general-chat

[wise wigeon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/s/R8bKAfo7wW

It begins

The first 9070xt has been claimed

[nocturne flicker]

12VHFRPWR needs more characters to the abbreviation

And then we can make an abbreviation for the abbreviation

[wise wigeon]

Instead of 12 use TWVE

Or TWLVE so it’s only missing one letter

TWLVEHFRPWR

[lone mango]

Nah a sapphire failed a long time ago

Few months ago

[wise wigeon]

Oh really

[lone mango]

Yeah this connector is just ass

That card at max uses a little over half of what it is rated for and it still burns

[wise wigeon]

To be fair the nitro is push to its limits

And even my default profile pulse hits 330

I would not be surprised if the nitro plus pulls more than most 5080s

Considering your average 9070xt pulls like 100w more than many 5070 ti

Which is like whatever from a power stand point for me it’s just annoying that the fans start kicking

[lone mango]

Oops nitro can go to 385

I thought they were all locked to 330

[wise wigeon]

I mean 330 is without giving it extra pl juice

Think most cards give you an extra 10% if you let it

So that puts a 385 to 423

That nitro card is eating

If I hadn’t got a reasonable enough price on my xt

I prob woulda gone for that ti

I just prefer undervolting on Msi Ngl

[lone mango]

No 385 is the max for it

[wise wigeon]

Like it’s cool you can Ive on the AMD app

[lone mango]

Stock is like 350

[wise wigeon]

Uv*

[lone mango]

Still a lot though

Ngl that makes me like the 9070 more lol

[wise wigeon]

I mean AMD will hit those numbers

Usually Nvidia claims are a lil overshot

Unless you get one of the chillers

Chonkers*

Ngl

I’m so surprised to even see msrp aib 5090s

I’ve been seeing posts about it in sales subs

[icy ore]

Hell I don’t even remember what msrp was supposed to be

$1500? $2000?

[wise wigeon]

2k

Aib was Asus though

And idk

Asus has been the highest markups I feel

So it was a surprise

Man

Remember how a dude bought the ROG bucket

7k of rog products

Just to get that 5090

[lone mango]

Seeing stuff like that annoys me

Such a waste of money

Like yeah its his money but what a waste

[wise wigeon]

I mean if he was building a bunch of PCs good for him I guess

There were like intel and am5 mobos in there

But 5 k over msrp is something

[velvet summit]

okay garmin
video speichern

🗣️

[wise wigeon]

I’m seeing a lot of hats

Did y’all enjoy the beta?

I was pleasantly surprised by the performance without upscaling

[atomic current]

yes, I love beta minecraft

[royal crow]

I see no flaws at all with this argument, yet I hate it

[nocturne flicker]

TWLVVLTHGHFRPWR

[nocturne flicker]

I didn't play the beta. If you install the game and launch it and timeout the request to install the anti-cheat, you could effectively just sit there for 15 minutes and it counted towards the quest

That plus an orbs purchased 3 day Nitro pass and now I get a helmet for ever. Or until they steal it from me with a change in policy

[royal crow]

you ever go out to the far lands

?

[atomic current]

not yet

need to get an alt and autowalk fr

[royal crow]

try to get to 1 billion lol

[nocturne flicker]

Bloomberg nuked the GN smuggling video

[lone mango]

My vram is no longer stable because of high temperatures

Itll be ok until it is at like 85

Then some flickering comes in

[nocturne flicker]

It is on Archive.org though

[lone mango]

Wait what

The one he just made right

[nocturne flicker]

All 24.4gbs

[nocturne flicker]

Yes

[lone mango]

What was the reason

[nocturne flicker]

The 3+ hour documentary

It had a clip from Bloomberg with the President speaking

So they DMCA'd it

[lone mango]

That must mean they had permission to put him on there

Because gn would ask, or should at least

[nocturne flicker]

It was a recording of a press release DJT did. Not exclusive content but basic, public recordings

[misty sparrow]

I played the beta for two hours and liked it

Shotgun was overpowered though even in second weekend

[lone mango]

vram at 86 lmaooo

[nocturne flicker]

Plus documentaries get special exemptions based on how they use and what the type is of the content in question

[lone mango]

[random osprey]

false advertising, time to sue

[atomic current]

true

[north crescent]

Interesting spammer, asking to check the telegram link in their bio while with an empty bio

[atomic current]

based

best spammer

[wet aspen]

Hi

[fair onyx]

Me: "I need to go and decompress babe"

Boyfriend: "Winrar behavior"

I love him so much lmao

[lone mango]

Im really riding the wave here

One day my time will come too

The post I was reading from when I took that screenshot was from 2 months ago and the guy was on the original 65w

This was before they made it 105

[lone mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1374896365448204379/1383461594977009755/34d3ba296a6a658133fdf2b6e3895374.gif?ex=68a92f43&is=68a7ddc3&hm=175eec2ca66183a91ec454d905ef551bafa2df4ac382ab76a5e09e6648eb1fb3&

[elfin mural]

that's foul

[hoary zodiac]

I thought it said water your dog

[lone mango]

same

sleep deprivation moment

[hoary zodiac]

Nah it's a framing thing definitely

If both us can see it

Probably because those three words are almost exactly center framed

[royal crow]

Me asf rn

(It's 1 am

)

[dense locust]

WATER
DOG

[elfin mural]

the gn smuggling documentary got dmca'd by bloomberg

all because steve mentioned the president

[hoary zodiac]

Bloomberg should watch that document

If they really want to stop China from smuggling in gpus

[elfin mural]

i wouldn't be surprised if it's nvidia that's behind this dmca

lol

[hoary zodiac]

If anything it's against US interest to have that taken down

That documentary can shape future policies regarding gpu export band

[hoary zodiac]

How

[elfin mural]

https://youtu.be/TNeVw1FZrSQ

kek

[lone mango]

Undervolt unstable at low loads

Clocks probably go too high

[lone mango]

Forced to increase frame rate cap

[surreal kernel]

legit apple Airpod maxes should I cop for 200?

