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hoary zodiac
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2070 super

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No the stupid inflated prices after that generation

median kelp
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Just a reminder 3070 was $499 and was within 5% of a 2080Ti ($1200 GPU)

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Nvidia can try when they want to

olive plaza
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Yes and no

median kelp
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Got threatened by AMD and decided to bury them during 30 series. Bye bye AMD

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Never recovered

opaque sedge
# hoary zodiac 2070 super

oh nah i was talking abt the fact i'm surprise it only got up to an extra 100 since the 2070s given recent pricing and performance gain trends for graphics cards

sinful blade
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I’d trade my 9060xt 16GB for a 5060ti 16GB

opaque sedge
median kelp
olive plaza
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@median kelp I like going down memory lane with this stuff. So when the RTX 2070 launched for 499 it was between the speed of a 1080 and a 1080ti. 1080ti had MSRP of 699. So for 499 it wasn't "atrocious."

median kelp
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No offense to anyone

median kelp
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The 1070 was faster than the 980Ti, had more vram, and had a $379 MSRP

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Don't forget that

opaque sedge
hoary zodiac
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Mostly because of the RDNA1 driver shenanigans

olive plaza
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nvidia did play on the fact that 5700XT's drivers were

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basically the worst thing

hoary zodiac
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Value diminished a bit over time

median kelp
sinful blade
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But now the 5700xt outpaces the 1080ti

hoary zodiac
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But the $100 nvidia tax was worth it

sinful blade
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By a good bit

hoary zodiac
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It actually had RT so

median kelp
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20 series was the worst value cards at that point since the GTX 400 series

olive plaza
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20 series did have bad value at launch but it wasn't from the performance. Compared to recent uplift? It was amazing

median kelp
opaque sedge
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how big was the performance bump to 30 series?

median kelp
opaque sedge
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ik 40 series had a big one

hoary zodiac
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Now nvidia just raises the prices without improving performance

median kelp
hoary zodiac
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RTX 4060

olive plaza
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The value issue with 20 series was they pushed ray tracing as an amazing new technology. And none of the cards could run proper RT smoothly

sinful blade
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@olive plaza if you got any 5060ti’s to send to me, I’ll give you my 9060xt 16GB

opaque sedge
olive plaza
median kelp
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It was only 15% faster at most than the 3080

elfin mural
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yes but that's because cuda count was increased

sinful blade
olive plaza
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That wasn't the agreement Roomba

median kelp
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And like 5% over the 3080Ti

opaque sedge
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oh right marginal compared to 3080ti

elfin mural
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3080ti or so perf

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it's not that bad

elfin mural
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5070 however..

olive plaza
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The agreement is "Do you have a 5060TI? If you have a 5060TI, I will give you my 9060XT 16GB"

elfin mural
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is a different matter

median kelp
olive plaza
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and I agree to that 100%

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I will give you my shipping address now

sinful blade
median kelp
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And to make 90 series a massive class jump, they cut the 4080 to HALF the cuda cores of the 90 series

olive plaza
opaque sedge
hoary zodiac
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5090 is even more of a scam

elfin mural
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5090 isn't a scam

median kelp
hoary zodiac
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MSRP is overpriced, actual price is even more of a scam

elfin mural
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it's just not something everyone need

median kelp
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The 5080 pisses me off

sinful blade
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I want a 5060ti 16GB, a 3080ti, or a 4070 to trade with this card
I need nvidia encoding

hoary zodiac
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Imo the msrp itself is overpriced

median kelp
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The 5080 lost to 25% of games to the 4080 Super

elfin mural
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i'd say 1.6k msrp is actually not bad

olive plaza
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lmao Tulip the moment you said "2070 was bad because it didn't beat the previous flagship" the first thing that came to mind was 5080

elfin mural
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remember inflation

hoary zodiac
olive plaza
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the fact 5080 is slower than a 4090 is atrocious

median kelp
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Yeah

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For reference

elfin mural
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msrp is 1.6k

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but real prices are double that

hoary zodiac
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That's 4090 msrp

opaque sedge
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5090 msrp is 20 hundies

hoary zodiac
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5090 msrp is 2k

median kelp
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The 1060 has the same % of cuda cores as the 1080ti that the 5080 has of the 5090

elfin mural
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oh wait it's 2k

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bleh

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not that good

hoary zodiac
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If it was 1.6k I'd be fine with it

elfin mural
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but tolerable

olive plaza
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5090 Founders cards MSRP was 2K

median kelp
olive plaza
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I don't think any of the aftermarket cards launched with a 2K MSRP

opaque sedge
elfin mural
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it's just that nvidia doesn't give a flying heck about gamers anymore

hoary zodiac
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$400 markup is outrageous

median kelp
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Well besides that one PNY one?

elfin mural
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that's expected since ai is such a huge market rn

olive plaza
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They've started to become more readily available yeah

median kelp
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That one PNY 5090 has been in stock at $2000 at microcenter for 4 weeks

elfin mural
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interesting

hoary zodiac
olive plaza
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The 5090 is going to suffer a similar fate to the PS5

median kelp
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My local microcenter has 15 of them in stock

hoary zodiac
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That's the funny thing

elfin mural
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im not talking about 5090

opaque sedge
elfin mural
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im talking about nvidia's HPC ai market

hoary zodiac
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Oh

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I see now

opaque sedge
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im kidding btw

median kelp
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Apparently that card runs vram at 105° (max)

elfin mural
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ye

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that's where the money is

hoary zodiac
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Yeah that's one of the reasons why Blackwell was botched

