#general-chat

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olive plaza
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The G SKUs for whatever reason seem to have higher quality IMC

tall pine
frigid stag
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yea g is monolithic

olive plaza
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Makes sense

frigid stag
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same with the 5500

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for some reason

olive plaza
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5500 is made on the same core

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It's a 5600G without graphics and lower clock

frigid stag
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that makes sense

tall pine
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On Zen4/5 which is what really got me into tuning, I have confidently say DR sticks are much more of a pain in the arse to tune than SR

frigid stag
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whatd you think was better though 5900x or 5950x?

tall pine
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And trying to get DR to run past 7600mhz 2:1 makes even patient OC enthusiasts want to quit.

frigid stag
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i heard 5900 x was faster cuz it can hit higher clocks cuz of thermals but idk

tall pine
frigid stag
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is strange, some bought it cuz of the higher core count for games but its like if you go over 6 youre into the 2nd ccd

tall pine
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Thankfully Zen5 doesn't have insufferable latency even when crossing CCDs and even better that scheduling is really good nowadays.

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For games it always keeps it to one CCD with minor exceptions like flarking fortnite

frigid stag
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for zen 4 i think the 8c 7700x was faster than the other non 3d ones, but for zen 3 there was no dip in benchmarks for the dual ccd cpus

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i guess games werent using more than 6 cores at the time with zen3

tall pine
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I managed to get my Minecraft to use all cores for chunk loading which has been nice.

lone mango
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About minecraft

tall pine
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Still massively ST but each chunk is using a separate thread to load.

frigid stag
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howd you do that

lone mango
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Did they fix the performance issues brought with 1.21.5

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Or is .4 still the highest I should go to

tall pine
# frigid stag howd you do that

I play on Forge and use a bunch of different rendering and chunk mods. I will find the name for you shortly if you'd like.

frigid stag
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maybe i shouldve given amd a shot for cpus got burned with fx/ early zen though kekw

tall pine
tall pine
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I will say having been a first adopter of X3D on Zen4 was rough.

frigid stag
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idk i dont think either of their new cpus have stuttering or anything

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but yeah am5 was kinda buggy at launch

lone mango
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My 9600x being like 55% faster than my 5600 in all core goes hard

tall pine
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Scheduling, Latency, Training, and other issues combined with two faulty 7950x3D during the early Zen4 adoption phase. My 7950x works flawlessly though and so does my 9950x3D.

frigid stag
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must be a lottery

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or just bios versions

tall pine
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My first 7950x3D has random crashes and my second had horrendous issues with getting stuck in memory training.

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Anyways, thankfully that's all been resolved in the newer revisions of the 7950x3D and Zen5 has been without issue.

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If you look carefully, old Zen4/early Zen5 CPUs have a different capacitor layout compared to the recent ones.

frigid stag
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i still think its a lottery. i know some who bought 7800x3d/7950x3d at launch and they worked fine

tall pine
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Also both of the failed samples used the older capacitor layout

frigid stag
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Lol might’ve been a mix of lottery and zen 4 issues

tall pine
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My 7950x and 9950x3D have the newer one. Easiest way to diffentiate is one side of the exposed PCB you won't see capacitors there.

frigid stag
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people still talk about usb drop outs and such on am5

tall pine
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That's fCLK related. Means they are either running it too high or they got faulty samples

frigid stag
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idk most of them are just regular guys running xmp

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they dont bother with oc

tall pine
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Stock is 1800 fCLK, boards set it to 2000fCLK or higher with XMP/EXPO.

frigid stag
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even jay2c had it on his 9800x3d where the mouse stopped working for a bit/ stuttered in game

tall pine
frigid stag
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might be a board issue or defective cpu

frigid stag
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was a bit sketchy

tall pine
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But yeah easiest solution is bring fCLK to 1800 if issues persist then it's a defective CPU or board. Though most likely CPU in my experience with AM5.

frigid stag
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did am4 have usb issues this far in?

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ik it wasnt the best with early zen 1/+ but later on it seemed fine

tall pine
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Currently working on seeing how far I can lower CO at +200mhz and no voltage offset. 1 core is at -25 and the rest at -40 so far with CCD1 disabled.

tall pine
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My B550M DS3H had it.

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Only on select USB slots though.

frigid stag
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ah so certain boards

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i just assumed it was the earlier boards only

tall pine
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Hmm I am doing 5.49Ghz average All Core in Karhu Cache+FPU

frigid stag
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nice

tall pine
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5.75Ghz for ST

frigid stag
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dang

tall pine
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Biggest limiter is the darn core at -25 CO. The worst core (based on CO) determines the all core boost for that CCD on ZEN 4 and ZEN 5.

frigid stag
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can you do 6ghz with smt off single ccd

tall pine
frigid stag
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yeah sounds like a good bin

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how do you know what the slowest core is

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does ryzen master show that or something else

tall pine
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I use Super PI to check the max frequency of each individual thread in a ST load and carefully observe both the instant and effective clocks in HWinfo

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If Core A can do 6Ghz at this -10 CO but core B can only do 5.88Ghz at -10 CO then core B is slower.

Also some cores can clock really high but don't like negative offsets.

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So it's a combination of needing the core to be able to accept a severe enough CO to tell the algorithm to boost that high and the silicon being able to actually boost that high.

frigid stag
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hmm i guess its different than intel then where you just set the clock speed and see if its stable in benchmarks

tall pine
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It's a lot more testing.

