general-chat

[pseudo patrol]

but LG still holding strong

[dusk knot]

16…..not bad

For drawing only that it

[pliant berry]

the kvm in my gigabyte is basically dead

[opaque sedge]

out of context this sentence is crazy

[fair onyx]

My bad, it's 12GB

[pseudo patrol]

yeah ive never used it lol

[dusk knot]

NO!

[opaque sedge]

[dusk knot]

He…that’s fine

[pliant berry]

I've been holding off buying a new monitor for so long cuz the one im looking at rn is 1900usd and I want to get a proper kvm switch

[dusk knot]

Wh

What are you looking for at?

Some color calibrated monitor?

[pliant berry]

something like the asus proart pa32ucdm

[fair onyx]

My monitor has a KVM switch built inside :3

[dusk knot]

Oh ok

[ashen swan]

What does free sync and G syn cdo

[dusk knot]

Proarts are nice

[pliant berry]

though im not crazy about 4k at 32"

[dusk knot]

Maybe one day when my graphic design business files off

[fair onyx]

Makes it a hell of a lot smoother on games, basically

[pliant berry]

mine too but unfortunately that is why I want a dedicated one. the built in one on mine sucks

[dusk knot]

What else is there? Nothing really

[pliant berry]

I would prefer 6k at 32" or 4k at 27" as a minimum but oh well

[fair onyx]

Ah I see

[ashen swan]

do you need the specific GPU to use it

[dusk knot]

But $$$$$

[pliant berry]

yeah that's the problem. what I want is either ludicrously expensive or doesn't exist yet

[fair onyx]

Nope

Or well... Does g sync only work on Nvidia? I don't actually know

G sync and free sync are damn near the same now though

[median kelp]

Yes but almost all g sync displays have and freesync

Gsync costs money to apply for, freesync is free

So if they go for gsync and meet those requirements, they meet freesync requirements and usually make it both

[fair onyx]

I've had a free sync and a g sync monitor, and they worked exactly the same

[median kelp]

Unless they're sponsored by Nvidia like those TVs that they launched with LG

[dusk knot]

Storage?

[fair onyx]

I don't remember. Let me check

I think it's 256GB

But it has an SD card slot

[dusk knot]

Hmmm….decent

Oh great

[ashen swan]

damn

i kinda want free sync

cause i'm using 7900GRE

prob

[fair onyx]

Free sync premium is just as good as g sync

[pliant berry]

g sync is only nvidia but since the release of g sync compatible monitors many work with both g sync and freesync

[worn night]

a bit overpriced when you can get a 260hz for like 200

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/B2sUrakqWt0?si=BYNTgh8rVZkTLBXR

[fair onyx]

I really wanna treat myself to something nice with my first paycheck... And I am not sure what to get

[dusk knot]

Hmm

That new tablet ofc

https://youtu.be/oY7h6Z95syA?si=0o0hpDCzuYr0Y9cD

Yuck

🤮

[fair onyx]

I have no real need for it to be honest

I was thinking another Samsung display. Or maybe a new phone

Or an upgrade for my PC, but idk what I could get

My check is $620, so, hmmm....

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

New…..

Phone

[worn night]

guys i noticed theres no official

gunnir discord server

[worn night]

do u wanna be a mod in it

[fair onyx]

I'm just not sure if that's a great idea or not. I do want a new phone. But I feel like I should wait for the S26 to come out so the price on the S24 ultra goes down

[worn night]

no need to be active just want someone i can trust in it

[dusk knot]

Makes sense

[dusk knot]

Thanks for asking, but I would like to moderate this server only

[worn night]

but u dont even have to moderate it

😔

im not allowed to advertise it here right

[fair onyx]

I could get a new motherboard... Hmmmmm

[dusk knot]

I mean

[icy ore]

🚫

[dusk knot]

Yeah no

[worn night]

mods be thinking theyre gonna lose daily members

[fair onyx]

But if I get a new motherboard, then I will be pouring more money into a platform I don't wanna stay on

Uhgggg, it's so hard to upgrade something

[dusk knot]

What do you have now?

[icy ore]

not thinking they’re going to lose members, we’ve just got like 30k people in here and if everyone was spamming server invites 24/7 it’d be a disgusting mess

[fair onyx]

12600k. But I don't wanna stay on it

[icy ore]

9800x3d time

[fair onyx]

I wanna get a new motherboard with better PCIe, but that's kinda a waste

[fair onyx]

Ehhhh, not a very good option for me TBH

[dusk knot]

Figured

[fair onyx]

Overpriced for what it is, IMO

[dusk knot]

He does more than gaming to

[icy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/george-michael-sad-walk-walk-of-shame-gif-14543703

[fair onyx]

I want a new motherboard that can support both my GPU's better, and also support more RAM at higher speeds. But in order for me to do that, I'd likely need to upgrade my CPU as well, but I can't afford/justify that

[icy ore]

Well intel ultra series is kinda dookie ass from what I hear

[fair onyx]

It's "fine", but I don't wanna get that

I wish next gen Intel/AMD would hurry up

But then that's gonna be absurdly expensive, so IDK

[icy ore]

Hmm I feel like ultra hasn’t been out long but I guess it has been a while

What’s next gen? Nova?

can’t keep up anymore

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/subway-subway-sandwich-jump-scare-security-breach-fnaf-gif-24206136

[fair onyx]

I wish I could get another 3090

But if I do, I can't put it in my PC, so that's no good

[opaque sedge]

Guys

Is there any game out there

That will make fill this hole elden ring left mah heart

[icy ore]

Yes NG+

[fair onyx]

I really want 256GB RAM, and 2 3090's. That would be great for a lot of stuff

Unfortunately 128GB wasn't that useful

[icy ore]

You could try seamless coop on Elden ring if you have a buddy to play with, it’s super fun

Black myth

[fair onyx]

Going from 64GB to 128GB doesn't increase usefulness much. But 256GB would let me do a lot more stuff

[worn night]

what about

asking if anyone has spare time to set up an automod

or bots

[royal crow]

i'll moderate it lol

[fair onyx]

Man, my phone/YouTube is pissing me the hell off

I keep having YouTube videos constantly buffer on data and wifi. My data is 195/47 right now, and my wifi is 390/280... Yet the video I was watching at 1080p has buffered 4 times

[honest birch]

1st world problem

youll live

[fair onyx]

I don't understand what's happening. I can see that I have a huge buffer bar, but then it just disappears and starts buffering

[fair onyx]

Thanks for stating the obvious. I suggest adding something to the conversation next time 😉

Curious if anybody else has experienced this. I'm not sure what aspect of everything is causing this issue

[honest birch]

ok

[fair onyx]

Oh, weird. I just checked my data and now it's only 19/31

But that should still be plenty for a 1080p video... So strange

[worn night]

lol

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-daredevil-dog-haron-how-he-felt-saying-that-how-he-felt-after-saying-that-gif-25714915

[honest birch]

at least someone knew it was a joke and found it funny.