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All the silicon went to AI

olive plaza
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PS5 and 5090 both had the same issue -
They were both COMPLETELY unobtainable for a very large percentage of their relevant product lifespan, and people lost interest

median kelp
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To be fair my 5090 FE runs the memory at 98° and I'm like

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?????

elfin mural
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real

opaque sedge
hoary zodiac
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Wtf

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Ps5 will have games?

median kelp
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I have it undervolted to 900MV at 2850mhz and it still pulls 430 watts max load it's insanely power hungry

median kelp
hoary zodiac
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Are they exclusively on the ps5 tho

opaque sedge
median kelp
olive plaza
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the only exclusives I still know of are that one DualSense techdemo game AstroBot

median kelp
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You shouldn't need consoles for exclusives anyways

opaque sedge
hoary zodiac
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Yeah that's where the meme comes from

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Ps5 has no games

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Same with xbox

median kelp
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Tbh I play my PS5 pro more than my PC

olive plaza
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amazing

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Do you do anything with your 5090 then

median kelp
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Some days I am so tired from work I just want to sit on my couch and easily get into a game

opaque sedge
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oh right they have the demon souls remake and getting ghost of yotei soon too

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but not a significant amt of exlusives

median kelp
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Maybe 4-5 days a week

olive plaza
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That's so crazy to me

median kelp
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Tech is more of a hobby than like anything else

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I'm in I.T. I just really like the field and obsess over it

olive plaza
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I know not everyone is like me. But I could never drop 2K or more on a GPU that I don't use every single day

hoary zodiac
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In defense of the PS5

median kelp
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Tbh I could get by with just my 5070 laptop if I got rid of my desktop

hoary zodiac
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Consoles have had better value proposition for certain parts of the year

opaque sedge
median kelp
hoary zodiac
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With these stupid gpu prices

median kelp
opaque sedge
median kelp
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There is no chance AI is taking over setting up networks for businesses

hoary zodiac
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I'd rather spend a couple hundreds on a whole machine

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And not just a gpu

median kelp
olive plaza
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cisco and network+ likely

median kelp
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You can just get away with some couple big certs and work your way up

elfin mural
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game prices tho boeing

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and also.. the forced subscription to use online services

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eugh

opaque sedge
hoary zodiac
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xbox + game pass then

median kelp
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Start with comptia network+ tbh if you're looking at getting into it

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It by far taught me the most for what I'm doing

elfin mural
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xbox on gamepass is decent enough ig

olive plaza
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I would take courses for network+ but if network+ is the same as A+, it requires renewal every few years

median kelp
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It taught me even more than my bachelor's for what I'm doing

olive plaza
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So unless you're ready to jump into the field

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within a year or two

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I would hold off on taking the actual exam until you're ready to job hunt

opaque sedge
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would a cybersec degree be relevant?

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thinking of studying in that?

median kelp
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Yeah and the full class (to teach you) + exam I would say is a 6 month endeavor (3 if you push yourself)

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And will cost you at least a grand start to finish

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That's if you don't really have any like background

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If you have decent intuition you could probably do it in 2 but you better be ready to grind

median kelp
opaque sedge
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icic this is quite informative ngl compared parsing thru results on google

median kelp
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I believe within 5 years most intro level cyber security positions will be replaced with AI and you'll just have your high level techs working with it

olive plaza
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I've been considering moving into network administration. like studying and getting my certification and stuff. I've basically hit a ceiling with my current position

median kelp
opaque sedge
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what are entry level positions for net admin?

olive plaza
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I've been A+ since 2006

median kelp
opaque sedge
olive plaza
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I'm grandfathered into having a non-renewal A+ from comptia

olive plaza
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I'm 38

median kelp
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I didn't even know they had non renewal-

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I'm 25 LOL

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Bro non renewal is crazy

olive plaza
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They moved to a renewal system around 2008 I believe

opaque sedge
median kelp
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Yeah I didn't even know they ever had non renewal

olive plaza
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2010 to 2011 was the transition. If you got certified before December 31 2010

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then it doesn't expire ever

median kelp
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They had an open position and I learned a lot very very quickly

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I did 3 certs in 6 months and honestly was going to go insane

olive plaza
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Tulip my Newegg account is almost as old as you are

median kelp
hoary zodiac
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loyal customer?

opaque sedge
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i should've locked in during hs...

median kelp
rancid juniper
median kelp
opaque sedge
rancid juniper
median kelp
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But they were offering over double what I was making as a tier 2 for entry net admin

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I saw dollar signs I ain't gonna lie

rancid juniper
median kelp
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Google IT certification is $59 a month at your own pace

olive plaza
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I'm currently making 25/hr plus about $1000-1500 commission a month depending on sales. I think I'd make a lot more doing net admin

median kelp
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And if you push they got an accelerated 3 month timetable

rancid juniper
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Since im in an IT major my goal is to be a SysAdmin or something around that

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(because yes it has good pay i think)

median kelp
opaque sedge
rancid juniper
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what is that job?

hoary zodiac
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Is that good or bad

olive plaza
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Yeah 37.50 is more than I make by a chunk

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even with a good commission month

opaque sedge
rancid juniper
median kelp
hoary zodiac
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Oh wait that's $57 AUD

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Wtf

opaque sedge
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goddamn now im seeing dolla signs

median kelp
hoary zodiac
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I wonder what my entry salary would be

rancid juniper
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500 cigarettes

median kelp
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I make more now

lone mango
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Bro even micro center aint taking me

hoary zodiac
opaque sedge
median kelp
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I work for a warehousing company on their net admin team

rancid juniper
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Im guessing bro is in CS

median kelp
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I did 2 minors instead of a major/concentration

hoary zodiac
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I'm like an imposter listening to this convo