[lethal jasper]

Go ahead if you got a MacBook just don’t take them to the gym 😭

[surreal kernel]

idk if they legit tho

[lethal jasper]

I’d just buy airpod 4s arent they like 200 bucks for the reg ones

Or older airpods with anc or jbl if you want to gamble

[surreal kernel]

ive got some Samsung buds already

[surreal kernel]

I just bought them for like 170

[lethal jasper]

If you have a macbook and you care about the ecosystem bullshit then go ahead ig

Btw im not hating everything i have is apple except gym earbuds and my xm5s

[surreal kernel]

hmmm

yes theyr dirty they second hand

[surreal kernel]

I dont got a single apple product 💔

[surreal kernel]

hmm

[surreal kernel]

god the Internet is ass here

I hope I dont get muted by the bot for flooding

[lethal jasper]

then no need to get the airpods 💔

[hoary zodiac]

Meanwhile me with my $40 buds

[upper rain]

MIKUBUDS>>>>>

[frigid stag]

used headphones 😬

[hoary zodiac]

It's got an annoying anime voice so yeah close enough

That's my only complaint about these buds really

Otherwise pretty good for $40

[pliant berry]

used headphones isn't the worst thing, depending on what kind of headphones and where you are buying from you might only need a earpad change

[surreal kernel]

what

[surreal kernel]

they my buddies

[frigid stag]

what

[surreal kernel]

I dont see whats wrong with them

[frigid stag]

did you not see the image

[surreal kernel]

they look good expect for the scuffs

[frigid stag]

theyre dirty af

[surreal kernel]

yeah they cleanable tho

[frigid stag]

its gross

[surreal kernel]

ima change earcups

[surreal kernel]

cmon ive drank from the same cup as him we grew up with eachother 💔💔

[frigid stag]

oh its from a friend

[surreal kernel]

yh

[pliant berry]

those are a bit dirty. but ye I've brought prob 2 or 3 headphones used over the years. my friend pretty much exclusively buys used iems which I personally think is more crazy but seems to work for him

[frigid stag]

i thought it was some random offer up

[surreal kernel]

nah

[surreal kernel]

I was into iems too a while ago but they take ages to ship

wanted to get some Truthears

zero blue or whatever theyr called?

[pliant berry]

the chifi ones ye shipping very long

[surreal kernel]

this was suspicious

[pliant berry]

might only check date when signed into the apple id that it is paired with

[surreal kernel]

pretty sure he got them used for like a week from another guy

about the other guy idk if he bought them or stole them

[pliant berry]

hmm

[surreal kernel]

im confused

they seem legit tho

but ive seen pretty good fakes in the market

[pliant berry]

it should be fairly easy to tell from fakes as the fakes often have much cheaper materials, inconsistencies in any seams, gaps, etc. also just by the sound quality and anc

[surreal kernel]

now that I think of it ive got like 5 pairs of audio devices

3 pairs of earbuds and 2 headsets

[surreal kernel]

everything checks out. In ear detection doesn't work tho but maybe its because ive got an android

Because it did work when they were connected to his iPhone

[pliant berry]

sounds about right

[rough zinc]

Airpod pros?

I got the pro 2s and in ear detection works like normal with my S24U

[surreal kernel]

Air pod maxes

[rough zinc]

Ahh

Yeah no clue about those

[surreal kernel]

okay so they legit

[arctic lily]

one of my front fans is sooo loud when i turn on my pc in the morning
and then it quiets down after a minute or two

like real bearing grinding loud

[craggy shoal]

Get a new fan

[atomic current]

my brother's old computer had one of those

phenom II

[craggy shoal]

Man I wasn't around during the Phenom II era

Kinda wish I was lol

[atomic current]

whar

[arctic lily]

i wish i could

[atomic current]

get an old fan that isn't eating sand

[craggy shoal]

Why can't you get a new fan?

They're not expensive at all lol (unless you're buying main brand like Lian Li for some reason)

[atomic current]

alternatively just remove a fan

[craggy shoal]

yeah or that lol

[atomic current]

as in you didn't use them?

[craggy shoal]

I started in the Haswell/"Every budget first-timer uses an FX 8350" era

[atomic current]

ahh

[craggy shoal]

My dad actually bought the parts for me for a 4690K build, but it was more of a PC for him after he ended up keeping it. I ended up building my own FX 8350 build with an RX 480 that killed the motherboard because I forgot to install drivers lol (the GPU would pull too much power from the PCIe slot and it killed the motherboard lmao)

[proud jackal]

[opaque sedge]

Cyberpunk is still insanely demanding 5 years later lol

Started playing again but with a modpack and my cpu bottlenecks my 4070super with crowd density at high

Altho i do have quality upscaling on

But still a 7800x3d still bottlenecking a 4070super even at near 1080p resolution

Insane

[frosty sinew]

CHAT

where get cheap 9070

all 700$

[atomic current]

back alley

[frosty sinew]

on it

wait msrp is 600

ope

[frigid stag]

5070 ti

[frosty sinew]

ew nvidia

also that costs more

[lone ibex]

You misspelled "unoptimized"

Cyberpunk is the new GTA4

[pliant berry]

id say cyberpunk is fairly well optimized. It may bring high end hardware to it's knees but it is still possible to run on very low power hardware

[lone ibex]

Idk, it seems like "I can turn the settings down and still play" is not equal to "It's well optimized"

[pliant berry]

at this point it has really just become a tech demo for nvidia. showcasing tech that you realistically wouldn't play on but just looks cool

[lone ibex]

The fact Cyberpunk was originally made with PS4 and Xbox One level hardware in mind, yet still brings modern hardware to its knees, is insane

Although in my opinion, Immortals: Fenyx Rising was the better game that came out the same day as Cyberpunk

[frigid stag]

?

[pliant berry]

well no but it's reasonable. "standards" for optimization change all the time with hardware. if you disable all the tech demo quality settings that really isn't made for todays hardware then it runs fine enough

[frosty sinew]

p2p is poo

[frigid stag]

for less features

[lone ibex]

True. It can be optimized

I guess it's better that you have the option to turn down a bunch of eye candy and still play, rather than the devs just saying "You have to have a 3080 for this game"

[frigid stag]

it ran so wonky, they refunded ps4 users

[frosty sinew]

40 bucks is 40 bucks

[frigid stag]

gg if youd rather save 40 bucks for 10% slower and less features for off brand gpu

[frosty sinew]

off brand is wild

[frigid stag]

is true

[frosty sinew]

just wait till nvidia drops gamers completely

itll happen

you watch

we mean nothing to them

[frigid stag]

that would be like intel shutting down

[pliant berry]

nah they'll just keep ripping us off

[frigid stag]

so the government will keep subsidizing them

[frosty sinew]

its like 10% of their market lmap

their ai stuff is way more important to them rn

also 5070ti uses that absolutely BONEHEADED connector

[frigid stag]

thats not how any of that works. geforce is a seperate part

[frosty sinew]

i refuse

[frigid stag]

you see the melted 9070xt?

[frosty sinew]

what a stupid idea

[frigid stag]

how many melted 5070 tis

[frosty sinew]

what idiot made that connector

[frigid stag]

0 theres like 1 5080

and 5 5090s

[frosty sinew]

wont buy an amd card with it either lol

its a goofy connector

[frigid stag]

3090 ti never melts

but they changed the connector in later ones

no load balancing or whatever

[frosty sinew]

it shouldnt be that small in the first place

there isnt enough support

[frigid stag]

it worked fine

they decided to change it

[frosty sinew]

you know what else worked fine?

