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swift bough
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windows 10 is free without activation so you dont have to worry about that

full wing
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ahhh i get that

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thank you for the list itโ€™s a great help!

manic mural
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You're welcome.

gloomy quiver
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someone is interested in playing minecraft?

heady wind
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@gloomy quiver yes

gloomy quiver
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Noice

thorn stirrup
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Who plays Quantum Break and Divisions 2?

swift bough
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i have division 2

amber hazel
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Who plays brawlhalla here?

smoky salmon
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is a ryzen 5 3600x good enough for vr

halcyon fossil
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yes

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just need a good gpu

smoky salmon
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@halcyon fossil like a rtx 2070 super

halcyon fossil
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yes

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that would be fantastic for VR

smoky salmon
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uhm another question

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b450 pro carbon or x570

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they are the same price

halcyon fossil
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x570 would be the better chipset as it has PCIE 4.0, however there are some other things to take into consideration

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x570 is better for upgrades in the future.

smoky salmon
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but people say it runs hotter

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should i still get it

burnt atlas
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@smoky salmon techinically it does run hotter

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it is also a better chipset

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however, realistically the "amount of hotter" it runs, does not matter one bit

burnt atlas
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its quite literally comparing a rock out in the sun and a rock that has been in the shade

smoky salmon
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fr

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thanks for telling il make sure to put it in my new build

burnt atlas
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and yes, that board is a decent board

smoky salmon
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alr

whole tundra
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Iโ€™m starting a minecraft server if anyone wants to join pls dm me

amber hazel
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cool

main lake
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Hey I'm new to pc building and me and my dad want to build a pc for racing simulator games such as Project Cars 2, F1 2019, Forza Horizon etc. We have a 55-inch 1080p tv and we are looking for a build around 1200 or under. If any of you have any suggestions it would be appreciated. Thank you!

gloomy quiver
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Hey I'm new to pc building and me and my dad want to build a pc for racing simulator games such as Project Cars 2, F1 2019, Forza Horizon etc. We have a 55-inch 1080p tv and we are looking for a build around 1200 or under. If any of you have any suggestions it would be appreciated. Thank you!
@main lake well, do you already have periperals?

unborn gull
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I assume since itโ€™s a tv that itโ€™s stuck at 60hz

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Also yea peripherals would be important

gloomy quiver
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yeah, i don't think they make monitors that big

main lake
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Yes we have peripherals! I think I got some help from the build chat, but thank you for responding to me

burnt atlas
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@main lake "some help" <- does that mean you need more help or?

glass yoke
manic mural
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hey

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I feel pinged

glass yoke
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Linux gaming has come a long way

main lake
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Sorry, Im trying to send a link to the 1000$ build on pcbuilder but it won't let me post the link. If you have any recomendations other than that build I would love to hear it. Thank you!

burnt atlas
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@main lake just send me the link as a dm, and i will post it for you

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the bot will keep eating your link until you get a higher lvl here

glass yoke
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That one?

manic mural
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sadly it's a fair bit over 1000 now... bc PSUs going out of stock and all

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if I can slap in a CX 450w for it's normal price, it would be under 1000$

burnt atlas
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@manic mural you helped @main lake last night or?

manic mural
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Don't remember

burnt atlas
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fair

manic mural
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I just have that around to paste it at people lol

burnt atlas
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kk

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i know it will make a "mess" of your pcpp, but i generally do named "saves" of builds with people i actually interact with

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"mikeny - newegg - 2000+" <- example of one of them. Name of the user, server it is on, the rough budget

main lake
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Yes it was @manic mural

burnt atlas
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i would personally not go with a hdd. and then use that budget on a bigger ssd

main lake
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Ok thank you! Sorry this was kind of confusing

burnt atlas
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dont worry :)

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and please remember, there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

manic mural
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Thing is naed, at 1000$, it's such a common budget that I just can't be bothered to make separate lists xD

burnt atlas
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aye aye, i get that :)

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it was for the "question/situation/problem" of figuring out: hmm, have i helped this person or not?

old hawk
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Does anyone know where I can buy oculus rift s there sold out everywhere!

halcyon fossil
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yeah, theyve been sold out for a long time

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gonna have to wait :(

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just be warned, never spend any more than $400 for a new one

gloomy quiver
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Anyone wants to play minecraft rn?

nocturne cloak
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anyone know of an apex discord ? im in plat 4 and looking for other players

gloomy quiver
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Someone here wants to practice on minigames for 1.8.9?

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The classics

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And pvp

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1v1 or anything

stray bone
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i have a dell precision t3600 with an e5 1602
gt 520 ๐Ÿ™‚
im thinking if i put in a better gpu and replace the cpu with an e4 2640 v2
will it be able to game?
it has a 600+ psu and 32gb of ram

little bloom
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That is a workstation system if I am not mistaken, correct?

stray bone
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yep

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not ideal but it is what it is

little bloom
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What games do you want to play? ๐Ÿ™‚

stray bone
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destiny 2 mainly

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forza also

little bloom
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Hmmm... Have you already tried to play them on it?

stray bone
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nope

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i dont want to scar my eyes with the gt 520 lmao

little bloom
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๐Ÿ˜›

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I would say to give it a whirl & see what happens, first. ๐Ÿ™‚

stray bone
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alright

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i was thinking a 1660

little bloom
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Just be careful. Not all systems support all video cards. I found that out w/ my LGA775 Xeon system. Went to upgrade the video card from a Radeon 5670 (old I know) & it got stuck @ the POST screen. ๐Ÿ˜›

stray bone
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bruh

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mine is lga2011

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hopefully it works

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im installing win 10 along with existing ubuntu rn

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so i can test it out on the 520

little bloom
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I also have a friend that had a similar problem w/ the video card ordeal. IDK what his specs were.

stray bone
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ah i see

little bloom
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His would just NOT boot, after. lol

stray bone
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oh god

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this is scary

molten orbit
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If you're worried about compatibility, pcpartpicker is pretty great for double checking your current gear with any upgrades you want

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lets you make build lists and automatically checks for compatibility issues. Compares prices, as well

safe cloak
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dude my mobo isnt even on pcpartchecker

molten orbit
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which one?

safe cloak
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ms-B901

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im having a pain in the ass time figuring out which m.2 to get

molten orbit
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I assume you already checked userBenchmark?

safe cloak
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it says that there are no m.2 drives that are compatable

molten orbit
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on UB? I'm looking right now, and there's quite a few

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most popular 128 right now is the MTS800

safe cloak
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which ones?

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i can only spend up to like 50 bucks

molten orbit
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hm

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looking for an m.2 for under 50 bucks doesn't find many reliable ones

safe cloak
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im not using it for windows just for a couple games to load in faster

molten orbit
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the highest one at 49$ has a 51% rating. None of the others below 50 have a higher rating than this

safe cloak
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which is that?

molten orbit
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Mushkin Pilot 250GB

safe cloak
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and that would be guarenteed to fit my mobo

molten orbit
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That's what it says.

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It would probably be easier to measure the length of the mounting area

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and just compare with the parts listed there

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imma just dm you the link so you can be 100% sure

stray bone
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ill try pcpp

tepid lake
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Will the game supernatural from oculus also be in the oculus store?

silver fox
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Literally just played Rust for 11 hours straight. What am i doing with my life...

tame cobalt
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F

silver fox
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Great game tho

full wing
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/214490/Alien_Isolation/ $95 off - $2 USD if you're into that sort of thing (hashtag not sponsored)

HOW WILL YOU SURVIVE?Discover the true meaning of fear in Alien: Isolation, a survival horror set in an atmosphere of constant dread and mortal danger. Fifteen years after the events of Alienโ„ข, Ellen Ripleyโ€™s daughter, Amanda enters a desperate battle for survival, on a missio...

