gaming

[halcyon fossil]

yeah

[calm reef]

Alright I’ll try out and see how latency is, so far I just try Rec room paintball and it was decent

[untold star]

is there a way to connect to my pc without wire

[calm reef]

Yes google

[stable sigil]

If you can get virtual desktop its epic

[untold star]

Okay

[untold star]

i got vr desktop now

[calm reef]

wow its pretty nice, i changed a few settings and the latency is not bad at all, tho this is coming from a beat saber beginner haha

any recommendations on free vr games? im gonna try some out

[worthy spruce]

@calm reef not free but https://www.polyarcgames.com/store

fantastic

[untold star]

@calm reef my quest 2 a little blurry anyway to fix

[untold star]

yea vr desktop wont work

all my wifi is 2.4 and the wifi thats 5.0 the quest 2 cant reach

[solemn vine]

overclock your internet :sunglaso:

[manic mural]

yea ikr

Normal people running 5ghz band

I'm running 8ghz smh

[solemn vine]

uhh how do i check bandwidth

and is more better?

sorry not an internet nerd

[manic mural]

Bandwidth as in

speed?

https://www.speedtest.net/

[solemn vine]

ez

[manic mural]

oh yea

cloudflare dns

is fun

[solemn vine]

LETS GOOOOOOO||/s||

any tips on how to increase this? my download/upload downstairs next to the router and modem are 200/60 i think

[manic mural]

ethernet

[solemn vine]

i dont have another router

hmmm maybe i do actually

if i dont i'll ask my dad for that one asus router that linus reviewed like a week ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mthjxMP4dAc
yep found it

[worthy spruce]

linus sucks

and that router is meh

[solemn vine]

be quiet nerd linus is my lord and savior

[worthy spruce]

https://amplifi.com/alien

here

an actually good product

[manic mural]

Mesh networks are interesting

that looks good

dunno why but most mesh systems I see are like 300mbps cap for some reason

[solemn vine]

i have google nest mesh wifi

is it any good?

[worthy spruce]

this is unifi

their consumer line

so hell yeah its good

[hard matrix]

Gaming on wifi always going to suck IMO

[manic mural]

oo okay

[worthy spruce]

its the best around

[manic mural]

gaming on wifi is great for me lel

[worthy spruce]

its fine for me

[hard matrix]

The answer that said Ethernet is correct

[manic mural]

ethernet is barely better than wifi for me

[hard matrix]

It’s just always going to be more consistent

[worthy spruce]

gaming on a bad router is always going to suck

my home wifi is enterprise grade

[raw niche]

jake9876789#0727 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hard matrix]

Ethernet with bad router = wifi on $300 router

Gaming never needs the 1-2.5gbs you’re going to get with the good router and unless you’re paying gigabit from your isp it doesn’t matter anyway

[manic mural]

what

@hard matrix I mean, gaming on wifi with my ~70$ router is great

Gaming wise, basically the exact same as ethernet

[worthy spruce]

wrong lul

its all about traffic shaping

[hard matrix]

Wifi will never be better than Ethernet and if you believe that you’re just wrong. There’s so many things that can interfere with the signal and Ethernet just doesn’t have that problem

With current tech*

[worthy spruce]

it will never be better but it can def be more convenient

wires will always be superior

i run 10gbe everywhere

im just saying playing on wifi isnt life ending

[hard matrix]

I’ve never had a good time playing on wifi

Like literally in highschool had my parents run a 100ft from the router to my room because it sucked so bad. In college always ended up buying/using Ethernet because it was terrible. After that I ran a 150ft from the router to my rig again because I got terrible speeds on the wifi(tbf that was isp given)

So if it’s all you’ve got then you’ll learn to live with it I guess but I’ve never considered it acceptable

[worthy spruce]

true

i mean again it depends

my wifi setup was like $3k

and its fantastic

[hard matrix]

Well yea but if you’ve got 3k then you could definitely afford spending like 20$/100ft of Ethernet or even the 500-1000$ to put it in the wall lol

[worthy spruce]

i mean the APs were like $150 or so

but

everything else is super nice switches with 10gbps all neatly managed with cloud firewalls and load balancing and s tier traffic shaping

i crush on my network setup

thinking of getting a dream machine

[hard matrix]

Which is what

[worthy spruce]

only $400

https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/udm-pro

[hard matrix]

Ahhhh I see it’s a thingy on its own

[raw niche]

Invalid command usage, try using it like:
!warn [member] (optional reason)

Arguments:
member: User mention (@User)
reason: Text (may include spaces)

[jaunty pendant]

!warn everyone

Lol

Imagine

[latent ore]

best $25 game on Steam anyone?

[halcyon fossil]

@latent ore do u have a vr headset?

[latent ore]

I do not

[halcyon fossil]

aw

[latent ore]

IMO, my office is too small for VR

Play space is too small

[halcyon fossil]

makes sense

i was gonna recommend boneworks or budget cuts

buuuuuuuut no vr hearset

headset*

[latent ore]

I would like to try it some day

But for now, it's not a thing

[halcyon fossil]

if you dont have any valve games somehow.... theyre great lol

portal 1/2, hl 1/2 could get them all for like $8 total

when theyre on sale

[latent ore]

143 games in library lol

Wife got me a gift card 🙂

Bruh

I was around when HL1 was new

XD

[halcyon fossil]

o

i... cannot say the same

[latent ore]

It's all good my friend

I have all the HL and Portal games

Including Black Mesa

Just curious if anyone had suggestions, currently in CP2077 like everyone else

[shut quarry]

If your a fan of AC, odyssey is under $20

[strong delta]

aye, got a quest 2 for xmas

[halcyon fossil]

:0

played any games?

also @calm reef what do you think so far lol

[strong delta]

but then i slip on the floor, did the splits and something happened to my leg and now i cant move. but i got rec room

[halcyon fossil]

[strong delta]

and we got a new router that my quest doesnt like. so amazing day, crap just happened at the end

but i let my grandpa play and he loved shooting stuff

[calm reef]

I’m loving it so far, my router is from isp but it’s WiFi 6, I been having a few stutters in beat saber which I will look into further tomorrow fixing all the settings. But tracking is great, easy to setup, looks great. There are a few god rays that are only really noticeable in dark scenes

But also the audio is terrible for music lol, I’ll see if I can use my porta pros or ksc75s instead

[halcyon fossil]

yep, thats the achilles heel of oculus products, the audio

(besides facebook integration)

[calm reef]

Smh Facebook, I used my moms Facebook account

But ya so far I only played beat saber and rec room

Now I just need to figure out if I want to get link cable irl and elite strap online or vice versa. I do really want cable and strap is out of stock everywhere it seem

[neat hare]

breakpoint epic

[strong delta]

bro vr gives me a head acke

[solemn vine]

@strong delta which headset you got?

[stable sigil]

@halcyon fossil real quick, is there a way to use discord on the quest 2? I feel like I saw a setting that did but lost it and its annoying having to have my pc connected. I am using virtual desktop btw

[halcyon fossil]

i dont know how, i dont have a quest 2

[stable sigil]

Oof

I mean its probably the same for quest 1 if u have that but

[calm reef]

I feel like Kenzie said there was a discord app

[strong delta]

i have a quest 2

[solemn vine]

me too

try to limit yourself

but have more time with your headset as time goes on

[strong delta]

i cant even play it becuase is being weird with my new router

[solemn vine]

odd

[strong delta]

ye

it says connected, no internet-connected-saved- connevted, no internet and its just a loop

ive tunred it off fully, restarted it, and did the classic forgot the network and reconnect

[tranquil garnet]

Hey guys quick question

Razed viper or glorious O?

[forest bison]

For wut

Wut games

[tranquil garnet]

warzone, fortnite

[forest bison]

Viper prob

The only real diffrents is 1 glorious softwere gui better and u can dubble click wit it if ur not doin that then viper better also it has slitly better clicks lik lighter

[tranquil garnet]

So viper has an overall better physical build

and glorious slightly better software

@forest bison

[manic mural]

I feel like they prob have different shapes

[forest bison]

Lmao i have no clue man

[latent ore]

You're like, 10 years old Tawny -_-

[forest bison]

Nah im 13 🙂

[tranquil garnet]

so viper it is? or glorious? @manic mural

[manic mural]

All I can say is holes on the Mow isn't bad at all

I love my mow :P

[tranquil garnet]

for fortnite and warzone

[forest bison]

I have model o it great

[manic mural]

I got a Model O wireless

[forest bison]

Pog

But lik idk ur choise

There both great

[tranquil garnet]

or get a finalouse

lol

[forest bison]

No

No

No dont

[tranquil garnet]

why

[forest bison]

Cuz no

Bad

Baslic a model o but bad mk like dont

[tranquil garnet]

Ok and what mousepad should I get?

