general-chat

[median kelp]

makes sense

I build a lot of machines but they are more midrange machines for resale

so I don't handle a lot of $750+ gpus

[olive plaza]

in researching how to fit two 5090's into one case, I ran into the fact that nothing fits in 3-slot except the founders

[median kelp]

I bought my meshify 2 xl for my 4090 trinity OC

which was a 4 slot BEHEMOTH

well it says 3.5 but that stupid shroud hangs so far down it was like 4+

and now it really looks like I have a 5070 or something

because the card is so small in my case

[olive plaza]

https://www.newegg.com/gamer/community/t/whats-better-than-one-geforce-rtx-5090/3563

I wrote this article, this is me

[median kelp]

YO THAT'S MY CASE

[olive plaza]

Meshify 2 XL?

yeah

because it has 9 expansion slots, I can fit two 5090's

the only requirement is that the motherboard needs to have an x16 in the second-lowest position

[median kelp]

what is the pcie bandwidth on that last slot on that motherboard?

[olive plaza]

I don't know

and it doesn't matter for AI workloads

[median kelp]

I don't deal with many AI workloads (yet) so I am not really well versed in what they need tbh

My company hasn't been AI pilled

only a matter of time I guess

[olive plaza]

Well, memory is going to become unobtanium in the next few months

Not sure if you heard about OpenAI's contract

but we're gonna get to the point where 32GB is a luxury

So if you want to continue dealing in somewhat high-end builds, you need people who can justify the price

and AI is that

[median kelp]

Yes I have looked into it a lot

used 3090 24GB are going to skyrocket even more

have you seen their pricing recently

[olive plaza]

Nope

[median kelp]

they keep INCREASING in value

[olive plaza]

I have a 3090TI that I'm holding onto for now

gonna sell it in the next few months

[median kelp]

With memory prices going to increase so much

I don't believe the nvidia super leaks

I don't think nvidia is willingly going to give away more memory in their cards when they're still selling well

[upper rain]

lmk if you do 👀

hypothetically what would you price at?

[olive plaza]

Well I don't discuss selling my stuff in general chat but if you're looking to buy I can discuss in DMs

[upper rain]

would also probably be a 'in the next few months' kinda thing for me too, but totally hmu if/when ur ready to sell

what model is it btw?

i have a thing for EVGAs

[olive plaza]

it's an MSI, but it doesn't have the stock cooler. It's upgraded with an Eiswolf from Alphacool, which is a full-coverage block AIO system with a 360mm rad

it's exactly as I've just described it

full coverage block, so the GPU die, VRAM, power delivery, all watercooled

and it's an AIO system with a 360mm radiator.

It was approximately a $300 cooler

Didn't wanna chance any issues with a $2299 GPU.

[upper rain]

fair lol

might be too rich for my blood then, but ya never know ig. maybe i'll hit the lotto

i'm still waiting on northwest repair to fix my EVGA one lol

i'm number 180 or something in queue now

[olive plaza]

oh boy

that's something else

[upper rain]

165, i've moved up in the world

at current rate i'll have it repaired by this time next year lol

but i'm in no rush, it is a collector's item that i will probably overclock the heck out of

[sinful blade]

What is a <$125 thing I can ask for for my birthday? Relating to pcs

[upper rain]

monitor mayhaps? or general peripheral stuff. nice SSD. case

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hztcsp

My build

[upper rain]

mhm i was looking at it through the link in bio

[olive plaza]

32GB of ram

[upper rain]

tbh maybe just like some ram and an SSD

[olive plaza]

Roomba I forget, do you have micro center

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Z45XB3G
3600 CL16, very good ram

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-tridentz-rgb-series-32gb-ddr4-3600-cas-latency-cl16-desktop-memory-black/p/N82E16820232906
This is only a couple dollars more and looks nicer

[sinful blade]

I do not

[sinful blade]

I don’t quite need 3600
I’m solid with 3200mhz if you find some cheap RGB option

[olive plaza]

I mean, if you aren't going to use an X3D CPU, then faster RAM and faster infinity fabric helps the whole PC along

and ~1800MHz Infinity Fabric is the guarantee on Zen3

That said if you really want RGB and 3200, let me check

[median kelp]

zen 1-3 are really dependent on memory speed

[sinful blade]

I am not smart when it comes to ram

I only know to go for cl16 and cl30

[olive plaza]

Well it's time for your crash course

[sinful blade]

Psus and ram are where I blank with recc

I just give everyone tforce

[median kelp]

nowadays the newer architecture for zen 4 and 5 make ram speed a lot less impactful

[olive plaza]

Ryzen runs a ring bus which handles communications between the two chiplets, the I/O die, etc. That's called "Infinity Fabric."
On Zen 3 the default speed for that is 1600MHz. It must be an exact divider of the RAM speed. So if you run 3200MHz RAM, you get 1600MHz Infinity Fabric.
The faster your infinity fabric, the better the entire machine runs.
Zen 3 can typically always handle 1800MHz Infinity Fabric, which is why 3600MHz RAM is extremely popular for Ryzen 5000 series

[sinful blade]

So giving myself that extra 400mhz per stick, is a good idea compared to just sticking with 3200?

What would be the increase in speed going from 16 to 32gb for 3600?

[dense locust]

ram: does it run?
psu: does it not explode my pc?

[median kelp]

Well to be fair, with ram I think latency and speed are decently important up to a point

[olive plaza]

Since you're running both a Ryzen 5000 CPU and a 500 series chipset, yes, 3600MHz would be a great idea

I'm not sure the increase in speed can be quantified across the board, but we're talking a few percent on average in games

[median kelp]

up to 3800mhz is usually fine with zen 3 (5000 series)

[sinful blade]

Interesting

[olive plaza]

Then Roomba the next thing is, since you don't have 3D V-Cache, the latency is important.

[sinful blade]

So I’d want cl16

[olive plaza]

If you had a 5700X3D, I'd say get 3600MHz and get the cheapest, slowest latency possible because it doesn't matter at all

[tranquil pebble]

Half Life 3 and the apocalypse will probably happen on the same day

[olive plaza]

but because you have a regular 5700X, opt for CL16

note that the most common latency on 3600MHz is CL18, because that's exactly 10ns

CL16 is faster than average

[median kelp]

Zen 1-3 because of how the infinity fabric and cache is designed makes it very memory dependent. The difference between 2666 and 3000 mhz for zen 1 for example was almost 15% in some games. I remember gamer nexus doing a deep dive back in the day in like 2017

it was crazy

[olive plaza]

Yep

[median kelp]

except some zen 1 chips couldn't handle the 3000mhz speed even though it was like a 15% OC on the IF

like it wasn't even that much over spec

[olive plaza]

Zen1 was only rated for 2933 on 2 sticks and 2666 on 4 sticks

and being AMD's first DDR4 foray, there wasn't much headroom

[median kelp]

wasn't it 2666 on 2 dual rank sticks?