8 pins lol

idk how you can take 2 75w 6 pins, shrink em together, and its now 4x the power limit

lmao

[frigid stag]

3x8 pin was fine for lower end cards

[tranquil pebble]

I would rather 4x8 pin than the abomination connector that I can't be bothered to remember the proper name of

[lone ibex]

I wonder if they ever finished patching it to be not so wonky anymore on PS4

[frigid stag]

original 12v was fine

[frosty sinew]

12VLPWR

that shi aint high power

[frigid stag]

idk but they said ps4 pro was minimum for playable experience at the time

it was straight up crashing, now it probably just runs at 20 fps

[lone ibex]

IIRC the PS4 Pro's APU had a graphics core equivalent to like an RX480

And you can play Cyberpunk on an RX480/580 with greatly reduced settings so I can see it working OK with good patch work

[arctic lily]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JVUveOwU1Ac

[elfin mural]

there are two major limitations with the ps4 pro however

8 gigs of unified memory

hdd storage

cyberpunk will never run well with that setup

[lone ibex]

The 8GB unified memory is more of an issue CPU side than it is GPU side, it's GDDR so it has higher latency but way more throughput.

[elfin mural]

the lack of amount is a limiting factor regardless

no matter how fast the memory might be

[sinful blade]

PERCY MCTINSELBUDS
TINSEL MACHINEEE

[elfin mural]

i had a similar setup to a ps4 pro- minus gpu power

a laptop with 4710HQ and 850M (2GB DDR3 model)

it had 8 gigs of ram and cyberpunk would only crash

or run horribly

once i upgraded it to 12 gigs, it was.. doable

but you'd be burning your eyes in the process with very low internal render res

[lone ibex]

Definitely, an 8GB RX580 will crush the PS4 Pro APU

[elfin mural]

how can it even be accidental??

PR speak i guess

[dusk knot]

How is it a mistake?

[dusk knot]

Lets your yes mean yes, AMD

[idle nexus]

ig since my CPU, board, &/or memory is acting borked maybe I'll settle for this

it POSTs set at 8100-8200 but just sets 8000. odd lol

maybe SCLs will do 6 hmm

[idle nexus]

lol hopefully this will be added to Lossless GPU Scaling in like a week then

[lone mango]

Mesa will copy their homework but change it up

[icy ore]

[idle nexus]

ooo SCLs POSTed 6

[rancid juniper]

and FSR 4 support for RDNA 3 fr

[atomic current]

thank god for ebay

[nocturne flicker]

The government isn't interested in the gaming segment besides the 90 class cards

[frigid stag]

i meant intel

they wont let them fail

[nocturne flicker]

Oh yeah no Intel is going to be propped up no matter what

Even if the government chooses to pull out economic crisis measures and buy 10% of the company despite it not being an economic crisis

And despite not having the authority to do so

[pliant berry]

i don't really know about that. From what I have heard from government they seem to be abandoning intel

[nocturne flicker]

The US gov't has recently said they want to turn the money specifically allocated as grant cash into an equity purchase worth a tenth of the company. Equity purchases are emergency measures used during times of economic crisis to quickly inject money into the business

[lone mango]

Watch it get better on linux after this

That would be funny lol

[nocturne flicker]

'S what the government did during 2008 for car makers and banks.

[lone mango]

[icy ore]

Christ

[nocturne flicker]

Though they did it with money specifically allocated to buy toxic assets and equity, not grant money

[heavy dew]

GIYS

guess what

[misty sparrow]

what

[heavy dew]

I GOT IT

THIS SEXY PIECE OF HARDWARE

[misty sparrow]

cool

2TB SSD will help a lot

[heavy dew]

It’s going in THIS pc

[misty sparrow]

which box is the pc

the gray one?

[nocturne flicker]

Does the Boom Box go boom

[tribal echo]

Anyone able to help me rq? I’m trying to install my motherboard antenna for WiFi but it’s not popping up

[topaz crown]

Hello @tribal echo! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[upper wedge]

Wdym? WiFi showing up or?

[tribal echo]

Not showing up at all

[lone mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304659851678584922/1408164295832768572/VID_20250821_215329_477.mp4?ex=68aa1032&is=68a8beb2&hm=ecf8b83307665be21d7d6f000c6bc8acccdec8cffed7284d967b0367859f6742&

[lone ibex]

You're trying to install the drivers? Or trying to physically install the antenna

If you're trying to install the driver software for the wifi that's built into your motherboard, you'd just need to google the motherboard's model number, find the manufacturer's support page for it, and it'll have wifi drivers you can download from there. Obviously, if your PC is not currently online then you'd have to do this on another PC that is online and put the drivers onto a flash drive or something, then plug that flash drive into the PC you're trying to install the drivers onto.

[tribal echo]

I am trying to install them via browsing for It but It still says unable to install It. Is It because the file is a WIN1064 and not 11? There isn’t an 11 one on the site

[lone ibex]

What model is your motherboard?

[lone ibex]

Windows 10 and 11 use the same drivers

[brittle lynx]

I thought I had broken the modem on my s21 since the esim also didn't work. apparently all it needed was another fall to fix itself

[tribal echo]

Asus B550 tuf gaming WiFi II

[lone ibex]

This motherboard model can have either realtek or mediatek wifi depending on the individual one you have

go to details, what is the vendor ID

[lone ibex]

On this screen, go to the Details tab, and then in the dropdown choose Hardware IDs

[tribal echo]

In system?

[lone ibex]

it'll say PCI\VEN_something

[brittle lynx]

*and they say violence is never the answer

[lone ibex]

in the properties of the network device, in device manager

[lone ibex]

this

[lone ibex]

On this screen, go to the Details tab, and then in the dropdown choose Hardware IDs

[tribal echo]

I see container ID

Oh nvm

[lone ibex]

That's Mediatek

If you downloaded the first driver under Wifi drivers on the Asus support page, it was a Realtek driver

[tribal echo]

Ohhhh

[lone ibex]

It's not your fault

Asus is confusing for this

[tribal echo]

Yeah wtf I’ve never had issues with this kinda stuff before. So where is the mediatek one?

I’m also confused on why It isn’t under the network adapters section

[lone ibex]

https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b550-plus-wifi-ii/helpdesk_download?model2Name=TUF-GAMING-B550-PLUS-WIFI-II

Scroll down to the section where it says Wireless, there is a blue link under that says "See All Downloads"

[tribal echo]

okay let me try

[lone ibex]

it says Show All

it'll expand out that section and then the second driver under Wireless is the newest Mediatek one

[tribal echo]

Extracting rn

Is It the asus setup I open?

LETS GO

Thank you so much doug.