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Going through my bachelor's rn

median kelp
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I did data science (don't use, worthless with AI) and "support" (I actually used their a help desk agent)

olive plaza
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So obviously Network+ and CCNA, what's the third cert

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that's the question lol

rancid juniper
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CompTIA?

olive plaza
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or is the third just A+

hoary zodiac
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Hmm

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I might look into IT certs tbh

olive plaza
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I mean Network+ is CompTIA as well

hoary zodiac
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They might actually line up with my career

median kelp
lone mango
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I can get 5 aws certs for the price of a+

median kelp
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I needed azure because my company uses it

opaque sedge
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so what specific specialty u go into in IT is dependent on certs?

olive plaza
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Oh that makes sense

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good ol microshaft

opaque sedge
rancid juniper
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IT = keep up with the times

hoary zodiac
median kelp
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I heard they changed up azure certification recently

olive plaza
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Now you need minimum 5K gamerscore

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on xbox

opaque sedge
hoary zodiac
median kelp
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They're redoing a lot of Microsoft certified

opaque sedge
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i genuinely wanted to get into engineering ngl

lone mango
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What are they changing

opaque sedge
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didnt attempt it tho, home situation was bad, and in my eyes didnt feel like i had enough to work with to get through it

median kelp
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I heard they're overhauling the entire Microsoft certified

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Microsoft is a pain in the butt for certs

olive plaza
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hehe you think Microsoft is bad

rancid juniper
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Micromid

hoary zodiac
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I'm kinda at a crossroads

olive plaza
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wait until you need to get an Apple certification

hoary zodiac
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It's either going to be computer engineering or software engineering

opaque sedge
olive plaza
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Which is now required to work for Micro Center's service department

lone mango
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Although I have not taken a cert with them yet

median kelp
rancid juniper
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I feel like one of yall have taken discrete math

hoary zodiac
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I think CE is more worth it in the long run because if I need the software stuff I can just do a cert

median kelp
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Nothing at my current company uses anything apple

rancid juniper
median kelp
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Like no thank you

rancid juniper
olive plaza
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Not even any company phones?

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That's amazing

median kelp
olive plaza
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beautiful

median kelp
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Yeah deal with Samsung

olive plaza
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that's it I'm applying

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lmao

lone mango
median kelp
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Procurement price was $340 a phone (it was this year after s25 came out)

median kelp
hoary zodiac
rancid juniper
olive plaza
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S24 is the first year Samsung committed to a 7 year update cycle too for base level security

opaque sedge
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guys does green tea have smth else other than caffeine? feeling more alert than when im on coffee

median kelp
hoary zodiac
median kelp
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Coworker told me they got all the phones up and running in 2 days for over 100 devices

hoary zodiac
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Or was that peppermint

olive plaza
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green tea has more caffeine than black

rancid juniper
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what

hoary zodiac
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Yeah I was thinking peppermint

olive plaza
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and when I say green tea I'm talking about actual loose leaf green tea, not the bottled and canned crap

opaque sedge
median kelp
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$340 a phone is also insane bulk price for a one year old model

olive plaza
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yeah that's legitimately nothing

median kelp
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And it supports dual sim for people with multiple roles too

olive plaza
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I'm on an S24+, my carrier was doing a trade-in deal when it launched

opaque sedge
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dunno if teabags count

median kelp
olive plaza
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$700 trade-in bonus on any qualifying phone from Samsung. And I happened to have an S10+ kicking around so I traded that towards it

median kelp
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I paid $300 for my phone

median kelp
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Then I pay US mobile $210 a year for unlimited data on Verizon it's beautiful

olive plaza
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I paid approx $500 for mine but I have the 512

opaque sedge
median kelp
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I have the 512 as well, 256 ain't enough if there's no SD card tray

hoary zodiac
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I'd be complaining a lot more if I was in 3rd

olive plaza
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also went with the plus instead of Ultra simply because they're internally identical aside from the lack of S pen and the main camera is like 50MP instead of 200MP

opaque sedge
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i should sleep ngl almost 2am

olive plaza
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It's the first year the Plus sways more Ultra than base

opaque sedge
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thanks a lot for the info and tips @median kelp

olive plaza
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I'm not an S pen enjoyer

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my wife is using an S23 Ultra though

median kelp
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The most

olive plaza
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that's funny

median kelp
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Like remote camera button or to control presentations

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Then they got rid of the Bluetooth on the s25u

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I'm never upgrading

olive plaza
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That's what my wife said when they stopped making the Note

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and then eventually security updates ended

median kelp
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If you're connected to a display doing power point, you can press the button and it goes to next slide

rancid juniper
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that moment when tomorrow is the last day to complete some programming assignments and you haven't started yet

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🗿

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gotta lock in

hoary zodiac
median kelp
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Takes 2 hours, works super fast, and you're like " oh okay nice"

olive plaza
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Oh yeah I need to get the laundry into the dryer

median kelp
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Or you're trouble shooting for 20 hours straight

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Binging monster energy drinks

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And crying

rancid juniper
olive plaza
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Bingeing*

rancid juniper
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😭

median kelp
copper fable
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OK so...

rancid juniper
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Bing and yahoo

olive plaza
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Binging is using the microsoft search engine LMAO

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I'm binging that

rancid juniper
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new?

copper fable
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I have an update regarding the full refund not that the guys who saw my original message are still here

median kelp
rancid juniper
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what refund?