Price

$2.00

Recommendations

19731

Metacritic

81

โ–ถ Play video
gloomy quiver
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Wow

glad urchin
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lol so apparently i got a valorant drop even tho i wasn't watching streams

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i don't even want to play the game tho

gilded lion
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Iโ€™m just gonna wait until it fully releases

swift bough
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is fun

silent valve
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Total War Shogun 2 is free right now up until the 1st.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/201270/Total_War_SHOGUN_2/

MASTER THE ART OF WAR In the darkest age of Japan, endless war leaves a country divided. It is the middle of the 16th Century in Feudal Japan. The country, once ruled by a unified government, is now split into many warring clans. Ten legendary warlords strive for suprema...

Price

$29.99

Recommendations

18399

Metacritic

90

fluid spoke
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Seeking help. Usb C suddenly stopped working for my oculus quest (not an oculus cable....but was working perfectly fine). Any ideas??

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Was a USB to a USB -C

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I ordered a USB -C to USB-C....and even that isnโ€™t connecting to the headset

manic mural
swift bough
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๐Ÿ‘

amber abyss
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Is the rabbit hole that is Star Citizen worth jumping down?

manic mural
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no afaik

raven flame
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It's a good way to justify a really expensive computer.

silent valve
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No Man's Sky is more justifiable and already offers most of the features ironically

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๐Ÿ˜‚

celest cipher
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What do you guys think of CyberpowerPC

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?

astral spear
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overpriced piece of

full wing
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I got a cyberpower pc that was broken, off the shelf from walmart. no return refunds or warranty (even though cyberpower pc honored it anyway in full) i7-8700 (non-k), 16GB of ram, and a GTX 1060 3G for $330

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the only reason i would EVER consider a pre-built in these times is because those system builders buy those GPU's at insane prices, and i couldn't come close (when i was plannning) to build a PC at a better price (like it used to be in the old days)

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what was broken about the PC? bad ssd. - i got lucky (walmart even had 'techs' go in store to try and fix it [LOL])

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overpriced retail? absolutely ๐Ÿ™‚

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cyberpower pc even sent me the replacement fan, lighting kit (just needed remote) and mousepad that was supposed to come with the PC ( hashtag not sponsored ) but i approve of their amazing AMAZING customer service

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wrong channel? pls dont ban

glad urchin
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Ok cool ๐Ÿ˜‚

celest cipher
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It might of been bad because it was only 330 dollars ๐Ÿ˜ญ

calm reef
bitter inlet
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got it

calm reef
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๐Ÿ‘

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there is no selling in this server, but I would check ebay or maybe r/hardwareswap someone might have something

full wing
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Myb โค๏ธ

halcyon fossil
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@full wing we dont allow buying/selling here, but just a tip of advice, never pay more than MSRP price for a VR headset especially if used.

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Rift S = $400, Quest 64gb = $400, Quest 128gb = $500, Index full set = $1000, Vive (hard to find and all used anyways) $450-500 (i wouldnt get vive)

full wing
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Thank you ! My bad

halcyon fossil
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all good

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which headset are you interested in getting?

full wing
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I wanted a vive for fullbody

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But I heard Rift S does the same thing, I run a business online that requires full body VR tracking

halcyon fossil
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with the rift s for full body tracking, you need to buy the base stations + the vr headset + the 3 body trackers + straps to adhere them to your body

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its the same with the vive, but the vive should come bundled with the base stations anyways

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also

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with the rift s

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you cant use full body tracking outside of SteamVR apps

full wing
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Oh I did not know that rift had Fullbody tracking thank you. Yes all of my apps are through steamvr

halcyon fossil
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yep

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Oculus does not support Full Body Tracking, but SteamVR allows you to do it anyways (connecting back to what i said earlier about only working with steamvr apps)

full wing
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Thanks so much! Now I just need to build a pc around it. Im sure $1500-1700 works

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For the PC

halcyon fossil
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Of course

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Lemme make a list real quick

full wing
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^^ awesome thanks all of these things are a bit confusing

halcyon fossil
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Could save money by going with rgb-less ram, not-as-good-looking case, and cheaper fans but i like that list a lot

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and it sits just under $1700

full wing
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Thank you very much!!

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Thats an amazing build it fits everything I needed and more

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The one I was going to buy from the bestbuy guys was... expensive, and less powerful

halcyon fossil
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yeah, thats bestbuy and prebuilts for ya

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oh also

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i forgot to add it to the list but i recommend this

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for thermal paste

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the stock cooler has some thermal paste on it but this will do a much better job.

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to get the stock paste off, i recommend using a coffee filter and some rubbing alcohol as it will do the best job in removing all of the stock paste (90% or higher isopropyl alcohol will work)

full wing
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I really appreciate this info. I will tag you in the pictures once the build is finished ^^

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Thanks again so much

halcyon fossil
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awesome ๐Ÿ™‚ no problem

stray bone
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well i got win 10 and ubuntu to dual boot

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and destiny 2 installed

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about to test it out ๐Ÿ˜„

halcyon fossil
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pfft.

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i got win 10 and macos to dual boot.

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lmao but good job

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dual boot is a pain in the butt

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question

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does ur windows install change the time every time you go back from ubuntu?

unborn gull
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Mine does

calm reef
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what if I dual boot windows 10 and windows 10

halcyon fossil
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do that and then run windows 10vms inside each

stray bone
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no

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my windows install picks up where i left off

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wdym by change?

halcyon fossil
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when i use macos and go back to windows the time gets screwed up

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it thinks its like 5h earlier

little bloom
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That happens to me w/ Linux & Windows or the BIOS time in general, @halcyon fossil . I think it has something to do w/ GMT.

halcyon fossil
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ye

frozen geode
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how anybody got any good deals for vr

glad urchin
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Bill gates looking for deals...
Now I've seen everything ๐Ÿ˜‚

calm reef
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most are sold out

visual bear
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I have considered getting into VR, just not sure if I really want to yet

calm reef
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well right now most headsets are out of stock

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well rn most headsets are out of stock

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well rn most headsets are out of stock

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well rn most headsets are out of stock

visual bear
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I know, but I am still debating on if I truly want to do VR

halcyon fossil
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@visual bear what questions do you have about VR?

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ive used multiple headsets and am happy to help if you need it

visual bear
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its not really questions perse, its more hesitation of would the VR be worth it, I like the concept and idea, but I have double vision that is not correctible so would I even benefit from it, and as far as hardware what would be the better (more user customizable?) as I like to tinker....