[olive plaza]

possibly. dual rank sticks were VERY uncommon back then

[median kelp]

Bigger capacity ones were and people were running into issues building productivity machines I remember

[olive plaza]

Yeah which was funny when people were opting for Zen over Intel simply from the fact Zen had 8 cores and Intel only had 6

[median kelp]

because when the 1700x launched it was such good value

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-music-head-shaking-eyes-close-chill-gif-17828830

[median kelp]

I think when the 1700x launched intel didn't even have 8th gen launched yet, right?

wasn't that like 5 months later?

[olive plaza]

no

8th was out

it's 9th that wasn't

1700X launched March 2017

you're right

That's crazy, I swore the 8th gen was out already

[median kelp]

nope

[olive plaza]

Intel really doubled down on 6 cores

idiots

[median kelp]

People were really jumping ship from 4 core 7700K's

to 8 core 1700x

it was actually an insane time

[olive plaza]

I talked to a guy who worked for Intel during that timeframe

[median kelp]

except people were trying to do lots of ram and their systems would not post because the memory controllers were struggling with the high capacity dual rank sticks

[tranquil pebble]

Intel made a lot of stupid choices during that time and even up to now

[olive plaza]

He said there was palpable panic in the office when Zen launched

[median kelp]

because people were trying to do 4 sticks of high capcity ram and even at 2666 the machines were not wanting to post

people were running at 2400 and even 2133 with high amounts of memory

[olive plaza]

and now that you hammered down the timeframe a bit more it makes sense. "We only have 4 cores, they have 8, what do we do"
someone in the office really said let's make 6 cores

[tranquil pebble]

makes sense... the IPC uplift over Bulldozer made AMD a credible threat for the first time in YEARS

[median kelp]

well they had the products almost done at the timeframe, last 6 months is usually engineering and QC samples

[olive plaza]

Not that different from now with Zen4 and Zen5 only supporting 3600MHz DDR5 if you're using 4 sticks

[median kelp]

my machine took 75 minutes to train TWO 24GB dimms at 6400mhz

I legit thought it was broken

my friend went "leave it for like 2 hours see if it posts"

it posted once and didn't have an issue until I updated bios and took 35 minutes

[olive plaza]

had you already updated to latest BIOS beforehand

[median kelp]

I don't like updating bios before I do first boot to make sure I didn't break it with bios update tbh

[olive plaza]

but also, 6400 is a bit rich for AM5

[median kelp]

I already had the sticks

I upgraded from a 13700K

[olive plaza]

were they EXPO enabled or

[median kelp]

that oxidized and died

Yeah they have expo and xmp profile

[olive plaza]

Generally should have been fine then

but I will say, if I'm doing a Zen4/Zen5 build I stick to 6000MHz

I don't like playing the silicon lottery

[median kelp]

once it trained

it was fine

but good lord

I have a friend that's running 8000mhz dimms (2x16) with his 9900X and I'm like

HOW DID YOU GET IT TO TRAIN AND POST

[olive plaza]

oh LMAO that's 16GB sticks.

[median kelp]

apparently

[olive plaza]

Infinitely easier

[median kelp]

32GB dimms are even easier to run than the 24GB and 48GB ones

apparently zen 4 and 5 really don't like it

[olive plaza]

unless you have 4 of them, yes

four 32GB sticks is a bad time

[median kelp]

Well I bought it for an intel build

[olive plaza]

Yeah and that's totally fair

[median kelp]

intel natively supports 24GB dimms, the 24GB dimms aren't even in my motherboards supported ram list

[median kelp]

it's actually kinda silly

I had gotten 48GB of ram because at the time, 32GB kits were still expensive and 64 were unobtanium for decent prices

this was november of 2022

[olive plaza]

oh so those capacities were NEW

[median kelp]

oh yeah the 24GB dimms launched with 13th gen

and the 48GB too

but I'm not running 96GB of ram I have no use

The 48GB was just because it was $30 more than the 32 kit of the same speed

and I figured it'd be better "future proofing" since ddr5 is going to be the standard for a while

[olive plaza]

lol

That was your first mistake

"Future proofing"

[median kelp]

to be fair

I bought 32 GB of ddr4 for my i5 8400

and it lasted me through my 12600K

I used it for like 5 years

with a few different platforms

[olive plaza]

Future proofing: The act of buying more than your use case calls for at the time with the illusion that it will help you at some point in the future, with high probability you will need to upgrade that item anyway down the line.

[olive plaza]

that's insane.

[median kelp]

PSU Ram and SSD's are the only things I tend to overbuy

[olive plaza]

and I'm willing to bet it was 2666MHz

[median kelp]

It was a 3000 mhz kit too

4 8GB sticks

[olive plaza]

that must have been pricey

[median kelp]

I don't remember how much it was but they were clearance at best buy

they were those gskil aegis kits

I bought 2 kits

you know the ones with those red stickers

[olive plaza]

Back in 2018, I built a system for my best friend Rich out of a Ryzen 1700X

it was right after the 2700X launched so people were selling their 1700X's for cheap

and I remember buying him 16GB of DDR4-2666 and it was like, $120

[median kelp]

my 8400 wouldn't run it at 3000 for some reason but it would at 2933 with no errors it was funny. I then upgraded to 8600K for $115 (low balled someone that upgraded to a 9700x) and it ran

oh no

that's when ram was super expensive

and hard drives too

the 2018 crypto crisis

[olive plaza]

Someone upgraded from a 8600k to 9700k

and lost threads

[median kelp]

Yep

[olive plaza]

Sir that's not an upgrade

[median kelp]

they had it listed for 170 I offered them 115 and to be there in an hour and they took it

I went

hell yeah

Sold my 8400 for $120

[olive plaza]

LOL

[median kelp]

I made $5

And then I delidded and overclocked it and good lord

[olive plaza]

The best "trade deal" I've ever had

[median kelp]

I managed to get 5.2 ghz on it

but I was running really high vcore

I think it was 1.4

I didn't care I ran that thing until 12600K came out

got a ddr4 board and slapped my ram in there

[olive plaza]

I had an RTX 4060 on hand which i paid like, $260 for.
Someone I know had contacted me and was like, I really want that for a project I'm working on, can I trade you some parts.
I wound up with an ASRock A520 ITX motherboard, 5700X3D, some Thermalright cooler, and an SFX 850W Cooler Master power supply in exchange for that GPU
He then contacted me back 4 months later and I still had the power supply, and he wanted to buy it. So I sold it to him for $150

[unreal trail]

mushpang

[median kelp]

LMAO

was it one of the low profile ones?