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I found that setting a large negative CO then using a positive VID offset works to trick the algorithm into thinking the cores are receiving enough of a undervolt then though I am using the offset to effectively eliminate or reduce it behind the scenes.

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Btw @lone mango it's VERY UNLIKELY that you have any die other than Hynix M.

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Since Micron and Samsung does tRFC in the +200ns range.

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And your cas scaling is much better. Plus Team group T-Create DIMMs use almost exclusively Hynix.

lone mango
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Yeah very likely that I have it

remote geode
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👏 thank 👏 you 👏 windows 👏 for 👏 breaking 👏 the 👏 recovery 👏 mode 👏

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gosh

frigid stag
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is old news

remote geode
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I'm having difficulties with it right now

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and I'm on 24H2, not 25H2

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Apparently there's a fix for it — but its currently still a Windows Insider release

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I'm currently diagnosing my PC and this bug isn't making it any better, hence the frustration and stress

mystic ruin
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Welp time to riot

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I figured out why my PC was randomly turning off

velvet summit
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sorry i keep bumping the power switch

mystic ruin
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Nah but yeah it was the strummer from lian li

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The middle 8 pin for the GPU I wiggle it a lil bit and boom PC turns off

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I reseeded the cable a few times and gave it some extra love ensuring it's properly seeded

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After that I played cyberpunk for about 30mins and no power off

tranquil pebble
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Whenever I need an OS that simply works I just boot up my Linux install. Can't even count on Windows for that anymore.

mystic ruin
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I want a dual pc setup

tranquil pebble
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When I finish my AM5 build, the AM4 will be turned into a personal server

mystic ruin
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I have a dedicated server already

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20tb Nas nothing crazy but it works

tranquil pebble
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the server will use Radeon Instinct MI50 for graphics

mystic ruin
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Nice

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I also built my own router

nocturne flicker
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When I do my AM7 build, my AM4 build will go on the bookshelf in a place of honor beside my pepeg FX build

tranquil pebble
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AM4 will go down as one of the most enduring sockets lol

mystic ruin
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Lol

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But I'm assuming it's overkill to have a 10 cores 20 thread CPU for a router but I wasn't using it for anything else lol

velvet summit
mystic ruin
tranquil pebble
velvet summit
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raid 5?

mystic ruin
mystic ruin
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A pain for initial setup but extremely useful once it's working

tranquil pebble
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overkill is not a bad thing unless you are breaking a budget to do it

mystic ruin
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They were spare parts lol

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I'm not even using that socket anymore

tranquil pebble
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then yeah dw about it

mystic ruin
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It was a i9 10900 non k

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And I paid 50$ for ddr4 64gb of ram

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I sent it to a 5 port 2.5gb switch then 2 eero max 7s

mystic ruin
tranquil pebble
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I might use my Orange Pi as a router at some point

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it has two 2.5 GbE

mystic ruin
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Nice

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The eero max 7s are no joke

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And I got a killer deal for 2

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Is it possible/worth it to make a Nas out of micro SD cards lol

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I got a ton of 128gb SD cards from work

tranquil pebble
velvet summit
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nice

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my power supply has new software that isnt buggy

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previous one threw weird errors that were like "g398g7s$%$g43g#$G6"

upper rain
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power supply... software?

velvet summit
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yeah

pliant berry
velvet summit
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not pc power supply

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lol

upper rain
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ohhhhh lol

velvet summit
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programmable power supply

upper rain
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gotcha that makes far more sense

velvet summit
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pc power supply software would be devious

upper rain
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i was sitting here thinking you were about to get blasted with 12v on the 3.3/5v rails because some intern screwed up PSU code lmfao

velvet summit
mystic ruin
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Out of curiosity what happened to nahtuhlay?

misty sparrow
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She left

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resigned i think

sinful blade
misty sparrow
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looks like my memory was foggy

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thanks for the correction

mystic ruin
misty sparrow
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by the way roomba those monopoly deals at mcdonalds are really good

sinful blade
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I have all but one property for everything

misty sparrow
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I went there today and peeled some stickers, got some properties but one of the things was two cookies or a mini oreo mcflurry

mystic ruin
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Wait since she moved to a different department she couldn't be a part of the server?

nocturne flicker
# tall pine AM7?

Well yeah, I am broke now and will likely not build anything for years derpyBlob

nocturne flicker
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McDonald's Monopoly has historically been rigged

misty sparrow
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I think back then somebody rigged the system so that his friends and family would always win

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won millions

nocturne flicker
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Incidentally I am also one property away from winning every item

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And since I am now 1 property away from winning a bunch of them, my win rate for code entries have suddenly declinedderpyBlob

misty sparrow
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How could they rig the physical peels you get from items though

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they can't adjust the rate for that

nocturne flicker
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Digital codes

misty sparrow
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yeah but just saying

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they can rig digital but not physical

nocturne flicker
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Someone has to distribute the physical codes to be put on the items

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If they decide to not put out specific properties except in certain scenarios, the game is rigged

nocturne flicker
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One dude stole the tickets for most of the high tier prizes and slowly distributed them and shared them with people he colluded with for 5 years in a row

tranquil pebble
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What I don't get... why do laptops exist with a Core 9 paired with a 60 class GPU...