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@halcyon fossil but I am considering getting into it, and not sure if I could use it with non VR designed games (like train simulator 2020)

halcyon fossil
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valve index would probably be the most customizable but its super expensive

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i like VR, games like beat saber, half life alyx, boneworks

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all good game

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games*

visual bear
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I really don't have many VR games, only one that I think I even play is Bridge crew

halcyon fossil
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ah

visual bear
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but if i could get a game like train simulator to work in vr that might make it more interesting to me however

carmine ridge
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Remnant from the Ashes is on sale for Steam. Is it worth buying/playing?

full wing
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Derail Valley on Steam is supposedly like train simulator, also there's flight simulators and others for vr, like racing... anyone else get a Pimax while they are on sale? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ same as valve index... and comes with controlers

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also hi everyone I'm goodmix

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same price, way better specs apparently

full wing
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Remnant from the Ashes co-op looks pretty awesome... built in voice chat only... but it looks fun

celest cipher
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Yo anyone wanna 1v1 in fortnite

manic mural
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no

celest cipher
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Add my epic TTV SLAUGHT3R or Tyler0919 If that doesnโ€™t work

halcyon fossil
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@full wing no gofundmes please

full wing
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Ok

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Sorry

halcyon fossil
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all good

stray bone
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gt 520's are hot doodoo

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i get 11fps on low settings with 50% render res on Destiny 2

outer dagger
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Hey everyone. I just joined on here, so please let me know if this is the right place for questions like mine. I just ordered the XFX RX 580 XXX Edition 8GB. I know I'll see night and day difference from the nVidia GTX 580, but what kind of numbers (FPS, etc.) can I expect in games like?
For reference, other components I'm running:
Core i5-7400 3 GHz Quad-Core
MSI H110M PRO-D Micro ATX LGA1151
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000
Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB Boot
EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold
I'm using the rig for digital art and video editing, on top of gaming (when time allows)

karmic garnet
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@outer dagger I had an rx580 4gb and a ryzen 5 2600, and I pushed about 100 frames in most games on mid settings. Most games on mid settings, expect 80-100 frames.

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You might get over a 100 with low settings

next spear
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anyone wanna play apex?

surreal apex
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you wot

manic mural
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@open oasis tried unturned 4.0 yet?

swift bough
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checking my join date

dense delta
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Hey I could use some help. So I just got 3 vive trackers for full body tracking on saturday and so far everything was working just fine till yesterday after trying out blade and sorcery's full body tracking, the trackers just started to get all jittery. Can someone help?

burnt atlas
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@halcyon fossil you around to help the guy above here with a VR question?

halcyon fossil
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i wouldnt know anything about vive trackers, sorry

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tracking devices do bug out when theyre on low battery, so maybe try giving them all a full charge

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try wiping the base stations with a microfiber cloth, update graphics drivers

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common solutions ^

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@dense delta whats ur pc specs?

dense delta
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@halcyon fossil here's my parts list

halcyon fossil
manic mural
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@dense delta make sure it's public not private

manic mural
full wing
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Anybody got some recommendations for a horror game for VR?

halcyon fossil
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@full wing Half Life Alyx has some pretty scary moments

swift bough
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wouldnt be a horror game tho

ornate basalt
tame cobalt
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my sentiments exactly

full wing
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Help

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tell me if this is decent or not

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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idk

tame cobalt
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absolutely terrible

manic mural
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no please no

swift bough
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flip no.

surreal apex
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troll build is troll.

stray bone
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@burnt atlas solid 60 at 1440p ultrawide with the k4200

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all low settings though

burnt atlas
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@stray bone aye, it can deliver frames. IF the right settings are found. But it will never be a powerhouse for this day and age

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which was the point of the original answer :)

stray bone
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lol yes that is very true

azure bolt
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Just finished playing about an hour of HL Alyx. Amazing so far. But feeling a little motion sick. and strangely everything still sort of feels disconnected like I am in VR after taking it off. Never had that sensation before.

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It didn't hit me at first, but I got up and walked over and sat down on the couch and was reading on my phone and had the weirdest feeling like the motion and the way I was holding my phone still felt like VR fand threw me off for a second. I have read about people having this problem before but never experienced it myself.

grizzled summit
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Has anyone had any luck playing bo3 on pc without it stuttering like crazy? If so can you help me?

burnt atlas
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drivers and settings

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those are your main ways of fixing

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but, that is the general fix for most games

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(i dont play bo3)

grizzled summit
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Bo3 came out like 4-5 years ago and drivers are updated

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Every setting is the lowest it can be

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Vsync on in control panel off in game

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2070 super and 2700x

manic mural
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weird

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prob just the game being weird

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any other games it does that?

grizzled summit
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No

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I've heard bo3 is horribly optimized but some people fixed it by changing a certain setting but no luck fro me

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Would redownloading the game fix it?

raven flame
full wing
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my frametimes are incredibly high at 20 ms on valorant. is there a fix? i have a ryzen 5 2400g and a rx570

manic mural
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sensitivity converter...?

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why

halcyon fossil
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covert mouse sensitivity for tryhards

glad urchin
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Lol

raven flame
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Takes 30 seconds to figure out what 2.0 in cs go means in valorant, apex, overwatch etc.

manic mural
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I like to figure it out myself

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because different games feel different

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and require different sens imo

midnight glacier
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vr is fun

halcyon fossil
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@midnight glacier what makes you say this?

midnight glacier
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cause its fun

raven flame
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vr... chat?

halcyon fossil
calm reef
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vr chat fun

full wing
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VRchat big fun

summer epoch
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Using VR to play on a PC

mortal bison
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is there a channel for game deals?

glad urchin
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Not a designated channel but sometimes people put them in here or #tech-deals

dense slate
halcyon fossil
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:0

full wing
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It's almost impossible to find a rift s in any stores, even online. all used are 600+ dollars and even for new in some places.

slim sage
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Oh that's a cool port that's like how someone did that with metal gear solid from the ps1 looks wayyyy better on the PC with the port

full wing
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What are some new releases for the vive that would be worth getting?

slim sage
idle garnet
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@dense slate how does one go about downloading the pc port of super mario 64?

unborn maple
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Probably a stupid question but Is there like special pc parts I need to play vr other than like a vr headset ?

full wing
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pretty sure when you buy one you also get the controllers you would normally use for vr

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you can also buy sensors for full body tracking

fleet widget
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as long as your pc is capable of VR and has 3.1 usb ports, and an open DP port (or hdmi for older headsets) you shouldn't need anything else. But if you get something like the index, you have to make sure you buy the headset, base stations, and controllers. You can buy the headset by itself but you need the other stuff to play. Rift S will come with what you need

unborn maple
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Do most motherboards come with 3.1 USB ports and open DP port?

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@fleet widget

fleet widget
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a lot of the newer ones do, and dp would be on your gpu

unborn maple
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Oh ok

glossy oyster
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No no donโ€™t touch me there

wanton robin
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this is my no no square

surreal apex
calm reef
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๐Ÿ‘€

glad urchin
tame cobalt
manic mural
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@onyx grove new event :D

manic mural
swift bough
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fr

manic mural
calm elbow
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yea bruh i saw that event

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idk what it really is tho

full wing
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Can anyone recommend a good gaming laptop from like $500-$1000?

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I was planning on playing games on it such as Generation Zero, R6S, CSGO, MC, etc etc

manic mural
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laptops are wacky, I might take a look in a bit.

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Shotguns take no skill, thats why I'm so good at shotgun only gamemode xD

shadow cedar
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I think thatโ€™s the best bang for you buck laptop wise

manic mural
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Not much storage tho

tame cobalt
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Just get a giant tape drive

unborn gull
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Getting a rift s is damn near impossible rn

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So annoying

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On a side note

wicked sphinx
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Is Oculus Rift the best budget headset right now?

calm reef
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rift s best budget yes

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it is also impossible to find nowadays

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don't pay more than 400 for it

wicked sphinx
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The plain old Rift is only $300, and the Rift S is $400. Why not buy the plain old Rift?

