general-chat

[ashen swan]

but that's only 8000 NTD cheapear

(To lazy to do conversion)

For just battery life

[elfin mural]

i wanna have my cake and eat it all for when i do swap from my tuf a15 to a light laptop

[ashen swan]

sppecs rn ?

[elfin mural]

the cake i want is
120hz oled or ips
32gb of ram. if not, must have sodimm slots
4050 equivalent or better igpu

i have 7735hs and 4050 rn

[ashen swan]

AI Max 392 and 358H-388H is alr there for IGPU ah nvm Sodimm

[ashen swan]

thats hard

[elfin mural]

if it's not sodimm then it must have 32 gigs

that's really only my req for ram tbh

[ashen swan]

I'm fine with 24gb

[elfin mural]

32gb is required for me in case i do want to play ram intensive games

[ashen swan]

lenovo does that with CAMM btw

[elfin mural]

ones that require a bigger buffer

yeah, camm laptops are way too pricey rn

[ashen swan]

Linux uses 6 gbs with 12 chormium tabs open rn :3

[elfin mural]

lenovo only does sodimm on lower end stuff

either sodimm, lpddr5 or lpddr5x

[ashen swan]

jacking up the other laptops prices :(

would've gotten a 14 smth smth model 2 in 1 if it were not for the price

[elfin mural]

the core ultra 7 355 does have xe3 igpu but it's only 4 xe cores

i assume it's slower than arc 140T in 155H and 255H

[ashen swan]

what happened to the 6 or wait SORRY FOR THIS BUT 7 XE cores

[elfin mural]

7 xe cores are only on 125H and 225H

[ashen swan]

what is 256/8V or 288V then

[elfin mural]

those use 140V

8 xe cores

looks like if i want something with competent gpu, i gotta go ideapad 5 pro

but honestly i have many years ahead before i can even save up enough lol

things might change

ram prices are dropping

[ashen swan]

All I want tbh is the Blue version of Lenovo's 2 in 1

are those called aura edition or smth ?

[elfin mural]

nah

[ashen swan]

I hate Lenovo names

[elfin mural]

aura edition is just a name they slap on high-end models

thinkpads, or even yoga 7's

the 2-in-1's are called yoga or 2-in-1

and even some yogas aren't even 2-in-1

yoga can mean two things, thin and light, or thin and light 2-in-1

[bitter ridge]

Aura edition naming is exclusive to Lunar lake iirc

[ashen swan]

Yoga 9i 2-in-1 Aura Edition with 258V is 1550 is kinda cool

[elfin mural]

yep

aura edition = lunar lake

[ashen swan]

man a Framework 14 with 338H is GONNA BE COOKED forpricing then

2000 Dollars I swear

[elfin mural]

lunar lake seems to be not too expensive considering other factors compared to panther lake

[bitter ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh1Vexm2kNk Here it is

[elfin mural]

and lunar lake utilizes MOP, memory on package

so that's a guarantee to get lpddr5x

[ashen swan]

258V has a decent Igpu from what I heard

OH BOY

6 DAYS LEFT

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[elfin mural]

yeah, the arc 140V is decent

but not enough for me yet

like i said before, i have a lot of time to save up

by then im sure a 4050 class igpu would exist by then for a not very high price tag

i'm not gonna drop 2k on a laptop

[bitter ridge]

Nvidia arm laptops also likely to be an option by the time you save up

Apparently announcement this computex

[elfin mural]

depends on how well arm translation works by then

if it works seamlessly with not too big of a perf loss bruteforced by the sheer perf of the soc itself

count me in

[ashen swan]

I'm just gonna save enough until next gen when Framework drops prices Core Ultra 400/500 Lake launches and I get 48gbs of RAM on Framework 14 with 358H trust

[bitter ridge]

I thin the ball on WOA will get rolling when Nvidia and Amd get their arm apus out

[pliant berry]

x86 dead

[ashen swan]

THERE DEF GONNA BE A FRAMEWORK 14 HAHA

-# I'm going insane

[elfin mural]

getting an nvidia powered arm laptop sounds surreal

but i guess that's the future we're heading into

[bitter ridge]

WOA meaning windows on arm

[elfin mural]

and this is nvidia, they legit have all the money to burn to develop software

[ashen swan]

I'll never buy Nvidia again

[elfin mural]

apparently the N1 is based on the GB10 grace blackwell chip

20 cores

two clusters of 10 cores

[ashen swan]

Nvidia can like

idk

I have no reason to favor them

AMD is greddy and uselss rn

Intel's to scared

Nvidia is stupid and greddy rn

[bitter ridge]

Anime game with path tracing

Interesting

[elfin mural]

the GB10 based soc is about to slap my laptop into the bin

damn

im researching about it cause i got curious lmao

6144 shading units (cuda? i think)

48 ROPs

384 tensor

[ashen swan]

THAT IS INSANE

[elfin mural]

oh 48 ROPs is exactly how much ROPs my laptop has

we can certainly expect great perf

[bitter ridge]

Word is it would be laptop 4070 performance but without vram constraints and the benefits of it being a APU in a laptop

[elfin mural]

if that's true, we have a beast in our hands

would drop like a bomb in the x86 market depending on WOA implementation

[bitter ridge]

APU benefits being less random sleep issues,better battery life and lower noise since cooling only chip

Oh cooler to the touch as well

[elfin mural]

modern arm socs in gaming phones have already shown that they can emulate pc games

the N1 on paper rn sounds like a very strong contender

could put a dent in qualcomm's entry

[pliant berry]

as much as I like arm you have to admit this ain't so great for upgradability

[elfin mural]

that's true

forces people to pay more to make sure they have enough ram

[nocturne flicker]

I can't wait to pay $400 more for 8gb more ram

[ashen swan]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-plans-xe3p-for-data-centers-and-workstations-but-not-yet-for-arc-gaming

[pliant berry]

anyone know are any of these the benchmark or are they all just the cinema 4d app

lol Idk why I have so many copies

[opaque sedge]

Open em

And find out

[pliant berry]

the folder structures look mostly the same

maybe I just delete everything with an older date?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fossil venture]

anybody know what the best gaming laptop is up to 2026

[craggy shoal]

oh boy

[fossil venture]

(no price range anything literally the best gaming laptop)

[bitter ridge]

Best in terms of sheer performance probably a razer blade or Asus Strix scar

[fossil venture]

link

[sinful blade]

@elfin mural

[bitter ridge]

About to play The crew motorfest with my brother so will give something within 30 minutes

[olive plaza]

I got a question. Anybody can weigh in on this because it's an opinion

[sinful blade]

[craggy shoal]

👀

[olive plaza]

My workplace sells high-end custom AI-oriented workstations, for people who want to run at-home local AI models. These typically have 16-core CPUs or more, 128GB+ of RAM, and often multiple GPUs. They start at like 14K.

Me and a colleague are at a bit of a disagreement on this.
One of us believes that the type of customer who is interested in spending this much money on a PC, would want RGB in it. The argument is, high-end cars typically have ambient lighting, so approach it from that perspective. Maybe even calling it "ambient lighting" in the listing.
The other believes this customer is interested in a highly professional PC look with a blackout style.
If it helps with perspective on this, all 4 of the cases we are currently considering using for these builds have no windows.

If you were going out to spend this much money on a dedicated AI workstation, would you want blackout, or RGB?

