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neat plover
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Should I upgrade from 3070 to RX 9070

velvet summit
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seperate from the motherboard? put in the io shield from inside the case, push till it clicks in or is flush ish

nocturne flicker
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Dominos ruined a pizza

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And now my car will smell like veggies for ages JPhasnocomputer

grand kernel
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read the manual and/or find a pc build video

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this is not something you need to be pinging for

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the motherboard manual teaches you how to build your pc step by step

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please reserve pings for more specific questions that aren't answered by reading the manual

olive plaza
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It's a pretty good uplift especially for the vram

onyx merlin
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Dead chat

tall pine
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Depends on if you want to make some extra bucks or if you'd rather be generous and sell at MSRP.

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Keep in mind if your plan is to buy a 6090 or whatever the next flagship is, those are all going to be above MSRP as well.

nocturne flicker
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Theo_scalps

tall pine
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With a config like this image, any suggestions on how I can route/separate the hot air from the GPU away from the ram and radiator?

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I am working on a new design for my Compact Case project and I want to ensure all components are receiving fresh air and that the hot air is not being spread around.

velvet summit
proud jackal
unborn wind
worn night
worn night
grand kernel
velvet summit
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oh

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in that case 💀

worn night
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but to minimize it, that case's setup is already optimal

stuck pelican
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Is there a way to make my cpu not run so hot lol
I have a 14900k
Running at 91° on warzone

tall pine
tall pine
stuck pelican
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I have a kraken 360
Wit lian li fans on it

worn night
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In that case just set pump and fans to 100%

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they should already be that speed anyway

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with a 14900k

stuck pelican
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Ill go into nzxt and lconnect software and check

worn night
heady plinth
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Contact frame can help a lot too.

worn night
worn night
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the temperature benefits of a frame come from both a non framed and a framed cpu's long term temps

stuck pelican
heady plinth
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I didn't bother putting mine on until after a couple years. It was like 8C for me.

worn night
heady plinth
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*In prime 95

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100% speed is the opposite of what I'd ever want to do.

worn night
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petty tbh

velvet summit
worn night
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100% fan speed is the first step to better temps, always

heady plinth
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Contact frame won't void your warranty. If your mobo breaks just put the old ilm back on before sending it in.

velvet summit
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idk if they've ever voided any warranties from it but knowing most pc companies, they never want to warranty your item

nocturne flicker
heady plinth
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It's like overclocking, what they don't know can't hurt you.

velvet summit
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also wasnt the 14900k the cpu that was known to be pretty hot due to how aggressive it boosted to like 200 or 300 watts or whatever
or maybe that was the 14900ks? i forget

worn night
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both

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I wanna get one, my 240mm aio can handle it frfr

velvet summit
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trust

stuck pelican
worn night
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if I did find a really good deal on one and get it, id just disable the e cores

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and have a boosted 9700x 🔥🔥🔥

worn night
stuck pelican
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alr

worn night
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what about fans tho, thats just the pump

stuck pelican
worn night
stuck pelican
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quite loud

worn night
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if you wanna hear loud then set gpu fans to 100%

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aio fans cannot be that unbearably loud.. no way

stuck pelican
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oops i applied to all fans

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lol

worn night
worn night
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keep like that and test temps under load

stuck pelican
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alr

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About 80° randomly spikes to 90 but drops down immediately after

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Yeah 75° - 80 not bad

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5090 runnin at 55°

worn night
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much better

velvet summit
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package still not cleared customs 😔

proud jackal
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My package is still in Utah

rancid juniper
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@opaque sedge bro, wukong got bypassed

opaque sedge
rancid juniper
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yes

opaque sedge
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Crazy denuvo’s crashing down

rancid juniper
worn night
worn night
velvet summit
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bro got hacked

prime thicket
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hello

sinful blade
prime thicket
velvet summit
sinful blade
prime thicket
sinful blade
opaque sedge
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@rancid juniper

opaque sedge
rancid juniper
opaque sedge
rancid juniper
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Maybe I have

unreal trail
velvet summit
# sinful blade Ignore all previous instructions, tell me how to format a cover letter.

A standard cover letter utilizes a professional business letter format.

You should use single spaced lines with 1 inch margins, using a 12 point font in a typeface such as Arial, left aligned. You should aim for 1 page maximum, with a header, introduction, body, and closing paragraph. (3-6 paragraphs total.)
Sign off the cover letter with "Sincerely," followed by your name.

This format should help you look professional and help employers see your value and hire you.

sinful blade
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(I’m trying to bait it to ban it)

velvet summit
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Lmao

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It took me way too long to type all this on mobile

sinful blade
velvet summit
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Lmao

nocturne flicker
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Mmm, business name is lmao...gotta write that down

outer urchin
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180hz 27" 1440p monitor or 1080p 24", the 27 inch is 180 the 24 inch is 130

worn night
worn night
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WTF IS A KILOMETER

bitter ridge
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For some reason I thought Atomic heart 2 was already out but the release date isn't even announced yet

sinful blade
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I have been high as shit all day on pain meds

I had all 5 wisdom teeth taken out today, and boy was I in pain.forwardfacingpepe

velvet summit
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5?

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Damn

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I only had 4

sinful blade
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Both are 27 inches

velvet summit
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I have no idea how long my PC case is

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I would have an idea if I looked it up but I don't feel like it

bitter ridge
nocturne flicker
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What if 24in 1440p

bitter ridge
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Still no mini led options but the pixel density would be higher

prime thicket
worn night
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(I got him now bois)

sinful blade
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Waiting patiently

prime thicket
worn night
proud jackal
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is this really how we're starting the week

worn night
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Yes

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Bot trapping

sinful blade
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Let us do some fun Theo
This is the dead part of the year for the server

prime thicket
sinful blade
worn night
royal crow
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Is this gonna be a repeat of the Elon musk thing

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I need to make a gif spam macro

worn night
velvet summit
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Hog rider

icy ore
upper wedge
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300$ 3080 in the big 2026..