[manic mural]

All personal preference

[forest bison]

Lol i got just a random off brand super cheap 1 abd is fine

[manic mural]

some people like better control, some people like their mousepad going brrrrt

[tranquil garnet]

Glorious also?

[latent ore]

Finalmouse actually isn't bad according to reviews

[forest bison]

Well golius better tho

[manic mural]

I think Finalmouse makes good ambiguous shapes, but the rest leave much to be desired

[latent ore]

The problem with mice is.....too many things are subjective

[forest bison]

Ye

But for sure dont get 1 dose plastice hard 1s

For mousepad

[tranquil garnet]

ok thanks guys

[stable sigil]

Ayo where you been

[latent ore]

WYM

[stable sigil]

You most likely don't remember me but like last year we talked a bit

then you disappeared

[latent ore]

I remember you lol

I was being obtuse

XD

Yeah, life happened. My work actually got really busy

Took a break from Discord too

[manic mural]

that's rare

[tranquil garnet]

Was gonna get glorious mouse but they charge 11 for shipping

[manic mural]

not bad

[dim rover]

i just set up my glorious mouse and i instantly love it

Oh guess what it's time to finally see up

[dim rover]

oh my god vr is so cool

[feral pasture]

ONE OF US, ONE OF US, ONE OF US

Watcha playin

[dim rover]

right now just some of the free stuff like the lobby and labs

soon my buddy is gonna help me set it up for a flight sim

so we can fly together

[feral pasture]

Yeah the lab is a great demo for VR

if you like the flight sim, want to try flying combat, and you also like star wars I'd recommend squadrons

[dim rover]

i already have it and dcs

[feral pasture]

dcs?

[dim rover]

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/

very realistic flight sim base game is free extra planes more cash

[feral pasture]

oh ok

[little anvil]

Can someone help with gaming computer question

[worthy spruce]

no

[full wing]

Night in the woods is free until tomorrow on the epic games store.

[worthy spruce]

That game is FANTASTIC

claim it rn

[molten kraken]

shoot forgot to get it

Oh well in bed now

[manic mural]

First bit of pen

[slate wadi]

Any recommendations for steering wheels for gaming? I want to run project cars 2 on my oculus and it would be nice to have a solid wheel with it

[vivid shale]

I’ve been having issues where my USB slots will overheat and cause loads of latency for my mouse and keyboard is there anyway to fix that without adding fans or increasing my GPU’s fan speed? I don’t have anymore slots available for fans and increasing my GPU’s fan speed does work to fix the issue but it’s very noisy

I’ve tried even the USBs that are on my actual case too not just on the motherboard and they have the same issue

[burnt remnant]

Oddly, I've never heard of a usb port overheating. That shouldn't be the case. I've heard of the controller chip itself getting hot, but not a port overheating (outside of industrial power sources, but that's a different animal!).
Is this a thing now?
You can always buy a USB 3.x PCI-E 3.0 x1 controller card and put it in your computer, provided you don't need more bandwidth than PCI-E 3.0 x1 slot can provide. If you do, and you have the correct slot for it (that won't lower your video card link rate), get a PCI-E 3.0 x2 or x4 card (it's a longer slot, some systems have 2x PCI-E 3.0 x16 slots with the bottom one wired for x8 or x4, it can go live in that slot if using x2 or x4 does not drop your GPU slot speed).

USB controller cards using USB 2.0 are cheap, but might not show up in BIOS. Make sure it shows up in BIOS. Are you absolutely, positively sure it's the PORT overheating and not heat coming off something else?

@slate wadi Logitech makes some good steering wheels for gaming, I see them recommended often for BeamNG Drive, which I mod for, and that's a driving simulator.

[vivid shale]

I’m pretty certain it’s the slots as no matter what I plug it into USB 2 or 3 slots on my mobo or the case ones it has issues

And when I turned up my GPU fans it did fix the issue

And I do have a extra PCI slot

Actually could my CPU overheating cause the issue? It only happens when I’m playing demanding games such as COD and Cyberpunk

And my CPU is using the stock cooler

[burnt remnant]

Outside of defective peripherals, that should never be the issue. I don't think it's the ports themselves, it sounds like it's just something getting a bit too toasty in there. If you have an orb-style intel OEM cpu cooler, those can overheat quickly/easily especially with a large powerful video card. If you have a tower cooler, or all-in-one, that's much less likely. Just sounds like something is getting too toasty in the case.
If you do not have extra fan headers, you can always hook fans to case power via molex which is not optimal and can be noisy depending on the fan quality, or you can even get little dials that let you regulate the fan via a fan controller in a 5.25 bay or a single dial that can be mounted facing the back of the case on an empty expansion bracket / slot cover (they're cheaper than the drive bay controller).

I believe 10~12 years ago I was getting ANTEC fans (if I remember right) that came with a little dial on an otherwise 'blank' expansion slot cover that would screw into the back of the case. Those were quite handy, actually.

[vivid shale]

Alright I have a Antec case

[burnt remnant]

I would recommend Noctua or Fractal if buying fans, but there's a number of other brands in a range of prices.

[vivid shale]

Yeah I was thinking if I get a new CPU cooler I’d either go liquid cooling or get a noctua

Going to be a bit though as I’m getting a 5600x soon lol so trying to save up for that as well

[burnt remnant]

The Noctua fans are DEFINITELY better made, longer lasting, and quieter at full-tilt speed, but the Fractal fans are a nice middle-ground between quiet, affordable, and long-lasting (I've had some going 6 years now that are as good as new, though they've been kept fairly clean too!).
If you have the money, and you have an OEM CPU cooler yet, slap a Noctua cooler on there if you have the room. Noctua makes an off-set model of some of their coolers (I have a D-15-S myself, it's wonderful!), Noctua's website will have a list where you can check what cooler will fit your motherboard without blocking the PCI-E slot for your GPU. That's important - my Asus TUF X570 board can use either a regular or off-set model, but the ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming board (which my 3950x murdered) will only fit the off-set 'S' model of the D15 cooler. The Noctua cooler won't leak and will generally beat some - but not all - 'AIO' liquid coolers.
If buying liquid coolers, DO get one with a warranty (like Corsair has) where it covers collateral component damage if there's a leak from defect in workmanship.

[vivid shale]

Alright cool

[burnt remnant]

Well the 5600x will be a step up, I'd recommend more cores but if you do 'only' gaming the 5600x will be just dandy. If you stream or do productivity work in game modding or development, more cores = better, but games often won't use much more than an old i7 quad-core could provide.

If you buy a Noctua cooler now, it will come with brackets for AM4 socket, too, so you can re-use it.

[vivid shale]

Yeah I mostly play games but do do some streaming

Alright cool

[burnt remnant]

Streaming, a 5600x should suffice, especially when using NV ENC (nvidia encoder), which loads streaming duties onto the GPU so you won't lose FPS as bad especially on CPU-heavy games that don't use DX12 or Vulkan renderers.

[vivid shale]

Alright cool I did notice some issues with my current CPU with it actually mostly screen tearing

[burnt remnant]

I have a 3950x, even paint dot net (free graphics software) can make use of all it's cores. Some operations still take 20+ seconds on this 3950x. The nice thing about AMD processors is you can AIR COOL them, hooray for no leaks. If the fans go out it just will slow down a little. 140w under full load with a stock-settings 3950x on an x570 board would have been a dream 6 years ago when I built my Haswell machine, you will love your AMD chip, though honestly your minimum FPS and stability will definitely go up a lot more than your max or avg FPS.

Screen tearing happens without V-sync enabled.

[vivid shale]

Alright

Yeah I saw all the stuff about the 5600x I was originally going to go for another CPU which I’ll see what it was but it was also AMD

[burnt remnant]

If you end up with screen tearing, either get a G-sync capable monitor and keep the video settings set so that you ALWAYS stay above the monitor's MINIMUM refresh rate (or you could get blanking depending on some things), and make sure the G-sync option / V-sync options are on. If you have it on, FPS will be more consistent and keep the game immersion going - the only downside to vsync is in competitive multiplayer deathmatch in FPS games where you could introduce a very slight lag (though it's consistent!).

[vivid shale]

2700x was my original I was going for

[burnt remnant]

Don't go from a 9400F to a 2700x.

