pc?

[obsidian wigeon]

No

Only your hands and a screwdriver and you're good

Preferably a magnetic one

[muted carbon]

sent me link

pls

i love you

3000

[obsidian wigeon]

Any toolkit should be fine lol

[muted carbon]

Sę

[mossy venture]

@fair pewter

[fair pewter]

oh i see thank you, i will review it

[mossy venture]

that list is for if youre gaming

if not, id change some stuff around

[smoky schooner]

Ow is Radeon graphic card not supported by intel processor?

[mossy venture]

it is

[jagged ember]

no reason it wouldn't be

[smoky schooner]

I see, I and my friend got the asus 3080 ti tuf OC and I am not sure if RX 6900 xt OC is a better option

[mossy venture]

3080 12gb is a better option

[smoky schooner]

I see thanks

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qFytt6/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-12gb-lhr-12-gb-gaming-z-trio-video-card-geforce-rtx-3080-gaming-z-trio-12g-lhr

if theyre in the us

[strong raft]

Intel cpu + AMD gpu just feels, interesting.

[mossy venture]

what about amd cpu and intel gpu

[smoky schooner]

what does OC means lol can any graphic card be OC?

[mossy venture]

overclock

any gpu can oc

it just has a slight oc from the factory

[smoky schooner]

I see for high performance

[mossy venture]

not exactly, slightly better

maybe 2-5% depending on the card

[smoky schooner]

It makes sense thanks

[desert gulch]

*unless it's a mech oc lmaoooooooo

Mech oc probs in some cases does slightly worse than non oc due to throttling

[smoky schooner]

So 3080 is powerful than ps5/Xbox graphic card right?

[mossy venture]

yes

[desert gulch]

Easily

[mossy venture]

much stronger

a 3060 is around its equivelant

[smoky schooner]

Interesting, do you need a special monitor for 3080?

[desert gulch]

No

Ofc if you want high resolution or high refresh rate then yeah you'll need a monitor that supports thay

[analog pulsar]

https://youtu.be/UnvxSkqJ8ic?t=893 sounds like an air raid siren

[smoky schooner]

I am looking for one but I am not sure which one to get in term of value

[mossy venture]

g27q

if youre in the us

[smoky schooner]

Okay thank you

[desert gulch]

Sounds about the same as modern hardware's fans in a h510

If I'm being honest

[analog pulsar]

Never heard it

[obsidian wigeon]

g27q is also priced well here in thailand :p

[smoky schooner]

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D4-0025-00001?Item=9SIATY2D8F2469&Description=gigabyte g27q&cm_re=gigabyte_g27q-_-9SIATY2D8F2469-_-Product&cm_sp=SP-_-502757-_-0-_-3-_-9SIATY2D8F2469-_-gigabyte g27q-_-g27q|gigabyte-_-1

is it this one? @mossy venture

[mossy venture]

yes

[smoky schooner]

Great!

[analog pulsar]

M27Q is here rn

[mossy venture]

its 360 usd

no it isnt

[analog pulsar]

That is overpriced

I got mine for $300 and there used to be $250 deals

[mossy venture]

there used to be

current price is 360

it has been for a while

[analog pulsar]

Ye overpriced

[mossy venture]

so it is not decently priced here

[analog pulsar]

They have M27Q-R tho

[smoky schooner]

G27q got different ghz which one 175ghz?

[mossy venture]

im sure theres some differences that makes it a worse buy than the g27q

[mossy venture]

g27q is 144, its not a big diff

[jagged ember]

GHz...?

it's hz

no monitor runs at gigahertz

yet, I imagine

[smoky schooner]

My bad too late here and I am half sleepy

[obsidian wigeon]

144 million hz

[jagged ember]

haha it's cool

[obsidian wigeon]

that refresh rate go brr

[jagged ember]

one day, just you watch

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

gpus will burn up like that

[jagged ember]

that's what you think

[smoky schooner]

That’s in 200 years from now lol

[analog pulsar]

I should sell all my monitors bc I can't even see above 60hz 💀

[jagged ember]

when the 6900420Ti comes out

you'll see

[obsidian wigeon]

lol