general-chat

[dense locust]

I got 4tb for $285

[hoary zodiac]

2TB?

[frigid stag]

yeah

[rancid juniper]

just realized something

[hoary zodiac]

OOS

[rancid juniper]

where is that vex dude?

[hoary zodiac]

It'll be the same price if it has stock

[arctic lily]

vextro ai

[rancid juniper]

lol yea

[hoary zodiac]

Oh it does have stock

I hate pcpartpicker

Why tf does it say out of stock on the selection page

[dense locust]

Their instock list is pretty outdated

[hoary zodiac]

When there's in stock options

I mean it's $20 more

[rancid juniper]

i dont really use pcpp anytime i go searching for parts

heh

[hoary zodiac]

If you don't need the samsung reliability it's fine tbh

$20 less for a SN850X is a decent saving

I say samsung reliability but that only applies to pro ssd

[nocturne flicker]

Wait the non-X has DRAM

[rancid juniper]

if a 14700k was like $200 is it worth upgrading from a 13600k?

[hoary zodiac]

Their other ssds are mediocre

[rancid juniper]

just a thought

[hoary zodiac]

Depends

[dense locust]

My ssd still has 94% it’s 6 years old

[hoary zodiac]

If your use case is single thread heavy

Nah?

If you need the multi thread yes

[rancid juniper]

guess so

[nocturne flicker]

I guess the 750 non X was the one without a cache?

[frigid stag]

yeah

[rancid juniper]

not alot of games use multithread properly

i think

[hoary zodiac]

Actually hmm

If you sell the 13600k

[arctic lily]

what about for me

[rancid juniper]

no

[hoary zodiac]

That'd be like $100 right?

[frigid stag]

bf6 maxing out the 6 core cpus

[rancid juniper]

$100 for a 13600k used is wild

[hoary zodiac]

Actually that's not a bad price tbh

This market sucks ja

Exploit it

[arctic lily]

what if I got a 14700k

[rancid juniper]

pc melts

[arctic lily]

why

[hoary zodiac]

What is the use case

[arctic lily]

240mm should be fineee

[hoary zodiac]

Gaming?

[dense locust]

14900k

[arctic lily]

that and cpu intensive programs

[hoary zodiac]

You're gonna be gpu bottlenecked but yeah you'd see improvements in single thread heavy tasks

[nocturne flicker]

Nope it was the SN770

[arctic lily]

im not getting a nuclear reactor

[hoary zodiac]

Single thread and multi thread tbh

[rancid juniper]

I have a SN770 as boot, goated NVME ngl

even if its not dram

its fast af

[dense locust]

How will you keep warm in the winter

[arctic lily]

didnt they find out the b580 gets more performance the stronger the cpu, to an extent

[rancid juniper]

yes

[arctic lily]

with heater

[rancid juniper]

and thats a problem

[nocturne flicker]

With PC

[hoary zodiac]

intel skill issue

[dense locust]

I now run a 990 pro
It’s alright i guess

[arctic lily]

well for me it makes upgrading cpu even better

[hoary zodiac]

Samsung Pro ssds are good if you have a use for them

[rancid juniper]

Don't like that it needs rebar as well, it really kills the battlemage series and the rest of their offerings

[hoary zodiac]

Like being hammered constantly

[nocturne flicker]

Run heavy workload in winter for an hour or two, makes room warm

[hoary zodiac]

That's when they're worth the price tag

[nocturne flicker]

Summer becomes pain tho

[arctic lily]

whys rebar bad i heard its a good thing

[hoary zodiac]

Siberian Gaming

[rancid juniper]

like if Intel Arc Alchemist and Battlemage didn't have insane driver overhead, rebar support, and need for stronger cpus it would've been GOATED for low end pcs

[dense locust]

They haven’t fixed the cpu overhead?

[rancid juniper]

its bad because its a requirement for good performance

without rebar those arc cards run like doodoo

[arctic lily]

but if i have it enabled its fine?

[rancid juniper]

yes

[arctic lily]

well good cause im talking about my scenario not every scenario

[dense locust]

I hope Intel doesn’t give up with gpus but all this cost cutting it isn’t looking good

[rancid juniper]

the problem is that people running older computers dont have rebar

so no use in buying intel arc

only nvidia and AMD

[arctic lily]

ah

[nocturne flicker]

Older stuff sometimes doesn't have access to rebar and since these are budget GPUs...

[hoary zodiac]

Intel is breaking into a tough market

And intel as a company is uh

[rancid juniper]

pretty much

[hoary zodiac]

Probably going to downscale their operations

They already halted or stopped construction on new fabs

[rancid juniper]

they are failing on all fronts, maybe except for their upscaling software lmao

[hoary zodiac]

Chances are intel's gonna cut funding for arc

Or it'll be a radeon moment

Where the drivers are just always shit

(Pre RDNA 2 Radeon)

[dense locust]

Intel decided to innovate but the new ceo was like “this is taking too long” and cut all the projects

[nocturne flicker]

Intel is in a death spiral

[hoary zodiac]

They've mismanged a multi billion dollar company

[rancid juniper]

they are burning money for absolute garbage

[hoary zodiac]

They trolled themselves

[rancid juniper]

honestly impressive

[arctic lily]

No longer feel welcome lol

[dense locust]

The change in ceo mid plan didn’t help them at all

[hoary zodiac]

Intel has some good ideas

Then intel decides to do something stupid

I really hope this isn't another bulldozer situation

Hopefully intel doesn't end up like AMD where they have to rely on TSMC

Intel is bleeding money rn and it's really not that much of a stretch

[dense locust]

Yeah tsmc has too many eggs

[hoary zodiac]

Even with the US government pouring money into intel

[rancid juniper]

not really helping dumping the iconic "i" branding and going to core ultra

or whatever it is

[nocturne flicker]

The US subsidies are going to be a poisoned support

[arctic lily]

is this really a cpu problem https://www.ebay.com/itm/127315081379

[rancid juniper]

WAT

does not manage heat?