[vivid shale]

Alright

Also does Freesync work at all with Nvidia cards? I just got a new monitor and wasn’t really looking for it having G-sync or freesync but I noticed after I got it it has freesync so is it compatible at all or completely useless unless I get a AMD GPU?

[burnt remnant]

Get at-least a 3900x or a 5600x or better yet, a 5800x / 5900x IF that's within the budget. A 3000-series has similar performance to a 9xxx intel processor, and the 5000 series AMD has 'generally' superior performance to the intel 9 and 10 series.
You can't really make a right or wrong choice if buying the most recent intel or AMD platform, except AMD has PCI-E 4.0. Intel won't have PCI-E 4.0 for 3 more months yet.

It's so close in performance between the AMD and intel top-tier mainstream performance, that you wouldn't notice outside of benchmarks aside of one or two games here or there (which may or may not be patched in the future).

[vivid shale]

Alright well I already told my dad the 5600x is what I’m saving up for lol since I’m doing work for him to get it

Alright

[full wing]

Hİ GUYS

[vivid shale]

Hi

[burnt remnant]

FREESYNC CAN work with nvidia GPU's if it's a SUPPORTED monitor, they added support for freesync a year or two back. Freesync is just a name for an industry-standard 'Adaptive Sync' ability.

[vivid shale]

Oh cool

Do I enable it the same way through Nvidia control panel?

[burnt remnant]

G-sync is a proprietary 'enhanced' (supposedly!) trademarked version of adaptive sync by Nvidia.

[vivid shale]

Alright

[burnt remnant]

Well, see if you can, try it out, if your screen flickers, turn down video settings (as you may be going below the minimum FPS supported by your monitor), if it's fine then 'you win'.

[vivid shale]

Alright

[burnt remnant]

You just want to use whatever video settings keep the monitor ABOVE it's minimum supported FPS range of freesync. So if you have a monitor that supports 30~144fps, keep video settings so you almost never go below 30fps.

Going above it won't hurt, but going below = don't do that / bad.

[vivid shale]

Alright

Mines 144 Hz

[burnt remnant]

Honestly, if you crank your video settings up pretty high, or use a higher resolution (if your monitor supports it), it should throw more work to the GPU and less to the CPU (less overheating, if that's the case). The reason turning up GPU fans seems to help, is it's making more airflow.
If you have an Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, or Asrock motherboard, you can generally set your case fan and cpu fan curves - make those speed up sooner and it may help your issues.

Fan curves can be set in motherboard manufacturer's software (if they have some, most do), or in the BIOS (best to adjust the fan curves here as you needn't worry about software then).

[vivid shale]

Alright I have a MSI one

Alright

[burnt remnant]

You can install (if you already haven't done so) MSI afterburner, or Hardware info, to check your temperatures and see what's getting too toasty in there.

[vivid shale]

Yeah I have it already

[burnt remnant]

Both mentioned apps can be downloaded from GURU3D (dot com) website, and it's 'safe for work'.

[vivid shale]

Alright

[burnt remnant]

Okay, good, keep an eye on cpu temperatures, when it gets slow / laggy, ALT+TAB out of the game and check your temps on the GPU / CPU (both!). If they are hitting 90C, that's bad. You ideally don't want to go over 80~84C, or the life of components can be shortened (the higher = the shorter the lifespan).

[vivid shale]

Alright

I just realized I do have a free fan slot but I don’t know where it is...

I’m in my BIOS right now and noticed there’s a fan that doesn’t show it’s spinning but all of mine are and one is in the pump slot

[burnt remnant]

On the flip-side of the coin, if you had world's best cooling, when overclocking, you won't damage your stuff (within reason!) if you can keep it cool. However, when overclocking you WILL shorten component lifespan if it gets too hot (and in worst case, especially with intel stock coolers, you could potentially injure something if you go over 90C regularly even at stock speeds/settings).
To put it honestly, I tried my 4790k's stock cooler for one night back in 2014. It hit 100C almost immediately when benchmarking to test the system, and the PC shut off to 'save itself' from damage. The stock coolers are rubbish, and those darn push-pin mounts can come off slightly even just from a modest bump to the case.

[vivid shale]

Yeah

I broke my first stock cooler

[burnt remnant]

Well it might not know if a fan's spinning or installed if it's a 3-pin plug fan, those are regulated by voltage only, the PWM (pulse width modulation) four-pin fans are the 'smart' fans which your motherboard can chat with and see what speed they're going and regulate them better.

[vivid shale]

Alright

[burnt remnant]

3-pin fans were common-place 12+ years ago, but in the last 10 years, PWM fans (four plug fans) have become the new standard. Some cheap 40~50$ cases (in US dollars) still sometimes come with 3-pin fans. The motherboard (if it is not automatic) can be set / told that it has a 3-pin fan hooked to it if needed.

[vivid shale]

Im actually thinking there might not be an extra slot because they have a board explorer in the BIOS and I don’t see a fan connector 2 that’s highlighted but I see 1, 3, 4, 5, and the pump

[burnt remnant]

If you have fans hooked to molex connectors, they will run full speed all the time. This is the worst way to hook up a fan with a 4-pin PWM method being best, but if you're plugging them into a dedicated fan controller (like I mentioned a while back), they can be regulated and hence not loud.

[vivid shale]

Alright

Actually can I use a system panel connector for that or what are those meant for?

[burnt remnant]

There's likely a #2 somewhere, look in your motherboard manual which came with the board, for a board diagram. Fan headers are usually near the edges of the motherboard, with 2 being near the cpu, a max 2 or 3 along the front edge, and one or two (or more) at the bottom. More expensive boards have two, and there may be one just above the GPU slot behind the CPU area.

[vivid shale]

Alright

[burnt remnant]

System panel is a front panel connector, do not plug anything but what is supposed to be plugged in here, only plug a fan in to the dedicated fan plugs on your motherboard, or component damage / failure may result (or the machine won't turn on). Also, do not use more than one y-splitter per fan header on your motherboard if you ever use them, or you could damage your hardware.

[vivid shale]

Alright

[burnt remnant]

You can access your board's manual from the website for your board. The board model is listed on the board around the GPU slot (above it usually) or between the CPU and RAM. If you have the paper manual that came with the board, use that if needed. Hopefully you haven't lost it (keep it in your PC desk).

[vivid shale]

I have the actual box somewhere but it’s 5:20am so I gotta go to bed soon and also I’m going on vacation so won’t be able to look till I get back

Also got the freesync stuff working now

[burnt remnant]

Well enjoy your vacation. Watch out for Christmas trees if they're still put up, as they can occasionally contain rambunctious squirrels - the TV told me that :x

[vivid shale]

Lol thanks

[burnt remnant]

N/P, good luck, and do enjoy! Hope some of this helped. You can save what I said for later if needed by copying it into a text file.

[vivid shale]

I basically did everything already besides the new cooler lol and I’ll try checking out that slot. Thanks

40°C CPU on windows desktop

GPU 43°C

Well I’m going to sleep now

[manic mural]

Keep in mind you can use MSI afterburner+RTSS for the OSD to see your temps in-game without alt tabing

[uneven dragon]

Hello. I'm new so I have no idea if I'm asking this in the right chat or not. But I'm looking for a computer to play my old windows 95/98 games on. Would anyone have any recommendations on what I should get? Or where I should look? I'm trying not to spend a ton of money. I asked on newegg and they sent me here.

[bleak blade]

Just use a Virtual Machine.

[latent ore]

WIndows 10 Pro has a VM built in

Not the best but it works

[bleak blade]

Eh, I'd rather use Oracle's VM software.

I forget the name...

But, yeah a VM is 9 times out of 10 the better option.

Unless your game is on GoG then you can just buy a copy off GoG and it will work out of the box on Windows 10 without any DRM!

[latent ore]

VirtualBox

[bleak blade]

Yeah, VirtualBox!

My dad and I use it to play Total Annihilation together.

[uneven dragon]

Okay so I could just get any computer and put virtualbox on it?

[bleak blade]

He has an original CD copy, and it doesn't work on Windows 10 sadly, so we spooled up a Windows XP VM.

Well, I'd get one with a reasonable amount of power.

Like, at least a Ryzen 3 3100, 16GB of RAM, and some form of GPU. And I wouldn't buy any kind of prebuilt.

And, I would be cautious about playing any kind of 3D games on a VM. Especially Win 9x era 3D games.