[heavy dew]

The only pc you can see in the photo

[heavy dew]

I hope not, I picked up that hoe for $5 so I can sell it on eBay

[heavy dew]

iPhone 4 users be like:

[heavy dew]

YOURE welcome

[misty sparrow]

hello jp

[dusk knot]

Hello individual who currently and may never have a gf

[misty sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/411440525120503809/1005230249572843540/607374B3-DE40-48C0-A5BA-B502EDD089A6.gif

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-miles-morales-miles-shocked-surprise-gif-13646668700392851337

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-ishowspeed-gif-1290931606264393136

[dusk knot]

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/yungviral-gif-570542313379526372

[lone ibex]

Funny.
When Gigabyte changes something like the wifi card, they make a new revision number on the motherboard. So you'll see on their support page a lot of times there's a version 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 etc on a particular motherboard.
Asus says, "Good luck."

[tribal echo]

So silly

[lone ibex]

Also worth mentioning, personally I've had a lot of trouble with that MediaTek wifi adapter. It's hit-or-miss for a lot of people. So if it drops connection a lot, you might wind up wanting to do something else anyway.

And if you wind up getting a different adapter to put into a PCIe slot for example, find a model based on Intel AX210. Probably the most reliable wifi adapter on the market. It's "only" Wifi 6E but still plenty fast.

[lone mango]

I might get the qcncm865

[lone ibex]

If only Intel made CPUs that were as reliable as their WiFi chips

[lone mango]

Well it seems that the be200 isnt as great as I thought it was

There was one that blew up

ax210 is good though

Maybe I might get that

But I have a wifi 7 router so ima probably get the qualcomm instead

[lone ibex]

6GHz has an awfully short range

I feel like WiFi7 is overhyped, its utility is kneecapped by the range issue

[lone mango]

Yeah if I get half the speed in this room at 5, I wonder how bad 6 would be

This router is dual band though, so no 6g

[lone ibex]

If you're going to be close enough to get WiFi 7 signals... you're probably also close enough to run a 50ft CAT7 cable

And that's just superior in every way

[zinc fjord]

Anyone know much about pre-built PCs? I’m looking around and can’t find much that stand out. Wondering if anyone knows much about them.

[arctic lily]

pre builts are the same as normal pc's

you just have to compare their parts and value

[zinc fjord]

Right, but any sources that seem to be overall the best?

[arctic lily]

if you find some i can tell you if its worth it

but it will always, always be better to build

[royal crow]

Support

From experience

[idle nexus]

I ordered a pre-built in like 2020 that came destroyed thanks to FedEx. Best thing that could've happened. Building your own PC is so much more fulfilling & I highly recommend considering it lol.

[zinc fjord]

Alright!

Thanks!

[arctic lily]

if you want we can help you choose parts based on your budget too

[idle nexus]

but that aside... was it ABS I remember people recommending here before? MSI has decent prebuilts oddly enough

[zinc fjord]

Alright

[idle nexus]

you'll get a lot more "bang for your buck" tho

[arctic lily]

indeed

and satisfaction

[idle nexus]

it can be a headache learning about each part--& trust me, I bought some dumb things when I was first getting into all this.

but I was being hard-headed & didn't ask for help

[arctic lily]

same bro my first pc had a 13400f and rx 580 with a 80 plus white 500w psu

[idle nexus]

it was more like, I'd buy something then find out I could've saved money for something better lol

hence my 2x32gb DDR4 crap RAM that was insanely expensive

it's now in my dad's build so I don't have to look at it & remember being a clown lol

[arctic lily]

i paid 400 bucks for my b580

[rigid sinew]

hello everyone ! happy fri-YAY

[idle nexus]

but ya, if you have an approximate amount of what you'd like to spend on it, that's a good start. Of course use case (gaming or productivity mainly) & other things like if you're interested in overclocking or just want something that'll work dependably once assembled

[arctic lily]

Are you ready to make a first draft list or are you still thinking about it

[idle nexus]

hellllooo

[arctic lily]

friday is not yay saturday is saturyay

[rancid juniper]

both Nvidia and AMD AiBs gotta go back to traditional connectors

😂

[idle nexus]

lol will someone please ban that connector or something

[rancid juniper]

^^^

its been nothing but problems

[idle nexus]

I'm down for 8 6+2 connections if it means no fires

[proud jackal]

[rancid juniper]

first world problems lol, they keep bringing issues that never existed

[arctic lily]

they dared put that connector on a 9070xt??

like ackshually???

[rancid juniper]

yea

[arctic lily]

when will they learn

or like make the cables on the 12 pin the same guage as 8 pin

or even just make it a little bit bigger

OR USE 8 PINS

[rancid juniper]

dude was using an adapter?

https://www.techpowerup.com/340193/melting-12vhpwr-connector-claims-its-first-amd-rx-9070-xt-victim

[lone mango]

Not the first

[upper rain]

counteroffer 2x 6 pins and they're rated for 300w

[rancid juniper]

These connectors cannot handle the high wattage, i mean i cant image pulling over 450w on one small connector as that

that high load has to be separated

[arctic lily]

why dont they make two really large guage wires

like the +2 in a 6+2 connector but chonk

[nocturne flicker]

Fri-Nay

[arctic lily]

no reason why they made everything have multiple wires in the same wire

except the 24 pin that has a reason

[nocturne flicker]

What if we just put a 24 pin on the gpu

[upper rain]

the default 6 pin can already tolerate 300w

it's just a matter of whether or not you mind shid tier PSUs exploding because they're garbage fire hazards

[arctic lily]

i thought it was like 154w

for the 6+2

[upper rain]

8 pin is rated to 150w but ratings are meaningless. the 6 pin has the same number of 12v pins as the 8 pin. they can both tolerate 300w in ideal conditions

[arctic lily]

oh yeah bc the +2 are both negative right

[upper rain]

as long as you don't use extremely thin wiring and a really bad psu it's like not even remotely an issue

[upper rain]

one is an optional sense pin that functions as gnd and the other is gnd

[nocturne flicker]

6 pin and 8 pins can have the same exact issue, they just occur at much lower rates

[upper rain]

the 6/8 pin spec allow for per connector current monitoring and the connector is more mechanically and electrically robust

[nocturne flicker]

Yes. Which is why the incident rate is lower

[upper rain]

it's a straight improvement to havw 2x 6 pins consuming 600w total vs a 12vhpwr in every way

yeah i'm not disagreeing

i just think it's silly to consider it an 'issue' when the bottom decile is going to do bottom decile things and not plug their connector in all the way. but even still the 8/6 pin is more difficult to improperly mate

[nocturne flicker]

If only someone bothered to dummy proof the 12vhpwr cable before swapping over to it

[upper rain]

or just didn't screw up the finalized spec

[arctic lily]

i shall demonstrate magic

[upper rain]

the 3090 ti variant is far more reliable

[arctic lily]

/italics

oh wrong slash

*notitalics*

[idle nexus]

I got one of those keyboard cleaner things that's also a small vacuum supposedly

130k RPM motor

150w

charging it now lol

[arctic lily]

all u gotta do is take all keys off, take kb apart, separate everything else from the circuit board and then scrub with soap

[idle nexus]

I usually remove all the keys like 1-2x a year & clean under there

I should throw the key caps in some dish soap tho. That's a good idea

probably the thing I use these little things for most is drying washable A/C filters tbh lol

theyr'e nice for cleaning inside computer case tho

& getting annoying dust out of radiators

[fast vale]

Hey, guys am new to pc building. never used newegg before. i was thinking about upgrading my pc. is newegg reliable? i was thinking buy an asus tuf B850 mobo and a ryzen 5 9600x and a combo of the corsair 3500x case and 1000W psu from corsair. all these are sold and shipped by newegg.