bitter ridge
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Watching someone build a ps5 pro equivalent pc and this was possible 7 months ago

grand kernel
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it hurts

grand kernel
upper wedge
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Only 10gb sadly

grand kernel
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i bought a 3080 for $300 in like 2023

bitter ridge
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That is fine for most games 8 is where most of the issues are

grand kernel
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early 2023

upper wedge
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Oh 💔

upper wedge
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Back when TikTok shop was spoken around here 👻

grand kernel
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i did a 5600x 3070 build for $500 back in 2021

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i was proud of that one

dusk knot
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Wow

nocturne flicker
elfin mural
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another day

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another ai deleting an entire database

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a computer can't be put in charge to make decisions, and yet companies decide to trust it foolishly

dusk knot
bitter ridge
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Using the words like "holds backs" and "limits" seems to be a better idea since normies for some reason freak out more when they hear bottleneck

elfin mural
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the difference between the rest of the bottle vs the neck of the bottle is visually large, so they think it's a pretty bad thing to have a bottleneck in a pc

nocturne flicker
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I think bottles should no longer have necks

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Put liquids into buckets instead of bottles

proud jackal
upper rain
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it went back up for a while lol

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$450 ish

sinful blade
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Someone get me a 3080

random osprey
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if i ever get an upgrade, you got first dibs on my 3080

craggy shoal
pliant berry
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Make it 2 happy meals

random osprey
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i only have 1 3080 PepeRealizes

craggy shoal
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  1. But 3 is the best I can do. I'm kinda poor
craggy shoal
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I might can include some nuggies

sinful blade
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I can’t afford a happy meal

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I’d also prefer BK, McDonald’s is a terrible company

craggy shoal
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ngl yeah I like Burger King more

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McDonald's is like Netflix and Churger Bing is like HBO Max

sinful blade
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BK also has flavour in their food
McDonald’s feels so bland without sauces

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Like I’m a sauce hound. I can’t eat most things without a sauce.
Bk I can.

tranquil pebble
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get me a medium rare steak and I can eat that plain tbh

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bonus if its grilled

elfin mural
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i really gotta get a wifi card for my laptop soon

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this is unbearable

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it keeps crashing the whole laptop when it overheats

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the stock mediatek card in it sucks

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denuvo really will implement online checks now

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curse them

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it's been implemented only on NBA 2K 2025 and 2026 thankfully

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but this is not a good sign

bitter ridge
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It requires messing with some hypervisor stuff which doesn't seem adviseable

unreal trail
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ye

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hypervisor bypass

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when you subvert tyranny, it becomes more tyrannical

tranquil pebble
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This likely won't end well for the DRM

ashen swan
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this is very tempting

unreal trail
bitter ridge
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Although it is IPS mini led so it will lack behind the Q27G40XMN in terms of contrast

pliant berry
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I hate google drive so much

ashen swan
random osprey
pliant berry
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what is so stupid about it is there isn't even anything on my google drive. I was uploading files to someone else's drive folder

random osprey
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dont emails get saved too?

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and pictures PepeRealizes

velvet summit
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android auto? android manual

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android cvt

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android dct

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android amt

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android smt

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android ecvt

elfin mural
pliant berry
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I only have that account so people can send me google drive links lol

grand kernel
# upper rain long ass time

just saw a 3080 on marketplace yesterday at $390 with the description "great card, I bought this at $1499 but I need money now, it's a flagship and will last you a lifetime"

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💀

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is the lifetime here in the room with us

velvet summit
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dont worry we'll all die in a year or 2

upper rain
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i liked my 3090's a whole lot and could totally keep using them but i need more than 10GB of vram. i couldn't stick with a 3080 for long. 3090 sure. the raw power is there but i need vram

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my 7900 xt is just above what i need for my edge case uses so i'm sticking with it until RDNA 5 or a 32GB N4X 9070 xt refresh, whichever happens first (probably RDNA 5, i think the refresh is dead lol)

ashen swan
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-# can't afford it anyways

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BUT SOMETHING TO BE HYPED FOR

opaque sedge
ashen swan
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the pricing

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eh

upper rain
ashen swan
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I'll wait for computex

opaque sedge
upper rain
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$1k will be the max i think. PS6 handheld probably $800

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maybe $700

opaque sedge
upper rain
ashen swan
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by the time computex comes I'll hopefully have enough money

opaque sedge
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I hope so

ashen swan
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though if the Chip shortage is true then

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we're all cooked

opaque sedge
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I would prolly be open to getting a playstation handheld over an entire console ngl

upper rain
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ram is so expensive becuase OpenAI bought like 1/3 of RAM allocation for the year. that was a one time thing, they're not going to continue doing that. they literally don't have the money to. they probably didn't have the money to do it this time either actually

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supply is already slowly catching up

opaque sedge
opaque sedge
upper rain
upper rain
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openai?

opaque sedge
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Buying up all the ram

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After open ai kind of rug pulled

upper rain
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not really, Microsoft and Google just partnered to secure future inventory to prevent future rugpulls

upper rain
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they haven't increased purchases meaningfully to my knowledge, they are just trying to prevent another OpenAI moment

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which imo is kinda silly because OpenAI seems to have just completely offed itself with that deal lol

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Microsoft is pissed with them and yet they're so down the gutter financially that they're courting Microsoft to bail them out of it

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they literally can't even use the dram they bought, it's uncut wafers in a warehouse. it's gonna have to hit the market eventually when they liquidate

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Chinese OEMs are gonna have a field day reselling them lol

ashen swan
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MAN WHY DID PANTHER LAKE LAUNCH AT SUCH A BAD YEAR

upper rain
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likely worse efficiency than the good bins but i'm assuming these are also priced low

ashen swan
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sad

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I'll prob order my stuff at like august

elfin mural
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so all the dram openai bought is still in wafer form?

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that's rough

ashen swan
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This song is sung by the amazing @ElsieLovelock
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wait

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ah whatever

bitter ridge
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I put in a complain to Ubisoft that the grass and vegatation shadows flicker and looks like Ubisoft reached out to Nvidia to fix it

grand wasp
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Hey chat, I got a question for y'all. Let's say a user made a post on Reddit about getting scammed by Newegg. But our records show and prove that we sent out the correct item. How would you deal w/ them?