Realistically I would check GoG for any of the games you want to play and see if they are on there. If they are, you can buy them there and they will work out of the box on Windows 10.

https://www.gog.com/

[uneven dragon]

I found a box of all my original CD copies but I'll check that out for sure. So you wouldn't recommend just buying a desktop off newegg?

[bleak blade]

No.

I never do.

Building your own PC will 9 times out of 10 be cheaper.

And its stupid easy to do.

[uneven dragon]

Oh really? I figured it'd be more expensive.

[bleak blade]

Give me a minute to make a build that should do well for old games on Windows 10.

[uneven dragon]

Thank you so much!

[bleak blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z2LXMv This is everything including a Monitor. This thing will run most Modern games at 1080p 144hz Medium settings alright. And it will absolutely run older games at maxed out settings.

And the PC won't have any problems with thermals unlike most prebuilt PCs.

And the motherboard has Wi-Fi also.

The GPU is a little overpriced but that's due to the grand GPU shortage of 2020.

[rain magnet]

why not budget intel?

[bleak blade]

Intel bad, no upgrade path, bad motherboards compared to AMD budget boards.

If Intel actually had decently priced motherboards in the budget category with good features and OC capabilities, along with socket longevity, i'd consider them.

But, Intel's budget boards have poor VRMs and cost a lot for the lack of features they have.

And the 10300 is only marginally faster than the 3100

[latent ore]

VRM's don't matter for a 10300

[bleak blade]

I mean, I'd rather have more VRM than barely enough.

And the B550 Pro-VDH Wifi isn't a slacker when it comes to VRM.

I wouldn't put a 5950X in one, but I'd probably be comfortable with a 5800X

Non overclocked that is.

[uneven dragon]

Thank you for doing that. I appreciate it. I definitely look into that.

[bleak blade]

No problem. I make builds all the time.

[glad urchin]

I'm getting about 160fps on Warzone with a 5800x and 3060ti on 1080p relatively low settings. Does this sound about right? For some reason I thought it would be higher

[latent ore]

Warzone is terribly optimized

RTX on?

Based on benchmarks I checked, 160 FPS seems normal for 1080p relatively low settings. Yes, this is a 5600x but relatively comparable. For some reason, Ultra settings actually increased FPS a touch or the same as low

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW5AjS0xy_4

[glad urchin]

No rtx isn't on lol. But ill watch that video, i've heard that ultra can give more fps because it gives the gpu more of a load. Thanks

[latent ore]

YW, i was surprised at the numbers there as well

But yours seems in line with that benchmark during actual game play

[worthy spruce]

ewwww oracle

[bleak blade]

Hey, VirtualBox is free and for the most part just works.

[calm reef]

VMware is nice too

[rough rock]

how's the strap for the quest 2? the elite strap seems kinda unnecessary.

[calm reef]

So far I’m finding the stock strap ok until about an hour than it starts to hurt especially near the ears than at about 1hr 30min I have to take it off really

[bleak blade]

I've not used the Quest 2, but I honestly don't understand the complaints about the Quest 1 strap.

[calm reef]

i think i heard they were stopping shipping the elite straps until they fixed some issues with them breaking

trying to get one eventually

[bleak blade]

Honestly the Elite strap is overrated for the Q2, just wait for someone to make a Deluxe Audio Strap Mod.

[rough rock]

that's what I heard. it's kinda a lot between the strap, cable, and case. ends up being more like $500 than $300.

[calm reef]

depends on cost for me, if the strap is comortable i have no issue using it because it looks nice with the headset. i don't want it looking clunky. also i don't need audio i have several headphones i can use with it

[rough rock]

have you used an offbrand cable. It doesn't seem like my mobo has a usb-c connection. doesn't the official oculus link cable require one?

[supple crown]

anyone want to play rainbow?

[calm reef]

the official cable is a male usb c to male usb c cable

[manic mural]

Siege..? @supple crown

[supple crown]

yep

[manic mural]

Maybe in a bit

[supple crown]

ok

[manic mural]

@onyx grove Siege later today?

[onyx grove]

yee, just reassembled my mouse

it clicks soooooo nicely now, its not mushy at all

[manic mural]

Might ship you my GPW to get new switches >:D

Mow so nice

[supple crown]

Around when just so I know

[manic mural]

Ima get on after I finish dinner in a few min

[supple crown]

ok

second day playing on pc so dont be too hard on me

[onyx grove]

soldering isnt that hard, you should get yourself some soldering stuff, its good to have reliable tools when you need them

[manic mural]

@onyx grove for context, I just bought screwdrivers today

[onyx grove]

im using the TS100, its really good for 55 usd

the more screwdrivers the better

[manic mural]

That's not a joke

I didn't have screwdrivers for the last year

[onyx grove]

omg

how

[manic mural]

Swiss army knife op

[onyx grove]

lmao

[supple crown]

how tf can you not have screwdrivers

[onyx grove]

i would die without my screwdrivers

[supple crown]

theirs 4 in my perifiral vision

[manic mural]

It's some random screwdriver kit I picked up at walmart

[onyx grove]

i lost my main sc, its around here somewhere

[supple crown]

If you have a pc you need to have a good screwdriver

[onyx grove]

next on my shopping list is a torque screwdriver

[manic mural]

No

You don't

[supple crown]

You do in my mind

prove me wrong

[manic mural]

Okay what the hell discord

[supple crown]

what?

[manic mural]

Aparently a picture of my swiss army knife is "explicit content"

[supple crown]

thats called liberals

people reported you it wasnt discord

they dont really look over them

[manic mural]

Lemme take another pic

Okay discord

I see how it is

Aparently my hand can't be in the pic

[supple crown]

thats a pain in the a$$ to build with though

[manic mural]

All I can say is Notua screwdriver also nice

[supple crown]

I use the Ifixit marlin

10/10 set

used it yesturday

[manic mural]

Kinda wanted a GN toolkit but

this walmart kit will have to do

[onyx grove]

hand reveal

[onyx grove]

haha, your hands are not allowed here

[supple crown]

no hands

[manic mural]

let's see if it'll let me send it on PC

[onyx grove]

i did that from fone

[manic mural]

holy crap discord is actually blocking it for some reason

[supple crown]

your hands are to dangerous

[latent ore]

They don't like you. Blocked knife pic too

[supple crown]

aye vintage

[manic mural]

okay

so apparently I can send a cropped version

but not the full photo

idk why

cropped version:

[supple crown]

like i said too dangerouse

[latent ore]

File size?

[supple crown]

ignore the spelling

[onyx grove]

ahhhh the hands!

[manic mural]

lemme check

@latent ore do remember this discord has a 100MB upload limit

from being a level 3 discord

[latent ore]

Size as in dimensions

pixels by pixels?

[manic mural]

2262x4032 2.3MB

[latent ore]

I mean, OK, weird. lol

[supple crown]

we playing rainbow or what?

[manic mural]

This one that got sent through was 2262x4032 3.3MB

was playing TNO in HOI4

gonna get on seg

[supple crown]

ok

[manic mural]

@latent ore Pixel 4 camera

[latent ore]

My S10+ photos upload fine too

Discord being stupid

[manic mural]

Like it uploads photos normally

except that one

apparently that one has explicit content

explicit content of my hand and a swiss army knife

[latent ore]

Yes, YOUR HANDS

[supple crown]

nah iphone 12 best

lol

[latent ore]

eye twitches

[manic mural]

lemme think if there's a way to share the full image

oh well

[onyx grove]

mr1111 come harass theo with me

[manic mural]

lemme test screenshot of full photo

WAT

SCREENSHOT OF THE FULL PHOTO NO WORK

@onyx grove where

[onyx grove]

gen 1

hes afk for now tho

[manic mural]

aw

@supple crown add moi

NotMr1111

[supple crown]

numbers?

[manic mural]

@latent ore this is the screenshot that discord doesn't allow me to send
https://prnt.sc/wbv18p

try it yourself

[supple crown]

what is the #

[manic mural]

wait

it sent

watttt

[manic mural]

hm

not sure if this is going to send well

[supple crown]

what are the 4 num,bers after your name

[manic mural]

and if it'll work, so I'll DM

@supple crown 1 1 1 1

it's 4 1s

no space between them

One thousand one hundred and eleven

[supple crown]

thats the # under your name in the bottom left

[onyx grove]

just add Sassy.SU in siege

makes it easier

[supple crown]

ok

[manic mural]

what

[onyx grove]

idk man

[manic mural]

this is my name in siege

[supple crown]

added you both

[burnt remnant]

They need more games with cat launchers. Nothing blows off some steam better than a whole settlement armed with cat-launcher nukes in Fallout 4. 🙂 Just stinks when you're building and get hit (and killed) by a stray kitty cat launched by a settler.