[olive plaza]

so I currently have a 5700X3D and ITX motherboard which cost me $110 in the end

[median kelp]

those were crazy sold out for a while

[olive plaza]

nope

[median kelp]

then ???

[olive plaza]

bog standard 4060 from Gigabyte

[median kelp]

those 1.5 slot 4060's were legit going for $500 at one point

[olive plaza]

idk man

but the 5700X3D currently sells used for 300 bucks

[median kelp]

what's funny is the new price dropped down so low

[olive plaza]

I am fully aware

Let me tell you

[median kelp]

it was like $210 with rebates at one point

I think it was AMD shotgunning their remaining stock

it's weird though because now they make a 5500x3d and I wonder how much of that is bad 5600x3d/5700x3d stock

[median kelp]

tech has been weird like that crazy

[olive plaza]

micro center receipt

[median kelp]

HOLY HELL

excuse me

wym

wym 155.75

[olive plaza]

new sealed

[median kelp]

insane

[olive plaza]

🧙‍♂️

[median kelp]

My 4090 when I sold it could've gotten me $200 more than I bought it for 3 years later

but I sold it to a friend for $1400

[olive plaza]

this was a time when combos were going extra hard at Micro Center

[median kelp]

I built my friend a 12600K combo in like 2023

was legit $250

[olive plaza]

You had to buy a CPU, board, and RAM. But it didn't matter what RAM

[median kelp]

I was like ???

[olive plaza]

That's why there's a 4GB DDR3 stick on the receipt

[median kelp]

the cpu goes brand new for $200 how you doing that

that was legit the best value bundle for a long time

[olive plaza]

heh

[median kelp]

$250 I could make a non gaming setup for $400

it was actually kinda crazy

I think I bought 3 of those bundles

[olive plaza]

I bought a 13700K used for $175 and then traded it to my friend in Florida who had a 12600K. He sent that CPU to me plus $120

so I have a 12600K that cost me $55

[median kelp]

I sold my 13700K new in box with the ram that came with my 9800 x3d combo from microcenter

[olive plaza]

THAT'S HILARIOUS

[median kelp]

"how come it's new in box"
"intel sent me a brand new unit because my previous one fried itself"

[olive plaza]

because I think the G.Skill Flare doesn't have XMP

I think it's EXPO only

[median kelp]

LMFAO

[worn night]

what about upgrade from 6500 to 6700k

[olive plaza]

you're a menace

[median kelp]

oh well you don't really need xmp

you can just manually set it

[olive plaza]

[worn night]

ive done worse

wanna hear

[olive plaza]

at the time, it would have made sense

[median kelp]

yeah would've made a lot of sense

[olive plaza]

4 cores 4 threads to 4 cores 8 threads, and higher clock speed

right now it would make sense if you had both chips on hand

[median kelp]

the 4 threads and the insane like what 500mhz difference was going hard af

intel really used to segment their product stack

[olive plaza]

but I wouldn't spend any money on a 6700K in 2025

Someone recycling the PC, sure I'd take it

[median kelp]

oh I wouldn't buy ANYTHING before 8th gen rn personally

just because of dumb windows 11 requirements. the resale value is absolutely tanked if you are ever planning on reselling it making builds with them

[olive plaza]

Speaking of Win11

[median kelp]

LMAO

you knew exactly what I was on about

[olive plaza]

Did you see that Windows 7 usage is up

[median kelp]

yeah well if I'm going to be on an unsupported system

[olive plaza]

people really are being like, "Whatever I'll just use 7"

[median kelp]

I might as well use the one I prefer

[olive plaza]

it's such a bad take for anyone who has an email address

[median kelp]

Maybe W8 will see a resurgence

[olive plaza]

nah nah

I'm gonna get back into my Windows 2000 era

[median kelp]

okay so our workplace was a pretty easy migration

because most of our machines are from 2019 or newer

but good lord

[olive plaza]

if I'm gonna be on an unsupported system, might as well skirt Microsoft's stupid product activation

and use Win2000

[median kelp]

a friend showed me a video he works in a big corporate office for a news company

they are legit tossing about 650 office machines

because they're 6th gen intel and don't meet requirements

they're used for basic office work

all going to recycling

it's actually gut wrenching

[olive plaza]

There needs to be a program in place for these machines to get like, a current copy of Ubuntu

and be provided to impovershed families

[worn night]

is there somewhere i can submit my gpu overclock for a spot in perhaps a record set, i cant find anything online about someone getting more than 3.5ghz on a b580

[median kelp]

Yeah like dude like throw mint on there or something because they're legit using word and checking email

[median kelp]

what kind of silicon lottery nonsense do you have going on

[olive plaza]

TS82 what are you on about

[worn night]

im not joking

[olive plaza]

3DMark has validation for that sort of thing

[worn night]

and i got validated

[elfin mural]

i think there's hwbot

[median kelp]

What frequency are you running

[worn night]

since i redid the oc with verified drivers

google my reddit post lol

[elfin mural]

but 3dmark validates results already

[olive plaza]

^^

3.5GHz damn

[median kelp]

I haven't seen anyone I know even get close to 3.5 with a b580

Isn't the boost clock like 2.8??

[olive plaza]

at that clock speed it's probably almost as fast as a 4060TI

[median kelp]

we're gonna start calling it a b590

[elfin mural]

i guess

[worn night]

my card out of the box boosts to 2.9ghz

[olive plaza]

I have a B580, should I check what I can OC to

[elfin mural]

a b770 would run 3ghz+?

if intel ever makes one

lol

[median kelp]

b770 is rumored to be launching in november but we'll see

[elfin mural]

let's wait

[median kelp]

bro razer updated synapse and now occasionally my keys will like lag and press in an alternated pattern and it's rare but I keep getting stuff like claling instead of calling

and it's actually going to drive me insane

and sometimes it's more than just 1 letter apart

I'll say like "ryzen" and it'll be "yzern"

or it's double pressing keys randomly

[worn night]

why it only say 3.250

it was at 3.4 for that run

[elfin mural]

razer also exploits a windows security vulnerability

it hijacks windows to insert a popup when you plug a razer peripheral into a pc that hasn't installed synapse

[olive plaza]

do you want me to run steel nomad on mine

[elfin mural]

the dialogue tells the user to install synapse

just wild

[median kelp]

oh that's for older stuff btw

[worn night]

sure idm

[median kelp]

the newer stuff comes pre loaded with the installer!