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@calm reef

calm reef
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the rift s is better if you have a small space and is easier to setup because it has inside out tracking, so it is only the headset and controllers. the original rift has external sensors and from i hear you need to buy a 3rd sensor for decent tracking. The visual clarity on the rift s is also better, but the audio on the original is better than the rift s

wicked sphinx
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Okay. Thanks! I'll look into it!

stoic belfry
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Does anyone here play Jedi fallen order?

fleet widget
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i did

azure sundial
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I don't even have the money to afford almost all of the stuff that everyone is talking on this server

cobalt sinew
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Same. Im here with a 600 dollar laptop, and that is it

outer plume
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It's not cheap

gilded lion
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@cobalt sinew you know you can build a whole gaming setup for $600 if you really wanted to.
Just saying

cobalt sinew
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Yeah, but when I got this I didnt know much about computers. I would probably have ended up screwing it up, no matter how many tutorials I would have watched

tame cobalt
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@azure sundial buy Dell Optiplex 7010 with i7-3770 and put GTX 1050 in it, and put Windows on Fattydove SSD

dusk moat
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used rx card please

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not a 1050

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470/480/570/580

tame cobalt
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Last I looked, 480 prices were trash

azure sundial
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Ok

tame cobalt
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Though I gotta say, 1050 prices also looked pretty trash

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The only thing that appeals to me is the 580, and especially the 1650 Super

silent valve
manic mural
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ya

calm reef
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yay

gilded lion
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Yo I know the minimum recommended requirements for VR are either a GTX 960 or an RX 580, but any way you could run it on a lower end PC, with an example being this: i7-860 + RX 570 4gb.
What about a more powerful cpu (i7-3770ish) with an RX 470/480?

Iโ€™d like to label my PC flips as โ€œVR readyโ€ but idk if anything below those RX 580/gtx 970 requirements would run it well...

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Does that make sense?

full wing
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I won't bother with VR until the resolution is better and less buggs ^^

halcyon fossil
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๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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lol that doesnt relate to the question

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@gilded lion my brother has an RX570 and im curious how well it would run too. If youd like i could give it a try if he is willing to let me

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I did run VR on a 1050ti and it sorta struggled, but the RX570 is about 30% faster than the mobile 1050ti i used, so I think VR would run okay on it.

gilded lion
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Well I donโ€™t have a be headset or anything. Before I do VR Iโ€™d like to upgrade my monitor and graphics card, and then try VR

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Iโ€™m just asking because itโ€™s a pretty big selling point to say a PC is โ€œVR Readyโ€

halcyon fossil
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lol understandable

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Also, @full wing have you tried VR before? If so, what headset?

stable sigil
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Anyone here play Rust?

glad urchin
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Not me

neon spire
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I've been debating between getting Rust or Ark

manic mural
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Rust is toxic but can be fun

stable sigil
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Id get rust

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I have like 150 hours its fun

glass kiln
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is the oculus considered the best VR overall?

halcyon fossil
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the Oculus Rift S is the best VR headset in my opinion.

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The only other one that i would even recommend right now is the Valve Index, and i can hardly recommend that because it has a $1000 price tag.

glass kiln
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holy moly, $1000

halcyon fossil
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yeah

glass kiln
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I'm thinking about picking up one... I wonder if I have enough space in my living room for it haha

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(The Oculus) haha

halcyon fossil
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rift s is $400 and the only things youre missing out on is the finger tracking which is a gimmick, and the nicer screen which doesnt matter when youre focused on the game. (i guess audio is a downgrade too)

but you gain much better software, easier tracking with the inside out cameras, easier controllers, and access to the oculus store

calm reef
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Index is technically best, oculus best value tho

glass kiln
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well said

halcyon fossil
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there is no "technically", i think you should be saying "on paper"

glass kiln
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Well if I had $1000 to spend, I'd be picking up the Index instead?

halcyon fossil
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but in practice, finger tracking is a gimmick in its current state, you have to set up base stations around your room, their software is worse, however the screen and headphones are nice

glass kiln
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oh wow!

halcyon fossil
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in Half Life Alyx, developed by the same people who made the Index, the only thing you can do in that game that you cannot do with other headsets is crush cans.

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which adds nothing to the game.

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just think about the price difference is my main point.

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is the better audio and screen worth the extra $600 including all the problems it has?

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also index hardware is notorious for breaking

glass kiln
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thats whats concerning

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hmm

halcyon fossil
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im going to go play beat saber now

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byeeee

glass kiln
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see ya

halcyon fossil
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if you have any more questions, just ping me. I own a Rift S and know just about everything there is to know about VR

glass kiln
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sweet thanks

halcyon fossil
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ye

calm reef
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Index has better res refresh fov and tracking, both have their issues

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It really just comes down to what you can afford

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If you donโ€™t have the money no need to get index, rift s is fine

halcyon fossil
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index tracking allows for accessories to be tracked too, but those accessories are expensive.

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also base stations berak.

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break*

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rift s has cameras on the headset, less likely to break since no moving parts.

calm reef
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Unless you hit your head on a wall a lot lol

halcyon fossil
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^

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which if you are doing, youd have greater problems.

calm reef
calm reef
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mmmm

dusty marsh
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@halcyon fossil ack are you going to buy the 'Jedi' controllers when they release for Rift and Quest?

halcyon fossil
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depends on cost/what they do that my controllers cant do already

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i suspect theyre just gonna add finger tracking. i could care less.

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finger tracking with controllers is dumb.

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the idea of finger tracking is meant so you dont need a controller

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also i dont do social stuff in vr yet, so no finger tracking advantage there

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index controllers cost $280 with the selling point that they have finger tracking. if oculus puts their controllers at that price, that is going to be a no from me.

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their separate touch controllers cost $80 a piece, so i assume the price will only go up.

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i am interested in Oculus Del Mar though... i would like to see better screen, mostly in the refresh rate area, better audio, and better comfort. The quest's fabric strap isnt so great imo.

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i want it to do what the quest is trying to do

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PC/Portable headset

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without drawbacks

molten dawn
#

is there a solution to random 100% packet lost? ive been getting bad spikes lately.. i need help

glad urchin
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Might have to contact your isp

surreal apex
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yeah

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seems like a port issue

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@molten dawn what are you doing when you get the 100%

molten dawn
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nothing

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just chillin on valorant

surreal apex
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Packet loss remedies
Check connections. Check that there are no cables or ports badly installed, or deteriorated.
Restart routers and other hardware. A classic IT trouble-shooting technique.
Use a cable connection. ...
Keep network device software up-to-date. ...
Replace defective and inefficient hardware.

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here you go

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๐Ÿ™‚

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also heard much much issues with valorant

calm reef
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nice

fleet widget
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@halcyon fossil i did do some research into it and the del mar is most likely a quest succesor and the jedi controllers seem to just be the controllers for it. the only imputs i saw seem to be the same inputs youd get on the current controller, so I dont think its going to be a big improvement in that field. just that they will work with the quest as well.

halcyon fossil
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

calm reef
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Controllers will have about same layout

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I hear rumors that like quest you can use standalone or with pc, 90hz stand-alone, 120hz with pc

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Looks like it might have a slimmer design than quest

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It seems it is not meant to replace the current headsets but put a higher end option out there on the oculus side of things

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Looks interesting

halcyon fossil
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if its that, im selling my rift s and getting it

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#OculusGang

fallen lance
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WHAT

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Bro sell me your rift s

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they're out of stock everywhere

halcyon fossil
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lol

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im probably not gonna get the new headset tbh... i relatively just got my rift s

fallen lance
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lmao

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I was trying to get a VR headset but they're out of stock

autumn dragon
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REE

fallen lance
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me too

gusty crown
tropic forge
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How is the occulus rift and rift s sold out every where? I mean I get people are bored but damn. Any one have any luck finding one aside from over priced used eBay's.

halcyon fossil
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@tropic forge pandemic shuts down factories

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no headsets are being made

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half life alyx made everybody get a headset

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then they are all gone

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since everybody bought one

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theyre gonna be out of stock for a bit

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you can get a Rift refurbished for $300, but the rift s is much much much better.

tropic forge
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Yeaaa, I definitely want to rift s over the rift. That's unfortunate but also makes alot of sense.