[arctic lily]

yeah thats weird

[dense locust]

This is either a scam or someone dumb

[arctic lily]

is this a case of the seller is dumb, god please tell me

[rancid juniper]

😂

[nocturne flicker]

This admin is being schizo about distributing money and schizo about what conditions are attached after the subsidies had been already settled and ready to disperse

[rancid juniper]

overall intel isn't really intelligent

😲

[nocturne flicker]

Intel has no intel and the people propping it up are twitching on the ground in a stupor

[arctic lily]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/127315080908 same seller and lower price with no og box

could it be that if i get this it works

and that the seller has a broken mobo

[nocturne flicker]

Gamba

[dense locust]

Same seller kinda suspicious tbh

[arctic lily]

its another of the same cpu but with no box

maybe

[dense locust]

Either this person is brain dead or is selling CPUs that are actually broken

[arctic lily]

what if i get a 12900k

[nocturne flicker]

What if you get an actually dead cpu

[rancid juniper]

surely this is worth it right?

[nocturne flicker]

I love how whenever the next game is coming out or will be soon they just say screw it put the old ones on sale for nearly nothing we don't care

[rancid juniper]

marketing tactic to reel in more players to the franchise

[nocturne flicker]

Though they also do those sales randomly iirc

[proud jackal]

[arctic lily]

bro, need i say more

[rancid juniper]

Theo_Frogs

[proud jackal]

He's a LIZARD

[rancid juniper]

gottem, he finally snaps out of it

[arctic lily]

Finally

someone rename him to Theo_Salamanders

[errant shoal]

Hello everyone!

[arctic lily]

welcome

[nocturne flicker]

Theo_Newt

[arctic lily]

Theo_Axolotl

[dusk knot]

Theo_Transformingintoalizard

[nocturne flicker]

Lizardification

[dusk knot]

That works

https://youtu.be/7t0szGK1gFw?si=VTqXMxY9J0UHtLBH Five hundred and forty hertz

[icy ore]

$3000

prob

[dusk knot]

Double

Maybe ….1400 max

[nocturne flicker]

Mmm

[proud jackal]

Do I buy 9950X3D on Saturday

[nocturne flicker]

Buy Intel

All of it

Save them from themselves

[proud jackal]

I have a 285K I've only booted up 10 times on

I should really sell that system....

[nocturne flicker]

I give potato you give potato system yes, big deals big deals

[upper rain]

to me... for cheap

[dusk knot]

no

i thought you had a 9800x3d

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/idc-benjammins-idc-meme-doesn't-matter-idrc-gif-6539195102930277112

[dusk knot]

[nocturne flicker]

I care

[onyx merlin]

so

what temp does your CPU Idle at everyone ?

Mines 38-45C

[royal crow]

~35, 45 under load

[onyx merlin]

My cpu is i9-14900F and I heard 14900s run hot

is that mostly true

[royal crow]

Yuh

Especially if you have the k/ks

[onyx merlin]

I am guessing K version runs even hotter.

dam lol

mines is F version but still seems to run fairly hot

[royal crow]

Yeah, things can hit 80 with a 360mm rad

[onyx merlin]

this alienware I got is last online pc I ever will buy.... would have gone to Microcenter but they only opened few months ago in my area

were not open around time I got alienware last november lol

for sure next pc will be from microcenter will just go have a field day and pick all the stuff I want and have them built it for me lol

[grizzled pelican]

Had a question about this PC listed: https://www.newegg.com/abs-stratos-aqua-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5070-intel-core-ultra-7-265kf-32gb-ddr5-2tb-nvme-ssd-sa265kf50702-black/p/N82E16883360876?Item=N82E16883360876. Was there an error when listing the motherboard? I'm pretty sure this motherboard isn't compatible with 14 gen intel chips. Also the pc has a wifi6E motherboard but lists wifi 5.

[dusk knot]

youre right

the CPU is not compatiable

the i5 14400f is LGA 1700

while the MOBO is LGA 1851

[grizzled pelican]

Would you say this is a listing error or would it just come like this and not work?

[dusk knot]

listing error

these PC are made by people I would think

they wouldnt try to jam a CPU that obviously doesnt fit into a socket lol

[grizzled pelican]

this PC has three options, and the first one sold out. would you say the third option is still good?

[dusk knot]

yep

the other one works

[grizzled pelican]

thanks, good to hear

[random osprey]

bf6 second weekened stats not out yet 😔

[dusk knot]

Bf6...eh

[lone mango]

Probably thinking of ks

[dusk knot]

[lone mango]

I love it

[dusk knot]

More of the same

[lone mango]

Not necessarily

[random osprey]

bro went from despising the game and crashes to loving it 🗿

[lone mango]

It is still different but also still battlefield

[lone mango]

I didn’t despise it I was just pissed

[random osprey]

its cause jp cant hang. he a 0.4kd player

[dusk knot]

Lmao

[arctic lily]

what software do you use to monitor it

[lone mango]

It was my memory

I made up for the past two weeks by playing all day sunday

[lone mango]

Mine goes from like 48 to low 50s

Zen io die be like

[arctic lily]

what software

[lone mango]

Just what the sensors say, any software has the same temps

Linux says this, hwinfo too

[arctic lily]

where do i see the sensors i mean

[lone mango]

Oh not at home rn if you mean a screenshot

[arctic lily]

where do i see my own stuff

i want

to see

my temps

[random osprey]

hwinfo

[arctic lily]

thank you

[lone mango]

Oh sorry lmao

[arctic lily]

hehe boi

[arctic lily]

https://tenor.com/view/american-dad-wasting-my-time-long-story-gif-8833480245409944009

[lone mango]

