general-chat

[lone mango]

i like the other one better

[velvet summit]

That looks a bit goofy honestly

[lone mango]

the one with two speaker grilles

[acoustic palm]

oh i woudlnt get it

[velvet summit]

Goofy

[nocturne flicker]

I think it is interesting. I'd never get one but it is a neat concept

[velvet summit]

Autocorrect

[acoustic palm]

next case im getting will be small

[stark otter]

What am I doing with hwinfo

[lone mango]

three speaker grilles looks weird

[velvet summit]

Fan grilles

[acoustic palm]

go to monitoring

[velvet summit]

It really does look like speakers though lmao

[lone mango]

[velvet summit]

That was my first thought 😭

[stark otter]

I don’t see monitoring

[nocturne flicker]

Well they are also filters so...

[velvet summit]

Launch hwinfo64, select sensors only

Technically speaker grilles are less for filtering than to protect the speaker cones

[acoustic palm]

sensor

[velvet summit]

Alot of people prefer them off so you can see the sexy drivers wibble wobble

[acoustic palm]

s

[lone mango]

nah dem shits got three speekur grills awn derr

[velvet summit]

But you want them on if you have pets or children

[stark otter]

next?

[velvet summit]

Because they WILL poke them

[acoustic palm]

look for cpu and gpu temps

[velvet summit]

Children are the bane of the existence of naked speakers

[lone mango]

good

[acoustic palm]

yes that

[nocturne flicker]

We have speaker grilles but speaker grills wen? Blast the food with soundwaves

[velvet summit]

Run a game

[acoustic palm]

CPU Die (average)

[lone mango]

now run a game

[stark otter]

cod?

[lone mango]

those temps look good though

so idk if there is cooling problem

[acoustic palm]

yes cod

smth more intensive

[stark otter]

maybe no xmp was the problem

[velvet summit]

Idle temps don't tell the full story anyways

Unless you're overheating on idle

Which then there definitely is an issue

Tho.... Temps may be worse since you remounted the cpu without repeating since you don't have any more paste afaik

[nocturne flicker]

It will worsen temps

[velvet summit]

If I'm remembering the right guy

[stark otter]

nah i found some paste

[velvet summit]

Oh

[dense locust]

i remember when i ran my 9800x3d at like 800 MHz

[acoustic palm]

did you ust

[dense locust]

good times

[acoustic palm]

put more on

[stark otter]

ye wiped old off

put new on

[acoustic palm]

isopropal?

[stark otter]

kinda

[velvet summit]

You don't need to clean it that much

Just a towel to wipe off the majority and you would be fine

[stark otter]

i used antiseptic wipes

[nocturne flicker]

You just gotta give it that hawk tuah

[velvet summit]

You shouldn't do that in the future since antiseptic wipes may leave a residue

[nocturne flicker]

Revive all the dead memes

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/trololo-hi-gif-5030223

[lone mango]

Peak

[nocturne flicker]

That video was actually peak

[lone mango]

Very nostalgic

[nocturne flicker]

That man made what he was singing so much more entertaining

[velvet summit]

My jam

[stark otter]

Lmao I can’t find a game on cod

Ts is dead

[acoustic palm]

3d mark then

[stark otter]

Is that an app?

Okay I got into a cod game what am I looking for

[acoustic palm]

temps

[acoustic palm]

yeah thats great temps

what abt gpu

[acoustic palm]

also good

ok those are fine

[lone mango]

not even good

amazing

[stark otter]

so why the low fps

[acoustic palm]

whats your fps now

[lone mango]

because something else was causing that problem

[lone mango]

did u turn on xmp

[stark otter]

I’m trying to get into the main map but can’t find a game

I’ll be able to tell if there’s been an fps increase

[lone mango]

perfect timing

[stark otter]

I’ll just run a benchmark on cod

Okay seeing some fps increase

Nothing drastic tho

[acoustic palm]

get 3d mark demo on steam

[rancid juniper]

(I gotta clean the glass) this is the biggest GPU I have, does it look like it's sagging?

[acoustic palm]

nh

but like go get some lego or smth and make a support

[rancid juniper]

Dust everywhere, aside from that I'm using this provided by the case

[acoustic palm]

oh yeah then its fine

[lone mango]

oh so that is why it is so straight

nice

[rancid juniper]

I'd get triggered if I see it bend slightly

I think my 6700xt is the last gpu that didn't need a sag bracket

@acoustic palm stellar blade is surprisingly a good test for an undervolted 9070 XT

[acoustic palm]

i just used 3d mark

[rancid juniper]

that software is not enough lol

[acoustic palm]

idk

worked good enough for me

[rancid juniper]

if the gpu is able to get through the first cutscene of stellar blade just fine then it can literally play any other game fine

atleast theres a demo for it

[acoustic palm]

i also used uh

cyberpunk

[rancid juniper]

RT?

[acoustic palm]

yes

[lone mango]

Yeah for undervolts you need variables

[rancid juniper]

mmm alr, though in my case it allowed for higher undervolts and games like spiderman 2 and stellar blade demanded less

[lone mango]

100% load is not good

[sinful blade]

Did you guys help @stark otter

[lone mango]

Like in my case, I was on a menu for 20 minutes and then crashed

[rancid juniper]

seems like they're fine

[lone mango]

Never crashed at 100% load

[sinful blade]

I wasn’t on to respond to dm

[rancid juniper]

which game?