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The*

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Well in a few months I guess.

tacit cairn
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Really gonna suck. I just built my new pc about a month ago, and I was so excited for VR, but they've been sold out everywhere

stable sigil
#

oof I hate rust hackers

full wing
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Oculus quest and virtual desktop is god

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All I use

stable sigil
#

GTA V Free on Epic Games store in 1 hour

celest wren
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yep

quasi jackal
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Wait what

celest wren
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2 mins

quasi jackal
#

epic games laucher keeps saying a error has occured and i cant get in tf

celest wren
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its still loading for me

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its downloading

quasi jackal
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ok so so many people are downloading epic games laucher, the servers crashed

twin swift
#

When you get Valorant but your PC is to old to run it. ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ

stable sigil
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Yeah @quasi jackal same

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my friend got it

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imma just wait a bit

quasi jackal
#

the game is free until may 21st so thats some good news

stable sigil
#

does that mean if you download before then u have forever

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or is it free trial

quasi jackal
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epic games said on twitter they are gonna make a update when they are able to "actively work to scale"

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yeah u doownload it u get it for free and keep it forever

stable sigil
#

oof

quasi jackal
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beeg oof

stable sigil
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store is up now

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nooo it crashed again

quasi jackal
#

i guess all we can do now is wait to see what they do

calm reef
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i'd say wait a while like an hr or something and let them sort out issue

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don't want to keep putting stress on there servers

stable sigil
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Yeah

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It worked for a second

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And then broke again

keen ivy
#

I was told Zack is one of the best people to talk to about VR, is he on?

calm reef
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doesn't seem he is online right now, usually would be soon

keen ivy
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OK, I was just looking into getting VR and wanted to know if there's a system that would allow local multiplayer

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I will check back in an hour or 2, thanks for the response notGhost

calm reef
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k np

warm belfry
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just ping him a bunch

calm reef
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@halcyon fossil ping

halcyon fossil
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๐Ÿ˜

calm reef
warm belfry
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see look

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there he is

calm reef
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magic!

glad urchin
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Your good at the trick ghost. You should teach it to me some time

calm reef
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yes i am very good at teaching the tricks of the magic

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anyway, hmmm. local multiplayer. the only examples of local multiplayer i've seen required multiple pcs and headsets, but i've seen some places that use only 4 sensors for all headsets(although that is custom software i think). there are some games that is like one person goes in vr and the other goes on the pc and play together

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idk much about it tho ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

keen ivy
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Zack, are you available to voice?

silent valve
keen ivy
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I seems Zack is tied up, is there anyone else who knows VR system requirements and Headset comparisons pretty well?

cunning shard
keen ivy
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!rank

raw nicheBOT
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XMARK6 JusticeB, this command is disabled in this channel

fleet widget
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you cant really do local multiplayer with VR outside of having 2 PCs with 2 VR headsets (Or 2 quests to play without PCs) and 2 copies of the game. If you get 2, you can play multiplayer in the same room if you wanted.

halcyon fossil
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theres also asymetric multiplayer like Takelings: House Party or Keep Talking and Nobody Dies

fleet widget
#

oh yeah i forgot about those

full wing
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Anyone excited for quest 2? ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿฝ

halcyon fossil
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hopefully it is what i hope it is

silent valve
manic mural
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Nice

keen ivy
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I was playing on a OC Quest and thought it was neat but was wanting to do local multiplayer, is 2 OC Quests best or can I do 2 headsets with OC Rift, or would a console be better?

halcyon fossil
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All VR games that are multiplayer are online (to the best of my knowledge)

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what exactly do you mean by local multiplayer?

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like, two people, two headsets?

keen ivy
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same location

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I want to do VR with my son

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2 people, same time, same game, in same room

halcyon fossil
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Two PCs and two PC VR headsets would be optimal, as anybody who wants to play can sign in to SteamVR or Oculus much easier than on a Quest, but if you are wanting to just do it with your son, and you plan on having one quest for each person and only them, then quests are fine

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i dont like the Oculus quest that much, but it doesnt require a PC and if you plan on getting two then it will be much cheaper

keen ivy
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I also don't want to spend a whole bunch, and I'm pretty sure 2 OC quests would do it, but what is real different to Rift?

halcyon fossil
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The Rift S has a better screen, the software is better, you do not have to charge the headset to use it, you have access to the entirety of the SteamVR library, and with a good PC graphics are much better.

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oh also the tracking is better and its more comfortable imo.

keen ivy
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so I've watched a bunch of vids about VR setups, but they don't seem to mention much on same location, I guess that's kind of going away

halcyon fossil
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the oculus quest does have hardware based IPD adjustment, so that might be a plus, however the Rift S covers most common IPDs so it should not be a problem

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yeah

keen ivy
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IPD?

halcyon fossil
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the distance between your two pupils

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inter-pupulatory distance

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i cant spell that word

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oh well

keen ivy
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all good, I understand what IDP is!

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sorry, IPD, lol

halcyon fossil
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lol

keen ivy
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i bet it's pupilatory, like pupils

halcyon fossil
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yeah

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but anyways

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as long as both you and your sons pupil distance are not super short or super wide, then the RIft S will not be a problem

keen ivy
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I've heard an issue with rift is you have to be wired...t or f?

halcyon fossil
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everything you need for the Oculus Quest is built into the headset, for the Rift S you need a PC to power it. The PC handles the graphics, the headset gets information based on rotation of your head, where you are, etc.

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thats why the Rift S has a cable

keen ivy
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and, for 2 rift Ss, that would require 2 VR level PCs?

halcyon fossil
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yes

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price of two Quests would be $800, price of two RIft S's would be $800 + the cost of two VR Ready PCs

keen ivy
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so that about doubling the cost

halcyon fossil
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yeah

keen ivy
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someone said you might be able to use single VR PC with custom setup enabling multiple headsets, never heard of nything like that?

halcyon fossil
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i havent, but that would not be a good idea anyways. One VR headset on a PC is taxing enough

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plus for games you couldnt do two log ins for different accounts at once

silent valve
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think of it this way, each headset is 2 screens with high refresh rates, so that's 4 screens trying to render a game at 90+FPS

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that's a lot for a single GPU

halcyon fossil
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rift s is actually one screen lol

silent valve
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Oh well then I'll go back to my NMS

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lol

halcyon fossil
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haha

silent valve
halcyon fossil
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it might be possible... but its more trouble than its worth

keen ivy
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are there any you tube videos with side by side of same game on Quest as Rift S?

halcyon fossil
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youtube videos wont show anything

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you need to try the headsets for yourself to see the difference

keen ivy
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How can I try Rift now? Am I stuck until Best Buys open again?

halcyon fossil
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ill try my best to explain some key differences
the Oculus Quest can only play games from the Oculus store that are Quest Compatible. The hardware in the headset is not very powerful as it is a mobile chip, so graphics wont be as nice as on a PC VR system. The Oculus Quest can play PCVR games with a special cable, but that defeats the purpose because you would still need a VR ready PC to play those games with the nicer graphics. The Rift S can play any VR game available (that isnt a Quest Exclusive). With the Rift S you can purchase games on Steam which is compatible with every headset should you ever decide to upgrade to a different headset that isnt Oculus.