At gym rn frfr

[arctic lily]

well how bout that

[lone mango]

Thats a pro about monolithic

[random osprey]

now check the temp while stress testing it

[arctic lily]

bet

[arctic lily]

like not even 10 more

yes i did shift focus to hwinfo by clicking it

[lone mango]

Tru

My cpu uses 20w idle at the minimum

I think the lowest I saw was 21

Really it likes go be closer to 30

[arctic lily]

when i first ever installed my aio my cpu idled at around 8

degrees Celsius

lowest was 6

[lone mango]

Thats why idle goes to little over 50 after a short bit of being on

[dusk knot]

My cpu uses 0w

[lone mango]

[dusk knot]

When it's off

[peak heart]

Blender & gaming cpu/gpu? Under $2000 cad

[upper rain]

what sort of performance are you looking for?

bc you have a looot of options at that price range

[proud jackal]

[peak heart]

Gaming performance, blender performance, multi tasking discord and shii and some of editing

[peak heart]

Im so confused

Cant figure out it's been more than a month

[upper rain]

for sure, do you have any specific requirements or just looking for the best performance for your budget?

bc you can afford to go rather high end, but depending on your exact use case you might get away just fine with something rather a lot less expensive

[unreal trail]

[peak heart]

Performance 🗣️🗣️

[upper rain]

you can get 5070 ti at MSRP rn. i'm partial to the gigabyte model myself, but there is also an Asus and a PNY if you prefer

you can't quite afford 5090, and 5080 is barely better than 5070 ti gor a ton more money. 5070 ti is the sweetspot

[arctic lily]

Real

[peak heart]

9070xt ?

[upper rain]

barely any cheaper, and not quite full feature parity. even for gaming i'd pay the $50 US extra to go 5070 ti, and i say this as a 9070 owner lol. for your use case in particular you will benefit from Nvidia also. blender runs much faster with GeForce

[arctic lily]

Did i fumble guys

it at least shipped quickly

5 days from china to tx

[upper rain]

mine was $270

[arctic lily]

nice

i had just wanted the coolest model

it was worth it tho this things awesome

i got it to 3.5 ghz

[hoary zodiac]

$430

damn

[arctic lily]

$400 pre tax

[hoary zodiac]

💀

[arctic lily]

💸

[hoary zodiac]

I would ask "why" but I don't want to know your thought process

[upper rain]

i'm a770'ing tomorrow, but i will try to outbench your nomad score soon™️

[icy ore]

5050 time

[arctic lily]

we shall see

[nocturne flicker]

That is more than my weekly paycheck

I'm tired

I have to go back to 5 days a week every week

I got my yearly 2% raise a couple weeks ago. 11.20 an hour

Have to work nearly three hours at my own gas station to get a tank of gas

[lone mango]

Yes

My over msrp 9060 xt is still cheaper and it is a chungus card

[arctic lily]

heh welp 9060xt didnt exist at the time

[lone mango]

Oh march

[hoary zodiac]

even in march...

used 6700XT would've been cheaper

[lone mango]

Dam.. he kinda right tho

[peak heart]

And processor?

[arctic lily]

but me wanted a b580

cuz it cool new gpu from intel

[hoary zodiac]

lol ok

[arctic lily]

stuff like that

[icy ore]

[upper rain]

if aliexpress is an option you can get 7700x's for $120 US from very reputable sellers. its where i got mine from in fact. can't go wrong there tbh

[hoary zodiac]

the hell?

[upper rain]

and b650 boards are dirt cheap these days. you can get nice ones open box for like $80

[hoary zodiac]

they go that low now?

[lone mango]

They were over double that when I was looking for am5

[upper rain]

have been for ages. it's more like $150 ish but they allllways have $20 off coupons attached

[arctic lily]

wait fr?

no way

i could sell my board and cpu and get that and... make profit

[lone mango]

I got my 9600x for 200 but it came with the ssd in the pc im bouta list

So I guess that pays off

[arctic lily]

Whats the reputable 7700x seller

[lone mango]

Also came with monster slop wilds, so ima figure out how to sell that

[upper rain]

not seeing any rn but it might be because i'm on mobile. i can have a look tomorrow. would be a shame if they finally stopped being available. they were consistently $180, then $170, then 160, and finally dropped to like $150 ish not long ago, + the obligatory ali coupons

[arctic lily]

yes please do that

im gonna look too

[upper rain]

if the goal was to just get onto am5 you missed the boat a lil. you could get $60 8400f (ryzen not core i5 haha)

[arctic lily]

howd i miss the boat

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[arctic lily]

i wanna upgrade

[hoary zodiac]

Wouldn't it be cheaper to just

get a 14600KF

or at least way more cost effective

[arctic lily]

no bc getting a cheaper mobo and selling my expensive one will help with getting a good am5 cpu

[upper rain]

insanely cheap am5 entry point

[hoary zodiac]

eh?

[arctic lily]

the strix z690e is still sold for wild prices on ebay

[hoary zodiac]

am5 isn't black magic

You don't really need a z690

[arctic lily]

i know

[hoary zodiac]

I mean technically you can get one for $150

[arctic lily]

if i sell z690e which ill have to

[upper rain]

okay i sleep now. gn

[hoary zodiac]

but that's ddr4

[arctic lily]

u not understanding

also my z690 is ddr5

[hoary zodiac]

you have a z690?

what's the problem then

[arctic lily]

yes the asus rog strix z690e

bro whered you get a problem from

did u read up

[hoary zodiac]

It's still more cost effective to stick to intel

[arctic lily]

If i sell mobo and cpu i can get a cheaper mobo and have more money for cpu than just the measly 130 bucks id get for my 13400f

[hoary zodiac]

eh

[arctic lily]

less extra money i have to put in

[hoary zodiac]

Is it even worth that much used

[arctic lily]

im gonna run the numbers

[hoary zodiac]