[worn night]

Bro if i had a 9800x3d i could get a higher score

[elfin mural]

im glad they stopped doing that for the newer-

ew

[median kelp]

like my viper ultimate if I plug it into a computer

[elfin mural]

that's even worse

[median kelp]

asks if I want to run the installer

[elfin mural]

[median kelp]

it's literally like part of the wireless dongle or plugging the mouse in

[elfin mural]

malware activities

[worn night]

the any cpu chart says im in top 22%

[median kelp]

they have it actually loaded

[elfin mural]

it literally is malware atp

[median kelp]

My blackwidow v3 pro was purchased in 2020

[elfin mural]

a wireless dongle that has some storage

[median kelp]

and I swaer synapse is ****ing me up to drive me insane and to get me to upgrade

[elfin mural]

that's just asking for trouble

[median kelp]

think it's communicating with the mouse

[elfin mural]

ah

[median kelp]

plugging it in with the mouse off doesn't do anything

[elfin mural]

that would make sense too

[median kelp]

the mouse has onboard storage for transferring profiles between multiple devices

it's actually super handy for my laptop

[elfin mural]

that's cool tho

[median kelp]

yeah it's actually the reason I got the mouse

[elfin mural]

im just upset by the synapse shenanigans

[median kelp]

the dock is the wireless key and it also has a standalone usb key too

it's actually really well designed and feels so good

and then synapse be making me go insane

I also really like my keyboard even though I got it on a best buy clearance

I think it was like $220 down to $140

held up great even after 5 years

I have no wear on any of the keys

it's actually kinda eery

although the volume knob has ceased to work properly

[elfin mural]

i dislike being forced to install software, especially so if it's crap

[median kelp]

both ways I scroll turns down the volume

[median kelp]

okay and tell me why

synapse needs to update every 2 weeks

[elfin mural]

because yes

[median kelp]

and wants to restart my computer

and if I don't do it

my mouse won't do my custom sensitivity settings

[elfin mural]

every 2 weeks they want to find a way to make you suffer

[median kelp]

it goes to default stepping

and one of the steps is 20,000 DPI

like

if It's at 20,000 I legit can't move the damn cursor anymore

[elfin mural]

because a mouse software is apparently in need of constant updates

[median kelp]

okay I will say

games that are compatible with synapse

are super cool too

like doom having the health bar as the function key lights?

that's cool af

[lone mango]

Glad I stopped using razer

[elfin mural]

too bad the software experience is subpar

[lone mango]

The software crutch is annoying

[elfin mural]

that's really my sole problem with razer

[median kelp]

synapse is my entire problem

well and pricing

[elfin mural]

other than that

good stuff

[median kelp]

but their stuff is always on woot

they're really like apple imo

a lot of the stuff is good quality but that pricing

is like

literally just to show off

a midrange mechanical keyboard should not be $200

My sisters red dragon one was $70 and has so much nicer switches that it makes me sad sometimes

bro speaking of the devil

my mouse stopped working and I went ??? it's because synapse crashed

[olive plaza]

Razer products were really really good 15-20 years ago

[olive plaza]

My C3 Pro from Keychron being under $40 on sale is a testament to this

[tranquil pebble]

Well, Alienware used to be good too.

Before Dell got them and well, yeah

[olive plaza]

I guess, same thing applies to Omen before HP bought VoodooPC

[dense locust]

yeah it should be $500

hello my name is asus

[olive plaza]

"You looked at it funny, so your warranty is void"

[dense locust]

"your pcb has wear, warrenty void"

[olive plaza]

You know what really grinds my gears

Companies are allowed to deny warranty if you are not the original purchaser

This is the sole reason I recommend that nobody ever buy someone else a Playstation as a gift

Sony is allowed to, at its discretion, decide that they don't have to honor the warranty if you didn't buy the Playstation

it's in their warranty terms

So you get a PS5 for Christmas and it stops turning on for some reason in February

you're cooked

[tranquil pebble]

They would deny warranty for any reason they can get away with legally

[olive plaza]

correct

[median kelp]

Yep

[median kelp]

(it was 2018) they were adamant about the warranty void if removed stickers

it took a very threatening letter from the FTC to sony and microsoft for them to stop pulling that with the consoles

https://www.vice.com/en/article/warranty-void-if-removed-stickers-sony-microsoft-nintendo-ftc-letters/

they don't put explicit language on the consoles anymore, but still use detectors to see if you've been inside

[median kelp]

so the moss warranty act was primarily designed for cars, and this was one of the compromises with the car industry at the time, and it's never been fixed since then

the fact that most of our warranty law is from 1975 still is insane

50 years

it's been changed very little since then

[olive plaza]

that's because the economy has been in a slow spiral since then

[median kelp]

car industry didn't like the idea of people being able to sell the car and they have to be still liable to fix it

although, this isn't specific persons, it's the entity that buys it

so if you buy it as like a company, or jointly buy it (like a couple joint buying a car), any one that's of that party can get it serviced

it just screws individuals in particular

but to be fair a lot of big companies at the time would just take their fleet to the dealerships for major issues anyways so it's not like it's that impactful

and it's great that the law was for all warranties even though it was aimed at vehicles because that would've gotten a lot more distopian

[dense locust]

yet companies still do it all the time

to be fair i dont think the current ftc cares

[median kelp]

that was trumps FTC in his first term that did it

but now we got a clown in on the second term

I also miss lina khan

she actually fined and strong armed a lot of people

[dense locust]

then got denied

and google got a slap on the back and said "dont do it again ok?"