[sinful blade]

Blackout.

[fluid gulch]

Backout 100%

ProArt for that blackout

[olive plaza]

I mean we're unlikely to be using a ProArt board on the majority of these it would be a Sage

[sinful blade]

Still blackout.

[olive plaza]

When I say 14K+ it has a Threadripper Pro

[craggy shoal]

Black it out for sure. This sounds like more of a professional type of computer rather than a "for fun" computer. These aren't cars. And if you think about it, professional cars usually just have sponsors and the necessary performance parts. Gaming PCs are more comparable to "for fun" street cars (lowered, loud exhaust, other types of flashiness. Again, all for fun and aesthetics)

[olive plaza]

I'm glad you guys are on my side here

LOL

[safe cape]

GOLD

[fluid gulch]

Plus no RGB means no RGB software nonsense to control it

Win win

[ashen swan]

Huh ?
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/series/238783/intel-core-processors-series-2.html

[craggy shoal]

I think it's cool to add RGB to it, but maybe make it an option. One of my servers has RGB in it, but it's just not worth it. It's a cool statement piece, but unnecessary

[ashen swan]

Thats alot

[olive plaza]

This is the way we're currently leaning

[craggy shoal]

That's the perfect middle ground imo

[olive plaza]

which is to start off advertising it as blackout. Fill the case with Arctic P12 Pro

and then we'll replace out the primary fans with Arctic P12 Pro A-RGB fans, and advertise that as an option

But I don't actually expect us to sell more than like maybe 1-2 units with A-RGB

[olive plaza]

This is also the exact angle I took

If you buy a million dollar car, you're going to be showing it off

and I don't feel like the type of person who buys a Threadripper Pro is going to actively show off the fact they have 256GB of RAM in their home

[velvet summit]

apple puts no rgb in their systems
nvidia also doesn't

[craggy shoal]

Also, RGB takes up a surprising amount of energy. I think given my PC, it adds up to 50W of power consumption. Doesn't sound like much, but it would be a lot over time

[velvet summit]

you could put rgb as a free upgrade for people who want it but i'd reckon anybody spending minimum 14k on a system (that isn't meant for gaming) would not care about rgb

[craggy shoal]

That's what I'm thinking

@olive plaza Are these basically desktops, or do they come in a server chassis? (Just out of curiosity lol)

[olive plaza]

Some of the chassis choices include options from Fractal, Phanteks, and Silverstone

none have a window

[safe cape]

but would you add a display screen for a premium pc ???

[olive plaza]

so yes my idea was just - let's put some nice, professional looking Arctic P12 Pro fans. The front of these cases have a fine mesh, so let's install fans with good static pressure

[safe cape]

like this one

[olive plaza]

that's insane

[safe cape]

why ?

[olive plaza]

the screen is clearly cut off at the bottom, and the CPU power cable

This is a cool concept but the workmanship here is

I have to look away

I hope this was a concept piece

that's all

[olive plaza]

Also to that end of the kind of customers buying high end workstations, as others said, "Not having RGB software installed is a plus"

I think not having the control software for a screen like this installed would be another plus

[safe cape]

yes

but you will buy another screen

to monitor temp/fans XD

[pliant berry]

the software dependency is what makes those screens and such just stupid imo

[olive plaza]

if I needed to constantly monitor my temps then my setup is not cooled properly

[pliant berry]

if it was a dedicated hardware integration that was independent from the operating system then i'd be more ok with it

[olive plaza]

I'd rather throw whatever money this screen costs at making my cooling better

if that means putting in fans that are better for the application or building in a case that has less restriction on the airflow

like, the cooling should be good enough for a workstation like this, that I don't need to monitor it

fun fact. back in the day when you still had room in a case to install a DVD drive, they made fan hubs and temperature monitoring devices that installed in those bays

[safe cape]

YES

[olive plaza]

they were dedicated hardware, and they had thermal sensors with long cables

you could place them where you wanted

those were cool

man I miss my fan controller. I had one for a 3.5 bay

[olive plaza]

good ol DigitalDoc5

[safe cape]

[ashen swan]

https://youtube.com/shorts/LFYjgLqQ99A?si=ZE7XqRRy_sWEq1aA

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

[ashen swan]

framework 12/16 Mainboard case or battery swap program would be my guess

[upper rain]

@worn night 245kf is $175 new rn if you don't need the PSU and extra e core cluster

requires a z890 to match 250k gaming performance bc of low stock d2d/ngu

[ashen swan]

dude

Xeons are crazy

E5 2680 V4C DDR4 with motherboard

is 1800 NTD

THATS DIRT CHEAP

[velvet summit]

https://www.uploadvr.com/meta-quest-3-quest-3s-price-hike-memory-crisis/

[opaque sedge]

Damn legit giving the steam frame the chance to settle on a higher price

[nocturne flicker]

Mmmmmmmmmmm

[velvet summit]

I don't think it would change the decision on the steam frame pricing

I still think it would be in the 700-800 dollar range

Closer to the 800 dollar range

[opaque sedge]

Yeah but that price is actually gonna look reasonable now thanks to suckerberg

[velvet summit]

Oh yeah probably

[bitter ridge]

Does the steam frame have any processing of it's own like the quest 3

Looks like it's available for pre order now

[proud jackal]

Do I need it

[bitter ridge]

If someone has to ask then most likely not

I think the people who will truly benefit from this aren't even asking themselves if they need it or not. They are just simply getting it.

[tranquil pebble]

Intel Extreme Edition all over again

but AMD this time

[tranquil pebble]

I would not be surprised if most people getting this would be better off with the the normal x3d or the x

[tranquil pebble]

damn, 10k barely gets you much these days

thanks to nvidia mostly here

[worn night]

https://klipy.com/gifs/horse-stare-qRu

fym barely bro its a 9950x3d2 5090 64gb 4tb build 🙏🏻

they also charged 200 dollars to build it

[tranquil pebble]

Look at that half the cost is for the GPU

without that yeah the price is sane ish

[royal crow]

That should be in the 4.5-5k range

Spend 10k on a used corolla or sm

[worn night]

thats cause bro bought the 5000 dollar lightning 5090

[dusk knot]

*Want

[worn night]

msi did that not nvidia

[tranquil pebble]

ik that, which is overpriced as hell

[tranquil pebble]

the 5090 is overpiced no matter which one you get

[worn night]

yup

[pseudo raven]

that 5090 is messing everything up lol

js get a 5080 instead and save like 4k

the fact that even a 5080 is 1500 is so insane

[tranquil pebble]

5090 is literal price gouging

so is 5080

[pseudo raven]

consumers are so bad with their money

[worn night]

fr

[elfin mural]

people are bad at money

[pseudo raven]

if we were just better as a collective and didn't take this bs

[worn night]

they would lower prices

[pseudo raven]

for gpus I actually wonder how much they'd decrease but

[worn night]

but nooo the people that are all "money is no object gimme the best there is"

[tranquil pebble]

atp just get a 9070xt

[pseudo raven]

chipotle bowl wouldn't be $10

[elfin mural]

ram has been decreasing lately

despite people still buying ram up

[pseudo raven]

minimum

[elfin mural]

prices are still bad, but they're less painful than before

speaking about the ram market ofc

[tranquil pebble]

also would be nice if pc parts werent treated like the stock market

[royal crow]