[lone mango]

I crash at 50% load though

[lone mango]

I was in the navigation menu on warframe

[rancid juniper]

funny how not being in-game can be the most sensitive

[lone mango]

This was running while I was doing something else on the computer

I was looking for jobs and I had a desktop reset

Perfect timing

[rancid juniper]

i heard elden ring is also a good test, that game doesn't take much

[lone mango]

I remember also crashing when doing a specific mission on warframe where the gpu was boosting really high

I also had crashes on deep rock galactic when playing solo

[rancid juniper]

interesting

[lone mango]

The game is very easy to run when playing solo, so the load is very low and very variable

Perfect for testing undervolt stability

Also gta 5 story mode with rt is really good for whatver reason

[rancid juniper]

wish mines were binned higher but its much better than 0

[lone mango]

If you can sit in the ammunation menu for a while then you are good lol

[acoustic palm]

oof

i can run -120mv and +350mhz easily

[rancid juniper]

I also ran -120mv only on steel nomad, then -105mv for port royal

[lone mango]

I thought 120 was stable for me until I had crashes in very specific scenarios

[rancid juniper]

for the games itself well it had to go MUCH lower

[lone mango]

Like I was mentioning above

[rancid juniper]

ye

[lone mango]

Then I went down to 110, then 100 crashed yesterday

at 90 now and this should be fine

[sinful blade]

I keep forgetting to save my UV

[lone mango]

also having the video encoder running while the gpu core is under lower loads is good too

that can also help you crash

[rancid juniper]

I do like that with adrenalin you can set undervolt profiles PER game but I'd rather have it stable universally

[stark otter]

Should I oc my gpu and cpu, just max it all

[acoustic palm]

i have fast boot on so i cant have my oc profile save when i start my pc

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[stark otter]

About to run the 3D mark

[sinful blade]

Do it manually

Look up the best overclock for your particular models

[lone mango]

are you playing the game on max settings

[stark otter]

All low settings

[rancid juniper]

turn it off, your pc should still boot quick anyways

[acoustic palm]

meh

[rancid juniper]

cmoooooooononnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[acoustic palm]

i dont oc anyways rn

[rancid juniper]

alr

[stark otter]

So with the benchmark what am I looking for

Or not looking for

[acoustic palm]

youll see the average for your specs

[lone mango]

for the cpu you can turn on pbo and something called the curve optimizer, but you need to test its stability

[acoustic palm]

youll want to be around it

[rancid juniper]

OC your components one at the time

don't do both

[stark otter]

What would give more fps oc a cpu or gpu

[rancid juniper]

when one fails it is easier to figure out which is the problem

[rancid juniper]

depends on the game

[acoustic palm]

for you, cpu

[stark otter]

Warzone and apex

[rancid juniper]

huh

[rancid juniper]

i guess gpu?

[stark otter]

what does that mean

[acoustic palm]

youre totally fine

[rancid juniper]

above average

nice

[acoustic palm]

try timespy

[stark otter]

so why am i only getting 120fps on wz

[rancid juniper]

5600x, okay try to OC your cpu first when you're done testing 3dmark

[stark otter]

timespy on steam too?

[rancid juniper]

could be cpu limited scenario?

did you mention you play the game on all low?

[stark otter]

ye all low

[rancid juniper]

def a cpu bottleneck

i suggest Overclocking cpu or raising your graphics settings

[stark otter]

wouldnt raising graphics make fps worse

[rancid juniper]

make sure vsync is off + fps is uncapped

[rancid juniper]

no

[lone mango]

since you are cpu limited, no

unless the settings impact cpu performace

but that is more rare

[rancid juniper]

is ryzen master still supported?

[lone mango]

pretty sure yeah

[acoustic palm]

no

no no no no no

[rancid juniper]

lol

[acoustic palm]

do NOT use ryzen master

[rancid juniper]

thought it would be easier for them to use

[lone mango]

not the biggest fan of it but it never gave me any issues

i would recommend setting the curve optimizer values yourself

[acoustic palm]

just use bios

better safe than sorry

[lone mango]

two ways to go about it

you can use it as a reference and see if you crash with ryzen master

if you dont then its fine

[acoustic palm]

just use bios

legit 0 reason to use ryzen master

[rancid juniper]

bro got ptsd with the ryzen mastah

[stark otter]

How do I oc my cpu

[rancid juniper]

whats ur board bro?

[acoustic palm]

BIOS

[lone mango]

you do it in the bios or with a program

[stark otter]

Msi b550 toma

[rancid juniper]

ill find you an oc guide

[stark otter]

Should I oc my gpu too

[rancid juniper]

wait is it the MAG model?

[lone mango]

no

[stark otter]

I’m not sure

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[lone mango]

cpu first

[stark otter]

Think it is

[rancid juniper]

download this: https://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/cpu-z_2.18-en.exe

[stark otter]

Yes mag

[rancid juniper]

ok

[stark otter]

Bro how long is this time spy benchmark 😭

[acoustic palm]

long

[stark otter]

Like more than 10 mins long?

[acoustic palm]

5?