I'm seeing $150-200

[hoary zodiac]

not worth that much

[arctic lily]

looks like 150 is a good price

[hoary zodiac]

eh

[arctic lily]

with an optimistic listing

[hoary zodiac]

that's the price of an eagle ax

or $135 for a B650-S wifi

[arctic lily]

13400f is like 110

[arctic lily]

people are not smart im going based off this fact

[hoary zodiac]

so you're getting

$235 maximum

that's not really that cost effective

[arctic lily]

100 bucks for a mobo

then rest of that money towards cpu

[hoary zodiac]

which won't be under $100

[arctic lily]

less extra money i have to dish in

[hoary zodiac]

you'd have to put in a similar amount of money for a 14600k anyways

$150 for a non k

[arctic lily]

i don't want a marginal upgrade

waste of effort

[hoary zodiac]

that's what you're going to get regardless of platform swap

unless you get an X3D

[arctic lily]

but

5+ghz cpus

[hoary zodiac]

...

Do you run exclusively single threaded heavy applications

First off

Intel CPUs can do well over 5GHz

second off

[royal crow]

Does Minecraft count

[hoary zodiac]

Gigahertz is a terrible metric to measure overall performance

[hoary zodiac]

yes actually

[royal crow]

Then yes he does

[hoary zodiac]

in that regard clock speed would contribute to the overall performance

[arctic lily]

maybe ill just wait and see if i can actually have a way to get money

and get a 265k

[hoary zodiac]

Not really that good of a gain

[arctic lily]

stay all intel

[hoary zodiac]

noooooooooooo

[arctic lily]

[hoary zodiac]

If you're going to platform swap

swap to something good

which... currently doesn't exist

well... there is X3D

[arctic lily]

well ok then

265k it is

[hoary zodiac]

uh

no

why in the world would you spend the money for a platform upgrade only to spend it on a 265K

[arctic lily]

what is an amd prive equivalent that is better

[royal crow]

Yes

Approved

Go for it

[hoary zodiac]

There is an intel equivalent

called the 14700K

that you can install...

[royal crow]

Or that

[arctic lily]

but thats like 300

[peak heart]

How about 7800x3d?

[hoary zodiac]

on your motherboard

that you already have

[arctic lily]

i'd need like 190 extra monees

where do i get that

[hoary zodiac]

what do you mean $190 extra

[arctic lily]

after selling 13400f

for 110

[hoary zodiac]

so?

you'd need the same amount for a 265K

I really don't see the argument here

[arctic lily]

motherboard

[hoary zodiac]

actually no

you'd need more

since you will need a completely new motherboard

[arctic lily]

im not arguing i really want to get to the bottom of this and figure it out

hm what about a 12900k

[hoary zodiac]

What is your reasoning for choosing a 265K over a 14700KF

[arctic lily]

no im fine with 14700k now

[hoary zodiac]

good

because the performance difference would quite literally be marginal

[arctic lily]

i do like my mobo

[hoary zodiac]

while requiring a whole new motherboard

[hoary zodiac]

don't spend money on slop

if you're spending $300

[arctic lily]

performance wise it is slop ok

oh price to perf

and gen ig

[hoary zodiac]

it's slop relative to what you pay to a 14700kf

[arctic lily]

ok

[hoary zodiac]

They're both $300

[arctic lily]

what about non f

[hoary zodiac]

no reason to get the 12900k

[arctic lily]

does it have to be kf

[hoary zodiac]

$345.99

Do you need the igpu

[leaden pewter]

Any cpu upgrade I make will be solely am5, alder lake is the last gen that made decent value

[hoary zodiac]

there is no reason to get the K over the KF if you don't need the igpu

[hoary zodiac]

To X3D right?

feels like it's only really worth if you're going to an X3D

[hoary zodiac]

Don't buy on ebay if it costs the same as on amazon/newegg

[leaden pewter]

9900x3d preferably

[hoary zodiac]

yeah that'd be a pretty good upgrade ngl

especially if you need the cache

[arctic lily]

you mean 9950x3d right

or 9800x3d

[hoary zodiac]

?

[arctic lily]

lemme check

[leaden pewter]

No, 9900x3d

[hoary zodiac]

what's wrong with the 9900X3D

[arctic lily]

that exists?

[hoary zodiac]

tbh I'd take that over the 9950 tbh

I'd rather have all my cores be able to access the 3d v-cache

[dense locust]

Worse than 9800x3d in gaming

[hoary zodiac]

you are assuming that he is using it for gaming

[dense locust]

Not as productive as 9950x3d

Why get an x3d if not for gaming

[arctic lily]

legit?

[dense locust]

Just get a 9950x

[hoary zodiac]

One cannot "just" get a 9950x3d

[arctic lily]

newegg has it overpriced sorry newegg

[dense locust]

Best Buy decided to ruin its website today

[hoary zodiac]

If it's around the same price

then yes

[arctic lily]

what happened

[hoary zodiac]

9900X3D is $599
9950X3D is $699

[dense locust]

They are allowing third parties onto their website and you cannot filter them out

[dense locust]

Just get a 9950x

[hoary zodiac]

you don't know their use case

[dense locust]

Is there any benefit to x3d cache in non gaming applications

[hoary zodiac]

yes

[arctic lily]

they're doomed

[dense locust]

Let’s just ask them their use case then

[hoary zodiac]

Assume that they want to do both gaming and non gaming

[dense locust]

7950x3d

[hoary zodiac]

ok you know what

yeah

7950X3D

that's cheaper

than both

[leaden pewter]

Balance of work (game dev/animations work with unreal engine and blender) and game performance isn’t my main focus

[hoary zodiac]

wait nvm that's 7950X

[leaden pewter]

Just bad pricing but sales do happen

[hoary zodiac]

$650.99 for the cheapest 7950X3D on amazon

might as well just get a 9950X3D at that point

[dense locust]

Is the cpu market that bad?