[lone mango]

god king trump of the levant

[median kelp]

I think a lot of people were like blindsided by how surprisingly competent his administration was in his first term

a lot of people that like still knew how to do their jobs and had a experience

and assumed this time would be like that time but there was literally warning signs it wasn't going to be

[rancid juniper]

There has been a huge shift between pre-covid and after, and im talking everybody

[median kelp]

Yeah there definitely has

[rancid juniper]

i honestly can't believe how wild a lockdown had significant effects on one's psyche

[median kelp]

only reason why the administration was so competent is they put like experienced republican policy makers in the cabinet and a lot of them refused to do what they were asked

and now it's just friends

[median kelp]

well I think most of it boils down to the lack of public infrastructure and the entire culture and economy being centered around traveling

[rancid juniper]

hmm

[median kelp]

A lot of people I knew were figuring out how to cook for the first time during covid

[rancid juniper]

[median kelp]

A lot of the U.S. just doesn't cook at home and gets food out, you'd be surprised the ratio

[rancid juniper]

no brainer that fast food chains are dummy rich

lol

[median kelp]

Yeah america eats out a crazy amount compared to most countries

even like sit down restaurants

[rancid juniper]

SUGAR

SUGAR

WE LOVE SUGAR

[median kelp]

actually Idk if it's we love sugar

or if it's everything has sugar so we are accustomed to it

[lone mango]

Went exactly to plan for the unelected officials

[tranquil pebble]

I feel like this got way worse this decade

[weak cedar]

Well to be fair if it's just you all the stuff you want to make is fir 4 to 6 people 😅

[rancid juniper]

😔

[median kelp]

well actually it was peaking during early 2000's and has not returned to that level consistently since then

[tranquil pebble]

in my area people get road rage just trying to get into a drive thru sometimes

[sinful blade]

I am going to let you guys know

Politics are a big no-go

[median kelp]

ever since the big health scare

[lone mango]

eu plans to start rolling out the digital euro late this year

[rancid juniper]

im unsure if i can get surprised at this point

[lone mango]

goodbye freedom

[rancid juniper]

people rage at the smallest of things

actually smoothbrain behavior

[median kelp]

I remember mcdonalds even had to cut super size during the big health scare thing

[rancid juniper]

wat

[sinful blade]

I’d suggest steering into dms to talk about anything political due to current climate

[rancid juniper]

Climate is pretty hot

🔥

[median kelp]

It's sad that talking about like factual stuff in politics can cause huge fires now

I remember like pre 2014 era it was a lot more civil to try and discuss things

[sinful blade]

It’s an unfortunate reality. The divide has been super-accelerated by social media.

[lone mango]

https://tenor.com/view/keith-lee-morgan-freeman-true-nxt-wwe-gif-1698026969390630772

[rancid juniper]

This "divide" is by far one of the most unhinged this era, im honestly surprised the country didn't implode yet

💀

[weak cedar]

It's hard knowing where the line is since everything is that

[median kelp]

Obama and the whitehouse getting an official twitter accounts I think was a turning point for the whole country

it intermingled politics and social media

[sinful blade]

Yeah.

[rancid juniper]

twitter burgerking

everyone has an account

its cursed

[lone mango]

need an account for your damn router

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/cillianmurphygun-cillianmurphy-jazmincoded-gif-3811002643797340103

[tranquil pebble]

istg one day we will find a way to have our pets send tweets via a neuralink equivalent

[median kelp]

funny enough I think a lot of the country is reuniting like in 2018 but we'll see, I see a path to healing

[sinful blade]

Politics should’ve stayed similar to how they always have. Don’t do stupid shit, or get removed

But I digress

[median kelp]

It's now a "who can be more stupid and get away with it"

[median kelp]

I have to sign into my ATT account on my ATT router

[rancid juniper]

I think the world would be a better place if xbox controllers stop using batteries

[lone mango]

Oops I meant modem

[tranquil pebble]

I use my own router

[lone mango]

Account for the modem

[rancid juniper]

same

[sinful blade]

Don’t forget about your separate att actual account for your phone

[lone mango]

Really stupid

[median kelp]

thankfully the only phone I use with ATT is a landline connection

and yes I still have a landline

[rancid juniper]

account for your new broom and dust pan

bro

[sinful blade]

I think we should go back to paper letters

I want to hear about what @rancid juniper did three weeks ago right now

[rancid juniper]

what i did three weeks ago???

hmm wtf did i do?

🤔

[sinful blade]

(As in you’d write a letter)

https://tenor.com/view/superman-joke-gif-7319521

[rancid juniper]

I CANT CATCH JOKES ON THE NET

[median kelp]

The joke is that mail communication takes a while

[rancid juniper]

you know i suck at this

lol

[sinful blade]

My official sticker for Newegg btw

[rancid juniper]

ah

[sinful blade]

@median kelp did I accidentally tag you a few weeks ago

And that started your entry here lmao

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/toucan-wide-horizontal-blender-horizontally-gifted-gif-1186994405196816232

[median kelp]

I think you or someone else said congrats on the 5090

I wasn't very active here for a while

I had just updated my flair

[rancid juniper]

game development

[median kelp]

I used to be very active here

especially back in my 8600K/2060 era

[rancid juniper]

ah yes the intel laziness era

i mean the era of ps4 stuff

[median kelp]

No the "We're trying I swear" era

[rancid juniper]

er

[median kelp]

8th gen was them trying going "OH NO" and "LOOK MORE CORES BUY US PLS"

[rancid juniper]

ya like quad cores?

[median kelp]

okay fr though

[rancid juniper]

cmon just one more 14nm wouldn't hurt

[median kelp]

the i3 8100 beating the i5 7400 was actually

INSANE at the time

[rancid juniper]

WHAT

[median kelp]

like people that had just bought 7th gen were so mad at coffee lake

like

FUMING

it was quite funny

[elfin mural]

intel is trying to get amd to start making its chips in intel's fab

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/what-question-gif-20642719

[median kelp]

well apparently 18a is going to have good performance

the only issue was they didn't have a major customer for it

and now nvidia wants to be said customer

[elfin mural]

amd might be interested then

just might

[tranquil pebble]

if that happens the irony is going to be off the charts

[median kelp]

AMD might use it for their budget line

[elfin mural]

but of course, nvidia just bought 5% of intel

[rancid juniper]

will intel underdeliver this time???

PLACE YOUR BETS FOLKS

[median kelp]

nvidia is going to use 18a and because of that they'll have enough funding for it

[elfin mural]

they'd naturally want to use intel's fabs

[median kelp]

because tsmc is charging too much now

like

way too much

[elfin mural]

nvidia dropped like 5 billion into intel

[median kelp]

like to the point where nvidia was like samsung or intel

for the cpus

[rancid juniper]

aint like 90%+ tech rely on TSMC?