hoary zodiac
median kelp
olive plaza
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hang on lemme ask Jeeves

copper fable
hoary zodiac
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Jeeves nuts

copper fable
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Because Amazon was at fault

median kelp
rancid juniper
olive plaza
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I'm just old enough to know the early internet tbh

median kelp
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My dads main email is still an aol email

copper fable
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And the best part is that I can keep the item once it arrives lol

olive plaza
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of course it is

olive plaza
rancid juniper
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why nothing this good happens to me

median kelp
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He says he keeps it because it's hilarious to see reactions

hoary zodiac
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Java, Indonesia

copper fable
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I'm kidding I'm kidding

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Not his job

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Probably

rancid juniper
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👀

olive plaza
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So what's the back story

rancid juniper
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was it a gpu?

copper fable
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But we got to an agreement that I would get a full refund if it won't arrive by the original estimated day of the delivery which was in October

olive plaza
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if you share your story I'll tell you how I got a free GPU during the shortages in 2021

copper fable
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But after some talking

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I managed to lower it down to 2 days

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And now they said they will just refund me regardless

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I have all in writing

hoary zodiac
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Wtf

rancid juniper
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long ass delivery

copper fable
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It really was a huge inconvenience

hoary zodiac
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Nat 20 speech roll

copper fable
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Now 15

olive plaza
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I'm assuming this isn't a sold & shipped by Amazon item

copper fable
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The agent somehow just reset my order

rancid juniper
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😏

median kelp
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I got refunded for a CPU I bought off of AliExpress (ryzen 7 4700GE) because it didn't arrive

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But then 4 months later out of no where

copper fable
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And my gift card balance that was applied to the order was just gone

median kelp
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This package with literally 9 different shipping labels showed up

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Had been redirected so many times

hoary zodiac
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I got 2133MHz ram instead of 2400 and I didn't even bother to return it

copper fable
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In short it was just a pain to deal with

copper fable
olive plaza
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@copper fable but what's the item

rancid juniper
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this reminds me of that one dude that bought a used xbox 360 (i think) and it arrived a year later, bro didn't notice until it reached his doorstep

copper fable
olive plaza
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and who's the actual seller

copper fable
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I can't say which one though

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But a very good one

rancid juniper
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$800 monitor

copper fable
olive plaza
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oh that shit is gonna arrive broken as hell

copper fable
rancid juniper
copper fable
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Doesn't mean it's exactly 800$

hoary zodiac
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Better be less

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Better be a really good monitor

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4K OLED 240Hz

copper fable
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But anyway, it is a very good monitor

olive plaza
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I ordered a gaming monitor for my wife on Amazon a few months ago because it came with a free key to Monster Hunter Wilds

median kelp
copper fable
hoary zodiac
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28" or something

copper fable
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But very close to that

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Very

olive plaza
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They legit shipped it in its original box with no extra packaging

hoary zodiac
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Ultrawide?

copper fable
hoary zodiac
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Ok you know what that's fair

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Ultrawides are based

olive plaza
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Since @copper fable isn't giving a full story, I'll give you guys one and it'll be super enjoyable

lone mango
copper fable
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I mean I was sitting in front of a 2k monitor and I could barely tell the difference

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And I have a 4K monitor

rancid juniper
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because 2K visuals are goated

copper fable
hoary zodiac
north crescent
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I havent gotten many free things. Got a free upgrade from 970 to 1070 during 2018 gpu shortage cuz prebuilt had defective GPU. Also got free lego mindstorms ev3 computer thingy cuz mine had a defective screen (but is otherwise functional)

copper fable
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It's not just that guys

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You are not going to believe me

median kelp
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Can we talk about how inexpensive monitors are? I bought a 4K 144hz monitor for $800 in 2021 (Samsung Odyssey 28"), which was a super good value at the time for high refresh rate 4K panel. Same monitor is often on sale for $300 now just 4 years later Vappy_cry

copper fable
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I can buy any NVME drive

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And I mean any

hoary zodiac
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I have a $40 monitor

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Portable monitor

copper fable
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For free... again amazon's fault

hoary zodiac
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Wtf

rancid juniper
hoary zodiac
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I used welfare money to buy a 5700XT

olive plaza
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During GPU shortages I ordered a Radeon VII on eBay because it was supposedly around the same performance as RTX 2080 but with more VRAM.
It arrived and I wasn't that impressed. So I opened a return, eBay generated a return label, I sent it back.
The guy who sold it to me had moved, and he hadn't updated his address with eBay. So it went to his old place. Signature required, since it was an expensive GPU. They didn't sign for it, they marked it return to sender. I got the GPU back.
I contact eBay and they tell me the situation with the address, and say it's up to the seller to issue me a new label at his expense. He doesn't. I get refunded.

copper fable
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I'm like gosh it's so annoying they are making mistakes but at the same time: keep making mistakes

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Because I profit from it

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Hahaha

hoary zodiac
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I mean free is free

copper fable
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I can literally buy a 8TB nvme

rancid juniper
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GPU shortage was a wild time, and probably the funniest too

copper fable
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I have that promise in writing as well

rancid juniper
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so many bad decisions were made

median kelp
rancid juniper
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HBM2 AH CARD

olive plaza
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After I got refunded I sold it on eBay for over $1000 because shortages

copper fable
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But well I like amazon

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Even if they wouldn't be giving me free stuff

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Their customers service is so good

olive plaza
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I had started a regular auction for like $99 with no reserve and it got bid up to over a grand

median kelp
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Amazon be jank sometimes. If Newegg shipped faster it would be my preferred over Amazon because I've never had an issue with Newegg