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it's a decent compromise

you get both

[hoary zodiac]

yes

particularly with X3Ds and intel cpus

[dense locust]

Last I saw 7950x3d was like $350-$400

[hoary zodiac]

at least with AMDs you can see them on aliexpress

less X3Ds on aliexpress tho

or rather

[leaden pewter]

And if I’m upgrading I’d at least want to be on newer generation

[hoary zodiac]

not worth it

(or fake)

[hoary zodiac]

eh

[dense locust]

Eh 7000 to 9000 is like 9%

[hoary zodiac]

agreed

zen 4 to 5 is marginal

although

[dense locust]

Not worth $650 tho

[hoary zodiac]

X3Ds is...

less marginal

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[dense locust]

Because of cache placement?

[hoary zodiac]

If he's going X3D anyways

🤷‍♂️

he's gonna be spending $600+ anyways

[dense locust]

I have a 9800x3d so I’ll be set for a while

[hoary zodiac]

at least assuming current market conditions

If prices come down

yeah ryzen 7000

otherwise

eh

I'd argue that it's worth the $40 extra to go from 7950X3D to the 9950X3D

[dense locust]

All console manufacturers have raised prices

[hoary zodiac]

or $50 less for the 9900X3D...

[dense locust]

We are screwed

[hoary zodiac]

WHAT

bruh

that was the one affordable avenue of gaming

💀

consoles have failed us

[dense locust]

Yeah it was much better earlier than in th eyear

I guess prices went up

[hoary zodiac]

yeah like

Ryzen 7000 would be good... if it was cheaper

7800X3D vs 9800X3D is a good saving actually

$100 for marginal drops

well it's not marginal but...

not worth $100

[dense locust]

8% more money for 7950x3d for 9% less performance than 9950x3d is a scam

[hoary zodiac]

it's slightly better than marginal

[hoary zodiac]

yeahhh

I'd just cope with the 9900X3D

and cope is a strong word because

[dense locust]

It’s like 5080 vs 5090

[hoary zodiac]

if he needs the 3D cache

like

[dense locust]

100% more cuda cores but 100% more cost

[hoary zodiac]

if he needs the v-cache

is it actually better

because there could be a scenario where not all the cores can use the vcache

and then at that point is it actually better than a 9900X3D

[dense locust]

Does 3D vcache only help at low resolutions or does it help in other areas

[hoary zodiac]

depends tbh

cpu heavy tasks absolutely

[dense locust]

Wait for the dual x3d 9950x3d

Pay $800

[leaden pewter]

Pretty much been building an all purpose machine

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it's a good idea

you get a decent amount of cores

you get 3d v-cache

it's a good compromise between both use cases

The only reason I'd go 9950X3D is if the extra cores are required

really depends on the workload at that point

[arctic lily]

is there a dual cpu am5 board

imagine two 9950x3ds

[hoary zodiac]

no

you can have dual epyc

LTT had dual epyc to get their y-cruncher world record

they had to do some magic to get the most out of the 3d v-cache

[dense locust]

Silly user the fun stuff is only for enterprise not for consumers

[hoary zodiac]

well

it's for consumers if you're willing to eat up the power cost

and if you're willing to go older hardware

broadwell is really cheap but well... it's broadwell lol

https://www.aliexpress.us/w/wholesale-dual-xeon-e5.html

you can have 28 cores

or

44 cores

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807655301898.html?utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A|x_object_id%3A1005007841616650|_p_origin_prod%3A

insanity

44 very mediocre cores mind you

oh 2673v4 is cheap

I guess you can have 40 cores for a decent price... if electricity doesn't matter

[arctic lily]

aliexpress embed fail

[hoary zodiac]

half the price

[hoary zodiac]

they don't embed

[arctic lily]

thas why i said aliexpress embed fail not embed fail laugh at this user

[hoary zodiac]

ok

40 cores for $510 hmm

not really worth it tbh

[peak heart]

Asus vs msi vs gigabyte which has best nvidia gpu?

[hoary zodiac]

kinda getting close to a newer xeon

like it's a single cpu but like

better ipc

which makes the $1000 2699v4 bundle more setupid because it costs the same as a whole Xeon server

unironically

oh wait these are 14 core cpus

there we go

oh these are skylake

14nm eh

kinda crap ngl

[proud jackal]

[hoary zodiac]

especially considering that it's getting close to EPYC price points

ipc's probably not that much better actually it's first gen epyc

if at all...

it'd have more cores but ipc's probably worse

64 cores tho...

[hoary zodiac]

oh wait this is aud wtf

so the epyc server is around 1K

[arctic lily]

goodnight chat

[arctic lily]

wish me luck getting 14700k and thank you for helping

[hoary zodiac]

consider 13700k as well

if it's significantly cheaper it might be a decent alternative

[arctic lily]

we'll see how much money i can get

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-banana-eating-gif-9495869585897801973

[hoary zodiac]

the funny thing is

that $400+ b580...

if the card wasn't overpriced it could've gone towards a cpu

2025 moment

[dense locust]

isnt the b580 like $260

[arctic lily]

💀

[arctic lily]

not mine

[dense locust]

[hoary zodiac]

literally the price difference between the 13400F and a 13700KF

💀

alternatively a RX 6950 XT around march

[royal crow]

Says gn
proceeds to send 4 unique messages
dissappears

[nocturne flicker]

Elite Dangerous servers are borked the second day in to getting back to ED

[atomic current]

compuder

[lone mango]

Brutal

[atomic current]

https://tenor.com/view/kirk-franklin-apple-gif-13463445511350374882

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/applesiftheywereblue-blue-apples-apple-blue-perfect-world-gif-1668985994174720221

Bapple

[elfin mural]

blapple

[dense locust]

something something ai

[nocturne flicker]

AI AI-oh

[elfin mural]

a eye

old jensen huang had a farm, AI AI-oh

[lone mango]

[elfin mural]

we were promised that ai would do chores for humans and let said humans chase their dreams

but no

they're here to replace humans

gotta make corpos richer

[random osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/i-robot-no-no-text-gif-1697004565875031511

[lone mango]

Good posture

[tranquil pebble]

Bad Apple

[dense locust]

https://youtu.be/3kXx6f7qaa8?feature=shared

[novel ferry]

https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-breaks-reset-and-recovery-on-older-windows-versions/

[hoary zodiac]

Oh my god

[atomic current]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-doing-markiplier-markiplier-meme-meme-funny-gif-25198883

[tranquil pebble]

This is never going to stop until they get sued over it, successfully.