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and they claim to be gaming laptops

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cursed unbalanced builds go brrr

nocturne flicker
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CPUs are cheaper than GPUs so they can sell higher end parts at lower price levels

misty sparrow
nocturne flicker
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Makes it look like you are getting a good deal

tranquil pebble
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lol ig the people who know about GPUs aren't the target audience for these laptops

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like $1500 for a laptop with a 4060M is awful. Idc if it has a Core 9, Ryzen 9 or whatever

nocturne flicker
mystic ruin
nocturne flicker
frosty sinew
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frickkk

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stupid motherboard

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my gpu disconects from my mobo whenever i put it under load

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untill i wiggle it

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tried different gpu and psus same isse

tall pine
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Does anyone here have experience with TEC/PELTIERS and or Direct Die?

frosty sinew
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yeah tecs suck

tall pine
# frosty sinew yeah tecs suck

I already know someone that knows how to run the 9800x3D sub-ambient and 50c under load in OCCT AVX512 drawing ~180w by using the TECs to chill the water in one loop and then have another loop to dissipate the heat generates by the tecs.

That said, I want to figure out how effective a stacked TEC setup would be if it's used in a Direct Die setup. Conformal coat the CPU, and motherboard around it, and the TECs will make direct contact with the dies, then use a loop or a massive air cooling solution to cool off the hotside of the TECs.

frosty sinew
tall pine
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Ideally I would like to make it small snough to stick inside of a Lian Li A3 or have like a 1ft^3 external cooling solution that I can pack into a box when traveling.

nocturne flicker
# sinful blade In the rules

Speaking of rules you have to keep the codes if you win any big prizes because they may require you present them for verification

rough sundial
frosty sinew
tall pine
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for a 180w 9800x3D. so about 2x tradeoff.

frosty sinew
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yeah but 50c under load

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you can get that with just more rads

tall pine
frosty sinew
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likely using the rads that were coolinbgthe peltiers

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will do that

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and you save 500w

tall pine
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That will put a 9800x3D to TJmax.

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I am open to ideas and solutions.

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But do keep in mind that is 50c in OCCT running AVX512.

frosty sinew
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money is also a factor hear

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my 9950x3d pulls 240w and runs 74c all core on just a 360 rad

rough sundial
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Bro what are we talking about o-o

frosty sinew
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peltiers are generally smaller yes

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but a huge waste

tall pine
frosty sinew
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what is wrong with ur chip lol

tall pine
rough sundial
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Is it better to have higher or lower number in cl?

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On ram

tall pine
rough sundial
sinful blade
tall pine
rough sundial
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Can swap mobo later

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Huh

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I was wondering if the tradeoff was worth it 💔

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Meanwhile i get new mobo

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Because 3866 seems to be bigger then 3200 so is 18 and 16

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So idk

tall pine
# frosty sinew

give me a minute, going to make sure I send you the same config I was sent.

rough sundial
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!ubm

boreal copperBOT
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rough sundial
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Needed link lol

misty sparrow
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For some reason the PassMark GPU comparison isn't sitting well with me

rough sundial
tall pine
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It should be OCCT CPU:

  • AVX512
  • Small Data Sets
  • Extreme
  • Fixed / All Thread

@frosty sinew

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I am going to run that as well once I am in windows to confirm

tall pine
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Weird datasets should be an option. Set load to steady so it's consistently heating up

frosty sinew
tall pine
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Test takes an hour

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In HWinfo check for thermal throttling

frosty sinew
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im still at 72c

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wait hows this diferent from ciniebnch

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cuz cinebench pulls more and temps are lower

tall pine
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Cinebench doesn't use the AVX512 instructions.

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AVX512 is a much harder set of instructions that cause the CPU to generate far more heat.

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Also unlike Cinebench this is a lengthy test to make sure you completely heat soak the cooler.

frosty sinew
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i mean

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u prob got thermal interface issues tbh

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this is a 360 rad

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and an aio

tall pine
frosty sinew
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im 10 minutes in and its still 78c

tall pine
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That's good.

frosty sinew
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ugh this dumb motherboard

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i hate it

tall pine
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I am hovering at 79c currently

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Just started.

frosty sinew
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like why

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everytime i load my gpu

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it shuts off my pc

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untill i wiggle it

tall pine
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Tf?

frosty sinew
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its a slot issue

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gpu and different psu same issue

tall pine
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80.6c now

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I will be back

frosty sinew
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alr

tall pine
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I am bouncing between 78-81c. This is with a -25 All Core CO.

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Back to the topic on hand.

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Are you aware of any chiller about 1ft^3 that can cool off 300w?

chrome mirage
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My first time seeing a spicy pillow in person and it was 2 devices at once. My grandpa kept my grandma's old iPod and iPhone on the charger for years.

frosty sinew
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even smtg from fbmp

tall pine
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Emphasis on small.

frosty sinew
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damn well thats a lot easier

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i mean that one is 12x15x13

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so its p small

tall pine
frosty sinew
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yeah

tall pine
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Because that's doable.

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About a 1ft^3 would be ideal.

frosty sinew
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is that a concern

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they are like 50lbs

tall pine
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Hmmm that'd be about the most I can do. United forces luggage to be 50lbs or less. I can pay overweight but that's a pain in the ass.

frosty sinew
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i mean

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thats like 1200w of cooling lol

tall pine
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Really?

frosty sinew
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14 x 12 x 12

tall pine
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I didn't realize those little chillers were so capable.

frosty sinew
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well i mean 1/2hp pump

tall pine
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What does the pump have to do with cooling other than flow within a chiller.

frosty sinew
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i mean ac compresser

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sorry

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but ac compressors are around 3x the cooling

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so 1/2 hp pump will do 3/2hp cooling

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veryyy rough estamates tho

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according to chargpt

tall pine
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I guess next question would be how cold it gets.