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But I am addicted to 1 day shipping

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Sometimes 5 hour shipping

north crescent
hoary zodiac
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Radeon VII had a niche

rancid juniper
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I bought more items on ebay than amazon/newegg and never had any issues yet

hoary zodiac
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Wasn't a very good one

median kelp
#

I'm really close to Amazon warehouses so sometimes it's same day shipping

olive plaza
#

Oh then there was one time

copper fable
median kelp
#

Even though I'm rural GA

copper fable
#

Because they are the goat when it comes to compensations

#

From my experience at least

median kelp
olive plaza
#

I sent in a Ryzen 7 3700X to AMD for RMA because it kept blue screening and they sent me two back brand new complete with the Wraith Prism coolers

copper fable
#

I've mastered it

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You can too

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Hahaha

median kelp
hoary zodiac
#

Gunboat diplomacy

copper fable
nocturne flicker
# rancid juniper

That scene was probably the dumbest bit of the whole movie. And that movie had a ton of problems

hoary zodiac
#

I mean who's going to look worse here

median kelp
#

Intel tried telling me to go through microcenter because it was a "bundled product"

copper fable
#

I'm just letting them know bout my issues and most of the time I profit from it

hoary zodiac
#

The consumer or the multi million dollar corporation

median kelp
#

Microcenter said that only applies if they sell it in a computer

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Sent me back to intel

copper fable
#

For example even if my item is partially defective they would give me a full refund most of the time

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So that's a profit

median kelp
#

Intel is insistent

rancid juniper
#

Intel after seeing 14nm again:

median kelp
#

I get a signed letter from the person at my microcenter explaining

hoary zodiac
#

14nm++++++++++++

rancid juniper
lone mango
#

for $180

hoary zodiac
#

9980XE

median kelp
#

Only then does Intel take my RMA for my dying 13700K (launch batch with clear degradation) after 2 months

hoary zodiac
#

Skylake

lone mango
#

nutty price

median kelp
#

And takes 3 weeks to ship another processor

rancid juniper
#

nah im crying myself to sleep cya

lone mango
median kelp
#

They were insistent I had to go through microcenter because I bought a motherboard CPU ram combo

copper fable
lone mango
#

but overdrive fixes it

copper fable
#

Monitors have gotten cheaper these days

lone mango
#

it can overdrive to level two with no inverse ghosting

rancid juniper
lone mango
copper fable
#

Especially OLED/QD OLEDS compared to how they used to cost

rancid juniper
copper fable
rancid juniper
#

imma still sleep

#

cya 4 real

median kelp
# olive plaza that's dumb

That literally only applies for pre built where the CPU is sold in tray versus in box so idk what Intel was on about

lone mango
#

i still think it will last though

median kelp
#

The bundle I got literally had a boxed unit

olive plaza
#

You guys know what the biggest problem is with warrranties, is that in the US, they can deny you warranty if you don't have an original invoice

copper fable
#

Well the funniest part about the monitor is that they've told me that monitor is non returnable so if it arrives and it's defective or damaged, I can get a full refund without returning the item

hoary zodiac
#

Goes with a lot of places in the world too

#

Greed is a constant

olive plaza
#

So if you receive an item as a gift, companies are allowed to just tell you no

copper fable
#

So I kinda pray that it will arrive a bit damaged but functional hahaha

median kelp
olive plaza
#

Sony for instance, if you have a PS5 that you got as a gift for your birthday literally last week, and stops turning on

#

they will tell you to send it in and then they will charge you to get it back

copper fable
#

But I shouldn't complain either way

hoary zodiac
#

Meanwhile at HP:

copper fable
#

They've done more than I ever thought would be possible

median kelp
#

So if you buy something and lose possession of it (gifting or resale) they are allowed to have it non transferrable

lone mango
#

then worranty works

median kelp
#

I actually ran into this with a second hand zotac GPU

olive plaza
#

Yeah it's a scam

nocturne flicker
median kelp
#

It was 6 months old, vram died, but the seller on Facebook marketplace sent me the original receipt/invoice

olive plaza
#

Gigabyte pulled the biggest scam on me though.

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out of all the companies I've sent an RMA in for

copper fable
lone mango
olive plaza
#

Gigabyte is the worst

copper fable
#

But of course I will send them proof regardless

median kelp
#

They told me even though the warranty was active, the original buyer had to be the one to request for it, even if I had proof I purchased it from them

copper fable
#

If that ever happens

hoary zodiac
#

Asus RMA:

lone mango
#

although it is an op unit i should be good even if i have no warranty

lone mango
olive plaza
#

I sent a Socket AM4 motherboard to Gigabyte for RMA because one of the memory channels died.
Their agent took apart the AM4 socket, but was not careful, and broke some of the plastic on it.
They claimed it was like that, and offered an out of warranty repair for $100. The board was only like 80 bucks to begin with

copper fable
#

Should I just accept the refund and save the money or use it to buy something else?

olive plaza
#

Lesson learned I need to document the condition of anything I send in for RMA

hoary zodiac
#

wtf

copper fable
#

Cause I can techincally get a 5080

median kelp
copper fable
#

Because the super one isn't coming anytime soon

median kelp
#

Is it for MSRP?

copper fable
olive plaza
#

5080's are available at MSRP all day rn

copper fable
#

The 5080 is

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The asus prime one

median kelp
#

Oh are they now?