Its like they arent even testing the updates

[novel ferry]

exactly what i expected from a company that use AI to code

beautiful code, nothing work

[dense locust]

Microsoft try not to break windows challenge

[elfin mural]

https://youtu.be/jNfmz0BowxM

[atomic current]

was the firecuda 530r one of the drives in hot water from the winder update... 💦

[proud jackal]

[lethal jasper]

does anyone know the difference between these 2? i couldnt find any difference except the cheaper one being 1.25v and the more expensive one being 1.35v

[hoary zodiac]

Why are you looking at CL36

Is CL30 significantly more expensive?

[cedar compass]

probably different die but most of those flare ones have samsung chips so they not OCing well . if you going to use XMP only they all fine

[lethal jasper]

yes

[lethal jasper]

isnt xmp only for intel

[cedar compass]

xmp/expo is same thing . and most mobos support both now . idk why always say xmp but yeah it's same thing

[lethal jasper]

both would work with a 7600x or 7500f right

will there be a noticable difference

[craggy shoal]

Typing sudo rm -fr /* on a Linux machine won't do this (trust me bro)

(Deletes the French language)

[lethal jasper]

so it just makes the OS 10 times better?

[craggy shoal]

Yeah exactly 💀

(Don't do it lol)

[lethal jasper]

[cedar compass]

yeah both will work fine . but if ou planning to OC it further , those probably have samsung die so not much room for it . but it'll work at 6000mhz it will work fine

[lethal jasper]

nah

[lethal jasper]

what happens if u try to boot a pc with a 7500f and no gpu?

will it go into bios or soemthing

[cedar compass]

7500f doesn't have igpu so it will not give output . but 7600x have igpu so it will work with it

you need gpu for 7500f to get picture on screen theres no other way around

[lethal jasper]

if im getting an intel gpu should i get the 7600x just in case something happens

or will it also work fine with a 7500f

like is there no need to worry about the b580 just giving up or something

[cedar compass]

intel gpus are fine . youll be ok with 7500f . Igpu is kinda nice thing to have just to test sysem or something. but if price difference is noticible go for 7500f it will be alright

[lethal jasper]

can always shove the ol 1060 in there if something happens

[lethal jasper]

asrock makes good quality stuff right

[cedar compass]

asrock is Asus subbrand actually . their software and stuff is not the best but I never had dead or failed things from them yet . used their mobos a lot without issue

[lethal jasper]

i see the acer nitro and asrock steel legend b580s are 2 dollars apart but the asrock has 3 fans so could be a good choice

sparkle titan also looks cool, would fit in a black build better than the asrock

cheapest is maxsun tho

[cedar compass]

Honestly , I never had sparkle producs before so I can't say anything about them . I seen Maxsun mobos before but they're popular with poor customer support( actually no customer support at all) here in US .

[cedar compass]

steel legend is great card . mostly good tuned and have OC room

[lethal jasper]

kinda looks like the sapphire pulse 7900s just uh

BLUE

[lethal jasper]

could work ig, will have to use a white case tho so it doesnt look weird

will still use a black 360mm naut tho

[rotund pawn]

Has Newegg possibly had system issue with accounts? I have tried to login all morning and it says "we didn't find any matches".

[upper rain]

i have a steel legend b580 and it's fantastic. runs at like 55C even with my unlocked modified power limit

cannot recommend enough if you intend on getting a b580, which i don't necessarily recommend lol

[lethal jasper]

what res u play at

[upper rain]

sparkle titan is comparable cooling-wise. pcb is identical if you care about that sort of thibg

[upper rain]

1440p 144hz

[lethal jasper]

damn

u got warthunder?

[upper rain]

i play very light games mostly lol

unfortunately not

[lethal jasper]

sadge

[upper rain]

(this was in reference to benching, not my so-light-it's-basically-idle games i play)

[lethal jasper]

i thought of getting a b580 and 1440p monitor but playing in 1080p wide and having the top pixels that are left for discord or something

[lethal jasper]

what games do you paly

[arctic lily]

will i survive with thermal throttling off

[lethal jasper]

could you send avg fps in some games u play in 1440p native

build pic too would be nice

[heavy dew]

So I got a good SSD

[heavy dew]

If I need 4TB, I would put it in my PS5

Mf

[upper rain]

sorry, at work lol. right now mostly totally legitimately purchased and dumped emulated DS games

[lethal jasper]

alr

[upper rain]

for sure. i have my a770 installed atm tho so it may be a bit depending on how busy i am today

[lethal jasper]

alr

thx

[sinful blade]

Sometimes the systems go down.

[proud jackal]

[sinful blade]

@uncut compass
a fellow Robert enjoyer I see

(They joined at 5pm yesterday)

[cedar compass]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/904073551957614703/1003165002196340786/hattip-resize.gif

[icy obsidian]

does anyone know how to setup a zebra label printer?

I’m trying to follow the guide on the website but all the links are dead

[lethal jasper]

are we going to get any intel gpus this december?

b770 or celestial line?