[honest birch]

cdn routing issue, your isp/data provider may be routing you to a bad or overloaded youtube cdn server OR because of youtubes adaptive quality switching, if you have a latency spike, dropped packets, essentially any inconsistency, it may dump the existing buffer and restart.

happy?

[royal crow]

whats weird is you cant select it its so small

[worn night]

thats what sh-

https://i.redd.it/s69h86hcszsf1.gif

[royal crow]

LOL

[dense locust]

there's ai ads?

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[misty sparrow]

have you not seen that gemini ad where a couple gets a house for the first time and take pictures of their plumbing so that the AI can give an answer on what to do

[dense locust]

on what?

[misty sparrow]

TV

and youtube i think

[dense locust]

oh i have premium

prob why

[royal crow]

Mfw i accidentally call my mom at this hour(thank the lord it's on silent

[sinful blade]

My pcie x16 slot clip broke off while I was taking my gpu out

So now I have a broken piece

Oh wait

It comes out

What kind of trickery

It’s not broken

@bungie what the hell bungie

[rough zinc]

Twas chill being here, I go bye bye

[elfin mural]

we lost another legend

[dense locust]

[sinful blade]

NOOOOO

[lone mango]

He wanted to leave for a while

I guess he wasnt digging it anymore

[elfin mural]

fair enough

life goes on

[lone mango]

The angry trade worker that takes it out on the family

[lone mango]

https://nztcdn.com/files/6daf5d6f-0fce-44da-8153-cc1ea535ccd1.webp

[elfin mural]

cat

[slate fractal]

im making a usb backup of a laptop so i can factory reset it and im so mad rn. it took all night and its still at 70% because it paused to ask me for something

[elfin mural]

what a time for me to check this server

[tranquil pebble]

Crispy critters

[potent dune]

my pc keeps going into blue-screen when I start it, 'page fault in nonpaed area (0x50)' how do I fix it??

[velvet summit]

Try disabling xmp

[tranquil pebble]

sometimes it feels like Xtreme Meme Profile

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwZx9RIl13Y

intel's still making gpus

[tranquil pebble]

Doomposters infuriated

Linux

[remote geode]

excited!

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-stfu-shut-your-mouth-slap-slapping-gif-8050553153066707611

[ashen swan]

ayyayayayyayayyayay

helll eyahh babyyyyyyyyyyy

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/Eu5mYMavctM?si=gvSWKiYxC2Sh_C4o

Now…that’s a robot

We’re almost in the future, guys

[royal crow]

Definitely doesn't sound like the start of every robot uprising movie ever

[worn night]

I gotta start building robots to counter the robots

And mech suit

[royal crow]

Hell yea

Gundam irl fr yall

[dusk knot]

We’ll be fine. AI may appear intelligent, but there’s no one in there

[royal crow]

ik

[dusk knot]

But that’s one well made robot

[elfin mural]

ah, new arc is named celestial

arc C

waiting to see that 770 tier intel arc again

if there's no B770, intel needs a C770

[royal crow]

I'd honestly get it if its good enogh

@worn night u needa get the C580

[worn night]

oooh

[worn night]

we'll see

[rancid juniper]

final sys requirements

its actually not bad!

[ashen swan]

what's your favorite gpu of all time

[dusk knot]

What is this

[rancid juniper]

battlefield 6

[rancid juniper]

I think its the 6700xt, i may have a 7800xt now but that GPU was just amazing for what it can do

[proud jackal]

I won't be able to play BF6 tomorrow till after work

😭

[nocturne flicker]

GT730 2gb DDR3 >

The most gpu of all time

[lone mango]

of course

they are not going anywhere

[elfin mural]

ye

[lone mango]

They are even working on druid

[elfin mural]

i was just worried with the nvidia buyout of their 5%

[elfin mural]

that's great

arc D series

[lone mango]

arc deez

[elfin mural]

lmao

arc is progressively better and better

they better keep it up

the more it gains trust, the better the market is

[lone mango]

That is why intel is onto board partners about customer service

They want people to stick aroundd

[acoustic palm]

C15, the plane

[lone mango]

Do yall think npu is a waste of die space

[elfin mural]

it's bearing fruit in the way that

the arc B60 is selling rather well

[elfin mural]

i think so

[lone mango]

Yeah I forgot who it was but a board partner is selling a server with many of them

[elfin mural]

most ai stuff literally runs on datacenters

there are only niche cases where someone will need an npu

those ppl already run 5090s and better lol

it's just marketing slop

consumer ai tech is not local

[lone mango]

https://videocardz.com/newz/sparkle-unveils-arc-pro-b60-dual-server-with-16-gpus-and-up-to-768-gb-of-vram-comes-with-10800w-psu

[pliant berry]

I think they were really designed with os level ai features in mind

[elfin mural]

holy

16 B60s

[elfin mural]

too bad no one implemented it correctly

[pliant berry]

Which is not terribly popular for desktops at least

[elfin mural]

windows copilot is entirely online

there's no need for an npu

but ai on phones have always existed yeah

in the image processing

[pliant berry]

To some capacity ye

[nocturne flicker]

You mean the C17?