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I assume this consumes way less power because it's a chiller and not a tec?

frosty sinew
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yes by far

tall pine
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What would be a rough estimate?

frosty sinew
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about 400w or smtg

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1/2hp is around 275w

frosty sinew
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aropund 7c i think

tall pine
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I am wondering if it can go below zero if I mix Glycol into the water like my pal with the TECs does.

frosty sinew
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youd likely have to spoof the sensor

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compressors arent exactly a turn on and leave on thing

tall pine
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Do chiller pull full power constantly or variable based on coolant temp?

frosty sinew
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i mean you can try tecs if you want, they are simpler but you may have to diy a lot of it

frosty sinew
tall pine
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Hmm gotcha. Part of why I am so interested in this is I am working on my cos right now and Core 0 on CCD0 is doing 5.7-5.75Ghz flat with -75 CO.

frosty sinew
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yeah

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i mean single core loads tecs are more viable

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its just once you start pulling power

tall pine
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Temps

tall pine
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Ideally I would like to keep my CPU below at 30c under load at 300w

lone mango
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linus jumpscare

tall pine
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So it's above ambient but very cold

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@lone mango you think I can get 5.75ghz to work at -90 CO?

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Currently at -75

lone mango
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i didnt even know you could go that low

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i thought -60 was the lowest

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at least on the boards i used

tall pine
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Mine lets me set it down to 100 iirc.

lone mango
tall pine
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Holy smokes it posted lmfao

lone mango
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game stable

tall pine
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Currently testing with SuperPi.

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Holding 5.75 steady with drops to 5.7 which changing calculation

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@frosty sinew you think a 1/2hp chiller can keep a 300w CPU, 450w GPU (I plan to upgrade to a 5090 in the future) within 40c load?

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@lone mango I am gonna try -100 now lmao

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Post or no Post?

lone mango
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post

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game stable

tall pine
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@lone mango @frosty sinew my board lets me set negative CO down to -255

lone mango
tall pine
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MSI for the win!

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Trying -100.

tall pine
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HOLY IT POSTED

tranquil pebble
tall pine
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Lmao, @lone mango it's still running.

tranquil pebble
tall pine
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Debating going lower with the co

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With the spikes between tests I am averaging 5.72Ghz on the core with -100 CO.

mystic ruin
tranquil pebble
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I'm putting a 96 GB DDR5 kit in my desktop

tall pine
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I am trying to decide.

mystic ruin
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Bro wanna send me some ram 😭

tall pine
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Do I try -125 CO next or more conservative drop from -100?

mystic ruin
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I tried downloading it

mystic ruin
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32gb kit lol

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I had corsair dominator plats 64gb but they were 5600mhz

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I still have them just choose not to use them

tall pine
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@lone mango Damn, well -125 posted but crashed.

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I am gonna try gaming at -100

lone mango
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I had -50 for a long time but I never did any true testing

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It never crashed in any games or compilation

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Or even editing

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But I turned it down to -45 anyway

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I swear it posted a little faster after that

tall pine
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-50 on what cpu?

lone mango
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Or just a coincidence

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9600x

tall pine
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oh neat

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What you on now?

lone mango
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-45

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Actually I have been on windows for a bit so I should just get core cycler

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I did occt variable load on linux but that’s not the same as core cycler

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Im still gonna get core cycler anyway

nocturne flicker
craggy shoal
royal crow
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Wdym

craggy shoal
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Rain chance on rain chance and there's still no rain here yet

royal crow
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Bruh

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It's bad tho

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Be glad it's not hitting u

dusk knot
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While you have a storm, I have a hurricane on my way

weak cedar
craggy shoal
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It's not even a problem yet

craggy shoal
weak cedar
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Does that count?

tall pine
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@lone mango -100 is game and bench stable.

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Played War Thunder this whole time

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no issues

worn night
sinful blade
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All clear over here

sinful blade
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Which one? I think I like the first more, but the second has a vibe

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8bitdo ultimate 2C btw

misty sparrow
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Second one

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I think it looks better

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Also pretty sure 8bitdo controllers go on sale pretty often, what's the price rn?

sinful blade
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I like it, but the colour palette needs swapped

misty sparrow
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the one on the right?

sinful blade
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Left

icy ore
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Yeah I think the one on the right is better

sinful blade
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Right is green

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Welp
My giftcard only covered the mint colour so I guess I’m getting that one

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Apparently the same price green one sold before I could check out

frosty sinew
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Okkkk

nocturne flicker
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Who slapped orange and pale green together and said that it looks good

frosty sinew
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So 3 of the pins are a lil too far in

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Imma try bending them out a smidge

sinful blade
nocturne flicker
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That is Orange

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The Mint one is Seafoam Green with Orange

frosty sinew
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Ok pins bent back

nocturne flicker
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The pink and peach one is fine. Seafoam green and orange is not okay

tranquil pebble
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I never had much reason to pick this up, but I can not pass up a 90% discount on a game that actually looks interesting

icy ore
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Apparently the campaign is phenomenal

tranquil pebble
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yeah that is what I just bought it for...