[royal crow]

one can only hope

[cedar compass]

I wish intel can compete with market and bring actual competition to gpu market . not like current nvidia/amd fake competition

[lethal jasper]

making cheap gpus means no profit tho

also 9060 is pretty good

would be nice if they made a 9050 or something that has 12 gb of vram and is basically just an amd card with b580 performance

[cedar compass]

I mean we have lots of e-waste gpus around . And that's because there's no real competition going on . Gpu market is heavily monopolistic

[lethal jasper]

too expensive to reuse them gg

what is there to reuse anyways, ig you could drain the heatsink, reuse the vram aslong as its ddr6 or higher and shred anything plastic?

maybe reuse the fan motors or something

for case fans ig?

[frigid stag]

9050 would be ewaste

and waste of vram

[lethal jasper]

true

[frigid stag]

like 6500xt was

[lethal jasper]

5050 too

who tf buying this bruh

3050 is also kinda bad but ig that was fine since it can run well with only motherboard power, good for sff or something idk ask ztt

[cedar compass]

5050 and rx7400 as well

[lethal jasper]

tf is a 7400 😭

[dusk knot]

Hm

[frigid stag]

5050 performs fine

[cedar compass]

Waste of vram and silicon

[lethal jasper]

ITS REAL??

[cedar compass]

Ewaste

[lethal jasper]

🥀

can you even recycle the chips

a nanoscopic maze of transistors and whatnot how do you recycle this

[sinful blade]

Yes

[cedar compass]

They wasting silicon and vram chips

[lethal jasper]

micron should pull a W move and just refuse to sell chips as long as they will be used for a card that is less than a 60 series

samsung too

[cedar compass]

Wise move

Does hynix also producing vrams ?

[lethal jasper]

whats the point of 50 series cards like are they the total failures of manufacturing

[lethal jasper]

yea

[lethal jasper]

like yk when the chip is made some parts have errors so they disable them

[frigid stag]

no

[lethal jasper]

isnt that how its done

[frigid stag]

its different dies

[sinful blade]

Anyone want a $7 box of mac and cheese

[lethal jasper]

no i need those 7 dollars

[sinful blade]

But it’s at a truck stop

🙁

[lethal jasper]

cool

[royal crow]

dm it to me

[lethal jasper]

Send the atomic code

[royal crow]

it's 57 terabytes....

[lethal jasper]

Cool

[lethal jasper]

I have the generic codon sequence for hemoglobin if that helps

Hemoglobin when the cooler guy (hemocyanin) steps in

I’ll shut up now

[dense locust]

The silksong is real

[proud jackal]

[velvet summit]

Putting on the ritz

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=TMstTM01m28

[lone mango]

I am thinking of getting the be200

Not sure if it will work though

[icy ore]

Man calf tattoos hurt life a mf

[arctic lily]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gQM71nYyo2M

[lone mango]

Lmao the QCNCM865 is $45

[elfin mural]

oof

[lone mango]

Did mediatek cook with the 7925

[elfin mural]

yes

the wifi 7 cards from mtk seem to be decent

no reports of issues from users

it's the wifi 6 one that SUCKS

[lone mango]

6 or 6e

Bruh 7925 doesn’t support 320mhz

[modern imp]

they are better but still terrible from people I know who have it

mainly for bluetooth is the real problem

wifi is "fine"

[lone mango]

I think the qualcomm may be the one I get

Actually first I will get the be200

If that doesn’t work then I go qualcomm

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/iwvr-UhqCFk

[heavy dew]

Alrighty who’s interested in a sleeper case

No I’m not selling one, but someone on eBay is

https://ebay.us/m/p6psNL

Pretty damn cheap case if you ask me

[blissful urchin]

does anyone know if i can take my newegg giftcard balance and put iton m card somehow

[lone mango]

Cant

As far as I know at least

[blissful urchin]

dang it

i accidently reloaded my giftcard balance

i did to much llol

[leaden pewter]

Keep building that balance up, gonna eventually need more storage

[blissful urchin]

i mean

i meant to relod 80

i did 800

i sorta need that LOL

[lone mango]

Doomed to use newegg forever

Maybe for something like that support might be willing to make an exception

[upper rain]

no, you need a 5070 ti. you will surely not regret purchasing a 5070 ti

[hoary zodiac]

Is it gonna overheat and die tho

[blissful urchin]

I got a 5090

[hoary zodiac]

At what cost

[upper rain]

you need a waterblock res and tubing you will surely not regret purchasing a waterblock res and tubing

[hoary zodiac]

You need two 5090s

[lone mango]

[lone mango]

Is it undervolted

[acoustic palm]

800$ aint getting a 5090 level watercooling parts

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

China

[lone mango]

Water block is 2-300

[hoary zodiac]

I'm kinda tempted to build a custom water loop with X99

[lone mango]

https://shop.alphacool.com/en/shop/gpu-water-cooling/nvidia/10242-alphacool-core-geforce-rtx-5090-reference-with-backplate?currency=3

[upper rain]

^

can totally scrape a loop together for $800. pump/res combo isn't that expensive and rads are cheap as hell on amazon

who was it that could get a free car radiator through vine a while ago? hit that guy up

[worthy meteor]

Where the bykski soft tube kit at

[lone mango]

Does it matter if I have the is55 heatpipes pointing up or down with am5

As long as they are vertical it shouldn’t matter right

[hoary zodiac]

Wdym pointing up

Is it touching something

Orientation shouldn't matter

The orientation you need to worry about is the fan

But it's a LP cooler so there is literally only one way you can mount the fan

As long as the cooler's not blocking anything you're good

[upper rain]

^

orientation really only matters for vapour chambers

[olive plaza]

did you guys see theres now a Newegg "gamer community" site

like a forum

[sinful blade]

Yeah

It’s been here for a few months

It’s kinda like a “Facebook” for Newegg but more moderated

[olive plaza]

my boss told me he wants me to post there on our behalf sometimes lol

[sinful blade]