[elfin mural]

yes

[rancid juniper]

actually wild

[elfin mural]

but intel's 18a is apparently good

[median kelp]

samsung has a really big share for automotive and stuff especially in korea

[elfin mural]

they just lack the customers

[rancid juniper]

and the country itself

company sucked everything

😂

[median kelp]

nvidia is buying thousands upon thousands of 18a cpus now

[elfin mural]

tbh for automotive

samsung is very popular

[median kelp]

you don't need power efficient chips for automotive

[elfin mural]

because cars do not need cutting edge performance

they just need to work for 10 years or more

[median kelp]

the issue with intel and samsung is that they can get you good performance

[rancid juniper]

ok, android 7's your car

[median kelp]

just at a lot less efficiency

and I mean a lot less

TSMC is just too cutting edge and they are charging an arm and a leg for those wafers now

50% increase each time they make a new node is causing cracks

[rancid juniper]

what does intel 18a promise though, like last i remember was Pat (former CEO) gushing about it

[elfin mural]

samsung is a huge conglomerate

[median kelp]

at some point you stop going for bleeding edge

[elfin mural]

it does everything good except for bleeding edge semiconductors

and modems

exynos modems are just atrocious

[rancid juniper]

fullconductors when

[median kelp]

18a is going to be about on par (slightly below) N3P

which is tsmc's 3nm node

they just made 2nm

so it's not going to be like super cutting edge

[rancid juniper]

so its like a hybrid of sorts?

[median kelp]

but it's predicted to cost 40% less than tsmc 3nm node per wafer

which is HUGE

like flabbergastingly huge

[rancid juniper]

so intel going cheap

[median kelp]

like if you don't need 2nm for phones and stuff

[rancid juniper]

well for the consumers

[median kelp]

oh and 2nm

costs more than tsmc 3nm

by almost 50%

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[median kelp]

yeah tsmc said

"88% global marketshare on chips?"

haha watch this

nvidia already went samsung once for ampere

[rancid juniper]

INFINITE MONEY GLITCH

[median kelp]

and is currently going samsung for their lighter consumer products

like some SOCs and things like the switch 2

[rancid juniper]

any consumer chip already on the 2nm node?

[median kelp]

things that don't need that insane power efficiency and density

[median kelp]

orders just opened up 2 months ago

and then you have to put them in devices

[rancid juniper]

😳

mmm interesting

[median kelp]

and nope so even iphone 17 is using N3E

which is their refined 3nm node

[rancid juniper]

i think the highest nm chip i ever used was problem a 90nm pentium 4 laptop iirc

[median kelp]

more efficient but same density as n3p

n3p is about where 18a is going to be

[rancid juniper]

majority was like 45nm/32nm, how far we've come is crazy

now running a 10nm desktop and a 4nm laptop

wow

[median kelp]

but 18a will pull more power than n3e so I don't see it being used for mobile besides laptops

[rancid juniper]

ah thats so INTEL coded

😏

[median kelp]

well

it'll also pull slighlty more than samsungs 3nm node too

which is closer to tsmc n3e

samsung just launched that 3nm node too

tsmc is just too fair ahead

also .8 nm is the theoritical limit of silicon atoms rn so I wonder when we going to try something else

there's no way to make it smaller than 4 silicon atoms without quantum tunneling issues that silicon has

and silicon atoms are .2 nm

[rancid juniper]

actually insane

[median kelp]

yeah

we have made cpus using carbon nanotubes

which have a much lower floor

but the last cpu made was a 16bit cpu for testing

to do proof of concept

we have no way of doing really small processes

bismuth is really promising too

[sinful blade]

Yeah that’s what happened

[median kelp]

bismuth has nearly unstoppable electron flow resistance so you won't get quantum tunneling issues

oh and will be like

15x more power efficient than silicon transistors

only issue is

figuring out how to actually

sculpt it

current lithography techniques will not work

[sinful blade]

Wife’s pc https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D2dbPJ

vs mine
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hztcsp

I really need to upgrade hers

[dusk knot]

Must be nice

[sinful blade]

I have no money to upgrade hers

She’s never really wanted to play newer games but now she do

[blazing nest]

I return

Again

[dusk knot]

Great change

[worn night]

get this man a sponsor newegg

1000 dollar amd ultimate upgrade

🔥🔥🔥

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/WzodEFracDo?si=twXhGAwb4iSD5_vn

Alright….this is a bit frightening

It’s getting scary real

[elfin mural]

this is exactly what i feared

i won't ever post my selfie anywhere

[tranquil pebble]

Idea: Mountain Dew flavored mozzarella sticks

[dense locust]

[random osprey]

dont be giving them ideas

[tranquil pebble]

I'm going to try it

[lethal jasper]

Make the mozzarella with mountain dew that has been mixed with powdered milk

[remote geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU5kcRUpEks

damn, the new vega gpus looks good

[upper rain]

8y ago

[tranquil pebble]

you posted a time capsule in chat

[lament dragon]

hello family

[craggy shoal]

Wow hopefully they won't be overpriced

[tranquil pebble]

I have a Vega architecture Radeon Instinct

16 GB HBM2

[remote geode]

I loved my Vega 56

it was a bloody sexy card

had to return it since it was not stable with my house's unclean power

[tranquil pebble]

thing has insane fp64, like 6 tflops or so

[worn night]

67777777

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uyaArGU4aMM

[amber linden]

Amazon is selling rx 9070 xt hellhound for 630$
Is it work to return my taichi for it

[proud jackal]

GUESS WHO WOKE UP WITH A FEVER TODAY

[craggy shoal]

Rip

[misty sparrow]

Check #tech-deals, 9070xt at MSRP

[royal crow]

Oof

[sinful blade]

My wife with a 101.2

How about you

[velvet summit]

I have a fever
And the only prescription is more cowbell

[royal crow]

Damn straight

[blazing nest]

Heya people, I have a problem with a laptop. My friend gave me it and I tried powering it on, but during loading it leads me to 0xc0000185, it's a windows 8.1 and honestly from what I read I have no idea what to do or how to fix it

From what I also heard from the laptop during startup is 3 hefty beeps, not coming from the speakers.. just simply them being there. Also while it tried to boot up windows, it always gave a feint clicking sound which was in a rythym

Anyone knows how to fix that?

Or is it cooked?

[royal crow]

Sounds like a drive problem

Also install windows 7 on that thing y u usin 8.1😭

[blazing nest]

It aint me bro it's his laptop

[blazing nest]

Can you elaborate perhaps?

Like does it mean it's up to trash?

From what I checked the eufi does read the hdd fully

[royal crow]

idrk, kinda just pullin stuff out

"clicking" makes me think drive issue but yeah idk

[blazing nest]

I mean surely it's a drive issue, like I don't know if feint clicking is natural in hdds

[royal crow]

it is not

[blazing nest]

Oh

Yeah nah I'm cooked then

[velvet summit]

Like

[velvet summit]

What kind of clicking

HDDs make noise from spinning the platter and the heads jumping around

Though only when it's accessing data or writing kt

It

[blazing nest]

Idk how to explain it

It's more of a 5x beep and a click

Then a small break and same thing

[cedar compass]

rip for hdd

[worn night]

ahh thats normal

especially when its over 100 outside

[random osprey]

just realized the system requirements for Megabonk on steam

[worn night]

comfortable at worst

potato

graphics no

LOL

[ashen swan]

hmm

i'm looking at 7000 seris

and their

kinda

hot

ngl

[velvet summit]

Suspicious

[ashen swan]

like

i kinda like the price

though i live in. taiwan lmao

[blazing nest]

Seriously?