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and at $2.99, it would have to an absolutely horrid campaign to be not worth that

sinful blade
spice plover
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Can someone find me a pc under 1000 i know nothing abt pcs

sinful blade
spice plover
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Prebuilt

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It seems like a scam tho ,48% off…

sinful blade
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No it’s not good

spice plover
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Can u find me one

sinful blade
dense locust
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9060xt 8gb

sinful blade
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It’s ass

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But there’s nothing better at that price point

dense locust
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I’d say save for a better pc

sinful blade
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Yeah

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@spice plover

honest birch
honest birch
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can give you a parts list

spice plover
honest birch
#

1k usd?

spice plover
#

Yep

#

Max

honest birch
#

ok 1 sec

honest birch
#

unfortunately ram is expensive rn due to manufacturers switching most of production over to server memory rather than consumer

#

could maybe save some money by getting a used 2x16GB 6000 CL30 kit.

dusk knot
royal crow
#

oof

spice plover
dense locust
#

Just replace the 9060xt 16gb with a 5060ti 16gb

spice plover
#

K

#

Is amd better than intel?

#

And ryzen

dense locust
#

For gaming, yes

spice plover
#

What about price wise are u getting more for what u pay

dense locust
#

Well at this price point ehhhh not really but you have future upgrade ability

spice plover
#

What would be a better option though

dense locust
#

More expensive stuff Stupidwow

#

Jk this is probably the best you can get for around $1k

sinful blade
#

At $1k it’s a bit tight for all parts

spice plover
#

What about the rtx 5070 that was released a few months ago, doesnt it perform
like a high end one. (Thats what i heard)

sinful blade
#

It’s gonna be out of your price point

spice plover
#

How much more i might be able to slide a bit more in

craggy shoal
frigid stag
dense locust
acoustic palm
dense locust
#

Hey they wanted NVIDIA

#

Give them NVIDIA

acoustic palm
#

2 it sucks for performance and has low vram

frigid stag
#

funny how the 1000$ builds didnt move in over 2 years and even regressed a bit

#

you had 3070s or whatever now 9060XDD

acoustic palm
dense locust
#

My last pc was $1200 and had a 70 class card

acoustic palm
#

you can get a 9070 with 1200

dense locust
#

This pc has an 80 class card and costs over 2x

acoustic palm
proud jackal
#

i wish i had a nice pc

dense locust
spice plover
#

Well im just tryna play apex and cod at around 240 on low sets so idk if thats like hard or easy to reach

acoustic palm
#

gg

dense locust
frigid stag
#

exactly its a downgrade

acoustic palm
#

and you dont need anything nvidia offers for apex

frigid stag
#

yea youre not getting 240 on a 7600 in cod

acoustic palm
#

youll just be wasting money for a name

frigid stag
#

14600k you probably could

acoustic palm
frigid stag
#

lol

dense locust
#

NVIDIA is pretty good for productivity

acoustic palm
frigid stag
#

for gaming

spice plover
acoustic palm
#

if youre only gaming get amd unless youre getting ultra high end, or find a good deal on an nvidia card

frigid stag
spice plover
#

Damn

dense locust
frigid stag
#

need 14600k

spice plover
#

How much are those

acoustic palm
frigid stag
#

idk like 150-200

frigid stag
spice plover
#

Oh then ill just switch to that lol

frigid stag
#

zen 4 is lower ipc than 12th gen xd

acoustic palm
frigid stag
#

it is way faster

acoustic palm
#

its faster

#

not way faster

spice plover
spice plover
#

K

#

What gpu to pair

acoustic palm
#

9060xt or 9070

spice plover
#

Then i might aswell just get a prebuilt?

frigid stag
#

is true

acoustic palm
spice plover
#

Its around 150 to get someone to build it though isnt it

frigid stag
#

probably

acoustic palm
#

depends on like a lot

frigid stag
#

that can get you a better gpu

acoustic palm
#

wait first of all

#

whats your country, whats your budget, is there any other use case than apex and cod at low settings

frigid stag
#

but yeah 14600k and at least a 5060 ti or higher

acoustic palm
frigid stag
acoustic palm
#

look at the right one

spice plover
frigid stag
#

techtubers try not to run slowest ram possible challenge

acoustic palm
frigid stag
#

its pretty equal, was something they said in the 6900xt vs 3090 days

spice plover
#

Is newegg the best site to look for that

acoustic palm
#

for a prebuilt? ig

#

although i would heavily recommend bulding it yourself

spice plover
#

Yea no theres gonna be plenty of crunching id be hearing

#

I dont trust myself at all

acoustic palm
#

trust me its really easy, just watch a few tutorials

spice plover
#

Ima just stick with a prebuilt then upgrade parts after a while

acoustic palm
#

i mean you can

#

but youre not even gonna get 240fps in apex

#

its not 42% better in gaming though...?

frigid stag
#

This is a game and no its like 20-30 if both are tuned

acoustic palm
#

then show a game average benchmark

frigid stag
#

it gets its ass handed by a skylake cpu if you dont use 3200cl16 not surprising a 14th gen beats it