"OK then you surely won't mind us charging you $750 to plate everything in gold-colored plastic"

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/JUdnOR1rlFI?si=q4D0frDBHu09bOkM

[royal crow]

"Plus $350 for special hand delivery"

[bitter ridge]

One of the few tech products which is on a downward trend

[tranquil pebble]

Well, with the AAA industry literally on fire, I don't see too much point in buying the latest and greatest anyways

[elfin mural]

im regularly seeing a 16gb stick of 5600 sodimm go for 200 or even below that, as low as 180

it's still not at a price im willing to pay

but hey, it's something

[bitter ridge]

I got three pizza hut discount coupons with the purchase of my brothers new SSD

[tranquil pebble]

so glad I got my 96 GB 5600 kit for $240 when I did

[bitter ridge]

Ig we going eating

[royal crow]

That's not good at all, we should be demanding that that go down to $50 or less

[elfin mural]

yeah, wait a few years lol

the "normal" we used to see isn't gonna come back soon

i gotta say tho, things are recovering

[tranquil pebble]

that doesn't mean we should be happy about it

[bitter ridge]

I am a bit concerned about the PS6 pricing since it does have some affect on how we perceive the prices of pc parts as well

[elfin mural]

(unless somehow ai makes a breakthrough and datacenters continue being built)

yeah no, im not happy about the pricing of ram sticks

that won't change

[tranquil pebble]

GPUs are pretty bad too

[elfin mural]

expensive gpus don't really impact gaming as much as ram being expensive imo

but man do i wish $150 gpus would exist again

and not exist just to exist at that

a usable $150 brand new gpu would lower the barrier of entry for gaming again

[velvet summit]

5.5k for a gpu???

that gpu costs more than my desktop and laptop combined

[worn night]

bro never heard of an msi lightning

[velvet summit]

lightning is the speed it turns your full wallet into an empty wallet

boom just like that

[tranquil pebble]

that does not justify the price one bit

[worn night]

i didnt say it did

[tranquil pebble]

or worse, requires a loan/credit (dont do this)

[elfin mural]

that entire pc can get you a used car in decent condition

it won't be anything new, but it'll get ya a car

[misty sparrow]

driving in my car

[velvet summit]

that entire pc costs more than quite a few good used cars i've looked at

[elfin mural]

i can go ahead and get a corolla in good condition for that money

[velvet summit]

like maybe a 5 year old corolla

[worn night]

right after a beer

hey that bump

is shaped like a deer

[unreal trail]

so same x86 architecture with more expensive hardware. Thanks.

[nocturne flicker]

Almost gets you a pre-COVID Nissan Leaf

Though if you are willing to go for higher mileage, there is actually one near where I am for 8.5k

75k miles tho

[dusk knot]

🛌

[dusk knot]

and it should stay like that

[nocturne flicker]

It'll be a different architecture but not different enough to make it so they can't play the other games. Theoretically they all could run PS1 games from the CDs too if Sony had added CD support to the consoles

[queen briar]

why does this matter when devs drop support for PS4 titles.

[thorn quartz]

thoughts on rm-e from corsair?

I might need an upgrade from my current psu

[nocturne flicker]

Since when has every game on the PS4 ever has been a live service game that required active dev support in order for them to continue working

[queen briar]

thats fair. might only be MP services.

[nocturne flicker]

MP will probably be gone, but SP games will work fine

All part of maintaining library inertia

[queen briar]

is there not support needed to get a ps4 title running on ps6

[unreal trail]

[velvet summit]

when you forget to change the batteries in the carbon monoxide detectors

[olive plaza]

Has anybody here added solar panels to their residence

[velvet summit]

no but i know a few people who had

most of them generate more power than they need

(at least during sunny days)

[olive plaza]

I'm really considering it for next spring

like, starting to do some research now and then getting stuff in place next spring

I know I'll need to see what kind of permits I need

[velvet summit]

i think it's a worthwhile investment, especially if you live somewhere not too dusty

[olive plaza]

I'm in Ohio, we get a ton of sun

and it gets plenty hot in the summer to the point where our AC was running pretty hard this past year, resulting in nearly $500 electric bills

and I'm getting to the point where I'll have somewhere in the 60-70K range of equity on my house, I could borrow against that to do some panels and pay it back over the life of the system

[queen briar]

@olive plaza do you think 1500-1600w on a UPS is too much

[olive plaza]

yes

[queen briar]

k

[olive plaza]

well I should say no

[velvet summit]

depends on the ups

[olive plaza]

I don't THINK it is

[queen briar]

ill get 2 if thats the case

[olive plaza]

I KNOW it is

[velvet summit]

if you use a ups rated for 1600w loads then a 1600w load would not be too much

[queen briar]

im still ltrying to figure if the 2 systems will run in a single room

[olive plaza]

UPS aren't rated in wattage, that's the problem

[queen briar]

but on seperate wall sockets

[olive plaza]

they're rated in VA as output from DC

[velvet summit]

true

[olive plaza]

which is then converted DC to AC for your attached devices

and there's an efficiency loss

so absolutely no there aren't 1600W rated UPS systems

not consumer grade anyway

[queen briar]

hmmm

[olive plaza]

the highest ones I know of are around 1500VA, and those are rated for like 1100W holdup power

[velvet summit]

depends on the power factor of the psu you're using, most are near 1

[queen briar]

ill just put the PC on an extension cord 🙂

[velvet summit]

💀

technically could be fine if you get the appropriate gauge wire

[olive plaza]

I'll be back I need to do some deep breathing exercises before Zac gives me an anxiety attack

[queen briar]

im tryign to figure out my dual system set up still

[queen briar]

its national stress awareness day too

get you some balls to squeeze

[olive plaza]

[velvet summit]

if you have 2 power supplies, you could use 2 ups's i guess, but i have a feeling you're going to trip the breaker if you have a constant 1600w load (assuming power is both in the same room, and in like a bedroom with a single 15a breaker)

[queen briar]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-insane-mental-asylum-crazy-family-guy-gif-17311799075167310399

[queen briar]

they arent. but im trying to use them when needed

[olive plaza]

breaker

I barely even knower

[velvet summit]

real

just hire an electrician to run 20a circuits into your room and get a rackmount ups that does 2000va

[queen briar]

were renting

[velvet summit]

and while you're at it also get a mini split installed into that room because you'll need zoned cooling to keep that room cool

[queen briar]

we have central air

[velvet summit]

the problem with central air is that most central forced air heating/cooling is not zoned

[queen briar]

there was one PC dude i use to watc who said " if you dont have central air, you shouldnt own a PC, you need to get your life together first "

[queen briar]

i dont know what this means.