[rancid juniper]

cpu score kinda funny

[acoustic palm]

ok yeah youre good

[stark otter]

so what am i oc ing

[rancid juniper]

CPU

[stark otter]

how am i doing it

[sinful blade]

Trade me your gpu
Trust

I have a 9060xt 16GB you’ll like
Trust

[rancid juniper]

So there are two ways

1. BIOS
2. Software (Ryzen master)

[acoustic palm]

2 can have issues

[rancid juniper]

Bios is more technical but is safer
Software is easier but might have issues ig? (never used it)

i have used intel tuning utility before and it does what it needs to but eh i just use BIOS

[stark otter]

i need that

[sinful blade]

Give me your 4080 and you’ve got a deal

[stark otter]

so am i doing bios or software

[acoustic palm]

BIOS

[sinful blade]

One day the 9060xt will have the same perf
Gotta get that fsr4 and other stuff improved first

[stark otter]

okay im in bios now

[elfin mural]

i like the new alienware aurora 16x but god damn is it expensive

the all metal shell is amazing tho

[dense locust]

Will the next gpu be the 11060xt?

[rancid juniper]

noticing that the 9050 doesn't exist

[elfin mural]

alienware fee+premium fee

[acoustic palm]

youre looking for precision boost overdrive

[dense locust]

That’s the 9060

[acoustic palm]

alienware pcs are terrible 😭

[rancid juniper]

😳

[stark otter]

You might not want my gpu apparently I don’t treat it right and it sags

[elfin mural]

i'll never buy one anyway

[stark otter]

Sag?

[elfin mural]

let alone their laptops even though they're good now

they're just so goddamn expensive

[rancid juniper]

IT BE SAGGIN

WHOA

[stark otter]

Lmaoo why do everyone acting like this so bad

[sinful blade]

Holy sag

[acoustic palm]

your gpu can break

[sinful blade]

It can destroy your gpu and mobo

[rancid juniper]

because it is, gpu will crack

[sinful blade]

Pcie lane can snap off lmao

Prop that up with literally anything

[dense locust]

If this was a 50 series fe card it would be even worse

[rancid juniper]

this is why fat cards shouldn't exist

🗿

[acoustic palm]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[lone mango]

In extreme cases, the actual chip itself and/or the memory chips can literally separate

[sinful blade]

My 9060xt is so small it can’t sag

[dense locust]

I like my miku gpu

[acoustic palm]

new amd cards will have the naming scheme of 1xx imo

[rancid juniper]

miku taxed

[dense locust]

Asus tax with small Miku tax

[acoustic palm]

miku is an apex sponsor

[stark otter]

I can’t get into bios ffs

Spamming delete shit not working

[dense locust]

You can restart windows in such a way that it restarts into the bios

[lone mango]

I have seen gpu repair videos where the core separated from the board and it took some of the pads off with it

[rancid juniper]

OH YEA

[dense locust]

https://youtu.be/FwVHkI3hF4Q

(Ironic)

[stark otter]

Where do I find this

[acoustic palm]

search

[lone mango]

So he had to heat the core and take it off, then reconnect new pads to create the connections again

[dense locust]

Where’s the warrant

[rancid juniper]

heh

[lone mango]

I don't like his videos because of how he talks about this stuff

Like ok I guess buy nothing

Nothing at all

[dense locust]

Dont buy anything

[rancid juniper]

nice ddr speed, looks like xmp is working

[stark otter]

Found it

[lone mango]

He is a good tech but has shit takes

[stark otter]

Which option should I pick

[acoustic palm]

hey gang

your bios is from 2023

[rancid juniper]

OC tab

[stark otter]

Is that a good thing

[acoustic palm]

its 2026

what do you thiknl

[stark otter]

No AI

So maybe good

[sinful blade]

Spoiler alert

[lone mango]

[rancid juniper]

lol

[acoustic palm]

no

[sinful blade]

Not good

[stark otter]

Does bios 2023 matter

[acoustic palm]

itll help a lot with oc stability

[stark otter]

Which option

[lone mango]

If you have issues, yes it does, but since it is so old, you should consider updating it anyway

Sometimes there are security vulnerabilities

[rancid juniper]

thats kinda spooky

[acoustic palm]

Enabled i believe

[stark otter]

Anything else

[acoustic palm]

can you set a number for it

[stark otter]

Mode 1-4

[acoustic palm]

no like

try mode 1

[lone mango]

What does enhanced mode 1 even mean

[stark otter]

Idek

[lone mango]

What did just the enabled option show

[stark otter]

I’m trying to oc my cpu

Nothing just says enabled

[lone mango]

great job msi

[sinful blade]

~~ (Someone just have him use Ryzen master) ~~

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-anime-sad-gif-27615865

[rancid juniper]

sleep

i gotta sleep

[proud jackal]

i took tylenol pm

[lone mango]

I did bring that up as an option

[rancid juniper]

why

[stark otter]

Okay ryzen master it is

[rancid juniper]

do not save your bios settings

[acoustic palm]

no

wait

[rancid juniper]

😮

[lone mango]

Ok so those enhanced modes are pbo presets set by msi

[stark otter]

Shit I’ve left the bios now

Shall I go back I

1
😭

[acoustic palm]

yes

[stark otter]

I’ll just put on number 4

[lone mango]

No

4 is probably unstable

[stark otter]

3 then

[sinful blade]

Honestly at the point, might as well

[stark otter]

Okay bios or Ryzen master

You guys are the tech gurus

[acoustic palm]

BIOS

unless you wanna risk your cpu even more

[lone mango]

Risk a crash, not the cpu lol

[sinful blade]

Yeah lmao

[stark otter]

Okay so what number on that shall I do

3?