[idle nexus]

I'd say yes, but "reliable" in what sense?

[fast vale]

its just that i have been reading reddit comments. they are all positive on the delivery and quality. but they say that if u do get a defective piece or anything doesnt work, its a hassle to return it and get your refund. so i was wondering about it

[idle nexus]

I've never had to return anything to Newegg. I think it was like 2-3 years ago now that they got in some hot water with Gamers Nexus so there was an emphasis on making the experience better. The website says they even send you a shipping label for items 50lbs or less. Apparently there's a 15% restocking fee too. I dunno if they're any better or worse than, for example, Amazon tbh

[zinc fjord]

Still thinking

[idle nexus]

Newegg's PC builder thing is pretty good & might get you "combo" deals. Otherwise, you may want to try pcpartpicker: https://pcpartpicker.com/

[upper rain]

pcpp is heaps better, but i always augment it by doing manual searches on newegg for parts that are sometimes discounted/open box that PCPP doesn't always pick up on

keep in mind that certain PCPP won't scrape some sites, so the MSRP 5070 ti's don't really show up

but they do exist, just have to kinda know in advance

[fast vale]

i see. i have never got anything defective product on any online purchase, i was kinda skeptical with newegg. thanks for the info

[arctic lily]

guys youll never believe what just happened

i tried to buy an xbox 360 like 5 months ago but it never arrived so i bought one at a store instead and got a refund for the first one not coming

until TODAY

it randomly shows up on my doorstep

"better late than never" ahh box, its beat up and the packing is minimal but IT WORKS

[icy ore]

Jesus that’s wild

[proud jackal]

[tranquil pebble]

maybe even bump ATX up to 24V so you dont need as much current

or just a 24 V rail on PSU for GPUs with i.e. an ATX 4 spec

[sinful blade]

Send it to me

I can build a pc in it

[arctic lily]

the box?

[sinful blade]

The Xbox

[arctic lily]

nah man now i can play with my brother without needing splitscreen

plus its quite damaged

cracks on the corners, broken fins on the exhaust grill and funny smell

and the power adapter makes a weird noise as if its an angry hdd being run

[nocturne flicker]

Theo_Newt

[dusk knot]

rip theo

[arctic lily]

hes gone mad

or hes waiting to see someone say "how come you can send that and i cant"

Cause its nitro exclusive

[acoustic palm]

ahhhhh this rabbit hole sucks

[arctic lily]

what

[acoustic palm]

portable monitors

https://www.amazon.com/HONGO-Portable-Monitor-Touchscreen-3840X2160/dp/B0F5BM8R6B/146-0492170-4076815 i found this but i cant find the hz

[lone mango]

Hongo

[acoustic palm]

oh its 60hz ew

[lone mango]

honk

[nocturne flicker]

Bingo Bango Hongo

[nocturne flicker]

Bingo Bango Hongo

[acoustic palm]

yup

https://www.amazon.com/Newsoul-Portable-2880x1800-Display，500-Brightness/dp/B0DHR73D1H This is my next option

[proud jackal]

New discord quest dropped

[acoustic palm]

damn

[arctic lily]

fr

he finally said something thats not that dumb salamander newt frog emoji

the compy emoji

[icy ore]

[unreal trail]

tell that to my Switch 2

[dense locust]

Ok bring it to me so I can tell it

[dusk knot]

[opaque sedge]

Crazy to say that considering how the game has been improved by now, game’s pure eye candy has graphics features meant to scale for future hardware, sheer amt of crowds and npcs present in the game, it makes proper use of the hardware that runs the game. Cant expect it to get over a 100 frames at max settings rt enabled and such but it runs extremely well atm

[hoary zodiac]

The real problem should be the fact that the game was released unoptimized

[opaque sedge]

And also upscaling being pushed out so much… cuz the gpu still maxes out in my case even on high crowd density on native resolutions but with upscaling rendering it near 1080p internally yh cpu starts taking the strain

And then ngreedia glazers say they dont care abt native performance

[upper rain]

increase your res to reduce the cpu load 🤓🤓🤓

[opaque sedge]

Honestly i might just play at native still get good framerates with optimized settings 70-90

[upper rain]

this is true but only because nvidia fcked up graphics by introducing temporal solutions to graphics problems that GPUs aren't fast enough to fix yet. DLSS 4 (UPSCAING) genuinely looks better than native in most recent games bc it clears up the temporal smearing. give me MSAA in a nice forward rendered game and DLSS gets mogged

[opaque sedge]

Yeah witcher 3 looks better with dlss quality than native wish it had the option for dlaa tho ngl

[idle nexus]

DLAA at native looks nice lol

[opaque sedge]

Yeah it looks awesome

[idle nexus]

check nexus lol

[opaque sedge]

Oh can always depend on modders

[idle nexus]

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/7925

[upper rain]

dlss 4 is the only good thing to come from nvidia since 3000 series, and that got ruined by TSMC shutting down their fabs

[upper rain]

i'm a certified tweak 7 days a week

i love dlss4 👅👅👅

[idle nexus]

I use DLSS in Fallout 4 lol

DLSS Swapper

with the DLSS mod

XeSS & FSR work too

[upper rain]

i need to try out XeSS on my arcs

[opaque sedge]

I like dlss 3 on cyberpunk personally, cuz cyberpunk has this bug with foilage that makes the pixels dance around doesn’t matter if u play at native or not, and dlss 4 makes it worse, but for some reason the dlss 3 model completely eliminates that issue

[upper rain]

im arcmaxxing tomorrow. a770 hardmod time yipee

[upper rain]

interesting, have you messed with the dlss4 models at all? J preset is standard on CP2077 iirc, and it tends to make those issues a bit worse compared to K

[opaque sedge]

Have played cyberpunk on radeon too before and that was present there too

[opaque sedge]

I did found them to be the same

[upper rain]

sadge

[opaque sedge]

Opted for dlss 3

[upper rain]

makes sense

[opaque sedge]

Or cnn model specifically

[upper rain]

dlss4 kinda ruined dlss3 for me, i run dlss4 and if it has weird artifacting i bite the bullet and tolerate it or just run native at reduced settings. i can't handle the temporal blur

[opaque sedge]

foilage ghosting or pixelation is dlss4’s main weakness rn

[upper rain]

oh really? this is something i've seen dlss4 really excel at in my games

[opaque sedge]

It can be present in other games too but since cyberpunk alr had an issue with foilage it makes it worse and significantly noticeable

[upper rain]

ah

[opaque sedge]

Yeah its a matter of noticing

[upper rain]

i wonder if its the case that its interpolating an existant issue and making it much worse in the upscaled image

[opaque sedge]

Not too bad in local distances

But if u look for foilage that is far out it can be seen

[upper rain]

tbh i sold all my nvidias so i cannot recheck my games lol

i have a 3090 ti i need to send out for repair soon

[sinful blade]

I can repair it

[upper rain]

but i kinda want to buy a 7900 gre instead

[sinful blade]

[upper rain]

do you do repair work?