[velvet summit]

majority of houses (in north america at least) are single zone heating/cooling

there is one thermostat that controls the temperature for the whole house

if you have one room that is cold, but the room where the thermostat is at the correct temperature, the heat won't turn on

in multi zone heating/cooling (forced air specifically), each zone (typically every room) has a thermostat that you can set, and typically there are duct flaps that open and close depending on which room needs heating or cooling

in older (i'd say typically european) houses, quite a few houses have multi zone heating as they had a boiler system, and the thermostats just controlled a solenoid to let water flow

multizone forced air systems are significantly more expensive to install than single zone which is why they're pretty rare outside of larger buildings like mansions, but ducted forced air (single unit of it) is less effective for larger buildings so some of those use either boiler systems, or multiple units for heating

or in warehouses, typically they're not ducted and just blow into the work area to heat it

anyways that doesn't really matter much, the main issue really is with a single zone system (specifically with cooling in this instance) is a room with even 1000w of heating from the pcs would get quite toasty, and forcing the air out of the room with a fan or just the door open would lower the temp of the room, but can cause other rooms to get too cold if the ac is on (from the added heat from the pcs), or the pc room being too hot

by adding a mini split (or window ac) system, you'll effecitvely add an additional zone of cooling, which then the room and the rest of the house would remain comfortable without being too cold

i should say this is less of an issue in smaller buildings like an apartment

more of an issue in detached homes

[spark plume]

So I'm just looking for right now what Laptop can Handle PS3 Emulator?

[velvet summit]

honestly i think any modern laptop with decent specs could handle that

decent as in not a celeron

[nocturne flicker]

Seeing as how the PS4 used standard components, likely not

At least likely not from the dev side

[dusk knot]

i keep seeing the season ZERO Hela skin glitch in the lower left corner...does that mean it might come back in the future?

[queen briar]

@velvet summit each room has a vent and its fiarly consistent across all rooms.

even the bathrooms without a vent get cold.

[spark plume]

What one do you Recommand

[velvet summit]

that is why most houses are single zoned, but then you're adding a pretty decently large heat load from the pcs

[queen briar]

anythign from 2016 +

[velvet summit]

whatever you can afford honestly

what is your budget?

[queen briar]

i should just try streamign on the pc alone and see if its worth using the other pc to video cpature

and its it not needed... well then damn, i bought a $550 case for shits and giggles

[nocturne flicker]

Most of the work for backwards compat usually happens on AMD and Sony's end. Some stuff to ensure the gpu is capable of doing the same stuff, making sure the cpu has the instruction sets needed, some other tweaks and such

[queen briar]

im kind ok with it though

[velvet summit]

oh the dual pcs are for streaming? eh, for most people the added complexity of a dual pc stream setup isn't really worth it

[nocturne flicker]

For the PS5, all they had to do was make sure the gpu had the necessary software, the cpu had the instruction set and a special clock timing setting for PS4 games

[spark plume]

Well Lets just say my Micrsoft Surface Pro 6 can Handle PS, PS2, mGBA but not PS3 Emulator an I just want something that Can and Will Handle anything I put it through so I would say $1k Mim or $2k to $3k Max

[velvet summit]

i was assuming you had dual pcs as in like 2 gaming setups in the same room, though it probably is fine with one being the stream pc if needs be

[queen briar]

i know some people who do, but like they dual stream from laptops

i figured, why not from my old desktop?

and if not streaming, use it to run a game server

[velvet summit]

from a laptop? i feel like that isnt as ideal since i feel like that would be easily picked up by a mic lmao

[queen briar]

theres different factors that go into it but ive seen those set ups

some use a dedicated encoder too

[velvet summit]

hmm interesting
surface 6 was 2024 right?

i was able to emulate ps3 games fine with an igpu from 2022

[spark plume]

Let me Check

[spark plume]

According to my Microsoft Profile from the site it was 2009

[velvet summit]

looks like there's an updated specs requirements

[velvet summit]

oh it was the surface pro 6, not the surface laptop 6

wait

no it wasnt, it's not even on the page

question mark

the first microsoft surface was made in 2018 so it can't be 2009, that probably was just when you made you microsoft account

[spark plume]

No Sending a Screen Shot

[unreal trail]

💀

[velvet summit]

ok yeah that version number isnt a year, though it really does look like one

[spark plume]

Ok so How can I tell

[velvet summit]

your warranty expired in 2020, microsoft has not released anything with an 11 year warranty LMAO

it's a surface pro 6 so it's from 2019 (late 2018 technically), not 2009

[queen briar]

thats not a name, it just looks like one 🙂

[spark plume]

Ok

[velvet summit]

minimum recommended ram amount from rpcs3 is 8gb ram, but for ps3 performance you need 16gb, so yeah you should probably upgrade the laptop

[queen briar]

was the ps3 ddr3?

[velvet summit]

it does recommend a 5600xt/rtx2060 class gpu though, but i think most current gen igpus are around that now? if not just a bit under

[olive plaza]

GDDR3 but it was a shared pool between CPU and GPU

[spark plume]

Ok any what Laptop to you Recommand me getting

[olive plaza]

So it was high speed but crappy latency

[queen briar]

hmmmm

[olive plaza]

GPU was approximately a GeForce 7800GT

[queen briar]

even with ddr4s higher speeds, that capacity kind matters on a laptop.

[velvet summit]

wikipedia mentioned "XDR DRAM", and it was released before ddr3 it looks like

the reason why the specs are that much higher for the rpcs3 is because it's emulating it and ps3 wasnt x86

[olive plaza]

You're right, Xbox360 was shared

[queen briar]

oh right, ps3 was 2006....

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

[olive plaza]

PS3 was XDR for the CPU's RAM which was developed by Rambus

[velvet summit]

combined total of half a gigabyte of memory

it's honestly shocking how good ps3 games graphics tended to be for the amount of memory they had to work with

though of course there were loading screens...
a whole lot of loading screens

[queen briar]

i mean hsi overall question is what laptop do we recc

and.. honestly, any laptop

[velvet summit]

but like, windows cant run on half a gig of ram

any decent laptop made in the last 5 years i'd say

[queen briar]

ps3 wasnt too power hungry and they all ran at either 30 or 60 fps.

[velvet summit]

doesn't even need a dgpu

[queen briar]

the only questions id ask is what resolution you want and what else are oyu using it for

[velvet summit]

get a thinkpad 🧠

[queen briar]

if you wanna stream emulated games, youd want somethign beefy but if its to pass time?

[queen briar]

LMFAO dont do this to mee

i jsut saw the meme for the 4th time today

[spark plume]

I Just want to relive all my Games Is all

[velvet summit]

💀

i mean, you could get a modded ps3

[queen briar]

wait, lemmie tell the mod first

@dusk knot ima risk it for the funnies

[olive plaza]

what

who's shopping for a laptop

or are we just talking theoreticals

[queen briar]

the green dude

[velvet summit]

swat is looking for a laptop to emulate ps3 games

[olive plaza]

oh ok

[queen briar]

everything is theoretical until we get invoiced

[velvet summit]

LMFAO

[olive plaza]

the RPCS3 website recommends RTX2060 or 5600XT level graphics

and R5 5600 / i5 10400 level CPU

the RTX3060 Laptop GPU is basically the same performance as a desktop 2060, so I'd start there

look for a laptop with an RTX3060 and a 6-core CPU of some kind

[queen briar]

so he can get a 5060 laptop and be gucci

[olive plaza]

I don't know if a laptop 5060 is faster

I know nvidia has been heavily kneecapping everything

[queen briar]

itll give him some room to wiggle cause theyll update it over the next few years

hmm

@spark plume you should call into newegg pc support and ask for some reccs

🙂

[olive plaza]

Techpowerup shows an RTX 3060 laptop is faster than a 5060 mobile

5060 mobile is about 10% slower than a desktop RTX2060

and a 3060 Laptop GPU is about 5% faster

than the 2060

This is completely unsurprising to me

Given how extreme NVIDIA has been with pushing DLSS down everyone's throats

[queen briar]

Nvidia putting the L in their tech

[spark plume]

Whats reccs?