spice plover
acoustic palm
#

thats not getting 240fps in apex

spice plover
#

I get less in cod than apex

acoustic palm
#

no

#

i was getting like 130 on my 3060ti lmao

frigid stag
#

skill issue then

acoustic palm
#

ok

#

thats what i got though

#

1440p all settings lowest

spice plover
#

My pc is so shit i have a i7 4790 and a SIX gb gtx 1660 ti

#

And runs 90 so i really believe that it woukd get 240

acoustic palm
#

a 5060? eh

#

you would get close but you wouldnt have it all the time

frigid stag
acoustic palm
spice plover
frigid stag
#

well yeah makes sense

acoustic palm
spice plover
acoustic palm
#

i mean i would say probably for like non intensive scenes

spice plover
acoustic palm
#

but when theres a lot of stuff happening idk

acoustic palm
spice plover
#

No clue what vram is

acoustic palm
#

you have to buy a new gpu to upgrade vram unless youre like insanely skilled

spice plover
#

Oh

#

Whats vram do

acoustic palm
#

uhhh

#

more vram means you can have better textures at higher resolutions

frigid stag
#

ram for your gpu

acoustic palm
#

higher resolution = more vram usage, higher textures = more vram usage

#

your fps gets HUGEEEE drops if you run out

spice plover
#

Oh

#

Yikes

frigid stag
#

and thats with a 12400

spice plover
#

So a 14600 would be fine

acoustic palm
#

but cod idk it probably would

frigid stag
#

the k is better but yeah

spice plover
#

Ye

acoustic palm
#

i would still highly recommend building it yourself though

frigid stag
#

cod doesnt care about vram either minimum is like still a 950 or whatever

spice plover
#

Im guessing rocket league doesnt at all

frigid stag
#

yeah rocket league is fine

spice plover
#

So then im chilling

acoustic palm
#

unless you wanna play any other game

spice plover
acoustic palm
#

uhhh

#

with the way games are looking

#

youll have a few years before 8gb becomes more or less unusable for new games

frigid stag
#

they still have new gpus with 8gb its fine

spice plover
#

Oh ok thats fine ill def be upgraded before then

acoustic palm
#

just get a better pc with 16gb now

spice plover
#

Is everything else in that pc fine cause i think im going with that one

acoustic palm
#

gpu is pretty bad, 1tb storage is meh, ssd is meh

frigid stag
#

yeah building one is the way

acoustic palm
#

and its not hard, i have like super shaky hands and dont trust myself but i still did it

spice plover
#

I think i might do that then

#

How much is warranty incase i do mess it up

frigid stag
#

amazon accidental warranty prob

spice plover
#

What parts are most likely to get messed up

#

Cpu, ram and gpu?

lone mango
worn wave
spice plover
#

Alright

pliant berry
#

wait domain names can change in price?

gleaming sedge
#

How good is a AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE for a mini lenovo pc?

velvet summit
#

Which is why if you find a good price, you buy several years in advance

#

My .com has risen in price by quite a bit

#

I'm planning on changing to a .ca or something when it expires in 2028

pliant berry
#

Weird. One of mine hasn’t changed in the past 5 years and only now went up 5usd

elfin mural
#

i think it depends on how lucrative the name is

worn wave
tall pine
#

Game sessions and multiple runs of Pi later, Core 0 at -100 CO running 5.75Ghz is still stable 😁

ashen swan
#

Holy moly

#

Bf6 is so fun

elfin mural
#

i wonder if anyone is interested in 9950X3D2

#

dual v-cache, meaning both ccds are on v-cache

tall pine
elfin mural
#

yep

tall pine
#

I think it'd be a awesome chip for game servers.

dense locust
#

$800?
$850?

elfin mural
#

probably a bajillion dollars

#

lotsa money

#

since it has double the cache

dense locust
#

surely it cant be $1000 right?
RIGHT?

tall pine
#

I heard estimates in the $900 range when first rumors were being spread a year go

#

Bigger question is, since it's dual CCD, I don't see any gamers benefiting from it.

#

Only servers or heavy cache reliant multi-threaded apps.

dense locust
#

i mean you wont have to park cores anymore

tall pine
#

Or even LLMs

dense locust
#

just less of an inconvenience i guess

tall pine
dense locust
#

2x 16 cores with 2 dual ccds

#

$1500

tall pine
dense locust
#

how much cores is zen 6 rumored to have

tall pine
#

Are they actually making a 16c CCD for the Ryzen platform?

dense locust
#

26 apparently

sinful blade
#

This is definitely something I wanna get when I’m rich

elfin mural
#

lmao

#

that's a whole pack

sinful blade
#

That’s probably why it’s $170

#

Seems to be a hell of a package though

amber linden
#

Open box gpu worth to try on newegg ?

elfin mural
#

yes

#

they're essentially new

#

just been opened before

#

and if you have any issues, there's warranty and a return period

amber linden
#

No return or refund

elfin mural
#

huh

#

is this from a third party seller?

#

i'd only trust branded seller or newegg

#

like if it's a gigabyte for example, it must come from gigabyte or newegg only

#

and so on

lone mango
#

I think the other ones I saw on newegg also had no returns

#

computer gamba

marsh lynx
ashen swan
#

Sometimes I forget asrock was part of asus/ made by asus

dense locust
tall pine
#

Aight, I am off for the night folks.

#

Also, @lone mango -100 co still rock solid on core 0, so I think it's safe to move on to the next ones xD

gleaming sedge
craggy shoal
#

@idle nexus Sorry for the ping but I had a quick question. Has your Pihole instance(s) also started to randomly fail? This might be a Docker-specific issue but my logs state that it has ran out of shared memory

I've ended up using a Pihole LXC container as a workaround. I'm currently readding my ad lists and also going to grab the DNS routes I had before just to get everything to work right (idk whether it would be more ideal to just copy and paste the whole etc-pihole directory to wherever it would be on the Proxmox instance)

worn wave
craggy shoal
#

@random osprey @elfin mural @dusk knot

elfin mural
#

ok

#

hold on

dusk knot
#

What the

craggy shoal
#

Sorry I hate to ping multiple mods. I know JP is super reliable but I didn't see him online at the time

royal crow
craggy shoal
#

lol

rancid juniper
#

Needs 1 ryzen 3 x3d to complete

icy ore
#

x3d2

dusk knot
#

Hm

acoustic palm
#

@dusk knot is this real pepehmmm

dusk knot
#

L

#

Ofc it is

acoustic palm
#

He’s gonna give me a free 911 Porsche

royal crow
acoustic palm
#

You want a

#

455.5 Porsche??

royal crow
#

Yeah

lone mango
#

fr

dusk knot
acoustic palm
#

hes also gonna buy me that monitor

weak cedar
opaque sedge
weak cedar
opaque sedge
weak cedar
#

then we will crash after it's sold

mental yoke
lone mango
#

$200 stick drift

#

What a bag fr

ancient swift
#

None of the 3 swapped to hall effect or tmr thumbsticks yet

misty sparrow
#

It’s funny how I kept hearing reports of joycon 2 stick drift after it was such a big problem on the original joycons

#

$90 controllers btw

ancient swift
#

And then Valve and Rog also don't have them either.