[acoustic palm]

Oh

Yeah

[lone mango]

They will never recover
https://videocardz.com/newz/synology-restores-third-party-hdd-support-for-2025-nas-systems-after-backlash

[primal kettle]

That's why I said "what"

[opaque sedge]

I can smell it yall

More unoptimized games

[lone mango]

I find it annoying when amd does this
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-launches-radeon-rx-7700-with-2560-cores-and-16gb-memory

I know it came out already but seeing it again

like why

They should have done it a year ago

This is like 15% slower than a 9060 xt

[nocturne flicker]

9 years of 7000 series

Gonna be 2035 and they'll release the 7795XT

Need to squeeze the bottom of the bottom of the silicon barrel

[lone mango]

fr

[rancid juniper]

its sooooooooooo smooth

and abnormally responsive WHAT

1440p FSR 4 balanced with RT at ultra + XeSS framegen

using all technologies

lmfao

[dense locust]

Sales must’ve TANKED if they are reversing the decision

I doubt it will ever go back up to how they had it before

I love to see this

[opaque sedge]

Turn up that crowd control setting

https://tenor.com/view/excited-fuego-gif-26833875

[rancid juniper]

lmfao

its already maxed out

13600k go brrrrrrrrrrrr

[lone mango]

Yeah I think it will stay that way

[opaque sedge]

Oh right forgot framegen works pretty well when the gpu isn’t maxed out

[rancid juniper]

XeFG is amazing!!!

[lone mango]

Brutal 50 fps

[rancid juniper]

it actually doesn't feel like 50fps

[opaque sedge]

My 7800x3d somehow bottlenecks my 4070super on below 1080p internal with max crowd control at crowded areas in cyberpunk

[dusk knot]

Hhhhmmm,

[rancid juniper]

need more cores

[dense locust]

i think cyberpunk is just cpu intensive

happens not every game is the same

[dusk knot]

PT time

[opaque sedge]

The crowds are def unoptimized

[rancid juniper]

no bro

RT is fine

[dense locust]

hey its wilds better than launch

[rancid juniper]

if i go PT i gotta set it to ultra performance

[dusk knot]

PT. TiME.

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[dense locust]

unlikes monster hunter wilds which is exactly the same as when it launched

sad i own that game

even if i got it for free

[opaque sedge]

Seems like they focused on gpu specific optimizations more

[opaque sedge]

I own it too

[dusk knot]

Since you’re already getting great performance

[rancid juniper]

there is little to no ghosting when using XeFG (using DLSS FG as input), this is nuts

[opaque sedge]

The monster hunter fandom loves sucking crapcom’s balls

[rancid juniper]

this is not an RTX card lol

[dusk knot]

For science

We will log this

For future reference

[opaque sedge]

Now go to dogtown and fight barghest

Do it compooper

[dusk knot]

Do it

[rancid juniper]

bruh two requests...

[opaque sedge]

(Dogtown still has hitches btw)

[rancid juniper]

fine i guess ill do both

[opaque sedge]

Dogtown first

[opaque sedge]

Have u beaten cyberpunk yet jp?

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/brunhild-anime-shuumatsu-evil-smile-shuumatsu-no-valkyrie-gif-22021821

[rancid juniper]

where in dogtown?

[opaque sedge]

JP remember the tropical storm mameng

[dusk knot]

Never happened

[opaque sedge]

Doesnt matter most of it is pretty demanding cept the high rise areas

[rancid juniper]

ok

[opaque sedge]

Bonus points if u fight maxtac too

[rancid juniper]

😂

[nocturne flicker]

Have you played anything other than Cyberpunk yet

[rancid juniper]

and the game crashed

gpu doesn't like PT

XD

[opaque sedge]

Yup

Mhwilds

Black myth wukong (peak game btw)

[dusk knot]

No.im taking my sweet time

[opaque sedge]

Elden ring

God of war reboots

Ff7 remakes… (they suck ass btw)

[rancid juniper]

if only denuvo didn't exist for that game...

[opaque sedge]

Sekiro

[nocturne flicker]

I don't have anything to talk about because I either haven't played those or don't like those type of games

[opaque sedge]

Cpu usage was pretty light for me even with upscaling but then again i have a 7800x3d…

[nocturne flicker]

I've only been playing LotRO recently

[opaque sedge]

Effing beautiful game

[rancid juniper]

monk

[opaque sedge]

Level design doesn’t hold a candle to fromsoft games imo but man the game is pure passion and ambition

Architecture and models of statues

They carefully studied all of those

And extremely polished combat

Ranks very close to sekiro for me

Other games i’ve played metaphor and persona 5 (haven’t done royal content yet dont spoil me pls) and expedition 33

I think i’m gonna play kingdom come deliverance next and then the sequel

[nocturne flicker]

I've just been running around on horseback killing orcs in Rohan for the past two weeks

One day warsteeds will not be garbage surely

[opaque sedge]

Does that mmo need a subscription too?

[nocturne flicker]

Though I did spend the last two nights running around doing exploration deeds

[nocturne flicker]

It is free to play with an optional VIP subscription service

[opaque sedge]

Oh is the free content good?

[nocturne flicker]

If you like WoW like gameplay

WoW classic

[opaque sedge]

Btw guys dont buy wilds rn wait for a heavy discount and the expansion (if crapcom doesn’t ditch the game like dd2) or optimization patches, or imo dont get the game at all

[nocturne flicker]

Everything up to Helm's Deep is free except for some new content released for early levels except SSG is currently doing a coupon for everything up to like level 140 for free

[opaque sedge]

I- never played wow

I didn’t grow up playing games weary

It hasn’t even been a whole year since i started playing games

[nocturne flicker]

Okay, so basically you run around, find a quest giver in a particular area, it pops up with a text box with details about why they are sending you off to do what they want you to do and then you got and do it. Either kill certain mobs, gather certain items, interact with certain things, get to a specific place, that sorta stuff. Depending on your class you have different abilities and ways of doing damage with different advantages or disadvantages

[unreal trail]

[opaque sedge]

That sounds

Pretty darn awesome ngl

Been wanting to play smth like that

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/4ZP943-gARQ?si=ayV35NDFb85u2HyT

i hope so one day...