[queen briar]

recommendations

[spark plume]

Ok I'll hit them up

Thank you Guys very Much

[queen briar]

@velvet summit is actually a woman

[velvet summit]

[dusk knot]

Really?

😳

[worn night]

you mean

its Mr. woman 343???????????

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-meme-john-cena-wrestler-what-gif-16744531

My friend said he had a reptile diss function, but when I came to his house, nobody was there

[olive plaza]

Those are some words which you chose to say today

ZacAttackLeader is actually not a leader

but a follower

[queen briar]

Yea but i only follow my own orders

[dusk knot]

That's not how it works, zac

[queen briar]

it does with me

[dusk knot]

Nuh uh

[queen briar]

it does too!

[olive plaza]

I think that qualifies as a form of the blind leading the blind

[queen briar]

the profecy may be wrong, but it is mine and mine alone and I will lead it dammit.

[olive plaza]

it's especially wrong since it's spelled prophecy

[heady plinth]

It would be very surprising to me. Looks like tpu might be using the lowest of the configurable tdp 5060 at 45W. That still feels like the 3060 should be losing but could explain their result. More vram on a 5060m too, 3060m was 6gb.

[queen briar]

i was voted to lead, not to read.

[dusk knot]

Ha....I get the reference

[olive plaza]

3060m was 6GB but on 192-bit interface, compare against 128-bit on 8GB with the 5060 mobile

They truly kneecap their GPUs these days

We can't have nice things anymore

[queen briar]

the funniest part about that statement is it was pronounced as lead, not lead.

[olive plaza]

So you pick number 3

governor

[heady plinth]

5060m is gddr7 instead of 6 so the bandwidth ends up a bit higher actually. Capacity matters too.

[queen briar]

my trsuted advisor suggested it, i merely agreed.

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-pick-me-choosing-number3my-lord-choose-number3-gif-15095051

[olive plaza]

So then the buyer would need to specifically seek out a version of the RTX5060 Mobile that discloses its TDP configuration

Lenovo does that

Look whether it's actually faster or slower, the fact we actually have to discuss it to determine whether it is or not, with a 2 generation gap, is CRAZY

[heady plinth]

Yeah a loq or something else decent should have the full power version or close enough to it. A nitro v or something over focused on thin and light presumably sucks. A reasonable cooling solution is something to look for too on performance.

[olive plaza]

There should be NO QUESTION

it should just be

"Oh it's 2 generations newer, of course it's 60% faster"

and yet

NVIDIA

[north crescent]

Or vBIOS flash

[heady plinth]

A desktop 5060 is in the same boat against a 3060. And it has less vram instead of more.

[olive plaza]

the worst idea

[north crescent]

But that isn't for standard end consumer

[heady plinth]

Gains of anything except the halo cards gen over gen have been pretty terrible for 40 and 50 series.

[olive plaza]

50 especially

[queen briar]

NEED MORE RAGE

[olive plaza]

I can't believe the 5080 doesn't beat a 4090

[heady plinth]

And really just the 4090. The 5090 was rather mediocre too since it was just a bigger 4090 really. More cores but more power draw to go with it and little real improvements other than more cores.

[olive plaza]

when 4080 was above 3090Ti and 3080 was above Titan RTX and 2080 was above Titan Xp and 1080 was above Titan X Maxwell and

[heady plinth]

The rest of 50 series were practically just 40 series super again.

[queen briar]

im just glad the 1080ti remains at the top

[upper rain]

mobile is one place where this makes sense as a smaller memory bus dramatically decreases die size, which means lower power draw and therefore less heat. which has the added benefit of requiring less cooling, smaller batteries, and cheaper chassis

the issue is that Nvidia doesn't treat these as budget, stripped out products. if anything they price them significantly higher than their desktop counterparts that are already priced much too high

[olive plaza]

et al the laptop 5090 being a desktop 5080 kneecapped to run at like 900MHz instead of 1.6GHz

[queen briar]

why raise performance and expectations when we can just raise profit.

[olive plaza]

I'm surprised they haven't been hung out to dry by the legal system yet

[icy ore]

matter of time

[olive plaza]

there's a certain performance expectation when the company says it's a 5090

[upper rain]

they are the same die size running basically the same architecture, it's remarkable that they squeezed as much out as they did

[heady plinth]

They were on the same process node but so was 700-900 and that was a real generational gain.

[olive plaza]

It's still insane given the 80 class has always beaten the previous flagship

until now

[queen briar]

if i wanna run an AI bot on a pregnancy test, which brand has the best specs?

[dusk knot]

English. Smh

[queen briar]

wait, this isnt duck duck go.

[upper rain]

the architecture itself is also literally almost exactly the same. the biggest difference was adding registers for fp4 which doesn't affect gaming at all

and reworking the IMC to support GDDR7, which necessitated severely increase cache access times

[tranquil pebble]

penguin penguin stop when? /j

[upper rain]

especially on 5090

[upper rain]

yeah, stagflation hits home

Nvidia is a greedy greedy company but a lot of what they do is simply reacting to a fake economy self imploding

[olive plaza]

if anything the stagnation in desktops has just ignited my interest in retro PCs again

been heavily enjoying my Windows XP machine with an EVGA GTX570

and the next project is a Windows 7 one with GTX1070

[upper rain]

nice nice

i had a collection of Fermis and first gen Keplers before i was booted

gtx 260 was the first card i ever vmodded

oldschool stuff is great

[olive plaza]

I no longer have it, but I had a BFG GTX295

dual PCB model

[upper rain]

nice nice

[olive plaza]

I do have a GTX480

[nocturne flicker]

Sanction means both to implement punishments to express disapproval of an action or series of actions and an authority approving a course of action

[olive plaza]

not sure if it cooked itself or not

[upper rain]

i want to run SLI GTX 590's for funsies

[olive plaza]

LOL

[upper rain]

i want to watercool them though, and unless i can find some old waterblocks floating around it looks like i'll have to jank some cooling together

CPU blocks and custom mounting hardware most likely

[olive plaza]

I have an A8N-SLI so you can heavily CPU limit them with an old school A64 dualcore on S939

and original DDR

[dusk knot]

The heck....

[upper rain]

i want to run XFX because funny garbage CPU go 5.5ghz brrrrr

[olive plaza]

alternatively, EVGA 750i

with a C2Q

[nocturne flicker]

So when a country sanctions another, they are sanctioning sanctions on another country

[tranquil pebble]

You mean AMD FX?