[acoustic palm]

sure try 3

[stark otter]

There’s an advanced setting?

[lone mango]

I don't even know what the presets settings are

Do advanced

[stark otter]

Nah it shows this

[lone mango]

What comes up on advanced

[acoustic palm]

perfect

@sinful blade

[lone mango]

Ok go to curve optimizer

[stark otter]

So what’s next

It’s disabled

[lone mango]

Turn it on

[stark otter]

Says all cores or per core

[lone mango]

All cores

Per core takes a lot of time to nail down

[stark otter]

Now shows this

[acoustic palm]

hmmmm

[lone mango]

Change it to negative

[acoustic palm]

-20 to start with?

[lone mango]

Then type in 15

[lone mango]

After 15

[acoustic palm]

fair

[stark otter]

So negative and -15

[lone mango]

-20 is also not too aggressive not not all can go below 15

Yeah

[stark otter]

Next

[lone mango]

Do 15 and then increase the clock override

Go back to the other menu and go to clock override

[lone mango]

here

[stark otter]

Enable positive or negative

[lone mango]

positive

[stark otter]

Two options

[lone mango]

for how much to add... not sure exactly

[lone mango]

your board can do +300

But I doubt the stability on that

So do 200

[stark otter]

We ball then 300+

On which one

[acoustic palm]

nonooooooo

do not start with max

try like 200

[stark otter]

On which option

Max cpu boost?

[lone mango]

cpu boost clock override

[acoustic palm]

Max CPU boost

[lone mango]

yuh

do 200

300 is most likely too high

[acoustic palm]

iu mean

[stark otter]

What about platform thermal throttle limit

[acoustic palm]

tbf

he is running an aio on a 5600x

[stark otter]

Shall I lowkey do 250?

[lone mango]

i know im not worried about temps

it will probably crash is what i mean

start safe and slowly move up

do 200 for now

[stark otter]

Leave like this?

[lone mango]

if a week passes and you are fine, then make the curve optimizer lower

[lone mango]

yuh

[stark otter]

Okay back to cod?

[acoustic palm]

3d mark

timespy

[stark otter]

Okay

[lone mango]

play the games and bench it with something

[stark otter]

What about my gpu

Shall I max that mfer

[acoustic palm]

hm

eh

make sure the cpu is stable first

[stark otter]

Suprim x surely the x means it meant for maxing

[lone mango]

ideally you would download something like corecycler, which is a program that varies the load on your cpu to test its stability

but do 3d mark and the games for now

[stark otter]

I’ll download that now

Got a link to download that?

[lavish stag]

yo, I don't have any conflicting pr ograms that wouldn't make rgb work on my device

[stark otter]

Running timespy brb

[acoustic palm]

signalrgb 👍

[lavish stag]

my fan hub is connected too jargb....

i just tried it

only my keyboard worked

[acoustic palm]

weird

[lavish stag]

yeah

i tried open rgb and msi aura sync thing

"which the fans were supposed to be good for aura sync but they didn't even get recognized"

there is this one weird thing tho. You know that small button next to the power button that some cases have that lets you choose the rgb of the fans? That button no longer works. Its now a button that just restarts my pc...

any ideas....

[stark otter]

@acoustic palm @lone mango

[acoustic palm]

500 points up

[stark otter]

is that alot?

[acoustic palm]

thats like high single digits

thats p good

[stark otter]

okay any other changes?

[lone mango]

cpu score went from 7981 to 8500

that is a nice jump

[stark otter]

gpu oc?

[acoustic palm]

try that corecycler first

[lone mango]

no hold off on that lmaooo

[stark otter]

idk how to download it lol

cant find a link

[lone mango]

https://github.com/sp00n/CoreCycler/releases/tag/v0.11.0.0

[stark otter]

Which one

[stark otter]

Corecycler not working

[proud jackal]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/109737/nvidia-basically-exiting-high-end-pc-gaming-in-2026-kills-off-rtx-50-desktop-and-laptop-gpus/index.html

[stark otter]

Okay that helped the fps a good amount @lone mango @acoustic palm

We need that gpu oc and I might hit 200 fps on wz

[acoustic palm]

if youre on all low settings gpu oc wont do much

[stark otter]

Do I boost cpu more then …

[acoustic palm]

eh

wait a few days

[lone mango]

that is to be expected

when you are heavily cpu limited, big gains can happen

[stark otter]

If i do update after a few days

What should I change

[lone mango]

there is only so much you can do with a cpu that is very far behind the gpu in terms of raw power

[stark otter]

Do I click run core?

[acoustic palm]

-20 on the curve and 250 on the boost

[lone mango]

it is probably not even hitting 200 all the time

just to 20

[lone mango]

yeah but let that run for a while

[lone mango]

mine doesnt even do +200 all the time and i have -40 rn

depends on the load of course

[stark otter]

Shows this when I click run

[lone mango]

dawg i cant even read the whole error

is it still zipped

[lone mango]

the program is still zipped

you need to uncompress it

[stark otter]

Done that same error

Says file parameter doesn’t exists

[lone mango]

interesting

it is quite literally supposed to work

[lone mango]

Yup there it is

[stark otter]

what should i do

[lone mango]

y

So I think that file error means whatever you were trying to run was in a different directory than the session you were currently in

What was it that fixed the error

Were you running somethine else

[stark otter]

I think I didn’t extract properly

[lone mango]

Ah ok

[stark otter]

How long is this gonna run for?