[nocturne flicker]

https://youtu.be/eCENo1NWnIc

That gives a general overview of a lot of stuff. It doesn't really explain the microtransaction system though

Also some of it is outdated because the guy just reuses the same info despite changes being made in game

Also the game does have some lag issues due to age

And a fair amount of old and abandoned game mechanics and systems

[dusk knot]

huh

never knew such a game existed

[nocturne flicker]

It is 18 years old

[worn night]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eftgfXFWojo

[opaque sedge]

https://youtu.be/ABdiUclJ5eA?si=a-60Sk0z33nAoqu0 huh i’m even more impressed now after just seeing this with the 9060xt especially when u can easily make a build with it under 10 US hundies

[opaque sedge]

I hope the heck not bro, if robotics advance to that level no doubt working class jobs will be wiped out and regular folks aint gonna be reaping the benefits

[dense locust]

this just shows what a bad value console price increases is

[opaque sedge]

Even more given the fact a 70class card is usually 200 more than the 9060xt which is significantly more performance

[nocturne flicker]

Silicon Valley in the 1990s: Technology will make your life better 😊

Silicon Valley now: We will track every action you take and make it so you have no jobs and no money 😐

[opaque sedge]

Exactly i dont get why people are hyped abt potential automation when it comes to aspects of their life, like robots who do chores, drive for u and shit, that is not good in the least bit, first of all thats taking away the fundamental part of living a life and second of all only hyper rich people will be able to reap the benefits of having those for dailylife and for profits in their businesses

[leaden pewter]

fellas, i made a goof while using blender compositing

[lone mango]

No because it is never enough for them

They want to do everything for us

And when you clean your house, you can do it how you want to

[nocturne flicker]

Robots who drive for you (after we get hundreds of test drivers killed and or injured trying to make it moderately safe in very specific conditions)

[lone mango]

Just have everyone be a bunch of lazy ubi consoomers while automated machines do everything

Bunch of dead meat slobs

This is the western future

With the move to cbdc this reality comes sooner

[nocturne flicker]

The Western future is that we won't have robots, just a select few will while we live in total poverty begging for scraps

[lone mango]

I forgot the term i saw online

Neo technofeudalism or something

Something technofeudalist

[nocturne flicker]

It would just be technofeudalism. Applying neo would mean it would be a newer form of something that already existed. Neofeudalism would be if there was a modernized feudalism for example

[lone mango]

There was another word in front of it that I completely forgot

[tranquil pebble]

the real life cyberpunk is gonna be very boring

[misty sparrow]

There's gonna be people who are gonna try to pursue romantic relationships with them

[lone mango]

That was actually one of the first things

[nocturne flicker]

Already there brotha

[lone mango]

Wow what a waste of die space

That T shape above it is the e core cache with the 4 cores around it

Those small 4 pink spots are the 4 cores

Imagine if they replaced that useless npu by doubling the e core count or adding two p cores

Either change would still have a smaller overall die

Slightly smaller

[velvet summit]

Negative damn

[tranquil pebble]

or even just putting cache there lol

[dusk knot]

i see

[lone mango]

https://youtu.be/-0UrxVnRxLo

[craggy shoal]

I still have an original PS5 lol

[lone mango]

"The games industry is begging to crash. Pay more for less quality, rinse and repeat until you get every dollar out of the customer. It’s not sustainable"

sotru....

But that is the consumer era

[lone mango]

I have the older slim

Fellas if you want a ps5

get the older slim

[dusk knot]

Torn ares reviews not looking good

😭

[opaque sedge]

The madlads have managed to jailbreak ps5s with older firmware btw

[craggy shoal]

I'm about to put Linux on my PS4

[opaque sedge]

Desktop steam deck

[misty sparrow]

Okay so aside from them downgrading the SSD back to 825GB did they do anything else

cant watch vid rn

[craggy shoal]

Yeah and it's gonna run like ass 💀

[lone mango]

They changed the heatsink again and swapped the steel around the board to be a thinner one

The console runs marginally hotter but nothing crazy at all

Basically trying to remove what they can without making anything worse

besides the ssd

[misty sparrow]

that doesn't seem that bad aside from ssd downgrade

is it noisy at all or?

[lone mango]

The fan is lighter, and lighter materials

He says it sounds a little better

But I never had a problem with the fan anyway

[craggy shoal]

I'm actually okay with the size of the SSD as long as they let you upgrade it

[lone mango]

The upgrade slot is still there but the base storage being 27% slower while also having a less dense heatsink for the same price is not that good

[misty sparrow]

i mean, there's an expansion port in the PS5 for the old models so i'd imagine they would keep it

[lone mango]

Again the performance is the same but its cost cutting after they already raised the prices

So they raised the price and shrinkflated it too

I love their thumbnails so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP0rfOP5iAk

https://youtu.be/B8EuSu_n9b4

[nocturne flicker]

You forget, the PS5 uses like 150gb out of the box

[worn night]

oh yeah? have you ever seen cpu usage go to 103%

[nocturne flicker]

So an 825gb drive is actually a 675gb drive because the PS5 OS and sys files are so bloated

[craggy shoal]

Hence why I mentioned it should be upgradable

[lone mango]

I thought it was overprovisioning and not bloat

Brutal

[craggy shoal]

I actually haven't hit full storage yet and I have like four games installed (but that's also me as a PC owner)

[nocturne flicker]

The website for the PS5 has a warning on the 825gb stat.

A portion of the SSD is reserved for system software and other functions so the available SSD capacity may vary.

[lone mango]

[nocturne flicker]

Maybe some of it is over provisioned, but most of that is going to be the OS and system files

[sinful blade]

@worn night are you ready to buy a c580

[worn night]

uh

[craggy shoal]

uh

[worn night]

if someone gave me money sure

my bday is in fact in 7 days

[worn night]

aint even got an a580

[sinful blade]

L

How can you call yourself the ambassador

[sinful blade]

Mines in 8

[worn night]

happy early bday

[misty sparrow]

i already got a birthday gift for you in mind roomba

[marsh lynx]

my pc is a legit 12k a I still have no windows key

[tranquil pebble]

Threadripper?

because otherwise...