[dusk knot]

😵‍💫

[upper rain]

yah, i just got off work lol

brain is numb

[tranquil pebble]

The FX is almost more of a resistive heater than a CPU

[olive plaza]

"It's 8 cores, trust me bro"

[tranquil pebble]

one in particular with like a 200W TDP

[olive plaza]

FX-9590 you mean

[tranquil pebble]

yeah

the mobo killer

[nocturne flicker]

9590 is free house heater

[olive plaza]

FX 9370 is HILARIOUS

probably one of AMD's funniest launches

[tranquil pebble]

9590 is cursed

[upper rain]

the great thing about FX is that at least one of the FX generations didn't have actual thermal sensors and simply guestimated temps based on other telemetry like current leakage

[olive plaza]

200W but it's not faster than an 8350

[tranquil pebble]

mega cursed

[upper rain]

yah lmao. if you get a really shitty bin of those CPUs it'll just assume its melting itself to death at like 3ghz running in a custom loop because the silicon just happened to be leaky from the factory

truly a marvel of engineering

[olive plaza]

FX-8370 was base 4.3GHz
FX-9370 was base 4.4GHz
FX-9590 was base 4.7GHz

so 9370 got the 220W TDP but none of the clock

[nocturne flicker]

The splash of water is for putting out the fires the cpu causes

[olive plaza]

that's literally the packaging from the version of that chip which came pre-packaged iwth liquid cooling

that's why it looks like that

[nocturne flicker]

I know

[tranquil pebble]

The sad thing is that the FX brand was originally a great CPU under the Athlon 64 name

[olive plaza]

there was an AMD branded watercooler which is super interesting

[nocturne flicker]

It was a joke

[olive plaza]

It really was

until Core 2 stomped it

[tranquil pebble]

yeah Core 2 was the beginning of horrible times for AMD

[olive plaza]

FX-60 is handily beaten by a basic E6600

[tranquil pebble]

then nehalem showed up and sealed the deal

[olive plaza]

Phenom II was competent for its time

[tranquil pebble]

competent yes but it couldn't keep up with Intel still

[olive plaza]

but AMD was behind from the launch of Core 2 until the launch of Zen

which is 2006 to 2017

crazy to think about

[tranquil pebble]

FX almost bulldozed AMD

[olive plaza]

What's crazy is AM3+ still being on PCIe Gen2

[nocturne flicker]

It drove a pile of bad luck onto the company

[olive plaza]

Through the end of 2016 if you built an AMD gaming PC you were limited to Gen2

meanwhile Intel had been on Gen3 since Ivy Bridge in 2013

[tranquil pebble]

Zen 1 was like an uh oh moment for Intel... then Zen+ and Zen 2 started building even more pressure...

[olive plaza]

I know someone who worked at Intel in 2016-2017.

He said there was a tenseness in the air

[nocturne flicker]

FM2+ had Gen 3

If you were building AMD and not using their APUs, you were stuck with Gen 2

[upper rain]

they were really behind until Zen3, Zen 2 was only competitive because it was cheap

[tranquil pebble]

the laptop version of that supported ECC but the desktop version did not lol

[upper rain]

and mind you that was after 5 consecutive generations of Intel reusing the same architecture, really 6 if you count broadwell which is sort of halfway skylake

[upper rain]

specifically sold for cheap. it was more expensive to produce than Intel's CPUs, barring the i9's because of Intel binning the crap out of them

[tranquil pebble]

it took a long time for a CPU to come out as a worthy upgrade over the 4790k I had

[upper rain]

the 10900k yielded so poorly that Intel had to make a second i9 SKU (10850k) with slightly lower boost clocks to avoid chucking 99% of their 10 core yields into 8 core i7's

i can't imagine how bad the 10900ks must have been to bin...

[tranquil pebble]

Wasn't that around the time Intel was getting super desperate

[upper rain]

i think they were stressed by coffeelake refresh, but rocketlake was when they really went mental

mfw Intel launched a generation slower than the previous one, with fewer cores than the previous one, on the heels of AMD releasing a more efficient CPU that's like 30-50% faster

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pointless-sad-run-futile-gif-25822185

[tranquil pebble]

Intel seeing AMD casually launch of bunch of 8c16t CPUs when they were still doing 4 must have been a serious wake up call lol

[olive plaza]

Yeah I had honestly forgotten about the people building a 7850K with 750Ti back then

[upper rain]

the crazy thing is had Intel simply launched a 6 core SKU against Zen 1 i don't think anyone would have purchased Ryzen at all

why buy something with like 10% faster MT performance when you can get something negligibly slower with like double the the single threading

Intel lost the plot with Skylake

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-better-call-saul-gun-heisenberg-gif-27155752

[olive plaza]

It's wild how just a small number of changes could have made all the difference

[upper rain]

yah

[olive plaza]

Change #1 - not have the stupid cutoff between 1151 and 1151v2. Allow Z170 and Z270 users to go to an 8700K or 9900K

we already know it's possible with coffeetime

If they'd allowed that

[tranquil pebble]

to make matters worse for Intel... the rise of Epyc started really eating into enterprise

[proud jackal]

[olive plaza]

and Change #2 would have been for 8700K to be released instead of 7700K

because 7700K was just 6700K with lipstick

and dropped Win7 support

both of which were minor uplift over 4790K honestly

these reasons all together are why so many people kept their 4770K and 4790K systems for 10 years

[tranquil pebble]

4790k was the last Intel CPU I bought

[olive plaza]

Man if you had a 4790K with 32GB of DDR3

like, you started with 16

and updated later

[tranquil pebble]

I did

[olive plaza]

you were set until Zen3

honestly

4790K is faster than anything AMD made through the FX years

[upper rain]

i'm investing in NVL and ARL

i'm glad i didn't buy alderlake like i wanted to because RPL melts and i don't trust it in anythibg mission critical

[tranquil pebble]

we'll see

[upper rain]

so functionally a single gen socket for my use case

which tbf so is ARL, but ARL is actually wicked fast and for dirt cheap

[olive plaza]

LGA1954 is going to be interesting

I wonder if AMD's going to update their I/O chiplet before it launches

[upper rain]

Zen 6 gets a new IOD

[olive plaza]

because well, AMD's already behind af

4 sticks at DDR5-3600 is pathetic

[upper rain]

yeah, even my cheap z890s have RADICALLY better io than my higher end b650

[olive plaza]

and no CU-DIMM support in the year of our lord and savior 2026 is stupid

I'm still curious if we're getting any more AM4 action

AMD hinted at it

what would be super cool is getting Zen3+ with a DDR4 controller on AM4

like a Ryzen 6000 series

existed on laptops already, maybe they have some compute cores that weren't that good with low voltage

[tranquil pebble]

cursed idea: Zen 1 CPU with DDR5 controller on AM5

[nocturne flicker]

Coming to mobile in 2027

[olive plaza]

What's funny is you're not that far off from the crap AMD has been pulling on laptop

[tranquil pebble]

yeah ik

[olive plaza]

You have to be so careful with AMD mobile now

bc you could end up with Zen2 and LPDDR5

[rancid juniper]

rename of a rename of a rename

amd mobile certified

[olive plaza]

Intel: "14nm+++++++++++++++++"
AMD: Hold my beer

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[tranquil pebble]

up next: Zen-

devolved Zen

[olive plaza]

Zen-

Oops! All E-Cores

unless AMD already did that

which they might have

[tranquil pebble]

or... oops we ported Phenom II to DDR5 and put it in a laptop

[unreal trail]

1000 for ram alone

[olive plaza]

Nope so far even the cheapest chips with Zen4c "little" cores still have a single full Zen4 core

they haven't gone full Zen4c yet

though it could be an interesting idea

[dusk knot]

hm

[queen briar]

beer filled AIO

wait no... warm beer sucks

taste bad

dont do that

[queen briar]

when you gunna do a windows vista

[queen briar]

vishera CPUs... hmm

[nocturne flicker]

Return to FX on mobile

It is inevitable.