[lone mango]

That is actually a great question

Hold on

[stark otter]

So far says this

[lone mango]

damn

error already

[stark otter]

Is that bad 😭

[lone mango]

well at least you didnt crash

[stark otter]

What does that error mean

[lone mango]

so what you should probably do is decrease the offset for that core so it can be more stable

[ashen swan]

are we fr

[lone mango]

prime95 is a number cruncher

and that core failed a calculation

due to instability

[lone mango]

ok so cores 2 and 6 should be a lower number than the rest

remember when i told you about all core curve optimizer

i guess now we do single core and set core 2 and 6 to be a different number

[stark otter]

2 and 5 you mean?

[lone mango]

oh right

text is small looked like 6

[stark otter]

okay lemme go bios

[lone mango]

thread 10 duhh

[stark otter]

Where should I go again?

[lone mango]

the path to it is here

ok

curve optimizer

[stark otter]

Per core

[lone mango]

yup

[stark otter]

All negative?

[lone mango]

yeah

[stark otter]

Okay so 2 and 5 what numbers

And the rest which

[lone mango]

-12

rest 15 since those were fine

[stark otter]

Okay done

That 200 should I bump that up?

[lone mango]

nah

[stark otter]

Okay bet I’ll run the test for it tomorrow

[lone mango]

focus on stabilty

[stark otter]

Appreciate all your help bro have a good night

[lone mango]

you can run it overnight if u want

[lone mango]

all good

[stark otter]

I’ll just do it tomorrow

[lone mango]

i gtg too ngl lol

alr peace

[lone mango]

That man went from knowing nothing to ryzen autism overclocking

Great arc development

That fella learned a lot

[dense locust]

"im putting 1.5v into the cpu"

[acoustic palm]

2v or bust

[lone mango]

It can actually take that

Not sustained of course

[dense locust]

i think i use 1.2

i forgot how to check

[lone mango]

Peaks are fine

[dense locust]

do i need to go into bios?

[lone mango]

Are you talking about vsoc

[dense locust]

ye

[lone mango]

Oh I was talking about vcore

1.2 is the default

vsoc should not go above 1.3

[dense locust]

[lone mango]

I think mine is 1.15

[lone mango]

1.185

[dense locust]

cpu goes to 80 degrees on max load

[acoustic palm]

💀

[dense locust]

i hear thats pretty good for a 98x3d

[lone mango]

I wanna go lower and see when it freezes

[acoustic palm]

thats NOT pretty good

thats like ok at best

[lone mango]

I think below this gets finnicky

[nocturne flicker]

You know for someone who had to go, you are being very talkative. Just saying

[lone mango]

What is the wattage

[lone mango]

I was gonna sleep but got caught up and now sleep is delayed

[nocturne flicker]

Sad

[lone mango]

Peak sleep schedule

[nocturne flicker]

I got caught up budgeting

Must plan out 401k contributions at 4am

[dense locust]

invest in ram

[nocturne flicker]

No

[lone mango]

fr

[nocturne flicker]

401k, not speculative assets

Need tax deductions

[lone mango]

I think this js good

I am used to itx temperatures

But I am pretty sure this is good

[dense locust]

what do you get on a max load on the 78x3d?

[acoustic palm]

sub 70c

[dense locust]

what wattage?

[acoustic palm]

idk

default

i insta crashed with any oc on it

[dense locust]

you cant oc a 78x3d i think

[acoustic palm]

dang

[lone mango]

After all, 142 watts on a single ccd is good that you are not near throttling

[lone mango]

I think you can do pbo

Just not actual manual overclocking

[acoustic palm]

pbo insta crashed

[lone mango]

Great

[nocturne flicker]

Speaking of OC I think my ram OC is stable

[lone mango]

Honestly bruh I just did buildzoid timings and then tightened primaries

[nocturne flicker]

Couldn't go very far with it because I think it is a pepeg die

[lone mango]

At least on the 7500x3d

[nocturne flicker]

Can't get proper info on it because half the info is not listed when checked

[lone mango]

I assume others can too

[nocturne flicker]

It is what it is

[lone mango]

I am not a ram expert but that does look pretty good

[nocturne flicker]

It better be good, it took me like 8 hours to get a stable clock for something that isn't going to have noticeable perf increases

[lone mango]

Truth

Maybe if you took out that 3d there would be something to gain from this

[nocturne flicker]

Don't worry I still have my broken 5900x

[lone mango]

If I had x3d I would not care about this stuff

[nocturne flicker]

I can resolder pins to it and use that instead

And then I'll notice a .1% improvement

[lone mango]

Ok lol not 1%

Oh ok I saw that

Well not this either

[nocturne flicker]

I still can't believe I borked that 5900x almost instantly

[lone mango]

What did bro do

[dense locust]

It got scared

[lone mango]

Didn’t want to get milked for every single %

Reasonable id say

[dense locust]

I still don’t know how to overclock ram

Nor do I never want to

[lone mango]

Math

And weeks of patience

[dense locust]

Too many settings

[lone mango]

If you know nothing it will take a very long time

[nocturne flicker]

I bought it used with like, 3 bent pins for a little cheaper than a 5800x3d at the time, fixed the pins, went to put it in while my PC was still on my desk because my case is very heavy and I was too lazy to pick it up and put it on its side. Immediately missed when putting it in and snapped 2 of the pins I fixed, which just so happened to be required pins

[lone mango]

Damn bruh

Fortunately I never had any break after so many years

[dense locust]

Just stick a wire in the socket
Trust

[lone mango]

I did have some bend though

[lone mango]

This has actually worked for people

[dense locust]

Why are cpu pins so delicate again?