Fallout 4 video here of the Cat Launcher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP8WHVWDH_s

[raw niche]

Nathan LaFlamme#9272 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[supple crown]

im getting $h*t on rn

[manic mural]

@burnt remnant I love how retextured the explosives to be cats xD

@supple crown getting around filter not good :(

[supple crown]

what?

it looks glitched for me

[zinc wadi]

hey can someone help me

I can't click on the vehicle packs

[elder sand]

Anyone want to play black ops cold war zombies

[manic mural]

@zinc wadi try going straight to the website in a regular browser
https://store.gaijin.net/storefront.php?category=WarThunder&skin_lang=en

make sure you're logged in

[zinc wadi]

i tried that

[median blade]

Is minecraft more cpu or gpu intensive? I am not talking rtx, just plain minecraft.

[raw sage]

Oculus Rift S worth it?

[deft root]

Minecraft is more dependent on your CPU than your GPU. That means that the power of your CPU has a greatest impact on your computer’s performance, and your CPU will often be the component limiting your FPS. Also, adding shader mods will significantly increase the graphical demand on your GPU. Keep that in mind!

[full wing]

this image is nostalgic

[median blade]

@deft root oh ok. Just for reference is your cpu bottlenecking your gpu?

[deft root]

You mean R5 2600x and RX 580?

Around a 1-3% so not really

[broken garnet]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dEozF1zvx2pTHRLnlTWq8VqEbwFzRwBcrNW7kgnREvw/edit?usp=sharing
A new version of my MCHosts list has been made, feel free to have a look whenever you feel like getting a minecraft server.

[teal trail]

hey im new here suggested by a friend can someone help me? i wanna get a pc to run factorio and games like that really

[burnt remnant]

That PC is like a heavenly dream compared to my 1st PC in 1994. My first PC was the last set of CPUs before the Pentium line-up, called the '80486' or i486 CPU. Luckily, I had a soundblaster 16 and 2x CD-ROM (which plugged into a controller port on the sound card). So I was set to play Doom until I had eyestrain headaches from the old CRTs on a daily.

[burnt atlas]

factorio is fairly unique in its limiters, so the more you can elaborate on the "games like that" part, the better @teal trail

[manic mural]

Factorio is also very easy to run

[burnt atlas]

yes and no @manic mural

[manic mural]

(To start off)

[burnt atlas]

aye aye :)

[teal trail]

well

[manic mural]

But satisfactory, a game like it, is much more intensive

[raw niche]

sharky2709#2360 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[manic mural]

like

[teal trail]

just tell me what specifics are good for it 😄

[burnt remnant]

@manic mural What surprised me is the fact that Rimworld ran 2~4x faster on a 3700x/3950x Ryzen VS my 4.4ghz Haswell 4790k w/2400 mhz cl-11 memory on it.
Go figure. Benchmarks all over the internet never hinted at that.

[burnt atlas]

factorio can run just fine on a igpu, even at silly base/map sizes

satisfactory? no so.

[teal trail]

rimworlds good!

[manic mural]

Fun

[burnt atlas]

@teal trail the more info you can give us, the easier it is to recommend something that does not limit you soon

[burnt remnant]

Heck yeah it is, I have 133 colonists on my Rimworld game right now. It is starting to get a little slow now though, it's still faster than a colony of 30~40 people on a Haswell CPU.

[teal trail]

basically

top down

[manic mural]

(Specific game names would help)

[teal trail]

warthunder

(it isnt coming to me that easily but ill try)

[burnt atlas]

and while you are thinking about that, also what kind of budget are you looking at?

[teal trail]

around 700 pou8nds gdp

[burnt remnant]

2D games usually like a cpu with 1~6 cores that hits high marks on single-threaded apps. It's generally hogging a few cores on the CPU, if it's just 2d that is nothing for the GPU to even spin the fans up on. 5600x is a good cpu or if budget limited, get a 3300x or 4350g.

[teal trail]

pounds*

[burnt atlas]

machine only or is that with monitors etc included @teal trail ?

[teal trail]

moniters too

[burnt remnant]

If you go ryzen, get some 3600mhz RAM, it'll net you better performance especially if you use an igpu - even on a higher end chip like a 4650g (if you can find those 4xxx g-series, you might have to dig something up on ali express if newegg or amazon can't get your part you want, just make sure your motherboard will support it out of the box).

[burnt atlas]

you are in the "buy used" segment then

[teal trail]

not neccicerily

[burnt atlas]

@burnt remnant let the lad specify the requirements before you overwhelm them with recommendations

[burnt remnant]

Moniter :x hahaha, it's monitor 🙂 I used to make that mistake in the 90's.
You can get some pretty sweet stuff in the used market if you don't want to buy new stuff with an igpu for 700 or less on a budget.

[manic mural]

700gbp including Monitor, keyboard, mouse, headphones?

[teal trail]

nice

[burnt remnant]

@burnt atlas that's fine bud, I saw the budget when he was typing it out.

[teal trail]

what kind of moniters can i get like that then

[teal trail]

yeah

[manic mural]

Fun

[burnt atlas]

that is a 500-ish £ build then

[teal trail]

but i can get that stuff overtime

[manic mural]

I'll brb with screwing around with a budget build in gbp

[burnt remnant]

700 or less on budget I'd go get a 24~30" TV at the cash-and-carry pawn shop. If you go to a shop you regularly buy from, they may give you a 'DOA' only warranty on it too (but usually not).

[burnt atlas]

cheers @manic mural, i wont fire up a tab then

[teal trail]

sure

[manic mural]

Yea I'm just gonna look around gbp market and see which makes more sense, smth like 3100 or 10100, and if monitors will fit in the budget, etc

[teal trail]

yes yes

[burnt atlas]

unless things have changed a lot recently, used is the path that makes sense.

£ aint exactly super strong at the moment

[burnt remnant]

I mean, if you're not going to run super-high-end 3d games that are really recent, you can start out with a lower-end igpu for a mere pittance and add a dedicated gpu when you have the money, just make sure to get a 600~650w power supply if you intend to add an dedicated gpu later.
AMD is coming out with lower end 5xxx cpus in the next month or two, fairly soon, so those will be great for the 100~250$ market segment.

[teal trail]

thank you, someone whos actually human 😄

[manic mural]

Hm, the uk gpu market is even worse than the US market for last gen cards, sadly

otherwise the market looks fine

220gbp mininum for a 1650 super is quite sad

[burnt atlas]

(as i said, used is what makes sense)

[burnt remnant]

So if you wish to wait, you can, or get a cheap cpu like an Athlon 3xx that's based on the Ryzen series cores, which will run 2d games just fine. Then you can update it later if you want. Just make sure to get a decent sized 600w or close-to-it power supply that should be plenty and I mean PLENTY of power even after you later add a dedicated gpu, a bigger processor, more drives etc.

[manic mural]

But something like this, minus the GPU, are at a fine price new
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PDgG2V

[burnt remnant]

Can get a used RX 470, 480, 570, 580 or such with 8gb of VRAM for around 100 pounds GBP.

[manic mural]

(Vram isn't everything, 580 only outperforms 1650 super by a bit)

[burnt remnant]

Those cards will power through almost anything today at medium on 1080p and not run low of VRAM. They won't ray trace, they don't have DLSS, but they do game well on a budget.

[teal trail]

would that run games like satisfactory and factorio?

[manic mural]

@teal trail Oh and one other thing, are you planning to stream?

[teal trail]

god no

[burnt remnant]

VRAM isn't everything but if you can get an 8gb card for 10~15 pounds more than a 4gb card, you'll easily get most your money back when you sell it a year or so from now when you get a better one.

If the price is close ( < 25 GBP difference), it always pays to get the one with double the VRAM just for the longativity of the card.

[manic mural]

Alright, something like this will be what we're looking at, random cheapo keyboard and headset are just placeholders
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4sG9nL

Example used GPU:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sapphire-RX580-Pulse-4GB-GDDR5/274629401771?epid=20022511439&hash=item3ff1301cab%3Ag%3Aft0AAOSwSnVf6w64&LH_BIN=1

[burnt remnant]

E.G. When I got an RX 480 8gb card in fall 2016 (september or october or so), I could barely used half the VRAM at 1080p, but by 2019 in december (a year ago) I was using up most of that VRAM when modding 3d games or using newer games on highest settings. That said, the 2070 super I have now to replace it only has 8gb and personally I do run low on VRAM - BUT I do 3d modeling and such with the game open, so these things happen. Gaming alone won't generally top 8gb of VRAM until you get into the new nvidia-only features like Ray Tracing and DLSS or the other things they do (above 1080p generally). There are a small handful of games that want more than 8gb of vram, but that budget is much higher than what you wish to spend and so out of the question.