We don’t actually touch that lmao

[sinful blade]

Go ahead
Idk the rules of it

[tranquil pebble]

and even then its not everything lol

[tribal echo]

Anyone know a good WiFi adapter for pc, Ethernet isn’t really an option It is a college house

[rancid juniper]

this is a super scam in my eyes

[dense locust]

i guess they just do it without telling you

[nocturne flicker]

I've had that happen a couple times

Also my CC has an insane limit for some reason despite the fact that I am broke

[atomic current]

they want you to debt spiral

https://tenor.com/view/color-spiral-gif-25096393

[nocturne flicker]

Maybe they saw my stocks and thought I was rich boi

9.8k

Credit

On my first CC

[wet aspen]

Hi 🙂

[lone mango]

yeah

means you are a good boy

[upper rain]

i'm pretty sure that's why they do it lol

[dense locust]

they want you to have debt

i aint gunna use more than 200-300 at a time

because i dont want to become debt trapped

[lone mango]

I dont care much for the limit because I wont go near it anyway

I won't spend more just because the limit went up

I treat it like a debit card

[north crescent]

If it's more like an apartment building with a heck ton of suites, maybe try using your own access point ("router") on 6GHz band. Would need a 6GHz capable add in card if you were to do that, like AX210 or AX211.
Otherwise tho, just any WiFi 6 Intel card like AX200, AX210, AX211

[arctic lily]

welcome to the server

[wet aspen]

Thanks

[icy ore]

That kinda looks like my kitty girl

[upper rain]

we had to borrow her for a sec but she is back home safe now

[atomic current]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-scrub-petting-sogging-gif-392401690304211835

[icy ore]

Puffball

[nocturne flicker]

But it's fun trust me. You don't want to be a deadbeat. Join the Revolver club

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/AUKhQ9PnBUg?si=rVgDMoEjUKokUBFt

I Think I found something to play. theres a demo on stem

[random osprey]

@proud jackal @dusk knot second weekend stats for bf6

[dusk knot]

low KD

[lone mango]

Where to find

[random osprey]

its not though, the . is after the 3. i know youre used to seeing it before the 3

[random osprey]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/player-stats

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/gary-tay-you-so-funny-gif-26149001181537323

jokes aside. thats very good for one of the sweatest games on earth

[random osprey]

bf really isnt that sweaty

just have to go to where the fights are

[dusk knot]

hm

[random osprey]

only part of battlefield that is sweaty are helicopter/airplane pilots

actual good pilots are insane

[worthy meteor]

my kd is surprisingly high considering I kept focusing on trying to kill vehicles lol

[random osprey]

vehicles are insane for kills if you manage to blow them up when theres a full squad on it

[worthy meteor]

I mean I targeted planes and helos

every time I got that large map, I asked a friend to give me an ammo bag and I sat around using stingers on people

got some people that came back to revenge kill me lol

[random osprey]

i could not use the stinger for the life of me cause the pilots actually used flares and there werent enough players using stingers with me to shoot right after

had to try and yeet a rpg

[worthy meteor]

you can 2 tap planes yourself with stinger

first will ALWAYS get flared

the second has like a 80% kill rate

you reload fast enough yourself as long as the pilot doesn't go out of sight

[random osprey]

the planes always went out of range for me so i was only ever able to get 1 shot off then they come back around with more flares

helicopters most of the time i could shoot down cause theyd sit in the same area most of the time

[worthy meteor]

helicopter gave me more trouble because they usually get low enough that they're out of sight for the second stinger lol

I still remember a match where I kept killing walter white

like 4 or 5 times when they were in jets or helis

and then they parachuted down to try to get me

[deep parcel]

heres my stats

[dusk knot]

youre just saying that because youre already good at the game

[worn wave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446371403445436426/1408252986941116506/steviejoe66_BF6BETA_Overview_Stats.png?ex=68a9114c&is=68a7bfcc&hm=c9f1231a81c1498f088c03a7e42e8102ebb0c340f5fdcf292866665587350b88&

[random osprey]

so far everyone has shown over a 2.0 kd except you jp

[dusk knot]

because i dont play

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-what-insomnia-no-sleep-gif-13337078

[sinful blade]

Hey mine shows 0 on everything

I haven’t played

[nocturne flicker]

Here are my stats:

[ancient swift]

Ayn at it again; look at that purple though

[nocturne flicker]

Wow, my favorite. The Valve DS

[ancient swift]

Android dual screen handheld, 2 OLED screens. 8Gen2 (865 has an option but Black only)

[nocturne flicker]

...Maybe the Google DS instead of Valve

[ancient swift]

Ayn has been welcoming to Linux so you could probably put that on there.

[nocturne flicker]

Aynds

[ancient swift]

I want to put linux on one of mine but I'm lazy

[hoary zodiac]

Debian + steam

And a protonGE

Is all you need

[ancient swift]

Proton does have instructions for Arm ye

[hoary zodiac]

Bruh

So it's not x86?

[ancient swift]

Its a snapdragon lol

[hoary zodiac]

You can probably still run an android container in debian + emulators

[nocturne flicker]

Sad

[ancient swift]

Ye

[hoary zodiac]

Waydroid + retroarch maybe

[ancient swift]

Prices aren't bad.

[wet aspen]

Hi

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/text-captcha-puzzle-shaking-moving-gif-14758823

[wet aspen]

Confused

[nocturne flicker]

pe83jMe

[hoary zodiac]

Alright it's a human

[nocturne flicker]

But what if it isn't

What if we were the bots the whole time

[hoary zodiac]

sudo rm -rf

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-snapped-sad-gif-22165289

[dusk knot]

de83jwe

[lone mango]

[nocturne flicker]

This is not true

pe83jMe

[icy ore]