😭

[blazing nest]

Well I assume accesing since it wants to boot up windows, no?

[cedar compass]

if it's beeping and clicking and disk is not spinning , means head stuck on platter and platter can't turn

[royal crow]

head crash.😕

[cedar compass]

sometimes it works if you open it up and move head back to its place to but not always

[blazing nest]

The disk spins tho?

Like I can hear it whirr up and slow down then

[blazing nest]

Then wouldn't the error code be different?

From what I read it means "crashed boot files/BCD"

[ashen swan]

Like

this is

7900

XTX

Buy one get on efree

this gottha be a scam

[velvet summit]

trim your links got damn

suspicious store yeah

look at the seller

[ashen swan]

ahh

yeah

[sinful blade]

Everything after the first “?” Can be deleted

[ashen swan]

to good to be true

[velvet summit]

including the ?

[sinful blade]

That too

[ashen swan]

alr

[sinful blade]

That rings true with a lot of links

[worn night]

buy 2 get 1 free it says

not 1

[velvet summit]

it's also a scam anyways

[sinful blade]

Guess who got a free old iMac because someone “thought it was running too slow”

[velvet summit]

wouldnt they be right about that

how old is it

[sinful blade]

2015

[velvet summit]

that's pretty old

[pliant berry]

I have a old imac sitting in the basement cuz its too slow

[sinful blade]

Seems fine to me

So far

[frigid stag]

most people have all kinds of bloatware on them

they run fast asf on older mac os

[sinful blade]

It has suddenly tanked.

[dusk knot]

Hm

[median kelp]

so my computer should run it fine

[median kelp]

In what way?

If it's suddenly hanging the 2015 models often came with fusion drives

it's a ssd hdd hybrid drive which were popular in the 2015-2018 time frame as a cost compromise

and the fusion drives were known to start failing

[sinful blade]

It took 1m 38s to open the photos app with nothing else running

[median kelp]

It might be the fusion drive

or it may just be the base model if the standard HDD

HDD/SDD hybrid drives were always finnicky imo

[velvet summit]

ai generated gaming pc setup is such a strange thing

[sinful blade]

As soon as I can get back to it, I’ll find out the model

[median kelp]

I remember back in the day some people were defusing the fusion drives in software too to just use the SSD portion for insane loading times. 1TB model got 32GB SSD and I think 2/3 Got like 64 or 128

[lone mango]

Marketing is frothing at the mouth

[lone mango]

They are gonna make wacky things

ai generated motherboard marketing

[velvet summit]

proper respirator is anywhere from like 50-100 dollars
and many professionals even use the forced air ones that cost like $1.5k per unit

disposable masks are like pennies

[worn night]

its not that its just us being told its sufficient lol

[lone mango]

thank you unelected officials

[velvet summit]

it's better than nothing but not as good as a reusable one

[lone mango]

you saved our lives

[velvet summit]

i've seen people in public use their work respirators out in public

at least during the pandemic

now not really

[median kelp]

rural portions of the state I lived in at the time literally sent letters to the gov. that they would not be requiring them despite state law

it was a whole mess

The state patrol was sent down 💀

I do not miss that era

I was clinging to my 2060 like crazy

then I got an EVGA FTW 3070 at $100+ msrp (619.99) and I jumped on it so fast

and then literally on launch of the 3080 12GB I got it for the msrp of $799.99 and sold my 3070 for $900 it was insane

like actually insane time

The gpu shortage was WILD

[velvet summit]

i just sat out of the gpu shortage

i didnt make money nor spend too much

[median kelp]

my 2060 sold for like $400

it was crazy times

[velvet summit]

i had a rx570

[median kelp]

I got that particular 2060 for $215 used like 3 months after launch. Person I bought it from said they couldn't stand how loud it was

it was a ventus 2x card

and oh my lord

[velvet summit]

damn

[median kelp]

repasting it didn't help. New pads didn't help

[velvet summit]

somebody bought a ventus 2x 2060 for 400 💀

[median kelp]

it would hit 87c and 95% fan speed with any game

[median kelp]

it was insane

people were selling 3070's for almost a grand

That card was LOUD

I had a bequiet sound dampening case at the time

I couldn't even hear my air cooler at max speed

but that thing?

[blazing nest]

@velvet summit so there's nothing I can do?

[median kelp]

GOOD LORD how was it louder than blower style cards

I think they went with 0 mass on the cooler and just went with as much airflow through the tiny cooler as possible

laptop mentality

[blazing nest]

Dawg 🥀

[sinful blade]

@median kelp mac 18,1

1tb

[median kelp]

so it'll read both as 1TB HDD you'll have to see the actual specific drive

you either have the 1tb HDD or 1TBB SHD

[sinful blade]

https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-i5-2.3-21-inch-aluminum-mid-2017-specs.html

[median kelp]

oop that's the fusion drive

[median kelp]

maybe?

[sinful blade]

I know nothing about Macs

It’s running under APPLE HDD under device name

[median kelp]

if you do the apple serial lookup it should tell you exact specs

to see if you have the fusion HD in there

they'll both be called HDD iirc

apple didn't differentiate them in software

[sinful blade]

Can you send the lookup tool? I’m seeing jus a bunch of random websites for it

[median kelp]

https://checkcoverage.apple.com/?locale=en_US this might be it

[proud jackal]

Kill me

[median kelp]

this should give you device information too

[median kelp]

wish granted

[sinful blade]

Dm @median kelp

[icy ore]

Man I swear my new iPhone has a bad WiFi receiver or something because it’s constantly losing signal if I’m watching a video

[pliant berry]

I think at the time the fusion drives were only available as higher end options

[sinful blade]

$200 more

It seems I just have the normal drive

But it is a 2017 model

[pliant berry]

Ouch, that’s a lot

[sinful blade]

$200 for a 256gb ssd for the Fusion Drive

[median kelp]

Fusion drives were known to fail a lot too

the ssd portion would break down because of controller issues

causing hanging as it failed to access cache and restorted to HDD after cache was unreadable

You'd end up with a drive with slower access times than the standard HDD

[royal crow]

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[lone mango]

Yeah ventus cards suck

5060 ti is also worse than everyone else

[blazing nest]

So like done for?