[spare elk]

Identity theft is not a joke ghosty 😛

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/polvoron-gato-war-flashbacks-recuerdos-de-guerra-traumatizado-gif-17714149605432288357

[pliant berry]

Lmao how you quote a message from over a year ago

Been a while since Ive seen you here

[spare elk]

Oh I wanted to stop in and say hi, and thouoght it would be funny to reply to something from a long time back

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

Yeah i dont have a windows key either i totally dont

[spare elk]

Yeah, writing a dissertation is a pain in the commercially sanctioned body part 😭

[marsh lynx]

😭

[pliant berry]

Oh my

Well it is nice to see you again

[marsh lynx]

All peak components breh

[spare elk]

yee

[worn night]

whats your specs

[spare elk]

It's fun just quickly scrolling through the shenanigans that have happened in the time I've been gone. It's nice to see a lot of the old folks still around

[pliant berry]

Ye still a few of us here, its been a bit quieter lately

[sinful blade]

What is the gift

[pliant berry]

Then again im not the most active person, been busy taking photos

[spare elk]

oooh fun

[sinful blade]

Who in the overspend

[worn night]

ah thats why

the ultimate overspend

[marsh lynx]

• 5090 astral

[spare elk]

I'm glad to see builds like this also haven't changed lmao

[worn night]

was it worth it

[sinful blade]

I can promise you

You don’t need any of that

Literally any of it

If you’re gaming

[marsh lynx]

Idk yet it’s not put together I have to build it

[worn night]

you couldve built two 5090 9950x3d builds with that budget

[pliant berry]

No gaming chair though

Missed opportunity

[nocturne flicker]

What in the ai generated list is this

[sinful blade]

Extra 4k for wooden desk
Plus the desk another 6k for plywood

[marsh lynx]

That’s my cheapest thing fr 😭

[pliant berry]

Custom desk OSS nice

[worn night]

people who dont know what use money wisely means, as far as that even goes when getting highest end

[pliant berry]

The hell is oss

[marsh lynx]

bro mad at me for what 😭

[worn night]

operating system system

[worn night]

you spent your money unwisely

[nocturne flicker]

Looks like ai slop to me

[pliant berry]

System system

[worn night]

like saying atm machine

[marsh lynx]

How, because I didn’t get a 580?

[worn night]

not even close

[worn night]

^

and then sold the second one for more than you spent

[nocturne flicker]

You just typed in what is the most expensive parts for a pc into an AI and used the results didn't you

[marsh lynx]

Yeah if you want non peak parts

But all of my components are too peak

[worn night]

nah, 6000 dollars gets all the peakest parts

[marsh lynx]

What ram

[worn night]

if you needed to climb to mount everest's peak, you went to the moon and back bro

[worn night]

the same

observe

[marsh lynx]

False

[worn night]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RZqbb2

this one i made as a joke with all msi

[pliant berry]

Are we just trying to see who’s system is more expensive

[worn night]

if you got better stuff thats not msi youd save even more money

[marsh lynx]

I’m not clicking that virus

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-laughing-smile-look-at-this-gif-15049124

[random osprey]

no msi cpu or msi ram 😔

no msi thermal paste either

[worn night]

if only man

[random osprey]

f tier list

[worn night]

Bro has never seen pcpartpicker no wonder

become laughing stock of newegg server speedrun

[nocturne flicker]

He just asked for results from ChatGPT man, don't bother

[marsh lynx]

yes because I need 11 grams of thermal paste yes thank you

[worn night]

you dont hence why i said get even better parts for less money and save more money

[worn night]

maybe we can still save you, have you bought everything already?

[marsh lynx]

what’s your specs bud

[nocturne flicker]

Defensive and trying to start a measuring contest I see

[royal crow]

I'll start....

[marsh lynx]

he asked for my specs first and I showed in seconds…

[worn night]

have you bought it all

[marsh lynx]

Why is taking him so long

[royal crow]

I got ts on lock

[nocturne flicker]

He asked if you bought it all

[marsh lynx]

Because the number I’m seeing as your names can’t be real

[nocturne flicker]

...Okay?

[worn night]

have you bought it all

[marsh lynx]

like I didn’t know numbers went that low 😭

[worn night]

this dudes 12 bro

act like your brains developed

[craggy shoal]

lmao what

[marsh lynx]

67

[worn night]

did you buy all those parts already

[spare elk]

I'm actually not working with anything that crazy right now. Let me grab some specs real quick

[nocturne flicker]

What is that name. I love it

[craggy shoal]

braindead

[worn night]

i'm more interested in the bio

[nocturne flicker]

Base64

[marsh lynx]

chat what is a gtx rx arc b 580?

[worn night]

man we would love to help you not waste six thousand dollars on rubbish but if you're gonna be immature then you're a lost cause lol

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

[marsh lynx]

answer the question bud

[worn night]

it stands for gtx 580, rx 580, and arc b580

[spare elk]

@marsh lynx 20x 7713, 5.12 TB ram, 20x A100, 100 Gb InfiniBand, 175 TB NFS

[worn night]

bc i like those three cards

[spare elk]

Do I win a prize?

[worn night]

the prize for running nasa's computers lol

[spare elk]

You should definitely decode it

[spare elk]

Nah, that's tiny lol

[marsh lynx]

Yeah and I’m running a Dyson sphere out of my garage

[nocturne flicker]

I can't copy and paste on mobile, sorry

[worn night]

its a rick roll

[sinful blade]

Only one? Amateur

I have 3 running in my bathroom

[marsh lynx]

marioblud67

[worn night]

i think hes trying to communicate

not sure what tho

[marsh lynx]

still trying to figure out what a 580 is

[worn night]

i told you, its a graphics card

[sinful blade]

Imma be honest, idk what this is

[worn night]

the nvidia gtx 580, the amd rx 580, and the intel arc b580

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/joel-haver-playing-an-rpg-for-the-second-time-playing-an-rpg-no-you-are-lying-joel-haver-lying-gif-23134251

[spare elk]

It could also be an SSD though, y'all remember when the sn580 was king?