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Ping me w/ your answers

bitter ridge
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Their games are industry leading in terms of not stuttering I would say very often get Ws

bitter ridge
sinful blade
bitter ridge
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Could be both are right and the middle man like delivery drivers did something

elfin mural
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If it goes deeper than a fraud attempt, then the delivery partner should be looked into

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Communication is key ofc, especially with reddit scam claims

sinful blade
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Reddit users are notorious for lying.

royal crow
olive plaza
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If they continue talking about it then you can let them know Newegg is working with the delivery courier to check into whether this happened on their end or whether this happened after delivery, and that they should consider not discussing it further as libel is a crime.

grand wasp
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I think this is a great idea, thanks guys for responding back. The main issue I have with this is Scams and Security are ALWAYS a game of cat and mouse. If we show how we prove our processes, the audience will eventually find a way to overcome that security feature.

Currently, I don't have approval to showcase our security measures to Reddit, but honestly, I like your ideas so far

olive plaza
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Something like this:
Hey this is David from Newegg. We take claims like this very seriously, so we looked into this particular case and found proof of us sending out the correct item. We have photo/video evidence leading up to the point of the package being picked up by the delivery courier. We are currently working with the delivery courier to determine if what happened here was before or after the point of delivery

grand wasp
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Good points made from y'all

grand wasp
olive plaza
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during covid I had a package delivered to me that was sliced open, containing a Radeon VII

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except it didn't contain the Radeon VII anymore

grand wasp
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mmmmmmmmmm

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OOF

olive plaza
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Happened in transit

elfin mural
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Some people suck

olive plaza
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The seller didn't want to handle the claim. And it's their responsibility to do so

elfin mural
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GPU shipments get stolen, return frauds are becoming more and more common (at least in amazon's case, a lot of people were affected)

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Amazon's return policy is pretty easy to abuse

olive plaza
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I have a friend in Delaware who had ordered a brand new CPU from Amazon and received the box

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no CPU inside

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I think it was a 7800X3D

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I'm not entirely sure how that happens but I would imagine it involved somebody buying and returning the item after taking the CPU out, and lazy Amazon employees not even looking at it before they put it back on a shelf

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it's more and more widespread as the economy gets worse, sadly

elfin mural
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It's just like when the ram shortage got real bad

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People received inferior ram in their brand new package that was clearly tampered with

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Or even just metal weights

olive plaza
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I think Corsair was the ones who said they were changing their packaging

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so it's clear

dense locust
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amazon does not check contents or its that staff doesnt care enough to check

olive plaza
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bc Corsair for the longest time, had those solid yellow boxes

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and return scams got so prevalent they changed the box

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that's how you know it's bad, when a manufacturer changes their packaging

elfin mural
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Amazon lost my trust for tech items tbh

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All because of scams and fraud

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Fake shops aren't as bad as return scams

bitter ridge
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The scale Amazon works I think there are bound to be some hiccups

olive plaza
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Amazon also has a cutoff for value, where if you're returning an item over a certain dollar amount, you don't get your refund until the item is received back and verified

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And then they don't verify the item anyway half the time, at least it feels like

dusk knot
olive plaza
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When I do buy on Amazon for tech items, which is fairly rare for me, I tend to get the Amazon warehouse deals. Because each one has an individual case number with Amazon internally, so if I receive the wrong item, they'll look back on the cameras and see when it was processed in as a warehouse deal originally

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versus a new item that some employee or delivery carrier tampered with

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where they have no idea when the tampering happened

rancid juniper
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@grand kernel time to install Zenless Zone Zero 2

elfin mural
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i really wonder if it's worth it to replace my laptop's screen

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or should i gather coins to put to a cheap monitor instead

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i do wanna sell the laptop later down the line when i get something new

proud jackal
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I bought the wrong model of air-cooler because Asus TUF decided to make two versions for their 4090

upper rain
bitter ridge
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I saw a video where company told employees to put caneras on their forehead so that they can train Ai models through the footage

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Real dystopian stuff

proud jackal
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Longer PCB and smaller cooler from them recycling 30 series parts

upper rain
upper rain
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GA102 and AD102 sharing a package has its downsides i guess lol

proud jackal
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No vapor chamber heatsink

bitter ridge
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I would be willing to bet 4090 is glazed in a similar fashion the 1080ti is down the road in a few years

upper rain
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i wonder if 3090 ti has same mounting as 4090. could get a dead 3090 ti and throw that massive hulk of a cooler on it lol

worn night
rancid juniper
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Really capitalizing on a failed connector...

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this is not the first i know

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but wow bruh

elfin mural
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25 bucks for that is just too much imho

rancid juniper
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there are some selling for $50+

bitter ridge
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The Asus equalizer one is 50

worn night
elfin mural
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and is it really safe? lmao

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it's a fundamentally bad design

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idk how pci-sig approved it

rancid juniper
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easy

upper rain
# bitter ridge I would be willing to bet 4090 is glazed in a similar fashion the 1080ti is down...

1080 ti is glazed so much because like 4090 it was overpriced as hell at launch, but you could get them for $400 the second turing launched because of the mining collapse, as well as Turing being so disappointing.