[lone mango]

When I was building my first pc, my dad wanted in on some of the action

He was screwing in the stock cooler and did one screw all the way

3 pins got bent on the corner

Great job dad

[nocturne flicker]

Because thin rods of metal are fragile

[dense locust]

Theoretically
Could you turn am4 into an lga using a whole bunch of wires

[lone mango]

Malleable

[dense locust]

No I mean why do they have to be thin

[lone mango]

Resistance

[nocturne flicker]

Because of pin density

[lone mango]

And you need many of them

[dense locust]

Am6 has even more of them right?

[lone mango]

It could

Depends on how they engineer all the signaling if that is the right word I am looking for

[nocturne flicker]

AM4 isn't so bad when it came to pins, it still has fairly thick pins compared to some pga cpus

[dense locust]

Damn guys

I hope am5 is good

[nocturne flicker]

PGA Pentium 4 had very very thin pins from what I remember

[lone mango]

Well he wasn’t too far off, it does have 1718 pins

Just it has pcie 5 instead

Oh wait

600s were 4

[dense locust]

Even cheap 800 still might have 4

Criminal tbh

[lone mango]

When the board stops you from using the full lane bandwidth your cpu has

Because zen 4 did have pcie 5 PHYs

Do die shots look kinda eerie to yall sometimes

[elfin mural]

they look like

a whole city network

[bitter ridge]

Yeah similar to the grid of NY

[ashen swan]

Chat

Which one should I use for a 900X400 desktop

[opaque sedge]

WHERE’S MY GODDAMN 5080 AMAZON

https://tenor.com/view/idfk-gif-3761179052566277881

[ashen swan]

oops

[tranquil pebble]

based

[opaque sedge]

Its 9:30…

Still stuck there

https://tenor.com/view/mike-o-heam-giga-chad-gigachad-sigma-male-gif-14252379233135682789

[opaque sedge]

Almost 11 now…

Still hasn’t left for delivery

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-sad-cyberpunk-monkey-boggington-monkey-depressed-sad-gif-16296597746991157726

[cedar compass]

[remote geode]

chat

my dualsense is borken

i wanna repair it instead of getting a new one

[velvet summit]

Ok

[remote geode]

i don't have any precision bits though

should i get one from ifixit or should i just grab a random set from china

[velvet summit]

Depends on how much things you want to repair

But spend at least $30 on a kit because anything below is dogshit

[remote geode]

yeah, the ifixit electronics toolkit are like, 30usd

[velvet summit]

I have the pro tech go kit from iFixit and the bits are solid

[remote geode]

which comes with other tools rather than just bits

i kinda wanna get into tinkering and doing basic repair for other people

and maintenance

just for friends and stuff

[remote geode]

yeah, i was debating that

the ugreen bit set is like, 15usd, but it's only bits

[sinful blade]

How about

[velvet summit]

I do like the iFixit screwdriver bit case since it has like a thing for organizing the screws you take out

Though there are probably cheap Chinese driver sets with that feature as well

[sinful blade]

Get a 8bitdo ultimate 2C and just call it a day

[remote geode]

this one?

[sinful blade]

$20

[remote geode]

i like my dualsense tho

[sinful blade]

Nuh uh

[remote geode]

it fits more nicely to my hands compared to controllers that are xbox-like

[sinful blade]

I’ve switched from an Xbox controller and now I can’t go back

It’s smaller than the Xbox controller

More comfortable handles

That and never having to charge or reload batteries >>>>>

[remote geode]

also, one more thing

[sinful blade]

[remote geode]

i like ps glyphs more than xbox's

i don't like the letters

call me crazy

[velvet summit]

I mean
That's pretty mediocre advice
They already have the controller and want to try repairing it which is a good thing

[remote geode]

xd

[velvet summit]

Maybe if they were looking for a new controller

[sinful blade]

It’s an alternative

[remote geode]

yeah, the facebuttons are broken

[sinful blade]

Oof

[velvet summit]

Broken?

[remote geode]

unless i apply ridiculous pressure, my presses won't register

[sinful blade]

I got a new Xbox controller last time that happened

[velvet summit]

Probably just needs a clean then

[opaque sedge]

U guys think valve’s gonna delay the steam controller alongside the steam machine…

[velvet summit]

Pretty simple fix though requires basically a full disassembly

[remote geode]

it might be something related to the contacts in the film

[sinful blade]

Yeah
Buildups are pretty common

How old is your controller

[remote geode]

3-4 years

surprisingly no stick drift too

[remote geode]

yeah my friend used to do it for me

but he's busy right now with the radio i asked him to repair

aaaand i want to get into repairing my own things

[opaque sedge]

NOOOOOO

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/keara-chan-girl-keyaru-redo-of-healer-anime-smug-gif-13738782364838167196

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

[proud jackal]

I DIDNT MEAN IT IM SORRY

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/so-pissed-im-work-mad-gif-23416426

No seriously, Theo. All these hardware prices going up are all artificial.