[opaque sedge]

Such a goated card

[sinful blade]

I’ll give you my 9060 for that 3090ti

[sinful blade]

Nah, I have no clue

[upper rain]

if the 9060 works we have a deal lol

16gb?

[sinful blade]

9060xt 16GB

[opaque sedge]

Damn

[sinful blade]

What’s wrong with your 3090ti?

[upper rain]

homie i assume you're joking but if you want it i'll do the trade lol

[sinful blade]

A lot of those only had cable melting

[upper rain]

either just a busted bios switch (i can probably jank a solution to test this but i'm lazy) or something i lack the skills to diagnose

i know the switch is busted but idk if that's what prevents it from posting

[opaque sedge]

Apparently valve might be making a steam home console

With a dgpu

[upper rain]

it gets power but no post. iirc the vrms output sensible voltages for startup

[opaque sedge]

Which is a 7600xt…

Wish they opted for the 9060xt ngl

[upper rain]

could genuinely just be the bios switch... i should try it tomorrow tbh

[lone mango]

Oh yeah im arcing it right now yeah feels so good

[sinful blade]

If you can get it fixed, lmk

We aren’t supposed to talk about this in here, so shhhhh

[upper rain]

im arcing it im arcing it oh im arcing my shiz rn im gonna alchemist on my battlemage

[upper rain]

will do. if its just the switch being borked i assume i can just like jump a wire or smth to connect up the bios leads to... wherever it goes to. i can probs find a boardview

[sinful blade]

Me and @upper rain are both dumb

[upper rain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1384538401440665620/1385260216249221190/brandbird_4.gif

[sinful blade]

Literally us

[lone mango]

fr

[sinful blade]

I absolutely carried the one trick on our team a few hours ago

[opaque sedge]

shitton of npcs guess its a given even a 7800x3d would bottleneck a 4070super when the game's rendering at near 1080p internally

still i'm impressed with the 7800x3d cuz it atleast allows the gpu to max out native 3440x1440p

conclusion

i hate upscaling...

[pliant berry]

Yes

And I hate computers

[opaque sedge]

U do?

[pliant berry]

Yes, too many problems. Go back to analog I shall

[lone mango]

Bouta spend $45 on a wifi card

[dense locust]

ive been using mine for years

since w10 doesnt support wifi 7 i have to keep using it

[arctic lily]

Heehehehaw

[opaque sedge]

Return to monke

[lone mango]

Running a cable would be inconvenient here and my dad cares too much about small things that dont matter much

He would be like what the hell if he saw the cable

Even though its not a big deal, but also it would just suck to route

Not only am I getting crap speeds but I also just had major packet loss

[idle nexus]

run thru ceiling crawl space; drop down thru wall; use a low voltage wall cut in & ethernet keystone; make fancy jack; profit

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Carlon-1-Gang-Non-Metallic-Low-Voltage-Old-Work-Bracket-SC100RR-SC100RR/100160916

[lone mango]

Well we wont be here for long

[idle nexus]

ah heck um

maybe run a cable under an area rug or something then lol

or use drywall staples to mount it nicely on the wall along the base board?

[lone mango]

Before I accept the cable reality I will first see how this new card will perform

[idle nexus]

er coax staples I mean

[idle nexus]

like these

[lone mango]

oo

true

[acoustic palm]

i hate those

[idle nexus]

lol ah yes the old, "I want to backfeed my whole house thru my dryer's plug when power goes out. I probably won't remember to shut off the main breaker to the house, so I risk shocking the utility worker trying to get back power back on, or a big boom when the utility power & the generator power collide."

[lone mango]

I might have it on the ceiling and then have it go down right next to the door and then into my room

[idle nexus]

tbh these are better but ya they both kinda suck

[acoustic palm]

ive gotten a few holes in my hand from those screws

at my old work

[idle nexus]

I used to put in Romex staples & hit my fingers like 20x with the damn hammer lol

these are nice except when the double-sided foam crap that's supposed to keep them on the wall lets go

[tranquil pebble]

ouch

[idle nexus]

these stupid things are so hard to get started

[tranquil pebble]

wouldn't be surprised if doing this is illegal in most places

[idle nexus]

you tap them in & they fall out

[tranquil pebble]

and if not, it should be

[idle nexus]

it's gotta be tbh

if you have a generator you should at the very least have an interlock device thing on your panel so you can't turn on the breaker for the generator hookup without turning off the main breaker feeding the panel

[tranquil pebble]

yeah taking shortcuts with electrical stuff is how people get injured or killed

[idle nexus]

for sure

for small applications, manual transfer switch. Big ones, automatic transfer switch

I wonder if there are YT vidoes showing what happens when you have two separately derived systems connected to the same panel lol

they have some arc blast videos that are crazy

arc blast = copper going from solid to gaseous state over the course of like nano seconds

copper gas takes up a lot more space than solid copper lol

[tranquil pebble]

tremendous amount of energy release go brr

[deep parcel]

wait really??? that might explain why I havent been able to use wifi on my mobo at all but bluetooth works just fine.

[dense locust]

it does not

[deep parcel]

thats crazy

[dense locust]

it took me forever to figure that out

[tranquil pebble]

probably takes a lot of power to cause an arc blast

[dense locust]

wifi 6 is the last supported wifi version in windows 10

[idle nexus]

here's what it looked like in like 1992 or something. 35,000 degrees F https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hpE5LYj-CY

[idle nexus]

just crossing phases can do it

like if you drop your screwdriver & the metal shank lands on the lug for Phase A & Phase B at the same time

[tranquil pebble]

AC electricity has always known to be relatively dangerous

[idle nexus]

my YT is borked lol

no video previews anymore

not sure which ad-blocking extension to blame

[tranquil pebble]

None. Blame Google lol.

[idle nexus]

lol they can take my thumbnails away

small price to pay for not wasting my time watching their stupid ads

[sinful blade]

@idle nexus are you good with motherboards?

Gigabyte B550M-K vs an MSI B450M Bazooka V2.