Zotac, Lenovo, and MSI for "mainstream" handhelds

8bitdo, gamesir, razer, scuf, and a few others for controllers.

And then all the boutique handhelds from Ayn, GPD, Ayaneo, OneXPlayer, etc.

#

The redeeming quality about Nintendo is the thumbsticks are solderless so you can replace them yourself.

And many of the 3rd party joycons from Nyxi and the like have them.

#

Nintendo has WAY more options than Sony does at least.

tranquil pebble
#

first party ones specifically

lone mango
#

They are bagging 💰

#

There is an open box chroma pearl for 56

dense locust
#

They have no excuse

misty sparrow
#

Yeah I don't think $60-$80 for new controllers from firstparty is justifiable

#

Xbox is probably the worst of the bunch for this

nocturne flicker
#

They've been that price since the 7th Gen of consoles

#

Well I guess they were more like 45-55 then, they've crept up a bit, but it has been jumping up after 6th gen

nocturne flicker
#

Technically Nintendo did it first at $60, iirc the Wii Remote was 40 and the Nunchuck was 20, so for the full set of controllers was $60

#

All for an infrared remote with a motion sensor and a joystick attachment

tranquil pebble
#

Xbox charges like $150 to have a controller that feels better but is unreliable. Its disgusting.

icy ore
#

Microsoft sucks in general man

#

They have the potential to be such a great company because some of their views are good but they ruin it with business practices lol

tranquil pebble
#

Windows 7 was their last good OS

#

Windows 10 maybe... before the co pilot BS

velvet summit
#

discord can't embed ipv6

dusk knot
icy ore
dense locust
chilly hedge
#

yo does any1 know a fix to get extract tool back i had it but its gone now

lone mango
#

fr

dusk knot
remote geode
#

i am 100% sure that this will not cause me problems 100% in the future

remote geode
#

i was so incensed that the windows recovery environment was not usable

#

when i needed to diagnose my pc

#

so frustrating!

slate fractal
#

guys i may have fried my computer, is it bad if the screen started flashing and staticing so i had to restart it when i increased the gpu clock from -2100 up to -1600?

tranquil pebble
#

unless you massively overvolted it, it likely was just an unstable setting

slate fractal
#

okay good it gave me.heart attack when the screen went crazy

#

thanks

tranquil pebble
#

GPU crashes can get weird

slate fractal
#

maybe i should be a little more patient when increasing the clock rate back up

tranquil pebble
#

you don't want to be doing big jumps at a time... start small and check for stability

#

and overclocking absolutely requires patience

remote geode
#

it used to take me hours of tuning when i had my 1060/2060/1070ti GPUs

lone mango
tranquil pebble
# lone mango

One of the Neptunia games used to have a bug on Radeon cards that would cause it to render with inverted colors lol

keen wind
#

Sup

dusk knot
#

gamers

icy ore
#

gaymers

nocturne flicker
#

Daymers

lone mango
#

Blamers

random osprey
#

farmers

unreal trail
#

I got an 8bit do with hall effect for my Switch

dusk knot
#

What about heck no

upper rain
proud jackal
#

who here lives in LA

royal crow
#

used to live around there

lone mango
#

Thankfully I do not live there

dusk knot
#

Florida

icy ore
#

Theo trying to steal our identities to do more entries for his contests he inevitably always wins

dusk knot
#

Lol

#

One of these days, Theo has to hand over a win to one of us

#

(me)

grand wasp
sinful blade
#

Sitting at the emergency vet for the second hour, unsure of my cats condition

proud jackal
#

want to do me a favor?

sinful blade
# dusk knot How serious?

He wasn’t breathing when we got in the room
Got him breathing on the way there
Still haven’t been updated

#

Not sure how I’m gonna pay for the bill
Set up a gofundme for it

icy ore
#

Ah man, I’m super sorry to hear

dusk knot
#

Damn

#

Keep us updated

sinful blade
#

He’s my boi
Name is ombré

dusk knot
#

That must hurt

#

How old is he?

proud jackal
#

hope ombre gets better

sinful blade
#

He’s normally eepy

But yeah, he was meowing like he was in pain on the way there
He’s only 4, but has asthma

proud jackal
#

wheres the gofundme

sinful blade
#

I’ll dm it

icy ore
#

Are they doing emergency surgery or what?

sinful blade
#

Oh wait
I guess we didn’t
Wife set up an account at the vet for it you can call
Or I can give a cashapp/venmo tag for us to pay

sinful blade
icy ore
#

Man

proud jackal
#

whats the venmo

sinful blade
#

Hold

#

She’s in the bathroom so I’m waiting till she’s out to ask

#

Sent

#

@proud jackal is a great dude btw

dusk knot
#

I hope everything turns out ok

sinful blade
#

Same
We think we heard him meowing a bit ago but this is a 24/7 vet

sinful blade
#

@dusk knot @proud jackal @icy ore

Update.
His jaw is dislocated. It’s gonna be several hundred to fix tomorrow morning. Seems like something happened when we were getting Mail and he must’ve hurt himself.