So that we can get to this point

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/jimcarrey-dumbanddumber-gif-5394418

[dusk knot]

Disgusting

They're just going to generate more money

Not funny

[rancid juniper]

JEFF BOZO TERRORIZING PC

[dusk knot]

I see why Johnny silverhand had to do that thing with Arasaka

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/dillom-rage-dog-angry-dog-gif-17954176246139200797

[dense locust]

Takes time to switch it out for rocks

[elfin mural]

wake up samurai

it's time to steal ram fron bezos

[dusk knot]

It's OUR RAM now

I want to see how good those HBM modules are

For gaming ofc. 🔥

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-kermit-the-frog-meme-worried-kermit-sad-kermit-gif-2908512056935738589

[velvet summit]

I wish 5 grand would just fall on my lap with no strings attached

I have so many things that I want to get
Such as a thermal camera to fix my variable psu

Or a rack mount mixer

Along side a bunch of cables

[opaque sedge]

U can fix a psu

[velvet summit]

I wouldn't recommend trying to repair a PC psu

But it's not a PC psu

It's a bench DC PSU with a voltage range of 0.01v to 30v

And is useful for troubleshooting or temporarily powering electronics of many types

[rancid juniper]

No
No
No

Leave that to the pros

[acoustic palm]

i got 4k with no strings attached once

😭

[velvet summit]

What did you do with the money

[acoustic palm]

invest

i was forced to

[velvet summit]

Oh

Well

In a sense there were strings attached

[acoustic palm]

no

it was a random check from the government i got one day

[velvet summit]

In a sense

[acoustic palm]

my parents said that i have to use it for investing

[velvet summit]

The strings were forcibly attached

[acoustic palm]

cause im bad with money

😛

i was fully ready to drop it on a specced out gaming pc

[velvet summit]

I mean, it definitely is smarter

[acoustic palm]

smarter things are boring though

i wanna spend money stupidly

[nocturne flicker]

4k ain't enough for investing unless you gamba hard and win big on a stock

And it is significantly harder to gamba and win big if you've got a small account due to PDT rules

[acoustic palm]

i mean it kidna is?

ive made some good money off it

[nocturne flicker]

It is fairly easy right now because there is an asset bubble in the tech sector. Just follow the AI money and you'll win something, but in normal economic times the only way you'd see growth like the bubble stocks is if you gamba with penny stocks

And penny stocks is gambling

[acoustic palm]

i mean true i did invest in an index fund and am up a LOT

[velvet summit]

I mean
One of the main reasons to invest is to make your assets either retain value or appreciate in value

Most savings accounts (especially when the balance is just 4k) would have an interest rate below inflation

Sure, the value is liquid so you can take it whenever

But I'd assume they are not in a situation that they would need 4k immediately

[nocturne flicker]

4k would not see significant growth with CG distributions and dividends, the traditional investment, which is just throwing the money at a S and P 500 fund and sleep, would get the average 12% growth yearly with some years being high and some low. 12% on 4k is slow if you aren't adding money to the 4k frequently

[velvet summit]

I don't think the point is to make alot of money, I'm like 80% sure their parents? Just want them to save the money for the future e.g. house or car or school or smth

[pliant berry]

that reminds me, i should prob just sell my meta stonks at this point

[velvet summit]

I'd assume they'll only need to access the money in like 5 years more or less

[dusk knot]

Hm

[nocturne flicker]

Mmm

[opaque sedge]

@rancid juniper u jinxed me

[rancid juniper]

What did I do 😭

That's just Amazon shenanigans

[nocturne flicker]

The almighty Bezos looked at your order and said no

[rancid juniper]

Jeff bezos after seeing someone buying computer parts:

[lone mango]

Grr i need to be a parasite more just give me ur pc parts

[opaque sedge]

U dont think it might be stolen right…

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-kermit-the-frog-meme-worried-kermit-sad-kermit-gif-2908512056935738589

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-got-em-gotcha-say-no-more-car-smirk-gif-9078554153387260973

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/aniyabea-yt-man-stare-ab-yt-man-stare-aniyab-gif-10494397403125281154

[rancid juniper]

Can't say, I never bought gpus on amazon

[opaque sedge]

Am I cooked…

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-food-cooking-chicken-wings-gif-26162724

[nocturne flicker]

Honestly it is fine. Amazon is crap with shipping on a normal day

It'll probably be delivered on the 20th

[tranquil pebble]

While I was working for UPS, it wasn't uncommon for the drivers to poke fun at Amazon.

UPS has its own issues too though ofc

[opaque sedge]

My dad’s home that day…

[void pendant]

Do u pay for prime?

[dense locust]

I got a EVGA 750 B5 750W for $30
Bad idea or good idea

[opaque sedge]

My parents do

Only prime members could purchase that

Too

[void pendant]

u can complain and get like $10 back 🤣

[dense locust]

I wonder if Amazon keep track of annoying customers

[tranquil pebble]

most likely

[nocturne flicker]

They absolutely do

[void pendant]

If that was the case I would be cooked

[tranquil pebble]

they will have analytics data for everything

[opaque sedge]

They do flag accounts

And are obsessed with customer data

[nocturne flicker]

If you complain enough eventually you'll get a human to ban your account for being annoying

And then they send the Amazon police to arrest you

[dense locust]

People do abuse the free returns

[tranquil pebble]

Cyberpunk vibes

[nocturne flicker]

You get sent to a prison cell located in the remains of the Amazon rain forest

[dusk knot]

It's gone

Sorry

[dense locust]

I can fix her

[dusk knot]

She's gone, jim

[nocturne flicker]

Put her out of her misery

[dusk knot]

Also how does that happen?