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A few weeks ago they were not

olive plaza
#

Yeah nobody wants a 5080

median kelp
#

They were still at $1200

copper fable
median kelp
#

And for $1200 why wouldn't you get a 5070ti

copper fable
#

I'm seeing it now

median kelp
#

I don't like the coolers on the primes

olive plaza
#

What size PSU do you have @copper fable

copper fable
median kelp
#

Zotac solid line is better than Asus prime

copper fable
hoary zodiac
#

Prime = Cheap

copper fable
#

Not sure if that's actually good for it or not

olive plaza
median kelp
#

Zotac solid is the best MSRP line IMO

copper fable
median kelp
#

Is the MSRP solid down to $999 as well?

copper fable
#

I don't remembe

lone mango
copper fable
#

r

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Bronze

olive plaza
#

CX750 is trash tier

copper fable
#

Not that good

copper fable
#

Sadly

lone mango
#

cooked

olive plaza
#

If you're gonna spend the money for a 5080 then spend the money on a PSU that won't explode

lone mango
#

double cooked

copper fable
#

And it will probably crash more often

north crescent
olive plaza
olive plaza
#

Well that's a link if I ever saw one

lone mango
#

shortest newegg link

copper fable
#

Just to be futureproof

median kelp
#

The zotac solid better than the Asus prime for an MSRP card

olive plaza
#

@copper fable what's your CPU

median kelp
#

Same price

lone mango
copper fable
#

Lian Li EDGE1200W
It's gold

copper fable
#

Need to get that upgraded as well

#

Basically a whole new pc

#

🥲

olive plaza
#

is your motherboard a B550 or X570 chipset?

#

or is it below that

copper fable
#

Cause then I'll need ram

copper fable
olive plaza
#

man you lucked out alright

copper fable
#

I will actually just buy a new pc because I want this one for hackintoshing

#

Using the RX 6800XT

olive plaza
#

With a B550 chipset and 5800X you still get PCIe4.0

median kelp
#

I got a thermaltake tough power GF A3 1200 Watt for $105 on sale

copper fable
median kelp
#

That's my current PSU for my 5090

copper fable
#

So I'll have to get a new pc

lone mango
median kelp
#

I know the GF A3 is only a B rated PSU but for $105 I couldn't resist

lone mango
#

eventually it will be mac silicon only for future versions

median kelp
#

1200 watts is beautiful

#

For that price

lone mango
#

think its like late next year or just some time next year

olive plaza
#

Rosewill has some solid PSUs

copper fable
#

And it will last for at least 5 years

#

It's good enough

lone mango
copper fable
#

Anyone wants to choose the parts for me?

lone mango
#

but one day it will be no more

#

forced to spend $300 on memory upgrade

copper fable
#

RTX 5080 Ryzen 7 7800X3D/9800X3D

olive plaza
copper fable
#

But I guess I can try building it myself

olive plaza
#

and never installed a motherboard into a case

copper fable
#

Shouldn't be that hard right

olive plaza
#

lol

copper fable
olive plaza
#

Up to you

#

I build PCs professionally

copper fable
#

But you know at least I know how to put a pcie expansion card like a capture card hahaha

#

Kidding though, it's really easy

median kelp
olive plaza
#

As long as you're in the US I can build something for you

#

oh cable management

lone mango
#

I knew i was gonna see a plug

median kelp
#

I've built maybe 60 or so computers over the years but like my cable management is YIKES

olive plaza
#

lemme just

copper fable
#

That's how I got 2.5Gbps ethernet by installing a pcie card

lone mango
copper fable
lone mango
#

forced to manage

copper fable
#

But again I can just use amazon

median kelp
copper fable
#

For buying the parts

copper fable
olive plaza
copper fable
#

I mean I don't pay for the internet

copper fable
median kelp
#

I've never felt bottlenecked by 1gb/s

median kelp
#

Or even anything over 500mb/s

copper fable
median kelp
#

Okay even at 1200 down that we get from att

lone mango
copper fable
#

Oh and by the way, how much do you pay for unlimited data plans in the states?

lone mango
#

and i thought 500 was fast

copper fable
#

Mobile data

lone mango
#

now we have 1.2 gig but i get like 600 max in my room

median kelp
#

A 90GB game takes 10 minutes

copper fable
median kelp
#

Like literally I go make me a drink and it's done

copper fable
median kelp
#

Why would you need faster than that tbh

lone mango
#

might even go as far to say pricing can be hyper local like housing

lone mango
copper fable
#

I pay like 11.96$ for a 5G 10,000GBs a month

lone mango
#

500 down xfinity is like 80 per month unless you lock in a plan

#

then is cheaper

copper fable
#

It's called "unlimited" but it is actually capped to 10,000 GBs a month

#

But who even reach that amount in a month lolL

elfin mural
#

not me definitely

lone mango
#

for example we have a plan for $80 a month for 1.2 gig

elfin mural
#

i use like 2tb at most in a month

copper fable
lone mango
#

but thats the same price as no plan 500

lone mango
copper fable
#

Just so you know we pay like 30$ for 2.5Gbps internet

#

Maybe a bit more

lone mango
copper fable
#

But the upload speed is only 1/10

#

So 250Mbps

copper fable
lone mango
#

then the lowly french pay like 80 for 8 gig up and down

#

if not even a little cheaper than 80

copper fable
#

I mean...