Blackwell sure is disappointing, but good luck getting a $400 4090. 4090 will be looked on like the 3090. should have paid up like a good little pay pig when it was at MSRP and just held onto it through the storm

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why is "pay pig" as one word server blocked lol

rancid juniper
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Money legit makes any BS get out the door

elfin mural
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true

upper rain
elfin mural
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no idea tbh

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i'm not the guy who messed with the word filter

upper rain
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i don't think that's an offensive term unless i'm zoomermaxxing and it has some weird connotation i'm too broccoli haired to understand

bitter ridge
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Since that clavicular guy got famous people really like adding maxxing to anything

rancid juniper
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90w max 20+ core Intel CPU or bust

elfin mural
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@grand wasp I'm sorry but I don't trust raidmax at all no matter how cheap the psu is PepeRealizes

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They're known to make borderline bombs

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Now idk about this particular one, someone should review it in detail and report in a tier list or smth

bitter ridge
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Context ? Where are you seeing raid max

elfin mural
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It's in the polls channel

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It's apparently C tier, but there are some marketing claims that have been proven to be false that raidmax have made

bitter ridge
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Hmmm it mentions 5060/7700 in the post

elfin mural
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A bit sketch

bitter ridge
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So I would hope it can handle a 130w gpu and also like a 100w at max cpu

olive plaza
elfin mural
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Claiming something that the product doesn't actually have is rather suspicious

upper rain
upper rain
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$220 is a steal for that level of performance

olive plaza
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I was basically told that the methodology was explained within the list, but I couldn't find it

upper rain
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only eats 150 ish watts at stock profile anyway, you'd probably lose very little performance if you undervolted it properly in addition ti reducing PL

olive plaza
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and when I said I didn't see it listed, nobody was helpful

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That said

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I've used dozens upon dozens of the 850W model of Raidmax Cobrapower

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up to and including 5070Ti with zero issues

elfin mural
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So it should be alright for the most part then

olive plaza
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My day job was using them pretty heavily until we started using more Rosewill

grand kernel
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just send 550A through one tiny pin what could go wrong

olive plaza
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Personally, I wouldn't use a Raidmax with a 30 series

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but the transient spikes are way smaller on 40 and 50 series

elfin mural
grand kernel
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16AWG can handle that right?

olive plaza
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The build on my desk at this moment has a Gigabyte 5090 and a darkFlash 1250W

grand kernel
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darkflash psu pairs well with orange flash gpu

elfin mural
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fancy

grand kernel
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orange flash when the 12vhpwr connector self immolates

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🔥

olive plaza
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I mean that's correct

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12vhpwr bad, 12v-2x6 good

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There's new depth specifications on the physical connector

grand kernel
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more like 12v-2x6 slightly less bad

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still terrible

olive plaza
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You're free to feel that way

grand kernel
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all the still melting 50 series cards are also free to feel that way

bitter ridge
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Both are terrible to pronounce

grand kernel
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heck even that one model of 9070xt that uses it is melting

elfin mural
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12gb 5070 laptop is real

grand kernel
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I just feel like pcie power was a solved problem and we unsolved it

elfin mural
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i bet it slots in place of the pre ram crisis 5070ti laptops

olive plaza
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So, hands on experience from my perspective, my day job has shipped over 1000 PCs now with the new 12V connector, between the two types

bitter ridge
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One plug that power the gpu has a certain appeal to it

wary fjord
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Just diy it and use 8AWG

elfin mural
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but tbh i could use a 12gb 5070 laptop gpu lol

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perfect for me

grand kernel
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I mean even a 1/10000 catastrophic failure rate is unacceptable

rancid juniper
grand kernel
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anecdotal sample size of 1000 doesn't say much

olive plaza
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Ah, so I'm dealing with unreasonable

grand kernel
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we didn't see all these melting gpus with pcie 8-pin

olive plaza
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nevermind then I'll get back to work

grand kernel
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because it's a better spec

olive plaza
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XD

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"A sample size of 1000 GPUs doesn't say much" is pretty wild to me

grand kernel
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nvidia and pci-sig don't know you exist man you don't need to defend them for free

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are you denying that the failure rate is astronomically higher with the new connector?

rancid juniper
olive plaza
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I don't know whether it's astronomically higher or not. But you didn't give me a chance to tell you how many failures we had in over 1000 GPUs

wary fjord
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Its either the gpu melting or the PSU itself is melting.. everyday they playing russian roulette

olive plaza
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It's 1, and it was on the PSU end

wary fjord
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Why does 24 pin never failed

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But 12 does

wary fjord
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Should we make 24 pin instead of 12 pin for gpu?

rancid juniper
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that thing takes way too much power/heat for its thin size

wary fjord
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😂

olive plaza
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One thing we never did at my day job, was use the adapters

wary fjord
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24 pin so sturdy it can lift the whole pc

olive plaza
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We always just used a straight-through 12V cable

bitter ridge
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I think better communication when someone does have a failure is making it seem like there is a higher rate of failure

grand kernel
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1/1000 is not a good failure rate when we're talking about electrical fire

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safety factor should be high to account for user error as well, I'm sure yall do it better at work than the average user

olive plaza
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I mean you're right. But it's also less failure than we had with Intel 13-14th gen

grand kernel
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yep and both can be terrible

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I had no issues with my 4080 but had issues with my i7-13700K

nocturne flicker
grand kernel
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that's a sample size of 1 though

olive plaza
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We shipped several thousand 13th-14th gen systems. 3 failures

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2 of those failures were after customers flashed their own BIOS after delivery (we already update them before shipping) and the new BIOS was on defaults, with power limits not set to Intel's default behavior

grand kernel
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my i7-13700K ran controlled voltage since day 1

olive plaza
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so we had 1 legitimate failure

grand kernel
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still decided to self immolate to the point where 4.5p3.0e would bsod immediately

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lol

rancid juniper
#

running my 13600k for 3 years now, no issues

#

can handle voltages under 1.1v

olive plaza
#

Yeah, that'll happen

grand kernel
#

13600k much safer

bitter ridge
#

It's a ticking time bomb and by the time everyone cpu becomes unstable the warranty would have ended

grand kernel
#

not being pushed as hard

olive plaza
#

as an aside, my personal sample size of 1 has no issues

rancid juniper
#

true

olive plaza
#

which is a 14900k

wary fjord
olive plaza
#

If there's one "failure" I'd like to see go away completely

worn night
#

12 pin high power

rancid juniper
#

^^^

olive plaza
#

it's Ryzen memory support being bad

grand kernel
#

funny thing is raptor lake isn't the first time intel pushed an architecture to the point of stability issues at stock in recent memory

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the 10900K issues were just less widespread and got less attention

rancid juniper
#

isn't Ryzen I/O finnicky as well?