#

He’s going to live, but he’s going to be in a lot of pain until he can get fixed.

#

I’ve gotta syringe feed him food, and basically keep a constant watch on him all night.

dense locust
#

damn

#

wish him the best of luck

grand wasp
sinful blade
#

Guess I don’t need sleep

fair onyx
#

PISS OFFFFF GET COLD ALREADY droid_cry_squish

dense locust
#

these are good temps what do you mean

fair onyx
dense locust
#

I live in the desert too

#

Granted I don’t stand in the sun

fair onyx
#

The start of my job is in the sun for 30 minutes

I'm not gonna die or anything, but it was so nice for that week when it was like 72 and overcast

#

The real issue is that we stand out there in all black for like 30 minutes, get all sweaty, and then come back to chilly ass room and freeze haha

sinful blade
#

Estimated cost according to Google and Reddit is about $1500

#

Up to about $3k

sinful blade
#

The gofundme is in my bio.
If you’d like to donate, please know it’s appreciated.

lethal jasper
#

Is KTC a good monitor brand

#

Specifically this one

sinful blade
lethal jasper
#

This one

sinful blade
#

Can you stretch your budget

#

At all

#

@lethal jasper

lethal jasper
#

But that could work

tranquil pebble
ashen swan
#

MANNNNNN

#

I NEED B770

#

MORE COPIUM

dense locust
#

They should release it and call it the
B690

remote geode
#

I could really use the extra VRAM

#

(I'm on the B580)

ashen swan
#

that has a 330 MSRP

#

that's gonna get sclalped

tranquil pebble
#

imagine if someone somehow managed to infringe on every single Nintendo IP at the same time

ashen swan
#

i mean

#

isn't it alr happening

remote geode
remote geode
tranquil pebble
velvet summit
gleaming sedge
#

Question, how can I use a psu to run dvd drives but not have the psu running a computer just optical drives?

velvet summit
gleaming sedge
#

The green and any black, thank you

craggy shoal
#

Something like that lol

craggy shoal
# velvet summit

"Yeah Bethesda should just keep remastering games" yeah can I get a uhhhhh New Vegas remaster? (Barely can even play it on modern hardware, usually a hit or miss for me plus the graphics are old asf)

sinful blade
#

Heading to the actual vet now

remote geode
#

if anything happens

#

the remaster that they're gonna make is like Starfield

#

it's just asset swaps and the engine is still the same one that reeks of stink from Morrowind

craggy shoal
#

Fr I want a Morrowind remaster

remote geode
#

and it's gonna run WORSE than current Fallout: NV

craggy shoal
#

Honestly, put a pause on TES6. Just remaster everything lol

craggy shoal
remote geode
#

since it's on the same engine, it's gonna be really easy for the mod community to just port the old QoL mods from the old Vegas to the new one

#

and people will complain about the same problems 😂

sinful blade
#

He has gone back to surgery

unreal trail
dusk knot
dusk knot
ashen swan
#

what is the purpose of VRMS

#

just get

#

PCIE gen 5's

#

and

acoustic palm
ashen swan
#

good vrms

#

like yeah

acoustic palm
#

Better VRMS can handle more power without getting above tjmax or just literally exploding

ashen swan
#

idk

acoustic palm
#

@dusk knot 2 days 🤤 2 more days

ashen swan
ashen swan
dusk knot
acoustic palm
#

New monitor

dusk knot
#

OLED?

acoustic palm
#

Do you have dementia

dusk knot
#

I do

acoustic palm
#

Gg

#

The new gigabyte one

dusk knot
#

My boy

acoustic palm
#

4th gen woled 550 (hopefully?)

dusk knot
#

Hopefully

acoustic palm
#

Tbh I’d be willing to pay up to like sub 700 for it

dusk knot
#

Lets see

#

Those damn tarrifs might make it higher

acoustic palm
#

Do you know what TIME it will release?

dusk knot
#

Maybe midnight

acoustic palm
#

Crap

#

Ok

#

Wait

#

Crap

dusk knot
#

Patience

acoustic palm
#

I hate school

dusk knot
#

Same

#

I'm in class rn

#

College

acoustic palm
#

I’m sick rn

icy ore
#

Sick mondays

#

Ew

weak cedar
#

What's app = red flag

#

Also 5 hours pre week isn't full time 😅

#

Message deleted but I haven't brought up if this gives also time and a half and double time for holidays peepoSadSip also that's apparently $50.00 pre hour

rancid juniper
#

site redesigned?

acoustic palm
#

Cat isn’t here to remove anything they want

gleaming sedge
#

Not sketch at all

tall pine
#

@lone mango so far -115 co seems stable on core 0.

#

Passed SuperPi and did a few runs of VT3.

#

Plan to test it for game stability later.

tall pine
sinful blade
#

Ombré is out of surgery
He is okay now

They’re letting us take him home soon, without worrying about the bill yet

acoustic palm
#

i hope he recovers fully

tranquil pebble
#

@random osprey spam ^ (deleted now)

royal crow
#

mods...?

random osprey
#

been asleep since 7pm last night PepeRealizes

gleaming sedge
#

Need some help, I installed a m.2 to sata and I have no video when I take it out I get video back

#

Hoping didn't waste 30 dollars on this adapter