median kelp
#

Att fiber for me is $65 a month for 1200 down 600 up

#

But it's also rural GA

copper fable
#

We do have 10Gbps in here

#

And I think it only costs like 20$ more

#

Not sure

lone mango
copper fable
#

Sorry for saying that hahaha

hoary zodiac
copper fable
#

I'm kidding

lone mango
#

there are so many isps in romania that the prices got ridiculously cheap

#

america nightmare

lone mango
olive plaza
#

@copper fable what country are you in? I'd have to set pcpartpicker to your country to see what parts are actually available there

hoary zodiac
#

I knew a Romanian

#

I ask her what she thought of Hungarians

#

got what I expected

copper fable
#

I didn't know that

olive plaza
#

yeah otherwise it's pointless

#

because I'd be choosing parts that may not be available where you live

lone mango
olive plaza
#

Israel is not currently in the list

hoary zodiac
#

yeah I was about to say

olive plaza
#

if you go to pcpartpicker there's a dropdown at the top right corner for the country

copper fable
hoary zodiac
#

what if you order it from the EU

copper fable
#

In amazon I just ask for shipping refunds but most of the time they have free shipping

hoary zodiac
#

like from Italy or something

#

probably not Italy

#

uhh

#

Germany?

olive plaza
#

I didn't know Amazon offered service to Israel, that's cool

hoary zodiac
#

I mean it'd be more insane if they didn't

#

A prominent mediterranean nation not having amazon

olive plaza
#

wdym. We take a lot for granted here in the States

copper fable
olive plaza
#

And with the current uh

#

the current status of disagreements between different countries in that general area of the world

copper fable
#

But not for everything

olive plaza
#

I don't just assume everything is available everywhere right now

hoary zodiac
#

It's great that everyone in chat is a rational human being and not starting stupid arguments

copper fable
#

And for things we don't I just go to the customers service and they offer a shipping refund

olive plaza
#

But yeah, my expertise in choosing components is limited for other areas of the world

hoary zodiac
#

It's either extremely overpriced

olive plaza
#

If you're going 9800X3D i definitely recommend a Liquid Freezer III liquid cooler if you can get one

hoary zodiac
#

or it doesn't exist

#

unless you're in China

#

in which case it's a mix of both

olive plaza
#

if you can't get that cooler, then a 7800X3D can be cooled with a lot more simple means

copper fable
hoary zodiac
#

well actually it's a mix of

#

stupid cheap, stupid expensive, doesn't exist

copper fable
#

And in a very funny twisted way, it's sometimes cheaper for us than for you as you have taxes and we don't for things that costs like than 75$ (import fees)

hoary zodiac
#

it costs around the same for people to smuggle gpus from the US to china

copper fable
hoary zodiac
#

compared to how much the consumer pays

copper fable
#

But you have same day delivery

olive plaza
#

We get same day delivery on some things

copper fable
#

And everything is basically available

olive plaza
#

but it heavily depends on what part of the US

copper fable
#

You know how many times I wanted to order something and then realized they don't ship to Israel

hoary zodiac
#

honestly I don't care about same day delivery

#

It's like

#

I can wait a week lmao

copper fable
olive plaza
#

as an example, one of my friends lives in a city in Wisconsin. A lot of people live there but it's not one of the really large cities. Think like, 50K people

#

And the items you normally would think would be same-day or next-day delivery

#

he gets 3-day

copper fable
#

Yes because he doesn't have prime

#

Or is it not the case?

olive plaza
#

that's with prime

copper fable
#

Oh

#

Lol

#

Still very good

#

I'll pray for 3 days shipping

#

I only once got a package from amazon within 5 days

#

And I was shocked

#

I've never experienced that before so I felt like I'm privileged hahaha

olive plaza
#

Have you lived in Israel your entire life?

copper fable
#

But yeah it usually takes around 10 - 20 days

copper fable
#

I would have no problem with moving over to your country though

olive plaza
#

Things are very different in different parts of the world

copper fable
#

But that will probably never happen

olive plaza
#

I'm sure there are things you enjoy about Israel that we don't have here

copper fable
#

There is something special about this country, all the holy places and the people.

#

It's different than the rest of the world, don't know how to explain it.

#

But if I had to choose then I'd choose the U.S when it comes to freedom, at least for purchasing whatever I want without being limited hahahaha

lone mango
#

i hit a peak of 780 down now i understand the ax210 love

#

i am far from the router and this is also 5g

copper fable
#

It's just that the VATs make things more expensive, the same gaming monitor that you'd pay 699.99$ for, I would get for 800$+ dollars

#

But that's true for the rest of the world

lone mango
#

if my desk was in its old spot and i had a tri band router i could maybe get close to a gig over here and get full speed over there

#

with 5g i prob could get 1 gig at my old spot

copper fable
lone mango
#

I had mobile data internet and it was not good

copper fable
lone mango
#

Speed varied so much and I had constant nat issues

lone mango
#

But it depends too much

copper fable
#

If you have it tethered to your PC and you don't have WiFi/Ethernet availabe

lone mango
#

Over here at least

#

Oh you mean the phone

copper fable
#

That's what my friend does

#

He doesn't have internet at all so he uses his mobile data

lone mango
#

I was talking about like tmobile home internet

copper fable
lone mango
#

I have used it before

copper fable
#

No I was talking about how mobile data can be a good option if you can't get home internet

lone mango
#

And like web searches

#

yeah

copper fable
#

I mean he gets 150Mbps

#

But he has 5G

#

Right in his home somehow

lone mango
#

Wtf I get like 1 megabit from my phone

#

if tethering

copper fable
#

It can be very bad you know

lone mango
#

Nah I think it is how iphone tethering is

#

But my phones are old so idk how good it is now

copper fable
#

I mean you could just get the cheapest 5G phone available and have basically a replacement to a home internet

lone mango
#

5g on my phone is fast, but the tethering speed is very low

copper fable
#

If your signals are good

#

And you have 5G

copper fable
#

How do you tether it

#

Like with an actual usb cable?