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Also yeah, gotta wait till best buy opens

keen ivy
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So, if it was up to you and money was no object(unfortunately for me it is) you'd go with 2 Rift Ss over PS4 VR or any other setup? I also hears of one that starts with a V I think, and VR was supposed to be better, but not much content

halcyon fossil
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PS4 VR is not good

keen ivy
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HTC Vive...was that it?

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or Valve Index?

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have you tried those?

halcyon fossil
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and yes, I would go with two Rift Ss over two Oculus Quests, but for your situation, i think the Oculus Quest would be the best choice as it saves a lot of money and do not require cables or anything.

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The HTC Vive requires a PC, is outdated, and overpriced. And the Valve Index costs $1000 on top fo the cost of a VR Ready PC.

keen ivy
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HTC Cosmos, that is newer release

halcyon fossil
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Costs $600 (or $700 idk), has bad tracking, and you need a VR ready pc.

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also the controllers are kinda meh

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of all of the VR headsets I know of, the Oculus Quest would be the best choice for you.

keen ivy
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Ok, to put a penny out there for your thoughts, I always shop and shop till I can find what I feel is great deal, you gonna be on for a bit so I can switch PCs? I was just gonna see what your VR build would be, I saw someone earlier say a "best" PC build would be $800, but the GTX20** are usually priced upwards of $300

halcyon fossil
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a good PC VR pc would be at least $600, and even that is cutting it close. Double that for two setups, thats $1200, plus the cost of two Rift S's, that would be $2000.

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and that $600 would be going with older generation / possibly used parts

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plus you need monitors, keyboard, mice for both PCs, plus a place to put them, and space for each VR setup. Its not a good idea to have two people in VR right next to eachother because the headsets might get confused on which controllers are which, also you wander around in VR without even knowing it so you dont want to hit the other person.

keen ivy
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aye, so background, also my epic is loading GTA5 on the other PC, is that gonna eat up my 1.5 MBps connection to prevent much other use...I.E. should I pause it?

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back ground, my son, Gabriel(12 yo)'s friend brought over an OC quest and i was talking to his father and he said his son wanted to get the rift because he couldn't play some game, that's what's giving me concern on 2 Quests

halcyon fossil
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oculus quest hardware is limited

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its not very powerful compared to what a good PC can offer

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games like Half Life Alyx for example require a PC because it simply cannot run on the Quest due to hardware limitations

silent valve
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or things like No Man's Sky VR or Subnautica VR, definitely need a PC for those

keen ivy
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I could really afford 2 complete VR setups and already have enough monitors/KB and such, I would really just like to see if differnce would justify cost

halcyon fossil
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the oculus quest can play pc vr games anyways, over a special cable, so if you decide later that you wanna play games only available on PC, then you can buy that.

keen ivy
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obviously cost is relative, but how much space would be required for 2 Rift S systems?

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I.E. could i run a couple extension cords and play in the yard, lol?

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Deference to rain of course!

halcyon fossil
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vr headsets dont like extension cables

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oculus quest has no cables

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you can play it outside if you want to

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but dont expose the lenses to sunlight, youll burn the screen,

keen ivy
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Someone said you could do custom setup and create Wireless for Rift S...T or F?

halcyon fossil
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not with the rift s

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that would still require a PC btw, plus the theoretical adapter for that costs $300, so double that for two headsets, that adds $600 to the cost.

keen ivy
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Can you tell me a little about the way you do VR?

tulip sun
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Only full on pc vr headset that i know can do wireless is vive

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If you buy the addon

halcyon fossil
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i think the index and cosmos can do it too

tulip sun
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Index with the vive addon?

halcyon fossil
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nvm not index

keen ivy
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But those are still sub Par compared to Rift S?

halcyon fossil
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but cosmos for usre

tulip sun
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Im sure cosmos can do it

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No theyre not.

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Theyre not as good for price per performance

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Rift s is best value for pc vr rn

keen ivy
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Is there much Pg-13 or lower Games on Epic or Steam?

halcyon fossil
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all multiplayer vr games will have people yelling bad words into the mic

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and doing bad things

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spend 5 minutes in VRChat, youll know what i mean.

keen ivy
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I was playing the Star Wars game on the quest and it was super cool walking around the Galactic space ship, that's what got me interested in VR

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Zack, can you tell me about yourself?

halcyon fossil
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what would you like to know?

keen ivy
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The language thing I get, unfortunately even my 12 YO son's friends talk like sailors lol

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You have any kids?

tulip sun
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Yikes

halcyon fossil
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LOL

keen ivy
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I'd like to know how old you are, but I know a lot of people don't like to share that

tulip sun
#

This conversation flipped 180ยฐ

halcyon fossil
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im not legally allowed to drink ๐Ÿ™‚

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if that helps clarify

keen ivy
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Yeah, that's good, more interested in knowing how much life experience you have to reference from lol

tulip sun
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That doesnt factor into vr experience

keen ivy
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So that tells me a bit, ha ha

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Right, but in refence to my inital questions it does play a part

tulip sun
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If you say so

keen ivy
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I wasn't trying to cause offense, but the world does change on budget and problem solving when children are added to the equation

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I'm trying to figure what VR setup would work best for me and my son to play together, but sound like there may not be an idel setup that would work, when Iwas younger the online multiplayer didn't exist, me and my friends would be in same laction playing games on same console, now except for ZNintendo, that's kind of going away

tulip sun
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Q u e s t

keen ivy
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I'm thinking that might be best option, just not optimal, lol

halcyon fossil
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multiplayer is all online now, you can still play with your son, you just have to send him a friend request through the software

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you can be in the same room too if you want

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although its not a good idea with VR as you dont want to accidentally hit your son, also the headset might get confused with all the controllers

keen ivy
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I.E. play in 2 different rooms?

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I have him use his own money for some stuff, but he got the EA annual pass for his XBOX and then I would have to create another account and pay again to get it on my PC

halcyon fossil
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that would be the best choice, as you do not have to worry about hitting eachother/running into eachother and the headsets will not get confused with all the controllers

keen ivy
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And you said you can do PC games using the Quest?

tulip sun
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If you get the cable

keen ivy
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ANd it would need to be VR compatible PC?

tulip sun
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A vr capable pc

keen ivy
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OK, so I was already looking at doing a PC Build and getting a Laptop fpor Gaming, What is minimum Processor and Video Card requirements for that?

tulip sun
keen ivy
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I had already ordered a Ryzen 5 1600 and a GTX 1050 Ti with 16 GB of Ram, would that be sufficient for good game play?

halcyon fossil
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not really

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how much did you pay

keen ivy
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Cuz I can still return them if needed

tulip sun
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Gpu will need to be beefier

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I have a r5 3600x and a 2070

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Vr runs great

keen ivy
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Way too much, lol, I paid 140 for the processor and then saw it 2 days later for $85 on amazon, and paid way too much for Video Card too...$150

tulip sun
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Id do atleast a 1060

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But i used to do a 1070 with minimal issues before the 2070

halcyon fossil
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yeah, thats a bit too much imo

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processor should be around that $85 price mark

tulip sun
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85 for a 3600 tho?