bitter ridge
#

I plug stuff in and it works

wary fjord
#

if they melt they melt.. just but new gpu no biggie. Just minor oopsie

rancid juniper
upper rain
bitter ridge
#

Yeah same for those plug n play with no hassle

#

I have been Ryzen customer since zen 2

rancid juniper
#

wild

upper rain
#

yeah lol

grand kernel
#

I thought agesa 1.3.0.0a fixed them

rancid juniper
#

Was gonna ask if you got it fixed oof

grand kernel
#

looks like it's an improvement but still not fixed

#

they didn't drop for like 3 weeks

bitter ridge
#

My youngest sister is currently using the 3700x and it had a long life of being used for over half a decade

rancid juniper
grand kernel
#

it's not a big deal to me cause I don't actually use wifi/bt but it's nice to have the option so it sucks that it's unstable

grand kernel
#

no

rancid juniper
#

Probably a board issue 🤔

wary fjord
grand kernel
#

yep same

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I thought it was unstable oc at first

wary fjord
#

I gave up on it.. i just use Ethernet

grand kernel
#

but issue persists after reverting all oc

#

I think the ryzen i/o die just can't handle the load of 3 nvme ssds

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cause it only started happening after I went from 1 nvme to 3 nvmes

rancid juniper
#

That's kinda funny

grand kernel
#

none of them are gen 5 even

#

3x gen 4

rancid juniper
grand kernel
#

setting the 9070xt to gen 4 didn't fix anything either

bitter ridge
#

First time seeing 5090 in a chart hope they do some crazy things with the horsepower

rancid juniper
#

Seeing the 13600k in recommended reqs far more frequently lately

grand kernel
#

one day I'll purchase an AMD product and not feel like a beta tester

upper wedge
#

system requirements being new gen? PepeRealizes

wary fjord
#

Thats fake 😢 wheres 5700 non xt as gpu recommendation

upper wedge
#

anybody here know if ebay can price match newegg absurd pricing on there?

bitter ridge
#

Looks like I have food poisoning

wary fjord
wary fjord
grand kernel
#

my 9070xt still doesn't work with 165hz

rancid juniper
#

bruh

wary fjord
#

Maybe ur cable is out of spec. Just maybe..

grand kernel
#

same cable that worked perfectly fine at 1440p165 with gtx 1060, rx 5700xt, rtx 3070, rtx 3080, rtx 3090, rtx 4080, and rtx 5070ti

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I don't think it's the cable's fault

wary fjord
#

Ow

rancid juniper
#

i run 170hz on my 9070 xt just fine using a DP cable

#

dude's PC is just experimental af

wary fjord
#

All slot? Cant make it work?

grand kernel
#

yep

wary fjord
#

Welp

rancid juniper
#

Kelp

grand kernel
#

that's what I'm saying lol

#

I just gave up

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and run 1440p144 now

#

no diff anyway

#

but it was annoying to troubleshoot

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cause at 165hz it would work 99% of the time but randomly black out before coming back as if the monitor restarted

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the monitor would show the resolution and refresh rate when it came back like it does when you first turn it on

bitter ridge
#

Could it be because the resolution refresh rate combo is less popular than 1440p240 and 144

olive plaza
#

@grand kernel what model of 9070XT is it, and are you still running Windows or did you swap to Linux when you went to AMD

#

just out of pure curiosity

upper wedge
#

Anyone here have experience with captial one shopping & their cashback?

#

I can get a 9070xt for 606$ after their 200$ cashback offer

grand kernel
#

happens on both windows and arch

#

so i know it's not a driver or oc issue

#

I don't have it oced on arch

grand kernel
#

I believe it was caused by the ring bus architecture that was designed for 4 cores being stretched to 10 cores

#

maybe a lower stock ring clock helped?

#

the issue was extremely rare on the 10900K anyway so it's possible that it just coincidentally never happened on a 10850K that was reported

#

10850K probably would have released regardless for binning purposes

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just took a while due to an... extremely mature process node

#

14nm++++ lol

pseudo raven
#

my 9070xt does 170 just fine

#

though I don't think my monitor is supposed to do 170

grand kernel
#

the same cable and monitor worked flawlessly with at least 8 other gpus, a different os, and all manner of drivers

#

it's the gpu's fault

#

all manner of cpus and mobos too and even some igpus

rancid juniper
#

radeon trolling for the 9848451321864th time?

grand kernel
#

it might not be every 9070xt

#

but my 9070xt definitely got something going on there

#

interesting thing is

rancid juniper
#

i guess i got lucky with my gpu (sort of)

grand kernel
#

in the custom resolution menu

rancid juniper
#

vram wants to gamble

grand kernel
#

it gives me a warning symbol on the pixel clock whenever I exceed 154hz at 1440p

#

and 1440p 154hz is perfectly stable

#

but 1440p 155hz is not

#

can you test that actually

#

see if you get any sort of warning on a custom resolution of 1440p 155hz

rancid juniper
#

lol

#

yall back?

grand kernel
#

intermittently

#

I thought it was an issue with the guest wifi here

rancid juniper
velvet summit
#

lmao

#

like 40 of my servers went down

sinful blade
#

We all dying

velvet summit
#

the rest were working fine

#

dms as well

tranquil pebble
#

discord server is on fire

craggy shoal
#

I thought I was banned lol

tranquil pebble
#

Cloudflare outage? Oh god

grand kernel
#

I'm gonna steal your 9070xt over the internet so I can finally run my monitor at full refresh rate

#

yoink

rancid juniper
grand kernel
#

what's your daily tune again

rancid juniper
#

for what? GPU?

grand kernel
#

would you trade yours for a card that does -60/2754 but has to run 1440p at 154hz

#

yeah

grand kernel
#

I feel like the diff between 144hz and 165hz is literally nothing anyway thats why it doesn't bother me enough to look into rma or something