#

I think that's the best way, no?

lone mango
#

Surprisingly it does not matter how I tether it

#

So it has to be the phone

copper fable
#

By the way

#

I'm testing it right now

#

Let's hope I get more than 2Mbps lol

lone mango
#

My older android was faster but still very slow with tethering

elfin mural
#

i have 5g in a decent enough area

copper fable
#

Cause it's using 4G

elfin mural
#

it's not a replacement for home internet at all

#

latency is problematic

#

for real time online gaming

copper fable
#

I'm saying

#

For cases where you can't get home internet

#

At all

elfin mural
#

sadly that's my case

copper fable
#

Yes latency would be bad

elfin mural
#

so im living with 5g

copper fable
#

But still

elfin mural
#

better than nothing tho

#

i gotta say

copper fable
#

OK so in my phone it's like 7.27Mbps

#

Let me tether it

lone mango
elfin mural
#

that sounds like hotspot throttling

elfin mural
#

not the phone itself

copper fable
#

First let's tether it with a usb wifi adapter

lone mango
copper fable
#

Then with a cable

elfin mural
#

like the carrier locks your speed when you tether

lone mango
copper fable
#

OK now it's tethered

#

I'm running the same speed test

#

Oh wow

#

WTF how

#

I'm getting somehow more

#

And latency isn't that bad as I thought it would be

lone mango
#

Still great ping yeah

copper fable
#

That's pretty usable

lone mango
#

It actually is

copper fable
#

And have that in mind

#

That

#

I'm using a usb wifi adapter

#

If that even matters

#

Now let's test it again but this time it will be tethered with usb cable directly

nocturne flicker
copper fable
#

OK WTF

nocturne flicker
#

Bigger number betterer?

copper fable
#

OK I think I know why

nocturne flicker
#

Dunno why my download latency is so high

copper fable
#

The placement of the phone is playing a role in this probably

elfin mural
#

it does, majorly

copper fable
#

But it's only like

#

A meter

elfin mural
#

phones have weak antennas compared to an actual router

copper fable
#

Even less maybe

#

But still that's impressive

#

The previous one I mean lol

#

So you are saying that my wifi adapter is way better than the actual phone's antennas

elfin mural
#

uhh, well

#

in terms of cellular reception?

#

there are a ton of factors

copper fable
#

I mean generally

#

Would you say I better off using a usb wifi adapter?

#

Instead of having the phone itself tethered with a usb cable?

#

USB A TO USB C I mean

north crescent
# lone mango Surprisingly it does not matter how I tether it

You could prolly test LAN speeds with smth like OpenSpeedTest or smth. Been forever since I last looked at tethering, but I think when I last looked at it there were speed penalties cuz built in modems dont like working on two network things? Idk, could've been wrong at the time and very much could be wrong now-a-days

#

Pretty sure you can also do reverse tethering through adb commands if on Android. So the PC is the tether host

lone mango
#

Well I only use it when it is 100% necessary so it doesn’t really bother me

#

It is very very rare that I would use it

#

If I tethered more often then I would have looked into it

#

In this video, I'm testing the AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D vs the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D with the RTX 4090 24GB in different games like Fortnite, CS 2, Minecraft and Cyberpunk 2077 in 1080p, 1440p and 4K gaming.

The AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D came out in 2024, it has 6 cores with 12 threads, the base frequency is 4.1GHz and the turbo frequency is 4.7GHz. The R5 ...

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R5 way better than I thought

#

Genuinely surprised with that

#

Besides cyberjunk it uses like 50-60w

lone mango
copper fable
#

So an update

#

Another agent decided to not honor the promise of the full refund

#

I just quickly ended the chat and went to a new agent and that one said they'll be giving me a full refund once the order has been delivered

#

Talking about amazon

upper rain
#

most intelligent scammer got fried lmao

icy ore
#

My wife has been fighting a case with eBay trying to get a refund on an Xbox series X that was supposedly in immaculate condition

#

But then we got it in

#

And roach fest

#

So many roaches

#

That they’d peed on every circuit board and everything was all corroded, didn’t even work when we got it

#

Quite literally tore the whole thing apart and cleaned it with alcohol and had to scrub the hell out of it

opaque sedge
tranquil pebble
# upper rain

These companies tend to hate scammers lol. I had Amazon once email me back from a support request to tell me they yeeted a scammer that I reported lol.

icy ore
tranquil pebble
#

Drunk fb market posting

white belfry
#

Bro i straught up bought a pc for it to shut off and never work again

#

6 hrs in

#

Lmfao

elfin mural
#

well

#

that's why returns and warranties exists

#

time to use it now

white belfry
#

I got it Saturday n it stopped working Saturday

white belfry
#

😭😭

elfin mural
#

that's rather unfortunate tho

white belfry
#

Almost started crying hopefully can get a different one

unreal trail
arctic lily
#

bruh

olive plaza
white belfry
#

Newegg

#

Abs pc

craggy shoal
#

Newegg

#

Abs pc

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(I didn't scroll up)

opaque sedge
#

Oh god…

craggy shoal
#

Opportunity to socialize? I'm single now and my friends are always busy. Yeah give me that opportunity pleaseeee

#

I should finish my bachelors degree at the college I work at (I think they'd give me like six free credit hours and I'd also get scholarships lol. I could probably pay out of pocket maybe like $250-$400)

#

SYBAU