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-you-know-it-i-know-it-everybody-knows-it-its-true-gif-24093466

[worn night]

just need that and an 850w psu then we're good to go

[spare elk]

I mean we could also build you a custom 580w PSU

[marsh lynx]

Bros gpu still loads YouTube in 480 😭💔

[spare elk]

With 58.0% efficiency

[worn night]

no actually i can stream 4k easily

[nocturne flicker]

An RM850

[worn night]

i can see the subject is attempting to clown on me

[marsh lynx]

my psu not available in the us

[worn night]

"An" was correct

hah

[nocturne flicker]

Yeah I redid it again

I said it out loud after I changed it and realized

English annoying

[marsh lynx]

imagine bros gpu trying to render 8k 💀

[worn night]

i ask for the sixty seventh time, have you purchased your list of overpriced parts yet or not

imagine this guy not acting like a clown infront of the whole server

cause we have to

[spare elk]

How can we get the 580 with ram?

[worn night]

5800mts?

[sinful blade]

Tuned ddr1

[marsh lynx]

You have to travel to a land before time brother

[spare elk]

i5-580M is ddr3 🙁

[worn night]

i do not follow

have you bought your parts yet

[spare elk]

I guess you could try running it at 1160 MT/s, which would be 580MHz

Dunno how flexible the 580M was though

[worn night]

Oooh

[nocturne flicker]

Shove an 850 evo in there

[marsh lynx]

the word buy is relative brother

[worn night]

its really not

[nocturne flicker]

I liked the 850 EVO. Still going strong, the SATA SSD that could

[worn night]

is purchased better?

[nocturne flicker]

And was rather expensive

[worn night]

acquired?

shipped to your house???

[nocturne flicker]

Fell off the back of a truck

[spare elk]

"bought with daddy's money"

[worn night]

Fr

[marsh lynx]

at the end of the day, it’s not about having the best pc parts, it’s about the friends you make along the way

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[spare elk]

welp

[worn night]

great now have you bought that part list yet

im not done helping you make better choices in life

[nocturne flicker]

Also could we not with the random AI images?

[craggy shoal]

where

[marsh lynx]

bro mad his phone can’t create emojis 💔🫩

[craggy shoal]

it's irony lol

[nocturne flicker]

Why would I want my phone to make unrelated slop?

[spare elk]

see I have a PC I'm typing on

[marsh lynx]

bro thinks he can challenge or fight ai 💔

[nocturne flicker]

Are you AI?

[marsh lynx]

We are all AI

[nocturne flicker]

🤨

[spare elk]

I mean my dissertation is literally to challange the current AI accelerators for mobile devices sooooo

Yes, I do think I can beat your phone's AI chip

[marsh lynx]

Bad faith argument

[nocturne flicker]

Every accusation is a confession

[spare elk]

Nah, I'm just 4-6 orders of magnitude more efficient than whatever hardware you ran that on

[marsh lynx]

Right now challenge gpt-5

[worn night]

can you

[spare elk]

Easily, that runs on GPUs which are some of the least efficient options

[marsh lynx]

incoming lie

[spare elk]

And requires a data connection to centralized compute servers, so if you drop connection bye bye AI

[marsh lynx]

I am gpt-5 buddy

[worn night]

this guys just one of those unfortunate souls who cant take advice and will find things out the hard way

[craggy shoal]

"buddy" 💀

[worn night]

i giveup

[craggy shoal]

what am I even reading

[worn night]

how old are you bro

[nocturne flicker]

I think that is not allowed for bot behavior

[marsh lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-ragebait-rage-bait-jarvis-clip-that-jarvis-meme-gif-11046632004782930587

[spare elk]

He sounds kinda like my Freshman students, so probably late teens

[worn night]

good thing no ones raging

[nocturne flicker]

I didn't sound like that in my late teens

Surely

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-gif-4679601

[craggy shoal]

Guys he's just being ironic lol it's not that big

[spare elk]

Yeah, most kids aren't quite as bad. It's only a few like this

[worn night]

Unfortuante

[craggy shoal]

Unfortuante

[marsh lynx]

amd gpus in the big 2026 💔🫩

[craggy shoal]

0/10 rage bait

[remote geode]

I'm just surprised that my B580 can run deepseek r1

[worn night]

yeah

[remote geode]

pretty good

[spare elk]

Tell it to El Capitan

[worn night]

mine i can oc to 3.5 ghz

[remote geode]

huh

[spare elk]

The two most powerful computers in the world run on AMD

[remote geode]

I'm not sure if the Intel B580 can go up that high

[worn night]

Mine does

[marsh lynx]

Say it with me amd cpu

[spare elk]

AMD CPU, AMD GPU

You get some rally nice custom high speed interconnects

[worn night]

Amd cpus goated

[spare elk]

Just like you used to get with Nvidia GPUs and IBM CPUs

[craggy shoal]

he's rage baiting all of you

[marsh lynx]

I’ll let yall know if it can fully saturate my dual 4k 240

[spare elk]

And now Nvidia GPUs and Nvidia CPUs

[nocturne flicker]

Make it stop

[worn night]

We not raging phew

[craggy shoal]

huh

[spare elk]

-# oh I know, he's also adorable though so it's fun to see what he'll say next

[worn night]

-# fr tho

[marsh lynx]

this my first build wish me luck chat

[nocturne flicker]

-# I want to talk like this too

[marsh lynx]

🫡

[craggy shoal]

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WHISPER

[worn night]

we tried 😂 you aint got any

[spare elk]

But no seriously, Nvidia no longer working with IBM to get nvlink on their CPUs was a sad day 🙁

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-snapped-sad-gif-22165289

[worn night]

-# my bad gang

[marsh lynx]

Still debating on buying ifixit toolkit or using the screwdriver I already have

[craggy shoal]

https://tenor.com/b12YU.gif

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/i-wanna-take-a-pig-angry-birds-meme-meme-gif-14812769550007415262

[spare elk]

I mean ifixit kits are nice, they're just a little pricey for what you get

If you already have a decent set of magnetized screwdrivers I'd just use those

[worn night]

ltt screwdriver all the way

[marsh lynx]

Yeah it’s like 80 bucks

I don’t feel like spending that after 10k+

[spare elk]

You know what, totally fair

[dusk knot]

Ha!

[craggy shoal]

huh

I was even pinged for that wtf

[royal crow]

Hehe

It's my new trick

[craggy shoal]

not even a copy text option tf

[dense locust]

[craggy shoal]

huh

[royal crow]

Huh

[dense locust]

lol I can save it as an image

[royal crow]

It's an invisible image

[craggy shoal]

is it a .webp file?