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Oh wait

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1600

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Lol i cant read

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Yeah the 3600x is 180

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So a 1600 for 140 is way too much

halcyon fossil
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ryzen 1600 is VR Ready, but i encourage you to return it and get it for $85 instead

tulip sun
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Or get a better cpu

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For 140

keen ivy
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Yeah, and Amazon price on that processor jumped 2 days later, now I can't find it cheaper then what I paid

tulip sun
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Or take the money and get a better gpu

halcyon fossil
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also for $150 you could get a RX480 or an rx580 used/refurbished on Ebay which will provide much better performance than the 1050ti

keen ivy
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I also have this PC that has a DX 10 Card so was looking to upgrade that one, but it's ancient and only has dual PCIe 2.0 x16 slots

halcyon fossil
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that would not suffice for vr

keen ivy
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and I bought the 1050 for $150, but found bettter ones on Ebay for like $70

halcyon fossil
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1050ti isnt VR ready

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despite what websites tell you

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i used a 1050ti for VR for awhile, it could barely handle beat saber which is an easy to run VR game.

keen ivy
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is the RX AMD or Nvidea?

tulip sun
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Amd

halcyon fossil
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amd

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full name would be AMD Radeon RX580, but people shorten it to rx580

silent valve
keen ivy
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Naed recommended 4GB minimum for gaming and said, even though my MB only supports DDR3 Memory I could use DDR5 memory in the PCIe slots without issue

tulip sun
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Hold up

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We gotta back up here

halcyon fossil
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i think you might have misheard him

tulip sun
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Ddr3 is referring to the ram

halcyon fossil
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that would not work at all

silent valve
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DDR and GDDR are not the same thing

tulip sun
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Gddr

keen ivy
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DDR5 on video Card

silent valve
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GDDR5

tulip sun
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Thats not how it works

silent valve
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G

tulip sun
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Ddr3 is not gddr

silent valve
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not the same thing

halcyon fossil
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gddr5 (graphics ddr)

tulip sun
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Your mobo supports ddr3 RAM

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it can use graphics ddr5

silent valve
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GDDR and HBM are for GPUs and have nothing to do with what DDR you MB can use

keen ivy
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yes, I built it like 15 years ago but still outplays new Laptops with i7 and Nvidea discrete so I wanted to se how long I could keep it going

tulip sun
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That is not outperforming a modern laptop

silent valve
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if by modern laptop you mean a celeron and a 1030, sure

keen ivy
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Also, I wanted to use an mSata SSD from a laptop I'm no longer using, and ordered adapter to go into Mini PCIe slot, that should be OK yes?

tulip sun
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Not an i7 with nvidia discrete graphics

keen ivy
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I had an Dell XPS that was few years old with that SSD and it was way slower, so I don't know

silent valve
tulip sun
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When did theycadd basebuilding

keen ivy
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it was i7 6670 and not sure of GPU, but I could find it

tulip sun
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Thats not a new laptop

silent valve
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base building was the 1st update almost 4 years ago XD

tulip sun
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Ah i dont own nms and dont keep up with it

silent valve
tulip sun
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Nice

keen ivy
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sorry, not new, I meant "newer?

tulip sun
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I should get it

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it looks so good now

silent valve
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OMG NMS is sooo much better, it's like FO76 if they did everything the opposite

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lol

tulip sun
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Im installimg fo76 lmao

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Free weekend

silent valve
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I got NMS for $5, best investment in my entertainment 3.5 years later XD

tulip sun
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I will get it on a sale

silent valve
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finding an "earth-like" with green grass and blue sky was a pain XD

tulip sun
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Lol

silent valve
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all week I haven't shut up about the game and people keep wanting to know what it is so they can play XD

keen ivy
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on my new build I got this MB, could you make a recommendation on what processor I should get for it to do VR?

tulip sun
keen ivy
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You said you play well with Ryzen 5 3600?

halcyon fossil
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any ryzen 5 model will be fine with vr

keen ivy
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what's the difference on the 3600x vs 3600?

halcyon fossil
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3600x has a better stock cooler and very slightly faster speeds

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if its like $20-30 more id go for it

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anything above that meh

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$40 maaaybe

keen ivy
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i5 8400 is about same price as regular r5 3600, AMD is better at this price point?

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a little less than $20 difference for x version

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on Laptop side is this one Sufficient for good VR?

silent valve
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do you already have the board?

keen ivy
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Yes, but can return it

silent valve
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cause you can't use intel CPUs in an AMD board

keen ivy
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I know

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You think the i5 is better?

silent valve
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no, it's considerably worse overall

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6core/6thread i5 vs 6Core/12Thread R5

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you can do a lot more with the R5

keen ivy
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It sounds like 2 OC Quests will be solution on VR side, but am still going to build another PC for my living room and want to make sure it will be VR ready, and I like my builds to me semi future proof

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*to be

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Think the r5 3600x for 200 would be best for my $?

silent valve
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IMO, yes

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it comes with it's own cooler, you'd have to buy one for the i5 or use that crappy stock it comes with

keen ivy
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I understand, any idea why the r5 1600 was so frowned upon, especially if I was ablle to get it for $85, it seems clock speed was about the same as 3600

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unfortunately now ity's over$150 so wouldn't be much more for the slight increase in speed

silent valve
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same clock speed doesn't mean same performance, there was a huge IPC gain on 3rd gen, and a node shrink

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it's far more powerful, runs cooler, and is more energy efficient

keen ivy
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Ahh, nanometer size, less power, was Cache increased?

silent valve
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entire architecture was changed

keen ivy
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ur name has R7 3700X, I'm guessing that's CPU you have, that ones $80 difference, would that be worth it? and I think it will work in board I ordered

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r5-r7-r9 is that mainly cache size different if same generation? i know in Intel chipos the model #s refence generation, is that true for AMD as well? I.E. r5 1600 is 1st gen, 3600 is 3rd gen?

silent valve
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while it is nice to have, the use cases for NEEDING the Ryzen 7 3700X are pretty slim, only a few games are fully multithreaded, and it's more of a content creation kind of CPU

tulip sun
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Yes the 1600 and 3600 are first and third gen

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R5-7-9 have a multitude of differences

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Not just cache size

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R5 3600x is best bet

keen ivy
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What Gen is AMD up to now on Ryzen series?

tulip sun
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3

keen ivy
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Ok, I'm sold on 3600x, I want to be like you, lol!

tulip sun
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Lol why?

keen ivy
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In terms of CPU ownership of course!

tulip sun
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I mean its a very good cpu

keen ivy
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what GPU do you have?

tulip sun
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A 2070

silent valve
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my GPU is not recommended, but I have a Radeon VII

tulip sun
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I would not get a radeon vii at all

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Id go with an nvidia gpu

silent valve
tulip sun
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Poop

keen ivy
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what would be most comparable Nvidea card to what you have? I'm looking at them now, there's huge price discrepancy when you get to the on some of them, what's difference between RTX and GTX series?