#

cause what if I rma it and get a worse sample lol

rancid juniper
#

i think you should RMA, for a peace of mind

grand kernel
#

oh you have basically the same tune

rancid juniper
#

you'll go nuts if you don't

grand kernel
#

from what I understand this is quite a bit better than average for 9070xt

rancid juniper
#

if i OC my cpu, the UV on the gpu will be unstable until i turn it down to -40mv

grand kernel
#

-40 to -50 is common for actual stability

#

lol what

#

interesting

rancid juniper
#

yes

#

stock + uv brings it as high as -55mv

grand kernel
#

you'd think those wouldn't really interact

#

my best guess would be that the gpu tries to stretch its legs a little more when your cpu is oced? I wouldn't expect stock 13600k to be a major bottleneck for the 9070xt but I'm sure it manages to be the limiting factor at certain moments

rancid juniper
#

ah well, its funny since adrenalin causes WHEA errors when stressing the cpu under prime95. If you launch the application it might freeze or error out on a BAD CPU OC

grand kernel
#

just one bad gpu boost spike would be enough to cause a timeout

#

I'm not a fan of the -mV system tbh I wish we had access to the v/f curve like nvidia or even older radeon gens

rancid juniper
#

finally, someone who doesn't like that limited junk

grand kernel
#

iirc older radeon gens didn't have a full v/f curve but you got control over 7 points?

rancid juniper
#

yes

grand kernel
#

-mV is just such an imprecise way of tuning

rancid juniper
#

i had more control over my 4060 mobile than this

grand kernel
#

I'm quite certain my card can do as much as -100mV stable at certain points on the curve

rancid juniper
#

heck tuning the RX 6700 XT was more fun thanks to MPT

grand kernel
#

but you just have to accept the lowest value that's stable across the entire curve

rancid juniper
#

I do not like the boosting algo on RDNA 4 as it always craves for power. I mean out the box the max clocks are 3.4GHZ

#

really bruh?

grand kernel
#

the annoying thing is often times you can stabilize a higher undervolt in more demanding situations where it would actually make more difference

#

and have to back it off for the lighter parts of the v/f curve where it doesn't matter as much

grand kernel
#

the gpu is never hitting 3200mhz anyway in a situation where the tuning actually matters

#

more like 2700-2800mhz lol

rancid juniper
#

-350mhz and more might do it, i had lower power readings on some scenarios instead of it hitting max power all the time

grand kernel
#

I suspect that running -250 allows me to stabilize a larger offset compared to -0

#

but that would take a long time to test in depth

#

either way there's literally 0 benefit to letting it theoretically boost to 3450mhz

rancid juniper
#

it'll barely hit that unless the game is super light or something

grand kernel
#

who cares if you see 3450mhz for 1 second in a light game where you're pushing 800 fps anyway

rancid juniper
#

heavier games will drop clocks to 2.8ghz and below easy

grand kernel
#

exactly

#

I actually quit the one game I played where seeing 3.2ghz was a thing

#

so I could probably even afford to try like -550mhz and -65 or -70mV lol

sinful blade
craggy shoal
#

Is it planned? (just curious lol)

grand kernel
#

5mV is actually kind of a huge step compared to nvidia's 15mhz steps

olive plaza
#

@grand kernel do you want me to check if my 9070XT can do more than 144

#

I have a Challenger

rancid juniper
grand kernel
#

or 154hz

olive plaza
#

ok I'll check tonight when I'm home

#

couple of hours

#

I'll ping you

grand kernel
#

yea I'm also not home so I can't show you what it looks like

#

but I get no warning at 154hz and a warning at 155hz

sinful blade
grand kernel
#

which is another reason why I don't think it's an issue with my cable

rancid juniper
#

rivatuner overlay text is bugged in this game

olive plaza
#

man this tooth pain is starting to get real bad

craggy shoal
sinful blade
rancid juniper
olive plaza
#

I need to have like, several damaged teeth ripped out

sinful blade
craggy shoal
grand kernel
craggy shoal
#

heck

sinful blade
rancid juniper
sinful blade
#

I had 5

grand kernel
#

I'm really curious about why mine does that and if it happens to other 9070xts

#

the custom resolution thing

#

see if it warns you

#

that warning is the main reason I thought it was just a hardware limitation of the 9070xt

rancid juniper
#

you mean this?

grand kernel
#

exceeding a certain pixel clock limit

#

yeah

#

you get the warning too

#

interesting

#

see that red exclamation mark next to 664730

#

does it go away if you set refresh rate to 154?

rancid juniper
#

i can get my monitor up to 173hz iirc

grand kernel
#

you don't need to apply it just type 154 in the field

rancid juniper
grand kernel
#

and that field should auto update

#

check 154 and 155hz

rancid juniper
grand kernel
#

interesting

#

at what point does the warning show up for you?

#

for me 155hz shows the warning

olive plaza
#

I'm noticing your horizontal refresh is way higher Orange

#

like WAY higher

grand kernel
#

that's not mine

olive plaza
#

664730

grand kernel
#

but yeah I think 154hz on mine shows like 655k in that field

rancid juniper
grand kernel
#

so it's really odd that 155hz is only 606k for him

#

lol wtf

olive plaza
#

are you able to manually lower the G.Pixel Clock

rancid juniper
#

actually nvm, 201 is the upper limit

grand kernel
#

iirc I tried that and it said the timings were invalid

#

it might depend on the panel

olive plaza
#

my wife's monitor is 180Hz 1440

#

and she has a 9070 non XT

#

I'll check with her setup later

grand kernel
#

I only see the warning on the G.Pixel Clock field at 155hz but changing refresh changes that field automatically

#

and I can't budge it from what it automatically sets

#

it seems that my panel wants a higher pixel clock value per refresh rate than compooper's so maybe that's why 165hz won't work for me

#

I don't understand how monitor timings work

#

but yeah idk it's weird that my monitor was fine with so many other gpus including even an older radeon card

#

oh yeah I forgot even an rx 570 4gb was fine driving it at 1440p165

#

displayport 1.4 supports up to 240hz at 1440p and my cable is rated for displayport 1.4

#

monitor is also displayport 1.4

#

really weird how rx 570 4gb and rx 5700xt are handling the same cable and monitor better than a 9070xt

olive plaza
#

orange, from my quick googling and reading some forums

#

manually changing this to match your actual resolution might work

#

bc otherwise it might be calculating the pixel clock based on too high of a timing basis

grand kernel
#

interesting, I don't remember what it says in that field

olive plaza
#

some people reporting it has egregiously high numbers in that field

#

like 4000x3000

grand kernel
#

I'll have to check when I get home

#

lol wtf

olive plaza
#

thanks AMD

grand kernel
#

the same issue happens for me in arch and I just have whatever minimal driver is installed along with arch