[royal crow]

1/2 a pixel

[royal crow]

No

Png

[craggy shoal]

bruh

[dense locust]

You can ping with an image?

[dense locust]

oh you ping with the reply

[royal crow]

Ye

[nocturne flicker]

@royal crow

[dense locust]

whats difficult about doing _ _

[nocturne flicker]

Ping with image

[royal crow]

Huh

[nocturne flicker]

Don't 💀 my cheesecake

[dense locust]

try it post "_ _"

[nocturne flicker]

I made that

It was good

[dense locust]

I thought it was flan

[nocturne flicker]

No

It was Basque style cheese cake

[dense locust]

I think you need to cook at a lower temperature for long periods of time to get that store bought kind

[nocturne flicker]

This is not supposed to be like a NY style cheese cake

No graham cracker crust, just the cheese layer, browned top and botton

[dense locust]

Flan type cheesecake

[nocturne flicker]

Some people really overdo the browning and make a burnt cheesecake

I would do it a little less next time, it was a little too dark for my taste

But it is a better cheesecake than NY style. I can't stand a graham cracker crust on a cheese cake.

[worn night]

BRO SKIP TO 3:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACvauDjcmX8

Im done bro

Im just done

Unsubbing

unfollowing

[nocturne flicker]

Chicago style is a bit better with a crust because it is less dense

[worn night]

never was gonna win anyway

[craggy shoal]

it's not that deep lol

[worn night]

no lol look at it

Im literally known now

[nocturne flicker]

I don't know you

[craggy shoal]

yeah idk who you are

[nocturne flicker]

Who are you

[craggy shoal]

green role energy fr

[nocturne flicker]

Where am I

[worn night]

im exaggerating just look at that timestamp

[dense locust]

I only see negative time during a livestreams

[dense locust]

Am I still part of this?

[craggy shoal]

you're growing up

you're doing good

:) 👍

[misty sparrow]

steam gift

lmao

[worn night]

id say around negative 4:00 then

or -3:50

[nocturne flicker]

Gonna gift Roomba a container of steam I see, yes

[dense locust]

Negative starting from when the stream currently is

[misty sparrow]

yeah

[misty sparrow]

gas leak

[worn night]

guh

I legit called out his discord mods

and bro saw my message

said not to ban me since i look chill and i still get banned from twitch chat

[nocturne flicker]

Sad

[royal crow]

That's messed up

I bet bros in on ts

[broken arrow]

Does the gift cards actually work?😭

[worn night]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dHPl61YXWH0

[worn night]

what gift card

[broken arrow]

The newegg gift cards !

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16800999157?srsltid=AfmBOoobYEhK3iP6RsZYfuqyUStA8QNI9u8UdFIeZ4xaJkBITvqwwVqT

This !!!

[worn night]

Oh are you asking if they work bc you want to buy one

Thats what im guessing

Me personally i havent tried but if you get one and it doesnt work, you can speak to newegg representatives directly through here and theyll be happy to fix it

[lone mango]

granny gamer

[nocturne flicker]

She's still going?

What a legend

[rancid juniper]

wasn't that the game that took forever to go global?

[fair onyx]

Chat I just made an impulse purchase

But I think it's a really good one 😅

It was too good if a deal to pass up 😅

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/expand-on-that-seth-meyers-late-night-with-seth-meyers-tell-me-more-explain-gif-20031393

[fair onyx]

@dusk knot you're gonna hate love me

The deal I got is criminal lmao

[nocturne flicker]

He did explain

Gonna be a container of steam

[sinful blade]

[lone mango]

Gamer granny

[worn night]

Did u see my message

[broken arrow]

Yea! I ordered a $200 one and still haven’t gotten it yet

I’m just waiting tho!

[worn night]

Ohh how long has it been

i would think it should be within the day

like when buying windows

[broken arrow]

30 minutes!

[worn night]

oh lol

checking your inbox of the email of your newegg account right?

[broken arrow]

Yea I am but there’s nothing there

[misty sparrow]

it wouldn't be a surprise if i told you

[sinful blade]

It may take a longer time

Gift cards are often lagging behind

[broken arrow]

Thats scares me...

[sinful blade]

I swear to the traveler if it’s mass effect

[broken arrow]

[sinful blade]

It’s true for a lot of stores

[tranquil pebble]

I wonder what every YouTube thumbnail averaged into one would look like

[dusk knot]

?

[fair onyx]

Galaxy Tab S10 Ultra for $505

$1300 tablet for $505, 😅

(Its even better than that @dusk knot)

[fair onyx]

Its the Tab S10 Ultra, WITH the official samsung Keyboard case, for $505 😅

And it even had the original peels lmao

so a $1300 tablet and a $200 case, for $505 😅

Hell, even if I didn't wanna keep it (for whatever reason), I could SELL IT for more than that lmao

Thanks BestBuy open box 😅

[dusk knot]

Best Buy out of all places…wow

Condition?

[fair onyx]

"Fair"

But I looked the tablet over and it looks brand new. The keyboard case is a little gross, but I think its "Fair" cause it was returned without the box or charging cable, which is marked as "fair" since its missing original items

but the S10 Ultra still has all the peels around the edge and everything

My guess is, they bought it, and a few days later the S11 Ultra dropped (It came out like 5 days ago lmao)

but I mean... For that price I will GLADLY go a gen back lmao

hell, I can't even find a refurbished S8 ultra for that price

[rancid juniper]

no way... Amnesia the bunker???

[tranquil pebble]

πthon lol

[fair onyx]

sick!

[rancid juniper]

ill keep it but will probably never play it lmao

[fair onyx]

Same lol

I have like 300 free games from Epic at this point

[rancid juniper]

fr

[fair onyx]

oh weird, the second one is just a free addon for a game you have to own. Weird

[rancid juniper]

🤔

[fair onyx]

dang, my tablet is updating now lol

WOW that was fast

[dusk knot]

Congrats

[fair onyx]

this tablet is honestly kinda too big... lmfao

a 14.6 inch tablet is just insane 😅

[gleaming rivet]

I love mine

Bigger is better

When it comes to tablets

[fair onyx]

I would agree, but it can't fit in the area I used my old one for as my second display 😅

[gleaming rivet]

Rip. I only use mine when sitting in bed. I have a lap cushion that it sits on with a keyboard and I use my orochi v2 mouse so it's like.. basically a laptop

[dusk knot]

It’s shrinks with time

[fair onyx]

yeah haha

Man, I have so much tech...