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is RTX new 2000 series and GTX is 1000 series?

silent valve
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the 1000 series are 1 gen old

tulip sun
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Its different architecture

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Except 1650 and 1660 series

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The 20 series rtx cards have somethijg called real time ray tracing which is useless

silent valve
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the 1600 series are current but no ray tracing and kinda the lower 1/2 of the line up

tulip sun
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but the 20 series are current

keen ivy
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about what price point would be good?

tulip sun
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Depends on hwo much you wanna spend on a card

silent valve
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the 2000 series have ray tracing and over lap slightly with the 1600 series but go into the high end

keen ivy
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I wanna spend little for a Great Card, so there's RTX2060 for $30 more than GTX 1660 both with 6GB GDDR

silent valve
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they are almost the same performance, except the 2060 has ray tracing, but it also depends what sku you are taking about

keen ivy
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at about $300

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I'm looking at Amazon, maybe I'll look at NewEgg so i can do the compare option

silent valve
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there is the 1660, the 1660 Ti, 1660 Super, 2060, 2060 Super

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confusing, but blame Nvidia

silent valve
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ok 1660 Super

silent valve
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they are near identical performance with the Ti being SLIIIGHTLY better

keen ivy
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All +/- $15

silent valve
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the 2060 (non Super) has the best performance out of all of them you posted

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the 2060 Super would be the best of that line, but for more

keen ivy
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think approx $300 is about range I should be looking in?

silent valve
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depends on the game and the quality you want

keen ivy
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That's where I don't know, I started this whole process cuz the chip in this ancient PC is only DirectX 10 and I started downloading some of the Free Games that started coming out as a result of the Covid pandemic and it couldn't play them...the game your posting...could I play that with the 2060 card?

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I'd hate to return the stuff I've already decided too, order new stuff and be disappointed with Lag

silent valve
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well I don't know exactly how demanding the games are in VR

keen ivy
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Unfortunately I'm clueless too, maybe it'd be worth talking to Oculus, if possible, and see if they have some helpful info

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The NMS, what game is that? It looks cool!

silent valve
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No Man's Sky

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it was crap on release, but it's gotten a lot of updates

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basically you explore the universe traveling hundreds of thousands of lightyears where you can explore, adventure, fight, or whatever you want.

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you can pick a planet to settle down on and build a base, or you can have a mobile base in a capital ship

keen ivy
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watching some vids on it now!

silent valve
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there are a lot of things to get used to and learn, and it took me several attempts to really learn everything and "get good"

keen ivy
silent valve
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yea that's a good overview of all the content that was added

keen ivy
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Watching this one now, can you do VR with this? That would be AWESOME!

silent valve
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yes, you can

keen ivy
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Of course it needs Rift, lol

silent valve
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totes recommend the game if you'd like a space exploration survival game

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it's like the largest MMO you can imagine, except you can also play it completely single player XD

keen ivy
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what's XD?

silent valve
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๐Ÿคฃ

keen ivy
#

was that a meme?

silent valve
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it's an emoji

keen ivy
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Like a face?

silent valve
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yes

keen ivy
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OK, glad i asked when no one else was around lol

silent valve
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it's OK, everyone has a Boomer moment now and then

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So happy with all the updates to NMS, it really is enjoyable to play

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well, I'm off to bed, it's 4:30 AM

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take care

keen ivy
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You too, Thanks for the help tonight!

silent valve
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no problem

keen ivy
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GN

stable sigil
#

dang you were up late

manic mural
frosty forge
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does any one of ya'll think about quitting video games forever?

celest wren
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nope

silent valve
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nope cause I'm an adult and I can choose how I spend my free time

burnt atlas
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i personally dont game a fraction of the time that i used to

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but i doubt that i would ever completely stop playing games

manic mural
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at some point

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maybe

azure bolt
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I am really enjoying HL:alyx, but the game still makes me feel sick. I have noticed that it seams to not bother me as much with the feeling of sea sickness if I play something like Beat saber for about 10 minutes after I stop.

glad urchin
#

Yikes. That sounds like it takes the fun outta it

harsh mica
spark frost
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What should be my first be game

halcyon fossil
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portal 2

rugged sparrow
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hey i have an asrock amd 5700 rx xt gpu, with a 450mac mobo... is there any way to universally force any app regardless if its a game or an prductive app. to be in windowed.
theres a game i want to try https://store.steampowered.com/app/327650/Mays_Mysteries_The_Secret_of_Dragonville/
and everyti8me i try to load it, it forces itself in a ful screen mode, which only loads a black screen and music in the background
Steam

Please Note: This is not a 'new release' but a first release on Steam. The original PC version of May's Mysteries was available in 2012 but was never released on Steam, this is the Steam release of that same game.May's Mysteries: The Secret Of Dragonville is an exciting puzzle...

Price

$9.99

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glad urchin
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Idk sometimes f11 does it

calm reef
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Overwatch ftw

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Actually

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Osu! Ftw

daring sleet
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Would I have a better experience with a Oculus Rift S paired with a GTX 1050 TI, or a Oculus quest, with notably lower graphics, but I would be able to use it away from my computer (a huge plus for me)?

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Cause I sort of want both.

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Like with the Rift-S, I can use all my current steam games with it, whereas the Quest is limited to the Oculus store.

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And I can't do oculus link cause I don't have a type-C connector on my PC :(

halcyon fossil
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@daring sleet oculus link works with USB 2.0 now, the feature is in beta

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also the 1050ti wont give high fps so it will not look so great

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quest wont either, but likeeeee

daring sleet
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yea

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I'm just trying to figure out if I would be greatly disappointed by the graphics quality/low screen refresh rate of the quest

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which tbh when I had my original rift it was very meh

halcyon fossil
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do you still have your og rift

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OOOHHHH

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@raven flame

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COMING SOON

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NOW IS TIME TIME

fleet widget
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OOO:

halcyon fossil
raven flame
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Finally I can vr chat

halcyon fossil
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nevermind dont buy it

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๐Ÿ™‚

fleet widget
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why

halcyon fossil
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was a joke because forks would use it for vrchat

fleet widget
#

i literally saw you get on vr chat last night wuuut

halcyon fossil
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was testing something out with kinect and full body tracking

gilded lion
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riiiiiiiiiight

halcyon fossil
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then i realized i didnt have a kenict to usb adapter

fleet widget
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mhmm. sure

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its ok to like vr chat zack Squirtlederp

halcyon fossil
#

no.

fleet widget
halcyon fossil
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no.

fleet widget
#

im kinda worried tho cause if i buy a rift s now and then the next best thing comes in only a couple months ima be upset lol

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๐Ÿ˜‚

calm reef
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Wait

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You can use Kinect for full body?

raven flame
#

Can buy a kinect -> usb adapter real cheap

calm reef
#

Way back when I was playing with my Xbox 360 Kinect sensor and my pc

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It was cool

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When I get vr I am trying this

sick crypt
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@harsh mica nice aim but that name doe

harsh mica
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@sick crypt I made it when I was 12, like 6 years ago and I just havent changed it to something reasonable yet xD

amber abyss
#

Minecraft with RTX enabled is officially what I am using to justify spending so much money on a gaming PC

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Just needed to put that out there

untold leaf
#

A free game on steam right now, it also has a VR version, it's chess, but bigger and different

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It's called Four Kings One War

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It's 100% free, so grab it whilst ya can, it won't hurt or cost ya anything

calm reef
#

finally got to work

tulip sun
#

@manic mural did you see the R6 reveal today?

manic mural
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yea

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house is wacky now

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gotta test it tomorrow

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did you?

tulip sun
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i did watch it!

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im gonna download the test server to try out

manic mural
#

@tulip sun new season is on test server tomorrow btw

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not today

tulip sun
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I know

manic mural
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yea

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updates gonna come out tomorrow

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its gonna be fun

tulip sun
#

yeah hopefully

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it looks promising

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house will be cool too

manic mural
#

ya

tulip sun
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yikes

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i have no want to go to plat anymore even

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i wanna hang around silver/gold

manic mural
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lol

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someone I know whos usually plat is in silver rn, but gets placed with us plats in cassual I think because of kd

tulip sun
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lol nice

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i hate playing in high ranks

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its not fun anymore

manic mural
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eh