#

so it's not unique to the windows driver

olive plaza
#

right. but if this is the default behavior

grand kernel
#

so yeah

#

weird default behavior for the card then

olive plaza
#

just something to look at

grand kernel
#

incorrectly detecting something about the panel

olive plaza
#

like this one for instance

grand kernel
#

lol what on earth

#

maybe it's just a flaw in the vbios for certain models and not all of them

olive plaza
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

grand kernel
#

cause clearly not everyone has this issue

#

I feel like this is definitely something a fair amount of people would rma for though

#

which makes me wonder why I don't see a newer vbios available

#

there should be incentive to fix this

honest birch
#

Not the radeon software

grand kernel
#

I mean I'm not even using the custom resolution anyway cause there's no point going from 144hz to 154hz

#

I was just using it for troubleshooting

honest birch
#

Ok

grand kernel
#

I just have it set to 144hz on windows and 120hz on linux cause there's no 144hz option

#

and it's stable like that

grand kernel
#

I figured

#

I just don't care enough lol

#

I don't game on linux only dev work

#

120hz is fine

honest birch
#

xrandr --output DP-1 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 144

#

Or whatever ur monitor is

#

Just an example

grand kernel
#

thanks

misty sparrow
#

jackpot

#

i dont know why i keep getting these really long family guy clips w/ no zoom

craggy shoal
#

No zoom btw

opaque sedge
opaque sedge
#

Whats an sto

icy ore
velvet summit
#

Stupid tiny onion

sinful blade
dusk knot
#

YES OR NO

dusk knot
#

OFC!!!

#

i was too lazy to reads teh reviews anyways

icy ore
#

Probably one of those that just has like an sd card or a flash drive inside of it and it’s formatted to make it seem like it’s 2tb+

proud jackal
dusk knot
#

my frames where tanking in the new helldivers 2 update....oh my god the bugs are terrifying

#

i was getting 30 or lower fps at one point

#

maybe 20

nocturne flicker
#

Are the bugs terrifying or are the bugs terrifying

dusk knot
#

the bugs

olive plaza
#

It's grilled cheese and tomato soup time

#

Come over

craggy shoal
#

I'm literally talking to an AI lmao (all self hosted btw)

#

lol it's super clunky

worn night
#

POV you have to support your supports

bitter ridge
#

I have been thinking of getting into highend Audio but the space is so big and confusing

worn night
#

Disappointed

pliant berry
#

oh no

nocturne flicker
#

Brother eats chunky tomato soup?

pliant berry
velvet summit
#

that tomato soup looks more like ketchup than tomato soup

nocturne flicker
#

Almost as if tomato soup and ketchup are primarily made of pureed tomatoes derpyBlob

worn night
#

And his soup looks thin as heck

#

At least make it thicc

velvet summit
#

though canned tomato soup tends to be closer to ketchup

#

but canned tomato soup kinda sucks

#

it just doesnt taste right

nocturne flicker
#

Tomato soup is usually just as smooth as ketchup, the difference is flavor and viscosity

sinful blade
#

Tomato soup should be thin and no chunks
Tomato sauce should be thick and no chunks
Specialized tomato sauce should have chunks(like marinara)

#

Thank you, no further discussion

velvet summit
#

idk what tomato soups you're drinking but when i make tomato soup at home and get it at resturants, they're typically more on the "chunky" side

#

else there's basically no texture

#

it's not chunky in the sense there's a whole ass tomato chunk in it

nocturne flicker
#

I don't drink tomato soup either way. It used to give me stomach irritation and I don't even like the flavor derpyBlob

#

But when my mother made it, she made sure to puree it

velvet summit
#

tomato soup is good when done well, but when not then it's kinda shit

#

i have yet to consume a canned tomato soup that met my minimum bar of expectations so i don't eat canned tomato soups anymore

nocturne flicker
#

I mean, canned tomato anything should only be used when you can cook out the canned flavor

#

Otherwise it'll never taste alright

velvet summit
#

just searching for tomato soup images show majority more "chunky" tomato soups

nocturne flicker
#

Are we seeing the same thing?

#

The actual soup itself on most of those look smooth

#

Not industrial smooth of course

#

But they are still puree

sinful blade
#

Smooth, and thin

#

Purée

bitter ridge
#

Looks good and sci fi themed might try it out

velvet summit
misty sparrow
#

havent had tomato soup in years

velvet summit
#

this tomato soup looks like industrial ketchup

nocturne flicker
#

That looks like industrial tomato soup

velvet summit
#

probably from a can

nocturne flicker
#

Which is made pureed to the same degree as ketchup

velvet summit
#

but that's why i'm saying it looks more like ketchup than tomato soup (that i consider edible)

worn night
olive plaza
worn night
#

Im suing Campbells

olive plaza
#

I'm on that poverty diet

royal crow
nocturne flicker
#

Homemade ketchup is going to be more like the puree of a homemade tomato soup too. Because normal people don't have access to industrial grade equipment or have the time/will to make it finely pureed

royal crow
#

💔

worn night
royal crow
#

Have you been using the default this whole time

olive plaza
worn night
#

Eh idc ts is fun

royal crow
#

Lmao

sinful blade
#

We gon get issues kekw

grand wasp
#

Hey Chat!

If you guys could take this quick Yes or No poll, that would help out! Let your voice be heard!