S22 Ultra, Tab S10 Ultra, Tab S6, Galaxy Book 3 pro 360, Galaxy Watch 5 pro, and an old Note 9 I still use for some stuff

[gleaming rivet]

No PC?

[fair onyx]

Oh, I was meaning just mobile tech

[gleaming rivet]

I still have my s22u, but I use my s25u. I have my iPhone 14, but I use my 16 more. My tab S10 and my watch 4 that I have 2 of. I feel you on having to much lol

[fair onyx]

if I count everything then...

S22 Ultra, Tab S10 Ultra, Tab S6, Galaxy Book 3 pro 360, Galaxy Watch 5 pro, and an old Note 9 I still use for some stuff

12600k, 64GB DD5 6000mhz, 3090, modded 3060ti 16GB

MSI MEG 342C QD-OLED UWQHD+ 175hz monitor, 16 inch 2880x1800 120hz Samsung AMOLED portable monitor

And 2 3D printers 😅

[fair onyx]

I use all of it, which is good

this Tab S10 ultra is just so huge haha

But, I have the Tab S6 for when the 10 ultra is too big, so

I love my Tab S6, and I will keep using it for a long time until it basically dies

I know this is a weird thing to be happy about, but I am REALLY glad the S10 Ultra has a flash

the amount of times I have needed a flashlight (usually to look for my phone), and the Tab S6 doesn't have one lmao

I really wanna load this tablet up with some bluray movies and just watch crap on my commute to work lol

butttt, I feel like that would make me a target of getting mugged

[weak cedar]

So can anyone upload to X now?

This is all I see now

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/mykel-panda-sad-rain-comfy-gif-17854706157206508312

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/beer-gif-3080179580444295005

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/npc-behavior-be-like-gif-10607292567092564523

[lone mango]

This is really bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhqoTku-HAA

All just to make facebook slop and manipulate people

I want to go back to the ai search era

[fair onyx]

discord on this tablet is absurd

[sinful blade]

you’re showing the super secret chat sytan smh smh

[fair onyx]

this tablet in general is absurd lmao

[sinful blade]

[fair onyx]

MAGNIFYING GLASS ENHANCEEEE

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[fair onyx]

See, nobody would have even noticed, had you not said anything

[dense locust]

[sinful blade]

They’ve noticed @fair onyx
Now would you please come to the back of the shed, we can talk about the rabbits

[dense locust]

You never take me AILIVE

[fair onyx]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/911293186398367794/1023436516447506463/ezgif.com-gif-maker_-_2022-07-15T183109.613.gif

[sinful blade]

I’m cooked

[fair onyx]

oop

[sinful blade]

This HDD is done for and I don’t have a repair kit

I was really hoping to fix this thing

[misty sparrow]

They never said they were coming after you

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/bang-deanwinchester-supernatural-spn-jensen-ackles-gif-4652875

[ashen swan]

hmmm

Geforce now looks pretty fun ngl

[remote geode]

true

i wish my intel card can do stuff like that sometimes

[ashen swan]

wait why

geforce now is a subscribtion how can you struggle

[remote geode]

oh wait

i confused it with geforce experience

[dusk knot]

Oooh…good watch

All the ai slop coming from sora 2 is very concerning too

It’s making the population dumber

[worn night]

the facebook boomers are falling for it

[elfin mural]

this might end up being a looping feedback to the data that ai will be fed

[dusk knot]

That’s the premise

[elfin mural]

it's only a matter of time before the internet dies and the data the ai could train with ends up hurting itself

[dusk knot]

Exactly

[worn night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1130929967480438938/1149446508199022694/7ydgmj.gif

[dusk knot]

Anyone’s going to watch tron: ares today?

[pliant berry]

Nope, working all day

Is it only in theaters today

[royal crow]

nah, have homework

[median kelp]

What's funny is I don't think it's still worth this price

[worn night]

thats totally worth it

[ashen swan]

Worth it

it's cheaper then

a 90060XT 8gb

[worn night]

cheaper than a b580

[ashen swan]

and a B580

and sometimes out peformes them

[median kelp]

I got a 9060XT 8GB for $200 and it barely felt worth it tbh

[ashen swan]

good for budget ballers

[worn night]

id buy that just to resell it for higher afterwards

[ashen swan]

ah i see

[ashen swan]

BRUTALL

[worn night]

profit 🗿

[median kelp]

You can't even play BF6 on 1080P highest settings with 8GB and it's a well optimized game

[lone mango]

Highest settings is a waste

[royal crow]

no game made after like 2022 is optimizied

[ashen swan]

yeah no shoot

[ashen swan]

So true

[median kelp]

Game runs on a 9 year old 60 class card

[lone mango]

Goes for any game

[ashen swan]

have you seen BF6 and B580 with 1440P

[median kelp]

It's actually pretty decently optimized

FSR balanced low gets you 60 on a GPU that's about to be dropped from product support so I think that's pretty good

[rancid juniper]

If I were to use something like upscaling I'd crank everything to the max + RT

If I don't use max settings it's native resolution for me, unless the game doesn't take much resources I'll use max

[royal crow]

i thought it was like super unoptimized, like reco'd specs was 9800x3d 5080

[ashen swan]

Na BF6 is being praised rn for how optimized it is actally

[royal crow]

dang

[rancid juniper]

I mean it should be standard for a competitive title to begin with.

Let me see..

The finals and valorant are both based on UE5 and ran very well. Both are competitive titles

[ashen swan]

a b580 with a 7800X3D ? i forgot can run 1440P high setting 70~68 fps if i'm right

[ashen swan]

Valorent cpa your FPS at 300FPS which is really smart ngl

[rancid juniper]

Why exactly?

Probably engine limits or to give people a fair play

[ashen swan]

spends more time Making the game have a Fair field and more optimzed so they don't have to worry of the peak the game can go focusing on how balanced it should be