If you only play mostly 2d games, an igpu from either intel or AMD will be fine, but it will be cheaper to upgrade the AMD system later even though the AM4 socket is in it's last year of support (to mid 2021). The intel chips tend to be more expensive new and used for some reason. Maybe check the used market before deciding.

[manic mural]

Games don't really go over 8gb Vram unless they're either downscaling from 1440p+ resolution, or running 1440p+ resolution native

At 1080p, vram is nearly never a concern.

[burnt atlas]

that depends a LOT on what else you are doing on the machine

[burnt remnant]

Yes, I agree. I only go over it with heavy modding, MS Flight Sim, Cyberpunk, and the one new rockstar game I tested on here. Forget what it was, oops. 3D modeling / game designing stuff goes over it, but these are all edge-cases and the exception rather than the rule.

[manic mural]

(Since we're talking about a gaming machine, I'm assuming normal gaming workloads)

[burnt remnant]

Now, if the video card budget was 700$ then we could get something with more than 8gb of VRAM, but alas it is not, reality sometimes sucks like that. That depressing bit out of the way, gaming at even medium settings at 1080p on someone's used RX 480 or 470 with even only 4gb of VRAM is way better than last-gen consoles OR not having a PC at all (oh noes!).

[burnt remnant]

Yeah, in a year or two there will be a lot more games that push that 8gb to it's limit, but admittedly, most games I have here won't hit 4gb limits let alone 8gb. It's kind of the chicken-and-the-egg thing here, can't make a game without hardware being there to some extent (saturating the market decently), but no one will buy hardware if no games use it (ray tracing!).

[burnt atlas]

@burnt remnant you might be misunderstanding, 4gig IF you are doing NOTHING else that uses vram can be fine.

[burnt remnant]

Don't be me, who was getting too many issues with the AMD drivers on my professional apps like Maya and World Machine 2. So I went out and spent almost 600$ a year ago in dec 3rd 2019 and got a ray tracing card to play Quake II RTX that I paid 5$ for (the game not the card)... but that said, ray tracing is GREAT when rendering models to see if I messed up the UV's AGAIN (lots of muttering swears).

If you have a 700 GBP budget, spending 200~250$ on a video card if you wish to do 3d games is wonderful, even if you end up with an R5 2600x CPU, 3d games use the GPU more.
Conversely, if you run 2d games they are more cpu heavy, so I wouldn't put out much on a video card and only add one later if needed / when needed for 3d stuff / games you may buy.

Everyone's requirements are different. I wouldn't build a machine without a decent higher-end Soundblaster sound card in it for example. Motherboard audio is alien to me - but I make music on here, too, so I hear a large difference. Most 95% of people would never notice a difference even if they had high-end audio hooked up to the PC. So that money for 95% of people is better spent on a CPU or GPU for a gaming machine than how I'd personally choose to spend my own money.
So feel out the used market and see what's there, and if you're not happy with it, buy something new. At-least if you buy new you have a warranty to fall back on if the 'magic smoke' comes out too soon.

Look what's on sale on newegg, look for combo deals, maybe you can get a cpu+mobo+ram+power supply for a decent price. Check the reviews out on what you wish to buy, and then you can feel confident purchasing things.

Jan-Feb are the SLOWEST months for PC sales so they DO have good sales during those months, anytime from Christmas to the end of February / mid-march there's usually good sales to be had. Just sign up for all the tech retailer's flyers / emails and wait for the right deal to come your way.

sees entire page of text, oops, gets quiet and crawls back behind the couch for a while

[worthy spruce]

lmao another amd convert

[frosty sentinel]

I converted

from intel to amd

will never go nvidia to amd tho

[dense vale]

For now...

Still a NVIDIA boi myself tho so...

[worthy spruce]

im just happy when ppl convert away from amd to nvidia

amd makes hot garbage

[frosty sentinel]

for gpus

not cpus

their cpus are why intel has a fire under their ass

[dense vale]

Well, considering they were talking about amd and NVIDIA, I’d say they were talking about GPUs

[calm reef]

lol

[worthy spruce]

last time i checked nvidia's cpus dont really compete with amd or intel rn

[frosty sentinel]

Shut up

[median blade]

Is a 5600x with 3070 be a good pair for minecraft or would one be a bottleneck?

Also would it be a good combination for apex, valorant, and rocket league.

[rough rock]

if you use pc-builds bottleneck calculator its 3.42% gpu bottlneck at 1080,5.56% at 1440p, and 7.32% at 4k so not really a problem. Minecraft and rocket league are more bottlenecked by the cpu but should run at like 160+fps on ultrahigh settings on 4k if your monitor is capable of that. apex is the only one of those games that would really utilize your cpu+gpu and not run at super high fps at high resolution. at least according to pc-builds

whether it's a good combo or not, idk. it's kinda expensive.

[calm reef]

Bottleneck calculator not great, there is always some kind of bottleneck depending on what you’re doing but that combo should be good. Only thing I will say is the 3060ti and 3080 seem more cost effective, but it also comes down to what you can find and how prices are

[rough rock]

yeah it said my cpu bottlenecks cyberpunk but my gpu is like a constant 100% just from running the game and cpu goes from like 80-100% depending on what i'm doing so not entirely accurate.

[median blade]

So I can get away with pairing a 5600x with a 3080?

[errant light]

Should I follow this video for advice on better fps?

[vivid shale]

Should I buy R6 and Rise of the Tomb Raider now or wait for a game I know for sure I’ll like to go on sale?

[vivid shale]

Already decided to buy them

[manic mural]

r6 can be fun

[vivid shale]

Yeah I saw game play of it and it looked fun but now I gotta wait a week to play it since I’m on vacation with a laptop at a hotel that has 600KB/s download speeds...

I get like 25MB/s speeds at my moms house so a huge downgrade compared to that lol

[onyx grove]

R6 should be on sale rn

like, 7 dollars

[dense vale]

It’s a mega deal to get the... I think it’s good edition? Anyways, it’s the one with s1 & 2. Ops unlocked, and it was like $10 on epic last time I checked

Huuuuge time save

[fast solstice]

Anyone play Dual Universe? The optimization seems very poor for it but I'd be down to try even at low @ 60fps

[runic fox]

I think you were joking but you’ll be perfectly fine

[median blade]

@runic fox nah, I really do not know much about pcs. Would a 3080 be too much for a 5600x?(note this pc is going to be used mainly just to game)

[manic mural]

n o

[calm reef]

^its fine

[vivid shale]

I looked at it the 5600x is apparently too good for my GPU lmao

Not by much though

2080 super

Alright

I do need to I have been having some issues and I plan to stream and noticed issues while streaming

[latent ore]

2080 super and issues streaming?

Are you using NVENC encoding?

SO the GPU does the heavy lifting?

And no, the 5600x is not too good for your GPU

Those "bottleneck" calculators are poo

[vivid shale]

No idea how to do encoding so I guess not

[latent ore]

You said you stream yeah?

Oh, plan to stream

yeah, set up OBS to use NVENC

GPU does your encoding for the steram

*stream

[vivid shale]

I have streamed a little but not much but want to do it more

Alright I don’t use OBS so must be why I don’t know what it is lol

I use Player.me

[latent ore]

NO idea what that is

Also, you can use GeForce experience to stream too

[vivid shale]

Oh didn’t know that lol

[latent ore]

Yep, recommend that or OBS

[vivid shale]

Would 5600x be alright for light streaming though? I don’t do it much

[latent ore]

Yeah

[vivid shale]

Alright

[latent ore]

What do you have now?

[vivid shale]

i5-9400F

[latent ore]

Mmmm, even that should be decent at 1080p

with the GPU doing the encoding

[vivid shale]

I realized issues with streaming Call of Duty modern warfare

[latent ore]

Oh

Yeah well

That game is unoptimized and is a CPU hog anyway

[vivid shale]

Alright

[latent ore]

Add streaming on the 9400F to it

But srsly

[vivid shale]

No the new one

[latent ore]

Try streaming with OBS and NVENC before you drop cash on a new setup

[vivid shale]

Alright

[latent ore]

Might be surprised

nVidia even tells you how to set it up

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/

[vivid shale]

Yeah I just found that

[latent ore]

Ye

The 9400F should do OK

with a 2080 super

[vivid shale]

Might help me out too if I realize I don’t need a upgrade as I’m looking for a new laptop since I’m realizing my laptop had a huge performance drop in the past year...