FX 9590HX

https://tenor.com/view/laptop-gif-26065254

[dusk knot]

hot

[olive plaza]

It's not relevant

Considering Vista SP2 and Win 7 RTM are the same codebase, there's no games that work in Vista but not 7

[olive plaza]

I bought several GFWL games just for the idea of getting Xbox live achievements

I don't know

But the point is, if you have Win7, you can play any games that advertise Vista compatibility

[dusk knot]

not by default

[nocturne flicker]

It was something that support was added for in an update during SP2 iirc

[rancid juniper]

wow

[dusk knot]

oh

whats the spec on that card?@rancid juniper

[nocturne flicker]

How many lanes does that use? Surely it doesn't need all four lanes for 300mb/s and 740mb/s

[dusk knot]

my greatest game..oh my god

[icy ore]

Damn son

36 kills

Oh wait no 50 kills 36 final hits lol

[rancid juniper]

ssd inside is super nerfed

tho, it could just be the reviewer's reader https://www.storagereview.com/review/seagate-storage-expansion-card-for-xbox-series-xs-review

[rancid juniper]

well done

insane accuracy too

[dusk knot]

@rancid juniper my own teammate said i should touch grass.....

[rancid juniper]

with the hours you put in the game i don't think they're lying

[dusk knot]

[rancid juniper]

that aside, dang yall crushed the other team

[dusk knot]

i got the lowest downvotes...the cost of success

[dusk knot]

more like i did

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-suffering-from-success-this-so-cute-what-a-lovely-morning-oh-ma-gad-gif-11233135040670052230

[rancid juniper]

yes yes of course

[olive plaza]

i just got my tax return, and I'm trying to make the most of it. looking for new shoes

who here knows how to hunt for a deal on shoes

[dusk knot]

I just go to Burlington Coat Factory and hope i find something nice

[olive plaza]

thats not a bad idea

there's one like 15 min from my house too

[dusk knot]

great!

[proud jackal]

Must be nice to have money

[nocturne flicker]

Theo_5090fe
Also: Theo_poor

[proud jackal]

Yes

[olive plaza]

Just found a pair of "new, worn once" shoes in my size being sold on FB marketplace for 5 bucks

same distance away as Burlington

gotta love it

[proud jackal]

Did you give it a sniff test

[potent robin]

https://www.myjournalcourier.com/news/article/live-nation-ticketmaster-antitrust-verdict-22208855.php?utm

BOOM! Now there's the proof that everyone's been getting taken advantage of by Ticketmaster!

TLDR: Jurors agreed with the coalition's claims that Live Nation requires artists who use amphitheaters it owns also to use Live Nation event promotion services, and that it overcharged for primary concert tickets at concert venues nationwide.

It's Monopoly!

[cobalt charm]

job

[nocturne flicker]

And when the court decides the punishment, the results shall be: a $5 fine

[royal crow]

Only way to safelybhave a monopoly is if there's no company in any space to compete with you, which is what I wanna do

And then use that position to cause prices to plummet

[potent robin]

I'm hoping they split the company down the middle, that would be a sight to see.

[nocturne flicker]

Realistically the company would be broken up into many different branches that would be forced to compete with each other

Unfortunately reality is much more disappointing than what logic dictates should be the end result

[potent robin]

Sigh... then there's also this:

Somehow we've hit the recession so hard that prices are going in full reverse

Can AI Centers just ...... stop?

[nocturne flicker]

The free money train can never stop until the people profiting say they want to get off at the station

[royal crow]

*fake money

[nocturne flicker]

The free fake money train

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/fp1XeQWMAMA?si=HfUIYlJoPVC29K_Q

[nocturne flicker]

Made of the stuff they are stealing from us

[opaque sedge]

Outlet stores for typical name brands

New balance (ik dad shoes whatever) outlets have pretty sweet prices on their stuff

[nocturne flicker]

Our clean air, our clean water, our land, our money, our personal data, our influence on the world around us and our lives

[sinful blade]

Job

[potent robin]

I go with Asics, so comfy and great for running

[opaque sedge]

Reminds me… u guys hear of the unprofitable shoe company turning into an AI company now

Its legit that south park episode with Randy

[cobalt charm]

thank you

sorry roomba i live in a poor place i can't help :[

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-job-application-get-a-job-akira-job-application-gif-8274337411388777231

[potent robin]

https://www.businessinsider.com/allbirds-ai-pivot-data-centers-success-2026-4?utm -- nuts

[opaque sedge]

FUUU SUBSCRIPTION

[potent robin]

TYYY Adblocker

Also a Javascript Switcher if you're feeling fancy

[velvet summit]

What if you made a hat out of your own hair and you wore it

[queen briar]

why would you do that when you can just leave your hair alone and its already a hat

[velvet summit]

For when you become bald

[queen briar]

i wont be bald, ill have hair

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/LmdmxQZpgLY

[royal crow]

Don't they make shoes

[potent robin]

It's someone elses shoes now

[royal crow]

Lmao

[heady plinth]

Is it some quadro thing instead of a 2050?

[nocturne flicker]

That is going to be the itchiest hat that man ever wore

[velvet summit]

It's just a felt hat

[sinful blade]

You’re okay friend
Don’t worry

Nice pfp

[nocturne flicker]

It is minimally processed wool, it'll be itchy

[dusk knot]

Hm

[wraith fern]

i wish i was an insider trader man

i wouldve made bank!

😂

[sinful blade]

Quick
Who knows Steve Jobs

Oh wait

[nocturne flicker]

He's dead Jim

[worn wave]

I read into it and they sold to a bigger company a little while back so I think that company is just leveraging the name and assets to get into ai

[potent robin]

YOU CAN'T MILK THOSE!

[sinful blade]

https://youtu.be/FCARADb9asE?

[dusk knot]

Star trek!

[sinful blade]

He’s dead Jim, dead Jim, dead Jim

Ye cannot change the laws of physics

[rancid juniper]

na, mx570A

[dusk knot]

Wow ...the amount of drugs needed to make this must've been absurd

don't do drugs. kids.

[sinful blade]

It was star trekking across the universe

[sinful blade]

That was one of my first emails

[proud jackal]

MONKA

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/shrekz-måns-gif-18419042315870360893

[dusk knot]

unless?

[nocturne flicker]

Unless prescribed by a doctor

[dusk knot]

why yes

[nocturne flicker]

Very important

Take advantage of it while you are still on your parents' healthcare

Or else

[dusk knot]

about that

[nocturne flicker]

What

[dusk knot]

I'm no longer under it

😔

[nocturne flicker]

Sad

Neither am I

[dusk knot]

if I die, I die

[nocturne flicker]

I've got ACA subsidies tho

[dusk knot]

GOOD

[nocturne flicker]

I have to squirrel away 35-40% of my paychecks to maintain access but the health insurance at work is bad enough that the sacrifice is worth it

The plus side is my sister will have a nice 401k package when I croak so

The premiums for the work insurance and the price of medicine under it was practically enough to make up the difference anyways

[velvet summit]

Don't do kids drugs

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[velvet summit]

[opaque sedge]

@ashen swan new keychron mice

Damn nvm they expensive

[random osprey]

first one looks like they just grabbed the shell of the finalmeme mouse and filled in the holes

[bitter ridge]

That doesn't look very carbon fiber

[random osprey]

lamzu and pulsar shells on the right looks like

[proud jackal]

do i need a new mouse

[random osprey]

no, time for rtx 6090

pricing of those new keychron mice are like barely under the normal pricing of other mice

[bitter ridge]

Ram more expensive hence resulting in lower cpu sales as well

Probably an ambitious goal but I hope my Harpe Ace extreme lasts 10 years

[bitter ridge]

Not a fan of remakes and wish they just worked on a new game which has combat like Ac Valhalla

[rancid juniper]

ubisoft is desperate to make some money back so they had to remake the one AC game alot of people like

[bitter ridge]

I feel like the combat of Mirage and Shadows is a downgrade compared to Valhalla

[opaque sedge]

Do several brands order their mice from the same factories or smth?