I have the b550. The b450 has an RGB header I want.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-BAZOOKA-V2/support

vs

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550M-K-rev-10

[tranquil pebble]

tfw you alias vibe to make so you can vibe check your code

[dense locust]

@grok is this true?

[lone mango]

gorg ss thsi tu

gghsf

u

[lone mango]

@hoary zodiac yo this is insane

i am getting faster speeds than windows even though i am using btrfs

Ah crap

that was with a different drive

Still though

That is with copy on write penalty too

Ok this is what I expected I knew that was too good to be true

I was looking at the wrong thing

I get like 2/3 of perf

I should try a normal file system and see the perf increase

this app asks you if you want to make a subvolume with cow off

[hoary zodiac]

eh?

[proud jackal]

[cedar compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852302171286405201/1329854457432899646/Businessing.gif

[hoary zodiac]

I love AI spam

That profile pic has Österreich written all over it

It would seem that AI can't differentiate between Austria and Australia

[tranquil pebble]

no biggie, only two entirely different parts of the planet

[pliant berry]

I thought they were same place wdym

[craggy shoal]

Man where did we go wrong

[elfin mural]

tbh that is ultra

and ultra graphics almost always tank perf for tiny fidelity gains

[craggy shoal]

I mean sure if that includes ray tracing

[elfin mural]

im still not happy about 36 fps on a 4060 tho

[craggy shoal]

It's also 1080p though (please tell me path tracing is enabled)

[elfin mural]

gotta admit

the game has no rt

it runs on a 1650

yeah that's bad

[craggy shoal]

tbf though I don't mind all of the DLSS crap and whatever else. Just give me more VRAM (I think the lack of more VRAM is what upsets me an others the most)

[elfin mural]

7.1 gb means there's enough vram

imo anyway

it's probably to do with the fact that the game is heavy

[craggy shoal]

Multiple things regarding VRAM:

• Don't advertise AI with your consumer-grade GPUs and pack a WHOPPING 8GB. 8GB GPUs were in the era of a 256GB boot SSD and a 1TB hard drive for your games, basically a decade ago
• A lot of people need to stop buying 1080p monitors. 1440p monitors are currently about as expensive as 1080p monitors about a decade ago

imo we shouldn't be stuck at 1080p and 8GB. We're basically where we were 10 years ago

[tranquil pebble]

nah we are behind where we were 10 years ago because of how much sloppier AAA has gotten

[craggy shoal]

I also agree with that

Could even be categorized as a separate issue but GPU manufacturers have to compensate for it (again, with DLSS and FG)

[tranquil pebble]

those can not compensate for everything though

I mostly find FG useful for bypassing fps locks

[elfin mural]

i unno, im ok with 1080p

there are a ton of gaming laptop users still

i don't see 1440p as a neccessity

unless you go larger than 24" i guess

but the funny thing is that 4k gaming was feasible 10 years ago

native at that

in terms of story games

[craggy shoal]

idk lol. I don't think I can go back to 1080p

Maybe especially with BF6 releasing and now there's going to be a Hell Let Loose based in Vietnam (definitely buying that one). I feel like 1440p is necessary just to see enemies from afar (you'd just have to play these games to understand that, especially for Hell Let Loose)

[elfin mural]

i guess

i just don't like those kinda games enough to see a disadvantage

[cedar compass]

Yeah at 1080p you see nothing in big maps of BF

[tranquil pebble]

even at 1440p it was hard for me to see enemies

[tranquil pebble]

for the first point: 8 GB VRAM is actually plenty for some lighter LLMs and even SD 1.5.

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/aoostar-to-launch-worlds-first-amd-ryzen-9-9955hx-and-9955hx3d-mobile-on-desktop-platforms

[tranquil pebble]

yeah, not sure I would trust that

[arctic lily]

the question is why

[rancid juniper]

curiousity maybe

[arctic lily]

when will i ever graduate from regular+

[sinful blade]

@upper rain

[upper rain]

ooh nice

i wish that was available when i was buying my arcs lol

is it shipped or local tho?

shipped fbm = scam as far as i'm concerned

[sinful blade]

Local

[upper rain]

nice

[upper rain]

the sparkle uses the same mp2975 for vcore as the acer, so not usable for what i want, but still a nifty deal all the same

[tranquil pebble]

just keep chatting daily and eventually

[dusk knot]

[upper rain]

never

[craggy shoal]

never

[idle nexus]

lol

[tranquil pebble]

someone probably believed it, and flushed money down the toilet too

[idle nexus]

this article came out 4 hours ago

wth

[tranquil pebble]

so they had literally every possible opportunity to rethink about publishing in the wake of all the Roblox news, and simply did not. Yikes.

Credibility of that site just went way down. Even if it was not very high to begin with.

[idle nexus]

I guess the crap hasn't hit the fan yet

guess I'll spread the word myself lol

this guy is gonna be the reason Roblox goes down

this dude needs to be a meme

[idle nexus]

I'm not gonna continue with this but not cool, man, not cool

[proud jackal]

[lone mango]

Robox

[sinful blade]

What in the Facebook marketplace

[lone mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749805242928857189/1408840979301142528/Screenshot_20250823_115053_YouTube.jpg?ex=68ab34e8&is=68a9e368&hm=68bfcc684d5b297105878d4f4ec6f12e74d002d679e178a3cbedf3f844ae3bef&

They are cooking

[elfin mural]

lmao

exposed by a random employee at bloomberg too

[upper rain]

i assume this is garden supplies of the yeaaahhhhhh duuuuude variety

truly a fascinating specimen

[frosty sinew]

Uhhh

Is my psu 5v rail shitting the bed

[lone mango]

I would check in hardwareinfo

[frosty sinew]

Idk if im tweaking

I cant find it

[lone mango]

Its a windows program

[frosty sinew]

Yeah I cant see it in there

[lone mango]

[frosty sinew]

My pc is turning off randomly as well

Soooo

[lone mango]

Ok so bios reading is probably right lol

[tranquil pebble]

I would not be surprised if some manipulation is going on here

[idle nexus]

emailing the governor's office like

[frosty sinew]

Yeah...

No blue screen.. just off

[idle nexus]

likely FCLK related

[frosty sinew]

Whats that

Yeah 4.47v in hv monitor

Might be cooked

[lone mango]

Do you have something plugged in that’s draining all of that

[frosty sinew]

Which is odd cuz it was fine when I did gpu and cpu benchmark

It was playing games that it randomly dies

[frosty sinew]

Such as?