Alright

[latent ore]

Yeah, give it a shot!

[vivid shale]

I will but I’ll have to wait a week since I’m on vacation lol

In case you were curious this is what I’m looking at
https://www.newegg.com/black-msi-gl-series-gl65-10sek-022-gaming-entertainment/p/N82E16834155402?Item=N82E16834155402&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-34-155-402-_-12312020

[latent ore]

KTM 1290 SDR and a couple others

[vivid shale]

No that’s a desktop I’m upgrading I’m wanting a new laptop

My laptop is a i7-8750H, 8GB RAM, and a 1050 Ti

Which was actually $100 cheaper than that laptop when I got it...

Yeah

[latent ore]

Has lots, not uncontrollable

[manic mural]

am happi, won first apex match of the day

first match of the season actually

[vivid shale]

Nice

[full wing]

hi is anyone able to help with my stream? i’m playing warzone and it flickers the in game overlays when i’m in the lobby, looking at the map. playing it’s super weird

[granite heart]

my nephew plays a lot of Fortnite and has an AMD Ryzen5-1400 with an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 (3 GB). what would make more of an improvement to his gaming experience upgrading his CPU or his GPU?

[warm belfry]

depends on how large the upgrade is, but probably the gpu

[manic mural]

yall want to see a magic trick?

[near palm]

So, Im thinking about buying a VR headset, but the Vive and Index are a bit out of my price range. Is the Rift S a good headset?

[warm belfry]

@halcyon fossil

[halcyon fossil]

no, get a quest 2

its better in every way

[bitter valley]

If you like fb knowing what you are doing

[near palm]

But am I able to play steam games on it?

[halcyon fossil]

if you buy the link cable

quest 2 + link cable = $380, which is much higher res and refresh rate than the rift s, with a lighter design, manual ipd adjustment (somewhat), and new controllers

PLUS

you can use it without the pc

its sort of like the nintendo switch of vr headsets

[near palm]

The official link cable is $80 itself. Do I need that particular cable, or will any C to C cable work?

[halcyon fossil]

i cant guarantee other cables will work, but people have said it does work with other ones

i know the official cable is pricy... but its the longest and fastest cable for that purpose

since its fiber optic, it can be longer than traditional usb c cables

plus it comes with a little velcro to attach it to the side of the headset for comfort :P

[near palm]

So, the 64gb model. Can the storage on that be expanded with like an microsd card? Or would I need to buy the 256gb model?

[dense vale]

you'd need to buy the larger version for more space, but i really dont see you using up all the 64 gbs

games for vr really arent that big yet as far as i know

also, as long as you buy a good cable, you should be ok (i just searched up oculus link on amazon and a bunch of knock-offs that were half the price showed up, bought one and its been working fine)

[calm reef]

Oculus seems to certify some off brand cables but the official is nice

[rough rock]

yeah I ordered a $25 usb-c to usb-a cable since my mobo doesn't have a usb-c connection

[dense vale]

Is it USB 3.0/3.1/3.2?

[rough rock]

3.0

[dense vale]

Ok good

Should work then

How long?

[rough rock]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B088P6HKRN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[dense vale]

That works

[rough rock]

oh 3.1

[bitter valley]

👀

[tepid wadi]

android gamers?

[calm reef]

Hmm quest controller durability at least not terrible, somehow one slide off a cabinet onto a tile floor and it bounced

[vivid shale]

Only thing I’ve ran mine into is my ceiling because my ceiling is very low for me as I’m 6’2 almost 6’3 and the ceiling is like 7’ high

[runic fox]

Quest 2 has great overall durability. Go see ThrillSeeker’s Quest 2 Durability Test on YouTube

[calm reef]

https://streamable.com/r1z565

first 10 hrs of beat saber

not my good run but its a pass

and still trying to figure out the bugs with oculus link lol

[halcyon fossil]

very good for 10 hours

[calm reef]

The audio blinks out once in a while and occasionally froze a bit. But link should get better as time goes by and I am used to these kind of things

[calm reef]

alos if anyone got nice custom maps plz send link 🙂

[slate glen]

What are some good flight sticks?

Looking for one that doesn’t have a throttle or if it does, it is, it’s a 2 piece. I don’t like how cramped some of them look when they’re on the same piece

[glass temple]

I've been satisfied with my Logitech Extreme 3d pro. It's got a little throttle lever throttle built in and if you can find it for $40 it's a good deal imo. I think if one wanted to upgrade in the future they could probably buy a separate throttle and use it with the stick

[halcyon fossil]

little advanced for your current skill level, but galactic symphony and digital girl are both very fun maps

galactic symphony is actually pretty easy (up to a point) because its just the same repeating pattern

UNTIL about like 3 minutes in

then it goes crazy

[calm reef]

ty i take a look

[halcyon fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noY9C5to5Ms

looks hard but its just up and down

lol

[calm reef]

looks doable with a lot of practice haha i really have to work on those things when it go fast, idk what called i guess equivalent to streams in osu

[halcyon fossil]

i would call them streams yeah

i felt insane after i beat that level

then i realized its just up and down LOL

id say that level is good for practicing streams

[calm reef]

ye i can tell xD

[halcyon fossil]

tetris effect is to tetris as beat saber is to osu

actually not really but yeah

lmao

osu!: effect

[golden sable]

tbh thats probably easier than ghost expert+

[rough rock]

did you have to buy the song or does that one come with it?

[calm reef]

No that was a custom song with the beatsaverdownloader mod I think it was called

[halcyon fossil]

oh of course it is

i cant even beat ghost expert plus lol

its the hardest game in the default sound track by far

[untold star]

MY VR CABLE CAME IN TODAY

I did a size comparison to the cable that comes into box

And yea

[vivid shale]

I didn’t get a official one and it works fine I think the main issue is my CPU

[untold star]

i just went all out bc zack said so

[calm reef]

Oh ya I discovered that really fast xD

[halcyon fossil]

lol

[vivid shale]

I decided not to since I was getting it as a Christmas present lol

[untold star]

What cpu

[vivid shale]

i5-9400F

Was trying to play WarThunder

[untold star]

I have a AMD 3600 and it runs fine

[untold star]

Oh I didn’t try that game yet

[halcyon fossil]

i doubt your cpu is the issue

[vivid shale]

Alright

[calm reef]

Runs mostly fine on my 8600k. Also I think it runs more off the gpu encoder, nvidia preferred because of nvenc

[vivid shale]

It crashes as soon as it opens

[untold star]

Today I had this issue with my game I tried to enable everything ultra for vr and i would hit apply the computer would slow down to 1FPS sleeps and screen would move slow so I guess I can’t do it

FLASH WARNING

⚠️

[vivid shale]

Could it be since I was trying to run off max settings?

[calm reef]

Also I discovered the bandwidth on my mobo usb c port is half of my gpu port for some reason so I’m going to look into that more

[vivid shale]

I tried my GPU’s port

[untold star]

How do you find out bandwidth

[calm reef]

You can test connection in oculus app

[untold star]

i turned up the render resultion and nothing happened

[vivid shale]

Any idea why it may take me like 5 minutes to load into a game of Phasmophobia though? I tried it on my laptop and it works fine but it takes a long time to load

It’s a i7-8750H and 1050 To

[calm reef]

What are the specs

[vivid shale]

Ti*

Also 8GB RAM at 2666MHz

[untold star]

hows this

[calm reef]

Might be a little underpowered for vr getting right on the minimum spec for some games

[vivid shale]

Alright

I plan to get a new laptop sometime this year at least

[calm reef]

But you have a 2080 super also?

[vivid shale]

In my desktop yeah

[calm reef]

Have you tried it with that

[vivid shale]

No not yet I was going to Tuesday when I get home from vacation

[calm reef]

Ah ok

[untold star]

@calm reef do you have bigscreen beta

[calm reef]

I have it but didn’t go on it yet

[untold star]

if you like rockets

[vivid shale]

Ooo

[manic mural]

@full wing you should inv me >:D

[untold star]

i might try to caught this movie

[latent ore]

That one was good

[vivid shale]

Great I’ll be in the car when the rocket launches probably so can’t watch

[latent ore]

A little slow to progress but good

[untold star]

i need beat saber

[vivid shale]

Beat saber is fun

[untold star]

all my other vr games make me sick

🤮

[vivid shale]

Only games that made me sick were ones that made you move with the joystick...