🤨

[dense locust]

I’m looking at eBay posts

I should learn socket replacement

[tranquil pebble]

that sounds more painful than is worth

[radiant hornet]

Guys im lookijg to buy a prebuilt and one has 16gb of ddr5 and the other is 200$ more with 32gb of ddr5 which should i go for? My current pc has 16gb of ddr3 and i dont play any ridiculous games that are resource intensive

[acoustic palm]

just wait on buying a new pc

[dense locust]

Are the other specs the same?

[radiant hornet]

Yes

[acoustic palm]

whats the pc

do you have a link

[radiant hornet]

https://www.costco.ca/msi-pro-dp180-desktop-computer-intel-core-i7-14700f---32gb-ram-1tb-ssd-8gb-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060.product.4000416028.html

The other one is the exact same with just 16gb of ram for 200$ less

[dense locust]

Why are pc builds like this

14700f
5060

[radiant hornet]

Wdym

[dense locust]

Pretty high end cpu

[radiant hornet]

Yeah it is

[dense locust]

It costs more than the gpu

[radiant hornet]

Yeah i could also get one with a worse cpu for cheaper

[dense locust]

You could probably get at least a 5060ti 16gb for this price

[radiant hornet]

I might go with a cheaper one then sell the 5060 and get the 5060ti

[dense locust]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-cyclone-aqua-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-intel-core-i7-14700f-32gb-ddr5-1tb-nvme-ssd-ca14700f5060ti5/p/N82E16883360953?item=N82E16883360953

[radiant hornet]

There is one the same price as this with a 5060ti and 16gb ram should i get it

[dense locust]

32gb of ram, 5060ti 16gb same cpu

[radiant hornet]

Ok

[dense locust]

It’s also $100 less

[radiant hornet]

Im in canada so its more

Its not available in canada either so i will find one with those specs

[dense locust]

Ah I didn’t realize it was $1500 cad

Should’ve realized with the link tbh

[radiant hornet]

Lol

[dense locust]

Get the 32gb one

[radiant hornet]

Ok

[dense locust]

32gb for 1k usd is pretty good

Well like 1040 something

[radiant hornet]

Yeah

Thank you

[dense locust]

32gb of ram is expensive

[lone mango]

What the hell was intel doing back then bro this is crazy

This is rocket lake, 11th generation

[acoustic palm]

DUDE

windows tab is better than alt tab

hot take

[lone mango]

Depends

If alt do not work then windows

with alt u dont need to use the mouse

[misty sparrow]

I found an old CPU that just has “AMD FX” written on it with no numbers following FX. Any ideas on what model it could be?

[worn night]

only one way to find out

[misty sparrow]

I can’t turn it on

if that’s what your asking

[acoustic palm]

meh its easier for me with 3 monitors to have the windows tab

this thing is fire

[nocturne flicker]

Mmmmmm

[tranquil pebble]

I wish my laptop keyboard was tenkeyless ngl

kinda dumb to have the full numpad on a laptop where space is at a premium

[misty sparrow]

joker please I need this

my keyboard kinda tenkeyless

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[dusk knot]

Hello AI 🤖 brothers and sisters

[velvet summit]

i would have liked a numpad on my laptop as well

i had to buy an external one which is a pain

[dusk knot]

You just plug it in lol

[nocturne flicker]

JP AI bot, time for ban

[dusk knot]

Ha. foolish, human. it is I who has the power here. hahaha

[uncut gyro]

@olive plaza

[dusk knot]

damn, looks greats

[olive plaza]

nice

[uncut gyro]

witch port would i plug the bluetooth cord into agian?

[acoustic palm]

code geass time

[olive plaza]

#general-chat message

[sinful blade]

Guy is offering me a $125 Pny 1080ti blower

[spring stone]

@sinful blade really? Right in front of my Andy?

[sinful blade]

Really? Right in front of my ollie?

[acoustic palm]

man

this show is looking not far from the future

[sinful blade]

You should watch upload

[acoustic palm]

im watching code geass

alr got a ton of shows on my list

[rancid juniper]

nice

[velvet summit]

The lankyiest anime of all time frfr

[dense locust]

Code grass

[acoustic palm]

ong

[dusk knot]

I'm now realizing how bad DVD quality is

[pliant berry]

yup

[dusk knot]

We've been spoiled

[dense locust]

DVD is fine

On a tube tv

On a flat screen it looks worse

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-run-python-python-computer-python-coding-coding-funny-coding-meme-gif-10365831290651691441

[nocturne flicker]

On not in. Should've been put on the computer and not in it, duh

[worn night]

thatll fix it'

[nocturne flicker]

Ye

[dusk knot]

Terrible on my monitor

Going to buy an eternal Blu-ray player soon

4k Blu-ray isn't going to happen ):

[nocturne flicker]

Man, it'd be great to be Craig Schulman. At least he had a moderately successful career unlike me

[dusk knot]

You need extra software that costs hundreds

[dusk knot]

Feels great

[worn night]

Who even is bro

[dusk knot]

I'll be living the dream of being an explorer

In space

[dusk knot]

No one really in particular

[worn night]

I become the dominator

[dense locust]

I broke mine