I've got peripherals

[idle nexus]

oh gpu nvm sorry

what cpu? sorry new to the party

[frosty sinew]

9950x3d, 6700xt and rm850x

[nocturne flicker]

Gonna be too busy defending Uthmeier's money laundering scheme

[frosty sinew]

Might need new psu

[lone mango]

Try reseating first

My computer was taking two minutes to boot because 24 pin was not plugged in all the way

[frosty sinew]

would that really only mess up 5v rail tho

[tranquil pebble]

Voltage is out of spec

[frosty sinew]

ya think? lol

[tranquil pebble]

and by no small amount

[misty sparrow]

Clippy would’ve sued Roblox already

[frosty sinew]

ok what in the flip @lone mango

i wiggled the 24 pin like a TINY amount

its up to 4.86 now

[lone mango]

[frosty sinew]

thats wack

i didnt even turn it off

[lone mango]

Yeah 5v is for motherboard stuff

[frosty sinew]

ig gaming had smtg to do with it

cuz it only restarted during gaming

[lone mango]

Well not all motherboard stuff

But some

[tranquil pebble]

not really... a pin not making perfect contact increases electrical resistance... this in turn drops voltage

[frosty sinew]

i fuly loaded it and it was fine

[frosty sinew]

theres like 10 5v pins

[lone mango]

[frosty sinew]

well 5

but still

[tranquil pebble]

could be a faulty PSU cable

[frosty sinew]

which is odd ive been using it for 3 days and its been fine

i did take it in a car

but that was the side with the other 3 5v wires so

[tranquil pebble]

or could have just loosened up a tad too much

[frosty sinew]

like 1 mnonth old extensions

yeah imma reseat it and see

[lone mango]

Prob moving did it

My cable was loosened a little after I took out a sata cable

[frosty sinew]

Wack

[lone mango]

Itx problems

My hand probably moved it and didnt notice

[frosty sinew]

Mine atx lmao

[tranquil pebble]

one time I had a DIMM get disconnected by dust lol

[lone mango]

Mine are fused to the slots

I can’t take them out

[tranquil pebble]

how?

[dusk knot]

Hm

Chat

[tranquil pebble]

feels like Discord in general has been kinda dead today so far

[idle nexus]

do both GPUs work on other systems?

[idle nexus]

contact fretting lol

[tranquil pebble]

someone also sold me a "broken" desktop for $30... and were shocked when I had it working in less than 5 mins... loose DIMM in this case

[frosty sinew]

?

[idle nexus]

damn that's a steal. with what components?

[idle nexus]

I think that's normal

[frosty sinew]

yeah now it is

it was 4.5 earlier

[idle nexus]

are you running XMP?

[frosty sinew]

yes

[idle nexus]

see if it craps out without XMP

usually no blue screen & insta-crash/restart is VSOC related

I've been at war with it on my AM5 system

[frosty sinew]

i think it was the psu

if it does it agasin then ill check

[idle nexus]

my 2x32gb 6400c28 1:1 memory OC for over a year suddenly did that under load

I'm still suspicious it's AGESA related

but I haven't found many talking about it in my brief online searches

rn I'm trying to do 2x24gb 8000c36 2:1

which is hard to stabilize oddly

I thought it was the DIMMs but not sure about that anymore

it's unlikely both my 1200w Thermaltake Platinum & 1600w EVGA Gold PSUs are the issue

[frosty sinew]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[idle nexus]

so I think I've narrowed it down to CPU or motherboard

I was thinking degradation of the Infinity Fabric since I'm using an Asrock board that loves to toast CPUs

[idle nexus]

I'm not suggesting you no longer run XMP, just as like a control

I was even worried my 4090 was borked at one point

I hate this chipset driver lol

in fact, I'm using a 6.xx.xx.xxx chipset driver rn

& downgraded BIOS

the thing is, I'm not even sure you can downgrade AGESA even rolling back BIOS

I know you can't downgrade Management Engine on Intel processors by rolling back BIOS

apparently AGESA is at like 1.2.0.7 but latest BIOS on my motherboard are only 1.2.0.3e? I dunno wth

[frosty sinew]

why

[idle nexus]

well my system going to crap seemed to coincide with this update

you never know since Windows updates apparently break SSDs

like why do they have to keep touching crap that works fine?

[frosty sinew]

fr

[idle nexus]

they update to justify being on the payroll I guess

memory OC is sooooo sensitive rn

like changing VDDIO from 1.22v to 1.26v is the difference between POSTing & failing Prime94 Large FFT after a few minutes & no POST

like wth

every BIOS update seems to massively change default ProcODT

dGPU only mode, changing VSOC LLC, disabling PowerDown, & disabling MCR all affect stability massively somehow

I've somewhere between trying really hard & heck it I don't care anymore I'll use 12900K build whatever

Auto VDDP used to be fine

now changing from 1.15v to 1.11v is the difference between POST/no POST

wth

[frosty sinew]

oooof

[proud jackal]

[dusk knot]

buy

for the waifu

jk. i doubt the qaulity

[pliant berry]

if it's miku it's quality

[proud jackal]

It's Asus TUF

[idle nexus]

the worst part is Reddit is the main place anyone discusses these things it's always something like, "my CoRsaIR VenGENcE RAMz nOT worKING" and every conclusion is like, "juST tuRN OFf EXPo," "RmA YoUr CpU," or "YoUr RAMz mUsT be bAD"

[idle nexus]

are you hanging out at Newegg again or something? lol

[proud jackal]

Competitor event

[idle nexus]

what's that? lol

[proud jackal]

Rival store

[idle nexus]

oooo

it's ON

[proud jackal]

[frosty sinew]

i just use chat gpt

its nicer

and more helpful

[frosty sinew]

ur fired

[arctic lily]

fr

[idle nexus]

lol I've used Co-Pilot before & it wasn't exactly helpful tbh

[frosty sinew]

chat gpt helps more than reddit

[royal crow]

All in favor

Say aye

Aye

[idle nexus]

ya you're right. Reddit sucks but aren't all those AI things just scraping info from there anyway?

[dusk knot]

👀

[frosty sinew]

exactly

so its nice

[idle nexus]

lol but that means it's just telling you what clowns on Reddit said anyway?

[pliant berry]

it's usually decent at filtering out the arguments people have on reddit so that can be nice

[frosty sinew]

yes but the clowns on reddit are rude

[idle nexus]

I don't think I've ever posted on Reddit cuz I know how those people tend to be

Louis Rossman said best way to get an answer on Reddit isn't to ask but to just make one up & everyone will correct you

[pliant berry]

kinda true tbh

[frosty sinew]

yeaaaah

[worthy meteor]

wasnt that the strat for stackoverflow

[idle nexus]

actually I take that back. I posted on hwswap once & moderators took it down cuz I didn't follow some convoluted nonsense so I gave up

[nocturne flicker]

Remember when Google told everyone to put glue on pizza

[idle nexus]

lol ya & eat rocks I think

[solemn lintel]

anyone know any good monitor suggestions, I need one with a vesa mount and thatll be good enough for my 9070xt

[lone mango]

It is already fixed

But yeah they will keep doing stuff like this because people will keep using it

[frosty sinew]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2300643456995179

correct me if im wrong

but a 4090 for 410 usd is a good deal