[random osprey]

lot of mice and mousepads are made in china and use the same manufacturers and often use the same exact materials hence why at a certain point mice and mousepads start to feel the same

which is also why theres a lot of the chinese clones of mice like the gpro clone, viper clone and such which are either defects or they barely make changes and ship them off with the same specs for cheaper

i have like 3 glass pads from different companies that came from the same manufacturer im pretty sure

[opaque sedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PcBuildHelp/s/pat0l4vV12 💀

[safe cape]

https://tenor.com/view/issou-drole-marrant-rire-rigoler-gif-6142116

[bitter ridge]

Hope that they don't release it close to GTA 6

[rancid juniper]

lol

[rancid juniper]

just saw the announcement video earlier today, game looks promising

I only played metro 2033 but didn't finish last light or tried exodus yet

[worn night]

https://klipy.com/gifs/joe-bartolozzi-bart-fart-1

[opaque sedge]

Someone delidded the cpu and managed to return just the shell to amazon prolly got a full refund too 💀 but this poor sucker ended up paying the price

[safe cape]

prototype edition 💀

[opaque sedge]

What no microcenter does to a person

[rancid juniper]

what i felt before microcenter had its grand opening back in 2024

[onyx merlin]

Whats oldest GPU you all still got in your posession folks ?

I stilll have my old GTX 960 4GB GPU in storage as a emergency backup same with my old RTX 2070

Currently using 4080 Super.

[worn night]

gtx 580

[opaque sedge]

…

4070super…

[onyx merlin]

I mean

[random osprey]

a gtx 980. dont have my old gtx 970 or gtx 650 anymore since i sold them during bovid

[onyx merlin]

it should be standard practice to keep backup GPUS

[nocturne flicker]

What the dog doin

[onyx merlin]

makes no sense to toss old gpus if they work

[opaque sedge]

I need to figure out what to do with it instead of letting it collect dust

[worn night]

can I has

coolsmile

[onyx merlin]

4070 Super you could if you dont want to keep it as backup

likely sell it for a few hundred

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-22669238

Its muh baby

[onyx merlin]

possibly 200-300 mabey depending on ware and tear or more

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-druski-gif-2006985137477142190

[worn night]

uh more than that

[onyx merlin]

499-$750

used apparently.

[worn night]

less than 750

[worn night]

its glorious

[onyx merlin]

humm I wonder what my 4080 Super would fetch

[opaque sedge]

Guys rgb or no rgb

[worn night]

rgb

[onyx merlin]

RGB

[worn night]

get a better rgb rear fan dangit

[opaque sedge]

That rear fan is pushing 3000 rpm

Dont underestimate it

[worn night]

but no rgb so its worse automatically

[opaque sedge]

[onyx merlin]

I am guessing 780-880 bucks

for 4080 Super used.

[worn night]

1000 dollars

[onyx merlin]

shit dam

[opaque sedge]

Not worth it

[onyx merlin]

could buy a decent AMD GPU wit that

[opaque sedge]

A thousand is even more not worth it

💀

[worn night]

lol its the market

[onyx merlin]

the only downside to AMD is shit GPU temps

[opaque sedge]

https://a.co/d/06byuvlF i wanna get this fan ngl

No rgb tho

[bitter ridge]

5090( I pass down my gpus to my siblings after upgrading)

[opaque sedge]

Hello brother

[onyx merlin]

u going to upgrade to 6090 when it comes out ?

[bitter ridge]

Yes

[worn night]

imagine

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/hamstermert-gif-4959950239614197565

[onyx merlin]

still AMD GPUS dont strike me as long lived

[opaque sedge]

6090

69

[onyx merlin]

they strike me as a gpu that dies within 2 years

due to horrible temps

[opaque sedge]

They strike me as gpus that somehow manage to age badly in a matter of one generation

[worn night]

They strike me as gpus

[opaque sedge]

Rdna 3 buyers got shafted

Unlike ada lovelace buyers

Its no wonder the 50 series (even excluding the 5090) did so well this generation despite not much of an improvement

[onyx merlin]

But I guess if your on a budget or dont care about longetivity like your replacing in 2-3 years or less

AMD might do ok

[bitter ridge]

Yeah there is practically no competition in the gpu space

[onyx merlin]

I mean Nivida is the soild choice if you got the cash

[worn night]

at least B580 crushes the competition at its price point

[opaque sedge]

Nvidia is pretty much the only choice in a lot of buyer’s minds

[onyx merlin]

I mena well AMD dosent really make sense much unless your on a budget

[bitter ridge]

Also dlss 5 probably will get better and we will start warming UpTo it like people warmed UpTo frame generation

[onyx merlin]

AMD is also mega noisy

from what I heard

[opaque sedge]

Mega noisy?

[onyx merlin]

suposdily it sounds like a fridge being in your room

[worn night]

its not amd its the board partners

[onyx merlin]

likely due to poor construct

[worn night]

very exaggerated

[onyx merlin]

of very cheap trash componets

[worn night]

no

very much not the case

[bitter ridge]

These are not the reasons Radeons sells less

It is more because of software features

[opaque sedge]

Also just saw this post on reddit, guy upgraded his cpu but did not seat it properly and thus pc wont power on, people in the replies telling him the cpu isnt seated properly and mfer replied with a screenshot of him asking chatgpt if the cpu is seated properly or not to which it replied it is… https://www.reddit.com/r/pchelp/s/fPOudscDUI absolutely cooked man

[onyx merlin]

well person with Ryzen 7 7800 should go cry in rage

and get a refund lol

[worn night]

this noob

asking chatgpt for pc help

[opaque sedge]

Absolutely infuriating response to someone trying to help

[bitter ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d17xPQdkf0 probably something like this if you don't care about the price,how thick it is and weight

[opaque sedge]

I found out where the smuggled nvidia chips are going in at china https://youtube.com/shorts/4RhI6drvLcw?si=1HO7n2oaFugDa2KT

[safe cape]

install your pc on that screen

[bitter ridge]

Impressive from the ps5 pro

[safe cape]

nice

[random osprey]

what about normal mode or whatever mode they have

[opaque sedge]

It’s comparable to a 9060xt or 5060ti

[icy ore]

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/stoned-cat-stoned-cat-funny-huh-gif-19222132

Just tune your fan curve man

[onyx merlin]

I guess

Now I am going to go Tune my brain

aka sleep.

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/zBmVL6NEOb8?si=ou-6GwmSv2-kMHcr

YouTube is trying to scare me!!!

[opaque sedge]

Is meat on there

[random osprey]

everything is on there