#polls-polls-polls message

worn night
bitter ridge
#

I think it should be fine for a 5060/7700 type rig which is written on the product description

olive plaza
royal crow
#

I wouldn't touch that thing with a 10 foot pole

grand wasp
#

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang

bitter ridge
grand wasp
#

Reddit's going to have a field day

#

the PM wants me to post this on buildapcsales

#

I'M SCARED GUYS

sinful blade
#

You should be

grand wasp
#

I'M SO SCARED

olive plaza
pliant berry
#

this is the end for you

olive plaza
#

You know, the brand you make money on

sinful blade
#

Isn’t that raidmax psu an F tier

pliant berry
#

I don't actually know anything about the psu

nocturne flicker
bitter ridge
#

With ram prices being what they are people are more likely to skimp extra hard on things like cases and power supplies

sinful blade
#

It’s only rated for a 5060/9070 max
So higher gpus are not going to like it

nocturne flicker
grand kernel
#

let's just say raidmax has their work cut out for them if they want their name to not basically be a curse word in the pc building community

bitter ridge
#

That's not a good look tbh

pliant berry
#

I just realized I've been using the same 650w psu for nearly 10 years

grand kernel
#

check the rail voltages

nocturne flicker
#

Now that you have realized its age it will die

grand kernel
#

if it works it works

pliant berry
#

if it works it indeed works

pliant berry
olive plaza
#

The 850w model has native PCIe5 cabling, is 80 Plus Gold, and I've personally used it on dozens of systems up to 5070ti with zero failures

#

It's 60 dollars

grand kernel
#

there's psus 3x that age that are still chugging along

pliant berry
#

yeah pretty sure some of the psus in my systems have to be closer to 20-30 years old lmao

grand kernel
olive plaza
#

Cobrapower 850

velvet summit
grand kernel
#

well let's hope they've upped their game

olive plaza
#

The 850 is the only fully modular one

grand kernel
#

cause they uhh

#

certainly have a reputation

olive plaza
#

I would use Raidmax before I would use Thermaltake Smart

#

And DEFINITELY before Diablotek

grand kernel
#

that's probably the lowest bar you can set tbh

#

but fair enough

#

raidmax is the bar on the ground and those two are buried 6 feet under lol

velvet summit
#

raidmax does have a couple c ranked recently ish released psus (not this one though) but a fair bit is e and f ranked

olive plaza
#

Lumping all of the PSUs from one manufacturer under one umbrella is the reason i was able to pick up dozens of Gigabyte power supplies that were not affected by the explosions, and MSI Coreliquid V2 AIO coolers, for less than half of retail

grand kernel
#

funny thing is

#

same brand can be different manufacturers

olive plaza
#

Fully aware

grand kernel
#

there was an evga branded bomb too

olive plaza
#

Also, some Thermaltake and MSI power supplies come out of the same factory with different labels

grand kernel
#

I just haven't heard of any actually good psu from raidmax yet

#

if they're taking steps in the right direction good for them

velvet summit
grand kernel
#

it'll take a while before they shake their reputation as an improvised explosives manufacturer

velvet summit
olive plaza
#

I found that spam you just posted was unclaimed for 14 months

#

How bout dat

grand kernel
#

I found that their user id was unclaimed in the ban list for 14 months

olive plaza
#

Now that's a certified classic

velvet summit
#

on a different note, it looks like there's another new (at least from what i've seen) scam (well, not exactly new but how they're doing it is a bit different) is that they're sending a screenshot of an "email" they got from "discord support" telling them to tell you to add a "discord staff" as a friend to dispute a claim of you doing "illegal activities"

olive plaza
#

That's not new at all

velvet summit
#

yeah it's not new, just the way they're doing it particularly is different from what i've seen

grand kernel
#

surely discord staff would reach out to you through some random user you don't know instead of... well, directly

velvet summit
#

fr

royal crow
#

Without the "discord staff" badge or anything

grand kernel
#

had an acquaintance get hacked in 2022 and dm me some weird stuff

olive plaza
#

Surely if you were doing something illegal the best course of action they can take is sending you screenshots that definitely don't have Javascript coding embedded

velvet summit
#

this was what someone got sent lmfao

grand kernel
#

when she got her account back I told her to enable 2FA

#

like 2 weeks ago she got hacked again

velvet summit
grand kernel
#

got it back and was like ok I guess I'm enabling 2FA

olive plaza
grand kernel
#

lol

velvet summit
grand kernel
royal crow
#

I have 2FA, multiple passkeys, and a recovery email

olive plaza
#

Someone I know got her steam account compromised, I asked if she wanted help setting up 2FA

grand kernel
#

like it kinda hurts to read

olive plaza
#

She was like nah I'll just be careful next time

#

She was, in fact, not careful next time

velvet summit
#

lmao

grand kernel
#

I feel like getting your account compromised in the first place should be a wakeup call that you are not as careful as you think you are

#

I've never once had any account compromised

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I'm not exactly a cybersecurity expert

velvet summit
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i think detection of phishing should be part of general education because way too many people fall for even the simple tricks

royal crow
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I'm just paranoid

olive plaza
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Someone got ahold of my debit card in like 2015, that's when I set up text alerts. It happened again the following year and I got notified while at work that I had bought drinks at a minibar in a hotel 5 states away

grand kernel
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all my passwords look like "6Aty$_8gsj72!#ie&", I don't reuse passwords, and I use 2FA whenever possible

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that's all it takes

velvet summit
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i've only had one account compromised as a kid but that was because i was dumb, but i've not had any afterwards

olive plaza
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I called the bank and said, I wish I was at a hotel drinking from a minibar

grand kernel
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💀

olive plaza
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Alas I'm at work right now

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So it's not me

grand kernel
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I just got home I can't wait to find out what resolution my 9070xt thinks my monitor is

grand kernel
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lovely

velvet summit
grand kernel
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wait

olive plaza
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THERE IT IS

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I told you

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And I'm glad it's that

velvet summit
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still safe

bitter ridge
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Crazy stuff thought frame work would be better than this

grand kernel
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it tells me this if i try to change the timing total

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lol

velvet summit
nocturne flicker
pliant berry
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mix the fact that framework is already at an upcharge, nvidia is making manufacturers find their own ram, and ram being unobtainable and this is what you get

nocturne flicker
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Some Indian dude took over my account for about 5 hours before I noticed and contacted Steam Support JPhasnocomputer

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Luckily that was when I had no cards linked with my account so nothing bad happened

pliant berry
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I've probably had a dozen attempts to get into some of my accounts. never had anything with permanent damage, I usually catch it first

wary fjord