Man I can't find out nun man 😭

[median kelp]

I would not try to fix it yourself. If you have important stuff on there please send to data recovery service

If you don't have a clean room and don't know what you're doing

things like a spec of dust can obliterate your HDD once opened

[blazing nest]

Ohh

But how can you be sure if it's a head crash?

Wouldn't a head crash mean the whole hdd would be undetected?

[pliant berry]

I would think it could be detected as long as the controller isn't damaged but if a head or platter is broken it could make it unreadable

but im no drive expert

[royal crow]

maybe

[sinful blade]

@median kelp is there a reason why it’d be failing to update?
Gets 1/3 of the way then crashes.

[median kelp]

No the controller has a small amount of firmware on it (usually like 32MB) that allows it to communicate

[median kelp]

Beats me tbh

[median kelp]

So it'll detect but not be able to see any properties or anything

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-empty-wallet-full-wallet-rich-gif-10734165437036592206

I’m on my way

[royal crow]

W, W

[blazing nest]

All because of a sudden shutdown during windows' shutdown? 😭

[blazing nest]

Aight, thanks for explaining a bit tho

[blazing nest]

So best is to hand the laptop to a repair shop and wait what they say?

[royal crow]

yeah unfortunately im not great at diagnosing issues

[blazing nest]

Appears neither am I

It's going to be a long talk with my friend 😭

[median kelp]

Yes hard cutting off power to a drive that is spinning has a chance to permanently damage it

[weak cedar]

mustachio HDD

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/mirror-mirror-under-the-gpu-whos-the-fairest-graphics-card-of-them-all

[median kelp]

Okay but in modern era this is kinda dumb

The point of it back in the day is you had these designs with characters on it

Everyone was doing that gamer look

Now it's just modern minimalist

[rancid juniper]

yea

[median kelp]

Companies like yeston that current day versions of the design look

Do it on the back plate now

[nocturne flicker]

Need focusing lens, turn rgb gpu fans into deadly lasers

[blazing nest]

😧 bro nahh

There's no safety option on laptops for this

[median kelp]

It's a quirk of spinning drives themselves not the laptop

There's many reasons we have moved from hard drives

[lone mango]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-x870-motherboard-kills-second-ryzen-7-9800x3d-user-says-he-regrets-trusting-the-brand

[pliant berry]

hmm should I get asrock mobo

[misty sparrow]

prank your friends, give them an asrock mobo

[sinful blade]

@median kelp the mac just turned to Spanish wtf

[pliant berry]

it has decided that you speak spanish now

[honest birch]

Ngl all my customers pcs have been using asrock boards, no problems

I manually set bios values so maybe thats why

[pliant berry]

gets 20 phone calls tomorrow

[honest birch]

Even on old bios no problems

[honest birch]

Nah man even from pcs from over a year ago

[lone mango]

I have no issues so far too

[honest birch]

Asrock boards are very good value, which is why I kept using them

[lone mango]

been like half a year so far

[honest birch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bgm374 next customer build im doing using asus though

[lone mango]

I have a suspicion that they override user inputs

[pliant berry]

I wanted to get one of those asus proart mobos but tbh I think im gonna keep my pc as a simple gaming machine and spend the extra on a mac for productivity

[honest birch]

And why's that

Did you observe something

I haven't had any problems with settings values at all, the board listens, using hwinfo to check

[median kelp]

Sponsored by the evil green owl I guess

[misty sparrow]

that username

💀

[upper rain]

whar username

[misty sparrow]

the username in an image somebody sent

[upper rain]

ah

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/meganleigh-megan-leigh-that-might-not-be-appropriate-might-not-be-appropriate-gif-16652792906951628669

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/_zfN9wnPvU0?si=1WzkYbbExDdSCtNa

[lone mango]

This card is finally back in stock

Took like 4 months

[dusk knot]

not.....bad

waiting for 300 lol

[sinful blade]

I want this one

[sinful blade]

@grand wasp when can I trade in my gpu for this one

[grand wasp]

👀

I'm coming in halfway through this conversation, but don't we do trade ins?
https://www.newegg.com/promotions/nepro/23-1322/index.html?srsltid=AfmBOopCFI9ty2eaOdxraguN6om6lmTY_221unnnB6vQpNnW8wyLc4k-

[lone mango]

perhaps january launch
https://wccftech.com/geforce-rtx-5070-ti-super-and-rtx-5070-super-added-in-seasonic-psu-calculator/

[dusk knot]

my 5080 is now yesterdays news

sad

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-smoking-sadge-pepe-smoking-pepe-sadge-gif-16948267171533269841

[sinful blade]

9060XT doesn’t count:(

[nocturne flicker]

Are you trying to trade in a 9060xt for a 9060xt of a different model?

[alpine rock]

hoping someone can help me I am in need of a new PC but don't have big bucks for a decked out system right now so I wanted to go with a mini pc. So I have been looking around and wanted some things like at least 32gb of ram, usb4 and an occulink port. I found one here but not sure if this is a good deal or if I can find something better for this price? Please send me a direct message because I am not on here much. check it out and let me know if I can do better - https://www.amazon.com/AOOSTAR-GEM12-PRO-8845HS-OCULINK/dp/B0F8BKP9PH?crid=1C4VJ6KMWW1ML&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.kxIX2Bd4MzQGPldB4SDIQzxoE2VzGnuocNAVV1fmD7DE7w7uYatad6ylH_q5nnXnbG5LlPCmr1Uxf1i3WOWBGCzbq0V1pZEqaF_DZOi2EC3E3qOzD8gzKpyFcS1ahidmlULyPtuSsNgAuCrqiXDhT-TQSBKsysHmhhr9fuDLBYmD1Bl79HqjF3mqVqrGN-j2OaBpIuXfCuCJK9zdbFpDYotAy-2Z1xWrOi1ecEiHOSY.RqoL6VWcfMWOxbCoYTgcyLc142FtwCD7n3udqaciloY&dib_tag=se&keywords=mini%2Bpc%2Bwith%2Boculink&qid=1759872128&sprefix=mini%2Bpc%2Bwith%2Bocculink%2Caps%2C106&sr=8-12&th=1

[topaz crown]

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[pseudo patrol]

yeah my tv is cooked lol

pixels dying out

losing frame rate

[lone mango]

Longest lasting modern tv

[lone mango]

No just overclock it

[dusk knot]

I did

Seems 375 to the core is stable