[untold star]

oh

[full wing]

invited

[untold star]

@calm reef you do vr discord yet

okay i dont think my headset likes 90hz

[calm reef]

No I just use virtual desktop

[untold star]

okay

it is fast now scrolling discord

YOU CAN TYPE IN VR

awe hand tracking no work in virtal desktop

[reef sparrow]

Nice, I see u got a quest then? Or were u lucky enough to get a quest 2?

[untold star]

how how i findc pikcsx i juyst took

[reef sparrow]

I think u can do it through OculusTV and press the My Mesia button on the left.

Media*

[manic mural]

oops wrong clip

@full wing

[full wing]

lmao

[manic mural]

@full wing can't believe I got a doublekill with a kapkan trap

[dense vale]

that was actually a wallbang i think

that or the hitmarker is delayed

[manic mural]

@dense vale playing with ~60ping so it could just be delayed

@full wing lmao the alpha pack I got from that

[full wing]

bs

I DIDNT EVEN GET A BLACK ICE

[dense vale]

👀

[full wing]

ON MINE

PURPLE NO BLACK ICE

BS

[dense vale]

my only black ice is glaz sniper lmao

[full wing]

mine is G36C and L85A1

[dense vale]

but my friend has the camrs, ak12 and aug

[manic mural]

ima clip some other stuff I did in that session later lol

I have jager primary, p90, rook shotgun, Twitch dmr, thermite pistol, and now that pistol black ice

Tho the 9 shot bad thermite pistol black ice, not the nice 21shot pistol

[sour wind]

any idea how to fix ping spikes in game? sporadically im getting 900 ping for a couple seconds and have been trying to fix this issue but had no luck, any recommendations?

[manic mural]

ethernet

shotgun feels nice

[calm reef]

And if Ethernet directly to router don’t work, try calling isp

[latent zodiac]

anyone with starwars Squadrons playing it in VR with an oculus rift S? getting really bad first impressions with it refusing to notice my controller and bad frame rates with a 2060 ko super...

[glass temple]

2060 non-super + Rift S here, I tried the game in VR like twice and while it was a cool experience, it felt pretty laggy and image quality wasn't great either

played it on 2d screen and pretty sure I get 144+ fps at all times, less laggy and better clarity

refusing to notice my controller

it doesn't support oculus touch controllers if that's what you mean

[latent zodiac]

my ps4 controller got recognized after DS4, but still having terrible frame rates on the FIRST MISSION after the tutorial area... this is terrible atm... even with low VR settings it's laggy as hell...

i have a ryzen 3900x and a 2060 i don't know what the hell is wrong here and playing this in VR was what i wanted but it's so damn frustrating to figure out what's wrong with it

maybe influencers were paid when talking about Squadrons in VR as good...

[glass temple]

How's the non-VR performance?

[latent zodiac]

i know non VR performance won't be an issue, the major selling point for me is to play this game in VR and if i can't play it like that, then what's the point of this game for me....

[glass temple]

Yeah but if it's lagging in non VR that will help find the issue

[calm reef]

Try tuning your settings, I haven’t played squadrons but my 2070 struggles with some vr games, occasionally stuttering and such

[latent zodiac]

.......
...even on low settings it's bad for VR...

[calm reef]

Take a look on forums

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/j43i5y/star_wars_squadrons_strange_performance/

[latent zodiac]

i've been looking, so far the band aid is for it to be in full and restrict it to 60Hrz but that's for flat screen, so far VR is still mostly bad from what i'm seeing except for Valve index or HP reverb, even so its still 50/50

toggling VR from the flat screen crashes Steam VR, the game, AND oculus systems... okay...

[latent zodiac]

i got it workin, the flat screen setting for full screen and 60 hrz lock also effects VR... why?
both displays are different why does the flat screen govern preformance for VR???
well... least its working mostly now, still some dips but i can stomach it

[minor kite]

who do you play in seige

im a frost/cav main

[glass temple]

Frost smg is one of my fav guns especially with the custom holo + suppressor

[manic mural]

@minor kite don't have a real main

I play whoever

[minor kite]

oh

does that mean ur a clash main

[manic mural]

by play time I think I'm zof rook main

[minor kite]

bc it gets banned every time

[manic mural]

OH WAIT NO

Therm passed zof in playtime

I'm a therm main

gotta become more of a chanka main

[calm reef]

https://i.imgur.com/xmL5PEy.png

ｈｍｍ

[onyx grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyrainbow6/comments/kplrfw/i_present_to_you_operation_magnum_dong

[manic mural]

@onyx grove bad word in link sassy

How could you

Also, want to play siege?

[onyx grove]

sure, in a bit

[manic mural]

@ me whenever

[onyx grove]

k

[manic mural]

Ima play doc rook shotgun only and see if I could get fun clips

[dense vale]

Rook main

[manic mural]

I'm just tickling em

[untold star]

https://youtu.be/tC6feLblYD0

I found zach^^^^^^

[onyx grove]

@manic mural seg time?

[manic mural]

seg time.

[onyx grove]

pog

[sturdy pagoda]

Hi @grim pasture

[manic mural]

fun

[vivid shale]

Started taking screenshots of JWE so here’s a indoraptor

[calm reef]

https://i.imgur.com/EB2OALj.png

-_-

[glass temple]

Hey I got something like that yesterday while playing HL: Alyx

The Oculus home/menu worked fine though

Like the headset was connected and working fine but steamvr decided it didn't wanna work

[calm reef]

once in a while it just disconnects from my pc its getting a bit annoying

[calm reef]

https://i.imgur.com/aQP7cYs.png

sad

[dense vale]

FeelsSadMan

[latent ore]

bad cable?

[calm reef]

i hope it's not a bad cable. im trying a few things now and sent logs to oculus to see if they think it's a cable problem

this might be the point where is officially disconnects https://i.imgur.com/q97aXC6.png

[latent ore]

Front panel USB or motherboard?

[calm reef]

mobo and gpu, currently gpu

i can deal with an occassional stutter but if it outright crashes it annoying when i am in a good run -_- https://i.imgur.com/JOA9Ks4.png

[bleak blade]

Just buy VirtualDesktop at that point.

20 bucks gets you an amazing wireless solution.

Unless your router is just incapable of a 5ghz signal, it should work fine.

Even the meh-tier router that comes with my parent's xFinity service lets me play Beat Saber with no lag.

Also, the 2020 GOTY on Steam is BS.

Although, none of those games deserved GOTY

[calm reef]

ye it worked ok but vd occassionally blanked out. its a wifi 6 router but my guess its a bit crowded with constant in and out connections

[bleak blade]

And No Man's Sky definitely deserved Labor Of Love.

And Persona 4 Golden deserved "2020" Best Soundtrack.

But, realistically, the soundtrack wasn't made in 2020.

That's odd that your Wi-Fi 6 router is acting funky

Is it a Quest 1 or Quest 2?

[calm reef]

2

[bleak blade]

Even weirder

[calm reef]

ye i know oculus have some manufacturing issues so its possible, i did contact them but in the meantime im just trying things and checking logs to see what's going on

[runic fox]

halo has the best soundtrack, but idk who won

[bleak blade]

Doom Eternal for some reason

Like, you can't even properly listen to Doom Eternal's Soundtrack without playing the game.

[golden sable]

the doom eternal ost is good in the moment, but listening to it outside of doom eternal is kinda dumb

yeah exactly

[bleak blade]

No, legitimately you can't listen to it properly without playing the game.

It sounds really dumb without the way the game layers certain OST "songs"

[golden sable]

cant you just listen to them on yt?

[bleak blade]

No, they sound incredibly stupid.

[golden sable]

ah ok

so they get progressively better in game because each layer of the song forms

[bleak blade]

Yeah.

And to boot the dynamic mixing of the Doom Eternal OST was bad on first release.

And, the composer for Doom Eternal (And Doom 2016) was let go over the entire controversy.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Doom+Eternal+soundtrack+poor+sound+quality

[golden sable]

geez

[thorny dust]

pcccccccccc

[mild creek]

Hey everyone! I’m hoping someone can who’s had a similar problem or just knows about it can help me out: I recently got an HTC Vive Cosmos Elite and it looked great while playing with the cord, but after hooking up a wireless adapter I’m left with a shaky picture and poor resolution. Any help is appreciated!

[warm belfry]

@halcyon fossil

[halcyon fossil]

never used a vive or the wireless adapter, sorry

[warm belfry]

bro ur like THE vr guy if you cant help him nobody can